@@Patrick_Bateman____ Remove the sights but make sure you have a red dot. Put tape over the red dot 100% of the time you train to make sure you can shoot accurately when the RDS fails, but still trust it, bro, but train as if you don't trust it. But def remove your sights since you trust the red dot so much.
One evening after going out with friends, we were sitting around my living room and I unclipped my USP45 holster and set it down on my desk. One of them asked, "You were CARRYING that the whole time??" Every day, man...
Hell yeah. It's an excellent gun and surprisingly easy to carry for what it is. It's not EASY to carry, but for a full size double stack 45, with the right holster, it disappears.
I started shooting on a G17 and Beretta 92FS (MADE IN ITALY INOX MODEL, BABY!). The G17 became my first CCW and it worked very well for me. When I got a G26 as a gift, I immediately liked it, as the baby Glock's definitely easier to put on and forget as far as concealed carry is concerned. When wearing gym shorts, it's my go-to, as I find it to be very shootable for a sub-compact even without my pinky on the grip and I don't want my gun to be any thinner than somewhere in the double-stack 9mm or HK45 range. The 26's chopped barrel and grip just make things easier, and for my hand size and preference a "holdout gun" shouldn't go any smaller---in caliber or grip length/width. I think of it as a modern snubnose, but one for which you can carry your choice of backup mag along with a 33-rounder in the glove box "just in case." Your mileage may vary. Speaking of the HK45, I fell in love with the platform and I have a second full-size 45, this time a tactical (with adjustable rear sight) on the way. I'm thinking that the standard will become my CCW once I acquire a holster and the 45T will be an HD/fun/pigs are flying and the balloon's hanging 10 gun. I noticed someone asked about HK45 holsters for concealment---please keep us informed, as I'm actively researching my (hopefully light-bearing) options! A few notes to finish: 1. I'm glad that I cut my teeth on a DA/SA and a striker-fired pistol, with plenty of revolver practice since. Speaking all three languages is a HUGE asset and will dissolve a lot of nonsense that biased shooters will try to tell you about certain action types or pistols with "bad" triggers. And double-action practice will make you a better shooter, full stop. 2. A full-size gun is just easier to use (and learn to shoot on). As soft as the Glock 26 and 30 shoot (the latter being a hidden CLASSIC among .45's, Massad Ayoob and Faye Valentine agree), the full-size guns are often easier to properly grasp and shoot. Full-size guns may not fit all body types in all circumstances (especially getting in and out of automobiles or chairs), however. And I think that there is always room for an "oh crap, the risk of my concealment being compromised is higher than normal and I cannot be revealed right now" gun in your arsenal. Sub-compacts and .38 snubbies fill this need well. Also when you're wearing a jammies and not much else. 3. The metal-frame mad lads had me rolling. CZ-75s are superb 9mms. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
Light bearing options are a must for me, any gun I have I try to get a CCW holster with and without an X300. But if I can't then I have a duty holster that will accommodate the light. I also cut my teeth on DA/SA which I'm happy I did, I can run damn near anything now a days. Which is nice. Thanks for watching and your detailed response. I'm glad you appreciated the metal-framed mad lads portion. I wasn't sure if that would land or not.
Glad to hear you made it though Ian unscathed. Great video as always. I routinely carry a full-size, and agree. If I've got to pull a gun out, I want every advantage possible. Nice of the cats to contribute so much, thanks for the laughs.
I absolutely carry a full size 24/7. G17, dot, TLR...so long as you dress appropriately, it's GTG. It's a tool I use to protect family and dress around the platform. Dress perception will get you into or out of issues.
Yeah, I went from a P365 a few years ago to getting a better holster and then started carrying a G17 in late 2020. Holsters matter probably more than the size of the gun itself. I seriously conceal the G17 as well and more comfortably than the P365 since I got a better holster.
Whenever possible, I carry the Beretta 92G. The weight feels great even though a little bulky. For slightly better concealment I carry the P30. Also very comfortable for 24/7 carry. Both have a light and iron sights. Anything less is just short of disarming myself but necessary in certain situations. Great cut scenes in this video! Funny to see you “herding cats” too.
While I don't do it as often as I did since becoming a father, I used to daily a G20SF Gen 4. Most all of my handguns were full size guns and I carried nearly all of them concealed. Like I tell people at my work today, concealed carry is all about what you are willing to put up with. I tend to base my carry based on my attire for the day as for example when it's summer time here in my state and it's 101 with 100% humidity making it feel like 108+, you're likely to be in shorts and a light shirt so you probably aren't going to CCW a gun like a Sig P226. But, for nearly the rest of the year one could get away with loads of things. For starters, most people are utterly oblivious to their surroundings. Their heads are up their phones so far they aren't looking at you. I know some people worry too much about printing or whichever but like I said, nobody notices but you. Now if it's a comfort factor I can understand but if you're willing to tote a full size gun, you'd be willing to wear the clothes, the belt, and whatever else it takes to accomplish the task without standing out like a sore thumb. They simply are just more comfortable for most shooters, provided there's no issues with their hand sizes. They control recoil better, they hold more rounds typically, and in a world of compromises the handgun is one of the biggest compromises to begin with, so why not have as many advantages as one can get out of one? It's why I've never shied away from larger size guns, but I can admit there are times and places the smaller guns have merit. But even with smaller guns, there comes a point where it's too small and you're either giving up performance, reliability, comfort, or some other factor that's usually not worth the trade off. I get mocked sometimes because I admit to carrying larger sized revolvers. I get told how 6 or 7 rounds isn't enough when a full size gun like a G17 holds 17. But... I can hit my mark out to 40 yards easily with that revolver on a consistent basis, the level of power in my cartridges can range from weak target loads up to stout hunting or personal defense loads. Then they pull out a Ruger LCP that I'm sure they shot like twice before they bruised their knuckle and put it away. Not that tiny guns like that can't still get the job done but most people don't practice regularly with tools like that to know their limitations. I always push my guns to know these. If I didn't tell somebody I had it on me, I have a holster for my Taurus Raging Judge Magnum with a 6 1/2 inch barrel that can be carried IWB. It's not as noticeable as you'd think despite the bulk. Just again goes to show, what we're willing to put up with.
Guns are like any other tool. There are several tool with different manufacturers that all do the same job and feel good in your hands. And with all these different tools, you need to handle them well and accurate. I'm like you that has different makes, models, calibers, but being proficient with all of them is key. Semper Fi!
I carried full sized pistols when I lived in a state that had real winters. Florida is a little tough imo, especially in the summer. I personally am short statured at 5'6 and a compact frame fits my hands perfectly while full size frames I'll have extra space I don't need. I just carry full sized mags or OEMs with extensions as my backups.
IT is a struggle, but I wear pants all the time down here. Some of my shirts hug my body harder than others. Plus the humidity we deal with does suck. But I make it work. But I definitely understand the struggle.
Live in Florida i am only 5 foot 4 and carry my duty weapon as my ccw, g21, hk45, beretta 92, never had an issue. Your either making excuses or wearing clothes that are too small. I normally carry owb too, cops in Florida couldn't care less if you print, but again never had that issue
@@andog6092 It also depends on his body type. I'm slightly taller than my old man, yet he can casually conceal carry a Para P14-45, something I can only pull off with a heavy jacket. Hell, I know for a fact that there were times when he carried two of them. He can pull it off because he has the physique of a powerlifter (heavily muscled, not incredibly lean like a muscle builder).
I love my metal framed hammer fired guns. In the winter and fall I carry an SP-01, in the summer, a 75C. Spring depends on the weather. The only polymer framed one I've carried was a USP in 9mm during the winter one year. All have been pretty concealable depending on clothing (loose sweaters help a lot). The compact metal frame gun class is truly a wild one, though. It's heavier than a Glock 17. Shoots great, too.
Well, this was nice to see that I'm not alone. I'm carrying a P30L. I also carry my P226, P220, 1911, 17, and the smallest I ever carry is a USP 9C or a Glock 19. (For 20 years strong, now.)
Agreed on the M17/M18. I was an early adopter for the Sig P320. Got it circa 2015-ish. Out of the clear blue sky it began having failure to extract issues with less than 500 rounds doen the pipe. Troubleshot it down to a chipped extractor. And honestly it didn't do anything better than my Glocks. Replaced the extractor and promptly sold it off. Loved the metal framed mad lads segment. While I rotate between my P30 and Glock 17 alot lately, I just got a Beretta 92X I need to put through the paces. My wife has a Jericho 941 that she absolutely adores.
The P320s have issues for sure. But the safety equipped models are straight trash. The internals are MIMed worse than anything I've ever seen. When that arm snaps, it deadlines the gun.
You are a man after my own heart. Sub Compacts have a very niche, but limited role for edc when ultimate concealment is needed, however full size or compacts are the way to go. I feel much more prepared and confident with my Hk45/C instead of my Sig 365XL. I love the cutaways for the medal framed mad lads, because I absolutely love those. I will always take those over polymers. I am a SIG and HK guy and do not really look at the others lololol
I agree. Got away from small ccw guns my hands are too big for a 365. Smallest gun I carry is a Glock 48 for when I’m working out or something along those lines because it’s lighter and thinner. Don’t see any point in the 43x. Even still the grip for the 48 feels a little too thin for my hands. I want a 19mos with trijicon rmr. My duty gun is a 17mos with rmr and I carry that concealed or a g22 gen4 as well. The length of the grip with the optic does print sometimes wither the 17 so that’s why I want the 19. I’ve become a firm believer in red dots for pistols once my agency transitioned to 17s with rmr. I’ve ran many drills with it vs just irons and It allows me to be much faster and maintaining accuracy. We’ve had a couple deputies make headshots in stressful situations one being a hostage situation. Im sold on g17 or 19 with an optic.
Gym carry or something along those lines is what I would recommend the 48 or 365 for. I agree with you completely there, and you raised good points. We'll see about the optics. My body/eyes are fighting it, except under NODs.
without even watching this in its entirety I agree. people put far too much emphasis on edc-ing a tiny pistol. meanwhile I'm out here carrying my g19 in an iwb holster.
@@KsooTheUA-camr g19 is essentially a full sized pistol especially in today's marketplace. While it was originally marketed as a "compact" you're literally the only person on earth that would argue that is.
I know lots of Enigma wearing people use it for a tiny ass gun in order to make it totally disappear, but I love it for making me be able to conceal full-size guns better than any normal holster ever did. The P30L and SP01 are all I wear nowadays.
All points on point. My confidence in distance shots with my macro falls off a cliff at around 25yds. After shooting my g34 in some matches with some long bomb shots, I i grabbed another one for appendix carry. It's not awful comfort wise. Way better than i thought it would be. And if i can see it, i can touch it. So much confidence in that pistol. Grip printing is workable as long as my tshirt is black. And Hornady Critical Duty 135+p has to be an absolute rocket out of that long barrel.
I used my USP in a recent stress fire course and it has more than proven itself as my general carry.....though in the summer my 229 Legion gains more reps. But that HK......shes just solid
Keep preaching it brother, full size PDP for me. Trusted Walthers for years, had to carry a Glock 22 for my decade in LE but walther has never let me down, from the P99 to the PPQ to the PDP. All accurate and reliable. Great point on loss of velocity with these pint size pistols, but as Clint Smith said , a guns supposed to be comforting not comfortable. Spot on. My full size PDP has a optic and a light and I carry it every day.
I started carrying a G17. I sold it and bought a G19. It was nice. Sold it and bought a G48 for "summer carry"... massive mistake... went out and bought a G45 and threw an x300 on it. I've been there and back guys. Stay large.
@@navyman8903 I'm sure I would improve the more I shot one, but in addition to only having 10rds (the shields mags are garbage), I am awful at shooting the 43x and the 48. I just have no desire to carry a gun that I shoot worse and carries less. 🤷♂️
IT's just easier to use effectively. I shot a 43X recently and a few other guns, to include a 365. I just can't do it. I can't imagine trying to make precise shots and hit things how they need to be hit. They're not "bad" shooting guns, but full size pistols are easy mode.
@@navyman8903 I owned a p365xl for a bit. It carried a million times easier of course,But I just didn’t enjoy as edc more or less then idea of it. Their really not confidence inspiring whatsoever. Plus I burnt my support thumb too many range trips.
@@navyman8903 also you mentioned changing out trigger if you where to get a 19x. Is the Haley skimmer on your radar at all? I’ve been heavily considering getting one for my 19x.
@@governmentcalamari9785 I saw it, and it looks legit. I just like the FALX better. I wouldn't be opposed to running one honestly. I like the concept. Makes it all business. I'm sure with a minus connector you'll be close to the Overwatch, if not same same with less travel.
82 years old, carrying 24/7 since 1962. Shot three men, killed one. Retired Fed. Gonna share some weird shit here: My EDC is an out-of-production all steel, DA/SA double stack .45 ACP. Why? MyAstra A-80 fits my hand like a glove, the weight (and there is considerable) mitigates recoil and in combination with the all-steel makes for excellent pistol-whipping when required. The European mag release if fine with me. I've never needed more than one shot per perp and doubt I will be confronted with more than ten of them at once. The double-Action negates the need for other safeties-which is nice and when carried in cross-draw (as I do) in a good pancake holster rides all day without discomfort. I love my Glock 21, but it stays in my chair at home (every geezer has HIS chair). Like my Niners, but not to carry.Oh, one other thing, just to confirm in your mind that I'm an idiot: I carry only ball 230 grain. I'm all about penetration. Enjoyed your presentation, shoot low, they may be riding Shetlands. :)
I might be crazy, but I prefer my G45's trigger to that in many other guns, sometimes even the Walther PDP. I probably need more practice on the PDP, but the G45 just fits perfectly. Handguns are so personal preference. And I really hope you do a M17 / M18 video.
Oh the trashing of the M17/18 video is absolutely happening. I'll have to try to get footage from work. They go down regularly. It's insane. I would rather have a clapped out M9.
G19X / P365xl In love with the 19X while shooting and drawing, in love with the p365xl while concealing and walking around with it. Although p365xl does shoot very soft with the Wilson combat module
I mean you have to use what you're comfortable with. After shooting the 365 or 365xl I can't see myself getting into or out of a gunfight with it. Gym carry? Sure.
Fantastic rejuvenation. Very nice. Bold statement with the 226. I'm with you, but with the MK because of the internals. Yes, I know the Legion has the slight upgrades and that being said my 229 is right there (when are you getting yours). Love the display of the Big Three (Beretta tooo, love mine) and rings my bell every time. Thank you, kind sir.
Glad to hear someone finally tell the truth about the m17/m18.. sick of the Instagram and UA-cam sig shills being payed to praise them and talk about how "amazing" they are..
All the internals are MIM parts made weaker than Springfield MIM parts. Which pains me to say. That reverse 6 designed safety part is insane. They shear off and deadline the trigger. The rear sight pops off like Archer's tone nails in the cancer episodes. They're absolutely awful, I hate that I have to rely on them. There needs to be an investigation into how SIG is getting these contracts. As well as their QC. I love metal frame SIGS. Love em. But the M17/M18 is the worst choice for a service weapon.
Great stuff, I love all these points! Smallest gun I carry now is a G19...I just don't see the suppose in going shorter when I can carry the G19, rmr and x300 in shorts and a tshirt.. I can carry a full size 1911/2011 with the x300, P226 with x300, etc. Might as well carry what I shoot really well and can conceal well. I just got a stronger belt and its fine. The light ends up being the most limiting piece of the puzzle since it makes the gun taller when needing to be flexible.
Same minus the surefire "too bulky" for me personally..(I carry a small light separately)...but the G19 just Plain works for me it just does everything so well big enough to shoot accurately yet "small enough" to conceal carry👍
Funny enough, I used to hate Glocks. Couldn’t stand them. Had 2 17 Gen 4s and a Gen 3 19. I know, “Gen 3 GoLd StAnDaRd ThO!?!”. Sold them all, swore them off for a long time, until the latest Gen 5 came out, (more like Gen 5.5). Worked at a gunshop, found a G19 Gen 5 blue label, great deal on top of getting it at cost. Had our guy throw on a pair of Trijicon HD green/yellow (shoulda went orange, me feel smrt). A G45 with an OEM extended slide lock came in, asked bossman if I could swap my Vickers for it, he obliged, total win. Fast forward a year and some change later, it’s easily one of my favorite pistols. I had some growing pains with Glocks over the years, but I’m glad I got over it. Honestly it feels weird if I pick up anything else.
Yeah man the Gen 5.5 changed the Glock game for me honestly. I also love how the 17 shoots. The 45 and or 19x is still a process for me. The 5.5 G19 also shoots pretty smooth. I think loving the 17 so hard is what's messing up the 45 for me if that makes sense. The 19 is a 19, so my brain sets to the slide speed it has. But my big dumb idiot brain can't get the 17 frame with the 19 slide. Maybe one day.
@@navyman8903 So I’ll be honest, when I first heard of the 19X when it came out, I was like “19 slide on 17 frame? That sounds totally stupid.” But then the 45 came out and I said “oh that’s actually not bad.” I think maybe the FDE just bothered me, I was stationed in J-Vegas and got so sick of seeing FDE. FDE Guns, gear, clothes, etc. I couldn’t escape it. But I warmed up to it. But for sure, the Gen 5.5 was a huge game changer for me, I used to carry a 92FS 24/7, so the 19 was a huge relief on my hip. Definitely going for a 17 sometime soon, I really think this is what the Gen 4 should’ve been.
When my carry licenses come in I'll be carrying my M&P 2.0 core performance center 5 inch pistol, initially until I get an M&P 2.0 compact. Luckily it'll be in the middle of winter so carrying a full size gun will be more visible due to wearing more and heavier clothing.
I know quite a few guys who CCW a g19 with an x300 and a mag extension who thinks its dumb to carry a full size pistol. The cognitive dissonance of some gun owners does me a concern.
Fantastic video!!! My two personal EDC pistols are my Glock G48 w 4.2” barrel & my S&W M&P 2.0 5” barrel & it’s a beast!! Both are fantastic pistols. I subscribed!!!!!🇱🇷🇱🇷👍👍👍
I own 2 M&Ps a 1.0 40 & a 2.0 .40 model. Both have "issues". A big + is both M&P guns fed cycle factory ammunition with nearly 0 problems. Would I always pack a 4.25" M&P more than likely, no. I often carry my PDP Compact 9mm or a Glock 22 gen 4, Glock 26 gen 5 9mm. I do security & wear my Glock 22 gen 4 about 75% of the time.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Im surprised to see you kinda favor 40 in a time when it’s really unpopular. I have always liked 40 and sometimes carry a G23. 9mm allows for smaller guns though. The PDP seems like a bit of a brick to carry but looks great. I sometimes carry my M2 PPQ. To this day my default carry gun however has always been my 26gen4 and will likely never be unseated, not even by my P365 xl.
Barrels less than 4" get relegated to carrying with shorts, but I wear jeans 99% of the time. It's not particularly easy to walk into a gun shop locally and find anything above 4" (and I despise ordering guns online), so my CZ P-10C is the usual carry. 15+1 at 4", it's not bad. Low bore axis. Good gun 👍
love when it's colder weather and I can easily carry my Beretta 92. I like DA/SA better (yeah yeah I'm the new 1911 kinda guy); but I just shot it so much in the Navy it's just the easiest for me to be confident with. Say hi to the cats for me 😻😻
Will do and there is that familiar feeling to a Beretta 92 for me as well. Which is also probably from qualifying on it so many times, and carrying it.
What you're saying makes real sense. I own a sig p365 and a HK P30L. love me some full size HK for sure. But, places such as hospitals and others were there is constant physical violence against employees by drunks , druggies, and the seriously mentally ill have issues. Most hospitals have a no gun and knife policy, on the premises, policy. Truth is, some nurses, doctors, and others choose to carry small firearms concealed regardless. Just in case police, or security is unable to get too the scene in time. Hospitals are just one example. As great as a HKP30L is , one is not going to be able to conceal it size at work. For this reason, weapons like the p365 and others are game changers. Obviously, the 365 and it's competition are not combat handguns. Most of us aren't going into combat, we're going to work just trying to do our job.👍
@@navyman8903 Thank you.. 👍 We've had shootings, and stabbings in the ER. We've also had a prisoner disarm his prison guard who transported him . from detention to the ER for treatment. And many, many other dangerous Incidents. Some medical staff choose to risk going against policy to protect themselves and hopefully others, and I don't blame them. For me , the micro guns aren't real guns, they're a big compromise. But if in a situation like the one described above or some others that I can think of, a low profile micro can be a Godsend. Thanks for making outstanding content!
Yeah, I contemplated buying one to have so I can HR218 with it, and practice with the new platform. Seeing how they break like clockwork changed my mind. Despite what influencers say/feel, those MIM parts are almost worse than Springfield quality investment casting.
@@navyman8903 also I think I’m convinced I can carry a full sized if I pick out a great chest bag. I’m a 5’5” shorty but I’ve got a natural 38” chest and a 29” in the waistline; I still actually think the Glock 48 is a great mix between size and barrel length for a carry gun and it was incredibly comfortable; Then I traded it for a Springfield hellcat (before the pro I’m pissed they don’t have a trade in plan for an upgrade) and it’s fine but your video made VERY SOLID POINTS about being in the moment and I think having the gun of your choice in your hand would be better than trying to train to use a smaller handgun
It is a pretty well established fact in mechanical engineering that making something smaller makes it more finicky and less reliable. This concept applies to firearms as well. The timing on a sub-compact has to be more precise than on a compact, and on a compact more so than on a full size, because the slide travel is less and the recoil spring and guide rod are shorter. So a full size gun will almost always be more reliable than a smaller version of the same gun. How much so and whether that matters is something you have to decide for yourself. A full size gun is almost always more ergonomic than a compact or subcompact. This really matters to some of us. I am 6'6" and 250 pounds. I have big hands. I don't like my pinky hanging off the bottom of the grip, and I don't like feeling like I might shoot my own finger off if my grip shifts slightly under duress because the barrel is so short I can easily get my support hand index finger over the end of it. If you say this is only a training issue, you obviously are not very familiar with Mr. Murphy and how fucked up things can get when the shit hits the fan. Trust me, you're not John-fucking-Wick. Having a gun that is easy to shoot well and works with you might save your life, and this is where sub-compacts fail. They are made to be carried and not shot, so God forbid you actually have to use them, they make it really difficult. A full size gun has every functional advantage. It is more reliable, more ergonomic, has greater capacity, and maybe even a slight ballistic advantage. The only disadvantage is that they are bigger, and most people are pussies. My Glock 20 weighs about 2.5 pounds. That is about 1% of my body weight, if this former Marine grunt did his math correctly. If a grown man can't carry 1% of his body weight on his center of mass, he is probably a bitch and has bigger problems than concealed carry guns. Our grandpas all carried S&W revolvers and 1911s. These days we have this born-to-lose bed wetting soy-fed weak bodies complaining if their sub-compact weighs more than their triple caramel macchiato. Eat a steak. Reach down and grab that shriveled fleshy patch where your nuts are supposed to be and remember what it is to be a man. Then get a decent belt and holster, and carry a real fucking gun.
i struggle more with the actual being concealed part of concealing a fullsize gun. not the weight of the gun. I suspect there may be other people that feel the same way
Great video! I prefer to carry my P30L over my P30SK 9 out of 10 times(even in FL), for all of the reasons you mentioned, and it actually feels more comfortable too.
USP full-size CCW enthusiasts rise up. i haven't even watched 5 minutes into the video yet, but doesnt matter. most people don't dress the occasion, and the occasion being carrying a gun.
I don't carry daily. But there aren't any woodchucks, porcupines, fox, and the bear thinks twice about approaching my chickens and ducks. G17L and G40 10mm are rural tools here in New Hampshire. 6.02" barrels matter. A H&K USP 9 Expert is going to join farm security soon. Excellent lecture professor 👍👍💥🎯
@@navyman8903 Question please. Do you do your own sight upgrades on HK's or send off? If DIY, do you use a tool or old school punch. Wanting to upgrade my USP9 night sights and don't want to crack the goods, need advice. THX
@@gatorhkman I use the MGW sight pro and do the work myself. I've had great luck with it and it does the work cleanly without damaging the gun. I use painters tape on the surfaces as extra insurance.
My big issue with my micro compact is the grip/draw. Not very much to grab on to. I have to sort of pull it out with my thumb on top of the rear iron sights, then finish getting my grip after the draw. Not ideal. Thanks for crushing micro compact dreams in this video. 🐈⬛🐈⬛
I carry a glock 49 or a m9 depending on what I'm wearing that day. The differences between the two seem small on paper, but they carry quite differently.
Brother, I love your gun content - but including your cats is now over the top. I'm a cat guy, always have been but may one day get a Belgian Malnios for their tier 1 kinda cool :-). My Marine buddies hate cats and so these days I have but a few Marine buddies. I'm actually good with that... Mamma.jpg
Honestly as the years go by, my circle gets smaller. I'm 4 years out from hitting 20 and retiring. My girl and I both love cats, which is good. My ex wife didn't, which should have been a sign. Thanks for watching Devil Dog.
@@navyman8903 Roger that Sir. I retired in 2004 and my circle is non-existent these days. I suppose I am no longer relevant. However, comma, what I do know at age 60 is that I still train 6 days a week as if my life depends on it - it does. Most of my circle are now underground and no longer training. God willing I'll die under a bar. In any event, my ex-wife also hated cats but loved the Marine lifestyle I provided her. That should have been a red star cluster sign for me. Semper
I think the main issue is still tradeoff in terms of ease of carry and ease of use. I'm not very big, so carrying a full size would be extremely difficult except in harsh winter scenarios. However, I still try to stay away from the micro-ultra-lights because they just don't seem as reliable, durable, accurate, and easy to grab and deploy as bigger models. For me, it's hard to find the right balance of everything, but I find myself going time and time again to HK simply because of their sheer reliability, durability, and the paddle magazine release. The Subcompact p30sk works great for this reason, although I would still prefer HK release a single stack 9mm, even if it came at the cost of less rounds. Because again, in my philosophy reliability and durability are paramount over everything else, and I just don't trust the flimsy sig 365s and hellcats. I think the fixation on round count and super tiny size is really unhealthy, and we should put priority once again on a well designed well balanced platform.
Given those restrictions I think you did well. The P30 carries well for me, and I do have to dress around it, and the G17/P30L. It's worth it for me, but I get what you're saying.
I am 5 foot 4 and carry the same gun for work as my ccw. A full size glock 21 or hk45, unless I work where I have to carry a 9mm, then it's usually a beretta or a p30. I also live in Florida so I wear the bear minimum of clothes and never had an issue in any way carrying a full size handgun.
Could you do a video on tips and tricks on making carrying full-sized pistol more comfortable to conceal carry? I currently EDC an M18 and love it but I'd like to hear if you have any advice on making full-sized carry more comfortable.
the thing with compact you have to use hot ammo to make up for the short barrel to bring the ballistics close to the longer barrel guns full size has controlablity plus capacity bottom line good holster and for summer carry blackhawk gun fanny pack a large will hold 1911 beretta 92 or 96 comes able to carry an extra mag using mine foe 3 years
I've gone back and forth between full size and compact and subcompact. I find that full size grips leave a little printing spot on me whereas compact (G19 size) doesn't. So it's situational. If I'm at work where I want 0% printing no matter what, I go compact. So, realistically, that's most of the time nowadays.
That's understandable too. You have to have options and the right tool for the job. But I've seen dudes in hoodie weather make an argument for carrying a single stack micro 9 when they could easily do more. So it's a balance of requirements and laziness. (Not saying the laziness applies to you, just in general).
CZ master race lol. I love my P-06. Steel frame, hammer fired .40 as I swear it was designed by someone with my exact hands. Used to conceal it everywhere until I figured out just how rare they are. Now it's a range toy, but my new carry is a Tanfoglio (Italian CZ clone) in 10mm so now I have more power with a way less rare pistol. Plus it fits my hand the same so win/win for me.
I CCW an HK VP9 Tactical. My eyes are bad and need a red dot. I would only carry a single stack or 1.5 stack as a backup or in certain situations where I have to be ultra discreet. The belt and holster make a difference. As I am a little larger person, a Columbia shirt worn untucked does the trick for me. No printing at all.
Let me know how it works out for you if you don't mind. At first you have to shuffle things around and find out how to work it properly. But once you do the capability and confidence it gives you is worth it.
P365 cuz the real balance for me is "there's a 99.999% chance this thing is never leaving the holster, I shoot it well enough, and I'm never gonna leave it at home and don't need to dress around it because it's so damn small"
I've recently been shooting and carrying the M&P 2.0 full size. The fullsize grip on that gun seems to conceal better for me when carried appendix over a G17. I picked up the metal frame version the other day and honestly it's still light enough to be carried and has a stupid nice trigger.
P365 Macro bro!!! Knowledge transfer!!!🤣😂
Lol. Top tier comment.
Just remove your iron sights and you’re good. Point shoot. KNOWLEDGE TRANSFER.
@@Patrick_Bateman____ Remove the sights but make sure you have a red dot. Put tape over the red dot 100% of the time you train to make sure you can shoot accurately when the RDS fails, but still trust it, bro, but train as if you don't trust it. But def remove your sights since you trust the red dot so much.
@@Edisto54
Hard copy
Lol this might go over some heads 😂
If I am going to carry a full size, it’d probably be a Springfield XD9 Service Model.
I've got a 17L slapping me in the nuts right now...and I kinda like it.
You deserve your own statue of excellence. Straight power move right there.
Ladies love it until they see you have a 2” J frame hanging between your legs.
I rather think you like to irritate the girls!
One evening after going out with friends, we were sitting around my living room and I unclipped my USP45 holster and set it down on my desk. One of them asked, "You were CARRYING that the whole time??" Every day, man...
Hell yeah. It's an excellent gun and surprisingly easy to carry for what it is. It's not EASY to carry, but for a full size double stack 45, with the right holster, it disappears.
Great gun "Vincent" would approve 👌( Collateral movie) ...👍😎
I started shooting on a G17 and Beretta 92FS (MADE IN ITALY INOX MODEL, BABY!). The G17 became my first CCW and it worked very well for me. When I got a G26 as a gift, I immediately liked it, as the baby Glock's definitely easier to put on and forget as far as concealed carry is concerned. When wearing gym shorts, it's my go-to, as I find it to be very shootable for a sub-compact even without my pinky on the grip and I don't want my gun to be any thinner than somewhere in the double-stack 9mm or HK45 range. The 26's chopped barrel and grip just make things easier, and for my hand size and preference a "holdout gun" shouldn't go any smaller---in caliber or grip length/width. I think of it as a modern snubnose, but one for which you can carry your choice of backup mag along with a 33-rounder in the glove box "just in case." Your mileage may vary.
Speaking of the HK45, I fell in love with the platform and I have a second full-size 45, this time a tactical (with adjustable rear sight) on the way. I'm thinking that the standard will become my CCW once I acquire a holster and the 45T will be an HD/fun/pigs are flying and the balloon's hanging 10 gun. I noticed someone asked about HK45 holsters for concealment---please keep us informed, as I'm actively researching my (hopefully light-bearing) options!
A few notes to finish:
1. I'm glad that I cut my teeth on a DA/SA and a striker-fired pistol, with plenty of revolver practice since. Speaking all three languages is a HUGE asset and will dissolve a lot of nonsense that biased shooters will try to tell you about certain action types or pistols with "bad" triggers. And double-action practice will make you a better shooter, full stop.
2. A full-size gun is just easier to use (and learn to shoot on). As soft as the Glock 26 and 30 shoot (the latter being a hidden CLASSIC among .45's, Massad Ayoob and Faye Valentine agree), the full-size guns are often easier to properly grasp and shoot. Full-size guns may not fit all body types in all circumstances (especially getting in and out of automobiles or chairs), however. And I think that there is always room for an "oh crap, the risk of my concealment being compromised is higher than normal and I cannot be revealed right now" gun in your arsenal. Sub-compacts and .38 snubbies fill this need well. Also when you're wearing a jammies and not much else.
3. The metal-frame mad lads had me rolling. CZ-75s are superb 9mms.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
Light bearing options are a must for me, any gun I have I try to get a CCW holster with and without an X300. But if I can't then I have a duty holster that will accommodate the light. I also cut my teeth on DA/SA which I'm happy I did, I can run damn near anything now a days. Which is nice.
Thanks for watching and your detailed response. I'm glad you appreciated the metal-framed mad lads portion. I wasn't sure if that would land or not.
@@navyman8903 Cheers. Love the kitties, too. Will need full specs and review in the future.
Glad to hear you made it though Ian unscathed. Great video as always. I routinely carry a full-size, and agree. If I've got to pull a gun out, I want every advantage possible. Nice of the cats to contribute so much, thanks for the laughs.
Thanks for the comment and for watching. I appreciate it.
@@navyman8903 Are you in south fl? I'm down in Fort Lauderdale.
I absolutely carry a full size 24/7. G17, dot, TLR...so long as you dress appropriately, it's GTG. It's a tool I use to protect family and dress around the platform. Dress perception will get you into or out of issues.
Yes to all of that.
The Philster Enigma opens up even more options for how you can dress while still carrying a full size gun.
Somebody up here said im the only one on earth who will argue a g19 isn't a full size 😭
@@KsooTheUA-camr it isnt🤷♂️ glock literally calls it a COMPACT so...
Tcall that's going to look strange in a bathing suit, basketball shorts .obviously there is a place for micro compacts
I've really come to love the Beretta 92
Yeah, I went from a P365 a few years ago to getting a better holster and then started carrying a G17 in late 2020. Holsters matter probably more than the size of the gun itself. I seriously conceal the G17 as well and more comfortably than the P365 since I got a better holster.
Yes indeed.
What holster did you get for the 17 ?
@@fkrr5 I use a Tier 1 Concealed holster. The xiphos v2 is the name.
Whenever possible, I carry the Beretta 92G. The weight feels great even though a little bulky. For slightly better concealment I carry the P30. Also very comfortable for 24/7 carry. Both have a light and iron sights. Anything less is just short of disarming myself but necessary in certain situations.
Great cut scenes in this video! Funny to see you “herding cats” too.
Solid choices and yessir. Probably more as the years go by at this rate.
Ditto. 😂😂😂
While I don't do it as often as I did since becoming a father, I used to daily a G20SF Gen 4. Most all of my handguns were full size guns and I carried nearly all of them concealed. Like I tell people at my work today, concealed carry is all about what you are willing to put up with. I tend to base my carry based on my attire for the day as for example when it's summer time here in my state and it's 101 with 100% humidity making it feel like 108+, you're likely to be in shorts and a light shirt so you probably aren't going to CCW a gun like a Sig P226.
But, for nearly the rest of the year one could get away with loads of things. For starters, most people are utterly oblivious to their surroundings. Their heads are up their phones so far they aren't looking at you. I know some people worry too much about printing or whichever but like I said, nobody notices but you. Now if it's a comfort factor I can understand but if you're willing to tote a full size gun, you'd be willing to wear the clothes, the belt, and whatever else it takes to accomplish the task without standing out like a sore thumb.
They simply are just more comfortable for most shooters, provided there's no issues with their hand sizes. They control recoil better, they hold more rounds typically, and in a world of compromises the handgun is one of the biggest compromises to begin with, so why not have as many advantages as one can get out of one? It's why I've never shied away from larger size guns, but I can admit there are times and places the smaller guns have merit. But even with smaller guns, there comes a point where it's too small and you're either giving up performance, reliability, comfort, or some other factor that's usually not worth the trade off. I get mocked sometimes because I admit to carrying larger sized revolvers. I get told how 6 or 7 rounds isn't enough when a full size gun like a G17 holds 17. But... I can hit my mark out to 40 yards easily with that revolver on a consistent basis, the level of power in my cartridges can range from weak target loads up to stout hunting or personal defense loads. Then they pull out a Ruger LCP that I'm sure they shot like twice before they bruised their knuckle and put it away.
Not that tiny guns like that can't still get the job done but most people don't practice regularly with tools like that to know their limitations. I always push my guns to know these. If I didn't tell somebody I had it on me, I have a holster for my Taurus Raging Judge Magnum with a 6 1/2 inch barrel that can be carried IWB. It's not as noticeable as you'd think despite the bulk. Just again goes to show, what we're willing to put up with.
I've been gravitating towards the Beretta M9 and I think I might pick one up as a Christmas present for myself.
That would be a solid choice and season appropriate. Die hard is a Christmas movie.
@@navyman8903 definitely a Christmas movie 🤣👍 ho-ho-ho- you know the rest....
Guns are like any other tool. There are several tool with different manufacturers that all do the same job and feel good in your hands. And with all these different tools, you need to handle them well and accurate. I'm like you that has different makes, models, calibers, but being proficient with all of them is key. Semper Fi!
Completely agree.
I carried full sized pistols when I lived in a state that had real winters. Florida is a little tough imo, especially in the summer. I personally am short statured at 5'6 and a compact frame fits my hands perfectly while full size frames I'll have extra space I don't need. I just carry full sized mags or OEMs with extensions as my backups.
IT is a struggle, but I wear pants all the time down here. Some of my shirts hug my body harder than others. Plus the humidity we deal with does suck. But I make it work. But I definitely understand the struggle.
Live in Florida i am only 5 foot 4 and carry my duty weapon as my ccw, g21, hk45, beretta 92, never had an issue. Your either making excuses or wearing clothes that are too small. I normally carry owb too, cops in Florida couldn't care less if you print, but again never had that issue
@@andog6092 It also depends on his body type. I'm slightly taller than my old man, yet he can casually conceal carry a Para P14-45, something I can only pull off with a heavy jacket. Hell, I know for a fact that there were times when he carried two of them. He can pull it off because he has the physique of a powerlifter (heavily muscled, not incredibly lean like a muscle builder).
I love my metal framed hammer fired guns. In the winter and fall I carry an SP-01, in the summer, a 75C. Spring depends on the weather. The only polymer framed one I've carried was a USP in 9mm during the winter one year. All have been pretty concealable depending on clothing (loose sweaters help a lot). The compact metal frame gun class is truly a wild one, though. It's heavier than a Glock 17. Shoots great, too.
Well, this was nice to see that I'm not alone. I'm carrying a P30L. I also carry my P226, P220, 1911, 17, and the smallest I ever carry is a USP 9C or a Glock 19. (For 20 years strong, now.)
Agreed on the M17/M18. I was an early adopter for the Sig P320. Got it circa 2015-ish. Out of the clear blue sky it began having failure to extract issues with less than 500 rounds doen the pipe. Troubleshot it down to a chipped extractor.
And honestly it didn't do anything better than my Glocks. Replaced the extractor and promptly sold it off.
Loved the metal framed mad lads segment. While I rotate between my P30 and Glock 17 alot lately, I just got a Beretta 92X I need to put through the paces. My wife has a Jericho 941 that she absolutely adores.
The P320s have issues for sure. But the safety equipped models are straight trash. The internals are MIMed worse than anything I've ever seen. When that arm snaps, it deadlines the gun.
@@navyman8903 shhhh! 🤫...the Sig fanboys will here you..."they mostly come out at Night....MOSTLY-(Newt)..🤣🤣
You are a man after my own heart. Sub Compacts have a very niche, but limited role for edc when ultimate concealment is needed, however full size or compacts are the way to go. I feel much more prepared and confident with my Hk45/C instead of my Sig 365XL.
I love the cutaways for the medal framed mad lads, because I absolutely love those. I will always take those over polymers. I am a SIG and HK guy and do not really look at the others lololol
I agree. Got away from small ccw guns my hands are too big for a 365. Smallest gun I carry is a Glock 48 for when I’m working out or something along those lines because it’s lighter and thinner. Don’t see any point in the 43x. Even still the grip for the 48 feels a little too thin for my hands. I want a 19mos with trijicon rmr. My duty gun is a 17mos with rmr and I carry that concealed or a g22 gen4 as well. The length of the grip with the optic does print sometimes wither the 17 so that’s why I want the 19. I’ve become a firm believer in red dots for pistols once my agency transitioned to 17s with rmr. I’ve ran many drills with it vs just irons and It allows me to be much faster and maintaining accuracy. We’ve had a couple deputies make headshots in stressful situations one being a hostage situation. Im sold on g17 or 19 with an optic.
Gym carry or something along those lines is what I would recommend the 48 or 365 for. I agree with you completely there, and you raised good points. We'll see about the optics. My body/eyes are fighting it, except under NODs.
without even watching this in its entirety I agree. people put far too much emphasis on edc-ing a tiny pistol. meanwhile I'm out here carrying my g19 in an iwb holster.
Yeah man, idk how they think that's going to get them through much.
Not a full size
@@KsooTheUA-camr g19 is essentially a full sized pistol especially in today's marketplace. While it was originally marketed as a "compact" you're literally the only person on earth that would argue that is.
@@KsooTheUA-camr also, the fbi as well as an assortment of other agencies issue them for duty use sooo...
@@Appalachia_Ape I guess g17 is "not" full size and I'm also the only person to argue that Glock owners be dumb 😭
I know lots of Enigma wearing people use it for a tiny ass gun in order to make it totally disappear, but I love it for making me be able to conceal full-size guns better than any normal holster ever did. The P30L and SP01 are all I wear nowadays.
All points on point. My confidence in distance shots with my macro falls off a cliff at around 25yds. After shooting my g34 in some matches with some long bomb shots, I i grabbed another one for appendix carry. It's not awful comfort wise. Way better than i thought it would be. And if i can see it, i can touch it. So much confidence in that pistol. Grip printing is workable as long as my tshirt is black. And Hornady Critical Duty 135+p has to be an absolute rocket out of that long barrel.
I used my USP in a recent stress fire course and it has more than proven itself as my general carry.....though in the summer my 229 Legion gains more reps. But that HK......shes just solid
May I ask the lady's calibre?
@@45calibermedic Shes a 45. I really love how well that platform runs it
@@Raider214 Rock on.
Somebody said Glock is better than both 😭
subbing for the cats alone.
Keep preaching it brother, full size PDP for me. Trusted Walthers for years, had to carry a Glock 22 for my decade in LE but walther has never let me down, from the P99 to the PPQ to the PDP. All accurate and reliable. Great point on loss of velocity with these pint size pistols, but as Clint Smith said , a guns supposed to be comforting not comfortable. Spot on. My full size PDP has a optic and a light and I carry it every day.
Forgot to say HK rocks tho, had a USP 45 once and got temporarily insane and sold it, one of my biggest regrets.
I started carrying a G17. I sold it and bought a G19. It was nice. Sold it and bought a G48 for "summer carry"... massive mistake... went out and bought a G45 and threw an x300 on it. I've been there and back guys. Stay large.
Yeah man, when I shoot the 365's at the range, or the G43x, I just can't see myself using one.
@@navyman8903 I'm sure I would improve the more I shot one, but in addition to only having 10rds (the shields mags are garbage), I am awful at shooting the 43x and the 48. I just have no desire to carry a gun that I shoot worse and carries less. 🤷♂️
Thank you! Been saying this for years at this point
IT's just easier to use effectively. I shot a 43X recently and a few other guns, to include a 365. I just can't do it. I can't imagine trying to make precise shots and hit things how they need to be hit. They're not "bad" shooting guns, but full size pistols are easy mode.
@@navyman8903 I owned a p365xl for a bit. It carried a million times easier of course,But I just didn’t enjoy as edc more or less then idea of it. Their really not confidence inspiring whatsoever. Plus I burnt my support thumb too many range trips.
@@navyman8903 also you mentioned changing out trigger if you where to get a 19x. Is the Haley skimmer on your radar at all? I’ve been heavily considering getting one for my 19x.
@@governmentcalamari9785 I saw it, and it looks legit. I just like the FALX better. I wouldn't be opposed to running one honestly. I like the concept. Makes it all business. I'm sure with a minus connector you'll be close to the Overwatch, if not same same with less travel.
82 years old, carrying 24/7 since 1962. Shot three men, killed one. Retired Fed. Gonna share some weird shit here: My EDC is an out-of-production all steel, DA/SA double stack .45 ACP. Why? MyAstra A-80 fits my hand like a glove, the weight (and there is considerable) mitigates recoil and in combination with the all-steel makes for excellent pistol-whipping when required. The European mag release if fine with me. I've never needed more than one shot per perp and doubt I will be confronted with more than ten of them at once. The double-Action negates the need for other safeties-which is nice and when carried in cross-draw (as I do) in a good pancake holster rides all day without discomfort.
I love my Glock 21, but it stays in my chair at home (every geezer has HIS chair). Like my Niners, but not to carry.Oh, one other thing, just to confirm in your mind that I'm an idiot: I carry only ball 230 grain. I'm all about penetration.
Enjoyed your presentation, shoot low, they may be riding Shetlands. :)
I might be crazy, but I prefer my G45's trigger to that in many other guns, sometimes even the Walther PDP. I probably need more practice on the PDP, but the G45 just fits perfectly. Handguns are so personal preference.
And I really hope you do a M17 / M18 video.
Oh the trashing of the M17/18 video is absolutely happening. I'll have to try to get footage from work. They go down regularly. It's insane. I would rather have a clapped out M9.
@@navyman8903 o: now I really want to see the M17/M18 video
@@navyman8903 hype
@@LarsBars17 IT's going to be a slaughter fest for sure.
True well said, I'm currently interested in those two exact pistols the ( PDP COMPACT & G45)...I have the PPQ M2 love it ..Amazing trigger reset👍
G19X / P365xl
In love with the 19X while shooting and drawing, in love with the p365xl while concealing and walking around with it. Although p365xl does shoot very soft with the Wilson combat module
I mean you have to use what you're comfortable with. After shooting the 365 or 365xl I can't see myself getting into or out of a gunfight with it. Gym carry? Sure.
Fantastic rejuvenation. Very nice. Bold statement with the 226. I'm with you, but with the MK because of the internals. Yes, I know the Legion has the slight upgrades and that being said my 229 is right there (when are you getting yours). Love the display of the Big Three (Beretta tooo, love mine) and rings my bell every time. Thank you, kind sir.
hes finally getting a pistol dot
For night vision....don't get too excited. But I do have to zero it and get used to it.
I CCW a Springfield TRP Operator with a Trijicon RMR and Surefire X300 Turbo with four extra mags every day with no issue. Carry full-size guys.
Glad to hear someone finally tell the truth about the m17/m18.. sick of the Instagram and UA-cam sig shills being payed to praise them and talk about how "amazing" they are..
All the internals are MIM parts made weaker than Springfield MIM parts. Which pains me to say. That reverse 6 designed safety part is insane. They shear off and deadline the trigger. The rear sight pops off like Archer's tone nails in the cancer episodes. They're absolutely awful, I hate that I have to rely on them. There needs to be an investigation into how SIG is getting these contracts. As well as their QC. I love metal frame SIGS. Love em. But the M17/M18 is the worst choice for a service weapon.
Ya Paid For Sure! 😂🤣😅🥹All Of Them!!!
I personally carry a Walther PPQ Tact as my CCW, though I'm a 6'3" skeleton with Slenderman hands.
I appendix a staccato XL(floodlight 2) with x300 and its the same as a g19 with x300, doesnt matter a whole lot if you have a good holster
Metal frame double action is life itself!
Great stuff, I love all these points! Smallest gun I carry now is a G19...I just don't see the suppose in going shorter when I can carry the G19, rmr and x300 in shorts and a tshirt.. I can carry a full size 1911/2011 with the x300, P226 with x300, etc. Might as well carry what I shoot really well and can conceal well. I just got a stronger belt and its fine. The light ends up being the most limiting piece of the puzzle since it makes the gun taller when needing to be flexible.
Same minus the surefire "too bulky" for me personally..(I carry a small light separately)...but the G19 just Plain works for me it just does everything so well big enough to shoot accurately yet "small enough" to conceal carry👍
Honey! NavyMan dropped a video get the popcorn!!!!
Funny enough, I used to hate Glocks. Couldn’t stand them. Had 2 17 Gen 4s and a Gen 3 19. I know, “Gen 3 GoLd StAnDaRd ThO!?!”. Sold them all, swore them off for a long time, until the latest Gen 5 came out, (more like Gen 5.5). Worked at a gunshop, found a G19 Gen 5 blue label, great deal on top of getting it at cost. Had our guy throw on a pair of Trijicon HD green/yellow (shoulda went orange, me feel smrt). A G45 with an OEM extended slide lock came in, asked bossman if I could swap my Vickers for it, he obliged, total win. Fast forward a year and some change later, it’s easily one of my favorite pistols. I had some growing pains with Glocks over the years, but I’m glad I got over it. Honestly it feels weird if I pick up anything else.
Yeah man the Gen 5.5 changed the Glock game for me honestly. I also love how the 17 shoots. The 45 and or 19x is still a process for me. The 5.5 G19 also shoots pretty smooth. I think loving the 17 so hard is what's messing up the 45 for me if that makes sense. The 19 is a 19, so my brain sets to the slide speed it has. But my big dumb idiot brain can't get the 17 frame with the 19 slide. Maybe one day.
@@navyman8903 So I’ll be honest, when I first heard of the 19X when it came out, I was like “19 slide on 17 frame? That sounds totally stupid.” But then the 45 came out and I said “oh that’s actually not bad.” I think maybe the FDE just bothered me, I was stationed in J-Vegas and got so sick of seeing FDE. FDE Guns, gear, clothes, etc. I couldn’t escape it. But I warmed up to it. But for sure, the Gen 5.5 was a huge game changer for me, I used to carry a 92FS 24/7, so the 19 was a huge relief on my hip. Definitely going for a 17 sometime soon, I really think this is what the Gen 4 should’ve been.
When my carry licenses come in I'll be carrying my M&P 2.0 core performance center 5 inch pistol, initially until I get an M&P 2.0 compact. Luckily it'll be in the middle of winter so carrying a full size gun will be more visible due to wearing more and heavier clothing.
You convinced me. Now I just have figure out how to conceal carry that cat at 2:35 without it tearing me up.
I know quite a few guys who CCW a g19 with an x300 and a mag extension who thinks its dumb to carry a full size pistol. The cognitive dissonance of some gun owners does me a concern.
Me too man. It's crazy. At that point you're fighting the light more than the damn barrel length.
Fantastic video!!! My two personal EDC pistols are my Glock G48 w 4.2” barrel & my S&W M&P 2.0 5” barrel & it’s a beast!! Both are fantastic pistols. I subscribed!!!!!🇱🇷🇱🇷👍👍👍
To this day I still often favor my original M&P 9, especially for winter carry. I even prefer it over my G17
I own 2 M&Ps a 1.0 40 & a 2.0 .40 model. Both have "issues". A big + is both M&P guns fed cycle factory ammunition with nearly 0 problems. Would I always pack a 4.25" M&P more than likely, no. I often carry my PDP Compact 9mm or a Glock 22 gen 4, Glock 26 gen 5 9mm. I do security & wear my Glock 22 gen 4 about 75% of the time.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Im surprised to see you kinda favor 40 in a time when it’s really unpopular. I have always liked 40 and sometimes carry a G23. 9mm allows for smaller guns though. The PDP seems like a bit of a brick to carry but looks great. I sometimes carry my M2 PPQ. To this day my default carry gun however has always been my 26gen4 and will likely never be unseated, not even by my P365 xl.
Barrels less than 4" get relegated to carrying with shorts, but I wear jeans 99% of the time.
It's not particularly easy to walk into a gun shop locally and find anything above 4" (and I despise ordering guns online), so my CZ P-10C is the usual carry. 15+1 at 4", it's not bad. Low bore axis. Good gun 👍
Metal frame madlads😂. Dig it
92X Compact, No rail, Full 4.7" Barrel, G Decocker. +2 ex mags. Its my Daily.
love when it's colder weather and I can easily carry my Beretta 92. I like DA/SA better (yeah yeah I'm the new 1911 kinda guy); but I just shot it so much in the Navy it's just the easiest for me to be confident with. Say hi to the cats for me 😻😻
Will do and there is that familiar feeling to a Beretta 92 for me as well. Which is also probably from qualifying on it so many times, and carrying it.
I carry the Langdon Edition M9!
Hell yeah.
@@navyman8903 I absolutely love it, I admit I also carry the Glock P80 and G45.
What you're saying makes real sense. I own a sig p365 and a HK P30L. love me some full size HK for sure. But, places such as hospitals and others were there is constant physical violence against employees by drunks , druggies, and the seriously mentally ill have issues. Most hospitals have a no gun and knife policy, on the premises, policy.
Truth is, some nurses, doctors, and others choose to carry small firearms concealed regardless. Just in case police, or security is unable to get too the scene in time. Hospitals are just one example.
As great as a HKP30L is , one is not going to be able to conceal it size at work. For this reason, weapons like the p365 and others are game changers. Obviously, the 365 and it's competition are not combat handguns. Most of us aren't going into combat, we're going to work just trying to do our job.👍
Well that use case makes complete sense. Also thanks for what you do and stay safe in there.
@@navyman8903
Thank you.. 👍
We've had shootings, and stabbings in the ER. We've also had a prisoner disarm his prison guard who transported him . from detention to the ER for treatment. And many, many other dangerous Incidents. Some medical staff choose to risk going against policy to protect themselves and hopefully others, and I don't blame them. For me , the micro guns aren't real guns, they're a big compromise. But if in a situation like the one described above or some others that I can think of, a low profile micro can be a Godsend.
Thanks for making outstanding content!
Also, I am really excited for the PHLster enigma to allow for more comfortable full size carry.
BERETTA CHADS RISE UP
All-Metal Pistols Rule, HKs Drool. Semper Fi Sailor 😎 (I sold my M-18 after 3 weeks)
Yeah, I contemplated buying one to have so I can HR218 with it, and practice with the new platform. Seeing how they break like clockwork changed my mind. Despite what influencers say/feel, those MIM parts are almost worse than Springfield quality investment casting.
No stupid ass red dots , love it!
Been carrying your first gun HK45 LOVE IT.
It's a solid choice and performer.
@@navyman8903 Sure i have an 9sk and it is more comfortable but the 45 is more Comforting .
My boy is back
Yessir!
Loved the meme clips 😂
Thanks man.
@@navyman8903 also I think I’m convinced I can carry a full sized if I pick out a great chest bag. I’m a 5’5” shorty but I’ve got a natural 38” chest and a 29” in the waistline;
I still actually think the Glock 48 is a great mix between size and barrel length for a carry gun and it was incredibly comfortable;
Then I traded it for a Springfield hellcat (before the pro I’m pissed they don’t have a trade in plan for an upgrade) and it’s fine but your video made VERY SOLID POINTS about being in the moment and I think having the gun of your choice in your hand would be better than trying to train to use a smaller handgun
I used to carry a P2000 but the P2000SK has replaced it recently as my main carry. I do also carry a USP40 occasionally.
I think the P2000 was way ahead of its time the price hurt its sales when it first came out $1K SMH...it is an underrated gun for sure .
I love this video so much 😂 great entertainment and great information!!
Lol thanks.
I carried a concealed 1911 for over 30 years With the proper holster and cover clothing, no problem.
Definitely doable. Just have to find the right gun, holster and belt.
It is a pretty well established fact in mechanical engineering that making something smaller makes it more finicky and less reliable. This concept applies to firearms as well. The timing on a sub-compact has to be more precise than on a compact, and on a compact more so than on a full size, because the slide travel is less and the recoil spring and guide rod are shorter. So a full size gun will almost always be more reliable than a smaller version of the same gun. How much so and whether that matters is something you have to decide for yourself. A full size gun is almost always more ergonomic than a compact or subcompact. This really matters to some of us. I am 6'6" and 250 pounds. I have big hands. I don't like my pinky hanging off the bottom of the grip, and I don't like feeling like I might shoot my own finger off if my grip shifts slightly under duress because the barrel is so short I can easily get my support hand index finger over the end of it. If you say this is only a training issue, you obviously are not very familiar with Mr. Murphy and how fucked up things can get when the shit hits the fan. Trust me, you're not John-fucking-Wick. Having a gun that is easy to shoot well and works with you might save your life, and this is where sub-compacts fail. They are made to be carried and not shot, so God forbid you actually have to use them, they make it really difficult. A full size gun has every functional advantage. It is more reliable, more ergonomic, has greater capacity, and maybe even a slight ballistic advantage. The only disadvantage is that they are bigger, and most people are pussies. My Glock 20 weighs about 2.5 pounds. That is about 1% of my body weight, if this former Marine grunt did his math correctly. If a grown man can't carry 1% of his body weight on his center of mass, he is probably a bitch and has bigger problems than concealed carry guns. Our grandpas all carried S&W revolvers and 1911s. These days we have this born-to-lose bed wetting soy-fed weak bodies complaining if their sub-compact weighs more than their triple caramel macchiato. Eat a steak. Reach down and grab that shriveled fleshy patch where your nuts are supposed to be and remember what it is to be a man. Then get a decent belt and holster, and carry a real fucking gun.
That's one hell of a response. 13/10 with bonus points for execution. I agree on the egos, performance and shootability.
i struggle more with the actual being concealed part of concealing a fullsize gun. not the weight of the gun. I suspect there may be other people that feel the same way
Steyr L9A2 for life highly underrated
Great video! I prefer to carry my P30L over my P30SK 9 out of 10 times(even in FL), for all of the reasons you mentioned, and it actually feels more comfortable too.
It really does and the P30L is a great balance of size, weight, confidence, and capability.
USP full-size CCW enthusiasts rise up.
i haven't even watched 5 minutes into the video yet, but doesnt matter. most people don't dress the occasion, and the occasion being carrying a gun.
update at 5:20
fuck.
2 guns. 1 pocket and 1 duty.
I don't carry daily.
But there aren't any woodchucks, porcupines, fox, and the bear thinks twice about approaching my chickens and ducks. G17L and G40 10mm are rural tools here in New Hampshire. 6.02" barrels matter. A H&K USP 9 Expert is going to join farm security soon.
Excellent lecture professor 👍👍💥🎯
Always appreciate your vids my friend. Go big or go home.....she said....but I digress.
Thanks for watching them, it means a lot.
@@navyman8903 Question please. Do you do your own sight upgrades on HK's or send off? If DIY, do you use a tool or old school punch. Wanting to upgrade my USP9 night sights and don't want to crack the goods, need advice. THX
@@gatorhkman I use the MGW sight pro and do the work myself. I've had great luck with it and it does the work cleanly without damaging the gun. I use painters tape on the surfaces as extra insurance.
@@navyman8903 THANKS!
My big issue with my micro compact is the grip/draw. Not very much to grab on to. I have to sort of pull it out with my thumb on top of the rear iron sights, then finish getting my grip after the draw. Not ideal.
Thanks for crushing micro compact dreams in this video. 🐈⬛🐈⬛
True things are true, and happy to help man. Thanks for dropping in as always.
I’m 5’7” 150lbs and I appendix carry a USP45, it’s no problem.
How, what belt and holster cuz that is crazy that you are able too and still conceal it.
Smart call.
Thanks for making this video!
Thanks for watching it.
@@navyman8903 You're welcome, the part with David Caruso was silly awesome! But the topic was great, too.
I carry a HK USP 9 with a phylster/furycary solutions IWB in scrubs for 12 hours, its not bad, and its worth it.
Solid. I'm about to have a USP9 again lol. I think I'm going to use it when I visit Denver and for a few other things till my girl moves in.
I carry a glock 49 or a m9 depending on what I'm wearing that day. The differences between the two seem small on paper, but they carry quite differently.
Hey Chief whats your thoughts on the Walther PDP? I was considering that or my recently acquired VP9 for my CCW
A Jake hill fan ? I think I'm gonna like this channel.
Yessir. He puts out good stuff, he's also super cool about people using his music. Thanks for watching man.
@@navyman8903 no problem have a good day.
Couldn’t agree more. G17, G19 & G41 💪
USP 45 concealed…young and dumb, you say?
I think not.
Please do a M17/M18 video and talk how bad it is, I prefer the 19X over the M17.
Oh it's going down.
@@navyman8903 Hell Yeah!!!
Brother, I love your gun content - but including your cats is now over the top. I'm a cat guy, always have been but may one day get a Belgian Malnios for their tier 1 kinda cool :-). My Marine buddies hate cats and so these days I have but a few Marine buddies. I'm actually good with that... Mamma.jpg
Honestly as the years go by, my circle gets smaller. I'm 4 years out from hitting 20 and retiring. My girl and I both love cats, which is good. My ex wife didn't, which should have been a sign. Thanks for watching Devil Dog.
@@navyman8903 Roger that Sir. I retired in 2004 and my circle is non-existent these days. I suppose I am no longer relevant. However, comma, what I do know at age 60 is that I still train 6 days a week as if my life depends on it - it does. Most of my circle are now underground and no longer training. God willing I'll die under a bar. In any event, my ex-wife also hated cats but loved the Marine lifestyle I provided her. That should have been a red star cluster sign for me. Semper
Beretta PX4 G-SD. All I need.
I love the USP! It's mostly a range/home defense gun for me but why is it dumb to carry? It was good enough for Tom Cruise.
Some days, I feel going light with my P2000SK. Other days, I want my full size USP45.
Love me some USP45. The P2ksk and the P30sk are the only sub compacts I like.
Full size is the 👑 oh yes, metal frame please 👍.
I think the main issue is still tradeoff in terms of ease of carry and ease of use. I'm not very big, so carrying a full size would be extremely difficult except in harsh winter scenarios. However, I still try to stay away from the micro-ultra-lights because they just don't seem as reliable, durable, accurate, and easy to grab and deploy as bigger models.
For me, it's hard to find the right balance of everything, but I find myself going time and time again to HK simply because of their sheer reliability, durability, and the paddle magazine release. The Subcompact p30sk works great for this reason, although I would still prefer HK release a single stack 9mm, even if it came at the cost of less rounds. Because again, in my philosophy reliability and durability are paramount over everything else, and I just don't trust the flimsy sig 365s and hellcats. I think the fixation on round count and super tiny size is really unhealthy, and we should put priority once again on a well designed well balanced platform.
Given those restrictions I think you did well. The P30 carries well for me, and I do have to dress around it, and the G17/P30L. It's worth it for me, but I get what you're saying.
I am 5 foot 4 and carry the same gun for work as my ccw. A full size glock 21 or hk45, unless I work where I have to carry a 9mm, then it's usually a beretta or a p30. I also live in Florida so I wear the bear minimum of clothes and never had an issue in any way carrying a full size handgun.
I guess I’m an old school metal mad lad- Smith & Wesson 4566 for me.
Definitely 80's level mad lad.
Could you do a video on tips and tricks on making carrying full-sized pistol more comfortable to conceal carry? I currently EDC an M18 and love it but I'd like to hear if you have any advice on making full-sized carry more comfortable.
Thanks for the video Navyman! I’m going to carry my USP 45 soon.
Thanks for watching and let me know how it goes.
M&P 2.0 with a 4 inch barrel is the smallest I go. I wear it comfortably and I'm not a big dude.
Amen
the thing with compact you have to use hot ammo to make up for the short barrel to bring the ballistics close to the longer barrel guns full size has controlablity plus capacity bottom line good holster and for summer carry blackhawk gun fanny pack a large will hold 1911 beretta 92 or 96 comes able to carry an extra mag using mine foe 3 years
+1 for the Session 9 clip 😂. Full size all day, way easier than people think..
I just can't.
I am a single man. I am in good shape.
I must wear decent, form-fitting clothes.
No.
I want, 229 maybe in pants, but, not right now.
I've gone back and forth between full size and compact and subcompact. I find that full size grips leave a little printing spot on me whereas compact (G19 size) doesn't. So it's situational. If I'm at work where I want 0% printing no matter what, I go compact. So, realistically, that's most of the time nowadays.
That's understandable too. You have to have options and the right tool for the job. But I've seen dudes in hoodie weather make an argument for carrying a single stack micro 9 when they could easily do more. So it's a balance of requirements and laziness. (Not saying the laziness applies to you, just in general).
@@navyman8903 exactly lol, it's definitely laziness but to each their own I suppose 🤷♂️
CZ master race lol. I love my P-06. Steel frame, hammer fired .40 as I swear it was designed by someone with my exact hands. Used to conceal it everywhere until I figured out just how rare they are. Now it's a range toy, but my new carry is a Tanfoglio (Italian CZ clone) in 10mm so now I have more power with a way less rare pistol. Plus it fits my hand the same so win/win for me.
Bro I rock a deagle sometimes . I don't wanna hear it . Man up
P O W E R move.
@@navyman8903 lolz indeed
I CCW an HK VP9 Tactical. My eyes are bad and need a red dot. I would only carry a single stack or 1.5 stack as a backup or in certain situations where I have to be ultra discreet. The belt and holster make a difference. As I am a little larger person, a Columbia shirt worn untucked does the trick for me. No printing at all.
That's awesome to hear man, that's a great choice.
@@navyman8903 Appreciate it
I carry a CZ P10C, great gun, gonna try out the P10F for fun. Definitely gonna take this to heart.
Let me know how it works out for you if you don't mind. At first you have to shuffle things around and find out how to work it properly. But once you do the capability and confidence it gives you is worth it.
Kinda cracks me up how people will have an x300 on a Glock 19. Just have the extra barrel length as well
P365 cuz the real balance for me is "there's a 99.999% chance this thing is never leaving the holster, I shoot it well enough, and I'm never gonna leave it at home and don't need to dress around it because it's so damn small"
I've recently been shooting and carrying the M&P 2.0 full size. The fullsize grip on that gun seems to conceal better for me when carried appendix over a G17. I picked up the metal frame version the other day and honestly it's still light enough to be carried and has a stupid nice trigger.