I know what you're saying. I also like the sonics of the higher registers. Don't get me wrong, I love a good Drop E 0-0-1-0 riff but I find it's often quite muddy and undefined compared to that tightness and melody you can really hear in tunings like Drop C# and Drop D. I also find playing a 6 string more pleasing for me personally. I have 7 string that I sometimes play in G# standard, but I always find myself spending more time playing in D# standard or Drop C# with my 6 string.
Yeah, listen to black or death metal and some bands experiment all over the place, but you can also hear basically a record that could have been released 20 years ago or this year if you want.
Poison, the Knife or the noose?… Yeah 2005-2008 was a splendid time period for metalcore. Killing with a smile and Horizons are my favorite, but Shogun is my favorite Trivium album for sure.
@@alternativerockemo6783not at all, previous generations wrote SONGS as well as sick ass riffs that entire generations know, put on davidian in a room of 40 year olds we ALL know it. but the modern shit is just noise for noise sake like yeah mate some of us grew out of our cannibal corpse phase in 96.
@@rivertam711 In 2004 the Metalcore, Deathcore music was a "new" thing. Much less band was, and muchless unknown theme was, and it was 20 years ago. As I lay Dying second album release was in 2005. And the all metalcore meme what we know now its from As I Lay Dying and Killswitch Engage. And sorry for my english but I try my best
If yall miss that 04 sound, you really need to check out Sylosis's Conclusion of an Age album. So many fucking bangers. Our boy here has covered them before, but only their new stuff, which is still good.
@@tsk3884 you guys are literally limiting yourself to a specific era which means you are missing out on anything good or interesting that could come past that era. I rather prefer to have all possible eras combined because there are always some good bands and songs in all decades. There is still some good stuff today, maybe it's not so easy to find anymore, but it does exist.
@@alternativerockemo6783 i keep an eye on the modern stuff too my friend because i belong in this era cuz im 21 years old but i grew up with the 70-80-90s and a bit of 00s and my soul belongs there but i appreciate some modern stuff too
@@tsk3884 I get what you mean, people usually prefer what they grew up with as it creates emotions, feelngs and memories of the past times they are familiar (nostalgia) I was born in the 90's and grew up with the 90's and 2000's music mostly, although I didn't even know many Rock or Metal bands at that time because in our country (Germany) Rock was not really Mainstream anymore, only generic POP and Hip Hop was Mainstream 90% of the time. Although there were a few rare exeptions such as Rammstein, Linkin Park, System of a Down, Bullet For My Valentine, but those were only the rare exceptions (less than 10% of the total Mainstream) So I was very happy when in 2006 UA-cam came along and gave us the possibility to find new Rock and Metal bands outside the Mainstream. I literally discovered 99% of my most favorite Rock and Metal bands from the Internet, mostly modern era bands (2000+) I still remember chilling in my room in 2006 at the age of 15 years, jamming to amazing Rock bands I just discovered that day by accident... literally my entire life changed from that day on, I was obsessed with it for years to come Personally I like the modern 2000+ music more, it has more complex structure, it's deeper and more diverse, with more emotional range and more vocal range and can be a lot more energetic and intensive than compared to the older stuff from the pre-90's There are so many new sub-genres today that didn't even exist before the 90's (Grunge, Post-Grunge, Nu-Metal, Symphonic Metal, Metalcore, Post-Hardcore, Pop Punk) these are all my most favorite sub-genres, which is probably the reason why I'm not so much interested into the 80's music because it was missing the genres I like the most today
@@eternalfaeri1415 then again the "Metal bands" from the 1960's is hardly the same as modern Metal today, it's almost like a completely different sub-genre now entirely. The "classic" Metal bands sound more like generic Rock bands for modern standards; simple and easy Rock riffs, simple structure, simple drum beats (nothing too crazy or exessive like today) Thrash Metal and Death Metal in the 1980's was the first real thing that can be recognized as actually "Heavy Metal" music, with lots of excessive drumming (blasting beats) using double-kick bass drums and more aggressive style overall. Anything before the 1980's was just too soft, too slow and too calm to be considered Heavy Metal music LoL
It seems like both of these types of metal could be smoothed into one song as a generational collab. Nevermind, I bet it'd be too difficult to pull off 👀👀
2004 was a whole different era i miss it As i Lay Dying As blood runs black asking alexandria parkway drive august burns red a day to remember… miss may i.. motionless in white and many more… nostalgic days
Accurate AF
2004: Banger machine
2024: My guitar is DJ
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@@JustNormalManInTheWorld 2 comments.
Haha, dubstep pretending to be metal. 😂
More notes vs more noises
2004 WINS, FLAWLESS VICTORY.... FATALITY!!!
Bro my brain still thinks 2004 is 10 years ago 💀🥲
Same here
Isn't it? 😱
No it definitely it
It is lol
@@DonPetrushka No, it's only 3 years ago.
2004: banger riffs and lick
2024: F tuning, 0-0-0-1-0-0 riffs, slide and squeal
Whammy pedal galore
2004: six of the same metalcore patterns under different melodic structures
2024: Ride off what Meshuggahs been doing for 26 years
Still banger riffs 😂
@@TheBanana93fax
f tuning?
2024 asked "What if the entire song is a breakdown?"
It pleases the inner caveman, like throwing rocks in the woods and breaking sticks. Gotta embrace the smoothbrain sometimes
Yes, I feel like that too, its kinda boring tho
Didn’t Bury Your Dead already do that in like 2008?
@@MusicCityMiriion dissonance did this as well with 'Minus the herd'
@@averyhagaman9310yes me like breakdown
Bruh the saxophones are actually so accurate
Hahaha I put him off 😏
It's a bottle. Bottles are accurate
Dreamwake has entered the chat…
Dreamwake and Rivers of Nihil heck yeah
Nik was there 😏
Kinda miss 04 tbh, I miss how the riffs were heavy but still melodic
New boundaries and dying wish albums would be right up your alley
I know what you're saying. I also like the sonics of the higher registers.
Don't get me wrong, I love a good Drop E 0-0-1-0 riff but I find it's often quite muddy and undefined compared to that tightness and melody you can really hear in tunings like Drop C# and Drop D.
I also find playing a 6 string more pleasing for me personally. I have 7 string that I sometimes play in G# standard, but I always find myself spending more time playing in D# standard or Drop C# with my 6 string.
Vildhjarta heavy and melodic af at the same time
It's way I like melodic death metal
@@jeffymetal941 Couldn't agree more, the new boundaries album is soo good
That era in the late 90s/early 2000s when metal and punk/hardcore were coming together is undefeated.
Fr
Metalcore
Yes, i love the band thrice because of that
the late 70’s early 80’s metal is undefeated!
@@Melchiiahit sounded like shit
Smack that sh!t together and make a great song. 2024 can be a breakdown while 2004 can be the groove
Feels 🎉
Does that make it 2014?
@@austeria2669 The 10s were the GOATd time of metal. 2012-2018
The ‘04 riff sounds like the end result of “how to As I Lay Dying in 30 seconds”
it's just At the Gates/In Flames
@@abyssalspecter93 Nope the first person was more correct you're wrong! Next time just shut up!
@@thisnameistaken why do you type like a boomer?
@@thisnameistaken the funniest thing is the fact that I'm subbed to you, I don't even know who you are LOL, I must have watched you like 10 years ago
@@abyssalspecter93 I did tap into that TBOI crowd back in the day! Or you saw one of my old metal covers.
I like 2000s metalcore way more than modern tings
Same here
The best era
who doesnt, post 2010 metalcore is ass. Hell, Metal anything.
@@vonbl3 your opinion is wrong
@@alternativerockemo6783 right
We are LONG overdue for a how to Fear Factory
Finally one I can support...fear factory and diecast are brutally overlooked.
2024 When the breakdown has a breakdown
lmao
You forgot to put a breakdown into that another breakdown
Necrophagist 2004 : hell yeah
Necrophagist 2024 : 404 Not Found
The unfortunate reality.
@@xenophagiaSadly, it's the way she goes, Muhammad left to get cigarettes and never came back 😢
I don't know if I'll ever not be sad about this
Dude you gotta turn this into a track! The saxophone unironically hits hard with the chunky riff goodness. WE NEED IT PLEASE POOKIE NIK!!!!!
That's what I was dreaming about whole night after hearing this!
I'm looking forward to that as well
you'd love Dreamwake. Listen to memories by them.
@@BulletFever409 thank you very. Definitely will try
@@BulletFever409 Omg. Sax is amazing with metal if it's mixed properly. Thanks.
Definitely prefer 2004
name of the track? pls
@@Gregorzkamsame here 😊
@@Gregorzkam It's just nik playing a riff on the spot that sounds like something from 2004. It's sounds similar to As I lay Dying tho.
Metalcore 2004 vs Metalcore 2024
Yeah, listen to black or death metal and some bands experiment all over the place, but you can also hear basically a record that could have been released 20 years ago or this year if you want.
Ah back when riffs existed! Lol
It’s good to see that metal musicians are finally hydrating in 2024.
2004 is the best next question
2004 had/ has the riffs, 2024 went for groove. Call me nostalgic but I prefer the former for some subgenres.
It's just nu metal bullshit all over again tbh.
Getting a Within The Ruins "Tractor Pull" vibe from the 2004 even though that song came out 2009. I miss technical and shreddy metalcore
tractor pull is one of their best songs hands down
Shogun era Trivium was the pinnacle of metal.
PREACH BROTHER! KIRUSUTE AMEN :D
That "New Wave of American Heavy Metal" style of metalcore was the greatest
Poison, the Knife or the noose?…
Yeah 2005-2008 was a splendid time period for metalcore. Killing with a smile and Horizons are my favorite, but Shogun is my favorite Trivium album for sure.
AILD was peak for me
This was seamless and we need a full song ASAP 🐐🐐
I'd like a mix of both bc that's what I play
Good choice fella
good choice
NIKKKK I BEG THAT U DO A HOW TO PERIPHERY PLEEEEASE
FOR REAL
Both sound amazing tbh, especially together
Both are solid af 👌
2004 is simply classic throw down jams, 2024 is wild out there "what's next" madness that I love ❤️.
20 years and it still feels like yesterday. Still kicks ass and melodic af
That transition was super clean 🔥😂
Nothing beats 90s metal
@@alternativerockemo6783not at all, previous generations wrote SONGS as well as sick ass riffs that entire generations know, put on davidian in a room of 40 year olds we ALL know it.
but the modern shit is just noise for noise sake like yeah mate some of us grew out of our cannibal corpse phase in 96.
Both go hard af
nothing will touch the groovyness of early 2000's metalcore
2004 is vastly superior
metal 2024 is just how many breakdowns and weird sounds can you make ur guitar do and fit into 2 minutes
Metal 2004 that intricate beautiful unpredictable riffs that prolong metal 2024 harmonics and near the same song structure on every "our best release"
Skill vs technology
2004 all day.
2004: As I Lay Dying
2024: All same sound metal band
Yeah cause NO ONE sounded like AILD in 2004 right hahahahaha
@@rivertam711 In 2004 the Metalcore, Deathcore music was a "new" thing. Much less band was, and muchless unknown theme was, and it was 20 years ago. As I lay Dying second album release was in 2005. And the all metalcore meme what we know now its from As I Lay Dying and Killswitch Engage.
And sorry for my english but I try my best
True , i miss 2004 metalcore era
1994: Cryptosy
2004: All same sound metal band
@@lekjambret8259 what's name of 2004 track? pls
70s and 80s metal is the best
tbh, I like both, I listen to both. Depends on song not time for me.
2004 metal will always be superior
2004 riff is a banger
04 riffs make me wanna play more 🎸🤘
Nothing beats the 1990s to 2008
Would love to see a full song that switches back and forth between the two different eras.
2004: As I Lay Dying
2024: Every Metal Band
The 2004 riffs kinda remind me of old Miss May I.
If yall miss that 04 sound, you really need to check out Sylosis's Conclusion of an Age album. So many fucking bangers. Our boy here has covered them before, but only their new stuff, which is still good.
Make a track that has both, like for example the 2004 in the verses and than in the chorus the 2024 one. Would love to see that!
From headbanger to headbanging the wall.
All that remains vs. Dreamwake
Bring back 2004!!!
That went unapologetically thall there at the end Nik. Say you're sorry not sorry.
So accurate! And as an almost old guy...I still prefer 2004 metal.
2004 will always be the best nice and simple and melodic. Beautiful
Bullet for my Valentine vs. Born of Osiris
2004: All That Remains? Asking Alexandria?
Man, those actually kinda worked together! Would love to see a full version fusing the two together
Ahhh so that's why metal isn't popular anymore
Literally more popular than ever.
Sometimes i think that early to mid 2000's were the peak of modern metal...
Love em both but something more authentic about earlier tunes. Thanks Nik
2000s were the golden era of heavy music
And in the 2000s people were saying 90s metal was the pinnacle. Just listen to what you like.
I would say 70s till 90s and early 00s
@@tsk3884 you guys are literally limiting yourself to a specific era which means you are missing out on anything good or interesting that could come past that era.
I rather prefer to have all possible eras combined because there are always some good bands and songs in all decades. There is still some good stuff today, maybe it's not so easy to find anymore, but it does exist.
@@alternativerockemo6783 i keep an eye on the modern stuff too my friend because i belong in this era cuz im 21 years old but i grew up with the 70-80-90s and a bit of 00s and my soul belongs there but i appreciate some modern stuff too
@@tsk3884 I get what you mean, people usually prefer what they grew up with as it creates emotions, feelngs and memories of the past times they are familiar (nostalgia)
I was born in the 90's and grew up with the 90's and 2000's music mostly, although I didn't even know many Rock or Metal bands at that time because in our country (Germany) Rock was not really Mainstream anymore, only generic POP and Hip Hop was Mainstream 90% of the time.
Although there were a few rare exeptions such as Rammstein, Linkin Park, System of a Down, Bullet For My Valentine, but those were only the rare exceptions (less than 10% of the total Mainstream)
So I was very happy when in 2006 UA-cam came along and gave us the possibility to find new Rock and Metal bands outside the Mainstream.
I literally discovered 99% of my most favorite Rock and Metal bands from the Internet, mostly modern era bands (2000+)
I still remember chilling in my room in 2006 at the age of 15 years, jamming to amazing Rock bands I just discovered that day by accident...
literally my entire life changed from that day on, I was obsessed with it for years to come
Personally I like the modern 2000+ music more, it has more complex structure, it's deeper and more diverse, with more emotional range and more vocal range and can be a lot more energetic and intensive than compared to the older stuff from the pre-90's
There are so many new sub-genres today that didn't even exist before the 90's (Grunge, Post-Grunge, Nu-Metal, Symphonic Metal, Metalcore, Post-Hardcore, Pop Punk) these are all my most favorite sub-genres, which is probably the reason why I'm not so much interested into the 80's music because it was missing the genres I like the most today
I prefer 2004 metal over this over exaggerated 2024 crap
Well that's just like your opinion man
2024 is something different that went past metal. Metal is still a relatively new genre so it has so much room to evolve
@@bigdane8828metal is almost 60 years old.
@@eternalfaeri1415 okay maybe not new but metal has been evolved into becoming what it is today
@@eternalfaeri1415 then again the "Metal bands" from the 1960's is hardly the same as modern Metal today, it's almost like a completely different sub-genre now entirely.
The "classic" Metal bands sound more like generic Rock bands for modern standards; simple and easy Rock riffs, simple structure, simple drum beats (nothing too crazy or exessive like today)
Thrash Metal and Death Metal in the 1980's was the first real thing that can be recognized as actually "Heavy Metal" music, with lots of excessive drumming (blasting beats) using double-kick bass drums and more aggressive style overall.
Anything before the 1980's was just too soft, too slow and too calm to be considered Heavy Metal music LoL
That Loathe t-shirt tho
2004: let’s make a sweet riff
2024: what if we just forgot how to play guitar and throw in random noises
Metal in 2004:
Lars: "Imma use my cooking pans in my drums instead"
I miss the old days.
Man metal went from fun to listen to, to white noise in 20 years.
Melodic metal hands down best metal of all ages
Metal 1994: I wanna die or everythings gotta die and you came here knowing that. So FUCKING HIT IT! Whoa!
This is actually super sick. Love it!
2004 is better
Awh man 04 got me in the feels
Honestly both sound cool. I’m glad metal has eras
I remember back in 2004 when people used to say to me, "how can you listen to that? It's just noise!"... 😏
Ok but that riffen is fucking fire 🔥
That Loathe shirt tho...
We want full metal 2024 song Nik!
This needs a full song ASAP
Early 2000’s all day. Heavy breakdowns and melody. 2024 is just breakdown after breakdown with a few squeals in between
Metal 90's rules!
Nah that first riff was actually lit af tho
2024 is just noise!
We don't say noise... we call it distortion. Old school metalheads from the 80s complained about 00s metal for the exact same reason.
lol music is just an organised combination of Noise and Silence. Next F Tier opinion kgo
@@SuperJack-Jack 2004 had more distortion tho
"WHEN IS NIK GONNA GET SOME TATS BRUH"
Nik: ...FINE GOD.
That shit slaps so hard together. A whole song of this type beat would go so fuckin hard
Feels like the drums got faster and the guitar got slower
So... Technical and authentic vs lazy and ironic. 😂
2024 é uma versão metal de For You de Will Knight
Metal 2004: Good
Metal 2024: Sucks
BRUH I WISH I WAS PLAYING MY SAX FOR THEM
Personally
I'm loving the change.
🤟
It’s just so beautiful!
It seems like both of these types of metal could be smoothed into one song as a generational collab.
Nevermind, I bet it'd be too difficult to pull off 👀👀
2024 and the drummer needs to play exactly like the drum machine
2004 sounds more like 2007 to be accurate
2004 was a whole different era i miss it As i Lay Dying As blood runs black asking alexandria parkway drive august burns red a day to remember… miss may i.. motionless in white and many more… nostalgic days
Love both!
doom metal 2004: haha amp go BRRRRRRRR
doom detal 2024: haha amp go BRRRRRRRR
I love 1980 metal
lol this is why I love periphery, still have that modern tone but they still actually write bad ass guitar riffs and solos