I watched a different video on the costumes in this show, and she mentioned that the tight corsets didn’t make much sense and that it wasn’t historically accurate, since that era was more about the relaxed silhouette. Also, the waist didn’t have to be accentuated, so that doesn’t make sense. But apparently a period drama wouldn’t be a period drama without a corset being painfully tightened in an opening scene.
Also the queen did move into the fashions as they progressed and the fact that the costume designer claimed otherwise kind of shows she didn’t really care enough to do the research. Regency, but make it hot.
@@hautelemode you obviously already know Mina Le's channel, which is a great one, others I would recommend are Bernadette Banner, Karolina Żebrowska, Morgan Donner, Sewstine and when it comes to male fashion Pinsent Tailoring. (Just the ones of the top of my head.)
The first scene is very confusing and adds to the (especially for this time period) confusion and stereotypes of corsets. It is the regency era, what was the point in having a small waist? Stays at the time rarely had bones even, so tight-lacing like that would have destroyed the corset. It was a pointless scene that wasn’t an accurate representation of undergarments back then. The Bridgerton wouldn’t have fainted because, just like the empire waistline, stays at the time where rarely full stays, but rather shortened as there was no point in having full length stays. They where more like bras cut with a stays pattern
You can blame Gone with the wind and its cultural influence for the obligatory tight lacing scene that seems to be in every historical drama. Ironically Gone With the Wind is one circumstance where the tight lacing actually makes sense.
It's such a lazy shorthand for female repression, especially here. I think the reason it works particularly well for Scarlett is she's the one yelling at them to make it tighter. It demonstrates her vanity, while at the same time telling the audience how narrow her world is. Very few tight-lacing scenes since offer much in the way of additional subtext like that.
I don't think the show is made to be historically accurate, personally I feel it's more of a historical fanfic. I read a lot of these historical romance novels. I love the modern aspects of it even down to the music, it was fun personally. Edit : The fact that people are upset about POC casting really urks me. Take your racist ideology elsewhere
@@user-dz8lc3yf2k it did keep some historical elements so its obvious people expect it to at least make sense in the silhouette (imo i think the breasts could have been more accentuated to really emphasize that regency era silhouette, and the corset scene in the beginning doesnt make sense because the waist didnt need to be accentuated) however its still a really fun show and even tho some bits of dialogue sound unlikely if we take into account the fact that the costuming team had to make around 7000 garments and pieces (in probably an ungodly small amount of time jesus) everyone did an amazing job on the costumes and they all make sense according to how mirojnick envisioned this extra and luxurious aesthetic
@Charisma Girl I do not mean that people are wrong for fact checking, however it is fictional so there should be some leniency. Changing things up or adding a modern spin does not mean we hate history. Fantasy is fiction but not all fiction is fantasy. That's the way I see it. Hopefully with the next season they improve, but generally it is a good show despite some historical inaccuracies.
@222ckc I hate these type of videos coming up in my recommendations. I think silently, people may be more bothered by the diverse cast because I only see these types of criticism for realism in period dramas with one or two black ppl in it. Legit other movies based in a time period can have dragons, magic, Doctor Who running around but then when there's diversity in the cast, everything has to be historically accurate. I don't want to see these videos in my recommendations because it's a FANSTY show!
@@caseyrichardson7223 But it is inspired by a specific era, and I just feel like it’s pointless to do that, if you’re not even using the right stereotypes. I like the modern liberties taken with the patterns and abundance of outfits that wouldn’t actually have been feasible, since it is fantasy, but if you’re using stereotypes for your plot, shouldn’t they at least be the correct ones for the period? They could’ve chosen to pick something new, but they went with the same scene that seems to be in every even vaguely period piece.
I think some people don’t understand why people don’t like Bridgerton fashion. It’s not necessarily because it’s historically inaccurate (which it’s shouldn’t be 100% accurate anyway) But it’s because it’s not cohesive which makes the world seem fake and unprofessional. There are movies like Marie-Antoinette and the live action Cinderella which are not 100% historical accurate at all but they had rules on what they were inspired by and on what rules to keep and what rules the break. These guidelines makes the costumes from the cast more cohesive which makes the more believable in their own alternate reality. (Take the Cinderella movie it was actually mixed with 50’s haute couture gowns which is also what the animated movie did. This keeps the fashion cohesive because they broke the rules only by adding 50s inspiration. So everything was still a fantasy but still believable in their own world)
@@bethany9902 you should be able to understand the thought process without having it explained. Some choices seem like a good idea on paper but in practice doesn't work, for example Lady Featherton being tacky, the horrible colours were enough but the cinched in waist was distracting and made her look like she didn't belong in the programme. The Queens costume was from 50 years in the past, she looked out of place in every scene she was in.
@@vainpiers It is explained in the books and alluded to in the show that that's the point of the Featheringtons. It is suppose to be tacky and ill-fitted. Penelope has a full transformation later in the series going against the terrible way her mom dressed her in the past. Many say the queen is stuck in a different time period due to the King. She tries to stay in clothing he remembers from years past to help him cope with his dementia.
@@bethany9902I wasn't talking about Penelope Im strictly talking about her mother as I personally felt the fitted waist was a bad idea, because it would be considered fashionable in the 21st century and combined with the modern fabrics and colours it doesn't fit the established style of clothing in this universe. The modern fabrics and trimmings are forgivable with most of the other costumes because the silhouette is telling us "this is regency". With the Queen I felt like the old style costumes were a bad idea because the casual viewer wouldn't understand why she was doing that and it very much makes her look out of place, they shouldve had some dialogue or made everyone dress in the same style while at court. As someone who studies costume design these are the things that stand out to me as not working.
I think tho that “Emma”, which was from last year and played during the same fashion period in England, had much better costume design!! It was very historically accurate and at the same time every single outfit was much more intricate, beautiful and the fabrics looked more expensive!! But I still enjoyed the show a lot!! and I do understand the colour choices and establishment contrast between the families. I just didn’t understand why Simon’s wardrobe didn’t evolve into different colours. I would have loved to see him transform his colour into more purple, pastels like Daphne’s blue involved to purple after the wedding..
The dresses in Emma are stunning!! But in fairness to the show think Emma had a much larger budget and since it was a movie not s tv show they probably need to make FAR less dresses. That said I dont really see an excuse for why the main characters clothing was so ill fitting.
I watch it as a historical fantasy so the costumes work for me. Also, I feel spoilt, first Karolina then Mina now you, I can't wait for Micarah to make a video next.
by this time period, men were no longer the peacocks in satin and lace, men's fashion had adopted the dark conservative colors and tailoring that has stuck with it until current times. Blame Beau Brummell.
It bothered me so much women wearing short sleeved dresses no overcoat, months in London weather, that I couldn't pay attention to the show. Every dress same cut and boring although we know the era was so over the top it could give amazing creative ideas to the costume designer. Overall a huge disappointment.
Yeah and no bonnets! Why are they not wearing bonnets and Spencer jackets when they are outside? The main lead actress' dresses all looked the same, same exact dress and just a few colour variations. In Emma 2020 they showed how a character was trying really hard to be fashionable and always went over the top and looked quite ridiculous and they even took inspiration from existing paintings of very extravagant styling at the time. Why couldn't they have done something similar for this?
@@bethany9902 I know. They could at least made it make sense, no one would not be wearing any sort of jacket when outside. They could have done so much more.
@@essjai5D I know, but that doesn’t excuse not wearing jackets outside lol, you can be creative and make it make sense and have a cohesiveness to all the costumes like the film Marie Antoinette absolutely nailed, unlike this series. And make the costumes actually fit the actors as well.
The movie Marie Antoinette did non-accuracy so much better. Bridgerton's dresses weren't cohesive, they felt cheap and ill-fitting imo. They just felt wrong, not artistic.
Exactly, Marie Antoinette is a perfect example of artistic liberty and still making it work. They could have taken inspiration from extravagant styling that was going on in the regency era and exaggerate them, and of course made the dresses fit correctly and use better fabrics. The film Emma did that so well with a certain character who was known for that.
Also the Cinderella live action did a fantastic job because they mixed in 50s fashion like the animated movie did and it was absolutely gorgeous. I think the main difference is that Marie Antoinette and Cinderella had rules to their fashion expression and where to break the rules that everything was cohesive and felt like it could actually work in their own alternate reality. But Bridgerton had no rules at all and was completely all over the place which makes everything seems fake and not professional (I had the same reaction to the Witcher show). If you want to make a loose interpretation of historical fashion you still need rules on how your breaking them and why so the wardrobe from all the cast still fits together.
I agree that they could look cheap and I’ll fitting at times, but I don’t agree with them not looking cohesive, to me they had clear rules for the rule bending/modernizations (modern fabrics and colors+modern accessories). Also making costumes for films is an entirely different monster, for tv shows it usually means more costumes for more characters and with lower budgets, many productions borrow costumes but everything was handmade for this show. Like neither Marie Antoinette nor Cinderella had small costume budgets, even comparing most film costumes to those productions feels unfair imo. Could bridgerton have managed the budget better?? Idk I wasn’t there but they made around 7500 costume pieces it’s a huge workload.
I’m so tired of the use of corsets in this way in movies and television. It’s borderline sexist that they keep insisting on using the “fainting from a corset being too tight” bit. It’s not interesting, funny or even sensical.
I absolutely hate the assumption that millions of women for over two hundred years were wearing a corset because they wanted to look skinny. They didn’t have stretch fabrics of fast fashion back then. Bras needed to be durable and supportive, and corsets and stays filled that function.
@@susanita5211 There was also a strong belief that corsets were essential for women's health, it was not just about fashion. And supportive garments that work kinda like corsets are still used today for medical reasons. In these shows the women act like they have never worn a corset before, well in the Regency era they wouldn't have, but in other eras it was a daily practice.
Especially since historically, *men* wore corsets too...and I've yet to see a gentleman faint from exhaustion due to his restrictive undergarments in a period drama 👀
I can live with a more fantasy take on historical accuracy, the bright and over the top dresses fit with the ✨aesthetic✨ of the show. HOWEVER, what I can not live with is the gross misrepresentation of corsets and the lack of bonnets! Especially the first tight lacing scene is, while not surprising (movies/shows have shown corsets in a bad light for a long time now), so infuriating and unnecessary. Why would someone tightlace a corset if they then wear a loose dress over it??? Also corsets of the time couldn’t even be tightlaced. There was no boning and woman mostly wore stays (more like a half corset).
just a small correction, stays were about the same lengths as corsets and were just their predecessors. they were wearing what we call transitional stays which were the shortened versions of stays
I agree with all of this. I also made a face at the dresses with the empire waistline cutting right ACROSS the boobs instead of under them. It cuts the breast in half , creating a look of 4 breasts. and no period of history had that style. It would be very uncomfortable and ugly too. If they want a waistline at that spot then you'd squish the breast upward to be above the seam.
@Charisma Girl Yes I totally agree with you if buying 'off the rack'. I'm 36G and the struggle is real. But for this time period all clothing was custom made and there's just no excuse for it. Also the principal actors costumes were all made specifically for this production, not rented from a costume house which is common for extras.
The corsetry in the first scene is so inaccurate. Ladies at the time would not be tightlacing like that because the waist would not be visible. Also, I don’t understand why she’s wearing her corset on bare skin.
@@avonlies9482 Even if they wanted to have her tightlaced, just put her in chemise, a shift whatever you wish to call it. Hell, put a modern camisole underneath just SOMETHING.
I never thought of the show of ever intending to be historically accurate. The diversity of the cast and costumes...I always thought it was meant to be a love story and exploration of characters with the colours, costumes and setting of England used just for aesthetics and background? It feels very theatrical to me. I don’t think the creators intended to be historically accurate...I mean, just look at the casting 🤷♀️ I like it.
In a way, in Bridgerton the black duke is cultural appropriation, for at that time there were no black dukes conquering young women of English high society. But apparently it is only cultural appropriation when a white person does something non-white, when a non-white person does it, it is inclusion, however fictional it may be. LOL
I love them!! Like even watching as a dumb teen I could just tell they are not historically accurate, but they are not meant to be, her first wedding gown is still ingrained into my head it’s so dreamy
I have seen a photo of some actresses from this show randomly and i was like "nice they look like some young gals who are about to go to prom in those fancy sparkly dresses" but no, they are supposed to be 16th century aristocrats wtf 🤢
I'll add Nicole Rudolph to that list. Her channel is impressive for the historical analysis and the sewing she does, not to mention making period shoes!
One of the details I love about Marina’s clothing is her necklace which is a lover’s eye. It’s basically a necklace with a illustration of the eye of your lover. A lot of lovers in secret would wear these, which totally fits with Marina’s storyline.
The only major pet peeve I had about the costumes was the inaccuracy in the corsetry. Yes corsets could be painful and restrictive in the eras either side of Regency, but the column-style dresses didn't require a synched waist and the actual corsets worn were not often boned and were mostly for support. There is a scene where it shows cuts on a character's back from her tight corset, which would never happen. Women always wore a chemise under the corset but modern Hollywood doesn't seem to think that chemises are 'sexy'. That's another thing that baffles me about Hollywood and corsets, they're seen as super sexy in some cases but awful in others, I think they are used in scenes like in the first episode for a nod to feminism, which can be done in much more effective and historically accurate ways. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. P.S. I do really love Bridgerton, though.
I've heard it said that the culture is waaayyyy off and that British folk do not/did not act or think this way. That the show is more like Americans pretend playing that they're living in the Regency era, which.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I loved Eloise's coming out dress, it was gorgeous. Even though there was a lot of yellow, Penelope gowns were so cute especially the embroidery on them.
the first scene being the tightlacing of STAYS literally there me off so bad i couldn't focus on anything else after that (for those who don't know its not even possible to tightlace stays)
@@Laura55sere i mean the corset pulling beauty is pain scene is an unfortunate staple in almost every movie featuring a love interest who wears corsets but my brain had a very visceral reaction to it being done on a stay when i know for a fact that its physically not possible
Being a follower of the book serie myself I can say I don't mind at all the artistic licenses they took in both the costumes and the black representation. It actually fits well, it doesn't feel forced and it makes the story lighter and more enjoyable. Maybe Disney can learn a thing or two from this.
I haven’t read the books but I really enjoy this approach to inclusion in historical dramas. You can see that Shonda Rhimes learned her lesson from the ill-fated travesty that was Star Crossed (?), no one wants color blind casting where mom is black, dad is white, so the son is logically Asian (it seems like such a small gripe but it means a lot). If you’re gonna add people of color just do it naturally, Simon is mixed-race but his boxing friend has a black wife, and logically a black child. I just wish Disney would learn from Bridgerton’s casting and recast the live-action Little Mermaid, King Triton to be specific.
@Charisma Girl girl ur so pressed for what? just say ur racist and go like why are u so bothered that there were poc in the show? can poc never have a thing? the show isnt supposed to be historically accurate thats obvious, i absolutely loved the different races in the show and finally having some representation of different races without it being about just that, their race.
@Charisma Girl - Queen Charlotte was in fact a woman of colour. And there were many black people in England at that time, not all of whom were slaves. And some of them were probably rich too. If you look at everything through the lens of white history, then of course you won't see black or mixed people as anything but slaves.
Queen Charlotte actually did wear the fashionable empire-line dresses. Idk why everyone seems to think she didn't because we still have some of these dresses today.
I adore seeing everyone's take on Bridgeton, this is the third clothing review I've watched and so far all the videos have been so unique in the information given! Love this!!
Dude, we all know it wasn't going to be 100% historically accurate, take a good look at Marie Antoinette (hello? I Want Candy is in the damn soundtrack) - a fine example taking liberties with the fashion of the era without taking you out of it, another would be Anna Karenina - a hecka lot of inaccuracies but the costumes didn't look too out of place with each other. Sure, we can nitpick about the fabrics and patterns used, or the hairstyles, but could the showrunners do the very least in not fucking up with the stays and give us some cohesiveness to the overall aesthetic and silhouette of the costumes?
@@ihateindices chill out...its a tv show. For the average person that doesn't know about the historical period the clothing choices are not fucked up. Plus its a fictional show that is not focused on historical accuracy... I thought it was aesthetically pleasing
@@alichiahouse7050 lmao. as how I’m alright with you lot enjoying the series, at least understand where those who are outraged by the lack of consistency and accuracy are coming from. I’m not asking you to shit on it but you’d be better off knowing what’s wrong with it while still liking it as opposed to being ignorant, no?
@@alichiahouse7050 I think that's the thing. 95% of the "inaccuracies" I really enjoyed. But ceratin things did not seem in world consistent and did not look aesthetically pleasing. Particularly in a historical fantasy that failure in the fashion aspect of world building can alienate an audience. Yes, every era has aspects or trends of very bad fashion. But the bad fashion did not look in-world. It just looked like the costume designer made a mistake. Everyone loves Lady Featherington's ostrich night robe. It's the opposite of historical accuracy, but it looks good and consistent with the character. But Lady Featherington's cinched waist, makes absolutely no sense in-world and just looks bad. It looks like a production mistake and jumps out.
7:05 this looks like it was shot in Bath. Bath was a city at the centre of fashion at the time. They tried to imitate the ancient Greeks and Romans with neoclassical architecture. Hence the clothing style to match. The fashion museum in Bath is a must see for anyone who's visiting the UK and interested in fashion.
when he showed the first picture of the show....I was deeply disappointed and hurt to see her first of all not wearing a shift under the corset and second of all this scene existing at all because tight-lacing was unpopular. but modern society just HAS to show corsets as a method of female oppression, which they aren’t!!!
@@djlivvy46 When did say corsets are "so amazing"? Where did you get that from? You are choosing to be ignorant, that's your problem not mine. I recommended you to go educate yourself, go watch the two youtubers I mentioned that are actually educated in fashion history. Such a stupid response, you could have just educated yourself.
The thing that really annoys me about the costumes is that none of them fit properly! Every dress pretended to have an empire waist, but the waist was cut on top of the underboob. Netflix spent so much money on the costumes, but the designer just made 100 almost identical ill-fitting dresses for Daphne and the rest of the cast. They could have made half that amount and at least made them to fit the actors. Also, no corset would have been worn. Instead, they would have had the chill, non-conforming, and comfortable stays.
Regency corsets didn't look like that. there was no reason to have a tight corset on with an empire waistline. ALSO, Corsets were not tight laced like movies would have you believe and this show did not put their actresses in a shift, which historically would be a MUST. They would NEVER wear a corset against their skin.
@DelmezaRane it's one thing to show the few black aristocrats who existed during that time, it's another to do it 50/50 and to take people who we know were white and to replace them with black people. I, too, wish that in tv shows about the french revolution for example they would show the few black men involved, but they were exceptions. Also race mixing was maybe tolerated when it came to white men with black women, but not so much with the opposite. This show made of fool of itself really.
@Charisma Girl I'm all for a better representation of black people in tv shows, but I am against historic inacuracy. The queen wasn't black for god's sake. It makes me think of when they gave ugg boots to the girls of "little women" lol 😂
@@qsa59 See, your first problem was walking into a historical fantasy and expecting reality. If you can't distinguish between the two, then that's on you.
Hey Luke, I enjoy your videos a lot. Could you maybe do the "5th element" movie costumes designed by Mugler or the early "Star wars" costumes? I find your movie costume reviews super interesting.
I love that you covered the fashions in this show, because I just watched Karolina Zebrowska's critique on Bridgerton's costumes a few days ago. 😃 I was fascinated, and amused, to learn about Queen Charlotte's dislike of the Empire style, which resulted in those bizarre Empire waist/hoop skirt mash-ups. Those pictures were a little yikes. 😂
This is great! I might watch this for the fashion alone. Please do “reign” next. It is NOT historically accurate in any way but there’s some weird fashion I can’t decide if I love or hate. I think you’d have a ball.
You and the meme mother need to talk about this. Also a few films have done 1700s for elders and 1800s for the younger people. But yeah we as viewers are like yeah whats going on? When is this?
SPOILERS: I'm absolutely obsessed with the little butterfly details in Penelope's accessories (and the very giant butterfly on her dress in episode 1). Seeing as butterflies are used as a symbol for transformation, I think it's a great hint at both her Lady Whistledown alter ego and her future growth on the show. There's even a scene where she's wearing a butterfly necklace and butterfly pin in her hair, and Eloise discusses how much she admires Lady Whistledown because she is not tied down by society. "She is able to fly." It's super clever. Also Marina is seen wearing a lover's eye necklace. "In 1785, when Maria Anne Fitzherbert opened a love letter from her admirer, Prince George of Wales, she wasn’t expecting to find an eye, gazing intently back at her." Marina's lover's name is George.
4:00 NO NO NO NO For the last damned time stays and corsets did not hurt and were not tight laced. Plus the stays shes wear would not have even been tighted to that extreme seeing as they were only fabric, a busk, and cording. No boning. Just... Can we stop stereotyping corsets.
If you are looking for really stunning and historically accurate Regency era clothing that show off the amazing details and care given to clothes at the time, I recommend you to make a review of the costumes in "Emma" with Anya Taylor-Joy.
I wanted to see this in theatres sole to get up close looks at the costumes. It was the next film I was going to see and then the lockdown happened. I feel like I would do the film a disservice to watch on my TV. But I will get to it this year.
I'm sick of shows using the excuse that "it's not meant to be historically accurate" as a way to not be creative and just be lazy and rely on clichés and inaccuracies erg
@@joshuaklusewitz1387 I really hate to break it to you, but that claim didn't come about until the 1940's and was based on ONE portrait and ONE comment from some dude that called her ugly. Others who claim she had at least some African heritage, were several generations back. If I remember it right, her supposed black ancestors were alive in the 13th or 14th century which is at least 300 years before Charlotte was born. So she would not have looked even a little bit mixed. If she had actually looked like she had some non-European ancestry there would have been a plethora of caricatures that played it up. Don't get me wrong, I love that this show is doing historical fantasy that includes people of colour (well, black people and ONE asian in a speaking role), but let's not pretend that they're being even remotely accurate. They took a recent myth about a real person and ran with it because it's an intriguing "what if" scenario. Queen Charlotte was about as black as Anne Boleyn. I'm sorry if I come accross as mean, but I'm genuinely worried that this myth has gained such a foothold when there is absolutely NO historical evidence for it. I feel I have to say it again, had Charlotte been black/mixed, her contemporaries would've talked about it a LOT, and they didn't. They agreed she was not an attractive woman, but there is not a single account of her being described as black or mixed.
@@thecricket8620 i agree that often that claim is exaggerated, especially recently, and the shows’s depiction is not « accurate », it’s entirely possible Queen Charlotte was not entirely Northern European, with having Portuguese ancestry that has disputed claims of being mixed with Moorish and northern African ancestry. I agree that while the show takes liberties with it’s diversity of cast, there were more than one upper class depiction of poc people in portraiture in 18th and 19th century England.
I would love if u could make fashion house history videos ! Like a video on Alexander McQueen, Dior etc cause I have no idea of the context of most of them and you’re so knowledgeable!! Xx
I loved this video, it was really considerate and talked about historical costumes but also apreciated the aesthetic value and fantasy that went into the show. After your video I was happy and felt more educated. 10/10
Ok honestly this is the best fashion history check that I have come across. No offense to the experts on the tube but like this super helpful and realistic in explaining the fashion choices.
Love the how you brought up the head wrap and it’s link to African culture especially I’m Nigerian and didn’t even link the two when I saw marina. Shout out to you we Stan!!
I am so your target audience for THIS! I love period pieces, and I LOVED these fantastical, glittered, inspired-by-period pieces. Perhaps oddly, I especially liked the most over-the-top ones worn by the social climbers and Mother Featherington... there's one with pops of lime green... I love love love these should-be-ugly, 1970's couch flower-printed disasters.
Muslin was a actually a very fine and expensive fabric during the regency period as it was still hand spun and hand woven by specialists in India who worked with fibers from a pretty specific plant. It's only "trash fabric" today because british colonialists destroyed the production lines so they could produce muslin more cheaply, and machine weaving is less tightly woven in general
I hope I don’t get crucified for saying this because I do love this channel and your commentary. However, I think the whole “longer videos for channel members” model is flawed and I do think it hurts you in the long run. 1) you already get paid from youtube for views (but that is not a lot of money I get it) 2) you can get sponsors and make money that way (and you have in the past) 3) channels mean that new people won’t be able to see the FULL brilliance of your videos and analysis which is a shame because it’s the content that drives people to like your channel to begin with. You are constricting your own growth by making this channel dynamic occurs IMO. Either way, you are great and good luck, I’ll keep supporting you in other ways . And before people say it’s only 1$ or whatever, it’s not about the money, it’s about the fact that having a channel does impact your influence and growth and it does exclude a % of people who would have liked your content had they seen it. And yes people will also say that “he does still upload shorter videos here” but knowing that there are longer videos behind a paywall leaves a bad taste in the mouth nonetheless. That said, again, I still love your content and your personally and I will continue to support you. I’m just throwing in my 2 cents. No hate please, I’m not here to argue or shade, just wanted to respectfully share my opinion with the hautelamode! P.s. I do have marketing experience if anyone is thinking that my opinion is uninformed. Hautelamode may have a different strategy in mind with this and if so I just don’t see the point. It complicates things and complications on social media are bad because of the inherent nature of these platforms.
It's a Romance novel, a fairytale loosely placed in a real era, that's all. It never pretended to be historically accurate and it does not have to be. It's actually better that they used all these colors and fabrics and even jewelry to highlight specific traits of families and characters and create wonderfull images. Also, they introduced PoC in the era so naturally that I honestly believe is fantastic (it is not the case in the book btw).
The fashion transition of the Regency period that is more important than dresses, that might interest you is the mens tailoring revolution, particularly in British Fashion. Art historians are a good source of paintings which reflect this change, it comes from the French Revolution and a reaction to it and is quite interesting. British tailoring is born here.
I hate how historical shows include a tightlacing scene 99% of the time regardless of time period. Why would anyone do that to themselves when you are going to wear an empire dress??? What's the point? Will we ever get a show/film that understands wearing a corset does not equal tightlacing??
You didn't even wear stays with a regency gown, you wore a sort of bra thing if you were fashionable. Stays (if worn) would never have been tightlaced because it wasn't possible until the invention of metal eyelets. You would simply have torn through the stays. Even when tightlacing was possible, it wasn't commonplace. It was reserved exclusively for extremely fashionable, young women. It wasn't socially expected.
@@katfoster845 agreed, and it just requires a bit of logic to see that women wearing a garment that won't let them breathe properly and can lead to fainting is simply not practical. These women went walking, would rode horses on occasion, they went on social calls and attended balls, how would they do such things without being able to fill their lungs with air?
18 naughties Luke you're killing me I love it (also the tightlacing is random pointless and dumb what is hollywood's obsession with pushing the evil corset narrative)
I am new to your channel, this is only like the third video I've watched so just wondering if you've ever reviewed Legally Blonde costume design or if you want to, I would LOVE to see your take on this classic film
I know this is off subject but Kryzzie “crazy rich Asians closet” did a reaction to your reaction video of her closet. It was fascinating to see her reacting to your reaction. She said you did a good job 👏
No you aren't. I don't know how to describe it. It just seemed cheap and corny to me. Its hard to explain. I usually love anything like that but I couldnt get through the first episode.
@@laurenbray8314 my sentiments exactly. Just seemed like everyone went to party city then decided to make a period drama based on their Costumes they picked up.
Please do a reaction video on the way we wore with Doris, I really wish you could see the beautiful vintage Halston dress she has! If you did a collaboration video with her it would be so epic!!
This show reminded me of Riverdale. I could not even get past the first 15 min. The acting was horrible. Especially when the queen praised her for literally nothing.
Waistlines went up and became more relaxed during peace time hence the classical, Regency costume. However during times of unrest, hemlines came down and became tighter to give the wearer a sense of security.
I watched a different video on the costumes in this show, and she mentioned that the tight corsets didn’t make much sense and that it wasn’t historically accurate, since that era was more about the relaxed silhouette. Also, the waist didn’t have to be accentuated, so that doesn’t make sense. But apparently a period drama wouldn’t be a period drama without a corset being painfully tightened in an opening scene.
@@lazula___7589 boning wasn’t even invented yet !!
Everything about those costumes were dramatically inaccurate and I hated it
And also the lack of a shift/chemise under the corset... of course that would be painful!
@@annarita333 oh yeah that too
Also the queen did move into the fashions as they progressed and the fact that the costume designer claimed otherwise kind of shows she didn’t really care enough to do the research. Regency, but make it hot.
Time to join regencytube babe! 🥰
Love your videos!!🥰
i feel honored to be inducted!! but i think your video taught me i have a lot to learn!!!
@@hautelemode you obviously already know Mina Le's channel, which is a great one, others I would recommend are Bernadette Banner, Karolina Żebrowska, Morgan Donner, Sewstine and when it comes to male fashion Pinsent Tailoring. (Just the ones of the top of my head.)
The Avengers of Fashion History.
When worlds collide😍 Love both of ur videos
The featheringtons were absolutely dressed that way to show they were “nouveau riche” compared to the Bridgertons who were old money
And I just love how the costumes made the mom look like some crazy 1950's mom.
The first scene is very confusing and adds to the (especially for this time period) confusion and stereotypes of corsets. It is the regency era, what was the point in having a small waist? Stays at the time rarely had bones even, so tight-lacing like that would have destroyed the corset. It was a pointless scene that wasn’t an accurate representation of undergarments back then. The Bridgerton wouldn’t have fainted because, just like the empire waistline, stays at the time where rarely full stays, but rather shortened as there was no point in having full length stays. They where more like bras cut with a stays pattern
also the mother saying she tightlaced in her youth ???? Meaning in 18th century stays ?? Sis you are lying
You can blame Gone with the wind and its cultural influence for the obligatory tight lacing scene that seems to be in every historical drama.
Ironically Gone With the Wind is one circumstance where the tight lacing actually makes sense.
It's such a lazy shorthand for female repression, especially here. I think the reason it works particularly well for Scarlett is she's the one yelling at them to make it tighter. It demonstrates her vanity, while at the same time telling the audience how narrow her world is. Very few tight-lacing scenes since offer much in the way of additional subtext like that.
They were not aiming to make the costumes historically accurate. That much was very much obvious, they had fun with it 🙂
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The people spreading the Truth about Corsetry and Stays in the comments section, girl i- 😭❤️❤️❤️❤️
It’s the Bernadette Banner effect
They played string quartet arianna grande at the ball in the first ep. after i noticed that my expectations for accuracy in this show was 0 lol
I personally love orchestral versions of pop songs! It fits perfectly with this historical fantasy world.
@@LadyScaper me too, i loved that moment 😝✨
I don't think the show is made to be historically accurate, personally I feel it's more of a historical fanfic. I read a lot of these historical romance novels. I love the modern aspects of it even down to the music, it was fun personally.
Edit : The fact that people are upset about POC casting really urks me. Take your racist ideology elsewhere
Right thank you next was playing in the background.......... And people expect it to be historically accurate?
Exactly it’s not a documentary 🙄
@@user-dz8lc3yf2k it did keep some historical elements so its obvious people expect it to at least make sense in the silhouette (imo i think the breasts could have been more accentuated to really emphasize that regency era silhouette, and the corset scene in the beginning doesnt make sense because the waist didnt need to be accentuated)
however its still a really fun show and even tho some bits of dialogue sound unlikely
if we take into account the fact that the costuming team had to make around 7000 garments and pieces (in probably an ungodly small amount of time jesus) everyone did an amazing job on the costumes and they all make sense according to how mirojnick envisioned this extra and luxurious aesthetic
@Charisma Girl I do not mean that people are wrong for fact checking, however it is fictional so there should be some leniency. Changing things up or adding a modern spin does not mean we hate history. Fantasy is fiction but not all fiction is fantasy. That's the way I see it.
Hopefully with the next season they improve, but generally it is a good show despite some historical inaccuracies.
@222ckc I hate these type of videos coming up in my recommendations. I think silently, people may be more bothered by the diverse cast because I only see these types of criticism for realism in period dramas with one or two black ppl in it. Legit other movies based in a time period can have dragons, magic, Doctor Who running around but then when there's diversity in the cast, everything has to be historically accurate. I don't want to see these videos in my recommendations because it's a FANSTY show!
Who else wants to see Luke review Schitt’s Cteek fashion? Moira Rose.... truly an icon and Luke needs to give us the tea
lots of designer stuff there
oh yes, please
Yes yes yessssss
I'm so confused by Moira's following. Her styling has Disney channel energy.
@@tgime1 I think that’s the whole point of it, it’s very avant-garde
Bridgerton: shows tight lacing in the regency period
Fashion UA-cam: ughhhhhhh
NOOO!! Not the corset scene! It’s fuucking blasphemy, no one, and I mean No One was tight lacing in that era
It’s bad enough in Victorian dramas, where it would at least be historically plausible. This is just ridiculous.
This is a Romance Novel Regency, so anything goes
Guys this isn’t a factual drama, why does it matter🤣
@@caseyrichardson7223 But it is inspired by a specific era, and I just feel like it’s pointless to do that, if you’re not even using the right stereotypes. I like the modern liberties taken with the patterns and abundance of outfits that wouldn’t actually have been feasible, since it is fantasy, but if you’re using stereotypes for your plot, shouldn’t they at least be the correct ones for the period? They could’ve chosen to pick something new, but they went with the same scene that seems to be in every even vaguely period piece.
@@nellikorpi7937 EXACTLY! 🙌✨
I think some people don’t understand why people don’t like Bridgerton fashion. It’s not necessarily because it’s historically inaccurate (which it’s shouldn’t be 100% accurate anyway) But it’s because it’s not cohesive which makes the world seem fake and unprofessional. There are movies like Marie-Antoinette and the live action Cinderella which are not 100% historical accurate at all but they had rules on what they were inspired by and on what rules to keep and what rules the break. These guidelines makes the costumes from the cast more cohesive which makes the more believable in their own alternate reality.
(Take the Cinderella movie it was actually mixed with 50’s haute couture gowns which is also what the animated movie did. This keeps the fashion cohesive because they broke the rules only by adding 50s inspiration. So everything was still a fantasy but still believable in their own world)
I didn't know how to explain my dislike for the show but I think this is it.
Y'all havent watched costume designer talk about her thought process and it shows
@@bethany9902 you should be able to understand the thought process without having it explained. Some choices seem like a good idea on paper but in practice doesn't work, for example Lady Featherton being tacky, the horrible colours were enough but the cinched in waist was distracting and made her look like she didn't belong in the programme. The Queens costume was from 50 years in the past, she looked out of place in every scene she was in.
@@vainpiers It is explained in the books and alluded to in the show that that's the point of the Featheringtons. It is suppose to be tacky and ill-fitted. Penelope has a full transformation later in the series going against the terrible way her mom dressed her in the past. Many say the queen is stuck in a different time period due to the King. She tries to stay in clothing he remembers from years past to help him cope with his dementia.
@@bethany9902I wasn't talking about Penelope Im strictly talking about her mother as I personally felt the fitted waist was a bad idea, because it would be considered fashionable in the 21st century and combined with the modern fabrics and colours it doesn't fit the established style of clothing in this universe. The modern fabrics and trimmings are forgivable with most of the other costumes because the silhouette is telling us "this is regency".
With the Queen I felt like the old style costumes were a bad idea because the casual viewer wouldn't understand why she was doing that and it very much makes her look out of place, they shouldve had some dialogue or made everyone dress in the same style while at court.
As someone who studies costume design these are the things that stand out to me as not working.
I think tho that “Emma”, which was from last year and played during the same fashion period in England, had much better costume design!! It was very historically accurate and at the same time every single outfit was much more intricate, beautiful and the fabrics looked more expensive!!
But I still enjoyed the show a lot!! and I do understand the colour choices and establishment contrast between the families. I just didn’t understand why Simon’s wardrobe didn’t evolve into different colours.
I would have loved to see him transform his colour into more purple, pastels like Daphne’s blue involved to purple after the wedding..
The dresses in Emma are stunning!! But in fairness to the show think Emma had a much larger budget and since it was a movie not s tv show they probably need to make FAR less dresses.
That said I dont really see an excuse for why the main characters clothing was so ill fitting.
2020 Emma is an underrated masterpiece
"Lady Whistledown, yee old gossip girl"
This BROKE me. Had to pause the video lol
I watch it as a historical fantasy so the costumes work for me. Also, I feel spoilt, first Karolina then Mina now you, I can't wait for Micarah to make a video next.
Riiight 😎
Micarah probably won’t make a video on it since she doesn’t like to make rant videos but I hope she does
@@gillian1242 i think she secretly likes to rant every now and then
Karolina really delivered 🫖
I expected more from the male costumes, I was hoping for more dramatic shoes and scarves.
i wish i waste knowledgeable about menswear cause i’d love to have covered it, but alas i think i would have died 🙃
@@hautelemode omg you replied! Love you King!!
by this time period, men were no longer the peacocks in satin and lace, men's fashion had adopted the dark conservative colors and tailoring that has stuck with it until current times. Blame Beau Brummell.
I loved the Duke's costumes. Didn't really pay much attention to the rest!
Zack pinsent does a good video on men’s clothes.
Nooo not the tightlaced stays ... :(((( with no chemise underneath. :( preposterous
It bothered me so much women wearing short sleeved dresses no overcoat, months in London weather, that I couldn't pay attention to the show. Every dress same cut and boring although we know the era was so over the top it could give amazing creative ideas to the costume designer. Overall a huge disappointment.
Yeah and no bonnets! Why are they not wearing bonnets and Spencer jackets when they are outside? The main lead actress' dresses all looked the same, same exact dress and just a few colour variations. In Emma 2020 they showed how a character was trying really hard to be fashionable and always went over the top and looked quite ridiculous and they even took inspiration from existing paintings of very extravagant styling at the time. Why couldn't they have done something similar for this?
@@aspannas The costume designer hated bonnets so she said no bonnets. its not a doc or a retelling of a true story
@@bethany9902 I know. They could at least made it make sense, no one would not be wearing any sort of jacket when outside. They could have done so much more.
@@aspannas they had Ariana grande and billy E. playing at the parties lol. It isn’t meant to be historically accurate. It’s a modern take
@@essjai5D I know, but that doesn’t excuse not wearing jackets outside lol, you can be creative and make it make sense and have a cohesiveness to all the costumes like the film Marie Antoinette absolutely nailed, unlike this series. And make the costumes actually fit the actors as well.
The movie Marie Antoinette did non-accuracy so much better. Bridgerton's dresses weren't cohesive, they felt cheap and ill-fitting imo. They just felt wrong, not artistic.
Exactly, Marie Antoinette is a perfect example of artistic liberty and still making it work. They could have taken inspiration from extravagant styling that was going on in the regency era and exaggerate them, and of course made the dresses fit correctly and use better fabrics. The film Emma did that so well with a certain character who was known for that.
Also the Cinderella live action did a fantastic job because they mixed in 50s fashion like the animated movie did and it was absolutely gorgeous. I think the main difference is that Marie Antoinette and Cinderella had rules to their fashion expression and where to break the rules that everything was cohesive and felt like it could actually work in their own alternate reality. But Bridgerton had no rules at all and was completely all over the place which makes everything seems fake and not professional (I had the same reaction to the Witcher show). If you want to make a loose interpretation of historical fashion you still need rules on how your breaking them and why so the wardrobe from all the cast still fits together.
I agree that they could look cheap and I’ll fitting at times, but I don’t agree with them not looking cohesive, to me they had clear rules for the rule bending/modernizations (modern fabrics and colors+modern accessories). Also making costumes for films is an entirely different monster, for tv shows it usually means more costumes for more characters and with lower budgets, many productions borrow costumes but everything was handmade for this show. Like neither Marie Antoinette nor Cinderella had small costume budgets, even comparing most film costumes to those productions feels unfair imo. Could bridgerton have managed the budget better?? Idk I wasn’t there but they made around 7500 costume pieces it’s a huge workload.
I agree. Like that one girls bright yellow dress just didn’t work
Yes. Cheap and tacky was the feeling I got.
I’m so tired of the use of corsets in this way in movies and television. It’s borderline sexist that they keep insisting on using the “fainting from a corset being too tight” bit. It’s not interesting, funny or even sensical.
I absolutely hate the assumption that millions of women for over two hundred years were wearing a corset because they wanted to look skinny. They didn’t have stretch fabrics of fast fashion back then. Bras needed to be durable and supportive, and corsets and stays filled that function.
@@susanita5211 There was also a strong belief that corsets were essential for women's health, it was not just about fashion. And supportive garments that work kinda like corsets are still used today for medical reasons. In these shows the women act like they have never worn a corset before, well in the Regency era they wouldn't have, but in other eras it was a daily practice.
I feel so sorry for the actresses forced to wear stays and corsets without a chemise! like ouch, that must hurt.
@Tianruo Yang read my comment
Especially since historically, *men* wore corsets too...and I've yet to see a gentleman faint from exhaustion due to his restrictive undergarments in a period drama 👀
I can live with a more fantasy take on historical accuracy, the bright and over the top dresses fit with the ✨aesthetic✨ of the show.
HOWEVER, what I can not live with is the gross misrepresentation of corsets and the lack of bonnets!
Especially the first tight lacing scene is, while not surprising (movies/shows have shown corsets in a bad light for a long time now), so infuriating and unnecessary. Why would someone tightlace a corset if they then wear a loose dress over it???
Also corsets of the time couldn’t even be tightlaced. There was no boning and woman mostly wore stays (more like a half corset).
just a small correction, stays were about the same lengths as corsets and were just their predecessors. they were wearing what we call transitional stays which were the shortened versions of stays
Yes!!! You'd think there is a law that forces any historial media depict a tightlacing scene, who cares about accuracy? Or logic?
@Charisma Girl why do you 'loathe Shonda Rhimes'?
I agree with all of this. I also made a face at the dresses with the empire waistline cutting right ACROSS the boobs instead of under them. It cuts the breast in half , creating a look of 4 breasts. and no period of history had that style. It would be very uncomfortable and ugly too. If they want a waistline at that spot then you'd squish the breast upward to be above the seam.
@Charisma Girl Yes I totally agree with you if buying 'off the rack'. I'm 36G and the struggle is real. But for this time period all clothing was custom made and there's just no excuse for it. Also the principal actors costumes were all made specifically for this production, not rented from a costume house which is common for extras.
The corsetry in the first scene is so inaccurate. Ladies at the time would not be tightlacing like that because the waist would not be visible. Also, I don’t understand why she’s wearing her corset on bare skin.
even if "it's not supposed to be historically accurate" it just doesn't make any sense, i hate how period drama always stereotyping corsets
@@avonlies9482 Even if they wanted to have her tightlaced, just put her in chemise, a shift whatever you wish to call it. Hell, put a modern camisole underneath just SOMETHING.
I never thought of the show of ever intending to be historically accurate. The diversity of the cast and costumes...I always thought it was meant to be a love story and exploration of characters with the colours, costumes and setting of England used just for aesthetics and background? It feels very theatrical to me. I don’t think the creators intended to be historically accurate...I mean, just look at the casting 🤷♀️ I like it.
I have never seen so many people get pressed over bonnets and corsets.
"I don’t think the creators intended to be historically accurate" Thank heavens!
This one!!!
In a way, in Bridgerton the black duke is cultural appropriation, for at that time there were no black dukes conquering young women of English high society. But apparently it is only cultural appropriation when a white person does something non-white, when a non-white person does it, it is inclusion, however fictional it may be.
LOL
@@jzz6342 shut up colonizer
You should watch Reign. I was like “ooo these costumes are pretty” and then I was like “but they make NO DAMN SENSE”
I wanted to hate it, but she was wearing Valentino, Oscar de la Renta and Alexander McQueen so I forgave them
I love them!! Like even watching as a dumb teen I could just tell they are not historically accurate, but they are not meant to be, her first wedding gown is still ingrained into my head it’s so dreamy
Yesss the dress in reign are gorgeous
I have seen a photo of some actresses from this show randomly and i was like "nice they look like some young gals who are about to go to prom in those fancy sparkly dresses" but no, they are supposed to be 16th century aristocrats wtf 🤢
I think you should do a collab with Karolina Żebrowska, Mina Le, or Bernadette Banner for historical fashion since they know a lot about the topic
I second this!
Yesssss
Got my vote!
The QUEENS!!!
I'll add Nicole Rudolph to that list. Her channel is impressive for the historical analysis and the sewing she does, not to mention making period shoes!
One of the details I love about Marina’s clothing is her necklace which is a lover’s eye. It’s basically a necklace with a illustration of the eye of your lover. A lot of lovers in secret would wear these, which totally fits with Marina’s storyline.
i legit am having bridgeton withdrawals i watched it too fast
I have watched back to back. The second time was even better, I picked up a lot that I missed the first time.
I had forgotten that I had read the book series years ago - it's worth checking out if you don't mind being spoiled for potential future seasons!
@@surpriseitscaz thank you! i want to buy the books but its so hard to get on amazon loll
Say it louder sis💀
Omg same
I’m so upset they’re still doing these tired old corset scenes where they’re tight-lacing them up as if that was normal 🙄
I had a boned wedding dress and honestly it was amazing. Like a vacation for my shoulders. I wIsh corsets would come back - boobs are heavy :(
all i could concentrate on was daphne’s bangs WHY TF WERE THEY SO SHORT
I have a feeling that was the fashion at the time
RIGHT
@@rachelkimpanga8043 it wasn't, take a look at regency hair, they weren't even trying.
The bangs scared me
@@aspannas short fringes were quite popular in the regency periods but they would’ve ALWAYS been curled 😭
The corset part is bullshit :) you should have a look at Bernadette Banner's channel for insights
Cool stuff otherwise tho
The only major pet peeve I had about the costumes was the inaccuracy in the corsetry. Yes corsets could be painful and restrictive in the eras either side of Regency, but the column-style dresses didn't require a synched waist and the actual corsets worn were not often boned and were mostly for support. There is a scene where it shows cuts on a character's back from her tight corset, which would never happen. Women always wore a chemise under the corset but modern Hollywood doesn't seem to think that chemises are 'sexy'.
That's another thing that baffles me about Hollywood and corsets, they're seen as super sexy in some cases but awful in others, I think they are used in scenes like in the first episode for a nod to feminism, which can be done in much more effective and historically accurate ways.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
P.S. I do really love Bridgerton, though.
The show is like a mix of pride and prejudice meets gossip girl
I've heard it said that the culture is waaayyyy off and that British folk do not/did not act or think this way. That the show is more like Americans pretend playing that they're living in the Regency era, which.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I loved Eloise's coming out dress, it was gorgeous. Even though there was a lot of yellow, Penelope gowns were so cute especially the embroidery on them.
the first scene being the tightlacing of STAYS literally there me off so bad i couldn't focus on anything else after that
(for those who don't know its not even possible to tightlace stays)
I actually had to turn it off at that point and take a break before watching more...
Do you think they were trying to copy a scene from ‘Gone with the Wind’ to please our American friends?
@@Laura55sere i mean the corset pulling beauty is pain scene is an unfortunate staple in almost every movie featuring a love interest who wears corsets but my brain had a very visceral reaction to it being done on a stay when i know for a fact that its physically not possible
Please do Queens Gambit next! I love how Beth's fashion sense evolved through the episodes
Omg yes!!
Just fyi at 11:06 when you're talking about Mrs. Bridgerton you show a picture of Mrs. Featherington
Being a follower of the book serie myself I can say I don't mind at all the artistic licenses they took in both the costumes and the black representation. It actually fits well, it doesn't feel forced and it makes the story lighter and more enjoyable. Maybe Disney can learn a thing or two from this.
I haven’t read the books but I really enjoy this approach to inclusion in historical dramas. You can see that Shonda Rhimes learned her lesson from the ill-fated travesty that was Star Crossed (?), no one wants color blind casting where mom is black, dad is white, so the son is logically Asian (it seems like such a small gripe but it means a lot). If you’re gonna add people of color just do it naturally, Simon is mixed-race but his boxing friend has a black wife, and logically a black child. I just wish Disney would learn from Bridgerton’s casting and recast the live-action Little Mermaid, King Triton to be specific.
I still have issue with the casting, I wish they'd done it like the Brandy version of Cinderrella
I think it’s fun people mentioning Brandy’s cinderella because Bridgerton has the same costume designer lol
@Charisma Girl girl ur so pressed for what? just say ur racist and go like why are u so bothered that there were poc in the show? can poc never have a thing? the show isnt supposed to be historically accurate thats obvious, i absolutely loved the different races in the show and finally having some representation of different races without it being about just that, their race.
@Charisma Girl - Queen Charlotte was in fact a woman of colour. And there were many black people in England at that time, not all of whom were slaves. And some of them were probably rich too.
If you look at everything through the lens of white history, then of course you won't see black or mixed people as anything but slaves.
Queen Charlotte actually did wear the fashionable empire-line dresses. Idk why everyone seems to think she didn't because we still have some of these dresses today.
I adore seeing everyone's take on Bridgeton, this is the third clothing review I've watched and so far all the videos have been so unique in the information given! Love this!!
Y’all heard the music played during the balls and expected it to be historically accurate???
Dude, we all know it wasn't going to be 100% historically accurate, take a good look at Marie Antoinette (hello? I Want Candy is in the damn soundtrack) - a fine example taking liberties with the fashion of the era without taking you out of it, another would be Anna Karenina - a hecka lot of inaccuracies but the costumes didn't look too out of place with each other. Sure, we can nitpick about the fabrics and patterns used, or the hairstyles, but could the showrunners do the very least in not fucking up with the stays and give us some cohesiveness to the overall aesthetic and silhouette of the costumes?
@@ihateindices chill out...its a tv show. For the average person that doesn't know about the historical period the clothing choices are not fucked up. Plus its a fictional show that is not focused on historical accuracy... I thought it was aesthetically pleasing
@@alichiahouse7050 i loved it. Listening to it then being like wait I know this song?! Lol
@@alichiahouse7050 lmao. as how I’m alright with you lot enjoying the series, at least understand where those who are outraged by the lack of consistency and accuracy are coming from. I’m not asking you to shit on it but you’d be better off knowing what’s wrong with it while still liking it as opposed to being ignorant, no?
@@alichiahouse7050 I think that's the thing. 95% of the "inaccuracies" I really enjoyed. But ceratin things did not seem in world consistent and did not look aesthetically pleasing. Particularly in a historical fantasy that failure in the fashion aspect of world building can alienate an audience. Yes, every era has aspects or trends of very bad fashion. But the bad fashion did not look in-world. It just looked like the costume designer made a mistake.
Everyone loves Lady Featherington's ostrich night robe. It's the opposite of historical accuracy, but it looks good and consistent with the character. But Lady Featherington's cinched waist, makes absolutely no sense in-world and just looks bad. It looks like a production mistake and jumps out.
WHO WANTS LUKE TO DO MOIRA ROSE FROM SCHITT’S CREEK NEXT? 🤩
7:05 this looks like it was shot in Bath. Bath was a city at the centre of fashion at the time. They tried to imitate the ancient Greeks and Romans with neoclassical architecture. Hence the clothing style to match. The fashion museum in Bath is a must see for anyone who's visiting the UK and interested in fashion.
From Bath can confirm that’s Bath 🥰 thanks for plugging my city haha
I was an au pair in Bath about 15 years ago and the fashion museum was one of my favourite places.. :-)
Thank you for this recommendation.
all of my favorite fashion youtubers are doing videos on bridgerton and im absolutely *living* for it
The Prussian Prince is wearing a Prussian blue Jacket.
when he showed the first picture of the show....I was deeply disappointed and hurt to see her first of all not wearing a shift under the corset and second of all this scene existing at all because tight-lacing was unpopular. but modern society just HAS to show corsets as a method of female oppression, which they aren’t!!!
They absolutely were a sign of female oppression, why do you think women couldn't wait to get rid of them? There were even corsets for pregnant women.
@@djlivvy46 PLEASE educate yourself on corsets, I beg you, watch Karolina Zebrowska or Bernadette Banner. Do you even know the PURPOSE of a corset????
@@aspannas - if corsets are so amazing, why have women not reclaimed them en masse?
@@djlivvy46 When did say corsets are "so amazing"? Where did you get that from? You are choosing to be ignorant, that's your problem not mine. I recommended you to go educate yourself, go watch the two youtubers I mentioned that are actually educated in fashion history.
Such a stupid response, you could have just educated yourself.
The picture mixup from 11:06 to 11:22 was so confusing for a second lol
I've never been this early in my life 😂
welcome to the early gang!!
same hahaha
I HATE those costumes personally. Historical inaccuracies and how weird they tried to convey embroidery really did it for me
I loved Mina le's video about the costumes it was really interesting, I'm glad you did a video on it too!
The thing that really annoys me about the costumes is that none of them fit properly! Every dress pretended to have an empire waist, but the waist was cut on top of the underboob. Netflix spent so much money on the costumes, but the designer just made 100 almost identical ill-fitting dresses for Daphne and the rest of the cast. They could have made half that amount and at least made them to fit the actors.
Also, no corset would have been worn. Instead, they would have had the chill, non-conforming, and comfortable stays.
Regency corsets didn't look like that. there was no reason to have a tight corset on with an empire waistline. ALSO, Corsets were not tight laced like movies would have you believe and this show did not put their actresses in a shift, which historically would be a MUST. They would NEVER wear a corset against their skin.
I mean... the costumes aren't the only thing that doesn't make sense...
@DelmezaRane it's one thing to show the few black aristocrats who existed during that time, it's another to do it 50/50 and to take people who we know were white and to replace them with black people. I, too, wish that in tv shows about the french revolution for example they would show the few black men involved, but they were exceptions.
Also race mixing was maybe tolerated when it came to white men with black women, but not so much with the opposite. This show made of fool of itself really.
@Charisma Girl I'm all for a better representation of black people in tv shows, but I am against historic inacuracy. The queen wasn't black for god's sake. It makes me think of when they gave ugg boots to the girls of "little women" lol 😂
@@qsa59 See, your first problem was walking into a historical fantasy and expecting reality. If you can't distinguish between the two, then that's on you.
@@qsa59 This book is historical fantasy. If they want the queen to be biracial, the queen can be biracial.
@@ellax325 so putting black people as queens and kings is part of the fantasy genre now, wow
Hey Luke, I enjoy your videos a lot. Could you maybe do the "5th element" movie costumes designed by Mugler or the early "Star wars" costumes? I find your movie costume reviews super interesting.
I love that you covered the fashions in this show, because I just watched Karolina Zebrowska's critique on Bridgerton's costumes a few days ago. 😃
I was fascinated, and amused, to learn about Queen Charlotte's dislike of the Empire style, which resulted in those bizarre Empire waist/hoop skirt mash-ups. Those pictures were a little yikes. 😂
Luke I just read your interview for the greek vogue!! I was shocked to see you on greek media, so happy to see you evolving and conquering 🤍
This is great! I might watch this for the fashion alone. Please do “reign” next. It is NOT historically accurate in any way but there’s some weird fashion I can’t decide if I love or hate. I think you’d have a ball.
Having Billie Eilish played classically in the background in this series doesn't make sense to argue about historical authenticity.
Love the show, but ughhhh I hate when they show tight lacing when it wasn't even a thing yet!!!!
You and the meme mother need to talk about this. Also a few films have done 1700s for elders and 1800s for the younger people. But yeah we as viewers are like yeah whats going on? When is this?
I feel like there should be a vocabulary quiz after this video lol I googled terms like robe a l'anglaise every 3 minutes! Learned so much!!!
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I'm absolutely obsessed with the little butterfly details in Penelope's accessories (and the very giant butterfly on her dress in episode 1).
Seeing as butterflies are used as a symbol for transformation, I think it's a great hint at both her Lady Whistledown alter ego and her future growth on the show. There's even a scene where she's wearing a butterfly necklace and butterfly pin in her hair, and Eloise discusses how much she admires Lady Whistledown because she is not tied down by society. "She is able to fly." It's super clever.
Also Marina is seen wearing a lover's eye necklace. "In 1785, when Maria Anne Fitzherbert opened a love letter from her admirer, Prince George of Wales, she wasn’t expecting to find an eye, gazing intently back at her." Marina's lover's name is George.
For some reason, I didn't think you would react to this show. I'm so excited!!
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NO NO NO NO
For the last damned time stays and corsets did not hurt and were not tight laced. Plus the stays shes wear would not have even been tighted to that extreme seeing as they were only fabric, a busk, and cording. No boning. Just... Can we stop stereotyping corsets.
Okay, but Queen Charlotte’s wigs SLAY!
If you are looking for really stunning and historically accurate Regency era clothing that show off the amazing details and care given to clothes at the time, I recommend you to make a review of the costumes in "Emma"
with Anya Taylor-Joy.
I wanted to see this in theatres sole to get up close looks at the costumes. It was the next film I was going to see and then the lockdown happened. I feel like I would do the film a disservice to watch on my TV. But I will get to it this year.
Please, oh please, oh please, give us a video on the extraordinary regency costumes and art design of the most recent Emma. It so deserves you.
The show was fabulous escapism and given the crappy times I’m living for it 😊💖
Was I only one who thought it was boring as hell 😅
Same lol
I love the fact you talked about head wraps 🥰
*the Duchess isn’t Regency* but it is a guilty pleasure
I'm sick of shows using the excuse that "it's not meant to be historically accurate" as a way to not be creative and just be lazy and rely on clichés and inaccuracies erg
There were PoC in high society, obviously it's not historically accurate🧐
Actually Queen Charlotte was believed to have been mixed race, so that’s actually a part of the series that is accurate 😭
Either way, the series is still perpetuating myths about corsets and clothing
@@danjlp9155 yeah, I was a little disappointed he didn’t call out the tightlacing scene :/
@@joshuaklusewitz1387 I really hate to break it to you, but that claim didn't come about until the 1940's and was based on ONE portrait and ONE comment from some dude that called her ugly. Others who claim she had at least some African heritage, were several generations back. If I remember it right, her supposed black ancestors were alive in the 13th or 14th century which is at least 300 years before Charlotte was born. So she would not have looked even a little bit mixed. If she had actually looked like she had some non-European ancestry there would have been a plethora of caricatures that played it up.
Don't get me wrong, I love that this show is doing historical fantasy that includes people of colour (well, black people and ONE asian in a speaking role), but let's not pretend that they're being even remotely accurate. They took a recent myth about a real person and ran with it because it's an intriguing "what if" scenario.
Queen Charlotte was about as black as Anne Boleyn. I'm sorry if I come accross as mean, but I'm genuinely worried that this myth has gained such a foothold when there is absolutely NO historical evidence for it. I feel I have to say it again, had Charlotte been black/mixed, her contemporaries would've talked about it a LOT, and they didn't. They agreed she was not an attractive woman, but there is not a single account of her being described as black or mixed.
@@thecricket8620 i agree that often that claim is exaggerated, especially recently, and the shows’s depiction is not « accurate », it’s entirely possible Queen Charlotte was not entirely Northern European, with having Portuguese ancestry that has disputed claims of being mixed with Moorish and northern African ancestry. I agree that while the show takes liberties with it’s diversity of cast, there were more than one upper class depiction of poc people in portraiture in 18th and 19th century England.
You should do a video on my fair lady and older movies! The fashion in my fair lady is so fun to look at
I would love if u could make fashion house history videos ! Like a video on Alexander McQueen, Dior etc cause I have no idea of the context of most of them and you’re so knowledgeable!! Xx
Corsets weren't supposed to be tight laced in the Regency period..
As a knitter, I just love your top so much. Gorg colour and cable work.💙
I loved this video, it was really considerate and talked about historical costumes but also apreciated the aesthetic value and fantasy that went into the show. After your video I was happy and felt more educated. 10/10
Ok honestly this is the best fashion history check that I have come across. No offense to the experts on the tube but like this super helpful and realistic in explaining the fashion choices.
Love the how you brought up the head wrap and it’s link to African culture especially I’m Nigerian and didn’t even link the two when I saw marina. Shout out to you we Stan!!
I am so your target audience for THIS! I love period pieces, and I LOVED these fantastical, glittered, inspired-by-period pieces. Perhaps oddly, I especially liked the most over-the-top ones worn by the social climbers and Mother Featherington... there's one with pops of lime green... I love love love these should-be-ugly, 1970's couch flower-printed disasters.
Muslin was a actually a very fine and expensive fabric during the regency period as it was still hand spun and hand woven by specialists in India who worked with fibers from a pretty specific plant. It's only "trash fabric" today because british colonialists destroyed the production lines so they could produce muslin more cheaply, and machine weaving is less tightly woven in general
It's on purpose, it's a parallel reality. You can tell from the hair styles too
The book “How to Read a Dress” is very informative and gorgeous. Highly recommended to anyone interested in European gowns from the last 500 years.
Your enthusiasm is infectious. Loved this!
Omg just seen a comment saying it already but PLEASE we need a Moira Rose fashion review from you!!!! ❤️
Thank you for sharing!Hope everybody here becomes successful on UA-cam.
I hope I don’t get crucified for saying this because I do love this channel and your commentary. However, I think the whole “longer videos for channel members” model is flawed and I do think it hurts you in the long run.
1) you already get paid from youtube for views (but that is not a lot of money I get it)
2) you can get sponsors and make money that way (and you have in the past)
3) channels mean that new people won’t be able to see the FULL brilliance of your videos and analysis which is a shame because it’s the content that drives people to like your channel to begin with.
You are constricting your own growth by making this channel dynamic occurs IMO. Either way, you are great and good luck, I’ll keep supporting you in other ways .
And before people say it’s only 1$ or whatever, it’s not about the money, it’s about the fact that having a channel does impact your influence and growth and it does exclude a % of people who would have liked your content had they seen it. And yes people will also say that “he does still upload shorter videos here” but knowing that there are longer videos behind a paywall leaves a bad taste in the mouth nonetheless.
That said, again, I still love your content and your personally and I will continue to support you. I’m just throwing in my 2 cents. No hate please, I’m not here to argue or shade, just wanted to respectfully share my opinion with the hautelamode!
P.s. I do have marketing experience if anyone is thinking that my opinion is uninformed. Hautelamode may have a different strategy in mind with this and if so I just don’t see the point. It complicates things and complications on social media are bad because of the inherent nature of these platforms.
I wish there was a video for the Queens Gambit, the styles on that show!!
It's a Romance novel, a fairytale loosely placed in a real era, that's all. It never pretended to be historically accurate and it does not have to be. It's actually better that they used all these colors and fabrics and even jewelry to highlight specific traits of families and characters and create wonderfull images. Also, they introduced PoC in the era so naturally that I honestly believe is fantastic (it is not the case in the book btw).
The fashion transition of the Regency period that is more important than dresses, that might interest you is the mens tailoring revolution, particularly in British Fashion. Art historians are a good source of paintings which reflect this change, it comes from the French Revolution and a reaction to it and is quite interesting. British tailoring is born here.
I hate how historical shows include a tightlacing scene 99% of the time regardless of time period. Why would anyone do that to themselves when you are going to wear an empire dress??? What's the point?
Will we ever get a show/film that understands wearing a corset does not equal tightlacing??
You didn't even wear stays with a regency gown, you wore a sort of bra thing if you were fashionable. Stays (if worn) would never have been tightlaced because it wasn't possible until the invention of metal eyelets. You would simply have torn through the stays.
Even when tightlacing was possible, it wasn't commonplace. It was reserved exclusively for extremely fashionable, young women. It wasn't socially expected.
@@katfoster845 agreed, and it just requires a bit of logic to see that women wearing a garment that won't let them breathe properly and can lead to fainting is simply not practical.
These women went walking, would rode horses on occasion, they went on social calls and attended balls, how would they do such things without being able to fill their lungs with air?
18 naughties Luke you're killing me I love it (also the tightlacing is random pointless and dumb what is hollywood's obsession with pushing the evil corset narrative)
i legit had nooooooo idea what to call that decade!! i was like if i say 1800s everyone’s gonna think i’m talking about the whole century!!
@@hautelemode I think 18 naughties is perfect 😂👌🏾
I loved this! You did a really good job with the breakdown of styles. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I am new to your channel, this is only like the third video I've watched so just wondering if you've ever reviewed Legally Blonde costume design or if you want to, I would LOVE to see your take on this classic film
Totally off topic, however important: Any chance about you reviewing the fashion choices on RuPaul´s Drag Race S13?
I know this is off subject but Kryzzie “crazy rich Asians closet” did a reaction to your reaction video of her closet. It was fascinating to see her reacting to your reaction. She said you did a good job 👏
Am I the only one that didn’t like this show 😅
I didn’t either
No you aren't. I don't know how to describe it. It just seemed cheap and corny to me. Its hard to explain. I usually love anything like that but I couldnt get through the first episode.
@@laurenbray8314 my sentiments exactly. Just seemed like everyone went to party city then decided to make a period drama based on their Costumes they picked up.
Please do a reaction video on the way we wore with Doris, I really wish you could see the beautiful vintage Halston dress she has! If you did a collaboration video with her it would be so epic!!
This show reminded me of Riverdale. I could not even get past the first 15 min. The acting was horrible. Especially when the queen praised her for literally nothing.
Waistlines went up and became more relaxed during peace time hence the classical, Regency costume. However during times of unrest, hemlines came down and became tighter to give the wearer a sense of security.
11:19 that's Penelope Featherington
But yes, Portia picked out the outfit
She's very controlling of what Penelope gets to wear