I don't know how to say it but thank you thank you brother you have no clue no idea how much you saved my life I'm in tears right now let me just tell you I'm a single father I ain't going to get into everything but I'm in tears right now bro God bless you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
Thank you! I'm so glad I saw your video first! I was getting really worried about the impact my wallet was going to feel for my sudden no start problem. Disconnected the battery, cleaned the terminals really well and did your relay swap... fired up right away, nice and strong! Thank you thank you thank you!
Thank you! My 2012 Titan just hit 103k and i have been having a problem with a dead key from time to time and was dreading changing the starter since it is in a brutal spot to change. I'll try this fix and hope for the best. That little tip of swapping the relays is a lifesaver!
Thank you, Thank you!!! My 2013 Titan has been having this intermittent issue for a long time. And after 3 mechanics and days in the shop NOBODY could figure this out!! Today was the last straw as it sat in the driveway unable to start.... I watched This Video and Success!! My mechanic is getting me a new relay and tightening the box...
This little piece of information has me so greatful, you just got me out of a parking lot I’ve been sitting in for 30 minutes about to call a tow truck, has been giving me issues for about a month, swapped over that little module with the fog light and bam started up! THANK YOU
This will help temporary but you have to buy same relay again from nissan if they are not selling the whole ipdm (, fuse box) ive done it and ignore it but after some time itll fail, then i got 2 from junk yard, changed one and keep one as a spare and everythig working well 👍👍👍
I kept swapping out relays until I finally got tired of a bandaid fix to problem. I finally a new ipdm and solved it permanently. The Titan are known to have problem with the older ipdm. Now my starter needs replacing at 150,000 miles. I don't have skills or tools, but will get it done for cheaper than taking it to dealer.
I had 2005 Armada doing the same thing, I replaced the starter and work fine for several months with no problem. Replacing the starter is not an easy job because it is located in between the top of the engine and the intake manifold. Good luck!
About to try this now we are stuck around the corner from our house but luckily across the street from auto zone wish me luck bought this truck yesterday 😪
I have a 2009 that was having the same issues. I could usually take the positive and negative battery terminal connectors off, and touch them together for a short time to "drain the capacitors" .. as the local Nissan dealer said. I recently swapped out the IPDM with the newest black one, and then let it sit for the week (its not my daily driver), had the exact same problem when I tried to start it. The new IPDM e/r had all new fuses in it, so that can't be the issue. This has been going on since it was under warranty. Noone has been able to fix it.
Another thing to do if it has issues with starting, replace the key. The chip inside gets damaged if you drop it too often. If the plastic key breaks, that's a sure sign of damage. A locksmith through AAAnshould charge $120 for one key or $180 for two. If you've tried the fusible links, the ground wire, and the filter/pump and it still isn't starting GET A NEW KEY
that happened to me today. My truck suddenly stopped in the middle of me driving it. Then it started again after a few attempts and all my dash lights started flickering. The forums for Titans helped me solve my problem. I went to Nissan and bought the ECM relay replacement fuse. In my case it was colored green and second from left relay. Come to find out that a while back there was a recall and ECM relay is the common culprit of said symptoms. Took me 5 minutes to install and solved my problem at least for now.
Currently experiencing similar symptoms on a 2004 titan. I've replaced some relays but continue to have problems starting. I checked your starter replacement video as well but im wondering what made you decide to replace the starter? Sometimes if I fiddle with the steering wheel or jiggle some wires under the steering wheel I can get it to start. I'm thinking it may be a wiring issue as I've already resoldered some cold solder joints in the odometer panel but I guess it could also be the starter. Just wondering if there's any thing I can do to verify my starter needs replacing. Thanks for your videos, very helpful!
I began to have some more starting issues several months after I changed the relay so I figured it was the starter selenoid and I was right. No more starting issues.
I wish I had seen this video earlier... took it into the shop after trying to figure out for a couple hours why it wouldn't start. The shop ended up changing the whole board for $290 plus labor.
If you have that issue again try replacing the fuel pump relay which is on the bottom row of relays on the IPDM. I think it's the 3rd from the left. Being a former nissan tech in Alaska that was the most common issue with no starts on those and the first thing we looked at. Most of the time that is what the problem turned out to be so much that they issued a recall for it.
Hi, Fredeick, I wonder if you can help is, We own a titan 2004, It starts and a few seconds later it turns off, we have changed the fuel pump, one filter, and another few thanks, and it does the same. I really apreciate the help, thanks
It could be a number of things. First off is the security key on when you turn the key to the on position? if so then that is your problem. if not try replacing the fuel pump relay. Cheap enough to go ahead with. If that isn't it then you have a spare cause it will go out one day. Next is check fuel pressure when turning key on. You should get somewhere in the ball park of 45 psi to 55 psi. if not then fuel pump (I know you replaced it already but I have seen them bad out of the box.) or something in line to the port. If you have pressure start it and see what the pressure is while it runs. If pressure drops off then dies probably your pump or could be something with security issue or ECM (Unlikely but possible.) Other than that I would have to see it for myself. I suck at diagnosing other than in person.
Do you have a email where I can talk to you, Im in Arizona, Im not sure where are you, but we already take it to the shop buy they said they dont find anything. and they tols us to take to Nissan dealer, but we think they are expensive, Im so glad you answer me. Could I have your email to talk to you, please and thanks very much.
Before you changed the relay.... what was the symptom you were getting? Would it start randomly or not at all? I have a 2005 and it starts most of the time. About 2-3 times a week it will not start on the first try.... but will then start normally on 2nd or 3rd try.
Hello n thanks for the informative and helpful video. I have a 2005 Titan and for the last 6 mos to a year I've had an occurrence where once in a great while I will turn the key to start my truck n I either get nothing or I get a very low pitched and rather quiet Ding sound.... However on the 2nd try my truck starts right up. What was once only occurring once in a while is starting to happen more and more often. Is it possible that I may possibly have the same easy fix solution that you had with your truck??
Parts guy also said that those white ipdm boards are shity and the replacement is a black one which is amazing in comparison to the old white ones. But again it would cost $500 for my particular Titan
Well the relay you replaced is not the one you think it is. The one that goes out causing the issue is the ECM relay and it’s the second one not the first one and this was only on the models with the white IPDM the later ones had the black IPDM. There was a recall on those at one time. Also per service manual the relays were not supposed to be removed and replaced as they said damage can happen to the terminals but it didn’t stop them from being replaced under the warranty for the recall. That keeps their parts cost down
I have an 08 Nissan Titan pro 4x. I just replaced the starter. It turns on, but sometimes it has trouble. Will keep cranking but won’t turn on. I’ll have to keep trying for a few mins and eventually it turns over. I’m was suggested by a friend to replace the fuel pump.
I did exactly shown on video and my truck started up with no problems. I should have a closer look. Because i swapped the two and truck started and fog lights still work.. thanks
Well sir, I'm gonna try that my titan 04, has just started the issue of not cranking over here and there especially in cold weather we just had here eastern US. I hope this corrects the problem. I really if I don't have too change the starter. But if I do I must.
Thank you for this video... My relay on my 2004 Titan at the spot you have your starter relay is part #ACM33201 M12 (it doesn't match yours). Is my relay the same relay you have there? Or is my fuse in the location you are saying to change for the starter actually for something else?
acm33201 is what i pulled in that first slot on my 06 titan . i went to nissan dealer they gave me a cw29e relay saying that's what I needed. I replaced it, at first it took a,while to start like it didn't register. But ever since then it has started perfect. So idk so far so good
In my situation, I needed to change out the starter because it was bad, replaced the starter and no more starting issues. Also, the IPDM on the truck is causing issues as well. The truck starts but while driving, every once in a while, not all the time, the engine wants to die/ feels like the fuel pump is not keeping up but after reading and looking up this issue on the internet/ speaking to a friend of mine who is a Nisan Technician, he stated it might be my IPDM acting up and NOT the fuel pump.
Amuro I replaced my IPMD about 5 to 6 years ago. I was having the same issues you are currently having in regards to driving and then having absolutely no power at any given time. Did some research On club Armada and it pointed me to the IP empty. I swapped it out myself for $175 for a new IPMD. I haven’t had an issue since
Jamey Mendez I think I’m gonna go with the IPDM, I also replaced the ECM relay because of a recall I found, cost $3 bucks but that didn’t do shit. The truck is drivable but if you gas it hard, it acts up. If you go easy on the gas peddle it drives okay. Just strange but I’ll be ordering a new IPDM module soon. Thanks!
Hello, I don't get this at all because to me you just swapped out the starter relay with the ignition relay. I have swapped out my ECM relay with my Foglamp relay and both of those relays are at the bottom of the IPDM as you look at it. ECM would be the third one from right and the fog is the first one from right as you look at the ipdm as shown in your video. I own a 2005 titan LE but again I don't understand how your fog lamp relay is at the top row? You have the right part number for the relay but thats for the ecm relay not the starter? The original starter relay has a number 6 on it and "acm33221 M28". What model of armada do you have and can you tell me what the 4 relays at the bottom of the ipdm do for your model? I love the fix but something had to be different on your vehicle.
Thanks for the video😊I ordered the relay with the number you said but when I went to replace it mine had a #4 on it not the w so I assume it’s different? I ordered it from Nissan Also I noticed you have a starter video, did you still have problems after the relay replacement or did you replace the starter first the find out it was the fuse? Thank you for your videos 👍🏾
About 3 months after I replaced the relay, the selenoid on the starter started going bad. The relay is a cheap fix. The starter was a lot more expensive!
Swapping the 'front fog light relay' for the 'ECU relay' is a TEMPORARY FIX as the 'front fog light relay' is lacking a protective diode found in the ECU relay (Nissan p/n 284B7-CW29E). I did the swap in my 2005 Titan tonight which wouldn't start and it started immediately after the swap, confirming the ECU relay is at issue. (Interestingly, the front fog lights did work with the failed/weak ECU relay). I will be buying a Nissan OEM ECU relay and inserting it into the ECU relay receptacle and returning the 'Front fog light relay' back to its original position. Many recommend carrying a spare ECU relay. It looks like Nissan has authorized a recall on the ECU relay but it may be more of a hassle having a dealer change the relay and potentially damaging the expensive IPDM unit if the mechanic rough houses the change-out of relays.
My '08 Titan has a black relay box with less relay slots. I've seen a diagram that pints to the ignition relay but I don't know which one is the starter relay. 🙁
Nice video. Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately my 05 titan is "clicking" which, from what I understand, means I have a different issue which likely involves having to remove the intake manifold to get to the starter and solenoid. 😩
I just had that happen to me. I hope to post a video soon of the procedure and what tools you will need. It was not as bad as I thought it would be. 3.5 hours start to finish, including set up and making the video with retakes. I feel that after having done it once, I could possibly get bit done in @ 1 hour. The average Joe with some auto mechanic skills, could probably get it done in around 2-2.5 hours for a first timer (without making a video).
Worked but I swapped 1st with 3rd relay. 2005 titan diagram said 1st is starter and 3rd "isn't used". From the left and top row. The row with 5 relays.
Hey where do you find that specific part?? I can’t find it on the autozone website or any auto store near me , is this something that needs to be ordered like on Nissan website or any other car part website
So think I have this problem. I have a 2010 Armada. Is fuse compartment same spot in my car? Car won’t start and battery is reflecting as having plenty of charge. After a few turns it starts finally. Which fuse part # do I get? And replace fuse #4 from left to right?
Thanks so much for posting vid! seems alot of ppl hv this problem. . .Regarding your reply to @Lane Davis, Is This video corrected now? I don't see any notes about correct location of relays.. thanks again
I did this to rectify a stalling issue. I first tried the auto active test to determine an ipdm issue, and the test wouldn't run. After swapping the relays, the test ran through. My issue is that I'm in the boonies, and the part store is an hour away. How safe is it to drive that far with the fog relay in the ecm slot?
Sir, I have Armada 2012 and I have the same problem, but the relay box is different from yours and I couldn’t know which relay to replace if you can help please
do you have a rust problem on your truck. Today i saw a Nissan NV2500 high top with less than 5 years usage but with a lot of rust on the front of the top. No effort was done to hide this, perhaps the owner was wanting to do negative publicity. With all the known problems for the Titan engine, if you add the choice to buy it again, would you buy it again or buy something else one of your friend was very happy with
Well, after 11 years the paint has started to wear off of my truck. I intend to paint it. I have not had any of the "known" problems with my 5.6 engine. Back in '05 I asked a local mechanic what was the best truck to buy and he replied "Ford, Chevy and Dodge all have their inherent problems". He never mentioned brand x, y or z. So to answer your question is "Yes" I would buy Nissan again. If I were you, I would go to a dealership and talk to one of the mechanics (not the manager) and ask what kinds of repairs/cost he sees on said vehicle(s)to get an idea of what you are looking at.
My Nissan Titan starts most of the time but sometimes it doesn’t crank until a few attempts. Auto shop checked battery, starter and alternator and they were all fine. They couldn’t find the issue. I wonder is this it????
I don't know how to say it but thank you thank you brother you have no clue no idea how much you saved my life I'm in tears right now let me just tell you I'm a single father I ain't going to get into everything but I'm in tears right now bro God bless you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
You're very welcome. I'm glad it helped.
thank you sir my buddy was stranded and I was able to find this video and give him instructions over the phone...it worked thank you so much.
just to clarify he switched the second relay from the left with the one on the far right.
Thanks for letting me know!
Thank you! I'm so glad I saw your video first! I was getting really worried about the impact my wallet was going to feel for my sudden no start problem. Disconnected the battery, cleaned the terminals really well and did your relay swap... fired up right away, nice and strong! Thank you thank you thank you!
Thank you! My 2012 Titan just hit 103k and i have been having a problem with a dead key from time to time and was dreading changing the starter since it is in a brutal spot to change. I'll try this fix and hope for the best. That little tip of swapping the relays is a lifesaver!
Did changing out the relay fix your problem mine is doing the samething 255000 miles 05
@@erickinsey4381 How/Did you resolve your issue? I’m in the same predicament.
Id like to know as well dead key is plaguing me
According to the diagram that I have, you just replaced the starter relay with the ignition relay. The fog lamp relay is bottom right.
Thank you, Thank you!!! My 2013 Titan has been having this intermittent issue for a long time. And after 3 mechanics and days in the shop NOBODY could figure this out!! Today was the last straw as it sat in the driveway unable to start.... I watched This Video and Success!! My mechanic is getting me a new relay and tightening the box...
My 2013 Titan is doing the same thing I’ll order the fuel pump relays is there two ? anyways first thing
This little piece of information has me so greatful, you just got me out of a parking lot I’ve been sitting in for 30 minutes about to call a tow truck, has been giving me issues for about a month, swapped over that little module with the fog light and bam started up!
THANK YOU
Thank you a bundle, purchased two from the dealer five dollars each. Thank you Merry Christmas. You saved mine. 1 million likes.
This will help temporary but you have to buy same relay again from nissan if they are not selling the whole ipdm (, fuse box) ive done it and ignore it but after some time itll fail, then i got 2 from junk yard, changed one and keep one as a spare and everythig working well 👍👍👍
I kept swapping out relays until I finally got tired of a bandaid fix to problem. I finally a new ipdm and solved it permanently. The Titan are known to have problem with the older ipdm. Now my starter needs replacing at 150,000 miles. I don't have skills or tools, but will get it done for cheaper than taking it to dealer.
What model IPDM did you end up buying? The black version?
sir you have just save over $800 bucks. I thank you for taking your time on sharing this with us.
"$800 bucks" - Eight hundred dollars bucks
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Daryl Lect it means im laughing
I had 2005 Armada doing the same thing, I replaced the starter and work fine for several months with no problem.
Replacing the starter is not an easy job because it is located in between the top of the engine and the intake manifold.
Good luck!
Thank you so much. Mine is green and I was about to replace my starter. You saved me! Mine was $20 and I got the last one
Do you have a nissan armada?
Thanx for responding. Vids helped and I'm back in action.
Thank you!!! This video get me home last night
U just saved me a tow! Thank you!
Nice repair...way more appealing that a tow to the dealer!
+boat6868 Thanks and agreed!
Thanks for the help also check dealer for recalls too
Thank you. I tried it and it started right up.
I was about to replace the starter great video, heck I can do that.
thanks for the trick, you are amazing, greetings from Mexico
About to try this now we are stuck around the corner from our house but luckily across the street from auto zone wish me luck bought this truck yesterday 😪
Did it work
Wow, thx! We were about to just replace the alternator assuming that’s the problem but I’ll try this first!
You need a better technician
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Thank you Sir!you save alot of money!😀
I have a 2009 that was having the same issues. I could usually take the positive and negative battery terminal connectors off, and touch them together for a short time to "drain the capacitors" .. as the local Nissan dealer said.
I recently swapped out the IPDM with the newest black one, and then let it sit for the week (its not my daily driver), had the exact same problem when I tried to start it. The new IPDM e/r had all new fuses in it, so that can't be the issue.
This has been going on since it was under warranty. Noone has been able to fix it.
It's the starter
Another thing to do if it has issues with starting, replace the key. The chip inside gets damaged if you drop it too often. If the plastic key breaks, that's a sure sign of damage.
A locksmith through AAAnshould charge $120 for one key or $180 for two.
If you've tried the fusible links, the ground wire, and the filter/pump and it still isn't starting GET A NEW KEY
gracias muy buen vídeo me ahorraste mucho tiempo y dinero thank you thank you
I did this and it worked. It happened 1 time about 4 days later.
I would check your starter selenoid.
Sir I love you, you just got me outta of a pickle.
that happened to me today. My truck suddenly stopped in the middle of me driving it. Then it started again after a few attempts and all my dash lights started flickering. The forums for Titans helped me solve my problem. I went to Nissan and bought the ECM relay replacement fuse. In my case it was colored green and second from left relay. Come to find out that a while back there was a recall and ECM relay is the common culprit of said symptoms. Took me 5 minutes to install and solved my problem at least for now.
What model is your truck?
Currently experiencing similar symptoms on a 2004 titan. I've replaced some relays but continue to have problems starting. I checked your starter replacement video as well but im wondering what made you decide to replace the starter? Sometimes if I fiddle with the steering wheel or jiggle some wires under the steering wheel I can get it to start. I'm thinking it may be a wiring issue as I've already resoldered some cold solder joints in the odometer panel but I guess it could also be the starter. Just wondering if there's any thing I can do to verify my starter needs replacing. Thanks for your videos, very helpful!
Also, when i turn the key i get a ping if that helps.
I began to have some more starting issues several months after I changed the relay so I figured it was the starter selenoid and I was right. No more starting issues.
I wish I had seen this video earlier... took it into the shop after trying to figure out for a couple hours why it wouldn't start. The shop ended up changing the whole board for $290 plus labor.
I replaced the ipdm & the starter on mine. Ran great for about 2 days, then the same issue & now I’m stuck. What could it be?
Thank you so much ! Going to give it a try !
If you have that issue again try replacing the fuel pump relay which is on the bottom row of relays on the IPDM. I think it's the 3rd from the left. Being a former nissan tech in Alaska that was the most common issue with no starts on those and the first thing we looked at. Most of the time that is what the problem turned out to be so much that they issued a recall for it.
+Fredrick Smith Thanks you for your input.
Hi, Fredeick, I wonder if you can help is, We own a titan 2004, It starts and a few seconds later it turns off, we have changed the fuel pump, one filter, and another few thanks, and it does the same. I really apreciate the help, thanks
It could be a number of things. First off is the security key on when you turn the key to the on position? if so then that is your problem. if not try replacing the fuel pump relay. Cheap enough to go ahead with. If
that isn't it then you have a spare cause it will go out one day. Next is check fuel pressure when turning key on. You should get somewhere in the ball park of 45 psi to 55 psi. if not then fuel pump (I know you replaced it already but I have seen them bad out of the box.) or something in line to the port. If you have pressure start it and see what the pressure is while it runs. If pressure drops off then dies probably your pump or could be something with security issue or ECM (Unlikely but possible.) Other than that I would have to see it for myself. I suck at diagnosing other than in person.
Do you have a email where I can talk to you, Im in Arizona, Im not sure where are you, but we already take it to the shop buy they said they dont find anything. and they tols us to take to Nissan dealer, but we think they are expensive, Im so glad you answer me. Could I have your email to talk to you, please and thanks very much.
Just to clarify ..... the bottom row of relays starting from the left are as follows: 1. Rear Window Defogger, 2. ECM, 3. Headlamp Low, 4. Fog Lights.
Before you changed the relay.... what was the symptom you were getting? Would it start randomly or not at all?
I have a 2005 and it starts most of the time. About 2-3 times a week it will not start on the first try.... but will then start normally on 2nd or 3rd try.
Did you ever figure out what is was???
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Thank you very helpful
Hello n thanks for the informative and helpful video. I have a 2005 Titan and for the last 6 mos to a year I've had an occurrence where once in a great while I will turn the key to start my truck n I either get nothing or I get a very low pitched and rather quiet Ding sound.... However on the 2nd try my truck starts right up. What was once only occurring once in a while is starting to happen more and more often. Is it possible that I may possibly have the same easy fix solution that you had with your truck??
Hey califitness, what ultimately was your solution? Did you need a new starter for your Titan?
Great video. Thanks
Parts guy also said that those white ipdm boards are shity and the replacement is a black one which is amazing in comparison to the old white ones. But again it would cost $500 for my particular Titan
Thanks a million sir my respects you save me some money 💴
Good job, good info. Now blow off the HVAC air intake screen to avoid breathing in allergens...leaves a PLENTY.
Thank you!
Well the relay you replaced is not the one you think it is. The one that goes out causing the issue is the ECM relay and it’s the second one not the first one and this was only on the models with the white IPDM the later ones had the black IPDM. There was a recall on those at one time. Also per service manual the relays were not supposed to be removed and replaced as they said damage can happen to the terminals but it didn’t stop them from being replaced under the warranty for the recall. That keeps their parts cost down
I have an 08 Nissan Titan pro 4x. I just replaced the starter. It turns on, but sometimes it has trouble. Will keep cranking but won’t turn on. I’ll have to keep trying for a few mins and eventually it turns over. I’m was suggested by a friend to replace the fuel pump.
Do you have the relay number that controls steering wheel/drivers seat/dome lights and lift gate ? 2010 QX56
I did exactly shown on video and my truck started up with no problems. I should have a closer look. Because i swapped the two and truck started and fog lights still work.. thanks
Well sir, I'm gonna try that my titan 04, has just started the issue of not cranking over here and there especially in cold weather we just had here eastern US. I hope this corrects the problem. I really if I don't have too change the starter. But if I do I must.
Thank you for this video... My relay on my 2004 Titan at the spot you have your starter relay is part #ACM33201 M12 (it doesn't match yours). Is my relay the same relay you have there? Or is my fuse in the location you are saying to change for the starter actually for something else?
Hes pointing to the wrong relays. They are at the bottom on that panel. Hes pointing to the starter and ignition relay.
acm33201 is what i pulled in that first slot on my 06 titan . i went to nissan dealer they gave me a cw29e relay saying that's what I needed. I replaced it, at first it took a,while to start like it didn't register. But ever since then it has started perfect. So idk so far so good
Im still having problems wer the relays go and numbers i took them of now i dnt know witch one goes where can any one help me please
In my situation, I needed to change out the starter because it was bad, replaced the starter and no more starting issues. Also, the IPDM on the truck is causing issues as well. The truck starts but while driving, every once in a while, not all the time, the engine wants to die/ feels like the fuel pump is not keeping up but after reading and looking up this issue on the internet/ speaking to a friend of mine who is a Nisan Technician, he stated it might be my IPDM acting up and NOT the fuel pump.
Amuro I replaced my IPMD about 5 to 6 years ago. I was having the same issues you are currently having in regards to driving and then having absolutely no power at any given time. Did some research On club Armada and it pointed me to the IP empty. I swapped it out myself for $175 for a new IPMD. I haven’t had an issue since
Jamey Mendez I think I’m gonna go with the IPDM, I also replaced the ECM relay because of a recall I found, cost $3 bucks but that didn’t do shit. The truck is drivable but if you gas it hard, it acts up. If you go easy on the gas peddle it drives okay. Just strange but I’ll be ordering a new IPDM module soon. Thanks!
The fog light relay is not the one you pointed out,that’s ignition relay.
Would this be a cause for a cold no start?
In winter it will crank fine but won't run I've heard it's the ecm or ipdm.
I have the same issue have you figured out the solution?
Hello,
I don't get this at all because to me you just swapped out the starter relay with the ignition relay. I have swapped out my ECM relay with my Foglamp relay and both of those relays are at the bottom of the IPDM as you look at it. ECM would be the third one from right and the fog is the first one from right as you look at the ipdm as shown in your video. I own a 2005 titan LE but again I don't understand how your fog lamp relay is at the top row? You have the right part number for the relay but thats for the ecm relay not the starter? The original starter relay has a number 6 on it and "acm33221 M28". What model of armada do you have and can you tell me what the 4 relays at the bottom of the ipdm do for your model? I love the fix but something had to be different on your vehicle.
All the IPDM diagrams I have found online agree with your statement. Did swapping the ECM/FogLamp relays work for you?
He has a Titan, not Armada
Thankss man u save us me and my dad
Thanks for the video😊I ordered the relay with the number you said but when I went to replace it mine had a #4 on it not the w so I assume it’s different? I ordered it from Nissan
Also I noticed you have a starter video, did you still have problems after the relay replacement or did you replace the starter first the find out it was the fuse?
Thank you for your videos 👍🏾
About 3 months after I replaced the relay, the selenoid on the starter started going bad.
The relay is a cheap fix. The starter was a lot more expensive!
Thanks you really help me with this video😊
The board where sensor plugs into if its white it's the updated version from nissan if its black it's the old version they had problems with
Swapping the 'front fog light relay' for the 'ECU relay' is a TEMPORARY FIX as the 'front fog light relay' is lacking a protective diode found in the ECU relay (Nissan p/n 284B7-CW29E). I did the swap in my 2005 Titan tonight which wouldn't start and it started immediately after the swap, confirming the ECU relay is at issue. (Interestingly, the front fog lights did work with the failed/weak ECU relay). I will be buying a Nissan OEM ECU relay and inserting it into the ECU relay receptacle and returning the 'Front fog light relay' back to its original position. Many recommend carrying a spare ECU relay. It looks like Nissan has authorized a recall on the ECU relay but it may be more of a hassle having a dealer change the relay and potentially damaging the expensive IPDM unit if the mechanic rough houses the change-out of relays.
Thank you for the part number
Thank you so much good bless you 🙏🏼
Is there a link to Amazon or Ebay to get the right relay?
My '08 Titan has a black relay box with less relay slots. I've seen a diagram that pints to the ignition relay but I don't know which one is the starter relay. 🙁
Thank you so much
My Meen damn right change the relay or the whole module save me lot money and time my Meen thank you life saver god bless
Thank you so much this really helped!!!
Lilliana Gonzalez
Nice video. Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately my 05 titan is "clicking" which, from what I understand, means I have a different issue which likely involves having to remove the intake manifold to get to the starter and solenoid. 😩
I just had that happen to me. I hope to post a video soon of the procedure and what tools you will need.
It was not as bad as I thought it would be. 3.5 hours start to finish, including set up and making the video with retakes. I feel that after having done it once, I could possibly get bit done in @ 1 hour. The average Joe with some auto mechanic skills, could probably get it done in around 2-2.5 hours for a first timer (without making a video).
Ok, thanks! I'll keep an eye out for the new video.
Where did you buy replacement relay? Need help ASAP Thanks!
I went to my local Nissan Dealer.
Worked but I swapped 1st with 3rd relay. 2005 titan diagram said 1st is starter and 3rd "isn't used". From the left and top row. The row with 5 relays.
Said it should be replace or they start giving trouble after a hundred thousand miles
OMG THANK YOU
Great job❤
Your the man !!!!
Do I have to lift the idpm to get to the ecu relay at the bottom.
Happy it worked for everyone BUT me 😒
Thank u for da video
so glad we found this video~ we were looking at replacing my starter all together~ This is a HUGE money saver! Thanks for posting!
Hey where do you find that specific part?? I can’t find it on the autozone website or any auto store near me , is this something that needs to be ordered like on Nissan website or any other car part website
So think I have this problem. I have a 2010 Armada. Is fuse compartment same spot in my car? Car won’t start and battery is reflecting as having plenty of charge. After a few turns it starts finally. Which fuse part # do I get? And replace fuse #4 from left to right?
I'm not sure about the positioning of the relay in a 2010. It could also be the selenoid on your starter. ua-cam.com/video/3_ZzIbcNRBM/v-deo.html
is your truck just clicking like you can hear the solenoid engaging but the starter not engaging before you replaced the relay?
No clicking. Just nothing.
What you just described sounds like another problem.
Yeah, mine is doing that clicking stuff, and nothing seems to fix it.
Great Video Sir!! Thank you.
Thank you. 👍
what were your symptoms? starter seems strong but isn't engaging when key is turned. works on 2nd or red try usually.
Symptom was nothing happened when key was turned.
Just recently, same as you described and I replace the starter.
been intermittent. usually acts up on cold days. trying my other key. only seems to happen at cold start. we will see.
Thanks so much for posting vid! seems alot of ppl hv this problem. . .Regarding your reply to @Lane Davis, Is This video corrected now? I don't see any notes about correct location of relays.. thanks again
It is annotated in the vid.
I see no annotation in the video. Unless it doesnt show up on a smartphone. The video shows the wrong relays when I watch it.
I did this to rectify a stalling issue. I first tried the auto active test to determine an ipdm issue, and the test wouldn't run. After swapping the relays, the test ran through. My issue is that I'm in the boonies, and the part store is an hour away. How safe is it to drive that far with the fog relay in the ecm slot?
I myself would chance it.
What relay is this so I can buy a new one? I can’t find what it is
What was the part number for that relay? Thanks for the video
Cw29e
Sir,
I have Armada 2012 and I have the same problem, but the relay box is different from yours and I couldn’t know which relay to replace if you can help please
Did you find solution i have the same year and problem
How long did this relay replacement fix work before you had to replace the actual starter?
About 7-8 months later I started having issues with the selenoid on the starter not engaging everytime.
ua-cam.com/video/3_ZzIbcNRBM/v-deo.html
Thanks for the heads up but how did you get the cover off?
Help, clean the air vent in the end of the hood!
Is it the same on a qx56 boxes are the same going to try in the am
I have a 2011, where is the ac condenser relay?
Thanks!
is this the same as an nissan titan 2006 fuel pump relay?
do you have a rust problem on your truck. Today i saw a Nissan NV2500 high top with less than 5 years usage but with a lot of rust on the front of the top. No effort was done to hide this, perhaps the owner was wanting to do negative publicity. With all the known problems for the Titan engine, if you add the choice to buy it again, would you buy it again or buy something else one of your friend was very happy with
Well, after 11 years the paint has started to wear off of my truck. I intend to paint it.
I have not had any of the "known" problems with my 5.6 engine.
Back in '05 I asked a local mechanic what was the best truck to buy and he replied "Ford, Chevy and Dodge all have their inherent problems". He never mentioned brand x, y or z.
So to answer your question is "Yes" I would buy Nissan again.
If I were you, I would go to a dealership and talk to one of the mechanics (not the manager) and ask what kinds of repairs/cost he sees on said vehicle(s)to get an idea of what you are looking at.
So did you do this after you changed out the starter? I watched your video on how to change the starter first, then this one.
I did this first and then @ 6mo later I changed the starter.
My Nissan Titan starts most of the time but sometimes it doesn’t crank until a few attempts. Auto shop checked battery, starter and alternator and they were all fine. They couldn’t find the issue. I wonder is this it????
I have a 2008 armada and the diagram on the box doesn’t jive with the info. I’m trying to diagnose an intermittent start issue.
Thanks man
Was that the starter relay?