I'd have asked him about Steven Seagal's strong support of Russia's invasion of the Ukraine and then about his very close friendship to Russia's fascist dictator, Vladimir Putin.
If he thinks that Seagal could actually defend himself against a trained fighter - to me it seems all nice and smooth, when there’s no resistance, but most of the techniques would be hard to pull off in sparring/fight
I think Jesse got selected by Mr. Seagal for this interview simply because of Jessie‘s humility and the way he approaches everything with a fresh perspective.
And maybe sensei seagal needed some youtube time and chose mr enkamp for this particular reason, but what i know that as a yiutuber myself i enjoyed jesse's episode with master seagal plus also enjoyed this video made by rockas aswell, keep up the great work guys, osu
@@charlesghannoumlb2959 Just a friendly FYI: In Japanese, the title goes second, after an individual’s surname, so it would be “Seagal Sensei” just like “Daniel San” is Mr. Daniel.
@@MartialArtsJourney Important question though: up to what point is that responsible? No one is perfect, and that applies to being perfectly bad. Meaning that even the most heinous person you can think of probably has a positive side to them.
@@Fernando-ek8jp So true. I once knew a young couple that raped and tortured their own 8 month old baby, ending up in jail. Yet, they could also be friendly, funny and generous, too, so I realized I shouldn't judge them and accept them as they are. After all, I'M not perfect, either.
@@varanid9 The only thing that tells me is that even those capable of incredibly monstruos acts are still people, but I don't think that just abstaining from judgment is the right thing either. Specially in a situation like the one you described, that's absolutely harrowing.
Segal is spends his time and influence legitimizing Dictators. He also has a reputation of molesting and raping his female coworkers and hiting stuntmen even though his contract says not to. I find it pretty hard to look past that... especially when he's known in the industry to be a total asshole.
Thank you very much for telling us good thing about him. By the way, you pronounced "Samurai" sa MYU rai but real Japanese pronunciation would be close to "Sum rye".
You and Rokas are indelible within the Martial Arts community. I feel it goes beyond that. I respect people who are genuine, humble, truly compassionate and empathetic. You and Rokas have that. As human beings we judge, that's what people do. You first do it as a subconcious safety mechanism, more primal. Then you have those who do it to feel more content. Whatever that may be for them, go with the crowd or a self-esteem thing. You and Rokus both give an unbiased view and that goes back to being genuine people. I have seen all types of men and all types of things happen. Fought in Iraq and Afghanistan to another extreme of dealing with addiction and what that brings about. I am in recovery now and living a good life. I have always had martial arts in my life and can accredited my values and moral code to that, even before joining the military. My father was a great teacher and is back at it, which is awesome. If either of you happen to be in the NYC area, both of you are more than welcome to come train with us, teach a class and I would love to show you around up here in North New Jersey. It would be an honor. I will reach out to both of you. In case you see this and would like to take me up on the offer if you find yourself in the states, I live in the northern most part of New Jersey, an hour away from NYC. PeaCe, Love & Afro-Grease!!!🙏🔥
Thanks , Jesse ! I like the way you are talking behind someone whom you met, i.e. Steven Seagal. One should not blame the other whom we have met and experienced the courtesy discussion, especially in the public. I give you my heart. You are the realest martial artist ever. - I have seen a lot but never talked with commentators being the keyboard fighters who have never ever proven their own skills. I do not know if Seagal is a real martial man in the arena; but I believe he is a tough guy in a street fight because of his size and weight. I myself have experienced some accidental street fights. They are much different from a fight on rules, including MMA/UFC having very less rules. For instance, one will never know the poor floor condition (slope with some natural obstacles) can be the unexpected weapon, when fighting. An experienced Muay Thai fighter can be the loser in their street fight.
If Seagal does have a thyroid disorder I can sympathize with the weight issues. I lost half of my thyroid in 2016 (tumor in my neck that had grown into one lobe) and within just a few months I had put on 50lbs. I stabilized at about 70 over my usual weight and have been working on losing it since. 99% of my diet is vegetables and good proteins. The only sugars, carbs, etc. I have are the small amounts find in avocado and other healthy foods. I exercise every single day (weights and/or cardio) and have lost less than 20lbs in 18 months. It's a legit struggle.
Mr Jones in these replies has never seen a sumo wrestler in his life. Nor heard of Mark Hunt. Nor Tai Tuivasa and Derrick Lewis. Nor Daniel Cormier. Seagal is visibly taller than both Jesse and Oliver in those videos, who aren’t short either! The big guy definitely has muscle mass.
It's good to finally see a different perspective of Steven Seagal considering everyone seems only interested in bashing him these days. No one is perfect, but we all have a good side to us.
He was invited to watch his lifestyle like a movie or play. Steven showed him what he wanted to show him and nothing more. This fresh perspective is just the same old Steven trying to manipulate others into thinking hes an amazing person who definitely didn't sexually abuse women or seriously hurt stuntmen during film takes
@@BaronRodney I know he isn't amazing. I also believe few people are completely evil. That said, Seagal doesn't even make my top 10 list of favourite actors so I do not give him much though. I never heard of him sexually abusing women as I have not looked into his life off of cam. I did hear about him injuring stuntmen.
@@BenWork-nf5jh And to be fair he hasn't been charged with anything but only because he left the country before he could stand trial. I don't think there are many truly evil people either but when it comes to seagal, he's just not a good dude
Pretty cool seeing people like you, Jesse and other channels like hard2hurt exploring martial arts exchanging experience and skills with each other stepping across boundaries of styles. Keep it up man it truly is inspiring and educating.
I really enjoy Jesse Enkamps videos and personality. He does great interviews and conducts himself beyond reproach. A great example to martial artists and regular joes. The world needs more of this
There's a lot of good comments here pointing out the flaws in defending Seagal, one that bothers me a lot that I haven't seen is the idea that he just had a hard time pulling his punches with stuntmen. If someone as tough as Gene LeBell is calling you out for beating up on your stunt team, you're doing something wrong. You're making movies, you're not fighting, you're not even training or sparring, safety comes first above all else and if you're abusing your coworkers you're not a professional, you're a bully
@@lao-grotten1101 yeah there's tons of accounts by different people that he pulls this crap. One video of him being gracious for a day to someone he invited to film him doesn't negate all the crap he's pulled for decades
@@lao-grotten1101 Don't forget the multiple allegations of sexual assault, including some involving underage girls. Or the allegations of taking part in sex trafficking...
Excellent content as always, Rokas! You and Jesse are my favourite martial arts UA-camrs. I love how clearly you both communicate your knowledge and lessons, and you are both so humble! Keep up the great work!
"Old" aikido... Daitō-ryū, a real martial art. The joke says that a student of Daitō-ryū asked his sensei: - What's the difference between Daitō-ryū and aikido, Sensei? - If your opponent falls with a smile it's aikido, if he falls screaaming in pain and with a dislocation or a brokken bone, it's Daitō-ryū.
Don't be decieved.. steve is the best at akido, but, he is a narcissist.. and asshole who thinks he whips anyone in the UFC.. in all honesty those boys would hurt him, even in his prime.. akido only works if the opponent doesn't fight back.. now yes i give steven segal all the credit for being an akido master.. because he truly is the best on this planet in that martial art..
I would be really careful with Seagal. You guys are honest and forthright and it is easy to be taken in by a professional conman. Seagal is problematic in a great many ways and I'd hate to see you guys pulled into it. It feels a little propaganda-esque these videos. He's trying to present himself as something he's not. I like Jesse but I definitely had some issues with some things he said about Seagal. That "I don't care what you do with your private life" is understandable but when you are talking about abuse and rape, that's another thing. Traditional jujutsu does go to the ground, just like HEMA with their dagger combatives. Samurai armour is not so heavy it would impede you from getting up off the ground. You can easily run in well fitted samurai armour, hell, you can run in well fitting plate armour. I knew a woman who would run five kms in her plate armour.
About the bjj part I believe his criticism is about pulling guard strategies being a thing instead of "oh shit I have to guard against the top opponent". Even so, my master (he trains people for both pure BJJ and for MMA) would answer that you need to train bjj guard, especially half-guard, if you want to be able to knockout people efficiently when they are guarding against you.
What you also have to be careful with is assuming that whatever a woman says happened must be true. Seagal has never been proven of doing anything that anybody knows of. And there's 2 very recent examples of what happens when the believe women thing goes a bit too far. You have people like Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson suffering because of accusers who can't keep stories straight and are lying all the time.
Agreed. I don't know a lot about Segal so I wouldn't make a judgment on him publicly, but his reputation really precedes him in reliable sources and very consistently. "We are all not perfect" is powerful phrase that teaches a great lesson of humanity, but it's very reckless to throw it around with people you, admittedly, don't know much about outside of your project with him.
Given his experience, I think Jesse is more than qualified to judge whether someone is legit or not, and whether you like it or not, he's come to the opinion that Segal is pretty legit, at least when it comes to techniques etc.
Narcissists are able to stay in character for much longer than a couple of hours. Having met and worked for seagull back in the 90's, I was able to see that he was/is a con man. His arrogance was always present. This young martial artist seems sincere about seagull, but I believe he got conned. My Sensei lived in Japan during the same period of time as when seagull was there. The martial arts community was skeptical, at best, of seagull back then. This young man should do a bit more probing into seagull. seagull is not a good man.
What are you talking about lol, His skills were highly sought after in Japan in the 70s and 80s. He completely revamped Tenshin Dojo and many world class black belts studied with him. Haruo Matsuoka and Larry Reynosa are both world class students of his. Too many Aikido elitists didn't even know how to apply it in real combat, yet all of Seagal's black belts were always well versed in practical application.
@@AztecUnshaven stop shilling your fake martial art and your rapist criminal obsessive liar mob lover narcissistic boyfriend already. You are guilty by association.
@@CptLJS oh I forgot you’re Jesus Christ right?? Hey slowpoke(cuz you’re slow) I’m going to let you in on a little secret: EVERYONE IS EVIL. The WHOLE world is disgusting. Got men dressing like women and being applauded for it. But nobody ever mentions that right? The world is filthy man.
You are right about one thing: narcisists are able to stay in character for more than a couple of hour. I would say they can do it for more than a couple of months.
I watched Jesse's video before I saw this one. Since I follow both channels, I was glad to see the shared collaboration between martial artists. I would agree entirely with Jesse's comments about being interested only in the Martial Artist side of Sensei Segal. Being a life-long martial artist myself, I can appreciate, admire and learn from Sensei Segal's Aikido\Aiki-jitsu\etc. lessons, without necessarily agreeing with any other aspects of his life. Keep up the sharing\collaboration between the different Martial Arts disciplines ... it is a life-long pursuit but well worth it!
Can't help but think Jesse got the wool pulled over his eyes. Seagal is notorious for not having any real sparring or fight footage(or even credible stories) but he's somehow entirely legit?
@@Fastwinstondoom Gladly... 1.) Lyoto Machida and his brother Chinzo (check their youtube channel they talk of this in detail). 2.) "Razor" Rey Garcia. Veteran cop/bodyguard, black belt in Karate, Judo and Renzo Gracie BJJ, golden gloves boxing winner. Stated Seagal "threw him like a rag doll". 3.) Ron Smoorenburg. Dutch kickboxer, veteran stuntman. Stated Seagal had one of the hardest strikes he'd ever seen/felt. 4.) Ricco Rodriguez. Former UFC heavyweight champ. Hall of famer. Trained with Seagal in 2010-2011, stated Seagal "moved like a cat" and that Seagal threw him "around like a little leaf." 5.) Ron Balicki. Veteran stuntman, pioneer NHB MMA fighter, student of Dan Inosanto JKD, and instructor to youtuber Ed from Metrolina Martial Arts. Balicki called Seagal a "true master" of martial arts.
About his thyroid disease it makes a lot of sense. Jet Li has the same and that's why he left the action movies. I remember that Seagal had a time out after his last movie for silver screen, EXIT WOUNDS, and when he returned I saw that something with him changed.
I am a retired Israeli Infantry officer. I have practiced Silat and Krav Maga and combined both in years of training. When I saw the video on Steven Segal and Jesse in Dubai. That was very well done. I am always open to learning new things and new styles and incorporating those with mine. Thank you both.
The good old thyroid problem , heard this all the time when I was a personal trainer . The funny things is there is a thyroid hormone you can take if that's the issue . People overweight will eat healthy around you but then when there by themselves they keep eating..
As a long time fan, I like how light was shed on Mr. Seagal! Although I understand the reasoning behind the slow/safe practicing of aikido techniques in a dojo, I personally feel Mr. Seagal principles of Aikido should be performed in that exact way... straight to the point and not all like how it is nowadays! UA-cam channels Aikidoflow & Azerbaijan Real Aikido Federation kinda shows how it should be!
Thank you very much for posting a video like this. I don't know why I hadn't seen this one before today. You, Jesse and Mr Seagal in a video, I'm happy to see this. Jesse thinks pretty much the same way I always did regarding all of this, and I'm glad that this way to see things as a martial artist was shared with the public. Big big respect, from one martial artist to another, and another, and another. We are one big family, with each our own personal way of doing things in the end. "To me, martial arts is about honestly expressing yourself." - Bruce Lee
I love both Jesse and Rokas and Jesse is super respectful but maan, check out Kelly Lebrok's side or any girls he harassed. And the thousands of lies about his ethnicity and professions. Why lie that he "invented Anderson Silva´s kick'' a front kick? seriously? a basic kick in almost ANY kickboxing art and he´s not even a kickboxer, he´s a grappler for godsake. He has so much of a inflated ego that is very hard to let it pass and give him respect as a martial artist.
Wrong, Seagal has Karate, Kungfu and Judo experience as well. Also, Kelly LeBrock made it very clear in her autobiography that Seagal NEVER physically hurt her.
@@AztecUnshaven might also wanna check out what his first wife said about him and his background, the Japanese aikido dojo owner one that he parasited off and then left alone with their kids without warning to hook up with Kelly LeBrock for the networking benefits among other things.
@@HardHardMaster Lol, because testimony from a bitter ex wife is always reliable right? Seagal earned his head instructor position because his skill was outstanding. Miyako's dad was struggling to keep students, they almost closed down before Seagal stepped in. Seagal turned that Dojo around and saved it. People like Larry Reynosa and Michael Ovitz were there and saw firsthand how Tenshin Dojo was top level with Seagal as head instructor.
@@AztecUnshaven You forgot to mention that during the test for his black belt, the instructor fell asleep during Seagull's demonstration and gave him the belt out of embarrassment. Seagal is nothing more than a fraud in a world filled with them.
Well… I have met stuntmen and stunt coordinators that that have said similar things about Seagal: he hits the stuntmen when he doesn’t need to. For example, when someone gets ‘punched’ in the face for film, it’s the the illusion of getting punched when a fist crosses the sight path of the camera and the target, and the reaction of the person being ‘hit’ is what sells the action - no actual contact is needed. Seagal would actually hit the stunt performer. Yes, on rare occasions, contact is used, and it is done knowingly. However, Seagal would make contact when there was none planned in the choreography. It was never chalked up to be an accident, and the stunt performers were basically told to suck it up or get off the set.
Way you explain it seems like he was just bad at his job (being an actor not a Aikido full speed demonstrator) and that the studio found more value in their high paid star then the regular people who are the stuntmen (the actual real Heroes) so they had to deal with it and say nothing.... Seems more like the studio is the one encouraging the bullying at this point. He was just ignorant of how to do his job.
@@Zerja He broke Connery's wrist because Connery was trying to "tough it out", with certain techniques, even after Seagal warned him that those moves are dangerous.
@@AztecUnshaven Breaking someones wrist because they wont listen to you is beyond negligent. Any trained practitioner can tell when someone new is resisting in a dangerous way, and the correct thing to do is back off and not train that technique until they understand the danger. The wrong thing to do is to hurt/break the person as 'punishment' for not listening.
@@Zerja You're not understanding. Seagal did not do it intentionally. Connery himself said it was his own fault for trying to force through it. There are certain joint locks that cause debilitating pain immediately, there is no time to "back out" of them. If you try to force through them at full speed, it's gonna cause damage.
Such a great conversation and learning opportunity. I honestly wish that Rokas could get a chance to do the same, and perhaps find the answers he's been looking for. A lot of people love to bash Seagal unfairly, but the man is truly complex and can't be painted with a single brush. I envy the opportunity to learn from him.
As someone who looked down on Steven segal, my respect for him has tremendously increased in many levels, from fighting to his speaking, to his beliefs, and attitudes. Really respectable person, much more than many of the other mma people especially the ones who hate him or aikido. He reminds me of Khabib a lot And btw this was a great interview in of itself, as it debunked all the claims made by the haters that Jesse didnt respect Segal’s techniques and was just going along with it. Now the haters are claiming that Jesse was fooled and has had the wool pulled over his eyes. Now they supposedly know more than Jesse…
Huh, so basically Steven is more into ju-jutsu / aiki-jutsu / even judo, which is something very interesting. I can respect that, as that's where my own martial arts journey has taken me since I started with my first martial art, aikido, 25 years ago.
I will admit, I am shocked he is trying to revive the roots of Aikido’s true form, Daitō-Ryū Aikijūjutsū. Which is FAR more effective than Aikidō will ever be. Heck it’s even the base art of Hapkido and other Jūjutsu styles like Atemi-Ryū Jūjutsu. The style I learned.
Leaving aside rumor, accusations and hearsay Steven Seagal publically exhibited/exhibits certain behaviour and views that I strongly disagree with. Personally I would go so far, that they should disqualify him from getting any promotional coverage. That said I do not know the man and I can not judge him as a person. From a martial art point of view I want to add, that applying an excessive amount of force during training is not a problem of power or built (in my experience). It's either a lack of control or a concious decision.
That is because your experience, is within the Lower Levels of Expression. When you learn and master higher level "Internal" arts methods... its very easy to accidentally injure an OP. I was doing a demo with an MMA fighter. My one arm, against his two (bare fisted). We agreed on Medium levels of power, to keep things relatively "Safe". After a few min. of not being able to land anything on me... he got Embarrassed and Angered... and amped up to full speed, full power, with true intent to harm. Problem is... you cant "SEE" power. Power is only "Felt"... and so by that time... its way too late. He tried a high hook to low gut-punch combination. I easily swatted the hook away, then stepped back while dropping my arm into the path of his full force strike. I had chose to only use about a 10% level arm Deflection tech. That would not have caused much more than a mild bruise, as medium levels.. at best. However, because he used his full potentials... it nearly shattered his wristbone. The injury swelled up nearly double in size, and he was in great pains for many days to follow. That said, he was seriously impressed, after I showed his how and what went down. I had to explain it to him... because he was standing there wondering how the heck that I was not curled up on the ground, in tears. You see, the arm deflection is not just performed with the arm. Its actually a whole body-mass tech. So, It was essentially like trying to strike a falling 180 lbs metal bar, with all of your might. As for your decision to Cancel someone, based on accusations... Look no further than Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard. She manipulated him from the start... trashed his reputation, and tried to Ruin him with false allegations. She was such a bad Liar, that the Jury (and everyone else) were easily able to see through her BS... but... many other females are far more cunning, and thus... far more destructive. Weather or not Seagal is an actual abuser... I could not tell you (he might very well be). But Im not going to believe anyones words on the matter, without actual concrete evidence. Our country was founding on "Innocent, before being proven Guilty", and for good reasons. As for Politics, there are many sides that are hidden from the general Lemmings... and a corrupted Mass Media machine... that has been PROVEN to spout Propaganda and LIES, for many many decades, spanning many many historical events. Including so called: "Weapons of Mass Destruction", that never existed.
Not liking BJJ for its name and some Samurai fantasy is truly the most Bullshido way to think about another martial art. If Bruce Lee were alive and you asked him about his opinion on BJJ, would he talk about its name and relationship to historical martial arts? No, he would talk about its effectiveness. Bruce Lee would have been intrigued and would be obsessing over how it could enrich his martial arts journey. He could probably spend an hour talking about his analysis of it, and when asked about the name? He would handwave it away as irrelevant.
you talk about bruce lee as if he's the authority on martial arts. good he may be but, his word is not law. I'm not defending Seagal but, he's speaking from a traditional perspective that basically amounts to shame that martial arts have devolved into sports and it is a shame. his point about BJJ is also pretty fair. it's a self defense tool that is only effective if there is only one attacker. it would be useless as an actual warefare applied tool. that being said japanese martial arts are a lot more modern than most people suspect so it's not too egregrious but, I still see his point.
@@TGPDrunknHick BJJ useless as an effective warfare tool, that's why both the US Army and the US Navy (not to mention other best trained armies) teach it in their close combat programs.
@@HardHardMaster how many modern wars devolve into one on one fist fights though? they don't. the vast majority of soldiers these days will never been a situation where BJJ is a better solution over whatever other weapons they have.
Totally enjoyed Jesse's breakdown on his time with Seagal - I watched his original video and got the feeling that Seagal is not what so many have made him out to be, but respectful, incredibly knowledgeable, humble and giving. Props to Jesse, as well - love his videos, but this one in general was great. Thanks for doing a "behind the scenes" breakdown with Jesse - very much enjoyed it - You earned yourself a sub.
Wow, with so many bad reviews about Mr. Seagal on UA-cam, this is a very personal, insightful and close up assessment of the man. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Humbling.
I'm really worried this is one of those instances where you begin to idolize someone just because they are famous and nice to you. When there are dozens of accounts on him being a horrible person to the point of possible child sex trafficking, a few anecdotal takes trying to justify him kind of falls flat. I doubt he is the type to let you discuss these issues with him and actually challenge him on his past. That should be a red flag about him, but aside from that it hurts seeing people try to make excuses for him just because of a few pleasant moments they had with him.
Ok got to the 4min mark and really? He's humble because he invites you to fancy dinners and nice stuff and private lessons? That's not being humble that's literally just showing off.
I wanted to say something like this, guy has multiple sexual abuse allegations and assault allegations from stunt men in movies. Dude is a fucking monster and shouldn't be defended.
There are limits to overlooking someone's politics. Seagal filmed a propaganda clip for the Russian government inside occupied Ukraine, specifically aimed at backing Moscow's version of an incident that killed many Ukrainian prisoners of war. Now, even if you believe Moscow's version, it is fair to ask what Seagal was doing, getting shipped into an illegally occupied territory in order to then read from a script written by the Russians. Is that brave, heroic, independent, in any way? Or is it pathetic fealty towards a powerful state that he somehow decided to do business with? I think it's pretty clear it's the latter, and it's hard to see any honour in such behaviour. Therefore, I would advise any person doing decent content online to drop Seagal. This is certainly no time to lend him any kind of credibility.
@@varanid9 why do you think they made him a citizen? And come on the Russian state has been waging a hybrid warfare against Ukraine since 2014. They are experts are doing propaganda.
@@lilith4961 and Zelensky, the corrupt as f**k dictator, wouldn't DREAM of using propaganda, of course. It's Russia's back yard, just as Grenada was ours.
@@gandalainsley6467 you mean all the ones controlled by western bankers. Gotcha. Guess you would have praised ol' Adolf because of all the nations that praised him too.
I love Jesse's open approach and willingness to learn new things even at his level, that's got to be the reason Mr Segal invited him to spend time! Kudo's to them both!
absolute nonsense. People put on different personas for 8h a day regularly. It's really damn normal. Actors are even better at it because it's their job. He's been practicing his persona his whole life. It's effortless for him. With his wife or kids, he will not be using his public persona. You don't know him because you met him for a conversation.
This should be important for Rokas - since the first video I mentioned - the issue is not Aikido, the issue is how you perform. There are several styles of Aikido, some generate more sloppy techniques than others, but the bottom line is: that it's your responsibility to be critical and to improve your technique, despite the style you're learning or training on.
Wow! Thank you! Really loved seeing this balanced and fair video about Steven Seagal. I get so tired of all the videos bagging on him. I know nothing about the various rumors on the internet about him, whether true or not. I just know I always liked his talent and technique and loved his early movies.
Excellent interviews and discussion of Sensei Steven Seagal! From a strictly martial arts related point of view, this is the best, most relevant, most interesting piece on Seagal I have seen in years! It showcases the man talking about and demonstrating what he truly loves and has devoted his life to - genuine martial arts. Well done!
Steven Seagal is completely legit. His movies are definitely over-exaggerated for the action movie crowd and I highly doubt he worked for the CIA like he claims but in terms of his actual martial arts ability, he's as genuine as they get, probably the greatest American Aikido practitioner of all time. Would his techniques translate well in modern day MMA/UFC? Probably not, but when he was in his physical prime he would absolutely hold his own in a fight with most people. Especially given how his style of Aikido is more brutal and direct rather than the softer modern style you see today. Also his first five movies are still great, just ignore the rest.
It is refreshing to see Jesse's respect for steven as i always have because i must admit Steven Seagal was like i strong Roll model for me in a good way back when i was younger and keeping a stiff up lip for all those bullies that came my way,
First of all I highly respect your work and since I am practicing Aikijutsu myself, I find it very informative too. But the latest news that I heard about Seagal, is that he‘s now off to film a sort of propaganda documentary about the russian side of the Ukraine conflict. Now I really understand the thing about not being interested in someones political pov, but we cannot look away from actions like this. As a martial artist who is so devoted to a peace bringing martial art, reinvented after the massive destruction in Japan after WW2, this takes away all my respect for Seagal. There are many many innocent people dying in this conflict. Supporting war is a crime in my eyes. As I said Rokas and Jesse I really admire your work and content and don‘t want to blame you at all, but since you are Europeans and have a responsibility as content creators and martial artists too, I needed to say this. Edit: Besides that multiple women accused Seagal of sexual harassment or assault. There were several lawsuits too.
What makes you think Russia shouldn't be allowed to express their side of the conflict? You do realize Seagal became a Russian citizen, don't you? I think he might even be on friendly terms with Putin, I know they met.
@@varanid9 Seagal is friendly with Putin, and Russia HAS stated publicly their intentions. Putin himself has hearkened back to the good old days of the soviet union (where Ukraine was treated brutally), and has called Ukrainians Neo Nazis as a way to justify his actions.
The Ukrainians have been developing Bio-Weapons, via US Funded Labs. From what has been stated... that was the real reason for the invasion. These labs are developing "genetic-targeted" Viruses. Such as... for example.. targeting only Chinese citizens... in an attempts to vastly reduce the population, and the threat that China poses. That said, the globalists have no reason to stop at only China. They are more than happy to target US citizens as well.
Huge respect for showing Take Sensei Seagal in a respectful way and showing that there are always two sides to a person and that we always strive for the light. Domo Arigato .
I think the last point Jesse made was perfect to explain why he did that interview and why he didn't ask what everybody else was curious about. 100% agree with that point!
Thank you for all of this. So easy for people to criticize from behind a screen. But reality is never what people think it is. Thank you from a Muay Thai guy.
Probably one of the best Rokas videos…ever. ….less blah blah blah and “I would do this” and second guessing in armchair, sports-based theorizing, and more just asking somebody questions and letting them talk. here we see Rokas at his most open and thoughtful… and oddly enough, he seems most at peace.
Fun fact: samurai and also knights did go to the ground, because their armor was very effective and if you had only a sword or even a spear, it was really difficult or sometimes even impossible to hurt the samurai or knight, so they grappled him, took a dagger and went staby-staby to the armors weakspots (eyes, armpits, neck, etc.). So yes, they definitely went to the ground. 👍
Yes, but for exactly that reason, that staby- staby to weakspots is alot easier on the ground, they most often tried not to go to the ground themselves. A standing and moving knight that can threaten with his primary weapon and keep foes at distance is really hard to hurt but once you go to the ground you can easily be dogpiled by 2 or more guys and will potentially be killed or incapacitated. I dont know about Samurai but for european knights there are alot of incentives to not fall down. I believe there were instances where they had surrounded armored fighters and were unable to inflict damage on them until the knight was too tired to keep his arms up and surrendered. If that dude falls to the gound it wont take that long no matter what techniques he knows.
I know more about HEMA than traditional Japanese martial arts, but the goal was never to go to the ground like in BJJ in armored fighting. You’d never pull guard. The techniques resembled wrestling or Judo more, with takedowns and maintaining top position to use a dagger. Now of course that means one of them had to be in bottom position, but the treatises about armored fighting have a lot more to say about stand up grappling/clinching than on the ground.
@@Garnichgutt if you throuw your oponent on the ground in armor the inpact alone is probebaly enough to take them out the fught fir a while its also easier to get to the weak spots in armir if your opponent is on the ground and you are above him
In Medieval combat, we know of ground fighting not only from many detailed accounts, we know that people perceived it as highly important and we have manuals teaching Medieval combat grappling. Daggers play OF COURSE a big part of that sort of grappling. They also focused on completely unarmed grappling. So, would BJJ be a complete representation of the grappling that knights/samurai might have been training for? No, of course it is not complete. It is a grappling art and that alone makes it "incomplete". It just focuses on one aspect for means of specialization. They would also train swordfighting by just focusing on swordfighting. Because modular training works better. In other sessions, you do integrative training. Bruce Lee said he fears the man who trained one kick 10,000 times, not the man trained 10,000 kicks once. That doesn't mean that one kick is sufficient or that there isn't a benefit to knowing more than one kick, it means that he values mastery of a skill over quantity. That is something you achieve by having modular training with a narrow focus.
The problem with meeting seagal is that he is known for lying, so anything he says you should take with a huge grain of salt. So even the whole thyroid thing could be b.s.
I worked with him in China when he was shooting a movie with Tyson. Him and Tyson never fought, it was always the actor fighting the stunt double of the other actor ( for ego reason). Then Steven Seagal was stealing all of the Oreo from catering for himself. His bodyguard ( a British dude) was super funny, he told us of all the shitty things Steven was doing. Hilarious.
It's finally nice to hear something positive about Steven Seagal. The only thing that I've heard in the last 10 or more years is his weight. I've never seen him as being so bad and seriously couldn't understand the extreme criticism. This is an honest video thanks to Jesse.
I saw the Steven Seagal clip with Jesse. It's pretty cool. Exactly how I imagined it would be. Seagal probably sees 'disrespect' better than he sees 'respect.' And not because people don't respect him in person, but because it's incomprehensible, for someone with his stature, 'real' or imagined. If you're young-ish, you need to be around a teacher who embodies this type of confidence, intelligence, and dedication. I would say Jesse is a bit advanced and bit old for how Seagal went about showing him his stuff, but realistically, if Seagal reaches out to you, it's kinda a proposition you cannot refuse, regardless of age. Seagal chose Jesse for a reason and obviously is a good judge of character. Anyone, who has good judgement, is the furthest thing from a 'hack.' Most people, who say stuff about Seagal, want 'warrior reality' to be a concrete, fixed idea and visual. It's never that way, although this idea of how big the 'fight' is in YOU, which determines how great a warrior you are, is 100 percent false. You are or you aren't.
Ya all remember the episode where SS was involved in MMA, proclaiming that he was the guy who thought Silva and Lioto had that infamous front leg kick, and he wanted all the credit for.
@@uprollsariotvan he also said that he has been doing that kick all his life. Machida thought it would be a funny joke to let Seagal meddle a bit, not knowing Seagal is a delusional narcissist that would immediately try to use it for personal gain and glory.
@@uprollsariotvan he didn't admit that at all there's literally an interview with Enkamp where he interviews Lioto and Lioto says he showed it to SS who promptly gave his "expert advice". Followed by a clip of Steven Seagal spewing his usual bull this time claiming that they worked very hard on it together for a long time. You paedophile/sexual abuser/slaver apologists are ridiculous
I have a lot of respect for both of you, but come on, overlooking the serious allegations and controversies of this man is getting kinda rediculous now. Overlooking a person's personal life and politics is one thing, but when that person has been involved in multiple sexual assault cases and is a close friend of a fascist dictator who is literally bombing civilians as we speak, continuing to give him positive coverage is pretty bloody tactless.
Part 2: Im going to add another thing... If you choose to want to try to "Cancel" people that you do not like, or SUSPECT that they did something wrong... then you do realize... how Slippery of a Slope that such a thing is... right? Every Radical Tyrant, has used the same type of "Justifications", to inflict punishment, or lethality, to anyone that goes against their will. Anyone that presents a HINT of "Speculation" ,can easily be thrown into a prison camp... and be tortured, and left to rot away, in a dark cell / labor camp.. or be used for "Organ" harvesting. China's MAO, radicalized the children within the schools... as young as 3 yrs old. Eventually, he unleased them as his own personal army... with so called "Good Intentions". Except that... nobody good, radicalizes Children. Over 70 million Chinese lives were lost, in his "Cultural Revolution". And far more suffered, from this period in their History. In fact, they still suffer, due to the unfairness, quality of life, lack of freedoms, lack of human rights, and other Oppressions that their Rulers impress upon them. Realize, that being a Radical foot-soldier... does not grant you any special immunity from the higher ups. All "Useful Idiots", will eventually be on the chopping block as well. You never make a deal with the Devils.
2:22 If his medicine is prednisone then i sympathize. Im also on it & doctors dont EVER warn you of how it will affect your hunger. It makes you super hungry. You could eat a full course meal to the point that you cant even move & you take one tiny pill & your hungry again. Its how i got super fat too. The secret is to take it at night just before going to bed. Its helped me a lot.
Guys this is getting embarrassing now... Like neither of you are seriously going to address the actual allegations? He spent all this time with someone that's assaulted multiple women throughout the course of his career, and then he's going to play it off like: "Well, I don't care about his political views." ...Right, okay brother.
@@macleod1592being about martial arts is not a legit justification for platforming a rapist. If anything it makes you complicit to an extent on allowing the perpetrator to get away with it.
I don’t understand the hate so many have towards Mr. Seagal. I have huge respect towards him. Thank you Jesse for what you do, and for this video Martial Arts Journey.
Jesse is the only guy I respect that is actually fooled by Seagal's antics. Aside from the toxic mcdojo shit he throws out there... He's right now being a puppet for Putin in his war on Ukraine.
He also used people to the point of criminality. To me, his weight symbolizes his gluttonous nature of consuming everything he wants without consideration. Those who stay near him want something out of him, and he knows that. It’s interesting that he reached out to you for the interview. Be careful
lol right? How hard would it be for a narcissistic and pathological liar to manipulate an interviewer by playing the 'nice guy' for a day? Were talking about a man who bastardized Buddhism and literally claimed to be a god after lying and cheating his way in and out of Hollywood. I found this interview pretty hard to stomach knowing everything I know about Steven. Sure, you could probably learn some legit moves from him, but there are plenty of legit, non-sociopathic martial artists who could sub Steven even back in his glory days. I tried looking at this from an unbiased, objective perspective, but I'm just not buying it.
Anything to get clicks... Of course, if this was a video about anyone else training with Seagal, you'd have nothing good to say, as usual. However, since it's Jesse, even stuff that you used to be very vocal about gets a pass. What never fails to surprise me is how anyone is still buying into your whole schtick after you yourself went back on your own "revelations" countless times, not to mention the obvious prejudice you seem to have, as well as a very superficial and often times condescending approach to anything that doesn't conform to that prejudice that you take whenever talking about and "trying" things that fit that description. Then again, it is UA-cam.
People are overdoing the claims of Seagal being fake, not a single one of his accusers has evidence. We all practice japanese arts, the founder of Judo experienced the ability of the founder of Aikido and called him a true Budo. I think Steven Seagal is genuine and studied Aikido pretty well, not unless you can pass through multiple attackers can you know Aikido like he does. But I think he does have a personality disorder, but then again, who doesn't? Thyroid cancer and complications were common in the 50s and 60s, especially after the bombings in Japan and numerous nuclear tests and crude power generators around the places Seagal grew up and frequented. He developed Narcissistic traits but from my martial arts experience and perspective, I think he is legit.
Mr Segal's movements are assertive, smooth and quick. This is the product of focused repetition, the hallmark of a dedicated martial artist. This observation comes to mind every time i hear people bad mouth him. Are they devoted martial artists like us? Much respect sir. thank you
I'm a lifelong martial artist, and I'm a martial arts nerd in my own way. I see Seagal for the liar he is and from your words I got the impression that you're the typical delusional type of martial artist, calling realistic and sceptical martial artists 'not real/devoted/respectful/'and all that crap. Correct me if I'm wrong in my conclusion (but prove it), but If you think you're some sort of modern samurai and you're accusing critical martial artists of not having enough 'respect' or 'devotion' or such things, I already know you're delusional.
that was great to hear from Jesse...a lot of really interesting points...another insight into Steven Seagal......loved Jesse's positiveness.. well said and Thanks for the post!!
Assume you have a heated argument with someone... and his decision is to go outside and punch each other in the face; would that be the preferred and civilised way to conclude a dispute or argument? Do we solve our arguments only by fighting? Or would people admire you to avoid the fight?
Interesting, most people bashing him obviously didn't meet him in person or even had knowledge about martial arts, good to see opinion of someone unbiased.
There's something few people know of Steven Seagal: He's a Vajrayana Practitioner(or was) and was recognized a tulku of the famous 17th Century tertön Chungdrag Dorje. His philosophy of on self defense and martial arts that talked with Jesse is straight on the Vajrayana Buddhism takes on these things. Despite his reputation and his actor past, he's the real deal.
So nice to hear positive things being said about Steven Seagal for a change instead of the negativity that has seemed to surround him in recent years. Awesome!
@@bloodwynn his love of Putin and sexual harassment behavior. However it is great to hear positive things about him and understand more about the kind of guy he has evolved into
@@Berengier817 there's a lot more than just those things. Some of it has been pointed out in the comments, and yet there's still more and more. There's nothing admirable about that pos.
Hitting stunt people, raping women and endorsing dictators more than just "negativity". Im sorry that inconveniences you. Im sure his victims also feel like it kinda sucks
The way segal practices and studies is the way I learned the self defense aikido system for military and security use. They sometimes call it hard style aikido. I studied aikido and aikijujutsu. The samurai way. Although there is focus on using minimal force necessary and conserving energy. You also use the necessary level of force as needed to deal with a threat. Also you are supposed to learn taijutsu alongside aikido, just like you learned jojutsu and kenjutsu. Taijutsu means body skills, and refers to physical strikes, tumbling, and conditioning.
Interesting video, one problem.. the samurai didn't wear heavy armor and even the European knights in their full sheets of metal weren't as heavy as we're lead to believe.. Chainmail can be rather heavy, but other than that armor throughout history was designed around movement of the warrior wearing it.
Big fan of Jessie and Rokus. Great stuff in the video as usual. The only criticism of Segal mentioned here was that he hits stuntmen too hard... That's criminally understating his past. Propoganda-level cherry-picking of data. I'm not condemning Segal, but it's very dissapointing to see such emphasis put on white-washing his troubled past and present. You could have handled it just as ameanably without demeaning the severity of his actions, both alleged and confirmed.
I see your point and I agree that part of it could be addressed in some way, but I do believe that Jesse addressed this point at the end by saying that he divides someone's personal life and their experience and knowledge as a martial artist
@@MartialArtsJourney I'm glad to see you respond mature and humbly, that's what I expect from you. You're a bit of a hero now. Yeah I agree it is adressing it, I don't argue it's a valid point in general. However this is a special case: You two are famous and exerting authority on a worldwide audience. Even if you don't condone something, if you address it and then dismiss it you are, to some degree, enabling it. So make sure you understand what it is you are enabling. You two are bringing such good to this world with the power of your fame, just be very cautious of your actions so that they do not cause harm. I love you both, sincerely. Thank you for all you've done, and keep it up!
@@MartialArtsJourney Putin is also a martial artist. A better one than Seagal IMO, Jesse should interview him too. I really enjoy Jesse's content and I respect a lot of what he does and how he does it, but this was just sickening. Somehow expected you to be more critical as well.
@@MartialArtsJourney Did you guys talk about it how good he thinks, Seagal is really? Many ask for it but no reply ever to it. Not that I would be too interested myself. From existing video footage it can be seen, that Seagal is real deal, no matter if liking his personality or not. The way he moves and does techniques show clearly, that he has done thousands after thousands repeats, which is demanded to become top level in what he does. He is without any doubt a dangerous guy to fight. Then again what would happen against some orher top class fighters is another thing. But some "average Joe" shouldn't try his luck. There are old bullshido "masters" who are useless in real situations, Seagal isn't one of them. I have fought real fights so to say as security worker, no rules, as in dojo and in the ring. Still I wouldn't try my luck with someone like Seagal even though his personality is questionable. And his hand movement etc. That guy is fast. And fast guy who knows what he is doing is dangerous.
Did you ask him about how Steven Seagall spars and whether he sparred with him? I was wondering if he can actually pull off any of the stuff he demonstrated.
He probably could, but Seagal lives in the desert and is 70 years old this year. Sparring hard the way a 20-year-old competitor would want to isn’t gonna be on his list of options.
This meeting you had and just what you discussed on this episode is totally 100% on point. Some of us have known it for years... What is called Akido, as practiced world wide is not the same art as Seagal practices. The distance and timing, along with the intent is all wrong... To add more rabbit holes, there is supposed to not be any Aiki Jutsu, only Diato Ryu... when there are families that practice AikiJutsu. like Yanagi Ryu. Stephen is absolutely correct about the ground, and now that Don Angier passed some time ago I do not know of any other Non-Japanese Aikia practicioners with the depth of insight that Stephen brings to the table.
What kind of question would you have asked Jesse about Steven Seagal?
I'd have asked him about Steven Seagal's strong support of Russia's invasion of the Ukraine and then about his very close friendship to Russia's fascist dictator, Vladimir Putin.
Would Jesse consider going to one of Steven Seagals seminars? I'd also be interested if you would too Rokas?
My question would be: How much he was paid for his Russian propaganda support?
If he thinks that Seagal could actually defend himself against a trained fighter - to me it seems all nice and smooth, when there’s no resistance, but most of the techniques would be hard to pull off in sparring/fight
How much did Seagal pay you for talking nice?
I think Jesse got selected by Mr. Seagal for this interview simply because of Jessie‘s humility and the way he approaches everything with a fresh perspective.
Jesse's is a true student of martial arts who does not let other people's opinions about a person keep him from learning something new.
And maybe sensei seagal needed some youtube time and chose mr enkamp for this particular reason, but what i know that as a yiutuber myself i enjoyed jesse's episode with master seagal plus also enjoyed this video made by rockas aswell, keep up the great work guys, osu
Nah...Stevie watches youTube and thought this guy would give him some clicks.
Steven seagal has really been misinterpreted on a lot of things. Love me some seagal.
@@charlesghannoumlb2959 Just a friendly FYI: In Japanese, the title goes second, after an individual’s surname, so it would be “Seagal Sensei” just like “Daniel San” is Mr. Daniel.
Man, Jesse was such a class act here! Always very respectful and humble. Looks for the positives and focuses on those!
I love how Jesse focuses on the positives! That's very inspiring for me, especially as a person who spent a part of his life criticizing things... 😊
@@MartialArtsJourney Important question though: up to what point is that responsible?
No one is perfect, and that applies to being perfectly bad. Meaning that even the most heinous person you can think of probably has a positive side to them.
@@Fernando-ek8jp So true. I once knew a young couple that raped and tortured their own 8 month old baby, ending up in jail. Yet, they could also be friendly, funny and generous, too, so I realized I shouldn't judge them and accept them as they are. After all, I'M not perfect, either.
@@varanid9 The only thing that tells me is that even those capable of incredibly monstruos acts are still people, but I don't think that just abstaining from judgment is the right thing either. Specially in a situation like the one you described, that's absolutely harrowing.
Segal is spends his time and influence legitimizing Dictators. He also has a reputation of molesting and raping his female coworkers and hiting stuntmen even though his contract says not to.
I find it pretty hard to look past that... especially when he's known in the industry to be a total asshole.
You can tell Jesse had a good upbringing.
Such a polite and respectful gentleman.
Thanks for the chat Rokas! Your journey inspires us all 🔥🙏💪
Thank you so much Jesse! You always inspire me!
Thank you very much for telling us good thing about him. By the way, you pronounced "Samurai" sa MYU rai but real Japanese pronunciation would be close to "Sum rye".
You and Rokas are indelible within the Martial Arts community. I feel it goes beyond that. I respect people who are genuine, humble, truly compassionate and empathetic. You and Rokas have that. As human beings we judge, that's what people do. You first do it as a subconcious safety mechanism, more primal. Then you have those who do it to feel more content. Whatever that may be for them, go with the crowd or a self-esteem thing. You and Rokus both give an unbiased view and that goes back to being genuine people. I have seen all types of men and all types of things happen. Fought in Iraq and Afghanistan to another extreme of dealing with addiction and what that brings about. I am in recovery now and living a good life. I have always had martial arts in my life and can accredited my values and moral code to that, even before joining the military. My father was a great teacher and is back at it, which is awesome. If either of you happen to be in the NYC area, both of you are more than welcome to come train with us, teach a class and I would love to show you around up here in North New Jersey. It would be an honor. I will reach out to both of you. In case you see this and would like to take me up on the offer if you find yourself in the states, I live in the northern most part of New Jersey, an hour away from NYC. PeaCe, Love & Afro-Grease!!!🙏🔥
Thanks , Jesse ! I like the way you are talking behind someone whom you met, i.e. Steven Seagal. One should not blame the other whom we have met and experienced the courtesy discussion, especially in the public. I give you my heart. You are the realest martial artist ever.
- I have seen a lot but never talked with commentators being the keyboard fighters who have never ever proven their own skills. I do not know if Seagal is a real martial man in the arena; but I believe he is a tough guy in a street fight because of his size and weight. I myself have experienced some accidental street fights. They are much different from a fight on rules, including MMA/UFC having very less rules. For instance, one will never know the poor floor condition (slope with some natural obstacles) can be the unexpected weapon, when fighting. An experienced Muay Thai fighter can be the loser in their street fight.
Jesse, again you are pure awesomeness! A true martial arts master.
If Seagal does have a thyroid disorder I can sympathize with the weight issues. I lost half of my thyroid in 2016 (tumor in my neck that had grown into one lobe) and within just a few months I had put on 50lbs. I stabilized at about 70 over my usual weight and have been working on losing it since. 99% of my diet is vegetables and good proteins. The only sugars, carbs, etc. I have are the small amounts find in avocado and other healthy foods. I exercise every single day (weights and/or cardio) and have lost less than 20lbs in 18 months. It's a legit struggle.
I take levo and lio in mid doses, I get it brother. I am not big but I get tired. I can only imagine your struggle. God bless 🙏
Dude the guy isn't training. If he was, he wouldn't look like a hippo. Period.
Mr Jones in these replies has never seen a sumo wrestler in his life. Nor heard of Mark Hunt. Nor Tai Tuivasa and Derrick Lewis. Nor Daniel Cormier.
Seagal is visibly taller than both Jesse and Oliver in those videos, who aren’t short either! The big guy definitely has muscle mass.
Does a thyroid disorder make you commit sexual assault? Bigamy? Does it cause you to pretend to be a Navy Seal or claim to have been in the CIA? 😐
@@fabiosplendido9536 It did for me, I did all those things within 6 months of symptoms. I was fatigued but I was still able to become a CIA assasin.
It's good to finally see a different perspective of Steven Seagal considering everyone seems only interested in bashing him these days. No one is perfect, but we all have a good side to us.
He was invited to watch his lifestyle like a movie or play. Steven showed him what he wanted to show him and nothing more. This fresh perspective is just the same old Steven trying to manipulate others into thinking hes an amazing person who definitely didn't sexually abuse women or seriously hurt stuntmen during film takes
@@BaronRodney I know he isn't amazing. I also believe few people are completely evil. That said, Seagal doesn't even make my top 10 list of favourite actors so I do not give him much though. I never heard of him sexually abusing women as I have not looked into his life off of cam. I did hear about him injuring stuntmen.
@@BenWork-nf5jh And to be fair he hasn't been charged with anything but only because he left the country before he could stand trial. I don't think there are many truly evil people either but when it comes to seagal, he's just not a good dude
@mikegriz Unless ofcourse he had a good reason to lie.
@mikegriz did you even read what I wrote?
Pretty cool seeing people like you, Jesse and other channels like hard2hurt exploring martial arts exchanging experience and skills with each other stepping across boundaries of styles. Keep it up man it truly is inspiring and educating.
Agreed.
Jesse: Steven Seagul is humble
Steven Seagul when asked about other martial artists: Can I laugh in your face?
Yeah, no I'm not buying it.
One word. Space Ice.
@@Sammasambuddhathat’s two words. And I’ll give you another two: Sensei Seagal.
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GOOD ONE!
Like, 30 years between those interviews?
@@ksotar So now he's a POS that's old.
Goldenbell's video 'Sketchy Things About Steven Seagal That We All Ignored'
He's a lifelong scam artist.
Jesse always a class act ,never bad mouthing others or styles, just respect . Awesome!
Laundering the reputation of someone like Steven Seagal is not a "class act" thing to do.
Just another negative person in the world 😊
I love how Jesse looks beyond his arts.
I really enjoy Jesse Enkamps videos and personality. He does great interviews and conducts himself beyond reproach. A great example to martial artists and regular joes. The world needs more of this
There's a lot of good comments here pointing out the flaws in defending Seagal, one that bothers me a lot that I haven't seen is the idea that he just had a hard time pulling his punches with stuntmen. If someone as tough as Gene LeBell is calling you out for beating up on your stunt team, you're doing something wrong. You're making movies, you're not fighting, you're not even training or sparring, safety comes first above all else and if you're abusing your coworkers you're not a professional, you're a bully
Mike Tyson, and Ali could pull their punches (as seen on TV interviews). "I'm too powerful to pull my punches" is bullshit.
Not only that but there's the allegation that Seagal assaulted John Leguizamo on set.
So it really comes off as hes just being a bully.
@@lao-grotten1101 yeah there's tons of accounts by different people that he pulls this crap. One video of him being gracious for a day to someone he invited to film him doesn't negate all the crap he's pulled for decades
This was obviously a very calculated move to revive his image and unfortunately at least for Jesse it appears to have worked
@@lao-grotten1101 Don't forget the multiple allegations of sexual assault, including some involving underage girls.
Or the allegations of taking part in sex trafficking...
Excellent content as always, Rokas! You and Jesse are my favourite martial arts UA-camrs. I love how clearly you both communicate your knowledge and lessons, and you are both so humble! Keep up the great work!
Thanks!!
"Old" aikido... Daitō-ryū, a real martial art. The joke says that a student of Daitō-ryū asked his sensei:
- What's the difference between Daitō-ryū and aikido, Sensei?
- If your opponent falls with a smile it's aikido, if he falls screaaming in pain and with a dislocation or a brokken bone, it's Daitō-ryū.
I think of Seagal very differently now after watching your videos. There are so many negative videos about him and I've realized he seems authentic.
Don't be decieved.. steve is the best at akido, but, he is a narcissist.. and asshole who thinks he whips anyone in the UFC.. in all honesty those boys would hurt him, even in his prime.. akido only works if the opponent doesn't fight back.. now yes i give steven segal all the credit for being an akido master.. because he truly is the best on this planet in that martial art..
I would be really careful with Seagal. You guys are honest and forthright and it is easy to be taken in by a professional conman. Seagal is problematic in a great many ways and I'd hate to see you guys pulled into it. It feels a little propaganda-esque these videos. He's trying to present himself as something he's not. I like Jesse but I definitely had some issues with some things he said about Seagal. That "I don't care what you do with your private life" is understandable but when you are talking about abuse and rape, that's another thing.
Traditional jujutsu does go to the ground, just like HEMA with their dagger combatives. Samurai armour is not so heavy it would impede you from getting up off the ground. You can easily run in well fitted samurai armour, hell, you can run in well fitting plate armour. I knew a woman who would run five kms in her plate armour.
I agree. I normally don't care about one's personal life but his is rife with some serious issues that are hard to ignore.
About the bjj part I believe his criticism is about pulling guard strategies being a thing instead of "oh shit I have to guard against the top opponent".
Even so, my master (he trains people for both pure BJJ and for MMA) would answer that you need to train bjj guard, especially half-guard, if you want to be able to knockout people efficiently when they are guarding against you.
What you also have to be careful with is assuming that whatever a woman says happened must be true. Seagal has never been proven of doing anything that anybody knows of. And there's 2 very recent examples of what happens when the believe women thing goes a bit too far. You have people like Johnny Depp and Marilyn Manson suffering because of accusers who can't keep stories straight and are lying all the time.
Agreed. I don't know a lot about Segal so I wouldn't make a judgment on him publicly, but his reputation really precedes him in reliable sources and very consistently.
"We are all not perfect" is powerful phrase that teaches a great lesson of humanity, but it's very reckless to throw it around with people you, admittedly, don't know much about outside of your project with him.
Given his experience, I think Jesse is more than qualified to judge whether someone is legit or not, and whether you like it or not, he's come to the opinion that Segal is pretty legit, at least when it comes to techniques etc.
Narcissists are able to stay in character for much longer than a couple of hours. Having met and worked for seagull back in the 90's, I was able to see that he was/is a con man. His arrogance was always present. This young martial artist seems sincere about seagull, but I believe he got conned. My Sensei lived in Japan during the same period of time as when seagull was there. The martial arts community was skeptical, at best, of seagull back then. This young man should do a bit more probing into seagull. seagull is not a good man.
What are you talking about lol, His skills were highly sought after in Japan in the 70s and 80s. He completely revamped Tenshin Dojo and many world class black belts studied with him. Haruo Matsuoka and Larry Reynosa are both world class students of his.
Too many Aikido elitists didn't even know how to apply it in real combat, yet all of Seagal's black belts were always well versed in practical application.
@@AztecUnshaven stop shilling your fake martial art and your rapist criminal obsessive liar mob lover narcissistic boyfriend already.
You are guilty by association.
Someone you know was also present at the hospital in the room where seagal was born too?
@@CptLJS oh I forgot you’re Jesus Christ right?? Hey slowpoke(cuz you’re slow) I’m going to let you in on a little secret: EVERYONE IS EVIL. The WHOLE world is disgusting. Got men dressing like women and being applauded for it. But nobody ever mentions that right? The world is filthy man.
You are right about one thing: narcisists are able to stay in character for more than a couple of hour. I would say they can do it for more than a couple of months.
Jesse is too humble to say anything negative
Dimwitted and gullible, not humble.
Jesse is such a nice guy. He deserves all the success he has achieved.
I watched Jesse's video before I saw this one. Since I follow both channels, I was glad to see the shared collaboration between martial artists. I would agree entirely with Jesse's comments about being interested only in the Martial Artist side of Sensei Segal. Being a life-long martial artist myself, I can appreciate, admire and learn from Sensei Segal's Aikido\Aiki-jitsu\etc. lessons, without necessarily agreeing with any other aspects of his life. Keep up the sharing\collaboration between the different Martial Arts disciplines ... it is a life-long pursuit but well worth it!
Can't help but think Jesse got the wool pulled over his eyes. Seagal is notorious for not having any real sparring or fight footage(or even credible stories) but he's somehow entirely legit?
plenty of real fighters have vouched for Seagal being the real deal.
@@AztecUnshaven Name them.
@@Fastwinstondoom Gladly...
1.) Lyoto Machida and his brother Chinzo (check their youtube channel they talk of this in detail).
2.) "Razor" Rey Garcia. Veteran cop/bodyguard, black belt in Karate, Judo and Renzo Gracie BJJ, golden gloves boxing winner. Stated Seagal "threw him like a rag doll".
3.) Ron Smoorenburg. Dutch kickboxer, veteran stuntman. Stated Seagal had one of the hardest strikes he'd ever seen/felt.
4.) Ricco Rodriguez. Former UFC heavyweight champ. Hall of famer. Trained with Seagal in 2010-2011, stated Seagal "moved like a cat" and that Seagal threw him "around like a little leaf."
5.) Ron Balicki. Veteran stuntman, pioneer NHB MMA fighter, student of Dan Inosanto JKD, and instructor to youtuber Ed from Metrolina Martial Arts. Balicki called Seagal a "true master" of martial arts.
@@AztecUnshaven Well, I watched the Machida video. Reminded me alot of Jesse's video. Lots of demonstration, no sparring or pressure testing.
@@AztecUnshaven a lot of people think Bruce Lee was a 'real fighter' too.
People are stupid.
About his thyroid disease it makes a lot of sense. Jet Li has the same and that's why he left the action movies. I remember that Seagal had a time out after his last movie for silver screen, EXIT WOUNDS, and when he returned I saw that something with him changed.
He's been gaining weight since Marked for death.
I am a retired Israeli Infantry officer. I have practiced Silat and Krav Maga and combined both in years of training. When I saw the video on Steven Segal and Jesse in Dubai. That was very well done. I am always open to learning new things and new styles and incorporating those with mine.
Thank you both.
Israeli, plus silat plus Krav, bad ass!!!!
The good old thyroid problem , heard this all the time when I was a personal trainer . The funny things is there is a thyroid hormone you can take if that's the issue . People overweight will eat healthy around you but then when there by themselves they keep eating..
As a long time fan, I like how light was shed on Mr. Seagal! Although I understand the reasoning behind the slow/safe practicing of aikido techniques in a dojo, I personally feel Mr. Seagal principles of Aikido should be performed in that exact way... straight to the point and not all like how it is nowadays! UA-cam channels Aikidoflow & Azerbaijan Real Aikido Federation kinda shows how it should be!
Thank you very much for posting a video like this. I don't know why I hadn't seen this one before today. You, Jesse and Mr Seagal in a video, I'm happy to see this. Jesse thinks pretty much the same way I always did regarding all of this, and I'm glad that this way to see things as a martial artist was shared with the public. Big big respect, from one martial artist to another, and another, and another. We are one big family, with each our own personal way of doing things in the end.
"To me, martial arts is about honestly expressing yourself."
- Bruce Lee
I know a lady who worked closely with Stephen, at his home and so forth, she had nothing but good things to say about him.
I love both Jesse and Rokas and Jesse is super respectful but maan, check out Kelly Lebrok's side or any girls he harassed. And the thousands of lies about his ethnicity and professions. Why lie that he "invented Anderson Silva´s kick'' a front kick? seriously? a basic kick in almost ANY kickboxing art and he´s not even a kickboxer, he´s a grappler for godsake. He has so much of a inflated ego that is very hard to let it pass and give him respect as a martial artist.
Wrong, Seagal has Karate, Kungfu and Judo experience as well. Also, Kelly LeBrock made it very clear in her autobiography that Seagal NEVER physically hurt her.
@@AztecUnshaven hear that guys? Sexual harassment is okay as long as you don’t physically hurt them
@@AztecUnshaven might also wanna check out what his first wife said about him and his background, the Japanese aikido dojo owner one that he parasited off and then left alone with their kids without warning to hook up with Kelly LeBrock for the networking benefits among other things.
@@HardHardMaster Lol, because testimony from a bitter ex wife is always reliable right?
Seagal earned his head instructor position because his skill was outstanding. Miyako's dad was struggling to keep students, they almost closed down before Seagal stepped in. Seagal turned that Dojo around and saved it. People like Larry Reynosa and Michael Ovitz were there and saw firsthand how Tenshin Dojo was top level with Seagal as head instructor.
@@AztecUnshaven
You forgot to mention that during the test for his black belt, the instructor fell asleep during Seagull's demonstration and gave him the belt out of embarrassment. Seagal is nothing more than a fraud in a world filled with them.
Well… I have met stuntmen and stunt coordinators that that have said similar things about Seagal: he hits the stuntmen when he doesn’t need to. For example, when someone gets ‘punched’ in the face for film, it’s the the illusion of getting punched when a fist crosses the sight path of the camera and the target, and the reaction of the person being ‘hit’ is what sells the action - no actual contact is needed. Seagal would actually hit the stunt performer. Yes, on rare occasions, contact is used, and it is done knowingly. However, Seagal would make contact when there was none planned in the choreography. It was never chalked up to be an accident, and the stunt performers were basically told to suck it up or get off the set.
Way you explain it seems like he was just bad at his job (being an actor not a Aikido full speed demonstrator) and that the studio found more value in their high paid star then the regular people who are the stuntmen (the actual real Heroes) so they had to deal with it and say nothing.... Seems more like the studio is the one encouraging the bullying at this point. He was just ignorant of how to do his job.
Segal is a horrible person and this is just scratching the surface. He broke Sean Conerys wrist.
@@Zerja He broke Connery's wrist because Connery was trying to "tough it out", with certain techniques, even after Seagal warned him that those moves are dangerous.
@@AztecUnshaven Breaking someones wrist because they wont listen to you is beyond negligent. Any trained practitioner can tell when someone new is resisting in a dangerous way, and the correct thing to do is back off and not train that technique until they understand the danger. The wrong thing to do is to hurt/break the person as 'punishment' for not listening.
@@Zerja You're not understanding. Seagal did not do it intentionally. Connery himself said it was his own fault for trying to force through it. There are certain joint locks that cause debilitating pain immediately, there is no time to "back out" of them. If you try to force through them at full speed, it's gonna cause damage.
Such a great conversation and learning opportunity. I honestly wish that Rokas could get a chance to do the same, and perhaps find the answers he's been looking for. A lot of people love to bash Seagal unfairly, but the man is truly complex and can't be painted with a single brush. I envy the opportunity to learn from him.
I hope everybody has as humbling thought process as Jesse, one who wants to learn and to teach.
This is awesome!! The two chillest martial artists here talking about an older video... love both of you guys! 🥊
As someone who looked down on Steven segal, my respect for him has tremendously increased in many levels, from fighting to his speaking, to his beliefs, and attitudes. Really respectable person, much more than many of the other mma people especially the ones who hate him or aikido. He reminds me of Khabib a lot
And btw this was a great interview in of itself, as it debunked all the claims made by the haters that Jesse didnt respect Segal’s techniques and was just going along with it. Now the haters are claiming that Jesse was fooled and has had the wool pulled over his eyes. Now they supposedly know more than Jesse…
Huh, so basically Steven is more into ju-jutsu / aiki-jutsu / even judo, which is something very interesting. I can respect that, as that's where my own martial arts journey has taken me since I started with my first martial art, aikido, 25 years ago.
they split aikijujutsu into 3 styles which are aikido judo and jiujitsu
"None of us are perfect". Best part of this great video! I loved it!
I will admit, I am shocked he is trying to revive the roots of Aikido’s true form, Daitō-Ryū Aikijūjutsū. Which is FAR more effective than Aikidō will ever be.
Heck it’s even the base art of Hapkido and other Jūjutsu styles like Atemi-Ryū Jūjutsu. The style I learned.
I also studied god and lived by anime. My kai aura has done wonders for my career. senzu AH!
Leaving aside rumor, accusations and hearsay Steven Seagal publically exhibited/exhibits certain behaviour and views that I strongly disagree with. Personally I would go so far, that they should disqualify him from getting any promotional coverage.
That said I do not know the man and I can not judge him as a person.
From a martial art point of view I want to add, that applying an excessive amount of force during training is not a problem of power or built (in my experience). It's either a lack of control or a concious decision.
That is because your experience, is within the Lower Levels of Expression. When you learn and master higher level "Internal" arts methods... its very easy to accidentally injure an OP.
I was doing a demo with an MMA fighter. My one arm, against his two (bare fisted). We agreed on Medium levels of power, to keep things relatively "Safe". After a few min. of not being able to land anything on me... he got Embarrassed and Angered... and amped up to full speed, full power, with true intent to harm.
Problem is... you cant "SEE" power. Power is only "Felt"... and so by that time... its way too late.
He tried a high hook to low gut-punch combination. I easily swatted the hook away, then stepped back while dropping my arm into the path of his full force strike. I had chose to only use about a 10% level
arm Deflection tech. That would not have caused much more than a mild bruise, as medium levels.. at best. However, because he used his full potentials... it nearly shattered his wristbone.
The injury swelled up nearly double in size, and he was in great pains for many days to follow.
That said, he was seriously impressed, after I showed his how and what went down. I had to explain it to him... because he was standing there wondering how the heck that I was not curled up on the ground, in tears.
You see, the arm deflection is not just performed with the arm. Its actually a whole body-mass tech. So, It was essentially like trying to strike a falling 180 lbs metal bar, with all of your might.
As for your decision to Cancel someone, based on accusations... Look no further than Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard. She manipulated him from the start... trashed his reputation, and tried to Ruin him with false allegations. She was such a bad Liar, that the Jury (and everyone else) were easily able to see through her BS... but... many other females are far more cunning, and thus... far more destructive.
Weather or not Seagal is an actual abuser... I could not tell you (he might very well be). But Im not going to believe anyones words on the matter, without actual concrete evidence. Our country was founding on "Innocent, before being proven Guilty", and for good reasons.
As for Politics, there are many sides that are hidden from the general Lemmings... and a corrupted Mass Media machine... that has been PROVEN to spout Propaganda and LIES, for many many decades, spanning many many historical events. Including so called: "Weapons of Mass Destruction", that never existed.
@@johndough8115 wow that was a hefty load of bs.
@@HardHardMaster I dont waste time, spouting BS.
@@johndough8115 You're full of sh-it. Sit down.
@@johndough8115 do you call that bs an effective use of time then?
Narcissists often give superficial gifts and show fake humility. They are actors that way and Jesse god bless him is falling for the act.
Not liking BJJ for its name and some Samurai fantasy is truly the most Bullshido way to think about another martial art. If Bruce Lee were alive and you asked him about his opinion on BJJ, would he talk about its name and relationship to historical martial arts? No, he would talk about its effectiveness. Bruce Lee would have been intrigued and would be obsessing over how it could enrich his martial arts journey. He could probably spend an hour talking about his analysis of it, and when asked about the name? He would handwave it away as irrelevant.
Yeah, and it’s not like they’re calling it “super traditional Japanese jiu jitsu”.
you talk about bruce lee as if he's the authority on martial arts. good he may be but, his word is not law. I'm not defending Seagal but, he's speaking from a traditional perspective that basically amounts to shame that martial arts have devolved into sports and it is a shame. his point about BJJ is also pretty fair. it's a self defense tool that is only effective if there is only one attacker. it would be useless as an actual warefare applied tool. that being said japanese martial arts are a lot more modern than most people suspect so it's not too egregrious but, I still see his point.
You're right about Seagal and wrong about Lee.
@@TGPDrunknHick BJJ useless as an effective warfare tool, that's why both the US Army and the US Navy (not to mention other best trained armies) teach it in their close combat programs.
@@HardHardMaster how many modern wars devolve into one on one fist fights though? they don't. the vast majority of soldiers these days will never been a situation where BJJ is a better solution over whatever other weapons they have.
Totally enjoyed Jesse's breakdown on his time with Seagal - I watched his original video and got the feeling that Seagal is not what so many have made him out to be, but respectful, incredibly knowledgeable, humble and giving. Props to Jesse, as well - love his videos, but this one in general was great. Thanks for doing a "behind the scenes" breakdown with Jesse - very much enjoyed it - You earned yourself a sub.
Wow, with so many bad reviews about Mr. Seagal on UA-cam, this is a very personal, insightful and close up assessment of the man. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. Humbling.
I'm really worried this is one of those instances where you begin to idolize someone just because they are famous and nice to you. When there are dozens of accounts on him being a horrible person to the point of possible child sex trafficking, a few anecdotal takes trying to justify him kind of falls flat. I doubt he is the type to let you discuss these issues with him and actually challenge him on his past. That should be a red flag about him, but aside from that it hurts seeing people try to make excuses for him just because of a few pleasant moments they had with him.
Ok got to the 4min mark and really? He's humble because he invites you to fancy dinners and nice stuff and private lessons? That's not being humble that's literally just showing off.
I wanted to say something like this, guy has multiple sexual abuse allegations and assault allegations from stunt men in movies. Dude is a fucking monster and shouldn't be defended.
Sex trafficking is a serious crime. Shouldn't he be, like in jail for that if it's true?
@@zemocon2868 yeah, if the justice system actually worked. Bill Cosby and Andrew Tate just out and about right now.
@@baywest Well, I read about the case and it doesn't really sound as serious as I thought. Seagal had 2 russian women he had sex with?
There are limits to overlooking someone's politics. Seagal filmed a propaganda clip for the Russian government inside occupied Ukraine, specifically aimed at backing Moscow's version of an incident that killed many Ukrainian prisoners of war. Now, even if you believe Moscow's version, it is fair to ask what Seagal was doing, getting shipped into an illegally occupied territory in order to then read from a script written by the Russians. Is that brave, heroic, independent, in any way? Or is it pathetic fealty towards a powerful state that he somehow decided to do business with? I think it's pretty clear it's the latter, and it's hard to see any honour in such behaviour. Therefore, I would advise any person doing decent content online to drop Seagal. This is certainly no time to lend him any kind of credibility.
How do you know Moscow's version wasn't the accurate one? You do realize Seagal is now a Russian citizen, don't you?
@@varanid9 why do you think they made him a citizen? And come on the Russian state has been waging a hybrid warfare against Ukraine since 2014. They are experts are doing propaganda.
@@lilith4961 and Zelensky, the corrupt as f**k dictator, wouldn't DREAM of using propaganda, of course. It's Russia's back yard, just as Grenada was ours.
@@varanid9 Because every other country that isn't influenced by Russia says the opposite.
@@gandalainsley6467 you mean all the ones controlled by western bankers. Gotcha. Guess you would have praised ol' Adolf because of all the nations that praised him too.
I love Jesse's open approach and willingness to learn new things even at his level, that's got to be the reason Mr Segal invited him to spend time! Kudo's to them both!
absolute nonsense. People put on different personas for 8h a day regularly. It's really damn normal. Actors are even better at it because it's their job. He's been practicing his persona his whole life. It's effortless for him. With his wife or kids, he will not be using his public persona. You don't know him because you met him for a conversation.
It’s great to hear and watch these interviews because we can get more personal with those experience
This should be important for Rokas - since the first video I mentioned - the issue is not Aikido, the issue is how you perform. There are several styles of Aikido, some generate more sloppy techniques than others, but the bottom line is: that it's your responsibility to be critical and to improve your technique, despite the style you're learning or training on.
Super, humble and informative. I respect the work of Both Ryokas and Jesse.
Wow! Thank you! Really loved seeing this balanced and fair video about Steven Seagal. I get so tired of all the videos bagging on him. I know nothing about the various rumors on the internet about him, whether true or not. I just know I always liked his talent and technique and loved his early movies.
Excellent interviews and discussion of Sensei Steven Seagal! From a strictly martial arts related point of view, this is the best, most relevant, most interesting piece on Seagal I have seen in years! It showcases the man talking about and demonstrating what he truly loves and has devoted his life to - genuine martial arts. Well done!
Steven Seagal is completely legit. His movies are definitely over-exaggerated for the action movie crowd and I highly doubt he worked for the CIA like he claims but in terms of his actual martial arts ability, he's as genuine as they get, probably the greatest American Aikido practitioner of all time. Would his techniques translate well in modern day MMA/UFC? Probably not, but when he was in his physical prime he would absolutely hold his own in a fight with most people. Especially given how his style of Aikido is more brutal and direct rather than the softer modern style you see today. Also his first five movies are still great, just ignore the rest.
Thank you. You have returned me belive in Hero of my childrenhood.
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He beats the crap out of stunt men on film sets.
Surprised by how positive this was. Heard so much crap about him but Im surprised to hear another perspective. Thanks for this.
He says himself that Seagal is the producer of his video. He's schilling, very clearly. I don't get how this can be presented as though it's serious.
It is refreshing to see Jesse's respect for steven as i always have because i must admit Steven Seagal was like i strong
Roll model for me in a good way back when i was younger and keeping a stiff up lip for all those bullies that came my way,
First of all I highly respect your work and since I am practicing Aikijutsu myself, I find it very informative too. But the latest news that I heard about Seagal, is that he‘s now off to film a sort of propaganda documentary about the russian side of the Ukraine conflict. Now I really understand the thing about not being interested in someones political pov, but we cannot look away from actions like this. As a martial artist who is so devoted to a peace bringing martial art, reinvented after the massive destruction in Japan after WW2, this takes away all my respect for Seagal. There are many many innocent people dying in this conflict. Supporting war is a crime in my eyes.
As I said Rokas and Jesse I really admire your work and content and don‘t want to blame you at all, but since you are Europeans and have a responsibility as content creators and martial artists too, I needed to say this.
Edit: Besides that multiple women accused Seagal of sexual harassment or assault. There were several lawsuits too.
Exactly. Focusing on the positive side is good and all, but that also means that you're willfully ignoring reality
What makes you think Russia shouldn't be allowed to express their side of the conflict? You do realize Seagal became a Russian citizen, don't you? I think he might even be on friendly terms with Putin, I know they met.
@@varanid9 He is on friendly terms.
Russia HAS expressed their aid
@@varanid9 Seagal is friendly with Putin, and Russia HAS stated publicly their intentions. Putin himself has hearkened back to the good old days of the soviet union (where Ukraine was treated brutally), and has called Ukrainians Neo Nazis as a way to justify his actions.
The Ukrainians have been developing Bio-Weapons, via US Funded Labs. From what has been stated... that was the real reason for the invasion. These labs are developing "genetic-targeted" Viruses. Such as... for example.. targeting only Chinese citizens... in an attempts to vastly reduce the population, and the threat that China poses.
That said, the globalists have no reason to stop at only China. They are more than happy to target US citizens as well.
Huge respect for showing Take Sensei Seagal in a respectful way and showing that there are always two sides to a person and that we always strive for the light.
Domo Arigato .
Thank you for this video. I feel so double edged about Seagal. Brilliant man, humble, friendship with Putin...not so much. Wonderful discussion.
What's wrong with Putin?
I’ve got no problem with Putin, but all the assault allegations on the other hand…
I think the last point Jesse made was perfect to explain why he did that interview and why he didn't ask what everybody else was curious about. 100% agree with that point!
Thank you for all of this. So easy for people to criticize from behind a screen. But reality is never what people think it is. Thank you from a Muay Thai guy.
Probably one of the best Rokas videos…ever. ….less blah blah blah and “I would do this” and second guessing in armchair, sports-based theorizing, and more just asking somebody questions and letting them talk.
here we see Rokas at his most open and thoughtful… and oddly enough, he seems most at peace.
Fun fact: samurai and also knights did go to the ground, because their armor was very effective and if you had only a sword or even a spear, it was really difficult or sometimes even impossible to hurt the samurai or knight, so they grappled him, took a dagger and went staby-staby to the armors weakspots (eyes, armpits, neck, etc.).
So yes, they definitely went to the ground. 👍
Yes, but for exactly that reason, that staby- staby to weakspots is alot easier on the ground, they most often tried not to go to the ground themselves. A standing and moving knight that can threaten with his primary weapon and keep foes at distance is really hard to hurt but once you go to the ground you can easily be dogpiled by 2 or more guys and will potentially be killed or incapacitated.
I dont know about Samurai but for european knights there are alot of incentives to not fall down.
I believe there were instances where they had surrounded armored fighters and were unable to inflict damage on them until the knight was too tired to keep his arms up and surrendered. If that dude falls to the gound it wont take that long no matter what techniques he knows.
That sound super interesting, you have a pointer to where I can read/view more?
I know more about HEMA than traditional Japanese martial arts, but the goal was never to go to the ground like in BJJ in armored fighting. You’d never pull guard. The techniques resembled wrestling or Judo more, with takedowns and maintaining top position to use a dagger.
Now of course that means one of them had to be in bottom position, but the treatises about armored fighting have a lot more to say about stand up grappling/clinching than on the ground.
@@Garnichgutt if you throuw your oponent on the ground in armor the inpact alone is probebaly enough to take them out the fught fir a while its also easier to get to the weak spots in armir if your opponent is on the ground and you are above him
In Medieval combat, we know of ground fighting not only from many detailed accounts, we know that people perceived it as highly important and we have manuals teaching Medieval combat grappling. Daggers play OF COURSE a big part of that sort of grappling. They also focused on completely unarmed grappling. So, would BJJ be a complete representation of the grappling that knights/samurai might have been training for? No, of course it is not complete. It is a grappling art and that alone makes it "incomplete". It just focuses on one aspect for means of specialization. They would also train swordfighting by just focusing on swordfighting. Because modular training works better. In other sessions, you do integrative training. Bruce Lee said he fears the man who trained one kick 10,000 times, not the man trained 10,000 kicks once. That doesn't mean that one kick is sufficient or that there isn't a benefit to knowing more than one kick, it means that he values mastery of a skill over quantity. That is something you achieve by having modular training with a narrow focus.
He treated stunt men really badly theirs no excuse for continuously injuring stunt men. It’s ego or lack of control.
The one person who met Segal who thinks he is alright.
Probably because they talked exclusively martial arts and because Jesse is maybe a little too pure-hearted for his own good at times.
It's because Seagal invited him for a healthy dinner. "Oh, Steven is such a good person."...
Jesse can be so fun and playful but also mature and intelligent. Amazing insight. Always look at both sides of the coin.
The problem with meeting seagal is that he is known for lying, so anything he says you should take with a huge grain of salt. So even the whole thyroid thing could be b.s.
Or maybe not.... you watch to many youtube hate videos
Two nice and humble guys. I like both your channels a lot!
I worked with him in China when he was shooting a movie with Tyson. Him and Tyson never fought, it was always the actor fighting the stunt double of the other actor ( for ego reason). Then Steven Seagal was stealing all of the Oreo from catering for himself. His bodyguard ( a British dude) was super funny, he told us of all the shitty things Steven was doing. Hilarious.
can you elaborate some of these stories :) ?
That craft services table, man... after being on some sets... those Oreos are always the most precious commodity. Seagal knew what was up.
Can you extend this funny info please?
It's finally nice to hear something positive about Steven Seagal. The only thing that I've heard in the last 10 or more years is his weight. I've never seen him as being so bad and seriously couldn't understand the extreme criticism. This is an honest video thanks to Jesse.
This is crazy nice to Steven.
The issue I have is that by staying on topic about martial arts is that it ignore all of who he is as a person.
I saw the Steven Seagal clip with Jesse. It's pretty cool. Exactly how I imagined it would be. Seagal probably sees 'disrespect' better than he sees 'respect.' And not because people don't respect him in person, but because it's incomprehensible, for someone with his stature, 'real' or imagined. If you're young-ish, you need to be around a teacher who embodies this type of confidence, intelligence, and dedication. I would say Jesse is a bit advanced and bit old for how Seagal went about showing him his stuff, but realistically, if Seagal reaches out to you, it's kinda a proposition you cannot refuse, regardless of age. Seagal chose Jesse for a reason and obviously is a good judge of character. Anyone, who has good judgement, is the furthest thing from a 'hack.' Most people, who say stuff about Seagal, want 'warrior reality' to be a concrete, fixed idea and visual. It's never that way, although this idea of how big the 'fight' is in YOU, which determines how great a warrior you are, is 100 percent false. You are or you aren't.
That was really interesting hearing about your experience and it answers a lot of the gossip about Steven Seagal. Great interview!
Ya all remember the episode where SS was involved in MMA, proclaiming that he was the guy who thought Silva and Lioto had that infamous front leg kick, and he wanted all the credit for.
Don't you know Steven Seagal basically invented karate and most other martial arts? According to himself of course.
The fuckers who did this video didn't ask Seagal a single hard hitting question.
Lyoto admitted himself that he practiced the kick with SS
@@uprollsariotvan he also said that he has been doing that kick all his life.
Machida thought it would be a funny joke to let Seagal meddle a bit, not knowing Seagal is a delusional narcissist that would immediately try to use it for personal gain and glory.
@@uprollsariotvan he didn't admit that at all there's literally an interview with Enkamp where he interviews Lioto and Lioto says he showed it to SS who promptly gave his "expert advice". Followed by a clip of Steven Seagal spewing his usual bull this time claiming that they worked very hard on it together for a long time. You paedophile/sexual abuser/slaver apologists are ridiculous
I have a lot of respect for both of you, but come on, overlooking the serious allegations and controversies of this man is getting kinda rediculous now. Overlooking a person's personal life and politics is one thing, but when that person has been involved in multiple sexual assault cases and is a close friend of a fascist dictator who is literally bombing civilians as we speak, continuing to give him positive coverage is pretty bloody tactless.
Take a pill.
Part 2: Im going to add another thing... If you choose to want to try to "Cancel" people that you do not like, or SUSPECT that they did something wrong... then you do realize... how Slippery of a Slope that such a thing is... right?
Every Radical Tyrant, has used the same type of "Justifications", to inflict punishment, or lethality, to anyone that goes against their will. Anyone that presents a HINT of "Speculation" ,can easily be thrown into a prison camp... and be tortured, and left to rot away, in a dark cell / labor camp.. or be used for "Organ" harvesting.
China's MAO, radicalized the children within the schools... as young as 3 yrs old. Eventually, he unleased them as his own personal army... with so called "Good Intentions". Except that... nobody good, radicalizes Children. Over 70 million Chinese lives were lost, in his "Cultural Revolution". And far more suffered, from this period in their History. In fact, they still suffer, due to the unfairness, quality of life, lack of freedoms, lack of human rights, and other Oppressions that their Rulers impress upon them.
Realize, that being a Radical foot-soldier... does not grant you any special immunity from the higher ups. All "Useful Idiots", will eventually be on the chopping block as well. You never make a deal with the Devils.
" A Fascist dictator who is bombing civilians" 😅
Are we talking about American presidents or maybe British politicians, give us a hint please. 😄
@@andrejatodorovic4094 I guess pretty much all heads in the government, regardless of nationality, end up pulling some tyrannical shit.
@@andrejatodorovic4094 lol, she must be talking about Bush, jr. Or Bush, sr. Or maybe Clinton. Not Obama, though; he just bombed his own citizens.
2:22 If his medicine is prednisone then i sympathize. Im also on it & doctors dont EVER warn you of how it will affect your hunger. It makes you super hungry. You could eat a full course meal to the point that you cant even move & you take one tiny pill & your hungry again. Its how i got super fat too. The secret is to take it at night just before going to bed. Its helped me a lot.
Guys this is getting embarrassing now... Like neither of you are seriously going to address the actual allegations? He spent all this time with someone that's assaulted multiple women throughout the course of his career, and then he's going to play it off like: "Well, I don't care about his political views." ...Right, okay brother.
Because this was about his martial arts knowledge. If you want a video on character assassination there are 6 billion other videos you can check out.
@@macleod1592 besides the fact that validating a known scumbag is just wrong, the martial arts aspect is that he's a fraud in that department too.
@@macleod1592being about martial arts is not a legit justification for platforming a rapist. If anything it makes you complicit to an extent on allowing the perpetrator to get away with it.
I don’t understand the hate so many have towards Mr. Seagal. I have huge respect towards him. Thank you Jesse for what you do, and for this video Martial Arts Journey.
Jesse is the only guy I respect that is actually fooled by Seagal's antics. Aside from the toxic mcdojo shit he throws out there... He's right now being a puppet for Putin in his war on Ukraine.
Amazing interview. Steven Seagal is receiving lots of criticism, but with my experience, many of his techniques are legit.
He also used people to the point of criminality. To me, his weight symbolizes his gluttonous nature of consuming everything he wants without consideration. Those who stay near him want something out of him, and he knows that. It’s interesting that he reached out to you for the interview. Be careful
lol right? How hard would it be for a narcissistic and pathological liar to manipulate an interviewer by playing the 'nice guy' for a day? Were talking about a man who bastardized Buddhism and literally claimed to be a god after lying and cheating his way in and out of Hollywood. I found this interview pretty hard to stomach knowing everything I know about Steven. Sure, you could probably learn some legit moves from him, but there are plenty of legit, non-sociopathic martial artists who could sub Steven even back in his glory days. I tried looking at this from an unbiased, objective perspective, but I'm just not buying it.
"Steven Seagal became the Executive Producer of my UA-cam video." That's great! How lucky you are. I really enjoyed this report. Thanks. Oss.
Anything to get clicks... Of course, if this was a video about anyone else training with Seagal, you'd have nothing good to say, as usual. However, since it's Jesse, even stuff that you used to be very vocal about gets a pass.
What never fails to surprise me is how anyone is still buying into your whole schtick after you yourself went back on your own "revelations" countless times, not to mention the obvious prejudice you seem to have, as well as a very superficial and often times condescending approach to anything that doesn't conform to that prejudice that you take whenever talking about and "trying" things that fit that description.
Then again, it is UA-cam.
People are overdoing the claims of Seagal being fake, not a single one of his accusers has evidence. We all practice japanese arts, the founder of Judo experienced the ability of the founder of Aikido and called him a true Budo. I think Steven Seagal is genuine and studied Aikido pretty well, not unless you can pass through multiple attackers can you know Aikido like he does. But I think he does have a personality disorder, but then again, who doesn't? Thyroid cancer and complications were common in the 50s and 60s, especially after the bombings in Japan and numerous nuclear tests and crude power generators around the places Seagal grew up and frequented. He developed Narcissistic traits but from my martial arts experience and perspective, I think he is legit.
You guys are really inspiring! Thanks for another awesome piece! 👍
No matter the bad rep he has, sounds like a great guy.
Mr Segal's movements are assertive, smooth and quick. This is the product of focused repetition, the hallmark of a dedicated martial artist. This observation comes to mind every time i hear people bad mouth him. Are they devoted martial artists like us? Much respect sir. thank you
I'm a lifelong martial artist, and I'm a martial arts nerd in my own way. I see Seagal for the liar he is and from your words I got the impression that you're the typical delusional type of martial artist, calling realistic and sceptical martial artists 'not real/devoted/respectful/'and all that crap. Correct me if I'm wrong in my conclusion (but prove it), but If you think you're some sort of modern samurai and you're accusing critical martial artists of not having enough 'respect' or 'devotion' or such things, I already know you're delusional.
He's a dedicated liar too.
that was great to hear from Jesse...a lot of really interesting points...another insight into Steven Seagal......loved Jesse's positiveness.. well said and Thanks for the post!!
That time when he badmouthed Van Damme and Van Damme challenged him 2 times and Seagal ran away, was most confident move.
Assume you have a heated argument with someone... and his decision is to go outside and punch each other in the face; would that be the preferred and civilised way to conclude a dispute or argument? Do we solve our arguments only by fighting? Or would people admire you to avoid the fight?
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Seagull was saying he could kick JCVD a$$. JCVD asked him politely to prove it.
Nothing wrong with that.
Interesting, most people bashing him obviously didn't meet him in person or even had knowledge about martial arts, good to see opinion of someone unbiased.
There's something few people know of Steven Seagal: He's a Vajrayana Practitioner(or was) and was recognized a tulku of the famous 17th Century tertön Chungdrag Dorje. His philosophy of on self defense and martial arts that talked with Jesse is straight on the Vajrayana Buddhism takes on these things. Despite his reputation and his actor past, he's the real deal.
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Lol just stop.
Steven Seagal is a Classic Hollywood Action Hero - for all time. - Period.
So nice to hear positive things being said about Steven Seagal for a change instead of the negativity that has seemed to surround him in recent years. Awesome!
Yeah, I wonder what's the reason for all the negativity! What could it be! Absolutely no idea! :D
@@bloodwynn his love of Putin and sexual harassment behavior.
However it is great to hear positive things about him and understand more about the kind of guy he has evolved into
I mean there isn't much positive you can say about an abusive rapist who trafficks women for sex.
@@Berengier817 there's a lot more than just those things. Some of it has been pointed out in the comments, and yet there's still more and more.
There's nothing admirable about that pos.
Hitting stunt people, raping women and endorsing dictators more than just "negativity". Im sorry that inconveniences you. Im sure his victims also feel like it kinda sucks
The way segal practices and studies is the way I learned the self defense aikido system for military and security use. They sometimes call it hard style aikido. I studied aikido and aikijujutsu. The samurai way. Although there is focus on using minimal force necessary and conserving energy. You also use the necessary level of force as needed to deal with a threat. Also you are supposed to learn taijutsu alongside aikido, just like you learned jojutsu and kenjutsu. Taijutsu means body skills, and refers to physical strikes, tumbling, and conditioning.
Excellent video. Really enjoy listening to you guys chat so openly about a subject we all love.
I love how Jesse bring seagal into the light. So many ignorant people out there who don't know how legit seagal really is...
Interesting video, one problem.. the samurai didn't wear heavy armor and even the European knights in their full sheets of metal weren't as heavy as we're lead to believe..
Chainmail can be rather heavy, but other than that armor throughout history was designed around movement of the warrior wearing it.
Full European mediaeval plate armour was around 10lbs lighter than a full set of yoroi. The latter could be around 65lbs.
@@BigStibYoroi was more of a ceremonial armour . Not for practical fighting .
And Full set Plate armour was much heavier .
Big fan of Jessie and Rokus. Great stuff in the video as usual.
The only criticism of Segal mentioned here was that he hits stuntmen too hard...
That's criminally understating his past. Propoganda-level cherry-picking of data. I'm not condemning Segal, but it's very dissapointing to see such emphasis put on white-washing his troubled past and present. You could have handled it just as ameanably without demeaning the severity of his actions, both alleged and confirmed.
I see your point and I agree that part of it could be addressed in some way, but I do believe that Jesse addressed this point at the end by saying that he divides someone's personal life and their experience and knowledge as a martial artist
@@MartialArtsJourney I'm glad to see you respond mature and humbly, that's what I expect from you. You're a bit of a hero now.
Yeah I agree it is adressing it, I don't argue it's a valid point in general. However this is a special case: You two are famous and exerting authority on a worldwide audience.
Even if you don't condone something, if you address it and then dismiss it you are, to some degree, enabling it. So make sure you understand what it is you are enabling.
You two are bringing such good to this world with the power of your fame, just be very cautious of your actions so that they do not cause harm.
I love you both, sincerely. Thank you for all you've done, and keep it up!
@@MartialArtsJourney Putin is also a martial artist. A better one than Seagal IMO, Jesse should interview him too.
I really enjoy Jesse's content and I respect a lot of what he does and how he does it, but this was just sickening.
Somehow expected you to be more critical as well.
@@MartialArtsJourney Did you guys talk about it how good he thinks, Seagal is really? Many ask for it but no reply ever to it. Not that I would be too interested myself. From existing video footage it can be seen, that Seagal is real deal, no matter if liking his personality or not. The way he moves and does techniques show clearly, that he has done thousands after thousands repeats, which is demanded to become top level in what he does. He is without any doubt a dangerous guy to fight. Then again what would happen against some orher top class fighters is another thing. But some "average Joe" shouldn't try his luck. There are old bullshido "masters" who are useless in real situations, Seagal isn't one of them. I have fought real fights so to say as security worker, no rules, as in dojo and in the ring. Still I wouldn't try my luck with someone like Seagal even though his personality is questionable. And his hand movement etc. That guy is fast. And fast guy who knows what he is doing is dangerous.
Did you ask him about how Steven Seagall spars and whether he sparred with him? I was wondering if he can actually pull off any of the stuff he demonstrated.
I was thinking the same thing
Of course he can't.
@@chintoki Dont rule out anything before you've seen it. We havent seen Steven Seagall spar - that does not mean he dosent.
He probably could, but Seagal lives in the desert and is 70 years old this year. Sparring hard the way a 20-year-old competitor would want to isn’t gonna be on his list of options.
@@garethharker3813 Sparring light is always an option.
This meeting you had and just what you discussed on this episode is totally 100% on point. Some of us have known it for years... What is called Akido, as practiced world wide is not the same art as Seagal practices. The distance and timing, along with the intent is all wrong... To add more rabbit holes, there is supposed to not be any Aiki Jutsu, only Diato Ryu... when there are families that practice AikiJutsu. like Yanagi Ryu.
Stephen is absolutely correct about the ground, and now that Don Angier passed some time ago I do not know of any other Non-Japanese Aikia practicioners with the depth of insight that Stephen brings to the table.
Thanks for both of you