Trendy Sava Mala only existed for a few years. In the early 2000s the area was considered a dump by most Belgraders. The Arty types moved in because it was cheap and yet very central. A few years later the big money of Belgrade Waterfront arrived and prices rose. There are plenty of other rundown Belgrade neighbourhoods for the Artists to colonise.
I was just talking about Burrito Madre a couple days ago and how I miss it even though it is not like "authentic" still really love that place. I did not know they had multiple locations. Thanks for the content on Belgrade hoping to be there again next summer. Hoping to find me a place outside the city like you did when I come back.
Hope those shops will be reopened soon, because we do have a lot to offer. I totally get what you are talking about. In the end there is a true, genuine content that we are all longing for not a fancy emptiness, hopefully we can have it both. Two days ago I was in Brooklyn, Smith street, I would love to see something similar.
What Savamala, there was like garbage dump site with abandoned warehouses and storages. Good that they removed and build useful promenade and with new city district.
Belgrade still has a lot of old, crumbling streets that may look attractive and like having certain atmosphere to nostalgic individuals, and too many for sure. So, tearing some of them down could only do good for the city. Savamala was just a moment in the time continuum that could not survive in any system. Maybe the initial ideas were sort of alternative, but soon they turned into grabbing more and more money with expensive cars filling the street in the evenings and paying extra for a parking space to shady individuals. I do not see anything alternative anywhere in European big and touristy cities. Why and how should it be there in Belgrade?
Sure it is.not only Sava Mala but whole Belgrade especially old town ..Its terrible development done with little town & urban planning...High rise building is not right place for such position.Its just hungry money(foreign) investors who dont give a sh..t for Serbia and Belgrade heritage.But C7rrent Serbisn government either.Obviously done by ppl who dont have any knowledge in planning..Its shame and its ugliest development that can be done.BTW that kind of buildings are not popular anymore anywhere in the West as other countries look like for more sustainable developments.
I think you deserve more spectators and the only way to do it is to modernize. I am seeing more and more vloggers rotating their vlog cameras away from them and actually shooting the very subjects of their vlog existence. Try it for a few months, focusing on Belgrade, and see the result. If the result is not at least 2 times more views and 2 times more subscribers then I say go back to classical me-vlogging.
😂😂😂😂 Sorry, BeglradeBeat Eric. This is kind true. Americanization was also that hipster haven in SavaMala (altough I liked it I must admit), because SavaMala as Eric remebers it was not that traditional. In that hipster form existed like maybe not even 7-8 years. Just another side of a coin. But, its always like this when they building somethin' new. Eric is moved by nostalgie. Does this mean you are movin/leavin Belgrade!?
I agree totaly with you, Eric. Independent art and culture are ruined. Bigz is dead, Savamala is dead.... It's not much better with official culture too. Everything is money and reality now. Come to Novi Sad. There's Kaleidoskop kulture on a beginning of September. Maybe you'll find something interesting.
I'm not sure that bars and shops in Karadjordjeva Street are closed because of BW, perhaps because of the Islamic migrants who have gathered there in recent years, many avoid the area.
The way I see it is this, if you are the leader of a country and your job is to raise the economic output and standard of living, then to have a project like Belgrade Waterfront is the better of the alternative of having nobody interested to do such a project. It's a sign that capital wants to come to your country and invest and it is something that will attract more people with capital who have business know-how and will increase the entrepreneurship and economic activity of the country. It's great for Belgrade to be a hipster poor place but part of the maturation process and the process of economic growth is to have some fancier architecture/areas, it will drive out some of the hipster element but like I said it's a sign of economic progress which is going to on net increase the economic output, wages, wealth and standard of living of the country, I support it.
You obviously dont know nothing about town planning or architecture and you just talking empty talks about prosperity economic development etc...its empty talk by ppl who dont know for better and not really good in economic either...buildings are ugly that ugliest can not be.Ppl who coming in Belgrade dont want to come to look in the same sh..t as everywhere else in the world.They looking for authentic unique town feel .I should say that most ppl who was part of athomesfere left the country and only ppl like you left -one minded.
@@BelgradeBeat if you have money, now would be a good time to buy up some properties in belgrade while its still affordable because in near future its probably gonna be very expensive and those that have property there will be able to make alot of money renting it out or selling it. Serbia is in very strategic place, its where east meets west, plus its not that far away from africa so its like in the center of the world and perfect base for people that like to travel and can access 3 different continents fast. Its why all the empires of the past fought over it and why dozens of roman emperors were born there. The problem is that its been under constant war and conflict for 1000s of years, even in recent history with world war 1 and world war 2, and communism, and yugoslavia civil war, and kosovo war, and NATO attacks and sanctions etc, Serbia never really had any peace and time to fully develop. But now that peace has arrived, you are gonna see bunch of people from both east and west moving in and investing and I predict in the future its probably gonna become the most important region in Europe. There is alot of money to be made for early investors.
Trendy Sava Mala only existed for a few years. In the early 2000s the area was considered a dump by most Belgraders. The Arty types moved in because it was cheap and yet very central. A few years later the big money of Belgrade Waterfront arrived and prices rose. There are plenty of other rundown Belgrade neighbourhoods for the Artists to colonise.
I think it looks nice now I heard it was basically a dump before why would people complain.
I miss Savamala. I was djing there between 2014-16 and it was a cool, relaxed neighbourhood.
I was just talking about Burrito Madre a couple days ago and how I miss it even though it is not like "authentic" still really love that place. I did not know they had multiple locations. Thanks for the content on Belgrade hoping to be there again next summer. Hoping to find me a place outside the city like you did when I come back.
They have lots now!!!! you'll be happy when you come because they're in more places around town, in shopping malls etc.
@@BelgradeBeat Go to Casa Tortilla in Cika Ljubina city center much better alternative of Mexican food
Svaka cast! You bring it to the point my friend..thats was going on ther is not right 🤮 keep up the good work sir
Hope those shops will be reopened soon, because we do have a lot to offer. I totally get what you are talking about. In the end there is a true, genuine content that we are all longing for not a fancy emptiness, hopefully we can have it both. Two days ago I was in Brooklyn, Smith street, I would love to see something similar.
yeah... the city has lots is map of culture in a certain way.... still lots of cool bars, but i don't see where it's going.
What Savamala, there was like garbage dump site with abandoned warehouses and storages. Good that they removed and build useful promenade and with new city district.
well said
Belgrade still has a lot of old, crumbling streets that may look attractive and like having certain atmosphere to nostalgic individuals, and too many for sure. So, tearing some of them down could only do good for the city. Savamala was just a moment in the time continuum that could not survive in any system. Maybe the initial ideas were sort of alternative, but soon they turned into grabbing more and more money with expensive cars filling the street in the evenings and paying extra for a parking space to shady individuals.
I do not see anything alternative anywhere in European big and touristy cities. Why and how should it be there in Belgrade?
Sure it is.not only Sava Mala but whole Belgrade especially old town ..Its terrible development done with little town & urban planning...High rise building is not right place for such position.Its just hungry money(foreign) investors who dont give a sh..t for Serbia and Belgrade heritage.But C7rrent Serbisn government either.Obviously done by ppl who dont have any knowledge in planning..Its shame and its ugliest development that can be done.BTW that kind of buildings are not popular anymore anywhere in the West as other countries look like for more sustainable developments.
Gentrification
I think you deserve more spectators and the only way to do it is to modernize. I am seeing more and more vloggers rotating their vlog cameras away from them and actually shooting the very subjects of their vlog existence. Try it for a few months, focusing on Belgrade, and see the result. If the result is not at least 2 times more views and 2 times more subscribers then I say go back to classical me-vlogging.
You got it too.
Alternative title: Erik laments the de-hipsterization of Savamala
😂😂😂😂 Sorry, BeglradeBeat Eric. This is kind true.
Americanization was also that hipster haven in SavaMala (altough I liked it I must admit), because SavaMala as Eric remebers it was not that traditional. In that hipster form existed like maybe not even 7-8 years. Just another side of a coin.
But, its always like this when they building somethin' new.
Eric is moved by nostalgie.
Does this mean you are movin/leavin Belgrade!?
@@milansavic2803 What was it like 20-30 years ago?
Sava Mala is not the same bow for already 4-5 years. This didn't start yesterday.
Mil Savich, cryptojewea
I agree totaly with you, Eric. Independent art and culture are ruined. Bigz is dead, Savamala is dead.... It's not much better with official culture too. Everything is money and reality now.
Come to Novi Sad. There's Kaleidoskop kulture on a beginning of September. Maybe you'll find something interesting.
I'm not sure that bars and shops in Karadjordjeva Street are closed because of BW, perhaps because of the Islamic migrants who have gathered there in recent years, many avoid the area.
The way I see it is this, if you are the leader of a country and your job is to raise the economic output and standard of living, then to have a project like Belgrade Waterfront is the better of the alternative of having nobody interested to do such a project. It's a sign that capital wants to come to your country and invest and it is something that will attract more people with capital who have business know-how and will increase the entrepreneurship and economic activity of the country. It's great for Belgrade to be a hipster poor place but part of the maturation process and the process of economic growth is to have some fancier architecture/areas, it will drive out some of the hipster element but like I said it's a sign of economic progress which is going to on net increase the economic output, wages, wealth and standard of living of the country, I support it.
that's all true. i'm just taking one perspective here which is personal to me. i can do another video with the other perspective later :)
Belgrade waterfront is a sign of money laundering. It will do nothing to help Belgrade or the people who live here.
@@heatherl6107 exactly .
You obviously dont know nothing about town planning or architecture and you just talking empty talks about prosperity economic development etc...its empty talk by ppl who dont know for better and not really good in economic either...buildings are ugly that ugliest can not be.Ppl who coming in Belgrade dont want to come to look in the same sh..t as everywhere else in the world.They looking for authentic unique town feel .I should say that most ppl who was part of athomesfere left the country and only ppl like you left -one minded.
@@BelgradeBeat if you have money, now would be a good time to buy up some properties in belgrade while its still affordable because in near future its probably gonna be very expensive and those that have property there will be able to make alot of money renting it out or selling it. Serbia is in very strategic place, its where east meets west, plus its not that far away from africa so its like in the center of the world and perfect base for people that like to travel and can access 3 different continents fast. Its why all the empires of the past fought over it and why dozens of roman emperors were born there. The problem is that its been under constant war and conflict for 1000s of years, even in recent history with world war 1 and world war 2, and communism, and yugoslavia civil war, and kosovo war, and NATO attacks and sanctions etc, Serbia never really had any peace and time to fully develop. But now that peace has arrived, you are gonna see bunch of people from both east and west moving in and investing and I predict in the future its probably gonna become the most important region in Europe. There is alot of money to be made for early investors.
This part of Sava Mala, in the vicinity of so called Spanish house, under Brankov most, is not even part of BW.
of course it is not, it has been destroyed
Modernization and money removing the soul of Serbia. I hate it.
your really need to get a better camera.
i have one which I use on my other channel Rising Nomad.. this was just spontaneous :)
Sorry bro, I am a corporate drone, I say bring on the gentrification, let's raise the economic output and standard of living.
Bcause ypu dont know for better
What’s the opposite to that? Decay and poverty.