Transgender: Back to Jamaica | BBC Newsbeat
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Newsbeat follows two transgender friends on a life changing journey to one of the most transphobic countries in the world. Steffan and Romario, both now living in the UK, travel back to Jamaica to reveal their new identities to their families.
Despite the potential risks and not knowing how their relatives will react, the friends are determined to be open about who they are.
Subscribe to our channel: goo.gl/FHXbqA
Much more at www.bbc.co.uk/n...
Produced by: Karlene Pinnock and Declan Harvey
Series Producer: Jonathan Blake
Newsbeat Editor: Debbie Ramsay
Facebook: / bbcnewsbeat
Twitter: / bbcnewsbeat
Instagram: / bbcnewsbeat
They should have used a hidden camera to capture the reactions... I bet you if they didn't see the camera it would haven been a completely different reaction
No I think that they really miss their family members I would miss my family member no matter what they decided to do with themselves if they wanted to transgender or transition to whatever they wanted to transition to I would still love them I'd have a lot of questions but I still would love them
Sure right bout DAT
yeah im African and our ppl like to put on a front for foreign cameras sometimes lol. but as you can see the sister stayed true to her values while still showing acceptance & love, and the other one his mother refused to be filmed i guess, it was probably too much for her.
His father was very emotional you can't get more real than that if anything because of the stigma they wouldn't want people to see them accepting their family members
I believe your right because while vacationing there a girl started dancing with another girl and the DJ cut the music and started yelling at her saying she was disrespectful.
I'm sorry but when Steffen was talking his older brother was looking like who the fuck is this lmao😂
Deirdre Bodrick I dead tpccc😂😂😂😂
Deirdre Bodrick true
ifkr that hug tho
Deirdre Bodrick brother??? More like grandpa.
Deirdre Bodrick I am here dying because of Steffen's brother's face expression 😂😂😂think I'm laughing too hard
they brave tho for even stepping foot back in jamaica
well as the documentary said, female homosexuals are more accepted. if they were male trying to change to females, this would be extremely interesting to watch. it would be completely different.
@@iiiMUNiiiQUE gay, transgender, it doesn't matter jamaica has a church in walking distance almost everywhere. A gay guy in jamaica had to call the cops to leave his house because of a mob outside. Don't get me wrong i love Jamaica and I wouldn't change being jamaican but most jamaican's se that if it's not gods way it's not the right way.
Right
@@jhenellereid7178 and that's a good thing. Not a bad thing. Don't be ashamed of that. God will bless Jamaica for holding his law
@@jadeacampbell5206 Trust me when I say I am not ashamed
First of all, the Jamaican people (their family) are only behaving like this because they are infront the camera ... this is a fake covered reaction , if the cameras were off it would be totally different 😐🤨
EDIT : 5 years later I'm rewatching this and realize the reactions may actually be genuine. Not everyone think the same and as time goes by Jamaicans become more accepting.
Nella Bella As a Jamaican i agree with you
Nella Bella what would've happened?
Nella Bella. I agree with you, it would be a different reaction. They would be saying wat da bloodclot dis. Dis sum pure fucker ya dill wit.
Dana Melette 😂😂😂
Nella Bella DAT a true
I would have never believed they were both girls
Really lol
Me neither
makeabitchbleed you’ll find it’s not attractive women who turns into men
TehMixqa
Yeah they be ugly AF
TehMixqa I strongly disagree with that ignorant statement
They definitely had me flabbergasted. I initially thought they were gay men.
R Bizness technically they are
R Bizness I was just trying to guess who was who and I was shocked to know they both use to be females too!!!
Same!!
Same
So did i
steffen's brother looking at him like WTF is he talking about😂
lmao right. hes from a different time, the age gap there is shocking too. he probably never imagined he would ever see a transgender in his lifetime.
Sex outside of marriage is a major sin...mentioned 140 times in the bible...apparently nobody pays attention to that...hell is gonna be overcrowded lol
David Ramos omg I always said that, sex before marriage is such a sin also, why isn't everyone married??
David Ramos there's no such thing as a "major" sin all sin is equal
You scared me seriously
Jesus was a jew - Jews don't believe in hell.
GOD IS A FORGIVING GOD
romario's dad is so sweet, "i am never disgusted by you, i am too open-minded for that..."
Jamaica is a nice place, but you can't expect it to change its views on homosexuality
um... jamaicans are cool people but to be fair its a 3rd world country with a handful of good resorts away from the regular folk. its views are rooted in religion and christianity thrives in poverty.
Lechiffresix six yes we know, it was explained on the show
***** no you can't, just look at places like the middle east and america
its that god rubbish that had us enslaved for so long, the bible, complete rubbish.
***** Ayanna change their heart into what though ? come Ayanna don't try to be sly, spill it out
So, when I wear an Obama mask for halloween, does that make me the President?
+Jake Jones do you feel internally that you are obama?
+JoshTheGreat Damn straight! So why don't I get to live in the White House?
you tell me
+JoshTheGreat Oh I don't know. Maybe because I am NOT the President?
lmao you're the one that said damn straight you're obama...make up your mind bud
That old man was so shocked he couldn't talk.
Cah he was uncomfortable. That's how it is in my culture 👏🏼💯
jah know the lder was boiling inside she better thank god for the camera lol
I am so confused, if the both of you were born women ,and wanted to be a men,then how are you attracted to each other. If you were born a female and are attracted to a Woman portraying a male then why not be straight and be with a male? Or perhaps a feminine male?? Why change yourself to a man to be with a man why not be the woman and be with a man?
@Msfitamazon these two men don't have to be a straight female to like men, in fact ma'am alot of transmen in the world prefers to date men and alot of transwomen in the world prefers to date women. It's all about love ma'am
I used to wonder the same thing until I learned gender identity and sexual preference are two different things.
+charlene adkins that's right miss adkins
your gender identity and your sexual preference are not the same thing. just because you are a woman doesn't mean you want to be with a man...just cause you are a man doesnt mean you want to be with a woman. they could both be bi or pansexual. gender does not dictate sexuality
Won't get pregnant if ya with a woman
Did the families just "accept " them because they were being filmed
honeymoon probably
good question
SAYING ACCEPT IS ALL I GOT!! but its better than nothing. Funny how the dad was violent (to his daughter) just rubbish #abusive
I believe so
Has to be
Just because a person choose to be transgender does not mean that people have to accept your choice. If a person says I don't believe that what you're doing is right but I love you anyway that should be enough for that person. But some people want you to lie and say that they agree with it when they don't. If that's what you choose then so be it but don't force your believe on someone else
Latisha Beaugard juss becau someone has aids don’t mean they have to spread it u ass
I'm thinking the same.Your choice so live it and don't force people to accept it.
Just because someone has a different lifestyle to you that doesn't give you the right to put them down for being them. What part of the video were the 2 men forcing any of the people to accept them
Religious people force their beliefs on others all the time but u don't hear people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender etc. condemning religious people for what they believe in
@@legendhasitgenocide456 this is a video about two transgendered MEN so what was your point in saying real women have wombs
If you are going to tell the story tell the whole story as to WHY Jamaica is allegedly one of the most intolerant to anything related to LGBTQ. iIt is a deep sickening scar.
agree....
yes. it's because europeans forced their buggery laws and religion onto the slaves. also because they bred slaves on jamaica and if slaves were homosexual, they wouldn't be doing their job of breeding.
Zannnnah Jamaica is a fucked up place
+lavishio celestine plz dont say that o live here and its the land of my place tell me that when live and go there thanks
Amelia Miller I will never want to visit the media is juss enough.. cuz it's Jamaicans them self that perpetrate the agenda
I am from Jamaica and i know that was extremely hard for them....especially not knowing if u will b accepted......its not my job to judge anyone...let ye without sin cast the first stone
truth..he who is without sin should cast the first stone
+Tyechia McLean-Blair | Ok if you wanna use bible quotes, do you remember this one: "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done."
Or perhaps you only use the verses that are convenient for you?
+Keno Clayton (ThePlayMaker) seeing as you wanna use bible quotes...read the book of revelation. ..it says that fornication will enter lake of fire...
my problem as a black person from the black community is how people focus on homosexyality like that is the only sin...what about fornication?? is that not a sin. the same people persecuting homosexyality need to check their own lives and bedrooms and check they're right with God before they start checking over people.
+Natasha C hence why I said..he who is without sin should cast the first stone. and furthermore judge not and he will not be judged.
Natasha C
I'm not ignoring fornication or any of the other sins. I never said they were right, nor have I told anyone that it's ok. However that doesn't mean we must ignore 1 sin just because other sins exist.
The oldest brother looked like he was going to slap him. You can tell he was pissed.
I didn’t get that vibe 🤷🏼♀️
I am Jamaica born and bread... I'm shock myself, as in they were girl now going to meet their family as men.. Jamaicans are not open minded like that.. to be honest I'm actually frighten for them... as in Jamaica they will never accept that, worst the situation is so confusing.. Jamaicans dont really think in dept like that...
"Jamaicans don't really think in depth like that." Do not out the whole country in that category. smh
Maybe you don't think in depth like that! Who are you to speak on everyone's behalf????? Not every Jamaican is the same!!!
Shane Pinnock do you know Jason Pinnock from MoBay?
You are so wrong. Jamaicans are more tolerant now. Gay people go about their business most places and I don't see anyone harassing them.
Shane Pinnock , What is the song at 5:14?
Woah, I'm only 30 seconds in and thought this was a joke, because they truely look like men, would never think they're trans
AbsolutelyRuwaydah dddgryuii🐜🐴
AbsolutelyRuwaydah k
Transam? You must be blind
Because of chemical it not haw they born disgusting even they don’t like their self haw they won’t others to support them .
The placement of fat around the face is often a good give away. They tend to have more fat around the cheek area.
Before they even got to Jamaica, when they mentioned it I was like oh there's gonna be some crazy reactions to this. Maybe this is why they filmed it because they knew family would act up.
Yup exactly
Lawwdddd they would've had me fooled!
The Shanell Complex SAME LMFAO
R
***** YES, I thought the same!
...I don't see how, really. No brow ridges or adam's apples, small hands, slender, feminine-like fingers, hips wider than shoulders, walking in a somewhat feminine manner...Good for them being happy with
themselves now, but these two aren't as masculine as you or they think.
Sure.... because all males in the world look very very masculin....
Aaron Degley those aren't always giveaways of a person's sex. I'm a man. I haven't taken hormones (yet) but I don't have a pronounced adam's apple or big hands. People take me for a girl at first glance every time.
I can't find money to pay my bills and they can find money for a transition! I really don't have my shit together!
Lol, that's funny. No you got it together. You're trying and it's hard out here. Apts high as a kite gas, food going up but at the end of the day thank God I am a real woman and I thank God for men. Nothing I mean nothing like the real thing.
I know..how is this possible ?? Can't even get steroids to work out with..? There are way too many common people transitioning..
Love Yu2 the reason for people being able to transition. There are so many programs and medical insurance pays for these medications and surgeries.
ngina copeland
What you hell I.can't even get decent non expensive dental coverage, but they can change their sex for free
There are some free programs out there and the UK is a lot more open and cheaper than most countries.
GOD IS REAL!!!!!! GOD IS NOT PLEASED WITH ALOT THATS GOING ON....GET READY FOR THE RETURN SOON!!!!!! I PRAISE GOD AND FOREVER WILL!!! I PRAY FOR THE LOST SOULS
Tanya Williams you’re a dumb ass brainwashed bitch
Chill
If those cameras weren't around, the welcoming responses would've been totalllly, compleeetely different! People act differently on cameras, esp on a topic as that in Jamaica. Hidden cameras next time please, for the truest expression of feelings
Mom is like "Its all cool".... Dad is like "WTF!??!"
nuffflavor lmao the dad is like tf
I never heard any patent say "cool" in this video .Are you making believe lies just like these 2 GIRLS as well??
The dad wants to throw up over that sickening shit
He like what have u done to my daughter
Climate change
13:10 that man is saying in his head, " wha the bumbo, rassclawt this!!" a because the camera deh bout.
Jamaica’s call a spade a spade cameras or not if he thought this he would have said it .
The music playlist tho.....
So you transitioned and the first time u wanna meet your parents u brought a camera crew of complete strangers! No privacy or respect. What nonsense! I would not see you with all them cameras.
I feel you! Black ppl of all cultures are very private ( i say that ecause i speak from my OWN personal experience). We dont play bout having others in our business!
Buuut, they just want to be heard and excepted. So i really feel for them.
I only wish I was able to see my kids I miscarried three times and if I have my kids and got it blessed me with the birth of my kids and they were alive and well and one of them told me they were transgender or they wanted to transition into whatever they wanted to transition to I would be like be yourself and I would still love them although the world is full of hate I still would love my kid.
Transgender people want to be respected not so much except it if their family doesn't respect them or accept them that's the problem respect from other people acceptance from their family
$ talks
The sister is pretty 💓
Yes she is
Yes, that sister is very pretty! But this is a sad story all around!
I often wonder why people spend so much time concerning themselves with what two consenting adults do. As long as they are not hurting anyone. To each his own.
Put that energy into stopping the sexual molestation of children in your family by your own family members and friends! That's an even larger problem that's ignored, especially in the black community.
Bella Rue Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed! Gay straight bi black white it doesn't matter children should be protected and should be cherished they are a gift
The fact of the matter is that what they did is totally wrong! God Almighty didn't created them that way.
@@michellesmith6265 Amen!🙏🙌
The Jamaican families of these girls and parents, are just being nice because the camera's are on them....
Big Daddy Chris You mean of these boys right.
True...
Are u a damn psychic or something that you're able to tell that they're only doing it because it's being filmed. What benefit will they get from pretending??? It won't make them famous or anything
Big Daddy Chris SO TRUE
I also believe they would've taken it very differently if the camera wasn't there...
Fantastic and eye opening for so many people around the world thank you two guys love you both for your courage and bravery...love from Hong Kong 🇭🇰
Lord I felt that father's cry. Had me bawling.
These guys have had a hard difficult painful life, it aint easy to feel like you were born in the wrong body, thanks for creating the documentary
beautiful
great to see the fathers showing some support and accepting them
Queen Queenly
Alo, the one with the lighter complexion was my high school classmate. We went to an all girl Catholic school in Montego Bay. She was always a "tomboy" even in the tunic. She walk like a boy and had the whole boyish demeanor. This is definitely not shocking to me to see her as a transgender.
Yep aloe had the longest name ever back in high school and yes VERY much tomboy. Not surprised at all.
Wow no one actually harm them both.....moral of the story is not all Jamaicans or homophobic.....
No let me correct that. Not all jamaicans are murderers. Many of us try to keep God's commandments. However we do view these actions as an abomination to the Lord.
Nobody trouble them because of the camera crew
Tyson King ha
If the cameras weren't there it would be a totally different story. Jamaicans are the greatest actors.
dthompson1313 how come we havent won any oscars then?
people are entitled to their own opinions weather you like it or not. society needs to stops trying to force people to accept gays/ transgender or whatever it may be.. some will accept some won't!! that's life.
+Eric wise exactly i hate how the British try and impose their imperialistic ideals on other countries. Jamaica don't believe in it, end of.
No one is forcing people to accept gays just leave them alone
Dean Parris there is a long complex history in jamaica. i read that before slavery they were just seen as part of scoiety. but then the slave masters brought chrisitininty to the island , and to dehumanise the salves. the masters raped the men. apprently that is where the hatred comes from and teh fear of gays/trans coming on to straight people
+Dean Parris so what was the point of this then they are trying to force thier shit on us
treating someone like they're less than human is not an 'opinion'. jamaica is a fucked up country. adult men are constantly perusing and engaging in sexual relationships with children and they are treated with less contempt (read: everybody blame the likkle girl dem caz dem 'bad') than lgbt people trying to live their lives and survive. we're a country full of hateful, hypocritical bigots. and it's nothing to be proud of.
The black one live in a district I live and I didn't even know until I watch this I believe because the camera is there why the parents take it so easy on them
As a young gay Jamaican guy doing work advocacy work for queer rights, I have never encountered trans Jamaican people. Ever. I'm so proud of y'all for telling your stories, and I hope this gives more Jamaican trans people the courage to tell their stories too. Oooh this touched my heart, amazing, One love!
Lenworth 4
jamaica has never been hostile towards lesbians, if they were males transitioning into females the outcome would have been dramatically different. lesbians have a status in jamaica similar to minorities in a racist place, they may be tolerated but may not be popularly accepted, in most cases lebians are well liked by their peers; but when it comes to gay men that's when violent attacks and mobbing will be a response, hence i don't understand her saying she feels more free and safe in the UK than in jamaica as if Jamaicans hunt down lesbians and kill them. i grew up seeing lebians cross dress and express their sexuality in my school and community i never saw the same for gay men, in fact i never even thought gay men existed. there is no sad story for lesbians in jamaica, this documentary has overly sensitized the issue of lesbians in jamaica.
+TheMohanroache same thing I was saying... I was like this is so dramatic for no reason really, because lesbians are rarely if ever oppressed or preyed upon in Jamaica
+shanziepanzie umm it may be slightly less hatred for lesbians than gay men, but yes they are oppressed. I know Jamaican women who were targeted and raped because they were lesbian. Please educate yourself and stop minimizing the struggles of an already vulnerable group.
DeejayCray you have persons out there that go after lesbians too, I know because I've seen it.. You have persons out there killing females just because they are lesbians whether dressed as a guy or not
I respect I been living in hiding from my Jamaican family for 20yrs because am afraid to tell them I transition from a male to a female hope I can build up the courage to let them know one day!!
that father is truly dying in side
Lmao playing Buju in the background
this had mii weakkk 😭
God doesn't make mistakes to change oneself is wrong .😔
Powergirl 76 exactly thanks you . God is sooo perfect
So if your baby is born with a deformity that can be corrected you'll refuse the surgery because "god doesn't make mistakes". If you get cancer - no chemo for you right? God wants you to die so you're just gonna die
8:00 The sister is really pretty, beautiful smile.
Continental Cushite sooo beautiful
so not supporting something makes me evil? - i thought we all had a choice
Y'all need Jesus Christ!!!!!!
Na I'm fine without him.
@Soraya and don't give me no dumb reason to why you believe that
Soraya You will be punished for you comment!
Jadea Campbell I think it was a joke and why would it be an issue if Jesus was gay
Jesus had 2 dads bitch
If I were their family member, I would accept them with no strings attached. They are just being who they are inside, no matter what's between their legs.
Jojo, but i'll wager plenty of jamaicans would accept, its just popular opinion holds more power.
now that is an solid and insightful individual. .... awesome answer hun
Djhumblesoul_Ja Phillips yes it is .
Mainly women would accept this because they are more emotive.
God dont make mistakes this is an insult
But yet still Jamaican men treats women like handicrafts!!! When I analyzed the attitudes of most Jamaican men, I personally thinks there biggest fear is the light that shines on you coming out of the closet! Most of them are bisexual or gay. A straight man would never treat a woman the way most treats the woman.
lucian Burke Robertson shut the fuck up you stupid ass piece of shit
Black men are abusive and hateful towards Black women the world over.
So true I agree
Bull shit nigha you just love the demons that a guide you to chat shit
Those men were probably raped. And so I rather them fight being gay then indulge in it.
You'll regret it sooner or later after all has been done. Mark my words bros.
Statistically, it is clear that most don't regret it and have a vastly improved quality of life.
@@annate4347 stop lying you bitch
@@annate4347
Most black trans do regret. It is not part of black culture period.
Blk Queen what does this have to do with race plus you have no evidence of this you’re just ignorant and not tolerant enough to understand that not everyone in the world is the same
So dem ave dick now Dwl😂😂the devil is a liar
20:40 ''deep down I wanted a son''...that's where the seed was sewn, the confusion started right there. The desire of the parents subconsciously was planted into that unborn child and from the womb something happened to make this child grew up with confusion and feelings of being or wanting to be the opposite sex because that was what the father wanted. It's hard to understand but these things happen, it's more spiritual than physical. This can only be reversed by strong deliverance and if they want to be free. I love everyone even if I don't condone their lifestyle because it's not natural. I can only pray for them and hope the love of God and the truth sets them free. We are all God's children.
Nadine Shields, We Have To Careful What We Give Life To.
Sorry dear but that is not how being transgender works.. no seed was planted by the father's immanent thought. Nevertheless, not that his opinion of his child's gender matters, in the end he got what he wished for as well. Too bad the society is perpetuating attitudes that distort people's views of transgenders and ultimately make it harder for these parents to accept their own children
My parents just wanted a child and didn't care about the gender. So how come I'm trans?
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Confused species
Imagine your sister coming to u in a man formation,SMH. Very disturbing and the sad part is they want you to believe it's normal.
imagine you trying to tell an adult what they can and can't do with their bodies/lives and you try make others believe is normal
ruddiato i agree ....they want us to except it ...i won't
@@djblondi138 you don't have to accept it, why in the hell would I want you to accept something you have no say or relevancy to it?. bitch please you give your ass too much credit.
@@djblondi138 What you won't "accept" (btw) is acceptance. If you can't expand your thought processes you're gonna be left in the dust.
TarantulaCandy you comments means nothing to me ...bitch
To tell his dad, " You HAVE to say he" is DEAD WRONG!!!! Quit forcing your ideals on people
As a transgender woman this video made me cried when he reunited with his father and as he accepted him as his son even though he will view him as his daughter.
Ramario is still following his journey . Seffan is not a he and is trying change back to been a woman she turn her back on the community and has embraced christianity. I met her this year as we are connect by family .
@@jackuk57 thank god
@@jackuk57 what’s steffans social media
@@jackuk57 how do you know this? Is Steffan now called Stephanie again? That shocked me I would never thought he’d transition back to her original gender.
@jackuk57 the Bible says nothing about transgender people
Jamaica is one of the most homophobic places ever! My whole family is Jamaican and Jamaica has always been a place that puts god and Christianity first that's the 'norm' there. So you to say your gay and transgender to a Jamaican is basically a crime because they're so religious, they don't even celebrate Halloween things like that, that is against the bible, is wrong there. I'm religious myself and I don't support the LGBT community but I don't judge them I still love them and I'm not going to tell you you're going to help or anything like that. But they will...
*hell
Yacinth O'Neill Not all are the same but my family grew up in the country part of Jamaica and down there they don't play no games. And I'm talking about the deep country where when they were little they had to carry water on their heads.
Nikasha Kelsey How I'm just going by off what I know, Jamaica has always been a religious place. You should actually go talk to a Jamaican that's over 30 and take their views on it. And they will tell you that even to this day gays and transgender are being killed in the land of jamaica. it may have died down but it's still happening and most Jamaicans in this comment section (from those that I have read) have the same views
Nikasha Kelsey not supporting is not judging Dont get it twisted
In reality without the camera it would be different if he started to live there again the community would know of what is happening and that would be another story for him and his family.
you can see in the families face, real pain...shock & disbelief at what their female family counterpart has become, I don't know if I could accept my child changing their sex...weird
Edward Fisher if my daughter came to me as a man, i would be like what have u done to my daughter..and dont come back until you bring her back
It's still your child
SOCIETY SUCKS I'm proud of these people for actually coming out to their parents and facing them
+Abbie T PREACH!
you gonna burn in hell, everyone, even the stupid knows that you are what you born, if you born a boy you are.... these sick devils are gonna burn fa eternity and you also
Let me ask this,do they still see their monthly periods?
No. Hormones stop it
Wow
🤔
This is what i want. Coz im bleeding heavy when menstruating
Again the bible is full filling its prophecy
The Bible was mistranslated and altered SO many times.
fuck off bitch worry about yourself
Stupes
*Fulfilling...
You’re clearly living in the 10th century
I wonder if this is why so many couples nowadays have "fertility" issues. Like how many trans ppl don't actually tell ppl how they were born. Now that's where I have an issue.
Jessica B. You're dumb lol, you can have fertility issues without being trans
schmutzcityusa Stfu if yo DUMB ASS don get where I was coming from on don't comment. That's not what i said.
This is a very eye opening comment! I never thought about this, wow, but now that you said it, this could really be the case in some of them because the trans ones could tell the doctor not to reveal it to their partner.
Most people know their partners are trans though, very few go around hiding it especially, especially trans men. You'd find out they were trans long before you got to the point of having children.
IF I dont like my face, nose, home,whats between my legs can I make you people pay for it just because I don't like myself?? No.
Meanwhile despite homosexuals claiming they are just like you and me they get " non emergency surgeries " and hormones at taxpayers expense. All to push homosexual agenda and a lie. Truth cost less and doesn't funnel money for pharmaceutical companies , doctors accounts for surgeries and politicians votes in exchange to promoting this convenient trendy deception. Serious foundation of lies is how they reunite? Despicable.
Man can never be wiser than God
Some of them believed that they are. Paul states in Romans 1 verse 22. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
@@angelinapatt5589 you don't understand the scripture honey nor the context. Yes, God is love; He is also a Holy and righteous judge. All those who belong to Christ are supposed to Love our neighbor, that is one of the easy fruits of the spirit but that doesn't mean we agree with everyone we love. One thing is for sure. We can never change what is written nor Gods standards. We are the ones to change, be converted, have a renewed mind, not God. He is perfect. If we're not willing to bow down to him and his standard of rightouesness then we make ourselves enemies of God. Period. He is the Potter we are the clay. What he says is final. It's time we repent and stop thinking we know everything when we don't. All honor and glory belongs to the only true and wise God the Lord Jesus Christ. God bless.
"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."
2 Timothy 2:19
God doesn't exist
@@jesusislife2837 you are HILARIOUS! I am still amazed by tje fact that even nowadays there are STILL some people that actually BELIEVE that shit. Trully amazing. 😂😂😂😂
@@samdobie6748 may God help you
long time mi nuh hear Buju 😂😂😂
TheTrueforeigner they remove boom bye bye off youtube , gay them powerful yo
chriss powell they did not
@@zuberi4805 shut uppp
Jadea Campbell lol the hell I do empress?!
TheTrueforeigner...whoiii😂😂😂
I am contentious abt hw God created me.I believe God is perfectionist.I will never embrace this ...
Is God a perfectionist when children are born with severe helath defects too? Should they live like that because God made them that way or use modern medical advances to help them live better?
@@tuskvet99 Ask God that question when you die Sir. Looking for answers from mere humans who only know just as much as you is quite ridiculous.
@@surey411 that’s the only argument christians have i swear
@@ninjaboyz121 real talk
This is sick sick sick father help us you are God alone heaven and earth you have created forgive them for they know not what they do
AMEN!
Stfu!!
God loves everyone.
@@TweSunshine you stfu.
Lol leave ❤️
Made in Europe, twisted freaks, who will have the baby? stay in England, did they sew on a dick? they want to corrupt the whole world.
+sam alex Your mindset is corrupted, my friend.
very brave of both of these guys to share their stories with their families!
Every man stand on his own two feet and every tub sit on it's own bottom,,,,,but dont draw sadom and gomorrow near me boss man
What that mean sadom and gamera from the bible is that wear god sent the angels to kill off the
very brave men you both are, the courage and strength it took to take this step is very inspiring. My girlfriend is from Jamaica and I am a trans male. When she talks about taking me home to visit I become very nervous and scared as I know how homophobic and trans phobic the people are in Jamaica. I don't think Ill be able to go there till I fully resemble a man. Sending you both positive vibes thank you so much for showing your story. Wishing you both all the best.
Alex Michael
My entire family is from 🇯🇲 and I don't think this is going to go well.
I wish them the best
i see u with the “s-curl” 👀💇🏽♂️🤣🤣
lmao!
Lmao😅😅😅
How long have they been in the UK? I'm just surprised their jamaican accent has changed and they sound english.
When his dad cried i did too😭😭😭😭
Am wondering what my experience will be like when I return to Jamaica. I am a Transman too. But I have not returned since I started Transitioning... Nice video bro best regards
I think its always more accepting when a woman transitions into a man
My family is big and most of them are christians 3 brothers are 1 bishop 2 pastors they will never understand. Half my family don't speak to me but oh well...
@@JOURNEYWITHKEVIN have you tried being a normal girl?
"Transman" 😂 No, just a chick full of artificial testosterone I'm afraid.
@@rhodwilliams7258 I am smiling at your comment. You just made my day. I would like to educate you some more as to who we are as transgenders. But first check the Google definition of Transgenders. Then you can visit my channel for educational and motivational videos from Transmen with lived experience...
Who am I to judge?
chantilly lace you have the right to say your mind the reality is we all have opinions and people mistake it for being judgemental
Telling someone right from wrong isn't judging, its loving them the right way. Once you've done that you've done your part. What one decides to do from that moment forward is on them.
dem hips don't lie lol
Love Rose lmao 🤣
Love Rose yes
I get the joke but cis men can have wider hips lol
Fuck off
Lorenzo Ceresa it’s true though. They look mad fem.
Romario and Steffan: You guys are so brave to have told your story - Thank you. They say the Bible does not support this lifestyle, but the truth is Jesus accepted social outcasts and would have accepted you. God bless you always.
Jesus accepted outcast, but Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery, go and sin no more.God bless.Amen
wow, they took it good, some Jamaican would probably loose it,
Dj Genius they were in front of the camara thats why
Really? Then Jamaica has some catching up to do
Lisa S no thanks. Keep that western illness to themselves.
@@seanharper8788 true
@@lisa196409 no they dont
I realise for a while now people are tryna force their perceptions or perspectives on others!
One great way to do that is through media. I felt it for the father the most! Having a daughter and then them changing into a male.
Some people won't get what kind of pain this brings on a family! It's also a cultural thing and most people having identity crisis because they are lead to believe that women should lol a certain way and se with men but some women are just more masculine and some men are just abit more feminine. They just need to tap into the more dominant side and accept how they are born. It's also has a lot to do with foods that we are not consuming that have high levels of estrogen which can affect hormones and change body shapes. That's why it's so important time ever to let your children know who they are
Charlene Williams so what u say about people standing up for racism and equality...aren't they forcing their perceptions on the racists? u have clear ignorance but I understand you
I feel for everybody in this. However you can't help noticing how the dominant culture tries to enforce its own values on other cultures. This time they are using a black faces to front it to Jamaicans. Jamaicans will never accept it though. Well done BBC. ... its called aggressive brain washing by media, trying to get the whole world to accept the emperor has no clothes on. Our bodies decides our sex. Y chromosome - Male. X chromosme - Female. They have not been able to find a homosexual gene. It doesnt exist. Biological sex is not assigned either. Identity conflict has to do with thinking and feeling. Its a pyschological problem. If I was to go and see my doctor and announce I feel fat everytime I look in the mirror yet I look anorexic or I feel suicidal, that doctor would sign me up to see the pschiatrist. Today you are told you are transgender etc and encouraged to remove bits and pieces of yourself. Now they are trying to override parents wishes and indoctrinate our children from preschool that they can be trapped in the wrong body and align any calm opposing traditional views with racism or homophobia. Madness. The emperor has no clothes on.
Wow , U made a great point, the consumption of food .Never thought about it .
Charlene Williams u
Charlene Williams j,mjuuuu
Her brother is like "What the hell happened to you?"
Watched few of these documentaries and it helped me understand a lot about the LGBT community in general. In the end its all about happiness and we as people need to do what ever we can to be happy as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. Props to these guys for stepping up and inspiring other and helping me as a straight man understand how difficult once life can be in such situations :)
U sound gay
@ms honey Sorry I didn’t write that!
It's good to know that I'm not the only lgbtq+ Jamaican out there
i support the community and i wish u the best esp if u live there, best of luck :)
You heard you should be sad the rest of your life because there is a holy book out there that says it is wrong. You need mental help.
Carolyn Montgomery fuck your holy book, you fucking judgements idiot. You’re unholy
TRUTH .. If God wanted him to be a male he would've did from the Start .. So sad people are corrupted by the Babylon System .. Rasta Live .. Be yourself & no one Else .. God made no mistakes or does ..
Sky High So then god couldn’t make up their mind for intersex people huh? Or were they just born a mistake?
What about people born without a leg should they not get prosthetics or a wheelchair?
@@hayes2132 dummy it's not the same please stop don't try to compare a spiritual dysfunction with a physical dysfunction 😢
I fully support and love these two guys. I hope they stay strong and know they're loved
Demonic force at work the biggest fool is the one that fool them self
Jeeze i hope you never got hurt. I am Jamaican living in Jamaica and i must admit tha we can keep up a bag a fuckery more time. We are not all homophobes.
You guys talking about the bible didn't say it's wrong😒 Read between the lines, the bible said "be fruitful and multiply" how can two man or two woman multiply??!
I am Jamaican and unuh hurt mi soul!!!
do you know how many contradictions are in the bible just wondering?
Virgil, there are zero contradictions in the bible. It's not the word of man, it's the word of God. You have to understand the context, history, distinguish the difference between figurative and literal terms etc
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for all are one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28
They can't but there are children here who are orphaned that they can adopt and take care of which a lot of the gay community does taken or adopt children and these kids grow up and live for ducted lives and they're happy and they're part of a society that's productive going now we see that all the time it's a shame that gay people stay married longer than heterosexual people. You're missing the point two people fall in love that's what they are they're in love you can't stop that. There have been women who transition to men and then he was transition to women and those two fell in love
@@hugheaston7598 thank you I keep trying to tell them all are accepted into the kingdom couldn't think of that verse but thank you all these Old Testament people who aren't Jewish and shouldn't even be quoting scripture from the Old Testament because we were never under the law as Gentiles we are under grace
Would aso say that gay - lesbian has nothing to do with transgender. The two should NEVER be confused
I agree.I am lesbian but dont interact with trans people at all. AT ALL!
ThaMeekster why
Just don’t go to a Elephant Man, Buju Banton, or T.O.K concert.
Batty man bye bye
why do jamaicans/Caribbean people care so much what OTHER people doing? if they lbgt why bother them, in what ways do they affect anyone's life?
Anybody know the songs they were playing in the background?
K Babie buju
Boom bye bye by buju baton
I'm glad they have each other.
I understand being gay, like liking the Same gender, but what makes a person want to change their physical appearance? like hormone therapy, etc. can someone please explain?
also can it be reversed? like if one of them were to stop taking hormones would they gradually and very slowly revert back to being female?
Chase the Stars if someone feels they were into the wrong body but wanted to change it, in order to free themselves or whatever bondage that’s been having a hold on them, why not?
They feel
Like they are in the wrong gender so they transition, and after hormones some of the changes are permanent such as the voice and facial /body hair and baldness and the growing of the clit those things will never change even if they stop taking hormones
Someone would be transgender as if they feel like their trapped in the wrong body, their body doesn’t match up with their gender identity.
damn you two are brave, I was scared to even watch . Best of luck in life though
soursop 9p
WTH were you scared of???! You all bunch of idiots! These two boys came home and were accepted and then they continue to spread this propaganda against my country!!! And shame on you Jamaicans who jump on this bandwagon shaming our country and our people in defense of this IMBALANCED behavior!!!
My bf is transgender i have never been with someone trans before had never even met someone trans before him. He was amazed at how i never judged him was surprised when i would proudly hold his hand in public and kiss him in front of other people. He said exes of his weren't as open to displaying affection with him in public and he wasn't used to that. Honestly me when i look at him i dont see a woman never have he is a man to me and treats me better than any other man I've ever been with & I will continue to support him in all his dreams & endeavors he chooses to go through in life.
May God please open the eyes of the blind, ears for the death and the mind of confusion ... In Jesus name . AMEN
???? its not confusion lol
What???
Step is now a christain and has gone back to being a girl. Her testimony was powerful.
Straight and Direct can I get an article?
????
I have a gay male Jamaican friend who says that most of the men in Jamaica or bisexual but They don’t want anyone to know and they will have sex with a gay man and then pretend like they didn’t 🤷🏽♀️
I was very happy that the dad came around and show emotion towards his own child. It doesn’t matter who the person is they were created and designed that way. No one chooses to be transgender. They are born that way. I have many transgender friends and I always have since I was in elementary school. So love is love and you have to be happy in your own skin no matter what others think of that
Wow. Jamaica looks beautiful. Good luck to these 2 guys. They deserve happiness and to be the person they are inside on the outside as well.
I wouldn't turn my back on these girls as their family. In fact, I would develop a deeper bond with them while at the same time going into serious prayer and fasting to the Lord to win them over from the devil. People! Persecute less and pray more for our transgenders and homosexuals! They have souls that need to be regained from the enemy.
Godly Gem *guys
So true don't make them feel weird😂
Amen
The enemies are the people right here on Earth who make their lives harder by not accepting them and trying to change them