I'm so surprised you've only got a few hundred subscribers - that was a great video - in-depth, well structured, nicely produced, and great sound quality to be able to hear the tonal differences. Love the TS --> the OCD.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback :) Yes the TS into the OCD is the winning combo. Seems like I like a boost before my drive to give it some more oomph. Thanks for watching!
A good rule of thumb is whichever pedal retains more low end goes first in the chain. If Overdrive #1 has more bass than overdrive #2, overdrive 1 goes first to balance out the low end frequencies/boost pedal #2.
rule of thumb is basically the same thing as assuming. you know what they say about assuming. your statement is based on one opinion. some people might want to drive the bass even more depending on genre and what effect they want in that particular genre of music. rule of thumb really is... putting a lighter drive before a heavier drive will make the sound thicker and grittier and can make it mushy... lighter drive after the heavier drive is really more for tone shaping almost like an eq or for a boost. but hey that just more assumptions... now on my part... cheers!
I am watching to see what *you* think. one additional point, a volume boost after your modulation pedals is also a useful setup, that way you don't blast your modulation pedals with too much signal.
T.S into OCD for me. Nice comparison. I use these 2, and additionally a Barber Electronics Gain Changer S.R. = ( my desert island overdrive ). oNe LovE from NYC
Great video which was very helpful thanks. I’m going against the grain here but I prefer the OCD into the tubescreamer. I’m playing a Les Paul studio into a Princeton reverb. I’m generally on lower gain settings for blues rock. There are so many options so I’ll probably change my mind next week!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful. Haha yes it's the less popular option based on responses to this video but it depends on the whole rig as well as the application.
great vid. I've been using the ts9 at 9'oclock after OCD like example 4. sounds harsh by yourself but in a live band, it's great. some of the ugly/middy less distorted tones can be the ticket in a dense live mix.
Best use of a TS is for stacking, placed before your main ODs / preamps, and used more as a boost. It should sound like absolute garbage on its own, but like heaven when combined with a klon(e), BB preamp, Timmy, or (my current favorite) a Hampstead Odyssey. TS placed first, volume up, gain down, and tone down to where, again, it sounds pretty bad on its own. All others coming after, should be set pretty much to their sweet spot on their own, but fill out and punch even better with the TS stacked in. It allows your main ODs to sound great as-is, and have just enough gain for leads, also cleaning up when volume is rolled back, and then once TS is engaged before it, will bring in more punch, lows, and gain by driving both your OD pedal and amp. Never did like any TS circuit on their own or stacked after another, though, but everybody's different.
I remember getting the TS for the first time and trying to use it as an overdrive into a clean amp. I was totally disappointed haha but then I learnt about using it as a boost and I can't have a pedalboard without one now!
I have the morning glory, bonsai (tubescreamer), and an old OCD 1.4.. trying to figure out what order I should put them in... was thinking Morning Glory (always on), tube screamer, OCD. What do you do?
Having both pedals and done similar tests I had to go back and listen to my tones. I run the OCD at 18v and this prevents the clipping from hitting the ceiling of the OCD when the TS goes before. Whether volume or gain it’s all gain in this position. Therefore running it with low gain and about 3 o’clock is where I like mine. I run my OCD a little hotter than you. If the TS is after the OCD, when I engage that I am immediately presented with the TSs character even “just” as a boost. It pushes the mids and is a great solo sound. Finally. I decided in the end to go OCD and the TS just in front. It dirties up the OCD but tightens it to push thru the mix. However, I’m pretty much always running into other gain options (WA MESSNER - JOYO AMERICAN - MORNING GLORY 4 (w/red switch). So a LOT of permutations. In the signal chain I have a Keeley Compressor after my gain stage before a spark when I want a clean boost after. All that goes thru the Neunaber Iconoclast My interests now are in loop switchers and trying to leave behind one gain pedal has become a painful proposition. Great video and content.
Thanks a lot, man. Great and useful test(very good playing too). I preferred TS before the OCD, in every sotuations. I liked the "fuller" sound. It feels more bassy and gritty. I think Tube Screamer after the OCD depletes all the OCD tipical punch. Even if this solution gives an interesting and original mid-rangy outcome.
Thank you very much Yari. Yes the TS into an OCD is the way to go, for me. I'd be interested to do a similar video with different drives to see whether I always favour a boost before, or if it just because of how much the TS influences the EQ when placed after a drive. Thanks for watching mate! What drives are you using?
@@AlexisGuitars thanks for your answer Alexis, I played drums for many years with various bands, but I own a'89 Fender hm strat I use to play for my personal compositions and other production experiments. I play and study a bit of bass too, for 4 years and I'm looking for assembling a multi-purpose pedalboard suitable for both bass and guitar. I know it's a complex work, but I'd like to choose drives suitable (with quite good compromise) for both the instruments. For the bass (an active Ibanez, EDC715) I usually use a youtube modded behringer bdi21, where I can eliminate the mid scoop curve and bypass the bandpass filter to get more mids by two switches. I like to try a TS808 clone and modding it for having (via switch) another fequency cut (around lowB)to alternate a guitar/bass use. Talking about the guitar I recently used to go full digitally, via soundcard and amplitube emulating the drive of Ts808 driving rat-simile or boss ds distortions, then Mesa or Marhall amp simulators, but I miss the 'sound' of capacitors and resistors too much. Sorry for the messy/long reply ^_^
Cool! I know what you mean with one pedalboard. I also like a streamlined approach but that must be tricky making that work for bass and guitar together all the time. Might be easier for modulation but drives sometimes sound different with different guitars let alone between instruments haha
I go personally my full tone ocd-> jhs morning glory in my signal chain. I like the base sound of my ocd as my main drive and the morning glory afterwords for a solo (all knobs at noon)
Great video. I've been trying to cut the darkness of the ocd. I love it but just to loose in the bottom end for me. Putting the TS after cleans that up. For me at least. Both ways sound great. Excuse to buy another TS!
Thanks Adam! A few people who have commented have mentioned the idea of using two TS pedals either side of the OCD. I think it's an awesome idea haha.Thanks for watching mate!
I actually use my rig like this. I have a Wampler tumnus going into a Wampler Euphoria drive, into a OCD. The tumnus is set up as a clean boost with a touch more treble. the Euphoria is set up as a slightly 'transparent' over drive bluesy break up thing. The OCD is set up as a marshally Overdrive distortion thing. I use the tumnus infront to push their gain stages even higher to get that extra bit of grit and sustain out of them.
That sounds like a great overdrive rig mate. I'm sure it's super versatile too with all the stacking options. I've tried a tumnus and absolutely loved it but not tried a euphoria yet. Do you have the amp set pretty clean as a pedal platform or do you have some dirt from the amp too? Thank you so much for watching!
Yeah I normally stack with a clean pedal platform too. I still haven't found the pedal combo that u prefer to a gain channel pushed by a TS. It's out there... The pedal quest continues!
I really liked the low gain ts with the mid gain ocd in front. Great tone. I use my ocd with the gain around 4 oclock.with a green rhino in front. Sounds great through my or15 on the edge! Great video dude! 👍
I have the same equipment, and use the TS and the OCD through effects loop and the amp set on the clean channel I don't understand why this sounds better than simply using the OR15's distortion channel w/o effects, but it does.
Great video I use like you but Ts-808 keeley mod plus like boost of ocd V. 14 with blues junior 3 celestion v30 and American strat and it's magnific overdrive and distortion stacked. I recommend this pedals together wins.
It really is a great combo! I just bought myself a Harley Benton Ultimate Drive which is an OCD clone. I'm curious to see if it sounds as good with a tubescreamer! Thank you so much for watching!
@@AlexisGuitars it's ok with the clone it's not exactly the same but you can check aproximality how it sounds if you like it can save money in the future buy the real OCD, you can get second hand more cheap. In Europe 90€-120€ second hand market I know the clone it's more cheap but I recommend invest in the good gear if you pockets and domestic economy it's possible. I like both is great overdrive/medium distortion, also you can use like clean boost. If you have opportunity test in a shop if it's possible.
I'm currently trying to figure out how to stack my JHS Morning Glory, JHS Bonsai (tubescreamer), and OCD 1.4. Mainly play a strat into an Orange Micro Dark at edge of breakup into an Orange PPC 112 cab.. any suggestions are welcomed! I'm having fun experimenting.
Great video. My tone is a TC spark set as a clean boost going into a Joyo vintage overdrive with drive, volume and tone at 10 o clock. Magical combination. The Joyo VO is a really sweet pedal.
That's an awesome combo. I've heard great things about the joyo vintage overdrive! The spark and VO must be a pretty versatile combo! Thanks for watching mate! You may have given me an idea for a future video ;)
@@AlexisGuitars It's basically how Allan Holdsworth gets his midrange tone. The secret is the sweet spot using the guitar volume and tone control first. You have to use your ear. It's just cascaded overdrive with not too much gain. I'm going to stack another Tubescreamer after my Joyo to smooth it even further. The great thing is by cascading them properly you reduce a lot of noise too whilst 'Gaining' sustain.
@@AlexisGuitars I use both pedals together all the time only when I RUN ON SOLOS...BUT sometime singularly ONE AT A TIME, but it's dipends! Sometime use also the classic boss ds1(before always) and ts9 after. when run the solos i play IN 2 MOD: 1)OCD into TS9 or DS1 into TS9. I ASSURE YOU THAT I TESTED THOUSANDS OF DISTORSOR / OVERDRIVES BUT IN THE END I WENT BACK TO THESE THREE(DS1-OCD-TS9)
haha well the classics are classics for a reason! I also keep things simple with overdrives, for years I only used an OCD and a clean boost for solos, then switched to a TS when I got an amp with a better dirt channel
That sounds like a really versatile gain-rig. Nice! I really like the idea of a TS before and after. I've toyed with that idea in the past. What fuzz are you using?
For me I run a TS in the middle of my chain. It cuts the lows and highs, given it’s EQ characteristics. I find that is needed sometimes! So usually all low gain first like Blues Breaker and Klon…Then a TS to cut the lows and highs to focus on mids. If I want a boost I can use the Blues Breaker into it. However I like my TS in front of any high gain drives to goose it and for leads! I see a lot of people run a TS first before low gain drives, and I find it a bit weird. Because they say they do it to retain the lows and highs. And use the TS as a boost to the mids. At that point might as well as do the BB>Klon combo. Because by not liking the EQ of the TS and avoiding it…do you really need a TS? Why not get a full band EQ boost and set the mids higher as a first pedal then? I go morning glory(Klon after is optional) then TS and my heavier gain pedals like Rat or DLS to push for solo or more gain. I like the TS to cut out my low gain lows and Highs for Rhythm cut, as well as a cool old school flavor. The Strokes use a Jekyl and Hyde with a boost or Klon in front. Or a boost on each side of the pedal. It’s a thinner mid sound..but it sounds cool. They made that the main sound of the band! Maybe because no one else was using a TS EQ sound as a main pedal. I usually see many Indie Rock players with a light gain Transparent OD like a Blues Breaker as a pint of break up. Tubescreamer then heavy drives last. Optionally if you really one a high mid range solo boost…use a Treble Booster as a first pedal! But I find TS after low gain combos like BB and Klon. Then TS before heavy like RAT, DLS or Crunch Box. That way you get the best of both worlds, and can use the low gains to focus a TS pedal! I don’t get why people put the TS first to avoid the EQ cut on low gain…just get a spark boost with EQ and boost the mids then. If the OCD is cranked, then yeah put the TS behind it as a MIAB pedal. TS slay in front of high gain pedals. But in front of low gain, it loses its EQ stack and seems pointless to me. Because then you can only run the mix cut sound of the TS by itself! Unless you want to add a boost to the front of it. But if low gain already up front..that is your boost!
Thanks for that! Since making this video I only really stack a TS into a higher gain drive. I normally just keep my lower gain pedals set to where I like them so they each do different things. Still a whole world of tone/gain stacking for me to discover
@@AlexisGuitars yeah there’s no wrong way. But I see so many buy a TS, hate the thin sound and then place it first in chain before low gain. As we know your last stack pedal will be the EQ. I find having a morning glory first at point of break is great for a base sound. Maybe put a boost first then the MG and set the EQ, to do whatever. The TS after low gain I find it works well, to push out in the band. And you can use that light breakup gain to make it more focused whether a BB style or a boost. But a TS into heavy drive is great for juicing thing up, and soloing. I dunno I find mid focus goosed up a bit to be really cool for Rhythm parts in a band. Also you can explore new sounds with this. And your not losing anything because you can use the TS to boost the next gainstage after. That works for me well! But yeah I find a cheap Spark with EQ would do better in front of a Low gain pedal if you want that…because then you can control his much highs, mids and lows you want…along with more gain push. So to me it just makes since! But if it’s your only two pedals, I could see having the TS first depending on style and genre. But if someone want a mid boost for solos…dude a treble boost will do it! Like a Beano or something. Seriously the TB is my favorite underrated pedal for that kind of stuff. It works on every pedal…and some songs I just keep it on the entire time!
That's awesome. It's been a while since I've tried it so I'll definitely try ocd into TS again. Thanks for watching mate. Do you use it with humbuckers or singe coils mostly?
@George Irisarri Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it! I have been looking into getting a preamp. Thanks for the tip! I'm going to be doing more pedal stacking videos in the future if you're interested
Thanks! It was just a riff I came up with... At least I thought it was one of mine 😂 need to listen to last child and see whether I've unintentionally plagiarised!
Hi mate, in my opinion you can get some great high gain rock tones. I'd personally use the TS into the OCD, with the TS set high volume low gain and the OCD set gain noon or slightly higher. Can't say specifically for Alice in chains as I'm only familiar with some of their bigger songs, but TS and OCD together is very versatile imo
Hi Felix, I've not tried the EP booster, though it's been on my wish list for years. I'm sure it all sounds good, but I'd be interested to hear it with the OCD for more versatility, but like I said, I haven't tried it!
@@AlexisGuitars love to see it wjen u do a video combining ep booster with ocd or turbo tube screamer..thanks for the reply..hope u will do a video bout ..coz iv been torn between rhose two..the ocd and the turbo tube screamer
Ah sorry I misread your comment. I can't say which should come first, but if I were putting a pedalboard together id be inclined to try out the TS first, but I'd have to try out both ways and see!
Thanks! And just to be helpful, if I was in the room with you I would’ve had a hard time Not cutting yer arms off. Yer not Italian are ya? Anyway, it was helpful.
That would be awesome! I haven't tried a pedal that is based on these two together, but maybe have a look at the Jam Double dreamer. It's basically a TS and a higher gain pedal all in one with lots of options. I haven't tried one, but I think it's my dream pedal haha. Thanks for watching mate! Edit: the TS comes after in that pedal, so maybe not quite what you're looking for!
You should really check out the Analogworm OD 808 mkII dual pedal. It’s got loads of routing/tone options on board - analogworm.ru/product/od808mk2/. Might need a Google translate though;)
@@AlexisGuitars you're welcome! I ran into them, when I realized I was after ocd+ts in one pedal. Seen other options later but at 2x+ price, so pulled the trigger with Analogworm. Oh and btw liked your content. This seems like a fresh new channel. Good luck with the journey, I'd be tempted to follow.
Tubescreamer and OCD 5 minute comparison: ua-cam.com/video/abQOKW3tYQI/v-deo.html
I'm so surprised you've only got a few hundred subscribers - that was a great video - in-depth, well structured, nicely produced, and great sound quality to be able to hear the tonal differences. Love the TS --> the OCD.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback :) Yes the TS into the OCD is the winning combo. Seems like I like a boost before my drive to give it some more oomph. Thanks for watching!
A good rule of thumb is whichever pedal retains more low end goes first in the chain.
If Overdrive #1 has more bass than overdrive #2, overdrive 1 goes first to balance out the low end frequencies/boost pedal #2.
Interesting, cheers!
rule of thumb is basically the same thing as assuming. you know what they say about assuming. your statement is based on one opinion. some people might want to drive the bass even more depending on genre and what effect they want in that particular genre of music. rule of thumb really is... putting a lighter drive before a heavier drive will make the sound thicker and grittier and can make it mushy... lighter drive after the heavier drive is really more for tone shaping almost like an eq or for a boost. but hey that just more assumptions... now on my part... cheers!
TS screamer before All The way! By far! Always! Forever and ever!
Haha absolutely!
Great video, well put together. TS before the OCD for sure! I bought an OCD after watching this video. Thanks, great sound!
Thank you for the feedback! Hope you enjoy the OCD!
Saya pilih TS mini sebelum OCD. Ditelinga saya suaranya lebih nyaman. Terima kasih atas sharingnya.
I am watching to see what *you* think. one additional point, a volume boost after your modulation pedals is also a useful setup, that way you don't blast your modulation pedals with too much signal.
Thank you for watching! That's a good point, I only really use a vibe as modulation but it sounds best before drive to me
T.S into OCD for me. Nice comparison. I use these 2, and additionally a Barber Electronics Gain Changer S.R. = ( my desert island overdrive ). oNe LovE from NYC
Nice! I'll check out the gain changer (great name!). Thanks for watching mate
Great video which was very helpful thanks. I’m going against the grain here but I prefer the OCD into the tubescreamer. I’m playing a Les Paul studio into a Princeton reverb. I’m generally on lower gain settings for blues rock. There are so many options so I’ll probably change my mind next week!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful. Haha yes it's the less popular option based on responses to this video but it depends on the whole rig as well as the application.
For me too..the sound is more cream
great vid. I've been using the ts9 at 9'oclock after OCD like example 4. sounds harsh by yourself but in a live band, it's great. some of the ugly/middy less distorted tones can be the ticket in a dense live mix.
Thanks mate. I agree, the tones that work great in a mix aren't always the most satisfying in isolation!
This is totally right 👍
Best use of a TS is for stacking, placed before your main ODs / preamps, and used more as a boost. It should sound like absolute garbage on its own, but like heaven when combined with a klon(e), BB preamp, Timmy, or (my current favorite) a Hampstead Odyssey. TS placed first, volume up, gain down, and tone down to where, again, it sounds pretty bad on its own. All others coming after, should be set pretty much to their sweet spot on their own, but fill out and punch even better with the TS stacked in. It allows your main ODs to sound great as-is, and have just enough gain for leads, also cleaning up when volume is rolled back, and then once TS is engaged before it, will bring in more punch, lows, and gain by driving both your OD pedal and amp. Never did like any TS circuit on their own or stacked after another, though, but everybody's different.
I remember getting the TS for the first time and trying to use it as an overdrive into a clean amp. I was totally disappointed haha but then I learnt about using it as a boost and I can't have a pedalboard without one now!
Great Video man! I actually have a morning glory v4 tube screamer and the ocd v2. All of them sound great when stacked 👍🏼
Nice! I haven't had the pleasure of playing the morning glory but I've seen it on loads of boards. Thanks for watching :)
I have the morning glory, bonsai (tubescreamer), and an old OCD 1.4.. trying to figure out what order I should put them in... was thinking Morning Glory (always on), tube screamer, OCD. What do you do?
Good video, thanks for posting! I have gotten good tones using a vintage TS9 before an OCD into a slightly overdriven Hiwatt Amp.
Thanks Lee! Sounds like a really cool, versatile rig.
Having both pedals and done similar tests I had to go back and listen to my tones. I run the OCD at 18v and this prevents the clipping from hitting the ceiling of the OCD when the TS goes before. Whether volume or gain it’s all gain in this position. Therefore running it with low gain and about 3 o’clock is where I like mine. I run my OCD a little hotter than you.
If the TS is after the OCD, when I engage that I am immediately presented with the TSs character even “just” as a boost. It pushes the mids and is a great solo sound.
Finally. I decided in the end to go OCD and the TS just in front. It dirties up the OCD but tightens it to push thru the mix.
However, I’m pretty much always running into other gain options (WA MESSNER - JOYO AMERICAN - MORNING GLORY 4 (w/red switch).
So a LOT of permutations.
In the signal chain I have a Keeley Compressor after my gain stage before a spark when I want a clean boost after. All that goes thru the Neunaber Iconoclast
My interests now are in loop switchers and trying to leave behind one gain pedal has become a painful proposition.
Great video and content.
Cheers Nathan! Looks like you've also spent some time tone-searching! The search never ends haha. Thanks for watching mate
TS before. Other way around sounds a bit like the OCD is being strangled. I’m gonna reshuffle and go JHS Bonsai into OCD v2
Yes I agree! I think I should have set the TS volume higher for the "TS after" clips, but even still, before all the way! Thanks for watching mate
Thanks a lot, man. Great and useful test(very good playing too). I preferred TS before the OCD, in every sotuations. I liked the "fuller" sound. It feels more bassy and gritty. I think Tube Screamer after the OCD depletes all the OCD tipical punch. Even if this solution gives an interesting and original mid-rangy outcome.
Thank you very much Yari. Yes the TS into an OCD is the way to go, for me. I'd be interested to do a similar video with different drives to see whether I always favour a boost before, or if it just because of how much the TS influences the EQ when placed after a drive. Thanks for watching mate! What drives are you using?
@@AlexisGuitars thanks for your answer Alexis, I played drums for many years with various bands, but I own a'89 Fender hm strat I use to play for my personal compositions and other production experiments. I play and study a bit of bass too, for 4 years and I'm looking for assembling a multi-purpose pedalboard suitable for both bass and guitar. I know it's a complex work, but I'd like to choose drives suitable (with quite good compromise) for both the instruments. For the bass (an active Ibanez, EDC715) I usually use a youtube modded behringer bdi21, where I can eliminate the mid scoop curve and bypass the bandpass filter to get more mids by two switches. I like to try a TS808 clone and modding it for having (via switch) another fequency cut (around lowB)to alternate a guitar/bass use. Talking about the guitar I recently used to go full digitally, via soundcard and amplitube emulating the drive of Ts808 driving rat-simile or boss ds distortions, then Mesa or Marhall amp simulators, but I miss the 'sound' of capacitors and resistors too much. Sorry for the messy/long reply ^_^
Cool! I know what you mean with one pedalboard. I also like a streamlined approach but that must be tricky making that work for bass and guitar together all the time. Might be easier for modulation but drives sometimes sound different with different guitars let alone between instruments haha
@@AlexisGuitars I'll do some tests...and hope to obtain a pleasant texture of sound by selecting pedals reviewed good for both guitars. Thanks!
Great video Alexis. I learned: OCD into a cleanish amp sounds very nice. Ts into the OCD is s great combination, MIAB style sound.
Hi Jorge, thank you very much! Yes the combo gets you lots of versatility. Thanks for watching mate
I go personally my full tone ocd-> jhs morning glory in my signal chain. I like the base sound of my ocd as my main drive and the morning glory afterwords for a solo (all knobs at noon)
Nice! I've not tried any JHS pedals yet but would love to. Hopefully can get one for the channel at some point. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I've been trying to cut the darkness of the ocd. I love it but just to loose in the bottom end for me. Putting the TS after cleans that up. For me at least. Both ways sound great. Excuse to buy another TS!
Thanks Adam! A few people who have commented have mentioned the idea of using two TS pedals either side of the OCD. I think it's an awesome idea haha.Thanks for watching mate!
I actually use my rig like this. I have a Wampler tumnus going into a Wampler Euphoria drive, into a OCD. The tumnus is set up as a clean boost with a touch more treble. the Euphoria is set up as a slightly 'transparent' over drive bluesy break up thing. The OCD is set up as a marshally Overdrive distortion thing. I use the tumnus infront to push their gain stages even higher to get that extra bit of grit and sustain out of them.
That sounds like a great overdrive rig mate. I'm sure it's super versatile too with all the stacking options. I've tried a tumnus and absolutely loved it but not tried a euphoria yet. Do you have the amp set pretty clean as a pedal platform or do you have some dirt from the amp too? Thank you so much for watching!
@@AlexisGuitars Typically I use it into a very clean amp. Its just easier for me to have repeatable sounds from amp to amp that way.
Yeah I normally stack with a clean pedal platform too. I still haven't found the pedal combo that u prefer to a gain channel pushed by a TS. It's out there... The pedal quest continues!
I really liked the low gain ts with the mid gain ocd in front. Great tone.
I use my ocd with the gain around 4 oclock.with a green rhino in front. Sounds great through my or15 on the edge!
Great video dude! 👍
Thank you very much! Sounds like an awesome set up you have. I've not tried an or15 but would love to. Big fan of orange. Thanks for watching mate
I have the same equipment, and use the TS and the OCD through effects loop and the amp set on the clean channel I don't understand why this sounds better than simply using the OR15's distortion channel w/o effects, but it does.
Cool! I'll try putting some OD pedals in the effects loop to see how that sounds. Thanks for watching!
The video everyone must see... TS before OCD = fatality! Very useful video, great job \m/
Haha thanks mate! I agree, TS before OCD just squeezes out all the juice these two pedals have to offer
TS as boost into OCD preserves the OCD tone, just as it should be.
Yes I agree! It just gives the OCD some more juice without changing the core of it
Great video I use like you but Ts-808 keeley mod plus like boost of ocd V. 14 with blues junior 3 celestion v30 and American strat and it's magnific overdrive and distortion stacked. I recommend this pedals together wins.
It really is a great combo! I just bought myself a Harley Benton Ultimate Drive which is an OCD clone. I'm curious to see if it sounds as good with a tubescreamer! Thank you so much for watching!
@@AlexisGuitars it's ok with the clone it's not exactly the same but you can check aproximality how it sounds if you like it can save money in the future buy the real OCD, you can get second hand more cheap. In Europe 90€-120€ second hand market I know the clone it's more cheap but I recommend invest in the good gear if you pockets and domestic economy it's possible. I like both is great overdrive/medium distortion, also you can use like clean boost. If you have opportunity test in a shop if it's possible.
Yes I've seen some demos and it seems a bit darker, less clarity. I'll do a demo of the Ultimate Drive when I have time!
Thanks for the video bro !
Thanks for watching mate!
nice demos and thoughts .. cheers!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
I'm currently trying to figure out how to stack my JHS Morning Glory, JHS Bonsai (tubescreamer), and OCD 1.4. Mainly play a strat into an Orange Micro Dark at edge of breakup into an Orange PPC 112 cab.. any suggestions are welcomed! I'm having fun experimenting.
Great video. My tone is a TC spark set as a clean boost going into a Joyo vintage overdrive with drive, volume and tone at 10 o clock. Magical combination. The Joyo VO is a really sweet pedal.
That's an awesome combo. I've heard great things about the joyo vintage overdrive! The spark and VO must be a pretty versatile combo! Thanks for watching mate! You may have given me an idea for a future video ;)
@@AlexisGuitars It's basically how Allan Holdsworth gets his midrange tone. The secret is the sweet spot using the guitar volume and tone control first. You have to use your ear. It's just cascaded overdrive with not too much gain. I'm going to stack another Tubescreamer after my Joyo to smooth it even further. The great thing is by cascading them properly you reduce a lot of noise too whilst 'Gaining' sustain.
Interesting! And thank you for the Allan Holdsworth introduction. I just checked out some videos - what a musician! Fantastic.
i use OCD Vers.4(before) e ts9(after) for many many years and for me it's better: because the sound is very cream!!
Cool! Do you normally use both pedals together all the time? Or do you use the OCD as the "always on" and boost it with the ts9 for example?
@@AlexisGuitars I use both pedals together all the time only when I RUN ON SOLOS...BUT sometime singularly ONE AT A TIME, but it's dipends! Sometime use also the classic boss ds1(before always) and ts9 after. when run the solos i play IN 2 MOD: 1)OCD into TS9 or DS1 into TS9.
I ASSURE YOU THAT I TESTED THOUSANDS OF DISTORSOR / OVERDRIVES BUT IN THE END I WENT BACK TO THESE THREE(DS1-OCD-TS9)
haha well the classics are classics for a reason! I also keep things simple with overdrives, for years I only used an OCD and a clean boost for solos, then switched to a TS when I got an amp with a better dirt channel
@@AlexisGuitars I'm planning to put this configuration: fuzz--rat--Ts--ds1--OCD--Ts, what do you think?
That sounds like a really versatile gain-rig. Nice! I really like the idea of a TS before and after. I've toyed with that idea in the past. What fuzz are you using?
I use the ocd going into the ts but I’m going to switch it for a bit. Thanks you
Always fun experimenting with something new!
Switched it last-night.. ts into ocd. Felt better. Thanks
That's awesome, glad you found this video helpful!
For me I run a TS in the middle of my chain. It cuts the lows and highs, given it’s EQ characteristics. I find that is needed sometimes!
So usually all low gain first like Blues Breaker and Klon…Then a TS to cut the lows and highs to focus on mids. If I want a boost I can use the Blues Breaker into it.
However I like my TS in front of any high gain drives to goose it and for leads!
I see a lot of people run a TS first before low gain drives, and I find it a bit weird. Because they say they do it to retain the lows and highs. And use the TS as a boost to the mids. At that point might as well as do the BB>Klon combo. Because by not liking the EQ of the TS and avoiding it…do you really need a TS? Why not get a full band EQ boost and set the mids higher as a first pedal then?
I go morning glory(Klon after is optional) then TS and my heavier gain pedals like Rat or DLS to push for solo or more gain. I like the TS to cut out my low gain lows and Highs for Rhythm cut, as well as a cool old school flavor. The Strokes use a Jekyl and Hyde with a boost or Klon in front. Or a boost on each side of the pedal. It’s a thinner mid sound..but it sounds cool. They made that the main sound of the band! Maybe because no one else was using a TS EQ sound as a main pedal.
I usually see many Indie Rock players with a light gain Transparent OD like a Blues Breaker as a pint of break up. Tubescreamer then heavy drives last. Optionally if you really one a high mid range solo boost…use a Treble Booster as a first pedal!
But I find TS after low gain combos like BB and Klon. Then TS before heavy like RAT, DLS or Crunch Box. That way you get the best of both worlds, and can use the low gains to focus a TS pedal! I don’t get why people put the TS first to avoid the EQ cut on low gain…just get a spark boost with EQ and boost the mids then.
If the OCD is cranked, then yeah put the TS behind it as a MIAB pedal. TS slay in front of high gain pedals. But in front of low gain, it loses its EQ stack and seems pointless to me. Because then you can only run the mix cut sound of the TS by itself! Unless you want to add a boost to the front of it. But if low gain already up front..that is your boost!
Thanks for that! Since making this video I only really stack a TS into a higher gain drive. I normally just keep my lower gain pedals set to where I like them so they each do different things. Still a whole world of tone/gain stacking for me to discover
@@AlexisGuitars yeah there’s no wrong way. But I see so many buy a TS, hate the thin sound and then place it first in chain before low gain. As we know your last stack pedal will be the EQ.
I find having a morning glory first at point of break is great for a base sound. Maybe put a boost first then the MG and set the EQ, to do whatever. The TS after low gain I find it works well, to push out in the band. And you can use that light breakup gain to make it more focused whether a BB style or a boost. But a TS into heavy drive is great for juicing thing up, and soloing. I dunno I find mid focus goosed up a bit to be really cool for Rhythm parts in a band. Also you can explore new sounds with this. And your not losing anything because you can use the TS to boost the next gainstage after. That works for me well! But yeah I find a cheap Spark with EQ would do better in front of a Low gain pedal if you want that…because then you can control his much highs, mids and lows you want…along with more gain push.
So to me it just makes since! But if it’s your only two pedals, I could see having the TS first depending on style and genre. But if someone want a mid boost for solos…dude a treble boost will do it! Like a Beano or something. Seriously the TB is my favorite underrated pedal for that kind of stuff. It works on every pedal…and some songs I just keep it on the entire time!
Tube screamer into ocd sounds best to My ear
Yes I agree! Brings it all up a gear when you boost with a TS in front
I run play(live) manager years with: ocd(vers.4) INTO TS9! The sound is moore cream..for me
Many years..sorry
That's awesome. It's been a while since I've tried it so I'll definitely try ocd into TS again. Thanks for watching mate. Do you use it with humbuckers or singe coils mostly?
@@AlexisGuitars I use e Fender strat 1994 with 2 Texas special and 1 jb seymour duncan HUMBACKER on bridge
@@pirandelloluigi1223 Nice, I love HSS strats
Great video! When you use TS to boost before OCD, do you get more volume? Or just more gain? Thanks!
More gain
Awesome demo ! ⭐⭐⭐👍
Thank you Richard!
Good!!! Thanks Alexis!!
Thanks mate!!
@@AlexisGuitars tube before OCD but if u try a BB preamp before OCD is the best mix i found nice video.
@George Irisarri Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it! I have been looking into getting a preamp. Thanks for the tip! I'm going to be doing more pedal stacking videos in the future if you're interested
Great vid! Subscribed!
Thank you mate! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Should I get this tube screamer for my EHX Metal muff with boost and stack it ? I’m a noob and love making my tone sound tighter
I can't answer this one I'm afraid. I'm not a fuzz user! Thanks for watching
2:35 are you playing last child by Aerosmith also great playing
Thanks! It was just a riff I came up with... At least I thought it was one of mine 😂 need to listen to last child and see whether I've unintentionally plagiarised!
@@AlexisGuitars also what riff are you playing @ 3:24
@@redstrat5976 also one of my own :) I jam to it in another video of mine, "the glove review"
great vid. did u find that the ts into the ocd increased sustain/thickness of tone? thanks
Thank you Matt. Yes you can increase the sustain by stacking these two. You can certainly get a bigger but still tight tone with the TS into the Ocd
OD>DIST = Boosts gain
DIST>OD = Boosts volume
That's the simple rule, but you also need to consider eq changes. The TS after OcD doesn't just boost volume it completely changed the tone.
@@AlexisGuitars 😲
nice comparison of tones
Thank you Guilherme! Did you prefer the TS before or after?
Can these two stacked get you into a high gain territory? Not modern metal gain, but some hard rock sounds, like Alice in chains, etc?
Hi mate, in my opinion you can get some great high gain rock tones. I'd personally use the TS into the OCD, with the TS set high volume low gain and the OCD set gain noon or slightly higher. Can't say specifically for Alice in chains as I'm only familiar with some of their bigger songs, but TS and OCD together is very versatile imo
Hey..can i ask a question..which should u prefer...ocd fulltone with ep booster. .or turbo tube screamer with ep booster?
Hi Felix, I've not tried the EP booster, though it's been on my wish list for years. I'm sure it all sounds good, but I'd be interested to hear it with the OCD for more versatility, but like I said, I haven't tried it!
@@AlexisGuitars love to see it wjen u do a video combining ep booster with ocd or turbo tube screamer..thanks for the reply..hope u will do a video bout ..coz iv been torn between rhose two..the ocd and the turbo tube screamer
muito bom, gostei 🤘🏻 🇧🇷
Some nice tones
in general. Kind of Iommish at times. Good combo of pedals.
Thank you! Yes I find this combo at the right settings perfect for hard rock / early metal tones. Thanks for watching
Thanks so much .
You are very welcome :) thank you for watching
Have you try
boss bd2 >ts9
Ts9>bd2
I haven't! But I'd love to try some classic boss pedals. Do you prefer the boss before the TS or after?
Ts9,before OCD is my setup
Great tones
TS before OCD is better
Definitely with you on that one! Thanks for watching
cant go wrong between the 2,
Can you do this exact video with humbuckers? Haha
Haha I'll see what I can do :) thanks for watching!
Strong hand gestures
Lol I know. I've calmed them down a bit in recent videos. Kind of 🤣
tube screamer and klon clone , which should comes first
That seems to be one of the favourite combos! What klon clone do you recommend I check out?
The cheap one Mosky golden horse
and the quite expensive Wampler Tumnus. was wondering where to place the Tube screamer (before or after the clone)
Ah sorry I misread your comment. I can't say which should come first, but if I were putting a pedalboard together id be inclined to try out the TS first, but I'd have to try out both ways and see!
@@AlexisGuitars thanks man!
Tube screamer before the ocd much better tone
Absolutely! Thanks for watching
Thanks! And just to be helpful, if I was in the room with you I would’ve had a hard time Not cutting yer arms off. Yer not Italian are ya? Anyway, it was helpful.
Glad it was helpful but I can't say I understand the cutting off the arms comment! And no I'm not italian
I am searching those amazing Tone TS into OCD HP in one single pedal.
That would be awesome! I haven't tried a pedal that is based on these two together, but maybe have a look at the Jam Double dreamer. It's basically a TS and a higher gain pedal all in one with lots of options. I haven't tried one, but I think it's my dream pedal haha. Thanks for watching mate!
Edit: the TS comes after in that pedal, so maybe not quite what you're looking for!
You should really check out the Analogworm OD 808 mkII dual pedal. It’s got loads of routing/tone options on board - analogworm.ru/product/od808mk2/. Might need a Google translate though;)
I just watched a UA-cam demo of this pedal. Sounds great! Really versatile too. Thanks for the tip! Never heard of Analogworm before
@@AlexisGuitars you're welcome! I ran into them, when I realized I was after ocd+ts in one pedal. Seen other options later but at 2x+ price, so pulled the trigger with Analogworm.
Oh and btw liked your content. This seems like a fresh new channel. Good luck with the journey, I'd be tempted to follow.
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TS before !!!!
TS first, OCD second. By far.
Absolutely!
For me it's before...
Same here! It adds so much to the tone. Do you have a favourite combo of overdrives to stack?