You missed a win, the fact that Hawkeye actually named his son after Quicksilver, it says his son's middle name is Pietro. Just think that at some time in the future, there'll be time Hawkeye explains to his son that he got his middle name from the man who saved his life so he could be there to raise him and be a father.
I like how Ultron's line to Thor about, "Clearly, you've never made an omelet" and Tony's response of, "He was literally... just one second ahead of me" clearly shows that Ultron is Tony's creation. It's just another little thing that confirms that Ultron, as much as he hates it, is Stark Tech.
I think the reason why Ultron hates Tony so much is that he sees that he's nothing but Tony with a different origin. Had tony been in Ultron's place instead of that cave, the world would've been ducked
@@alexp6013 They are both flawed,egoistical, intelligent beings whom both have visions of better future. Both want the Avengers to no longer be required for the safety of the world. Ultron hates Tony because he can’t stand that similarity. Ultron wants to be beyond humanity and beyond Stark creating Vision as a means to do so. Side Note: I think he would have made his own civilization of Vision-like beings.
@@Joawlisdoingfine I think that's what I really enjoy about Ultron in this movie. I've heard people complain that they prefer the usual portrayal of Ultron, with him being highly logical and not very emotional, but I really appreciate this movie's choice. Ultron sees himself as, is trying to be, that highly logical being, but he very clearly isn't. He's Tony's creation, through and through, and inherited lots of traits from him. Almost as if his good qualities are warring with his need to "Protect," or "Improve," the world. Ultron most likely would have been a great ally to the Avengers, most likely similar to Vision but with more sass and snark, similar to Tony, but Tony's paranoia and fear drove him to build a machine that tried to kill those emotions, to be laser focused on it's goal, which ended up creating arguably the biggest threat to Earth that actually came from Earth, and not from space
which could be connected to why Tony responded to Peter's "I just want to be like you" with "and I want you to be better". It could've been Ultron who caused Tony to hate anyone who is "like him", because he sadly turned out to also hate himself. Even when Thanos compared themselves as "cursed with knowledge", Tony just knew he hated his guts. I just love how human Tony is as a fictional character. Every event and side character affected him.
It's awesome that Hawkeye is the one that Black Widows says "ties the team together," and then when they take a hit, they all come back together by being at his house and reforming themselves
I mean, where else are they gonna stay at? Thor lives in a witch and warrior-filled castle in space, Tony in a hundred million dollars high-tech tower, and i have no idea where Natasha, Steve and Banner lived before this movie happened. They needed some normalcy while resting and Clint's house radiates it.
Yah this movie gets so much better after seeing endgame or maybe this makes endgame better idk but still Hawkeye scarlet witch and the hammer tonys vision
Everyone’s here from Endgame talking about Lee predicting Mjolnir. I’m here from WandaVision talking about how he predicted Paul Bettany’s amazing performance as Vision in the show!! Man, that Episode 5 kitchen scene sent chills up my spine.
As CinemaWins also said about that kitchen scene, it gives off some Too Many Cook's vibes and it was great. Bettany did really well as vision but that kitchen scene was a standout performance.
Will wellllll, their motives were for peace, but like the inquisition, holy wars, etc., it creates conflict. The very thing they try to stop. And some people takes what they stand for and go to the extreme. And engines of war basically means the reason for it
Actually Thor’s quote at the end is,as he taps Tony on the chest “With the exception of this one,there’s nothing that can’t be explained.” Which is in some ways even better because it means even a god like Thor can’t find an explanation for Tony being Tony and the fact that Tony doesn’t have an immediate response to that statement so he has to just shrug it off with “That man has no regard for lawn maintenance” after Thor takes off shows that even a genius like Tony has no idea how to respond to the fact that Thor thinks that he is unexplainable.
I thought this movie was already better than the original Avengers, but I know that you're talking about Infinity War and End Game, and in the words of Ultron: ...yeah.
they are different. Infinity War and Endgame are very different from Avengers. And each other. Perhaps this movie was just too similar to Avengers 1? Mostly I expected too much from it; I blame the commercial.
@@tyrant-den884 I don't know. I felt the first one was more focused on the novelty of the connected universe from the five movies before it and granting us many beautiful moments of the Avengers being introduced to each other and uniting under a common enemy. This one, while giving us one last big moment at the start, had mostly moved past that and was more focused on putting them in a genuine moral conflict. Forcing the heroes to confront their darkest secrets, repressed pasts, and worst fears, as well as imposing the question of whether or not they're what's best for the world. Ultron is a very different villain from Loki, and for a superhero franchise, that means the movie itself is different. Then we get to Infinity War and it manages to combine the best of the two: the novelty of the connected universe on an even larger scale while facing a villain that poses some hard questions. As for Endgame.... If you haven't seen it, I won't say anything, but if you have, I shouldn't have to.
I wish CinemaWins acknowledged the similarity with Stark and Ultron in this movie. In the first Iron man, tony says “I don’t have anyone else” when pepper is disgusted because of implementing the new arc reactor in his chest, same as when Ultron says “I don’t have anyone else” before showing Black Widow the new body he created. Just another example of Ultron saying something Stark did.
Yeah, that was something that I think really sells Ultron as a Villain. In the comics, Ultron is Hank Pym's personality without his humanity, all the arrogance, cruelty and envy is just what Pym feels without any filters. (Similarly Vision is the de-emotioned version of Wonder Man and Jocasta is derived from Wasp's mind. Note that those two? Not villains.) Here, Ultron's grandstanding, snarky humor and general approach to problem solving (build a better set of armor/self) are all Tony's. In many ways I feel what the Mind Gem did was give his dream a form. So much of how he's written and acted is childlike...almost as without Jarvis'/Tony's years of existence and interaction with humanity he lashes out at what he can't understand. There is a very heavy element of Frankenstein in Tony rejecting his own creation/child, and being rejected in turn.
This is why Marvel is so successful , they blend action, suspense and comedy do well... something that is almost impossible to do, because the comedy always comes off as forced and not fitting to the situation, but they have made every joke, gag and pun fit so perfectly that it would be hard to imagine this movies without them.
"No matter how jaded and cynical I become, I pray I can enjoy sequences like this until the day I die. Because if you never feel that little kid inside you jumping up and down in front of the screen, you're watching movies wrong!" - Cinema Wins Absolutely beautiful statement! Thank you for that
Am I the only one who actually LOVES Hawkeye? He has some really funny moments, especialy in this movie and he is a deep and well developed charachter in general.
Does anyone else want CinemaSins and Wins to do a collaboration video and get to the conclusion of zero sins and Wins because of it constantly going up and down? that would be awesome.
i legitimately feel like cinemasins has no idea what to do with deadpool. it's damn near unsinable because every "sin" in the movie is a self aware joke about the type if shit they normally sin.
No mention to Wanda’s (Scarlet Witch) reaction of seeing her twin brother die right in front of her? Her reaction had me crying even more than I already was. Elizabeth Olsen absolutely killed this scene and I can’t imagine anybody else playing her role.
Hawkeye’s pep talk to Scarlett Witch might be the most “Marvel” moment in the entire MCU. It simultaneously pokes fun at the ridiculousness of the situation and provides some nice comic relief, but is simultaneously heartfelt, impactful, and incredibly well done.
I think the reason the MCU future setups in their movies don't bother me is because they aren't as in your face as the DC universe. heck with the haters, Age of Ultron was another great Marvel flick, showing that they know what they're doing with so many movies to connect together
Another reason they don't bother me is that the whole point of an interconnected universe is so you reference events that have happened elsewhere, making it all feel like one world. Of course Ultron would want to build a body out of vibranium. Having him pursue that isn't an advertisement, it's a logical step.
Agreed. Not to mention that it's kind of the core of the whole MCU. When Nick Fury showed up after the credits in IM1, people lost their goddamn minds. It was the first time anything like this had been attempted, and it worked! Granted, some people have superhero fatigue. I did, myself, for a while there. Didn't see a single hero movie between IM3 and Thor Ragnarok besides the Guardians films. But Ragnarok and IW reminded me why I loved heroes so much...so I rewatched the whole MCU in the span of one week.
Yeah, I've barely read Marvel comics in my childhood apart from a few Spider-Man ones, so these kinds of things don't really bug me. Plus, hey, it's a movie universe that's constantly setting up future adventures. What's not to love about that?
"Who cares if they can't decide whether the shield absorbs or deflects." My theory is that it absorbs. It's just that Thor's hammer is a little more than even the shield can handle, so any excess energy ripples out from the point of impact and gets "ejected" from the rim.
The shield stops anything and the hammer goes through anything, the shield stops the hammer by dispersing the unbelievable amount of energy through the shield and out the edges.
Ah, give him a break. None of us could see that coming. Not Quicksilver, not Hawkeye, not any theorizer, no one. It was the one option that was just blocked off from our brains because... it was too much. There was no way our minds would have been able to comprehend that scene without the rest of Endgame leading up to it, plus the visual aid of it actually happening, plus ultra Alan Silvestri's piece of resistance, "Portals". What a scene.
You know, it's funny that people were so pressed that this was a setup movie in the timeline, but it really was a required part of the MCU, every bridge needs it's keystone, and the events in this movie were a huge turning point in the canon. Without it, you have no reason for the Accords, which means we would have no Civil War (also no trolley dilemma style debate between the avengers to cause a part of the rift that causes Team Cap to go rogue), and without Civil War we don't have Spider-Man's intro to the MCU. Hulk wouldn't have ended up on Sakaar, and we wouldn't have a huge chunk of Ragnarok. There would have been little foreshadowing to Wakanda/Black Panther, not to mention the Infinity Stones in the vision
Indeed this really was a set up movie but it definitely wasn't the best. There are just too many plot points and action scenes going on in the movie to really understand what was happening. Even if it did set up Civil war and the future phase 3 movies , it could've done so in a way that was more original and intriguing
@@matthewquach2705 well I've watched it 5 times and I don't see it having those issues it's so incredibly fun your just being greedy and asking for more in a good movie
SPQSpartacus I think the Thor and black widow movie predictions where more impressive, I mean who didn’t notice the lil nudge when capped lifted the hammer
Says a lot about humanity, doesn't it? There are good people... But the egocentric, materialistic people and polititians, makes you want to side for at least a minute with Ultron~
The movie is good, but ultron is not. He was so ducking weak it ruined the movie. And they fucking made him a standup comedian. If they did ultron right the movie would of been nearly flawless
Same here. I utterly loved every second of this movie and I am sooo not into the MCU....or any comic franchise for that matter. Well, except 2000AD but how much of that have we had? ;)
I'm sure I'm not the only one who loved AOU more than the first Avengers. Because I really do. The first one showed how a team was built. This shows how a team works! Loved this movie loads! Credit to CinemaSins, Marvel and definitely, Joss Whedon!
I loved this movie. I was expecting it to be one of those "eh" kind of films. But when I finally did watch it, I was blown away by the complexity of all the characters, (including ultron) and how the two characters in avengers that people weren't huge fans of improved greatly. (Hawkeye and Captain america)
2 improved on everything in 1 imo though I would have prefferred a longer Thor vs Hulk fight or Hulk vs Team fight over a long Hulk vs Hulk Buster fight
Let's talk about the fact that widow and banner aren't cannon? Winterwidow is the ship in the comics and should have been that way in the movies instead they set Natasha up with almost everyone
... You do realize that the movies are on a different timeline than the comics? It's Earth-199999 in Marvel multiverse while Earth-616 is the main Comics timeline. Different canon.
When did this movie become a "failure", anyway? It made a ton of money and the critics lauded it. I absolutely love it. Some of it is so beautiful it makes me cry.
Because of the way Ultron was portrayed. in the comics he's the type of threat that you needed to time travel in order to defeat. in the movie he felt like only a country level threat.
I love how Cap's comment on losing together gets a pay-off in endgame. And it's not the pay-off you'd expect. It's a bleak and heartbreaking one, but a pay-off all the same
Absolutely. Pretty much everything is a payoff in that movie. It’s a love letter to MCU fans and it’s absolutely beautiful. I seriously don’t know how they could have ended the franchise better. Even the dumb shit was paid off. Endgame may not be the best movie, it’s not even a movie, but it was a theater experience like no other and I wouldn’t have done it any different.
I wish you would have talked about Scarlet Witch's scene after quicksilver had been killed. It was such a heart wrenching moment that deserves some recognition
SuperGuerrero79 I think you mean the world. I will always have too questions. 1: How the actual hell did humans live this long? And 2: when will we have another world war? Anyways, this channel is great. Maybe even a new drug of mine... (Goodbye.)
Eh, depends on where you look. I do agree this is a pretty positive channel, but I find myself laughing more with Cinemasins and getting into a almost depressed mindset towards the end of some of the videos lol
6:28 I have to laugh because this moment in the film is hilarious but telling characterization: there really was no need for Pietro to grab the hammer, he just saw something coming at him and went for it because "Ooh! Shiny!" Edit: I also have to laugh at Wanda & Pietro's reactions at 5:54 bc I feel like most 18 year olds would react that way. Pietro can't really believe that just happened & Wanda is . . . vaguely grossed out. Granted, they've probably seen worse having been experiments for Hydra, but they're general reaction of "Oh, shit." is very characteristic of millenials/Gen Z as a whole.
Seems to be a habit of his, he didn't need to gather Hawkeyes arrows in the first battle, nor grab Mjolnir, but he did it for the style points. I mean really, if you were a speedster, wouldn't you be constantly going for style points?
I still don't understand why that Thor scene bothered anyone. Had they not put it in, then Thor's decision to wake Vision up would have made no sense. Not to mention that these actions all tie in to Ragnarok, and a day later, Thanos. Also, James Spader did a perfect job capturing the essence of everything that influenced Ultron into what he is in the movie. He's one of the better Marvel villains imo.
@@shanez1215 Where do you get that idea from? Why would Thor and the Asgardians be flying around in that ship for a year before Thanos tracked them down? You don't think they would have found a new home already?
@@nightowl9818 We dont know how long it took Thor to arrive at Sakaar. Loki, who got kicked out of the Bifrost by Hela only seconds prior to Thor arrived there weeks befor. After Thor arrives on Sakaar, the rest of the movie except the end credit scene cant have taken more than a few days, 1 week max. Lets assume the american movie release date, November 3rd as the date given. Adding a couple of weeks, lets take 6 weeks as Loki didnt say "months", and add the 1 week the movie takes place in on Sakaar, we get a date between christmas and new year for the final battle on Asgard. If we now take IW's american release date as the beginning of the movie, April 27th, the Asguardians must have spent monts on that ship. And with the introduction of the "jump points" in GotG2 and Cpt. Marvel as widely known "highways" in the universe, it seems unlikely they didnt find one of them. 2 points to make there: 1. The ship was damaged after the battle on Asgard, so maybe the engine that enables jumping was damaged beyond repair. 2. The ship doesnt seem to be made for fast traveling and may not be able to jump, or battle as it doesnt have weapons, as stated in the begining of IW.
I wanna win that creepy af version of “I got no strings” they played for this trailer. Super intense. I love a good creepy music that turns something innocent/nostalgic on its head.
Ultron’s dialogue is very underrated though I have to admit that if it had been anyone else other than James Spader delivering the lines the character would not have been nearly as great. When watching “What If..?” and hearing Ultron with a voice other than James Spader, something noticeable was immediately lost. The more that I think about it, the more Ultron actually seems more intimidating and threatening to me than even Thanos does. I still think Thanos was a better character overall, but Ultron’s “darkness” was very uncharacteristic of the template that the MCU used for their villains both before and after Age of Ultron. The closest would be Jeff Goldblum’s character but even then the two performances are nowhere close. Ultron’s playfulness is incredibly unsettling in not so obvious ways, and sometimes in obvious ways. Even when he is losing.
17:00 The scene where Hawkeye says along the lines of "I could do it and nobody would know. Yeah the last time I saw the bastard Ultron was standing on top of him." When Quicksilver leaves him behind and he just points his bow after him. That was probably my favorite moment of the film. It was so funny and it really pushed along their little relationship that had formed all movie with them saying snippy lines at each other. He still clashes with him but he's starting to care a little. And then it pays off so much with Quicksilver sacrificing himself for Hawkeye.
@@fcchelsea136 yep. I don't remember where I saw it but I'm 99.99% it's true seriously they need to bring that guy more in the spotline, he's an amazing and underrated actor.
And how ultron was on top of him (or above him at least) was great too. Or how in caps speech “you die walk it off” the camera goes to quicksilver. Also quicksilvers power comes from his legs
@@clarkbarrett6274 Good on you for correcting the guy who thought he was correcting someone else (even though I personally feel that contractions should count as one word so I disagreed with him from the beginning)
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Ultron is most likely my favorite Marvel supervillain so far. He is a malicious person bent on destroying the world, however, he has these amazingly beautiful human moments with Scarlet Witch, etc.. When you see these moments it's like he's hesitating or having guilt/regret over what he's doing... He comes across as a confused child sometimes for his unpredictable nature and warping sense of reality, justice, peace, etc... When rewatching it I personally almost feel bad for Ultron sometimes... maybe it's because of the voice actor or his nature in general... But he is a believable villain who has a goal and has reasons for accomplishing that goal. As I mentioned before there are some very 'human' moments with Ultron. When he's talking to Blackwidow about being alone or pleading with Scarlet witch to not betray him... I'll even go so far as to say he may have even liked Scarlet witch. Think about it, he was uploading his AI into the Vision when it was taken back by the Avengers... So some of his programming/feelings/memories are within the Vision... And we know the Vision is falling in love with Scarlet, so it's not that unbelievable. Ultron delivers some pretty funny lines and casual philosophical arguments to back up his 'mission'. And Ultrons mission is actually a very believable one... He wants to save the world from itself, I feel like over the course of the movie his interpretation of what that means changes. In the beginning, he just wants to destroy the Avengers thus making it so the world will not have super heroes. After scarlet witch betrays him he turns to his backup goal, causing a great extinction so life can begin anew... His end goal was to shape the world in his image... Which is something Tony all be it somewhere deep inside him shares that belief... The mirrors between Tony and Ultron are sometimes subtle yet totally believable. Tony can't tell the difference between saving the world and destroying it, he's paranoid about the vision he saw and after what happened in new york it's believable he would be. Tony's entire story is him dealing with tremendous guilt, the realization of what his weapons are really being used for, the fear of the unknown and the feeling of being so small in the massive MCU universe. He isn't like Thor or Cap. Cap was trained to handle the stress that comes after battles and Thor have actual powers. Tony is just a human with a suit on with no military training. Of course, he would have PTSD or other stress/medical effects after being in a fire fight as big as the first Avengers was. While this side of Tony is more prevalent in Civil War its startings are still shown here. And Ultron mirrors Tony's mental state perfectly while still being unique as a character... He isn't one dimensional like some of the Marvels villains are, He has these heart stabbing human moments mixed in with Tonys emotional and mental state and unpredictability as well as his own agenda and interpretation of his 'mission'. Yeah, so that's why Ultron is my all time favorite Marvel villain so far.I don't say favorite of all time Because the Dark knights Joker is up there, but I say he's my favorite Marvel villain of all time. (Least until i see Thanos in action that is)
Jessie Reacts ... Loki killed 80 people in two days. I really don't see him as an anti-hero, which is why his role in Ragnarok rubbed me the wrong way. I hope we see Loki's dark side some more in the future (cuz we agree, he's not really dead ...right?)
another point that often come up in hater speak is "quips" everyone bitched and botched about "quips" to the point that i frankly got sick of hearing the word. and this is especially true of ultron. but while he was sarcastic, I felt most everything he was chilling to the bone. cold and downright scary. he makes observation that often achingly accurate and often makes you wonder if he has a point. then other times he says things out of a cold, unfeeling ignorance. sure he had a few good one liners, but overall stuff that he was nothing to laugh at. and about the avengers as a whole. honestly, joking makes things more natural. people joke in dire situations, its a coping mechanism that helps keep people from going insane. think of military soldiers, they have a level of dark humor that most would find offputting. it often gets a pass in war films because they ARE films, but its very real. in the end it humanizes these characters and grounds them. the unrealistic thing is the ton of ultra serious films in which everyone is an unfeeling robot with no sense of humor at all.
Captain Jakemerica I'd imagine for two reasons. First, I've seen a criticism that they're a lazy substitute for personality and 'better' forms of comedy. Second is the idea that they detract from the seriousness of a situation and/or muddle the tone of a movie. I don't necessarily agree, but those are the possible reasons I can think of.
Quips are fine, but like any tool used in a film, they can be overused. And I definitely think they are overused. More than that, though, they almost always result in bathos, where all the suspense of the scene is released. But not in a cathartic, satisfying way, more anticlimactic and unsatisifying. Whenever they crack a joke whilst fighting for their life, it’s a hint to the audience that there’s no real danger or stakes, so I personally can never get invested. It’s like how in Civil War, all the great action was moot once Black Widow said “We’re still friends, right?” because I knew that they were pulling their punches. All of cinema’s best action comes from a feeling that the hero is in danger and could die, and the constant quipping in a Marvel film nullifies that. Now, that’s not to say it’s never appropriate. If you want to show how confident and skilled your hero is, say in the film’s first action scene, quipping is great! But in the climax, where we’re supposed to fear the villain and be afraid for our hero’s safety, non-stop quipping can be really detrimental.
And yet in the final battle we had quipping AND someone died, showing us how real this is. These are superheroes. They're fighters, they're people, they have humour, and they can still die despite that.
Pendragon Yeah, it's gotten really tiresome listening to the "overly comedic" complaints over and over again. And to make matters worse, it's no longer just Marvel getting that criticism on a constant basis, now even Star Wars is getting that kind of hate. At some point, you have to question why movies even have comedy at all if people are just going to complain about it all the damn time.
I hate how everyone gives Pietro shit for not being fast enough to dodge the bullets in the end. If you look closely, the car he moved into position took a large number of the bullets. Plus, they were from a Quinjet-mounted machine gun. There is no reason he should be getting the amount of hate he is.
Have you noticed the couple of running jokes in the MCU? The first being "Language" that started with Cap, went to Fury, Then to Hill, and then to Star Lord in GotG2. Also starting in Thor him getting plastered to a pane of glass or window moving on to Thor 2, and Thor 3, and then Avengers: Infinity War. Can you hind any more and then do a everything great about continuity humor in the MCU, please?!
It's SO much more fun. I'm very very close to un-subbing from Cinema Sins. Imo they used to be funny and bring up good points, but now they're just really annoying. I love a good critique, but they're overly negative and assholeish.
Rewatching this for the umpteenth time and it is so glorious to get to 7:25 and realise that it may have taken 5yrs amid a global pandemic, but we finally have Hawkeye-centric MCU content... and it is awesome.
Am I the only one who thinks AOU is much better movie upon repeated viewing?? I watched it like 6 to 7 times and I think it gets better on each viewing. This movie will age gracefully.
Jeremy is such a great actor. And hawkeye is bad ass. I understand he's basically useless but he's still a badass archer. I really hope Clint "dies" and becomes Ronin
I also would like if Jermey showed up in a black widow movie, maybe a supporting character. Heck maybe Ant Man & The Wasp. Make him "die" in that movie and come back as Ronin in infinity war.
I loved him in this film SO much more than in the first. Especially that part where scarlet witch is about to mind voodoo him and he just hits her in the head with an arrow.
I think Nat's line "I'm always picking up after you boys" should've been recognized because it's such a good line! one of my favorite one-liners in, well anything lol
CinemaWins: "Could anything ever be ass good or as cool as the first time the avengers assemble? Probably not." Russo Brothers: "Hold my clapperboard."
It's a shame we had to wait til Thor's third solo movie for someone to unlock Chris' comedic potential because, like you said, he always had it, he just needed the right director. At the same time Thor the dark world has loki on board for some comic relief and the film suits a more serious tone from Thor. So maybe Thor's story happened at the right pace in which case, I don't know what I'm complaining about
Personally, I thought Age of Ultron was the superior film. The Avengers was kind of a dumb popcorn flick that sought solely to entertain. Age of Ultron was also kind of a popcorn flick, but it also raised a lot of questions about the integrity of our heroes, who the real threat is to the world, philosophy on existence, and all sorts of other good stuff to satisfy semi-pretentious film snobs (like myself) the world over.
And in combination with the more varied set pieces, a great take on the beloved sci-fi AI theme AND managing to balance all these characters and keep the drama relevant with the action. I personally thought this was not just the superior movie, but the vastly superior movie, hold together by a way greater sense for what makes movies feel dramatic (Don't know why I am posting this like it is relevant to anyone, I guess your line about 'semi-pretentious movie snobs' holds water).
The contrast between Ultron and Jarvis / Vision is also a highlight in my opinion. Both of these 'AI's' believe what they do is the right thing to do. Ultron is correct to believe that the biggest threat to humans is humans. But he only sees the evil and corruption, and not the purity and love that Vision sees. Although he does feel love and empathy. Poetic that the two characters that made Ultron feel human ended up betraying him.
Ikrani personally I felt the question about the reason for the hero's existence. to live in a world where I could one day see enhanced out of no where, I would be scared. what if the world had disagreements? this film brings up many questions.
Should have been a win for Capt tearing the wood block apart with his bare hands. Also based on the end banter on worthiness, I think Captain America was actually trying to lift the hammer but couldn't. He shifted it showing that he can be worthy, but people believe because it was in competition that that's why he couldn't lift it. However if it was for saving people/his friends, he would have been able to.
The best part about rewatching this movie now is seeing Wanda and Vision in the beginning. It’s crazy to see how far these two characters (and their actors) have come. They’re truly the emotional heart of the MCU.
I really hope you don't become cynical and jaded, because then, your channel would just turn into a better copy of CinemaSins. And I don't know about other people, but I'm here for the positivity and actual research and thoughtful reasoning behind your videos. CinemaSins was somewhat good at the start, but now, they're just bashing for bashing sake's and it's not funny anymore. Your positivity is always appreciated :)
Friedrich Nietzsche, a German philosopher. "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
Listen, Age of Ultron was my favourite film because it had the perfect balance of the Avengers being friends while maintaining conflict. I may be stuck in the 2015 era of "Everyone hangs out at the Avengers Tower and they trust each other and are actual friends" but c'mon, you can't say the splitting of the team in the movies to follow didn't make you sad as fuck.
1:27 Actually if you remember from the first Avengers, Cap's shield didn't absorb Mjolnir's blow, it in fact dispersed it in all directions destroying the closeby forrest. It is safe to assume since then Cap and Thor learned to direct that shockwave in any way they like.
Tony Stark (Iron Man 3): “We create our own demons.” Ultron (Avengers: Age of Ultron): “We all create the thing we dread...” I feel like with this reference that Ultron is really just the evil side of Tony’s PTSD, find it interesting that the two say something very similar like this. There may not be any relation between the two, but nonetheless it’s still an interesting think to see when rewatching these movies and seeing what Tony has gone through over the years being Iron Man and wanting to hang up the suit to protect the world by other means.
I have a rebuddle to 4:10 about how Steve could have raised the hammer and chose not to. This was before Civil War so one can easily say that it could have been true at the time. Steve has always had the moral high ground in any given situation but this is after the Winter Soldier so it means this is after Steve learned the truth about Bucky killing Tony's parents. Steve was there having a party with Tony laughing and joking and fighting by his side and lying to him about knowing the truth all this time. The one bit of moral ambiguity caused Steve to be pure enough to get a reaction but just dirty enough not to be worthy.
I've got a rebuttal to that. Based on what we've seen in the Thor movies I don't think the hammer judges worthiness based on any sort of moral "purity" (or that worth can be quantified in any sort of way as a sin-list, but that's a meta-joke-discussion-thing for another time), seeing how Thor had been through his fair share of dark bits, waywardness, and dirtiness before being worthy of the hammer again. I'm not sure if you've seen Ragnarok yet, but for the sake of argument, they've made it a point throughout the series that Thor's hammer should not be treated as a magical macguffin like the biblical Samson's hair. Instead, the hammer judges worthiness based on another scale. While much can be said for Thor's integrity and character above, say, Tony's, what positive character traits does Thor have that Cap doesn't? What could the hammer possibly be looking at that says Steve Rogers isn't as worthy to lead Asgard as Thor? (Ragnarok could actually answer that question, but this query is within the context of 2014- I'm not sure the story brains behind the MCU knew that during the drafting of the Avengers:AOU script) Cap is the "perfect" everyman leader in this film, lol. Also this next bit is a legitimate question, not rhetoric: Does Cap learn of Bucky killing Tony's parents directly after or during CA:TWS? I remember in Civil War he still had to ask Bucky why he saved him from the river and that was at the end of TWS, implying they hadn't spoke since...had Bucky told Cap about the Starks offscreen or something?
I just also think it makes it a cool character point for Cap to realize in the moment that he CAN lift the hammer, he just chooses not to to keep Thor's confidence and the team's confidence in Thor high. It's definitely something a wise leader would do.
Cap might have the moral high ground sometimes, then sometimes not. He had a few decisions I don't agree with here and there, and also he often can't see the forest behind the tree... It's nice and all that in the comics he could lift(or budge? i really can't call it back...) the hammer, but those rules don't apply here... And now, that I have 7 months advantage let us look at Civil War. Vision did say that signing the Accords was sensible, and hell, he was right. What if anyone with an ounce of superpower/high-tech equipment could just go out there and 'crime-fight'? That would be disastrous, I think we can agree to that... Steve portrays misses that, and tbh he has a point. Still, this ambiguity and his disregard for any kind of future development and obliviousness makes him not worthy in my eyes(before anyone attacks _me_ personally, I just wanna say, I'm not a marvel character, so no, I couldn't do better)
"Do you see it? The Inevitability? You, Avengers.... are my meteor. My swift and terrible sword. You Rise.... Only to Fall. And when the dust settles, The only thing left living in this World.... WILL BE METAL."
I’m not sure how to articulate how I felt about lines such as these. They’re not bad, and the delivery was spectacular. You get more honest representations of his genuine thoughts and feelings when he is talking with someone who he genuinely feels is a relatable peer though like Wanda or Vision at the very end of the movie. I understand that its a representation of his wrath in a way which is meant to instill fear with immense totality, but whenever dialogue such as this occurs I can’t help but wonder if the scenes would have been better served by dialogue which carried the same weight and resulted in the same responses but had more of Ultron’s personal depth that can be seen elsewhere in the movie. He is capable of and has demonstrated that he has had deeper philosophical ruminations over things akin to what Vision does. I get that Ultron is a machine, but so is Vision. Ultron’s plans and actions that he pushes forward with are done for emotional reasons; he is a machine that could not cope very well at all with developing (or rather being given) a sense of humanity and what it means to have a soul confined in that type of existence. So now he’s pressing a reset button for the existence around him with the extinction event objective. I think it would have been more powerful to hear dialogue come from that place rather than the dismissive ruthlessness being employed to assert dominance. I realize that it’s meant to be Ultron’s “opposite but equal” response to Tony’s endeavors to control things (suit of armor around the world) to avoid the doomsday scenario from his nightmares, but considering how little screen time Ultron had left, it would have been more effective to offer a glimpse at what was going on with him in a way that would be just as effective but relatable in a more tragic way, or something akin to that in a way that wouldn’t be melodramatic, cheesy, sappy, or whiny. Similar to Thanos’ dialogue in the beginning of Infinity War. “I know what it’s like to lose…” The biblical associations felt out of place too. Throughout the entire film, there was nothing about the character to suggest that he likened himself to either being a god or acting on behalf of the God of Christianity. So those lines of dialogue were very peculiar. Especially when considering that the themes of the film are inconsistent with redemption and salvation. Ultron’s not offering opportunities for anyone to redeem themselves and he isn’t trying to save humanity. So that instances of him incorporating religious themes in very sporadic and inconsistent ways breaks the immersion for me. It’s as if someone said to themselves “Tony is egotistical, so let’s give Ultron an inconsistent god complex” when that was never a component of Tony’s personality to begin with. It felt like an overused villain trope was being shoehorned into the character and not even used consistently enough or given supporting reasons to actually explain why in a reasonably acceptable way. He didn’t believe himself to come into existence as a result of divine intervention, or to have heard the voice of God, or anything else like that. They just decided to tack it on here and there because “Tony can be incredibly narcissistic while thinking very highly of himself”. It didn’t ruin the character and fortunately that type of dialogue doesn’t occur very often in the movie at all. It just resulted in wasted opportunities in the script for better character development. Not everything had to be “like Tony” for the sake of it. That would be like saying “Tony has to be exactly like Howard.”
Just realized when Thor was talking about the drink that “no mortal” could handle and gave Stan Lee and Cap some... the reason cap wasn’t affected was explained in his first movie. It was said the serum made his cells regenerate at such a rate he couldn’t even get drunk (I believe this was after the Erksine died and he went to the bar, tho I’m not sure)
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You missed a win, the fact that Hawkeye actually named his son after Quicksilver, it says his son's middle name is Pietro. Just think that at some time in the future, there'll be time Hawkeye explains to his son that he got his middle name from the man who saved his life so he could be there to raise him and be a father.
WIN!
Also when he shot him through the glass floor
Wait! Doesn't Hawkeye already have a son? You mean there is a second son on the way? I didn't remember that. Thanks
Laura Barton was pregnant with a boy.
girl her name was original natasha
Everyone is talking how he predicted cap lifting the hammer but don’t forget he also predicted hulk going to Sakaar. 14:37
Please go to Sakaar!
Please go to Sakaar!
Please go to Sakaar!
LOL
Don't forget, he also predicted that Hulk would go to Asgard
14:40
@@feng.yanyan he was in asgard in ragnarok
@@evokeedits5563 ....yeah..
*That’s the point*
The inevitable too
I like how Ultron's line to Thor about, "Clearly, you've never made an omelet" and Tony's response of, "He was literally... just one second ahead of me" clearly shows that Ultron is Tony's creation. It's just another little thing that confirms that Ultron, as much as he hates it, is Stark Tech.
I think the reason why Ultron hates Tony so much is that he sees that he's nothing but Tony with a different origin.
Had tony been in Ultron's place instead of that cave, the world would've been ducked
@@alexp6013
They are both flawed,egoistical, intelligent beings whom both have visions of better future. Both want the Avengers to no longer be required for the safety of the world. Ultron hates Tony because he can’t stand that similarity. Ultron wants to be beyond humanity and beyond Stark creating Vision as a means to do so. Side Note: I think he would have made his own civilization of Vision-like beings.
@@Joawlisdoingfine I think that's what I really enjoy about Ultron in this movie. I've heard people complain that they prefer the usual portrayal of Ultron, with him being highly logical and not very emotional, but I really appreciate this movie's choice. Ultron sees himself as, is trying to be, that highly logical being, but he very clearly isn't. He's Tony's creation, through and through, and inherited lots of traits from him. Almost as if his good qualities are warring with his need to "Protect," or "Improve," the world. Ultron most likely would have been a great ally to the Avengers, most likely similar to Vision but with more sass and snark, similar to Tony, but Tony's paranoia and fear drove him to build a machine that tried to kill those emotions, to be laser focused on it's goal, which ended up creating arguably the biggest threat to Earth that actually came from Earth, and not from space
which could be connected to why Tony responded to Peter's "I just want to be like you" with "and I want you to be better". It could've been Ultron who caused Tony to hate anyone who is "like him", because he sadly turned out to also hate himself. Even when Thanos compared themselves as "cursed with knowledge", Tony just knew he hated his guts.
I just love how human Tony is as a fictional character. Every event and side character affected him.
@@alexp6013 like he is stark in a way...
It's awesome that Hawkeye is the one that Black Widows says "ties the team together," and then when they take a hit, they all come back together by being at his house and reforming themselves
And how ironic is it that the only Avengers movie he's not in ; Infinity War ; saw the Avengers lose to Thanos
I mean, where else are they gonna stay at? Thor lives in a witch and warrior-filled castle in space, Tony in a hundred million dollars high-tech tower, and i have no idea where Natasha, Steve and Banner lived before this movie happened.
They needed some normalcy while resting and Clint's house radiates it.
@@mehdimoueddene7642 …..that’s not ironic….it’s at best a just….true, or consequential
@@mehdimoueddene7642 he was the only avenger not in that movie and I was so upset. At least he was in civil war.
So true.
“My theory is that Cap could actually lift the hammer and will eventually,”
*Well little did you know*
“I knew it!” -Thor and everyone watching
Yah this movie gets so much better after seeing endgame or maybe this makes endgame better idk but still Hawkeye scarlet witch and the hammer tonys vision
Shush
@@potariki shush
And 7:36 is the opposite
“I believe [Cap] will lift the hammer eventually”
Ragnarok: hah, nah
Endgame: HAH, TRICKED YOU TWICE
They never expect the double bluff
Myaa! It's me!
“...you didn’t see that coming.”
Ragnarok? Cap was in ragnarok? Or. What
@@SpiralTheFirst the hammer died in ragnarok
That meeting between Vision and the last Ultron bot is how I imagine a meeting between you and Jeremy from Cinemasins would go.
Samuel Stiffler I can't find flaw in that logic
Jeremy: You're unbearably naive!
Well, I created my channel 3 years later.
Samuel Stiffler I can't help but laugh at this comment it's so great and accurate
That would be funny, but awkward.
So clever. "But there is grace in their failure, and i think you miss that."
Everyone’s here from Endgame talking about Lee predicting Mjolnir.
I’m here from WandaVision talking about how he predicted Paul Bettany’s amazing performance as Vision in the show!! Man, that Episode 5 kitchen scene sent chills up my spine.
Yes!! So good. The seeds of their relationship in this movie *chef’s kiss* perfecto
i'm also pretty sure they planned for vision with paul! i think it was a behind the scenes with paul but i'm not sure
As CinemaWins also said about that kitchen scene, it gives off some Too Many Cook's vibes and it was great. Bettany did really well as vision but that kitchen scene was a standout performance.
I'm here from 2022 having just finished Hawkeye's TV show. lol I'm so happy Marvel is loving it's characters equally
mid show lmao
Who is just going through all of these again after endgame
me
Me too 😊
I do
Uep
Flying Hay yeah I rewatched all the movies
Everyone creates the things they dread. Men of peace create engines of war. Invaders create avengers. Cinema Sins creates Cinema Wins
Lukecantsnoot DING!
From this very film duh
...and insightful observations create obtuse comments.
Men of peace create engines of war...? Yeah MLK and Ghandi and Jesus were known for their military machines.
Will wellllll, their motives were for peace, but like the inquisition, holy wars, etc., it creates conflict. The very thing they try to stop. And some people takes what they stand for and go to the extreme. And engines of war basically means the reason for it
"My theory is that Cap can lift Mjolnir, and will eventually."
Me: You're about 5 years too early
Double endgame reference, well played my friend. Well played. 👏
That's funny
Jade Walker *4
@@shade08538 close enough and it says about
I understood that reference
Actually Thor’s quote at the end is,as he taps Tony on the chest “With the exception of this one,there’s nothing that can’t be explained.” Which is in some ways even better because it means even a god like Thor can’t find an explanation for Tony being Tony and the fact that Tony doesn’t have an immediate response to that statement so he has to just shrug it off with
“That man has no regard for lawn maintenance” after Thor takes off shows that even a genius like Tony has no idea how to respond to the fact that Thor thinks that he is unexplainable.
i guess tony's mom said he was special
Well Thanos said something about being cursed with intelligence or smth to Tony
@@furkanceylan199 Cursed with Knowledge
"ok guys we need to talk"
shoots gun, bullets ricochet
"nice talk"
goon on floor "no it wasn't"
(nickolai bernar) I always laugh so hard at that 😂
ur so fucking funny
When was this?
666 likes? 😳
That was a huge opportunity for a win!
This guy predicting Cap lifting the hammer 4 years before he did. Damn.
I know right
You beat me to it
Andddd Tony's vision being mostly accurate to EndGame too ( he said Infinity War but close enough LOL)
And guessing hulk going to sakkaar a year before ragnorak
i had that prediction too.
"will anything be as good as the original avengers?"
me: ...yes. yes there will.
Exactly what I was thinking ;)
Gadolium Nitrogen same here lol
I thought this movie was already better than the original Avengers, but I know that you're talking about Infinity War and End Game, and in the words of Ultron:
...yeah.
they are different. Infinity War and Endgame are very different from Avengers. And each other. Perhaps this movie was just too similar to Avengers 1? Mostly I expected too much from it; I blame the commercial.
@@tyrant-den884 I don't know. I felt the first one was more focused on the novelty of the connected universe from the five movies before it and granting us many beautiful moments of the Avengers being introduced to each other and uniting under a common enemy. This one, while giving us one last big moment at the start, had mostly moved past that and was more focused on putting them in a genuine moral conflict. Forcing the heroes to confront their darkest secrets, repressed pasts, and worst fears, as well as imposing the question of whether or not they're what's best for the world. Ultron is a very different villain from Loki, and for a superhero franchise, that means the movie itself is different. Then we get to Infinity War and it manages to combine the best of the two: the novelty of the connected universe on an even larger scale while facing a villain that poses some hard questions. As for Endgame.... If you haven't seen it, I won't say anything, but if you have, I shouldn't have to.
4:09 oh how right you were.
Hehe
hehehe
I wish CinemaWins acknowledged the similarity with Stark and Ultron in this movie. In the first Iron man, tony says “I don’t have anyone else” when pepper is disgusted because of implementing the new arc reactor in his chest, same as when Ultron says “I don’t have anyone else” before showing Black Widow the new body he created. Just another example of Ultron saying something Stark did.
Samuel Pikowski and I love how he was absolutely furious that Klaw compared him to Tony.
Yeah, that was something that I think really sells Ultron as a Villain. In the comics, Ultron is Hank Pym's personality without his humanity, all the arrogance, cruelty and envy is just what Pym feels without any filters. (Similarly Vision is the de-emotioned version of Wonder Man and Jocasta is derived from Wasp's mind. Note that those two? Not villains.) Here, Ultron's grandstanding, snarky humor and general approach to problem solving (build a better set of armor/self) are all Tony's. In many ways I feel what the Mind Gem did was give his dream a form. So much of how he's written and acted is childlike...almost as without Jarvis'/Tony's years of existence and interaction with humanity he lashes out at what he can't understand. There is a very heavy element of Frankenstein in Tony rejecting his own creation/child, and being rejected in turn.
I agree. The moment when Ultron says to scarlet witch "I'm here to save the world.... But also, yeah." That is a definitive tony stark line.
I never even noticed that similarity before.
Nice touch.
"The city is flying and im fighting an army of robots with a bow and arrow... None of this makes sense" easily one of the best lines in the entire MCU
Yep
"You're unbearably naive."
"Well, I was born yesterday."
Wisest words ever said
underrated scene
“Steve, he said a bad language word” had me in tears!
Ultron: You're unbearably naive.
Vision: Well, I was born yesterday.
Making the opposite of a quote, a quote.
Ha! I love that line!😂
You mean an etouq?
This is why Marvel is so successful , they blend action, suspense and comedy do well... something that is almost impossible to do, because the comedy always comes off as forced and not fitting to the situation, but they have made every joke, gag and pun fit so perfectly that it would be hard to imagine this movies without them.
"No matter how jaded and cynical I become, I pray I can enjoy sequences like this until the day I die. Because if you never feel that little kid inside you jumping up and down in front of the screen, you're watching movies wrong!" - Cinema Wins
Absolutely beautiful statement! Thank you for that
Am I the only one who actually LOVES Hawkeye? He has some really funny moments, especialy in this movie and he is a deep and well developed charachter in general.
You spelled character wrong idiot
@@aryorha woah I made a tiny spelling mistake. No need to call me an idiot.
Glad Hawkeye is getting his own movie.
He *IS?????*
Katelyn Murray yea, Black Widow too
Does anyone else just love Ultron’s little “Huh?” when Thor looks over and goes “Are you ready?” Just me…?
can i have a timestamp?
@@norishimogawa6125
12:57
He doesn't actually say anything, it's more likely just the vibranium used for his armor.
*"Does their very existence invite challengers"* I swear to god this guy predicts the hammer lift and Vision's speech in Civil War too. Legend.
No. He was referencing that line. This video was made a few months after Civil War came out.
Does anyone else want CinemaSins and Wins to do a collaboration video and get to the conclusion of zero sins and Wins because of it constantly going up and down? that would be awesome.
To CinemaSins get zero or negative sins, he should try to sin Deadpool.
Deadpool is a sin himself
+Your Fan not at all
+Your Fan Are you deaf?
i legitimately feel like cinemasins has no idea what to do with deadpool. it's damn near unsinable because every "sin" in the movie is a self aware joke about the type if shit they normally sin.
No mention to Wanda’s (Scarlet Witch) reaction of seeing her twin brother die right in front of her? Her reaction had me crying even more than I already was. Elizabeth Olsen absolutely killed this scene and I can’t imagine anybody else playing her role.
She didn't see it... She FELT it... I think...
@@TL-jc6qk better actresses ≠ better actress to play role of scarlet witch
She captures grief amazingly
@@Back2HumanityWandaVision tore my heart out! She’s amazing, and she blended into the sitcom eras expertly. What a show, what an actor.
Hawkeye’s pep talk to Scarlett Witch might be the most “Marvel” moment in the entire MCU. It simultaneously pokes fun at the ridiculousness of the situation and provides some nice comic relief, but is simultaneously heartfelt, impactful, and incredibly well done.
I think the reason the MCU future setups in their movies don't bother me is because they aren't as in your face as the DC universe. heck with the haters, Age of Ultron was another great Marvel flick, showing that they know what they're doing with so many movies to connect together
Another reason they don't bother me is that the whole point of an interconnected universe is so you reference events that have happened elsewhere, making it all feel like one world. Of course Ultron would want to build a body out of vibranium. Having him pursue that isn't an advertisement, it's a logical step.
TheCoolperson1996 *hecc*
Agreed. Not to mention that it's kind of the core of the whole MCU. When Nick Fury showed up after the credits in IM1, people lost their goddamn minds. It was the first time anything like this had been attempted, and it worked!
Granted, some people have superhero fatigue. I did, myself, for a while there. Didn't see a single hero movie between IM3 and Thor Ragnarok besides the Guardians films. But Ragnarok and IW reminded me why I loved heroes so much...so I rewatched the whole MCU in the span of one week.
YAAAS
Yeah, I've barely read Marvel comics in my childhood apart from a few Spider-Man ones, so these kinds of things don't really bug me. Plus, hey, it's a movie universe that's constantly setting up future adventures. What's not to love about that?
"Who cares if they can't decide whether the shield absorbs or deflects."
My theory is that it absorbs. It's just that Thor's hammer is a little more than even the shield can handle, so any excess energy ripples out from the point of impact and gets "ejected" from the rim.
The shield stops anything and the hammer goes through anything, the shield stops the hammer by dispersing the unbelievable amount of energy through the shield and out the edges.
Well, if you remember Black Panther that does seem consistent with it.
You’re exactly right. Vibranium literally absorbs energy, that is the base premise of the metal
Every comment: *HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE HAMMER!*
The comment section is practically useless because of it.
@@todaysdesperadohatesavocad7109 imagine thinking not every comment section is useless
He was
Psssh and Sakar
No. Delete your account
When I first saw the movie in cinemas, the audience’s reaction to Vision handing Thor his hammer was pRICELESS, I’ll never forget it
You should have also given extra points at 1:39 for Tony's lil "yay" because it was adorable
Also at 7:39 my immediate response was "with Bucky?" And that me realize I am LITERAL trash
Margo Hughes yeah
you mean 7:35..... 7:39 is Hawkeye thinking he's not needed
Margo Hughes you made me cry with that
I LOVE that!
2:20 "the second Tony grabs the scepter Ultron is inevitable"
he ain't the only one who's inevitable :^)
CinemaWins knows the future confirmed
But I am Ironman
game talk 👌🏻💥
He also predicted why Cap didnt lift thor’s hammer
“Nothing will ever be as cool as the first time we saw them assemble”
the final battle of endgame
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
Ah, give him a break. None of us could see that coming. Not Quicksilver, not Hawkeye, not any theorizer, no one. It was the one option that was just blocked off from our brains because... it was too much. There was no way our minds would have been able to comprehend that scene without the rest of Endgame leading up to it, plus the visual aid of it actually happening, plus ultra Alan Silvestri's piece of resistance, "Portals". What a scene.
Or Thor's entrance.
On your left.
It was cringe
You know, it's funny that people were so pressed that this was a setup movie in the timeline, but it really was a required part of the MCU, every bridge needs it's keystone, and the events in this movie were a huge turning point in the canon. Without it, you have no reason for the Accords, which means we would have no Civil War (also no trolley dilemma style debate between the avengers to cause a part of the rift that causes Team Cap to go rogue), and without Civil War we don't have Spider-Man's intro to the MCU. Hulk wouldn't have ended up on Sakaar, and we wouldn't have a huge chunk of Ragnarok. There would have been little foreshadowing to Wakanda/Black Panther, not to mention the Infinity Stones in the vision
Indeed this really was a set up movie but it definitely wasn't the best. There are just too many plot points and action scenes going on in the movie to really understand what was happening. Even if it did set up Civil war and the future phase 3 movies , it could've done so in a way that was more original and intriguing
@@matthewquach2705 well I've watched it 5 times and I don't see it having those issues it's so incredibly fun your just being greedy and asking for more in a good movie
4:08 You must feel so pleased at yourself right now. 😆
clericneokun he's going to bring it up in the endgame video(s)
If u didn’t notice the nudge your blind or stupid lol
"Please be going to Sakaar", CinemaWins predicting plot of future movies!
*ding!
Well if u read Marvel comic books its pretty predictable...
@@plm6523 If you do not read the comic books, it's impossible to predict. 😁
@@filiphastik4493 Ofc it is, but i was talking about the guy making these videos which has Read the comic books.
Preben Mikalsen just let him have it, people gotta ruin everything
Cinema wins you predicted well. (People who have seen Endgame will understand) ;)
Cap and thors hammer
Yep
Sooooooo.... Everyone
SPQSpartacus I think the Thor and black widow movie predictions where more impressive, I mean who didn’t notice the lil nudge when capped lifted the hammer
Ben Aslo those of us who have seen Ragnarok: Hulk goes to Sakaar
Ultron took a look at the internet for 5 minutes and decided humanity wasn’t worth saving
Very accurate!
Or more that they should be punished for it.
Says a lot about humanity, doesn't it?
There are good people... But the egocentric, materialistic people and polititians, makes you want to side for at least a minute with Ultron~
@@NagataYuki5 Ultron was right.
Probably went through my Reddit.
I don't care what anybody says. I absolutely adore this movie.
Its a matter of taste.
The movie is good, but ultron is not. He was so ducking weak it ruined the movie. And they fucking made him a standup comedian. If they did ultron right the movie would of been nearly flawless
Whoever hated this movie was an idiot.
Same here. I utterly loved every second of this movie and I am sooo not into the MCU....or any comic franchise for that matter. Well, except 2000AD but how much of that have we had? ;)
I love it too. It is, visually, my favourtie MCU film. It looks SOOOOOO good
I'm sure I'm not the only one who loved AOU more than the first Avengers. Because I really do. The first one showed how a team was built. This shows how a team works! Loved this movie loads! Credit to CinemaSins, Marvel and definitely, Joss Whedon!
melvinneo you are not the only one i like it better too
Will the third one be how the team ends?
*CinemaWins (2 different channels by 2 different people)
I loved this movie. I was expecting it to be one of those "eh" kind of films. But when I finally did watch it, I was blown away by the complexity of all the characters, (including ultron) and how the two characters in avengers that people weren't huge fans of improved greatly. (Hawkeye and Captain america)
2 improved on everything in 1 imo though I would have prefferred a longer Thor vs Hulk fight or Hulk vs Team fight over a long Hulk vs Hulk Buster fight
I am behind a Black Widow and Banner romcom 100%. (no reason for the mcu to only be action movies) It could be called "I love you when you're angry"
Yes!
tony stark was a huge dumb ass for creating ultron, WHAT WAS HE THINKING?
+CinemaWins 12:56 is that really u are was it a joke
Let's talk about the fact that widow and banner aren't cannon? Winterwidow is the ship in the comics and should have been that way in the movies instead they set Natasha up with almost everyone
... You do realize that the movies are on a different timeline than the comics? It's Earth-199999 in Marvel multiverse while Earth-616 is the main Comics timeline. Different canon.
"Romanoff, you and banner better not be playing hide the zucchini" how was this not mentioned, its the best line ever
I think I like this channel more than CinemaSins
but i do like to fucking curse...
Cap:Language.
woah! this channel is great, but there is NO way it's better then cinemasins. no way.
Agreed. We need more positivity in the world.
It's like he says in the channel description: Liking things is more fun.
"How I Met Your Coulson"
...
I'd watch that.
Sounds dangerously close to "How I Met Your Cousin"
Coulson: "Hi, I'm Phil."
Hill: "Hey, I'm Maria."
*END OF SERIES*
When did this movie become a "failure", anyway? It made a ton of money and the critics lauded it. I absolutely love it. Some of it is so beautiful it makes me cry.
IRK!!!
+Joseph Miranda like, I don't understand why people hate on this so much
nobody hates movie good critic and audience scores it's just fanboys
Because of the way Ultron was portrayed. in the comics he's the type of threat that you needed to time travel in order to defeat. in the movie he felt like only a country level threat.
Well Disney considered it a failure since it didn't make as much money as the first avengers
I love how Cap's comment on losing together gets a pay-off in endgame. And it's not the pay-off you'd expect. It's a bleak and heartbreaking one, but a pay-off all the same
Absolutely. Pretty much everything is a payoff in that movie. It’s a love letter to MCU fans and it’s absolutely beautiful. I seriously don’t know how they could have ended the franchise better. Even the dumb shit was paid off. Endgame may not be the best movie, it’s not even a movie, but it was a theater experience like no other and I wouldn’t have done it any different.
After Endgame, coming back to these movies, they all look so young. Especially Tony
*I love you 3000*
I'm still recovering
NnnnnnNNNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!
NO, STOP! NO FEELS. GOD, PLEASE NO.
NOOOOOOOOO!
I love how he thought nothing could be as good as seeing the first time the avengers assemble
Hey, your prediction about the hammer was 100% spot on (4:08)
I wish you would have talked about Scarlet Witch's scene after quicksilver had been killed. It was such a heart wrenching moment that deserves some recognition
Nobody:
Tony: *Cutest "Yay" ever*
"this is the biggest standalone hawkeye movie we'll ever get"
Marvel Studios and ComicCon: hold my beer
Jonasz Przybycień I mean technically it’s a tv show, but yeah
@@foxlover6770 still
He's right though because even the TV show really doesn't qualify for a movie
with so much negativity on youtube, this channel is a breath of fresh air.
SuperGuerrero79 true
Isn't it?
SuperGuerrero79 I think you mean the world.
I will always have too questions. 1: How the actual hell did humans live this long? And 2: when will we have another world war?
Anyways, this channel is great. Maybe even a new drug of mine...
(Goodbye.)
Eh, depends on where you look. I do agree this is a pretty positive channel, but I find myself laughing more with Cinemasins and getting into a almost depressed mindset towards the end of some of the videos lol
"If you're that one person who's seen Avengers Age of Ultron before Iron Man 3..."
Me:**slowly raises hand**
Since I’m not as old as the series and have not seen (all) some of the iron man movies enitrely I am with you
Yup. Me.
I was!!!
**blushes and coughs into arm** yeah, me too.
6:28 I have to laugh because this moment in the film is hilarious but telling characterization: there really was no need for Pietro to grab the hammer, he just saw something coming at him and went for it because "Ooh! Shiny!"
Edit: I also have to laugh at Wanda & Pietro's reactions at 5:54 bc I feel like most 18 year olds would react that way. Pietro can't really believe that just happened & Wanda is . . . vaguely grossed out. Granted, they've probably seen worse having been experiments for Hydra, but they're general reaction of "Oh, shit." is very characteristic of millenials/Gen Z as a whole.
Seems to be a habit of his, he didn't need to gather Hawkeyes arrows in the first battle, nor grab Mjolnir, but he did it for the style points. I mean really, if you were a speedster, wouldn't you be constantly going for style points?
@@tomsimpkins1211 style on them slow fools
@@Tainted_Human Lmao
That hammer thing "You, are not worthy" could have been in EWW too.
I still don't understand why that Thor scene bothered anyone. Had they not put it in, then Thor's decision to wake Vision up would have made no sense. Not to mention that these actions all tie in to Ragnarok, and a day later, Thanos. Also, James Spader did a perfect job capturing the essence of everything that influenced Ultron into what he is in the movie. He's one of the better Marvel villains imo.
Andrew Cannon Ragnarok was set a year before infinity war. Only the post credit scene was in 2018.
@@shanez1215 Where do you get that idea from? Why would Thor and the Asgardians be flying around in that ship for a year before Thanos tracked them down? You don't think they would have found a new home already?
People like to complain about anything and everything.
@@ANGRYpooCHUCKER Thor Ragnarok takes place in late 2017 while Infinity War takes place in early 2018 so not the long in between
@@nightowl9818 We dont know how long it took Thor to arrive at Sakaar. Loki, who got kicked out of the Bifrost by Hela only seconds prior to Thor arrived there weeks befor. After Thor arrives on Sakaar, the rest of the movie except the end credit scene cant have taken more than a few days, 1 week max.
Lets assume the american movie release date, November 3rd as the date given. Adding a couple of weeks, lets take 6 weeks as Loki didnt say "months", and add the 1 week the movie takes place in on Sakaar, we get a date between christmas and new year for the final battle on Asgard.
If we now take IW's american release date as the beginning of the movie, April 27th, the Asguardians must have spent monts on that ship. And with the introduction of the "jump points" in GotG2 and Cpt. Marvel as widely known "highways" in the universe, it seems unlikely they didnt find one of them. 2 points to make there: 1. The ship was damaged after the battle on Asgard, so maybe the engine that enables jumping was damaged beyond repair. 2. The ship doesnt seem to be made for fast traveling and may not be able to jump, or battle as it doesnt have weapons, as stated in the begining of IW.
What about the fact that Hawkeye named his baby after Black Widow and Quicksilver, that's a pretty cute win to me
So he changed from Nathaniel to Pietro?
Why quicksilver
@@ToxicSkull0 Hawkeye's youngest son is named Nathaniel Pietro Barton
"That little kid inside you."
Straight up cried.
You really do have some beautiful moments.
I wanna win that creepy af version of “I got no strings” they played for this trailer. Super intense. I love a good creepy music that turns something innocent/nostalgic on its head.
Ultron’s dialogue is very underrated though I have to admit that if it had been anyone else other than James Spader delivering the lines the character would not have been nearly as great. When watching “What If..?” and hearing Ultron with a voice other than James Spader, something noticeable was immediately lost. The more that I think about it, the more Ultron actually seems more intimidating and threatening to me than even Thanos does. I still think Thanos was a better character overall, but Ultron’s “darkness” was very uncharacteristic of the template that the MCU used for their villains both before and after Age of Ultron. The closest would be Jeff Goldblum’s character but even then the two performances are nowhere close. Ultron’s playfulness is incredibly unsettling in not so obvious ways, and sometimes in obvious ways. Even when he is losing.
17:00
The scene where Hawkeye says along the lines of "I could do it and nobody would know. Yeah the last time I saw the bastard Ultron was standing on top of him." When Quicksilver leaves him behind and he just points his bow after him. That was probably my favorite moment of the film. It was so funny and it really pushed along their little relationship that had formed all movie with them saying snippy lines at each other. He still clashes with him but he's starting to care a little. And then it pays off so much with Quicksilver sacrificing himself for Hawkeye.
And I think the best thing about this little speech is that it was improvised by Renner. God I love this guy !
@@akarial2713 Was it really? That's awesome!
@@fcchelsea136 yep. I don't remember where I saw it but I'm 99.99% it's true
seriously they need to bring that guy more in the spotline, he's an amazing and underrated actor.
And how ultron was on top of him (or above him at least) was great too. Or how in caps speech “you die walk it off” the camera goes to quicksilver. Also quicksilvers power comes from his legs
You want your mind to be blown? It was all adlibbed by Hawkeye. 🤯
Edit: Damn it I’m late.
Ultron made the entire movie's tone for me with four words.
*"Oh for god's sake"*
That's uh yeah that's five.
Some words like it's or he's count as two separate words because they mean it is and he is this is also true for names so yeah it's 5.
Um, no it's not. 'God's' is the possessive...not a contraction of two words.
@@clarkbarrett6274 Good on you for correcting the guy who thought he was correcting someone else (even though I personally feel that contractions should count as one word so I disagreed with him from the beginning)
Ashwin Halepet People who make grammar/spelling corrections on internet comment boards are a pain in the ass...worse still when they are wrong. 😑
I Think the only reason Cap couln´t lift the hammer is because he didn´t tell Tony that Bucky killed his parents
..That.. makes sense actually.
Damn
Oh yeah, ur smart
Wait. I haven't watched Civil War all year. Remind me: Did Cap know before the events of that film (Cap 3) that Bucky had murdered Tony's 'rents?
@@FadzaiSimango yup since winter soldier
12:32 also a little reference to The Avengers, Loki’s “I’m listening” after Thor got
iron-tackled
He predicted Sakar and Ragnarok 😮😮 mind blown
FEBIN M and Captain wielding Mjolnir for Endgame...
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Ultron is most likely my favorite Marvel supervillain so far. He is a malicious person bent on destroying the world, however, he has these amazingly beautiful human moments with Scarlet Witch, etc.. When you see these moments it's like he's hesitating or having guilt/regret over what he's doing... He comes across as a confused child sometimes for his unpredictable nature and warping sense of reality, justice, peace, etc... When rewatching it I personally almost feel bad for Ultron sometimes... maybe it's because of the voice actor or his nature in general... But he is a believable villain who has a goal and has reasons for accomplishing that goal. As I mentioned before there are some very 'human' moments with Ultron. When he's talking to Blackwidow about being alone or pleading with Scarlet witch to not betray him... I'll even go so far as to say he may have even liked Scarlet witch. Think about it, he was uploading his AI into the Vision when it was taken back by the Avengers... So some of his programming/feelings/memories are within the Vision... And we know the Vision is falling in love with Scarlet, so it's not that unbelievable.
Ultron delivers some pretty funny lines and casual philosophical arguments to back up his 'mission'. And Ultrons mission is actually a very believable one... He wants to save the world from itself, I feel like over the course of the movie his interpretation of what that means changes. In the beginning, he just wants to destroy the Avengers thus making it so the world will not have super heroes. After scarlet witch betrays him he turns to his backup goal, causing a great extinction so life can begin anew... His end goal was to shape the world in his image... Which is something Tony all be it somewhere deep inside him shares that belief...
The mirrors between Tony and Ultron are sometimes subtle yet totally believable. Tony can't tell the difference between saving the world and destroying it, he's paranoid about the vision he saw and after what happened in new york it's believable he would be. Tony's entire story is him dealing with tremendous guilt, the realization of what his weapons are really being used for, the fear of the unknown and the feeling of being so small in the massive MCU universe. He isn't like Thor or Cap. Cap was trained to handle the stress that comes after battles and Thor have actual powers. Tony is just a human with a suit on with no military training. Of course, he would have PTSD or other stress/medical effects after being in a fire fight as big as the first Avengers was. While this side of Tony is more prevalent in Civil War its startings are still shown here.
And Ultron mirrors Tony's mental state perfectly while still being unique as a character... He isn't one dimensional like some of the Marvels villains are, He has these heart stabbing human moments mixed in with Tonys emotional and mental state and unpredictability as well as his own agenda and interpretation of his 'mission'.
Yeah, so that's why Ultron is my all time favorite Marvel villain so far.I don't say favorite of all time Because the Dark knights Joker is up there, but I say he's my favorite Marvel villain of all time. (Least until i see Thanos in action that is)
I totally agree.
RedSoulHeart Ultron is also my favorite Villain and I believe he will come back.
Ultron is my second fav right behind Loki hut Loki is a anti-hero so
So is Thanos your favorite now? I know he’s mine
Jessie Reacts ... Loki killed 80 people in two days. I really don't see him as an anti-hero, which is why his role in Ragnarok rubbed me the wrong way. I hope we see Loki's dark side some more in the future (cuz we agree, he's not really dead ...right?)
6:22 Proof Ultron is the best MCU villain. Any villain smart enough to fake-monologue for a surprise attack will always be a great villain.
Not the best but he is good
Yup and those villains are especially cunning
Sokovia is going for a ride... This line has always given me chills. For once, Tony’s helper talks as human as possible, and in a somber tone.
Watching this after Infinity War. “Is there anything cooler than seeing the Avengers assemble for the first time?” Hell yes.
Watching them all die at the same time
@@vasilischeese1889 Half of them.
Language!!!
Nah. A1 and A2:AoU were both better than Infinity War, as is Endgame.
K&W A2 is definitely not better, A1 is debatable, but I will give you endgame
another point that often come up in hater speak is "quips" everyone bitched and botched about "quips" to the point that i frankly got sick of hearing the word. and this is especially true of ultron. but while he was sarcastic, I felt most everything he was chilling to the bone. cold and downright scary. he makes observation that often achingly accurate and often makes you wonder if he has a point. then other times he says things out of a cold, unfeeling ignorance. sure he had a few good one liners, but overall stuff that he was nothing to laugh at.
and about the avengers as a whole. honestly, joking makes things more natural. people joke in dire situations, its a coping mechanism that helps keep people from going insane. think of military soldiers, they have a level of dark humor that most would find offputting. it often gets a pass in war films because they ARE films, but its very real. in the end it humanizes these characters and grounds them. the unrealistic thing is the ton of ultra serious films in which everyone is an unfeeling robot with no sense of humor at all.
Why do people criticize the quips? Makes no sense at all
Captain Jakemerica
I'd imagine for two reasons. First, I've seen a criticism that they're a lazy substitute for personality and 'better' forms of comedy. Second is the idea that they detract from the seriousness of a situation and/or muddle the tone of a movie. I don't necessarily agree, but those are the possible reasons I can think of.
Quips are fine, but like any tool used in a film, they can be overused. And I definitely think they are overused. More than that, though, they almost always result in bathos, where all the suspense of the scene is released. But not in a cathartic, satisfying way, more anticlimactic and unsatisifying. Whenever they crack a joke whilst fighting for their life, it’s a hint to the audience that there’s no real danger or stakes, so I personally can never get invested. It’s like how in Civil War, all the great action was moot once Black Widow said “We’re still friends, right?” because I knew that they were pulling their punches. All of cinema’s best action comes from a feeling that the hero is in danger and could die, and the constant quipping in a Marvel film nullifies that. Now, that’s not to say it’s never appropriate. If you want to show how confident and skilled your hero is, say in the film’s first action scene, quipping is great! But in the climax, where we’re supposed to fear the villain and be afraid for our hero’s safety, non-stop quipping can be really detrimental.
And yet in the final battle we had quipping AND someone died, showing us how real this is. These are superheroes. They're fighters, they're people, they have humour, and they can still die despite that.
Pendragon Yeah, it's gotten really tiresome listening to the "overly comedic" complaints over and over again. And to make matters worse, it's no longer just Marvel getting that criticism on a constant basis, now even Star Wars is getting that kind of hate. At some point, you have to question why movies even have comedy at all if people are just going to complain about it all the damn time.
I hate how everyone gives Pietro shit for not being fast enough to dodge the bullets in the end. If you look closely, the car he moved into position took a large number of the bullets. Plus, they were from a Quinjet-mounted machine gun. There is no reason he should be getting the amount of hate he is.
"could anything be as cool as the first time we saw the avengers assemble?"
Man does IW/EG really blow that all out of the water
Have you noticed the couple of running jokes in the MCU? The first being "Language" that started with Cap, went to Fury, Then to Hill, and then to Star Lord in GotG2. Also starting in Thor him getting plastered to a pane of glass or window moving on to Thor 2, and Thor 3, and then Avengers: Infinity War. Can you hind any more and then do a everything great about continuity humor in the MCU, please?!
coming back after watching endgame, I am happy to reference 7:35 and say that cap does indeed get the life and family with the person he wants it with
This channel is (in my opinion) more fun than cinemasins. Oops
It's SO much more fun. I'm very very close to un-subbing from Cinema Sins. Imo they used to be funny and bring up good points, but now they're just really annoying. I love a good critique, but they're overly negative and assholeish.
+Griffin Raynor I quote " we are not reviewers, we are assholes" DING!
Bradley Kingswell yeah, that's very true. there is a difference between fun assholes and annoying assholes, though.
I rarely ever disagree with the point made on this channel, but I rarely ever *agree* with the points made on CinemaSins.
Cinema sins is so boring!! This channel is brilliant they don't criticise the Natasha and Bruce relationship which was started in the first movie
Rewatching this for the umpteenth time and it is so glorious to get to 7:25 and realise that it may have taken 5yrs amid a global pandemic, but we finally have Hawkeye-centric MCU content... and it is awesome.
Hawkeye is amazing. Not only do we get to see some old characters but we meet some new ones too. Including a possible new villain.
Am I the only one who thinks AOU is much better movie upon repeated viewing?? I watched it like 6 to 7 times and I think it gets better on each viewing. This movie will age gracefully.
I re-watched it yesterday, and a good amount of my nerd rage had subsided. I honestly think it will age better than the first Avengers.
I agree the Archie Comics reference is one I really like now
I love this movie.
I completely agree. I was underwhelmed the first time I watched it, but when I rewatched it I loved it. Every time I watch it I like it a little more.
Seriously Age of Ultron was awesome. Haters always gonna be butthurt.
kwloy most definitely
kwloy I don't think you get how haters work.
kwloy Damn Right.
Jeremy is such a great actor. And hawkeye is bad ass. I understand he's basically useless but he's still a badass archer. I really hope Clint "dies" and becomes Ronin
I also would like if Jermey showed up in a black widow movie, maybe a supporting character. Heck maybe Ant Man & The Wasp. Make him "die" in that movie and come back as Ronin in infinity war.
frosty1130 YEAAAH! HAWKEYE! Or ,make him become Goliath or even Cap ( both of which he was in the comics)
That would be cool! Seeing Ronin in the MCU would be a really good nod to the comics.
I loved him in this film SO much more than in the first. Especially that part where scarlet witch is about to mind voodoo him and he just hits her in the head with an arrow.
frosty1130 he has a Mohawk in Avengers 4,I think we're getting Ronin, or a closer version of it.
I think Nat's line "I'm always picking up after you boys" should've been recognized because it's such a good line! one of my favorite one-liners in, well anything lol
Anna r
Nah I think it was when nat is waiting for black panther and tchallas guard goes up to nat and says move or you will be moved
also her one liners about the baby "traitor" and "fat"
15:17 "could anything ever be ass good or as cool as the first time the avengers assemble? Probably not"
Oh boi just wait till u watch endgamr
CinemaWins: "Could anything ever be ass good or as cool as the first time the avengers assemble? Probably not."
Russo Brothers: "Hold my clapperboard."
Yo fr, I was jumping up and down in my seat when everyone lined up.
@@buttonmash7073 Russo: Hold my beer!!
Thor: *drinks it* *burps*
Endgame? Infinity was a better movie than Endgame. Endgame was underwhelming.
@@TashreefShareef true i had high expectations for end game but then time travel happened
I never really thought about it that way in regard to how well this sets up the next few movies. Thank you for pointing that out.
Favorite MCU film aside from Endgame. James Spader as Ultron is perfection, the banter, the action, the story, everything just works for me.
2:24 Chris has always been a comedic genius, we just never gave him the proper attention...
Thank you Taika for seeing what we couldn't see
It's a shame we had to wait til Thor's third solo movie for someone to unlock Chris' comedic potential because, like you said, he always had it, he just needed the right director. At the same time Thor the dark world has loki on board for some comic relief and the film suits a more serious tone from Thor. So maybe Thor's story happened at the right pace in which case, I don't know what I'm complaining about
Personally, I thought Age of Ultron was the superior film. The Avengers was kind of a dumb popcorn flick that sought solely to entertain. Age of Ultron was also kind of a popcorn flick, but it also raised a lot of questions about the integrity of our heroes, who the real threat is to the world, philosophy on existence, and all sorts of other good stuff to satisfy semi-pretentious film snobs (like myself) the world over.
And in combination with the more varied set pieces, a great take on the beloved sci-fi AI theme AND managing to balance all these characters and keep the drama relevant with the action. I personally thought this was not just the superior movie, but the vastly superior movie, hold together by a way greater sense for what makes movies feel dramatic (Don't know why I am posting this like it is relevant to anyone, I guess your line about 'semi-pretentious movie snobs' holds water).
I second all that this!
The contrast between Ultron and Jarvis / Vision is also a highlight in my opinion. Both of these 'AI's' believe what they do is the right thing to do. Ultron is correct to believe that the biggest threat to humans is humans. But he only sees the evil and corruption, and not the purity and love that Vision sees.
Although he does feel love and empathy. Poetic that the two characters that made Ultron feel human ended up betraying him.
Ikrani personally I felt the question about the reason for the hero's existence. to live in a world where I could one day see enhanced out of no where, I would be scared. what if the world had disagreements? this film brings up many questions.
Ikrani totally agreed
Elizabeth Olsen is a goddess, and nobody can convince me otherwise.
she's got great tits too
Fair do's.
I mean Scarlet Witch literally has the powers of a god.....
but yeah, she beautiful
200 th Sub
SupernerdScrawl she is
Should have been a win for Capt tearing the wood block apart with his bare hands.
Also based on the end banter on worthiness, I think Captain America was actually trying to lift the hammer but couldn't. He shifted it showing that he can be worthy, but people believe because it was in competition that that's why he couldn't lift it. However if it was for saving people/his friends, he would have been able to.
The best part about rewatching this movie now is seeing Wanda and Vision in the beginning. It’s crazy to see how far these two characters (and their actors) have come. They’re truly the emotional heart of the MCU.
Your optimism is just awesome. Pick a Harry Potter movie any Harry Potter movie.
how 'bout all of them
please dont do this CinemaWins, if you do that is alot of your videos I wont be watching
+Ian Lister well if he does Harry Potter I doubt he'd do them all at once
Yea man I am on board
Oh hell yeah! As a Potter fan I would love it!
I really hope you don't become cynical and jaded, because then, your channel would just turn into a better copy of CinemaSins. And I don't know about other people, but I'm here for the positivity and actual research and thoughtful reasoning behind your videos. CinemaSins was somewhat good at the start, but now, they're just bashing for bashing sake's and it's not funny anymore. Your positivity is always appreciated :)
melodysymphonystar "When one fights monsters one must be careful not be become one."
Who said that? Sounds like Yoda or Jackie Chan...?
Friedrich Nietzsche, a German philosopher.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you."
Speaking of which, I want to see him win a movie he doesn't like.
Well he didn't like Fantastic 4 very much.
Listen, Age of Ultron was my favourite film because it had the perfect balance of the Avengers being friends while maintaining conflict. I may be stuck in the 2015 era of "Everyone hangs out at the Avengers Tower and they trust each other and are actual friends" but c'mon, you can't say the splitting of the team in the movies to follow didn't make you sad as fuck.
1:27 Actually if you remember from the first Avengers, Cap's shield didn't absorb Mjolnir's blow, it in fact dispersed it in all directions destroying the closeby forrest. It is safe to assume since then Cap and Thor learned to direct that shockwave in any way they like.
7:50 Hawkeye is my favorite of the Avengers. Period. I love Cap. I love Iron Man, but Hawkeye? He's best boi. 12:13 is why. I love that speech.
Hawkeye counter firing through the just-shot wall hole? That's a win in my book.
Hell yeah it is.
Tony Stark (Iron Man 3): “We create our own demons.”
Ultron (Avengers: Age of Ultron): “We all create the thing we dread...”
I feel like with this reference that Ultron is really just the evil side of Tony’s PTSD, find it interesting that the two say something very similar like this. There may not be any relation between the two, but nonetheless it’s still an interesting think to see when rewatching these movies and seeing what Tony has gone through over the years being Iron Man and wanting to hang up the suit to protect the world by other means.
Right - ultimately, he’s like Clint and Natasha, even less physically skillful in terms of fighting sans suit. He is very vulnerable.
Spoilers for endgame
You called Mjolnir moment and about steves happy ending
I have a rebuddle to 4:10 about how Steve could have raised the hammer and chose not to. This was before Civil War so one can easily say that it could have been true at the time. Steve has always had the moral high ground in any given situation but this is after the Winter Soldier so it means this is after Steve learned the truth about Bucky killing Tony's parents. Steve was there having a party with Tony laughing and joking and fighting by his side and lying to him about knowing the truth all this time. The one bit of moral ambiguity caused Steve to be pure enough to get a reaction but just dirty enough not to be worthy.
TheCrimsonMelody I like the way u think
I've got a rebuttal to that. Based on what we've seen in the Thor movies I don't think the hammer judges worthiness based on any sort of moral "purity" (or that worth can be quantified in any sort of way as a sin-list, but that's a meta-joke-discussion-thing for another time), seeing how Thor had been through his fair share of dark bits, waywardness, and dirtiness before being worthy of the hammer again. I'm not sure if you've seen Ragnarok yet, but for the sake of argument, they've made it a point throughout the series that Thor's hammer should not be treated as a magical macguffin like the biblical Samson's hair.
Instead, the hammer judges worthiness based on another scale. While much can be said for Thor's integrity and character above, say, Tony's, what positive character traits does Thor have that Cap doesn't? What could the hammer possibly be looking at that says Steve Rogers isn't as worthy to lead Asgard as Thor? (Ragnarok could actually answer that question, but this query is within the context of 2014- I'm not sure the story brains behind the MCU knew that during the drafting of the Avengers:AOU script) Cap is the "perfect" everyman leader in this film, lol.
Also this next bit is a legitimate question, not rhetoric: Does Cap learn of Bucky killing Tony's parents directly after or during CA:TWS? I remember in Civil War he still had to ask Bucky why he saved him from the river and that was at the end of TWS, implying they hadn't spoke since...had Bucky told Cap about the Starks offscreen or something?
I just also think it makes it a cool character point for Cap to realize in the moment that he CAN lift the hammer, he just chooses not to to keep Thor's confidence and the team's confidence in Thor high. It's definitely something a wise leader would do.
Cap might have the moral high ground sometimes, then sometimes not. He had a few decisions I don't agree with here and there, and also he often can't see the forest behind the tree... It's nice and all that in the comics he could lift(or budge? i really can't call it back...) the hammer, but those rules don't apply here... And now, that I have 7 months advantage let us look at Civil War. Vision did say that signing the Accords was sensible, and hell, he was right. What if anyone with an ounce of superpower/high-tech equipment could just go out there and 'crime-fight'? That would be disastrous, I think we can agree to that... Steve portrays misses that, and tbh he has a point. Still, this ambiguity and his disregard for any kind of future development and obliviousness makes him not worthy in my eyes(before anyone attacks _me_ personally, I just wanna say, I'm not a marvel character, so no, I couldn't do better)
Cap learned that Hydra arranged an "accident" for Tony's parents, he didn't know it was Bucky.
"Do you see it? The Inevitability?
You, Avengers.... are my meteor. My swift and terrible sword.
You Rise.... Only to Fall.
And when the dust settles,
The only thing left living in this World....
WILL BE METAL."
Aaaahhhh so good. Seriously chilling.
I’m not sure how to articulate how I felt about lines such as these. They’re not bad, and the delivery was spectacular. You get more honest representations of his genuine thoughts and feelings when he is talking with someone who he genuinely feels is a relatable peer though like Wanda or Vision at the very end of the movie. I understand that its a representation of his wrath in a way which is meant to instill fear with immense totality, but whenever dialogue such as this occurs I can’t help but wonder if the scenes would have been better served by dialogue which carried the same weight and resulted in the same responses but had more of Ultron’s personal depth that can be seen elsewhere in the movie.
He is capable of and has demonstrated that he has had deeper philosophical ruminations over things akin to what Vision does. I get that Ultron is a machine, but so is Vision. Ultron’s plans and actions that he pushes forward with are done for emotional reasons; he is a machine that could not cope very well at all with developing (or rather being given) a sense of humanity and what it means to have a soul confined in that type of existence. So now he’s pressing a reset button for the existence around him with the extinction event objective.
I think it would have been more powerful to hear dialogue come from that place rather than the dismissive ruthlessness being employed to assert dominance. I realize that it’s meant to be Ultron’s “opposite but equal” response to Tony’s endeavors to control things (suit of armor around the world) to avoid the doomsday scenario from his nightmares, but considering how little screen time Ultron had left, it would have been more effective to offer a glimpse at what was going on with him in a way that would be just as effective but relatable in a more tragic way, or something akin to that in a way that wouldn’t be melodramatic, cheesy, sappy, or whiny. Similar to Thanos’ dialogue in the beginning of Infinity War. “I know what it’s like to lose…”
The biblical associations felt out of place too. Throughout the entire film, there was nothing about the character to suggest that he likened himself to either being a god or acting on behalf of the God of Christianity. So those lines of dialogue were very peculiar. Especially when considering that the themes of the film are inconsistent with redemption and salvation. Ultron’s not offering opportunities for anyone to redeem themselves and he isn’t trying to save humanity. So that instances of him incorporating religious themes in very sporadic and inconsistent ways breaks the immersion for me. It’s as if someone said to themselves “Tony is egotistical, so let’s give Ultron an inconsistent god complex” when that was never a component of Tony’s personality to begin with. It felt like an overused villain trope was being shoehorned into the character and not even used consistently enough or given supporting reasons to actually explain why in a reasonably acceptable way.
He didn’t believe himself to come into existence as a result of divine intervention, or to have heard the voice of God, or anything else like that. They just decided to tack it on here and there because “Tony can be incredibly narcissistic while thinking very highly of himself”. It didn’t ruin the character and fortunately that type of dialogue doesn’t occur very often in the movie at all. It just resulted in wasted opportunities in the script for better character development. Not everything had to be “like Tony” for the sake of it. That would be like saying “Tony has to be exactly like Howard.”
Just realized when Thor was talking about the drink that “no mortal” could handle and gave Stan Lee and Cap some... the reason cap wasn’t affected was explained in his first movie. It was said the serum made his cells regenerate at such a rate he couldn’t even get drunk (I believe this was after the Erksine died and he went to the bar, tho I’m not sure)
I think it was after Bucky fell off the train
This is why I hated that they made him grow old. It made no sense.
@@Allmenroder0854 yeah it was. He had been crying and Peggy went to comfort him at the bar, so then he told her he can't get drunk.
Vision: "that's true. he hates *you* the most"
*RDJ looks straight at the camera The Office style.* XD