Quick demo of the Bach 3S and 3MV commercial trumpet mouthpieces. Available for purchase here: erniewilliamson.com/bach-3s-t... springfield-music.com/catalog...
Recently got the 5MV, great all around mouthpiece, definitely requires a solid embouchure, placing this mouthpiece on a flabby embouchure would probably be disastrous.
@@aklnoyz Huge, the v shape of the 5MV helps rush air through the horn quicker, so if your playing correctly, the air stream is funneling in to the lead pipe very quickly compared to a C cup, so you should notice that it’s very very easy to change dynamic levels. The extra weight of the 5MV provides massive amounts of projection and volume. The high notes feel much more secure because the v cup is so shallow. Only downside is the fact that you really need to avoid overblowing, especially if your coming from a big mouthpiece such as 3c or 1C. I came from a 1C and use the 5MV for lead work as well as Jazz depending on the venue acoustics and microphone quality. Don’t know if I’d use it as an everyday mouthpiece, some people do, this mouthpiece requires a great deal of precision, and some people may not have the patience to adjust to this aspect. Most importantly, I don’t believe that any mouthpiece increases range, but ones like this definitely allow you to utilize your range for a much longer period of time, when played correctly. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the review I brought the 3s and played it at my church today this is a awesome mouthpiece it is very bright and projection is awesome very comfortable playing
Hey man! Got a question for you! How does the 3S compare with a normal 3C in terms of rim size? I'm looking for a mouthpiece like the Commercial but I'm a bit "scared" that the rim is to big..! Hope you can help! Thank you!
Many thanks for the demo on the Bach commercial trumpet mouthpieces. I have got to ditto TheHuntermoss below. I have a Lawler C7 serial number 880. It's the best trumpet in my arsenal.
Bach Commercial 3MV is a little bigger than Bach 1C, Bach Commercial 5MV is same Bach 1 1/4C. They already have an idea of their equivalences with the other mouthpieces.
Good review thanks. I just got my Bach 3S mp yesterday and have not played it much. One thing,actually two things I notice is the real small throat hole and the very very roundness of the rim something I am not used to in most of my other mps.
Hey man, What model Lawler is that you're playing. I have a C7 serial number 925. I know the C7 was not actually set up for playing lead, but it is the best lead horn I've ever played. Slots extremely easy in all registers, especially about the staff.
In college I worked with Roy to build a C7. He had so many configurations available, I'm sure some were configured for lead. Mine was SN 1112. I traded it away and have honestly never regretted anything more...
Does the 10.5mv have a small cup diameter? Could you please post or send me a picture of the cup of 10.5mv because I've searched alot but couldn't find a picture of it.
If your looking for a Bach shallow mouthpiece use the “f” series like 3F. I use it and it’s great. Compared to the “f” series these are not shallow like the “f” series
It’s all the same shit about new rim Bach, It still too much round !!! The walls Cup almost doesn’t exist in the sharpest cups, the neck of throats it’s too much open in the “E cup style” and too much smaller in the standard cup or deepest ones. The Back Bores still almost ok, but the RIM COUNTER IS SIMPLY SHIT !!! Who plays knows what I’m saying 😜 P.S. This new Mouthpieces Number is just to Reference brand, don’t match with the Standard Séries. S3 is about 16,89 mm. (millimeters) and the S5 about 16,60 mm.
I agree, I bought one and found it to be the most difficult mpc of all the many mpcs I have ! Like crazy ! Throat hole must be smallest I ever seen and the extreme round rim is uncomfortable. Forget about it !
John Healy it’s always a personal thing with Mouthpieces. Throat it’s the same in this models but sharper - small, the Bore - Drill 27 the same, but for me it’s always the Rounded Rim that sucks. Can’t understand that almost people agree with this fact and Bach keep doing this shit.
@@louramoreira There were a lot of trumpeters who couldn't make the switch from pre-merger Bach instruments and mouthpieces to the mouthpieces and instruments they produced after the merger with Conn-Selmer. As it is, Bach outsources their mouthpiece production and the mouthpiece is worth less than $10 until it has "Bach" engraved on it. I agree that their mouthpiece rims curve too sharply.
I hate these pieces. The rim design is awful, throats should be 28 (but are 27) and the backbores are too large. Plus the 3S is WAY bigger than the average Bach 3 diameter. I feel like I was gypped when I bought mine and was ASTONISHED at how horrible a commercial mouthpiece it was. This product line simply made me hate Bach even more than I used to. Antiquated designs, new designs which suck, and too hard to play...
Good to see I am not the only one complaining about new Bach mpc. The rim size: I have a Bach 3 C cornet mpc and the rim seems way larger than a #. I sent the new commercial piece back for refund and did not get full refund because the box was opened ! I do have some older Bach mpcs and they seem better than new ones. The mpc I use mainly now for hi and low overallease from top to bottom is an old Jet Tone 10 D rim is like a Bach 5 somewhat shallow but so comfortable. You may find one on ebay. Not the new Jet Tones which know nothing about and are more expensive than the several Jet Tones I bought some years ago as they were on clearance sale. Worth looking for the Jet Tone 10 D !
Seth Farr i only need to try the 3s, but 100 euros is too much for a small improvement, if I’d go back I’d buy the 3s, little more large inner diameter, but nvm
Recently got the 5MV, great all around mouthpiece, definitely requires a solid embouchure, placing this mouthpiece on a flabby embouchure would probably be disastrous.
@@aklnoyz Huge, the v shape of the 5MV helps rush air through the horn quicker, so if your playing correctly, the air stream is funneling in to the lead pipe very quickly compared to a C cup, so you should notice that it’s very very easy to change dynamic levels. The extra weight of the 5MV provides massive amounts of projection and volume. The high notes feel much more secure because the v cup is so shallow. Only downside is the fact that you really need to avoid overblowing, especially if your coming from a big mouthpiece such as 3c or 1C. I came from a 1C and use the 5MV for lead work as well as Jazz depending on the venue acoustics and microphone quality. Don’t know if I’d use it as an everyday mouthpiece, some people do, this mouthpiece requires a great deal of precision, and some people may not have the patience to adjust to this aspect. Most importantly, I don’t believe that any mouthpiece increases range, but ones like this definitely allow you to utilize your range for a much longer period of time, when played correctly. Hope this helps.
So you definitely wouldn’t want a newer player on this right?
Thanks for the review I brought the 3s and played it at my church today this is a awesome mouthpiece it is very bright and projection is awesome very comfortable playing
Glad you like it!
Hey man! Got a question for you!
How does the 3S compare with a normal 3C in terms of rim size?
I'm looking for a mouthpiece like the Commercial but I'm a bit "scared" that the rim is to big..!
Hope you can help!
Thank you!
Many thanks for the demo on the Bach commercial trumpet mouthpieces. I have got to ditto TheHuntermoss below. I have a Lawler C7 serial number 880. It's the best trumpet in my arsenal.
Thanks. I’ve been trying a Bach Artisan 1C. Very comfortable
i just got a 7mv and wasn’t thinking about the range, it gave me 1 and a half whole steps to my range
Bach Commercial 3MV is a little bigger than Bach 1C, Bach Commercial 5MV is same Bach 1 1/4C. They already have an idea of their equivalences with the other mouthpieces.
Thanks!
Good review thanks. I just got my Bach 3S mp yesterday and have not played it much. One thing,actually two things I notice is the real small throat hole and the very very roundness of the rim something I am not used to in most of my other mps.
John Healy actually it has a 27 throat, simply has a smaller enterence.
why is there no info on these new pieces on the Bach website? I would like to compare measurements.
I have the 3mv and I love it
Hi,can you tell me what style you like to play with the 3mv?
Where did you get it? I can’t find a website for it
Hey man, What model Lawler is that you're playing. I have a C7 serial number 925. I know the C7 was not actually set up for playing lead, but it is the best lead horn I've ever played. Slots extremely easy in all registers, especially about the staff.
I think it's the TL model - great horn!
In college I worked with Roy to build a C7. He had so many configurations available, I'm sure some were configured for lead. Mine was SN 1112. I traded it away and have honestly never regretted anything more...
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Get a System Blue instead. Nice commercial sound with outstanding projection.
I got the 10 1/2 mv and I can shred on it for jazz lead
Does the 10.5mv have a small cup diameter? Could you please post or send me a picture of the cup of 10.5mv because I've searched alot but couldn't find a picture of it.
Pl give mi detail of vincent Bach 10 1/2s series mouthpiece.....
If your looking for a Bach shallow mouthpiece use the “f” series like 3F. I use it and it’s great. Compared to the “f” series these are not shallow like the “f” series
I need a mouthpiece that has a narrower cup diameter than the 7c, could you make a suggestion, I was thinking of trying the 10.5c or the 11
10.5C is narrower and worth a shot!
Donovan Bankhead thank you yeah I’ll definitely try it
Donovan Bankhead oh also, should I get megatone or just normal?
I would stick with the normal 10.5C.
Now that I have a stad I think ima try this probably better than a schilke
I want bless
Good afternoon, I can not buy the 3S mouthpiece, because it is unavailable in the link you pass, could you help me to get one?
Here you go: erniewilliamson.com/bach-3s-trumpet-mouthpiece.html
if a play a 5c which one should i get
The 5S or 5MV.
It’s all the same shit about new rim Bach, It still too much round !!! The walls Cup almost doesn’t exist in the sharpest cups, the neck of throats it’s too much open in the “E cup style” and too much smaller in the standard cup or deepest ones. The Back Bores still almost ok, but the RIM COUNTER IS SIMPLY SHIT !!! Who plays knows what I’m saying 😜
P.S.
This new Mouthpieces Number is just to Reference brand, don’t match with the Standard Séries. S3 is about 16,89 mm. (millimeters) and the S5 about 16,60 mm.
I agree, I bought one and found it to be the most difficult mpc of all the many mpcs I have ! Like crazy ! Throat hole must be smallest I ever seen and the extreme round rim is uncomfortable. Forget about it !
John Healy it’s always a personal thing with Mouthpieces. Throat it’s the same in this models but sharper - small, the Bore - Drill 27 the same, but for me it’s always the Rounded Rim that sucks. Can’t understand that almost people agree with this fact and Bach keep doing this shit.
@@louramoreira There were a lot of trumpeters who couldn't make the switch from pre-merger Bach instruments and mouthpieces to the mouthpieces and instruments they produced after the merger with Conn-Selmer. As it is, Bach outsources their mouthpiece production and the mouthpiece is worth less than $10 until it has "Bach" engraved on it. I agree that their mouthpiece rims curve too sharply.
The Marcinkiewicz E8 is WAY better than any of these commercial pieces
4 times the price tho
I hate these pieces. The rim design is awful, throats should be 28 (but are 27) and the backbores are too large. Plus the 3S is WAY bigger than the average Bach 3 diameter. I feel like I was gypped when I bought mine and was ASTONISHED at how horrible a commercial mouthpiece it was. This product line simply made me hate Bach even more than I used to. Antiquated designs, new designs which suck, and too hard to play...
Good to see I am not the only one complaining about new Bach mpc. The rim size: I have a Bach 3 C cornet mpc and the rim seems way larger than a #. I sent the new commercial piece back for refund and did not get full refund because the box was opened ! I do have some older Bach mpcs and they seem better than new ones. The mpc I use mainly now for hi and low overallease from top to bottom is an old Jet Tone 10 D rim is like a Bach 5 somewhat shallow but so comfortable. You may find one on ebay. Not the new Jet Tones which know nothing about and are more expensive than the several Jet Tones I bought some years ago as they were on clearance sale. Worth looking for the Jet Tone 10 D !
Ahah that’s funny, because after trying the 5s I cannot going bach to normal mouthpieces 🤣
M i just got the 3mv and i cant go back
Seth Farr i only need to try the 3s, but 100 euros is too much for a small improvement, if I’d go back I’d buy the 3s, little more large inner diameter, but nvm
I tried the 1 1/2 C for a year before switching back to Shilke mouthpieces.
NO BACH MOUTHPIECES.