Appreciate the review, John! 💯 great video. In terms of the bugs, these have already been ironed out for the production version, also including: - Upgraded chain has been added - Bash guard on the motor - Upgraded brakes and pads - Upgraded Sprockets - Improved Controller - Mesh on fan added Hope that helps!🤙🏽
Those are some good key areas to upgrade... I love the idea of the bike I do love the display and headlight but having the controller above the rear wheel in a lap that might work but real world conditions it's going to mud dirt rocks everything tossed up there. Maybe I'll take a 2nd look at the next generation model but this bike as is even with them good upgrades I don't see it standing up to my daily ride. I have a sur ron LBX and a few other bikes but my sur ron LBX gets the most road time I use it to get back forth from work only 15miles there and back and get around town with it. But my area has a ton of bad roads unavoidable potholes that stretch the length of the road tons of gravel or broken up asphalt crazy hills that have steps on the sidewalks they so steep. It's a ruff commute on a bike especially all year around. I had a Honda pcx 150 scooter and I broke the frame just from my daily ride to work and back. I'm only 200lbs 5'10 so not me it's the roads. I also like to stunt a little wheelies stoppies maybe cut across the medium pop up and off said walks. My Honda isn't the only bike this commute has killed Phatmoto rover 2019 version Genesis DH mountain bike Icebear mojo Q6 scooter trike And a few Walmart bikes so far the sur ron has held up the best 5k miles and still going. It should also be noted that I am a skilled builder I do regular maintenance and upgrade all essentials on all my bikes titanium nuts and bolts for example higher end pegs chains tires rims tubes I go all out on tubes flats are a real issue or were not so much anymore. If you guys want to put that bike to a REAL test send it to me if it last 6mths than you did your job great 👍
Looking for a test rider/reviewer, I live in Reno, & ride ebikes full time to commute. I work with Fiido & Raev ebikes as of now testing prototypes to provide real world riding feedback, especially with Reno Nevada being a "cold desert", & it's unique geography, & hills, as well as we all get snow.
I like the fact it comes with everything needed to make it street legal, when I first saw this bike I was hoping it was the one you have been talking about for awhile awesome to see u with it and I'm looking forward to seeing you put it through it's paces, love all your content keep up the good work!!!
I like your new E-bike/Electric Motorcycle. It seems to have everything required to register it. If it were mine, I hate being restricted, I would register & insure so you can go anywhere. You being in California would probably require a motorcycle drivers license. I like your BmX footage but personally I prefer seeing you on the Surron or this Solar Eclipse.👍👍🤙👊‼️
Look at a professional cycling race in Europe, the guys crash with there carbon fibre bikes and they split in two. You just can’t repair carbon fibre and these made in China, good luck
@@Demy1970 theirs a guy that owns the original version of this bike the Denzel samurai it's the same carbon fiber frame and he wiped out on the road and cracked his frame pretty badly a big chunk is like hanging off it. It's on youtube
Really happy you transitioned to electric bikes, I used to watch your "BMX in the Hood" videos, & it's even better watching you whip around on some of our favorite ebikes! You need to check out the Raev Bullet GT-X when it comes out, I got the Bullet Pro, which will be like it's lil brother, but still smokes Super 73's, & almost 1/2 the price!
Seems to be more designed toward street use. Sounds awful offroad, but on the street I oddly enjoyed the sound of the motor whine. The motor sits to low for tech woods or enduro. The cockpit is racked toward the rider, good on road but is awkward for MX. The carbon frame is to delicate for tech woods or enduro. Way better for the road where weight directly impacts speed and youll likely not dump it as much. Its way to fast for walking trail but is right at home lane splitting in LA. They throw cheap offroad tires on it to appeals to the broader market. But deep down they know poeple will throw some supermoto tires on and have a pretty sweet street machine. If you're a canyon rider, stunter, urban riding, or commuter, this bike is pretty attractive for its price point.
You’re considering this over the other two you mention??? You clearly don’t know how to read between the lines he got paid it’s sponsored he’s trying to tell you how bad it is in a nice way, but y’all refuse to listen. Hope you’re a solar bot.
You would think it's meant for off road use however if you take a look at the owners manual it says not to take it off road and to not ride aggressively and no jumping. So I'm at a lost at what this bike is supposed to be skipping over how I feel about the design it looks like a dirt bike but isn't at all according to the company that built it soo... Idk
Very efficient design. Motor in swing arm. Less travel to sprocket. Weight is everything in ev.! More speed , more range. I’d like to see a belt drive. The bike is capable of much more performance with easy mods. Not like the 6k you’ll need to mod a Suron.
Here's part of the reply from a conversation I've been having with Solar customer support. Seems like the production version will be even better! The bike has been upgraded from parts, quality and overall specifications. The bike has a new more powerful 400a controller for better torque and top speed, a new quieter chain, new foot pegs and grips, the bike shutting off was for a very small number of bikes which has been rectified. There is also a first on any electric bike a dedicated regen brake, the regen brake is not activated using the handbrake but has its own dedicated thumb control. This vastly improves braking and highly benefits the battery to be charged when using. Plus saves your brake pads. The app which controls the performance, sport or eco mode, as well as torque settings have all been updated also, the iPhone app is currently in the works and will be ready in a couple of months, the android app is ready. With the app you would only need to change settings if you want to increase torque and top speed. The E-Clipse version 2 will not disappoint.
I think it is great that they are including a VIN. Do you know if they are also sending a CO (Certificate of Origin). I would love to be the first road registered and insured Solar rider.
This would be a good road bike but i wouldnt get it if you plan to off road. You void your warranty if you jump it or do "extreme riding". This was originally a denzel samurai but solar purchased the bike design. The controller comes with the power turned down some sso go in the app and crank it up to full power itll be much faster.
Everyone who has reviewed this bike has had that same, "power just died on me", issue. I really want this bike, but that's extremely offputting. Just imagine being in traffic, and the bike just shuts off on you.
Good thing these are review models. Could be a short (hopefully that's not the case). Potential power cut due to a bad sensor reading. Bad dead zone in the throttle or even it's own sensor/potentiometer. There are various things that could be the reason behind it. I'd love for them to make a blog post or something explaining what *that* issue is and how they plan on resolving it before it's launch. I'm currently contemplating on building my own as I have a 72v, 3000w kit at home or diving into a pre-built bike. The only big thing holding me back is having to map out and design my own battery. 🤔
That's the problem I'm having. I want to buy one but I have no experience. I would like to test drive one before I buy one. I don't know if I want a full half or thumb throttle or how fast I want to go. My city isn't a bike friendly city either.
Very nice bike. I only see one possible problem. That motor needs protection due to its location. They need a rock guard or the motor will likely get wrecked if it hits anything solid.
Hey John, how you doing bro videos a lot. Keep it up. Have a question. I also have a Rawrr Mantis ride a lot on the dirt have been riding dirt bikes since I’m like eight years old and I’m older guy. My Ultra bee will this week for myself. I can’t wait. I got it basically the same way you got yours. Saved some money! know your thoughts on what do you think of those two bikes compared to the solar eclipse you just reviewed. Something about the solar eclipse I just don’t like specially when you can’t take the battery out easy and you’re out real fast and a few other things, I just like to know your thought comparing the three. The handling , charging times and the speed , suspension bike and battery life again I would really appreciate your opinions. Thank you so much for your help. By the way I saw read your review on the Rawrr and I have been dealing with Edwin From Rawrr, which is a video shows you got the bike .That company is awesome they have been nothing but helpful. They even sent me a programmer for the controller so I can reprogram it and dial it in a little more the way I’d like it to , thanks for the videos!
Seemed very sweet, about ready to pull out my credit card, then that power cutting off in the middle of the ride,,,, left a sour taste in my mouth. shame ....
Dope bike awesome video. Iwas dead set on getting this bike as it was the only 72v bike that i knew of. Then i heard about the ultra bee until i saw the price. I was going to pull the trigger then i came across the talaria sting R. it was 1500$ less but 60v. I hoped on reddit and realized theirs a huge aftermarket community for these things. Long story short i pulled the trigger on the sting R and purchased a EBMX X9000 and will be getting the chibattery 72v 57ah In a few months. One reason i was leaning towards the talaria is this is not designed for off roading. It says in the manual not to jump it or do hard riding. I do mainly street riding but i want to be able to go off road and hit some jumps. I also liked the form factor of the talaria(smaller). Every review ive seen of this has been great. Im sure its amazing but didnt fit what i want. I currently have a 72v bronco xtreme 11 beast scooter. so I plan to do a race between the 2. Anyways keep up the good content.
I need help team. I am strongly looking at this bike for commuting But IDK what I will need once i buy it. I have a Full Manual Driving licence (Car) , I have 2000 still after buying it. Just mainly do I need anything else other than a No. plater for UK Roads?
I don't ride anything but 72v bikes. I want the speed and the longer riding times. If I wanted a dirt bike 6K is not bad for a 72v bike you will pay that plus some to put a 72v battery in your Surron.
Is it a dirt bike. I think is a street bike to me. Bike comes with turn signals and brake lights. I pre-order mines already. Most dirt bikes dont have turn signals on them.
It’s cool but that pice YIKES‼️. It’s hard to pay that knowing the amazing used street bikes you could get for that $6000 for e-bike fans the talaria makes more sense and save thousands
Has anyone added type 2 charging to an e-bike? It might sound stupid, but I would buy this bike right now if I could add it. Traveling in my van I don’t want to use my batteries to charge it. Also, anybody know the eclipse battery specs and how fast they can be charged?
Appreciate the review, John! 💯 great video. In terms of the bugs, these have already been ironed out for the production version, also including:
- Upgraded chain has been added
- Bash guard on the motor
- Upgraded brakes and pads
- Upgraded Sprockets
- Improved Controller
- Mesh on fan added
Hope that helps!🤙🏽
Those are some good key areas to upgrade... I love the idea of the bike I do love the display and headlight but having the controller above the rear wheel in a lap that might work but real world conditions it's going to mud dirt rocks everything tossed up there.
Maybe I'll take a 2nd look at the next generation model but this bike as is even with them good upgrades I don't see it standing up to my daily ride. I have a sur ron LBX and a few other bikes but my sur ron LBX gets the most road time I use it to get back forth from work only 15miles there and back and get around town with it. But my area has a ton of bad roads unavoidable potholes that stretch the length of the road tons of gravel or broken up asphalt crazy hills that have steps on the sidewalks they so steep. It's a ruff commute on a bike especially all year around. I had a Honda pcx 150 scooter and I broke the frame just from my daily ride to work and back. I'm only 200lbs 5'10 so not me it's the roads. I also like to stunt a little wheelies stoppies maybe cut across the medium pop up and off said walks. My Honda isn't the only bike this commute has killed
Phatmoto rover 2019 version
Genesis DH mountain bike
Icebear mojo Q6 scooter trike
And a few Walmart bikes so far the sur ron has held up the best 5k miles and still going.
It should also be noted that I am a skilled builder I do regular maintenance and upgrade all essentials on all my bikes titanium nuts and bolts for example higher end pegs chains tires rims tubes I go all out on tubes flats are a real issue or were not so much anymore.
If you guys want to put that bike to a REAL test send it to me if it last 6mths than you did your job great 👍
Looking for a test rider/reviewer, I live in Reno, & ride ebikes full time to commute.
I work with Fiido & Raev ebikes as of now testing prototypes to provide real world riding feedback, especially with Reno Nevada being a "cold desert", & it's unique geography, & hills, as well as we all get snow.
55mph, now that's fast!
I like the fact it comes with everything needed to make it street legal, when I first saw this bike I was hoping it was the one you have been talking about for awhile awesome to see u with it and I'm looking forward to seeing you put it through it's paces, love all your content keep up the good work!!!
I like it. Looks really nice. I agree, a much more rigid chain would be ideal.
It looks goofy ahh 🙄🤦♀️🤏🍆
I like your new E-bike/Electric Motorcycle. It seems to have everything required to register it. If it were mine, I hate being restricted, I would register & insure so you can go anywhere. You being in California would probably require a motorcycle drivers license. I like your BmX footage but personally I prefer seeing you on the Surron or this Solar Eclipse.👍👍🤙👊‼️
I don’t use or trust Telegram.
The design of this is awesome. Looks like something Batman would ride.
Hell yeah!
I love my SurRon. I said I wouldn’t upgrade my bike but I ended up changing the wheels and changing mudguards and putting livery on it. 😂
Change to the 54sprocket if you're stock it actually makes the bike feel fast
Trust me it's the best upgrade
That bike is so beautiful 😮
You are living your best life you get sent some good stuff to review.
I wouldn’t get one of these in carbon fibre unless it’s only on road and you don’t dump it, carbon gets ruined by a big crash
It’s not meant for off road. I say that cause motor location
And you void you warranty if you jump it or do "extreme riding"
Look at a professional cycling race in Europe, the guys crash with there carbon fibre bikes and they split in two. You just can’t repair carbon fibre and these made in China, good luck
@@Demy1970 theirs a guy that owns the original version of this bike the Denzel samurai it's the same carbon fiber frame and he wiped out on the road and cracked his frame pretty badly a big chunk is like hanging off it. It's on youtube
Talking like metal or plastic is impervious to big crashes.
Love the fact that you point out it is dangerously fast!
Really happy you transitioned to electric bikes, I used to watch your "BMX in the Hood" videos, & it's even better watching you whip around on some of our favorite ebikes!
You need to check out the Raev Bullet GT-X when it comes out, I got the Bullet Pro, which will be like it's lil brother, but still smokes Super 73's, & almost 1/2 the price!
Seems to be more designed toward street use.
Sounds awful offroad, but on the street I oddly enjoyed the sound of the motor whine. The motor sits to low for tech woods or enduro. The cockpit is racked toward the rider, good on road but is awkward for MX. The carbon frame is to delicate for tech woods or enduro. Way better for the road where weight directly impacts speed and youll likely not dump it as much. Its way to fast for walking trail but is right at home lane splitting in LA.
They throw cheap offroad tires on it to appeals to the broader market. But deep down they know poeple will throw some supermoto tires on and have a pretty sweet street machine. If you're a canyon rider, stunter, urban riding, or commuter, this bike is pretty attractive for its price point.
I liked the part where it stopped working suddenly.
Amazing bike
Very good bike and nice riding location no rubbish or weird people.
Help a brother out I'm stressing out which to get mantis, talaria R,solar eclipse
You’re considering this over the other two you mention??? You clearly don’t know how to read between the lines he got paid it’s sponsored he’s trying to tell you how bad it is in a nice way, but y’all refuse to listen. Hope you’re a solar bot.
stock buy a Talaria sting R plan on heavy modifying buy a Surron .
@@burn1gotbeatsI guess talaria it is 😂
@@Offthevoltz yeah you right but since he mentioned his surron a few times
If you where considering eclipse that is 6k might as well just get the best one out there….the ultra bee.
It looks like a more simplistic version of the surron or a more sleek design
You would think it's meant for off road use however if you take a look at the owners manual it says not to take it off road and to not ride aggressively and no jumping.
So I'm at a lost at what this bike is supposed to be skipping over how I feel about the design it looks like a dirt bike but isn't at all according to the company that built it soo... Idk
keys are for the steering lock bro 🤝
Very efficient design. Motor in swing arm. Less travel to sprocket. Weight is everything in ev.! More speed , more range. I’d like to see a belt drive.
The bike is capable of much more performance with easy mods. Not like the 6k you’ll need to mod a Suron.
Sick sponsorships bro. You living the dream!
4k video looking cleaan boiii
Here's part of the reply from a conversation I've been having with Solar customer support. Seems like the production version will be even better!
The bike has been upgraded from parts, quality and overall specifications.
The bike has a new more powerful 400a controller for better torque and top speed, a new quieter chain, new foot pegs and grips, the bike shutting off was for a very small number of bikes which has been rectified.
There is also a first on any electric bike a dedicated regen brake, the regen brake is not activated using the handbrake but has its own dedicated thumb control. This vastly improves braking and highly benefits the battery to be charged when using. Plus saves your brake pads.
The app which controls the performance, sport or eco mode, as well as torque settings have all been updated also, the iPhone app is currently in the works and will be ready in a couple of months, the android app is ready. With the app you would only need to change settings if you want to increase torque and top speed.
The E-Clipse version 2 will not disappoint.
John you are getting all the good emotos. Awesome. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I think it is great that they are including a VIN. Do you know if they are also sending a CO (Certificate of Origin). I would love to be the first road registered and insured Solar rider.
You ever go ahead and do it? I'm curious in getting one to register as well
I do not have a Solar, but I wish I did.@@spartankittygames
This would be a good road bike but i wouldnt get it if you plan to off road. You void your warranty if you jump it or do "extreme riding". This was originally a denzel samurai but solar purchased the bike design. The controller comes with the power turned down some sso go in the app and crank it up to full power itll be much faster.
Hell yeah dude, totally wicked.
the doug demuro of e bikes
I hope we get to see some alley exploring on this beast!
yessssss i was waiting for this videoooo
Awesome bike…keep up the videos
Love the bike John might have to get one myself.
Actually the best videos🔥
@Mr_John_Hicks 🤣🤣
This the 2nd video I've watched where these bikes have random shutoff issues. Makes me real hesitant to drop 6 grand on one.
same
Amazing bike love it, great review John
Amazing! That bug in the throttle is scary lol
This was a pre-production unit. This has now been remedied in the production models
We all want to see the ultra bee come on bro
Would need insurance to ride this where I live, but I can't see an insurance company that would take it on, it's really cool, what's not to like.
Everyone who has reviewed this bike has had that same, "power just died on me", issue. I really want this bike, but that's extremely offputting. Just imagine being in traffic, and the bike just shuts off on you.
Good thing these are review models. Could be a short (hopefully that's not the case). Potential power cut due to a bad sensor reading. Bad dead zone in the throttle or even it's own sensor/potentiometer. There are various things that could be the reason behind it. I'd love for them to make a blog post or something explaining what *that* issue is and how they plan on resolving it before it's launch.
I'm currently contemplating on building my own as I have a 72v, 3000w kit at home or diving into a pre-built bike. The only big thing holding me back is having to map out and design my own battery. 🤔
yessir for a new bike
the battery shape design is good the way its not ugly
😂I honestly thought as soon as you started on the bike & went over the curb the chain come off😂👍
I have an old mongoose cx24v450 that also has the motor mounted on the swingarm but the motor sits inside the swingarm and not under
Nice bike ,keep up the good work
That's the problem I'm having. I want to buy one but I have no experience. I would like to test drive one before I buy one. I don't know if I want a full half or thumb throttle or how fast I want to go. My city isn't a bike friendly city either.
Very nice bike. I only see one possible problem. That motor needs protection due to its location. They need a rock guard or the motor will likely get wrecked if it hits anything solid.
The motor is encased inside that waterproof metal casing, the bike also ships with a bash guard should you want to fit one.
Brake sensor prob why the bike died
Hey John, how you doing bro videos a lot. Keep it up. Have a question. I also have a Rawrr Mantis ride a lot on the dirt have been riding dirt bikes since I’m like eight years old and I’m older guy. My Ultra bee will this week for myself. I can’t wait. I got it basically the same way you got yours. Saved some money! know your thoughts on what do you think of those two bikes compared to the solar eclipse you just reviewed.
Something about the solar eclipse I just don’t like specially when you can’t take the battery out easy and you’re out real fast and a few other things, I just like to know your thought comparing the three. The handling , charging times and the speed , suspension bike and battery life again I would really appreciate your opinions. Thank you so much for your help. By the way I saw read your review on the Rawrr and I have been dealing with Edwin From Rawrr, which is a video shows you got the bike .That company is awesome they have been nothing but helpful. They even sent me a programmer for the controller so I can reprogram it and dial it in a little more the way I’d like it to , thanks for the videos!
you have a fleet of ebikes now
Was that Wild Parsnip when you were on the trails? Careful with that stuff bro if it is…you’ll get blisters all over if you got into it and itch
Seemed very sweet, about ready to pull out my credit card, then that power cutting off in the middle of the ride,,,, left a sour taste in my mouth. shame ....
How stable does it feel at top speeds?!
Dope bike awesome video. Iwas dead set on getting this bike as it was the only 72v bike that i knew of. Then i heard about the ultra bee until i saw the price. I was going to pull the trigger then i came across the talaria sting R. it was 1500$ less but 60v. I hoped on reddit and realized theirs a huge aftermarket community for these things. Long story short i pulled the trigger on the sting R and purchased a EBMX X9000 and will be getting the chibattery 72v 57ah In a few months. One reason i was leaning towards the talaria is this is not designed for off roading. It says in the manual not to jump it or do hard riding. I do mainly street riding but i want to be able to go off road and hit some jumps. I also liked the form factor of the talaria(smaller). Every review ive seen of this has been great. Im sure its amazing but didnt fit what i want. I currently have a 72v bronco xtreme 11 beast scooter. so I plan to do a race between the 2. Anyways keep up the good content.
I need help team. I am strongly looking at this bike for commuting But IDK what I will need once i buy it.
I have a Full Manual Driving licence (Car) , I have 2000 still after buying it.
Just mainly do I need anything else other than a No. plater for UK Roads?
seems awesome... why aren't any new videos with it?
Didnt you just get a Ultra Bee? lets see it!
That's a really good looking bike John but you definitely need to change that tichy chain...ride safe bro.
Chain in the production models have been swapped for a thick, higher quality chain.
Plastic fairings need like rubber washers.
Aye juiced joyrides has a vid about an app to unlock more of the bike👍
Hello can I order a hicks with a pickle dickle with a side of merry cherry very berry Beverly on top of the liberty city tick?
Is a license required for this bike and can you put pegals on this bike ?
I don't ride anything but 72v bikes. I want the speed and the longer riding times. If I wanted a dirt bike 6K is not bad for a 72v bike you will pay that plus some to put a 72v battery in your Surron.
Is it a dirt bike. I think is a street bike to me. Bike comes with turn signals and brake lights. I pre-order mines already. Most dirt bikes dont have turn signals on them.
Those handlebars don’t look wide enough?? It is loud ??
I guess they sent one of these to just about every youtuber they could 😂
How much will this be in India?

I don’t know depends on shipping
It’s cool but that pice YIKES‼️. It’s hard to pay that knowing the amazing used street bikes you could get for that $6000 for e-bike fans the talaria makes more sense and save thousands
How much is it 🎉🎉
It’s one of the first things he mentions at the beginning of the video
£4,999
Amazon?
6k dang expensive but is a beautiful bike bro
Is the legal in UK
Yes you can register the E-Clipse easily in the UK
awesome video john hicks, can i have it i will use it to get to work
What happen to the ultra be ride?
skid plate ?
I ordered a sweatshirt in like 2017 & still haven’t got it 😢😢😢😢😢
is ultra bee better?
Can the tires be changed for street use?
Yes
You might as well buy a motorcycle at that price point, honestly.
@@peternagy-im4be That can't go very far.
Any clue on how to delete speed limiter a citycoco 3000w scooter
You'd need a new controller that's compatible
Do you still ride your mountain bike
I was like yes he is taking the new bike for a ride the new suron , but u got another bike .
@Mr_John_Hicks I wasn't born yesterday 😘 🤣👌
how much are they and can i win one or can i plug one in other countrys if i travel with it
Has anyone added type 2 charging to an e-bike? It might sound stupid, but I would buy this bike right now if I could add it. Traveling in my van I don’t want to use my batteries to charge it. Also, anybody know the eclipse battery specs and how fast they can be charged?
Love it Nice
love it
😮
They really ruined it with the battery access. Also I don't get why none of these companies have battery panniers to extend range
Where the Surron
have you guys noticed every single videos of new bike tested there's at least one time where the bike cut off FOR NO REASONS, they can't fix that
This is a rebranded Denzel Samurai. I’ve had a Samurai since 2020
For that money you can get a used 600cc sport bike sheeeeesh👀👀
Guys you can buy a brand new Honda cbr300 motorcycle for 5k. These electric bikes are not worth more then a legit motorcycle.
Love to get one but they are unresponsive
Do i need a license plate for this ?
What I got from this video is that bike is worth $1,500 MAX 😂
They are a cool bike but dumb design, why would you put the battery where it is and the motor is literally where my Surron hits the most😂
Like actual R&D money was spent and ended up with this. It’s mind boggling.
Hey I live in south Africa and I don't have money to buy one so are you giving this away 😅
that chain looks like a old cheap goped chainset!!
💯‼️💙