58mph e-moto is Insane! 72V Solar E-Clipse Review
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Faster than an e-bike. Fits in the back of our 4Runner, because it's so much smaller than an e-moto! We performance test Solar's E-Clipse! See the full review!
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I wouldn't have it. I wouldn't have anything that has the motor mounted on / under the swingarm like that... Nope. It needs better positioning and some protection.
@@st33ldi9italyou do realise that the motor is there for weight distribution which helps in a larger battery, it’s designed for mostly roads, solars Instagram shows it going off road properly with zero issues for the motor, if you knew about weight distribution it’s perfectly distributed. Surrons motor is right under the battery which means it needs a sump guard to protect the motor and cables this dosent. It’s beautiful
@@spottedsupercars7919 That’s nice. All I know is it wouldn’t last a year for me. If that… and, if you knew anything about moto design, you would know that excess weight on a swing arm effects performance negatively. But what would I know, only been a biker my whole life and mx racer when younger. Like I said, I wouldn’t have it. What’s the point of cg if you aren’t gonna be goin off-road or jumping it? There isn’t. It looks cool. Great. Go ahead and drop 6k cause it looks cool.
@@st33ldi9ital I have never ridden a dirt bike. But i love my electric scooters for cruising and going to work. Good way to save gas. I really like this and am considering getting one just to mash around for fun and take to work. And it does look pretty dope. Although after watching sur ron videos and going off road and off jumps looks like alot of fun. So your saying this bike isnt capable of doing that without potentially hitting engine and braking it?
Tested this bike - and I have to say one of the best bikes I’ve tested, compared to super soco, and cafe racers it’s a no brainer, lightweight, speed, everything is there
That’s awesome! We really enjoyed testing this bike also. Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide So it is now August. Did they get DOT approval? Are these license platable?
@@stevesuttn4999 Hey there, I'm currently looking into this myself. They are platable for sure, support confirms you can register as a motorcycle. Not sure about DOT, approval, I could ask.
WOW GREAT REVEIW - already pre-ordered can’t wait to ride this
Awesome! Enjoy your ride when it arrives! -Paul
The local dealer network is the thing that will be essential to these manufacturers, and what will likely eat traditional gas manufacturers alive. Thanks for opening this channel up to something more relatable to me!
Awesome! Thanks so much for stopping by. -Vosk
Thank you! I agree. I think this could be huge with dealer support. -Paul
definitely bound to take a big chunk out of ICE motorcycles, but they'll be around for a long while yet
Beautiful job on the small review can't wait until you get another bike to test it with ✌️👊👍💪❤
Awesome! Thanks so much for the kind words. -Vosk
This is my ideal of e-motos. I hope more people pay attention to this one.
Me too! I could seriously see this replacing my 400lb >$13k Triumph motorcycle for city riding. -Paul
Every video I see about this bike makes me want one more and more.
It’s an absolutely incredible machine! -Vosk
much cooler than any escooter ... if I could straddle it ( a bad hip ) something like this would definitely be first choice ... no doubt it's a motorcycle
Just got a variant to this, the vmx08 from e-powersports, and this is an awesome bike. Helps that my state just eliminated both pedal and wattage limits for electric mopeds so this is a moped so 5 bucks a year and one VIN number inspection is all I need for LIFE. This bike is tuned down and can probably handle 12-20kw of power with no upgrades needed bc the controller is 300 amps and the motor/battery seems capable of it as well. Needs shinko 244s or street tires bc it's more commuter than dirt bike but can do both. Love it so far.
Enjoy your new ride!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide oh I am for sure lol it's a blast!
Great review. This is the way mobility is going. Higher range batteries next. You did say ESG range in the video I think. Lol
Ha ha! I noticed that during editing, but decided to leave it. :-) -Paul
Cannot wait for the Full review on the Fluid Vista electric scooter.
Should be very soon! Thanks -Vosk
Don't really see this type of e bike in my city but I'm super exited for it. I just hope you're allowed to bring this inside the metro. They have no problem with my beast scooter but this might be to large.
Hard to say about the metro. If you don't look down (no pedals) it's looks a lot like a big-tire e-bike, because it's so skinny side to side. I think the headlight is a bit of a giveaway though. It's the shape and size of a motorcycle headlight, where the Surrons have more of a NAMI / escooter headlight. -Paul
This is the reason why I am still using my Kaabo Wolf.
If I wanted to pay for insurance, I might as well buy a real motorcycle.
I'm really curious how long the world will let us scooter riders get by without insurance. I guess bicycles have been doing it for over 100 years, so maybe they'll leave us alone for a while. -Paul
This will pass as an ebike just as easily as a surron and they don't have any issues. A class 2 ebike doesn't need pedals throttle only but their limited to 20mph so just don't get caught hauling ass and no problem. I wouldn't want to license my bike either then I have to obey the laws of the road and I likebusi g mine as a bike on and off road trails sidewalks bike lanes anywhere.
i’m keeping my eye on this bike great review.
That’s great! We appreciate you stopping by. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide anytime 😎😇💯
Just ordered mine. Cant wait :)
Awesome! How do you plan to use it the most? On road, off-road? Transportation? Just got fun? All of the above? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Getting to work. And fun. Going to throw on some supermoto street tires to get even more range!
@@Makoholic11did you get your bike already. Did your register it so it's considered a Motorcycle.
Scooters won the PEV evaluation competition for me by fitting in a sedan's trunk.
Last mile transportation, backup transportation in case of emergencies... it's a huge deal. 😎
Love these bikes, though, very compelling as primary local transportation.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback. It’s much appreciated. -Vosk
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13:00 The excitement he had just to know it was the price of the battery 😂😭 It’s so sad and funny at the same time
Nice bike…glad you get a real VIN #😁⚡️
For sure! Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
interesting, I do wish they had a pedal option just because in a lot of cities (mine included) no pedals means you will be stopped and your bike seized by local law enforcment as an unregistered vehicle and for riding on trails or bike lanes on a motorized vehicle. those generating pedals might actually make sense here, no connection to wheel just a generator spum by the pedals to add a little power to the battery
We are sure there will be a lot for a pedal option on this one. -Vosk
I just this the other day looks amazing.
Awesome! Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
I love where the technology is going! Motorsport are about to change forever
We agree! Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide have you seen the ESC? I’ve signed up for it, super excited for news to come on that
what a time to be alive 😊
For sure! Such amazing innovation. -Vosk
Hi guys, great content as always! I’d like to make a suggestion: please organize your videos into playlists on your channel according to vehicle type. I understand you guys are branching out and support your decision, but it would also really help to keep things organized for us e-scooter folk.
Thanks again!
Noted! Thanks for the suggestion. -Vosk
Great idea! We have a few playlists, but it's time to sort them by vehicle type for sure! -Paul
I. Am. Ready. For. This. 🎉
Enjoy and Thanks for watching! -Vosk
Same 🎉🎉
It's junk, I have one.
Hey paul, Great review as usual looks pretty sweet. Currently have a bronco xtreme 11. I m selling it and getting the bronco vnom xtreme 11. Also considering grabbing this. How is the power compared to a wolf king gt or DT X Limited? I know you said its quicker 0-60 but overall? Also fun factor. Thanks
The torque is insane on this thing! It’s super fun overall and takes potholes like a champ. Drove over 200 miles on this thing and loving it honestly. We also have an exclusive code RIDERGUIDE200 for $200 off if you are interested.
This bike looks massively appealing!!
Can you compare it more closely to the Talaria Sting R?
We would love to, but we’ll need to get our hands on a Sting R first! -Paul
Here's hoping yall get one soon I would love see that comparison instead of just speculating from other videos
Excellent info, as a former racer this is impressive. Only god knows the future
Thanks for the great review, I messaged solar about the Regen and they said it was proportional is that true did you try it out?
Yes we tried them! They are proportional. Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
If I get some money down the line, this is definitely would be my main motorcycle. Limit the speed at 30 around the city and go ham offroad
For sure! We love this machine. -Vosk
Love how it’s so quiet compared to surron
You void your warranty if you jump it or do "extreme riding" for 6k the surron ultra bee is a far better bike.
Another exciting PEV addition and great review. Were you able to completely unlock the top speed through the app? Cheers.
Yes very simple to unlock full speed! -Vosk
Hi Bud,
Yes, I made a second trip back to the top-speed run spot because it wasn't fully unlocked the first time. The second visit, I had it cranked as high as the app would let me go, and the performance curve had a nice un-limited asymptotic shape to it. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way to get even more though with a little modification somewhere. The motor is rated for 12kW. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Awesome. Thank you so much for the detailed information.
In Florida, the Solar E-Clipse is considered an “Off-highway vehicle” and is issued a sticker instead of a license plate.
I would love to know if you choose the option of having 16" wheels (not 19") with road tires would that drop the seat height of 30" maybe? Also how many charge cycles does the battery have before only being able to charge it to 80%? Such a Cool Bike..✌️
Please email solar scooters CS and they will gladly answer these questions. Thanks for stopping by.
Any thoughts on the gotrax apex, it’s the cheapest scooter in gotrax right now, but I can’t seem to find much info or reviews on it
It’s a decent starter scooter!
So the price is extremely high for me. What are some options that can be similar but lower price tags. I would love one and looks beautiful
Check out our lists on riderguide.com
Where does the 2500w motor output number come from? I'm checking the website and they cite the controller and motor outputs 8000w
Nominal and Peak power!
looks pretty small compared to a normal 250cc 2 stroke. wish it sat higher. am i off base?
We had no issues with ours! We love it
is the solar eclipse the same bike as the velimotor VMX 08? they look 1:1 the same. if yes do you think it worth to get it instead of a surron light bee? im 6'3 and i dont rly feel like putting the 5k ontop the light bee just to have something that is a bit faster. the eclipse prolly just need another controller and can do the same stuff since it already got the 72V battery.
We have not tested the other one! We love the eclipse and it’s great speed and power. You can use code RIDERGUIDE200 to get $200 off if you like. -Vosk
Hi I would love for you to make a review of the vsett 9+ if you don't mind
Noted! Thanks for the suggestion. -Vosk
How did u disconnect the break sensor to do the burn out shorts ?? I have this bike and want to know
Please contact solar CS for a detailed response! -Vosk
im on the cusp of ordering one of these. i would like to be able to commute at least one day a week from my house to work (50 miles) and i don't want a regular motorcycle. this might be the ticket!
Great option! Use code RG300 for $300 off your order.
What is a side stand ??? Are you referring to a kick stand, and a kick stand safty switch??
Yes it’s a kick stand!
Damn I want one…
Will there be a review on the Nami Blast?
Yes
People are saying this bike just shuts off randomly sometimes. Have you heard anything about that issue?
Not at all! We did over 200 miles and no issues. There might be a setting that it shuts off after a certain amount of idle time but that is tunable in the settings. -Vosk
Making it street legal takes all the fun from having these types of bikes and if u going to do so u may as well get a full bike for the price
Is there any way to lower the seat height via suspension, lowering kit etc…
With the suspension the setting seat can be lowered by a 1-1.5 inches -Vosk
I wonder if Solar will make a lowering seat for it.
What was your average speed during the range test?
23-25mph
I find this bike really really cool! I just wish the headlight was a little smaller. In my opinion it's a little big and blocky.
Fair enough!
Yeah, would you like fries with that too?!? 😠
in EU i just want to get it 125cc certified so i can get in a highway even if its just for a couple of km at a time
This has a vin so can get registered! -Vosk
Have you tried the Talaria R? I'm considering that over the surron now
We have not tried the Talaria Yet! Possibly in the future. We drove over 200 miles on this bike and really had a great time. Very powerful and small size for speed and battery you are getting. -Vosk
just ordered the talaria r
I have the original talaria it's an excellent bike
Nice review!
How tall are you?
Paul is 5-11
do you need a motorcycle license to have/ride one? or is that just in case of theft? for both the E-Clips and all Surrons?
Depends on your locality! This solar eclipse is rare because it gives you the ability it register if you want to. Most similar bikes don’t come with VINS! This one does. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm in California do I need a license in Albany ca? and I'm 15 do I still need a license? for a Surron?
I know this off topics. Any update happened to those people who try to push you off?
We filed a police report! No response yet. Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
I’m 6.5 ft, will this be a good bike for me ?
Yes you should be fine! You can grab $300 OFF with coupon code RG300
I'll wait for the 160v model lol.
Was the review done on the 2.0 version?
We are working on it currently!
I need to see it with street tires
Most def will be an option for sure! -Vosk
i have question ....have you heard of E powersports out of nevada ?
because he's been selling this bike's twin brother for months now ...the velimotors vmx-08 boast similar specs AND the carbon fiber frame ...so what gives solar? could someone explain how two identical bikes are being sold by 2 different companies for almost the same price ?
There are many companies that can buy a mold of a scooter from a OEM manufacturer in China. However Solar takes a OEM frame let’s say and then adds it’s own custom motors , display , throttle , batteries and brands it. Then a warranty and after sales is what separates everyone from the pack. We do know that solar in house designed many features on the Eclipse. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide okay ...makes sense ...so your saying the solar is ia better ..or custom quality version ? i'll say it is impressive ..but it does make you do a triple take lol
I own a vmx08 from e-powersports. This frame was designed by Denzel and was called the samurai. To my knowledge Denzel went under or discontinued the samurai and the factory that made the frame acquired the rights. This frame will be the new Enduro bomber style frame imo. There are at least 3 different companies selling this frame/motor/controller under different names (vmx08, eclipse, shredder). Mine has a different display and a thumb "throttle" that activates Regen brakes. The really cool thing is that this bike is tuned waaaayyy down compared to its full potential and could be a 12kw to 20kw monster with NO UPGRADES just programming the controller.
The original bike is called a Denzel samurai... but solar version is new and improved in many ways bigger battery that's removable, folding foot pegs, new controller, better suspension, better moto style brakes, etc.
@@williambontrager2349 your battery is only capable of 10kw
Can you put a windshield on it?
Not sure! Please email solar scooters and they can give you a correct answer. -Vosk
Do we need a license for it in California?
Depends on your locality! Most just fly under the radar but the fact that you CAN register it if you want to is a plus. -Vosk
In Canada if it doesn't have pedals and is capable of these speeds, it must be licensed and insured! Probably the same price as 300cc motorcycle with less security and range anxiety no matter how big the battery is.
That's why I haven't bought a surron or talaria.
No one bothers me riding my Kaabo Wolf.
Yeah, I'll probably plate the E-Clipse if I end up getting to use it long-term :-) -Paul
I want this so bad I’m over the road truck driver this would be perfect for me
It’s an awesome machine for sure!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide where do I get one ? Or do you sale them?
Dude, I’m here for the exact same reason. I’m a trucker too. Im going to buy one and put it right behind the truck. What i live about this one is the super light weight and the ability to run 60mph and battery exchange
How does this compare to the onyx rcr
We have not tried the onyx but we really love the solar eclipse!
None of the reviews mention battery charge time
It’s 3-4 hours from 0% battery! -Vosk
do you need to register to the dmv?
Depends on your locality! Most places do not but some that do you can if you choose to. Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
How long does it take to charge ?
4-6 hrs
Shifting is the best part
Why the rear frame isn’t lifted ? Rear suspension Should’ve been lifted a few inches…
They did a lot of research and testing on this one and seems solid! We had a blast testing our unit. -Vosk
I would guess that it's to keep the seat height at 32 inches so it's accessible to more people. Pre-load can be adjusted so that it stays higher when the rider is sitting on it. -Paul
What is (form. ESG)
Former Electric Scooter Guide
💯‼️💙
Besides a VIN, it also seems have a frame build for full grown adults :-)
It’s an amazing machine for sure! -Vosk
Doesn't Segway make an e dirt bike thing?
Yes they do a few versions! Believe surron/similar model
@RiderGuide they decent, or have you not had the opportunity to try them out yet?
How co you not get pulled over on this thing
Most PEVs are not legal so if all depends on which locality you are in and if they enforce it or not.
how weather-proof is this? Could this be left parked out like a true motorbike?
We don’t recommend that for theft reasons
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Well, my work is in a barbed wire yard on govt. property, so I was just curious.
Good luck competing against Talaria... It's taking over the world. Be honest did they send you a unit to review.
We have not gotten the talaria yet! -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I was asking if the bike on your video is a review unit. Talaria doesn't need to send review units they're good to go.
@@elpapito7809 The Talaria R beats the Surron X in every way.
If you really want to sell alot of these they need to price match surrons at 4.5k only then will ot be a better bike for the price, although still not a better off road option. For 6k it competes woth the surron ultra bee and the ultra bee is a far better bike at that price range. One big shitty thing about the solar is you void your warranty if you jump it or do "extreme riding" if you just want to use it as a comkuter bioe around town ot would be a great bike.
We will see how this stacks up with the competition in time but we really enjoyed our test unit. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide its a nice bike I almost bought the original version the Denzel samurai. I was very tempted, the bike was only like 4k at the time and to my knowledge didn't void any warranty for extreme riding. I went with the Talaria sting instead for many reasons mainly being that it's just a better off road bike. Though I definitely think the solar is a better road bike if that's what your gonna use it for and they fixed alot of the things I didn't like about the Denzel like a bigger R
Swappable battery, foldable footpegs, better controller, better suspension, better moto style brakes. It really is a nice bike I just think people will want to use a bike like this for occasionally messing around off road and I don't think you should void your warranty doing so. Just my 2 cents.
This is a motorcycle I need one I can put a license plate and the security is awesome
For sure! It’s an excellent machine to say the least. -Vosk
Getting a motorcycle licence is the deal killer here.
You don’t have to! It says it’s an option if you want to. -Vosk
@RiderGuide so if you have a Motorcycle License this can be registered as a Motorcycle then. That's what I want.
Any chance you know the weight of the battery?
It is 35lbs! Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide damn!
This looks dope. If I can get it licensed as a motorcycle at dmv this is what Im really looking for. Who can afford a $40k fucking harley?
Yes that will be possible in the next few months. You will be able to register it. -Vosk
RAMIER YOUR FAVOURITE SCOOTERS JUST GOT BETTER KAABO ANNOUNCED THE WOLF KING GTR
We should be getting one the test! Thanks for the heads up. -Vosk
how i wish i could afford these e bikes
Awesome bikes for sure! -Vosk
The extra weight of the battery would probably bring you closer to 110 miles
Thanks for stopping by!
Do you need a license for this bike
Depends on your state! It has the ability to be registered if desired.
I still think the bike needs a smash plate on that underslung motor
We have had no issues with our model! -Vosk
I'm curious if you had a brand name established and a following why on earth do you change it?
We're branching out beyond scooters, and typing out electric-scooter.guide was harder than riderguide.com :-) -Paul
@Rider Guide (form. ESG) Paul either way you guys are my go to pros!
Thank you so much Patrick! :-) -Paul
Its expensive right! 😅
Surron prices! Better specs. -Vosk
If your moped exceeds legal limits you can license it as a motorcycle with no speed restrictions!
These ebikes are superb but the price is still too high. You can get a superb performance petrol motorbike in great condition for these prices. Loads of people would love a battery bike as they don’t go very far, but the price is stopping them. Also they NEED to be licence plateable and legal for the road. That’s what people WANT.
You have the ability to register it and insure it but that’s optional. Most places it’s a very very grey area.
All I want is the ability to pedal then it's legal
They will have a pedal kit in the future! -Vosk
They need to stop calling these e-bikes.
Ebikes have pedals. Everything else is a motorcycle.
Also, in most places to be considered an ebike, it needs peddles. This is considered a motorcycle.
In canada, you need a motorcycle license to use that bike and must register it since 72v.
Dont do it, cops pull you over and theres no peddles, its getting towed away.
They will be selling a pedal kit soon!
Talaria Sting r rebrand.....with a 72 volt battery but limited in speed.
Rider Guide..can you confirm for us?
These guys have been known to rebrand ..somewhat...
Not at all related to the Talaria. This has a carbon fiber frame. I understand that there is an existing e-moto out there that shares a lot in common with this one. Samurai something? But not the Talaria. -Paul
this bike is a rebrand of denzel samurai, originally priced at $3500, now they are doubling the price after the name change 🤣 what a joke
I can't really call this a bike. If people see one of these on a bike path, they would probably be not at all happy.
Depends on where you are! -Vosk
A moped can only go 30. So how can this be anything different than a motorcycle. There are limits on motor size to be an ebike so eco mode doesnt actually make it legal as a ebike. So this is still technically not street legal i would assume in any way.
This can be registered! It has a vin
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide but only as a moped correct or can it be registered as a motorcycle?
Yes. You can register as a motorcycle here in America
This has to be my least favorite ebike. They got so much wrong while trying to compete with surron/talaria.
What things do you like better about the Surron? And do you prefer the X or the Ultra? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide frame material, Good string aluminum will do. Battery compartment, battery swaps or removal needs to be easy. Swing arm and Suspension components, they play the lines of it being off road bike it is not. could’ve just made it look like a nice road bike . Motor placement, it’s asking to be broken off. Chain size. how do you make a product that is obviously competing with surron (it’s even in the tittle of this video and most other YT reviewers) inferior in every way and more expensive. This bike is 6k, Get the surron on Alibaba 3800 and spend 2200 on upgrades, thank me later.
Pretty please with a cherry on top can I win
Yeah carbon 6k no thanks I'd buy a dr650 first because I'm a dinosaur and I like to pull up to gas barrel in south America and be gone In seconds and I also like to go 100 mph not 40 😊
But then you have to listen to a thumper! :-P I can listen to triples, twins and cross-plane 4's all day, but thumper sounds wear me down. (I used to own a motorcycle shop in SF called MotoJava). I know, I know what you're going to say.... Braaaaaap! And that's true! But the rest of the time bup bup bup :-) -Paul
You what is stopping me from getting this great Ebike? Answer: my wife! Right all married guys?
Haha
That's kinda pathetic.
Pretty pricey compared to the talaria R.....
We have not tested the talaria yet!
It's 72 volts with a 300 amp controller and a carbon fiber frame. You would have to put a 2500 chi battery and a 800 buck bac 4000 controller and 600 buck motorcycle brakes to get close to this. Plus this has a VIN number, Regen, alarm, turn signals, etc.
Link? All I'm finding on Google is a Talaria Sting R and it's showing to have a 60v 45ah battery.
@@WideLoad405 look up the velimotors vmx08.
Everyone can afford them might be a strech lol.
I'd say a very very VERY small percentage of the population can afford to spend $1500+ on a Bic. Most people can afford to just "get rid of their car" and switch it for an electric vehicle
Oh I'm sorry, 6000
You would be surprised how many over $1500 scooters are sold yearly!