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The film is an absolute masterpiece. My senior thesis, this film was the core of it. Spanned 50 pages. But that was the 90's. Nowadays.....Ida been thrown in a mental hospital.
and they dont like it cause it exposes their THOUGHTS. it exposes their minds. The scars that each person bears throughout life, dictates how their life will unfold thereafter. The level of extreme, indicates the level of extreme their life will unfold thereafter.
and in this interview, he didnt get to say what has happened up until now. this movie would have never made mainstream if it was distributed today. 2018
Well as a Vietnam veteran I'm sure he views violence differently he's seen people killed and killed people himself and what he says about love and redemption is not so different than the end of Platoon the Character after flying out of the jungle feels obligated to go on with his life even after being involved in that horror it's a part of him though. He said he was suicidal when he quit College and joined the army so did not care if he died there just happened he did not so now we get his perspective in films there are always critics some did not like the Doors either though that was non violent mostly and he probably listened to that group lots himself in the 60s. It's the host who lacks empathy to feel Olivers experience and how it influences his art.
@Edd 1 not necessarily in order. Snatch Gangs of New York Goodfellas Dumb and dumber NBK Casino Usual suspects True Romance Reservoir Dogs Fear and Loathing Las Vegas.Edd 1 what do you think. Any of these movies that you hate?
Mickey was my first crush when I was 10/11 years old. And yes. I have been to therapy bc of my psycopatic mentallity today :) (Im not sitting you haha )
Today, it's the former that Stone prophesied: reaching absurdly high proportions. We are saturated with surveillance, gossip, tabloid media. The internet essentially was nearly non-existent when this interview took place. Now that plus social media gives anyone the chance to broadcast themselves. Many topics are quite good and pedagogical. It's the select number of individuals who voluntarily broadcast nearly everything they do - here, on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and just about anywhere else they can(!) - that is completely outrageous. The movie "Network" was made 40 years ago and it's more relevant today than ever. Peter Finch's comment in the film sum it up: "This is mass madness, you maniacs! in God's name, you people are the real thing! WE are the illusion! So turn off your television sets! Turn them off and leave them off!"
i PICKED UP ON THAT IMMEDIATELY AS WELL. oops damn caps lock, sorry I wasn't shouting. It's far worse than Oliver could have ever imagined. Even the book "1984" is starting to look like an underestimation.
Well he even sounds like Mickey when he says look at nature we got bugs eating other bugs etc. "We got species killing other species our species killing ALL the species...". The Wolf don't know why he's a wolf. I'm sure Nam taught him people will do violent things they may have never expected themselves to do it depends on circumstances.
I just discovered this movie bullshitting around on IMDB. When I read the description I was hooked, and then I saw stone, Tarantino, and an amazing cast. But going on UA-cam to see what people thought about it seems the movie got shrouded in ridiculous controversy. I don’t understand why? The story is extremely important. Obsession with media, corruption, and an amazing social psychological analysis on nature v nurture. You can’t get a better movie than when it throws the audience under a microscope. Wish it had a better legacy, or at least some awards. Just goes to show the majority of the population still isn’t ready to look inside themselves
It is because the Columbine killers loved this movie, and also because everyone wanted Tarantino to direct it after we saw his later career. He wrote the original screenplay, and then a big studio bought it and gave it to Oliver Stone, who then modified it to the point of Tarantino only being credited for the "story". He also changed the overall feel. It wasn't originally supposed to be commentary on the media with a Bonnie and Clyde flavor for example. Also the movie is a little pretentious in many ways, it constantly shifts artistically (random slow-mo and black and white for artsy flair), at one point parodying sitcoms while depicting parental sexual abuse, it's just a bit much for many people.
even though tarantino wrote it, i think oliver stones maturity made him re write a lot of the script and pissed tarantino off, i think this guy is brilliant. absolutely love the movie.
Oliver along with his producer and another screenwriter changed the script to the point where Tarantino disowned it and the critics too believed the film was ghastly and obnoxiously violent. Being acquainted with Tarantino’s vision after 9 of his films I think it’s safe to say his original script just couldn’t have been shit.
1984 was also legendary: Ghostbusters, Terminator, Karate Kid, Gremlins, NeverEnding Story, Temple of Doom, Beverly Hills Cop, Footloose, This Is Spinal Tap, Romancing the Stone, Nightmare on Elm Street, Splash, The Natural, Red Dawn, Last Starfighter, Sixteen Candles, Top Secret, Purple Rain, Amadeus, Once Upon a Time in America, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, etc... Artists that had a #1 single or album in the US that year include Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, Paul McCartney, Phil Collins, Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Cyndi Lauper, Tina Turner, Hall & Oates, Van Halen, etc...
I turned fourteen that year and was attending Thomas Starr King Jr High near Hollywood. About 3 years later with my Older sister and her boyfriend and friends we drop acid and watch it at a friend's apt in the Old School building of the Jensen Apts in Echo Park.... The 90's in Echo Park and L.A are pure gold...... Never believe the Media Monster
i think he's trying say a lot of things at once, but one of those things is like, both mickey and malory's hate for humanity and love for each other and that indian were authentic, and through that love for each other and that indian, they were able to genuinely restore some of their love for humanity...or at least quell some of their hatred, where as us 'civilized' folk, our 'love' for each other is artificial, contrived, and that's why individually and institutionally we're so corrupt, cause you can't force people to be good, you either care about people or you don't...althou you can try, and maybe you can keep the wheels of society spinning for a while, but eventually everything collapses if it's based on pure bullshit no one really feels or believes in.
They are able to overcome the villains of the film, the media and the system which produced them. They were both raised in evil family environments and they watched violence and sex glorified on television, alongside the punishment of the criminals that are made into stars also being glorified. You see Scagnetti and the warden both envious of their popularity and want some for themselves, and they are both evil. Wayne uses these killers to elevate his own brand, but he is the lowest of the low. And love overcomes all of that. I've always seen this as a love story, and it's a great one.
VOLT14 Right on! I LOVE Oliver Stone films. Absolutely stellar director. Oliver Stone is a totally profound and deep human being. I don't have access to Charlie Rose programs but am very aware of his work. Does he put his opinions in most of his work? X x
JFK is a cool movie, but the thing kind of pissed me off about the movie. He add made up characters, I wish he would have stayed to the historic aspect of the case. But outside of that, good movie and Oliver Stone is one of my favorites.
Imagine, "The Fast and the Furious" as directed by Oliver Stone. This movie was very controversial when it came out. Casting Robert Downey Jr. Was one issue due to his reputation at that time. Thankfully, Oliver Stone gave him a chance and RDJ acted the hell out of that part. I watched this with my father and it was an experience. Up til then nothing like this movie was seen before. The context of the film and what it says about society is still spot on, that's why it was controversial. Oliver Stone is hands down one of the most underrated director of my generation. His style is almost a language in itself. Not every movie of his is a masterpiece, but even some "of his failures towered over other men's success."
I love how Oliver says Juliette Lewis's character goes through a change because of one of the murders. He doesn't want to be specific and ruin the movie. Charlie Rose, moron that he is, immediately blurts out the Indian!! Lol
Can't believe he's being talked to the way he was by the interviewer as if saying killers are glorified in our society is some shocking revelation. . all school shooters to date have their 15 minutes. . Especially the columbine killers who funnily enough natural born killers was their favourite movie.
Stone is a Vietnam veteran Platoon was semi autobiographical he knows about violence he's probably killed people there too so he's bold about politics and war and social issues etc. Very intelligent guy.
Oliver Stone is a visionary filmmaker, period. His style had never been seen before. And his ideas and point of view are always honest, smart and well-informed. And boy, does he has balls. As an artist and human being, always standing up for what he believes, does not matter if we like him or not. Im afraid we will never see a filmmaker like him again. A hero among directors. A filmmaker's filmmaker.
The interviewer embodies the idea behind RDJ's character. He's the front his ego wants to portray while unconsciously seeking the very things he publicly condones.
Salvador and Wall Street are probably my 2 favourite of his! Absolutely great films. He also wrote Scarface, Year of the Dragon, and Conan The Barbarian... the man is a genius!
This interviewer is so superficial. Natural born killers was a lot like the experiences you have on acid or big dose mushrooms. But the life review and randomness here are from the insides of two "crazy" killers' minds, it is really quite artistically brilliant. The movie delves into so many things that can damage minds The Fathers molestation and abuse, the mother a victim of abuse, knows and does nothing. Of course, the influence media had back then and so on. It's akin to a crazy Bonnie and Clyde on acid, and "LOVE" as the hero.
Romanticizing serial killers is a tradition as old as time and to this day people still do the same and Oliver Stone just hit the nail with how it was the portrail of mass media exploding tragedy and real life horror for entretainment, he's such a genius
oh i knew. twa800 was the red pill for us. we were all in my dorm room pointing at the screen at the fbi director LOOK HES LYING THE MOTHERFUCKER IS LYING! and then it ended in laughter when they showed that pathetic spark in the fuel tank excuse demonstration. RED PILLED. EVERYTHING CHANGED.
I love Oliver Stone's movies. They do show the reality in life. Love can and will kill the demon. His comment about we are all responsible is true. Even though Mickey and Mallory's parents were killed, ultimately, they share in the guilt of the death and carnage due to rage the children they cruelly and mindlessly abused.
In the first two minutes Oliver mentions OJ, the Menendez brothers, Nancy and Tonya, and Lorena Bobbett. That's "A Current Affair" crime in the early 90's right there.
It definitely went right over the heads of anyone who criticized it for simply being violent yet those same people say nothing about the violence enacted and supported by their own government
What’s kind of frustrating is Rose repeats the same question and Oliver gives a pretty honest answer that covers a lot of topics (the whole point of his movie: none of these things can exist independently, the corrupt each other). And Charlie Rose, good an interviewer as he was, just can’t seem to get it. He wants a very clean cut, sound bite answer that the movie is too complicated to warrant.
I missed out on so many great Charlie Rose interviews as a kid and teenager, later into my 20s, because that intro music was so terrible. Similar to how The Duran’s videos end. Thank you for getting this one uploaded 🙏🏼
At the 22:00 Stones mentions the exhileration of downey's character and murder. Divorce can lead to murder with the juice-oj, but If u dont murder and r tempted to do so there is a merit for restraint or restraining oneself not to be Cain. Who is the Restrainer? Who keeps us from being a killer? This is our struggle when faced with this kind of temptation- Turn the cheek show more power do nt u think?
Pretty obvious that as we moved into a post 2000 world we did reach those "absurdly new proportions" and we haven't looked back yet. A great movie, ahead of its time nonetheless.
Exactly , school shootings have got worse and more victims . Bowling for columbine and this are essential viewing for showing all that’s wrong with society and society doesn’t like what the mirror shows them and government quick to blame films and music for causing this violence . Films and music are merely a commentary on the dysfunction in society
The interviewer is horrible. It's like the whole explanation about the movie went over his head and he insists the DIRECTOR is wrong?? And you can tell Oliver Stone is so amused but how insistent and taken aback the interviewer is haha. Which I guess is the point to be interviewed and talk to people with difference perspectives.
Despite being a serial sexual harasser, Charlie Rose was usually great, but I agree that this was a bad interview. Rose almost seems aggressive, the way he bangs on the table when asking questions at points. I seriously wonder if he took NBK's indictment of the entire media class personally?
Amazing director I truly believe and agree when he says when you make a movie and you have done everything before do something different play with like editing, with ideas specially make some people mad you don't always have to please everyone you gotta poss off some people
Hi, I'm a student from England who's currently doing an essay about violence in film and I want to know if anyone knows who the interviewer is? Thanks :)
The couple was dysfunctional but you almost could not criticize them too much about it because the society was so dysfunctional too. What the media glorifies what they ignore was really made evident in the narration of the film. They seemed like monsters for killing Mallorys parents though they abused her terribly it was a sick society that bred sick characters yet they still were seeking love and redemption.
The movie had such a social commentary to it. The sex and violence was not like watching porn or a slasher film it was used in an intelligent way. I was Mallory Knox for Halloween one year she is one of my favourite characters from film and NBK was one of my favourite films.
Im wondering if the bandage on Oliver's right hand thumb is after the fight with Tarantino... hahahaha - Im also wondering, how it would have been this movie if he would have stick to the original Tarantino's script.
bztrd80 I bet it would've been somewhat entertaining and completely forgettable. Remember how many awful Tarantino knock offs there were in the 90s? I think Oliver Stone used that script to make an important film, and I'm glad for it- let Tarantino be Tarantino and let Stone be Stone, imo.
he dose make some very good observations about people and culture. can be abit of an agitator too, maybe its the french in him coming throught. likes to throw fire works about abit.
His comments at the 3 minute mark about the growing tendency of reveling in more and more extreme ugliness were way ahead of their time. He seemed to favor an optimistic view that it couldn't and wouldn't continue indefinitely. I definitely shared that opinion at the time. 26 years later....wow...it just sounds so quaint and naive.
And when he says come to a conclusion, I thought of 9/11 was like the consumption conclusion he was talking about. Everyone was glued to the TV when it happened to see the events unfolding on an immense scale and the news network probably profited off the coverage anyway
Tarentino didnt like the film despite writing it. To the point where he didnt want his name on it. I always liked it. But something like that has to make you wonder.
Its a movie with a lot of style. Tarentino is all over it. What about it was so off to him? I think it needed more of those big interesting dialog moments that Tarentino is known for. Less of the over the top violence and more vibe and pacing. It reminds of kill bill. Its all style. Where's the meat?
I usually enjoyed Charlie Rose's interview style, but in this one, he is acting really dense, and it seems deliberate. Time and time again, he asks Stone to explain the motivation and meaning behind the scenes being discussed, and every time, Stone answers him - but he refuses to get it.
This movie NBK is a very "disturbing" film (in a "good" way). It is too hard to hear any discussion as I am rattled deeply by some of the footage that appeared on my UA-cam channel that were not shown in the official film---the film is "over-the-top" but portrays a basic banality of evil that lurks everywhere. I'm just too inundated with the violence to hear any soft appraisal of how f-ed up the reality is behind this film (meaning that in a "good" review way).
Oh my god this dude DOES NOT GET IT. This is very comical because it's almost like they are doing a watered down version of the interview from the movie hahaha.
the era he's talking about were the best times.......doing obscene humour to make money and not because you appreciate it and boy bands/paris hilton destroyed it all
The studio bought the script from Tarantino then Stone and company butchered it. He demanded they remove his name from screenplay credit, which is why he is credited with the story only.
Love this interview. It gives a deeper understanding of the film which is deeply complex with meaning and ideas all around, filtered down to mass media formalism, a way of consuming spectacle, news and violence. The film is bonkers, satirical ("naturally born bad") and hard to watch.
the pure exhilaration of Wayne Gale is likened to the purity of love. so in essence all acts of violence and aggression are virtuous if love inspired. I don't think love is the saving grace here, I think it may actually be the scapegoat.
Jarod Johnson Wayne Gale was representative of tabloid television that glorifies the very violence it condemns..."you did it for ratings...you're scum Wayne that's why no one gives a shit about you". Then they kill him he is the last one and love beats the demon. Have you even seen the movie?
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The film is an absolute masterpiece. My senior thesis, this film was the core of it. Spanned 50 pages. But that was the 90's. Nowadays.....Ida been thrown in a mental hospital.
Its not controversey....
IT IS CALLED
TRUTH.
and they dont like it cause it exposes their THOUGHTS. it exposes their minds. The scars that each person bears throughout life, dictates how their life will unfold thereafter. The level of extreme, indicates the level of extreme their life will unfold thereafter.
and in this interview, he didnt get to say what has happened up until now. this movie would have never made mainstream if it was distributed today. 2018
hahahahahah my friends and i saw it FIVE FUCKING TIMES IN THE THEATERS. FIVE TIMES. the only other movie was 4 times jurassic1.
FIVE FUCKING TIMES.
Oliver Stone's honesty, measured tone and empathy around difficult issues is always inspiring.
Well as a Vietnam veteran I'm sure he views violence differently he's seen people killed and killed people himself and what he says about love and redemption is not so different than the end of Platoon the Character after flying out of the jungle feels obligated to go on with his life even after being involved in that horror it's a part of him though. He said he was suicidal when he quit College and joined the army so did not care if he died there just happened he did not so now we get his perspective in films there are always critics some did not like the Doors either though that was non violent mostly and he probably listened to that group lots himself in the 60s. It's the host who lacks empathy to feel Olivers experience and how it influences his art.
He has such an honest, good smile.
Yeah but he said two boys killed their parents and got away with it which is not true Eric and Lyle are still in jail...tragically.
Natural Born Killers is one of my all time favorite movies from the 90’s
Austin Taylor Rose
it's my all time favorite ☺️
@Edd 1 not necessarily in order.
Snatch
Gangs of New York
Goodfellas
Dumb and dumber
NBK
Casino
Usual suspects
True Romance
Reservoir Dogs
Fear and Loathing Las Vegas.Edd 1 what do you think. Any of these movies that you hate?
same here.
Mickey was my first crush when I was 10/11 years old. And yes. I have been to therapy bc of my psycopatic mentallity today :) (Im not sitting you haha )
"Mal! Cops! Go get the car, I'll go get the snake juice!"
Whoever restored this from the non-digital format it probably came from is my hero.
This hasn't been restored.
@James and @Mike I'm curious what makes one of you believe this is restored and one of you think it is not restored?
Well... It looks fucking great. Bravo
@@jameslathropphotography Thank the good folks at Wazee Digital: charlierose.com/about/about-new-charlie-rose-website
Thank you. There isn't a single video on this channel I didn't restore the video and audio of.
Today, it's the former that Stone prophesied: reaching absurdly high proportions. We are saturated with surveillance, gossip, tabloid media. The internet essentially was nearly non-existent when this interview took place. Now that plus social media gives anyone the chance to broadcast themselves. Many topics are quite good and pedagogical. It's the select number of individuals who voluntarily broadcast nearly everything they do - here, on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and just about anywhere else they can(!) - that is completely outrageous. The movie "Network" was made 40 years ago and it's more relevant today than ever. Peter Finch's comment in the film sum it up: "This is mass madness, you maniacs! in God's name, you people are the real thing! WE are the illusion! So turn off your television sets! Turn them off and leave them off!"
damn straight
i PICKED UP ON THAT IMMEDIATELY AS WELL. oops damn caps lock, sorry I wasn't shouting.
It's far worse than Oliver could have ever imagined. Even the book "1984" is starting to look like an underestimation.
King of Comedy is another good one that's probably more relevant today than the day it was made.
This is, like most of his films, a love it or hate it piece of art. He may not always be perfect but he's always an artist.
"What do you think?" Stone is inquisitive and a great listener.
same noticed that too
NBK is one of the greatest commentaries on the relationship between violence and popular culture of all time!
Well he even sounds like Mickey when he says look at nature we got bugs eating other bugs etc. "We got species killing other species our species killing ALL the species...". The Wolf don't know why he's a wolf. I'm sure Nam taught him people will do violent things they may have never expected themselves to do it depends on circumstances.
I just discovered this movie bullshitting around on IMDB. When I read the description I was hooked, and then I saw stone, Tarantino, and an amazing cast. But going on UA-cam to see what people thought about it seems the movie got shrouded in ridiculous controversy. I don’t understand why? The story is extremely important. Obsession with media, corruption, and an amazing social psychological analysis on nature v nurture. You can’t get a better movie than when it throws the audience under a microscope. Wish it had a better legacy, or at least some awards. Just goes to show the majority of the population still isn’t ready to look inside themselves
You couldn't have said it better
It showed also how American society is built and a lot of people didn't like that.
Yeah I think you've just found out that 85%+ of the population is dumb
I was in my 20's when it came out. Simply put it was a little bit ahead of it's time, and people weren't ready to grasp the reality of it.
It is because the Columbine killers loved this movie, and also because everyone wanted Tarantino to direct it after we saw his later career. He wrote the original screenplay, and then a big studio bought it and gave it to Oliver Stone, who then modified it to the point of Tarantino only being credited for the "story". He also changed the overall feel. It wasn't originally supposed to be commentary on the media with a Bonnie and Clyde flavor for example. Also the movie is a little pretentious in many ways, it constantly shifts artistically (random slow-mo and black and white for artsy flair), at one point parodying sitcoms while depicting parental sexual abuse, it's just a bit much for many people.
even though tarantino wrote it, i think oliver stones maturity made him re write a lot of the script and pissed tarantino off, i think this guy is brilliant. absolutely love the movie.
Tarantino's original script was the toilet paper that Oliver Stone used to wipe America's ass with.......
@@brianthedesertbum hey fuck you
@@andregarci1955 Yeah what he said
If there is one thing that Natural Born Killers does not have , it's maturity.
Oliver along with his producer and another screenwriter changed the script to the point where Tarantino disowned it and the critics too believed the film was ghastly and obnoxiously violent. Being acquainted with Tarantino’s vision after 9 of his films I think it’s safe to say his original script just couldn’t have been shit.
It's a movie that you can watch again and again and still read more into it....the casting was sheer brilliance as was the soundtrack.
3:46: "You live in this culture of surveillance...you live in gossip." Ouch! LOL, go, Oliver!
He's so open and direct when describing what he's trying to say with his movie.
1994, turned 17 years old. Music, movies and America was pure art. All at its peak
Jason Peter's The good ol 90s
The 70's and 90's were the greatest decades for film and music.
1984 was also legendary: Ghostbusters, Terminator, Karate Kid, Gremlins, NeverEnding Story, Temple of Doom, Beverly Hills Cop, Footloose, This Is Spinal Tap, Romancing the Stone, Nightmare on Elm Street, Splash, The Natural, Red Dawn, Last Starfighter, Sixteen Candles, Top Secret, Purple Rain, Amadeus, Once Upon a Time in America, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, etc...
Artists that had a #1 single or album in the US that year include Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, Paul McCartney, Phil Collins, Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Cyndi Lauper, Tina Turner, Hall & Oates, Van Halen, etc...
👆this
I turned fourteen that year and was attending Thomas Starr King Jr High near Hollywood. About 3 years later with my Older sister and her boyfriend and friends we drop acid and watch it at a friend's apt in the Old School building of the Jensen Apts in Echo Park.... The 90's in Echo Park and L.A are pure gold...... Never believe the Media Monster
i think he's trying say a lot of things at once, but one of those things is like, both mickey and malory's hate for humanity and love for each other and that indian were authentic, and through that love for each other and that indian, they were able to genuinely restore some of their love for humanity...or at least quell some of their hatred, where as us 'civilized' folk, our 'love' for each other is artificial, contrived, and that's why individually and institutionally we're so corrupt, cause you can't force people to be good, you either care about people or you don't...althou you can try, and maybe you can keep the wheels of society spinning for a while, but eventually everything collapses if it's based on pure bullshit no one really feels or believes in.
They were abuse victims it triggered something in them.
They are able to overcome the villains of the film, the media and the system which produced them. They were both raised in evil family environments and they watched violence and sex glorified on television, alongside the punishment of the criminals that are made into stars also being glorified.
You see Scagnetti and the warden both envious of their popularity and want some for themselves, and they are both evil. Wayne uses these killers to elevate his own brand, but he is the lowest of the low.
And love overcomes all of that. I've always seen this as a love story, and it's a great one.
People are scared of TRUTH
Jason Peter's are you a person?
Damn, Oliver Stone is a such a cool dude. Always collected and on point. Ma man
VOLT14 Right on! I LOVE Oliver Stone films. Absolutely stellar director. Oliver Stone is a totally profound and deep human being. I don't have access to Charlie Rose programs but am very aware of his work. Does he put his opinions in most of his work? X x
JFK is a cool movie, but the thing kind of pissed me off about the movie. He add made up characters, I wish he would have stayed to the historic aspect of the case. But outside of that, good movie and Oliver Stone is one of my favorites.
I love Oliver Stone because he truly makes Charlie Rose feel uncomfortable
Great comment
It was about time. :)
100%
I agree. The movie is a classic and one of my faves.
Natural born killers is a masterpiece
Yeah Tarantino is appreciated now but wasn't for this?
No it’s not lol
@@AnnaLVajda they pretty much re-wrote the entire script that’s why Tarantino can’t stand this movie
Imagine, "The Fast and the Furious" as directed by Oliver Stone.
This movie was very controversial when it came out. Casting Robert Downey Jr. Was one issue due to his reputation at that time. Thankfully, Oliver Stone gave him a chance and RDJ acted the hell out of that part.
I watched this with my father and it was an experience. Up til then nothing like this movie was seen before. The context of the film and what it says about society is still spot on, that's why it was controversial. Oliver Stone is hands down one of the most underrated director of my generation. His style is almost a language in itself. Not every movie of his is a masterpiece, but even some "of his failures towered over other men's success."
Pretty creepy to watch Natural Born Killers with your father… 👀👀👀
Oliver Stone directing Fast and Furious? He hates those movies lol
Downey Jr was fantastic in this film
Man the 90s was wild, and even people back then understood it so well
Stones a fucking genius. Great movie. Just bought the soundtrack on vinyl. 🙌
One of the greatest soundtracks of all time.
this interview was Waine Gale and Miky Knox
Mr Stone should run for President, He is a very levelheaded, intelligent and very wise man, and is veheamently anti-war.
I love how Oliver says Juliette Lewis's character goes through a change because of one of the murders. He doesn't want to be specific and ruin the movie. Charlie Rose, moron that he is, immediately blurts out the Indian!! Lol
Watching in 2020. This man is such a talent!
2022
Can't believe he's being talked to the way he was by the interviewer as if saying killers are glorified in our society is some shocking revelation. . all school shooters to date have their 15 minutes. . Especially the columbine killers who funnily enough natural born killers was their favourite movie.
Stone is a Vietnam veteran Platoon was semi autobiographical he knows about violence he's probably killed people there too so he's bold about politics and war and social issues etc. Very intelligent guy.
Oliver Stone is a visionary filmmaker, period. His style had never been seen before. And his ideas and point of view are always honest, smart and well-informed. And boy, does he has balls. As an artist and human being, always standing up for what he believes, does not matter if we like him or not. Im afraid we will never see a filmmaker like him again. A hero among directors. A filmmaker's filmmaker.
I used to watch this movie on lsd what a wild ride it is, it is like it was made for that like pink floyd the wall
Watched for first time now. And i had that thought. But i think it would be too much for me. Scott pilgrim was enough for me 😂
Wow Oliver stone was very right. Especially in 2017.
sadly 2017 was like a paradise in comparison to now, sadly.
@@yeetnama9094 2022 was amazing compared to now 🤣
The interviewer embodies the idea behind RDJ's character. He's the front his ego wants to portray while unconsciously seeking the very things he publicly condones.
well.. it's reached absurdly new proportions, that's for sure.
This interview is the most brilliant work Mr.stone has ever made!
its a great film but i think JKF is still better
Salvador and Wall Street are probably my 2 favourite of his! Absolutely great films. He also wrote Scarface, Year of the Dragon, and Conan The Barbarian... the man is a genius!
Shows how shallow the interviewer is. He doesn't grasp it.
This interviewer is so superficial.
Natural born killers was a lot like the experiences you have on acid or big dose mushrooms.
But the life review and randomness here are from the insides of two "crazy" killers' minds, it is really quite artistically brilliant.
The movie delves into so many things that can damage minds The Fathers molestation and abuse, the mother a victim of abuse, knows and does nothing.
Of course, the influence media had back then and so on.
It's akin to a crazy Bonnie and Clyde on acid, and "LOVE" as the hero.
Romanticizing serial killers is a tradition as old as time and to this day people still do the same and Oliver Stone just hit the nail with how it was the portrail of mass media exploding tragedy and real life horror for entretainment, he's such a genius
still on it on 2019
speaking from experience the 90s was a crazy time. We didn't know if the world was going to end or if it was going to survive another millennium.
I think I feel about the 90's the way my parents felt about the 60's... well, ok that's not exactly true. But yeah... I miss the fuck out of the 90's.
oh i knew. twa800 was the red pill for us. we were all in my dorm room pointing at the screen at the fbi director LOOK HES LYING THE MOTHERFUCKER IS LYING! and then it ended in laughter when they showed that pathetic spark in the fuel tank excuse demonstration.
RED PILLED. EVERYTHING CHANGED.
I love Oliver Stone's movies. They do show the reality in life. Love can and will kill the demon.
His comment about we are all responsible is true. Even though Mickey and Mallory's parents were killed, ultimately, they share in the guilt of the death and carnage due to rage the children they cruelly and mindlessly abused.
That was not the best movie from Stone but you need to have a balls to do make a movie such as Natural Born Killers.Respect Oliver
In the first two minutes Oliver mentions OJ, the Menendez brothers, Nancy and Tonya, and Lorena Bobbett. That's "A Current Affair" crime in the early 90's right there.
sounds so prophetic now in 2018
24:40 Charlie is so quick to take insult. It's sad.
It’s not an interview with Oliver stone without the interviewer undermining him and being stand-offish towards Stone
It definitely went right over the heads of anyone who criticized it for simply being violent yet those same people say nothing about the violence enacted and supported by their own government
Natural Born Killers IS ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED FILMS OF ALL TIME. Is a critic/satire to the whole society, financial and political system.
What’s kind of frustrating is Rose repeats the same question and Oliver gives a pretty honest answer that covers a lot of topics (the whole point of his movie: none of these things can exist independently, the corrupt each other). And Charlie Rose, good an interviewer as he was, just can’t seem to get it. He wants a very clean cut, sound bite answer that the movie is too complicated to warrant.
I find Oliver Stone fascinating, I could listen to him talk for hours and hours 🤩
Wow, so epic. This movie dropped 3 days before my Senior year in High School started.
I missed out on so many great Charlie Rose interviews as a kid and teenager, later into my 20s, because that intro music was so terrible. Similar to how The Duran’s videos end. Thank you for getting this one uploaded 🙏🏼
I love Oliver stone
At the 22:00 Stones mentions the exhileration of downey's character and murder. Divorce can lead to murder with the juice-oj, but If u dont murder and r tempted to do so there is a merit for restraint or restraining oneself not to be Cain. Who is the Restrainer? Who keeps us from being a killer? This is our struggle when faced with this kind of temptation- Turn the cheek show more power do nt u think?
Pretty obvious that as we moved into a post 2000 world we did reach those "absurdly new proportions" and we haven't looked back yet.
A great movie, ahead of its time nonetheless.
Exactly , school shootings have got worse and more victims . Bowling for columbine and this are essential viewing for showing all that’s wrong with society and society doesn’t like what the mirror shows them and government quick to blame films and music for causing this violence . Films and music are merely a commentary on the dysfunction in society
It's like this guy giving the interview
is a prosecutor
Carl Winkler Hahaha so true
It’s one the best fills from the 1990s
oh how much I don't like this interviewer
Lenya why
The interviewer is horrible. It's like the whole explanation about the movie went over his head and he insists the DIRECTOR is wrong?? And you can tell Oliver Stone is so amused but how insistent and taken aback the interviewer is haha. Which I guess is the point to be interviewed and talk to people with difference perspectives.
He just want to became a Director, not interviewer - that's why )
Despite being a serial sexual harasser, Charlie Rose was usually great, but I agree that this was a bad interview. Rose almost seems aggressive, the way he bangs on the table when asking questions at points. I seriously wonder if he took NBK's indictment of the entire media class personally?
Lenya he is so damn critical and his tone is so stern lol
Amazing director I truly believe and agree when he says when you make a movie and you have done everything before do something different play with like editing, with ideas specially make some people mad you don't always have to please everyone you gotta poss off some people
@3:17, "It's going to reach absurdly new proportions, or else it's going to die out". And thus entered.... 9/11.
Hey! Have you already seen the COWBOY a second time ?
I love Oliver stone's films. They are all so true
Hi, I'm a student from England who's currently doing an essay about violence in film and I want to know if anyone knows who the interviewer is? Thanks :)
Thanks for this! Great interview!
The couple was dysfunctional but you almost could not criticize them too much about it because the society was so dysfunctional too. What the media glorifies what they ignore was really made evident in the narration of the film. They seemed like monsters for killing Mallorys parents though they abused her terribly it was a sick society that bred sick characters yet they still were seeking love and redemption.
The movie had such a social commentary to it. The sex and violence was not like watching porn or a slasher film it was used in an intelligent way. I was Mallory Knox for Halloween one year she is one of my favourite characters from film and NBK was one of my favourite films.
He’s so reaching for a narrative to attack Stone and it’s so flimsy and lazy that Stone just counters it with obvious logic.
Charlies, as he states himself, is completely baffled. overwhelmeingly. 2023. 13:10-13:30 is PURE GOLD
Charlie Rose has a pretty obvious Southern Accent in this video- especially in the very beginning. I've never noticed that accent before.
I thought so too..."killas"😳 didn't realize he was southern.
Im wondering if the bandage on Oliver's right hand thumb is after the fight with Tarantino... hahahaha - Im also wondering, how it would have been this movie if he would have stick to the original Tarantino's script.
bztrd80 I bet it would've been somewhat entertaining and completely forgettable. Remember how many awful Tarantino knock offs there were in the 90s? I think Oliver Stone used that script to make an important film, and I'm glad for it- let Tarantino be Tarantino and let Stone be Stone, imo.
Shitty
"culture of surveillance" then he goes on to direct Snowden. He's just genius imo.
I really liked the last 5 minutes too about Buddhism self awareness stoicism etc.
Oliver Stone in all of the 1990's interviews he was bad ass back in the day lol 💓 💖 👍 😀
he dose make some very good observations about people and culture. can be abit of an agitator too, maybe its the french in him coming throught. likes to throw fire works about abit.
This guy is brilliant
"Politics is fashion."
- Oliver Stone
In the 80s the age of excess
90s age of mainstream media glamorization.
2020! Everyone's a Wayne Gale.
We all have potential for great evil and or great kindness, that is his point.
His comments at the 3 minute mark about the growing tendency of reveling in more and more extreme ugliness were way ahead of their time. He seemed to favor an optimistic view that it couldn't and wouldn't continue indefinitely. I definitely shared that opinion at the time. 26 years later....wow...it just sounds so quaint and naive.
And when he says come to a conclusion, I thought of 9/11 was like the consumption conclusion he was talking about. Everyone was glued to the TV when it happened to see the events unfolding on an immense scale and the news network probably profited off the coverage anyway
where are the Oliver Stones of today? I don't see them?
Impossible to get funding
"what do you think?" caught charlie off guard.
Whats the name of the interviewer?
Charlie Rose
@@Excremental_DischargeThanks
Tarentino didnt like the film despite writing it. To the point where he didnt want his name on it. I always liked it. But something like that has to make you wonder.
Its a movie with a lot of style. Tarentino is all over it. What about it was so off to him? I think it needed more of those big interesting dialog moments that Tarentino is known for. Less of the over the top violence and more vibe and pacing. It reminds of kill bill. Its all style. Where's the meat?
I usually enjoyed Charlie Rose's interview style, but in this one, he is acting really dense, and it seems deliberate.
Time and time again, he asks Stone to explain the motivation and meaning behind the scenes being discussed, and every time, Stone answers him - but he refuses to get it.
This movie NBK is a very "disturbing" film (in a "good" way). It is too hard to hear any discussion as I am rattled deeply by some of the footage that appeared on my UA-cam channel that were not shown in the official film---the film is "over-the-top" but portrays a basic banality of evil that lurks everywhere. I'm just too inundated with the violence to hear any soft appraisal of how f-ed up the reality is behind this film (meaning that in a "good" review way).
Member this guy wrote scarface which is another violent film but great script
Great script, brilliantly directed by De palma!
I think QT wrote natural born killers
Ijuarez 48 the original draft. Stone rewrote Tarantino, which is why QT wanted his name taken off the film.
Here he is before the Crime Bill and 2 million incarcerated people later
21:33 Did he just steal Charlie's water?
@12:54 ... ."... i think love will save the 20th Century !!!" I think we missed it and we will for the 21th if we continu like it.
Oliver Stone is a born filmmaker. Just like Spike Lee, Francis Ford Coppola, and Martin Scorsese. Spielberg is a joke
Pretty ironic how it was Charlie Rose who's career was ended over his years of sexual harassment behind the scenes!
Oh my god this dude DOES NOT GET IT. This is very comical because it's almost like they are doing a watered down version of the interview from the movie hahaha.
I feel that once you hand your script to a director it is his or hers to interprete,modify or do with it what they want.
It would’ve been crazy if he was able to get the financing to make the Noriega biopic with Al Pacino.
Obsession with violence is in anybody mind. 😢😢😢😢. Oh my god😮😮😮
the era he's talking about were the best times.......doing obscene humour to make money and not because you appreciate it and boy bands/paris hilton destroyed it all
Love how this mirrors MIckeys interview with Wayne.
Wayne Gale grasped "love beats the demon" more than Charlie Rose. Which is utterly embarrassing.
@@craighicksartwork on a macro level, love can not beat the demon , so it’s a pretentious statement
I only watched it because of oliver stone....Charlie rose is just a joke
And Here we are.
I strongly feel human stupidity from his movies.
Didn't Quentin Tarantino write the script to this movie?
MrApotator Yepp!
He was very dissatisfied with Stone's interpretation, and disowned the script.
The studio bought the script from Tarantino then Stone and company butchered it. He demanded they remove his name from screenplay credit, which is why he is credited with the story only.
Shawn Barlow Stone didn’t butcher it. I love Tarantino but he wasn’t mature enough to explore the themes Stone did at the time.
Love this interview. It gives a deeper understanding of the film which is deeply complex with meaning and ideas all around, filtered down to mass media formalism, a way of consuming spectacle, news and violence. The film is bonkers, satirical ("naturally born bad") and hard to watch.
the pure exhilaration of Wayne Gale is likened to the purity of love. so in essence all acts of violence and aggression are virtuous if love inspired. I don't think love is the saving grace here, I think it may actually be the scapegoat.
Jarod Johnson Wayne Gale was representative of tabloid television that glorifies the very violence it condemns..."you did it for ratings...you're scum Wayne that's why no one gives a shit about you". Then they kill him he is the last one and love beats the demon. Have you even seen the movie?