My first comment to any subscription, watching this video was great. When you had to blend the tracks you didn’t want to you had that “agh” feel look to you. I know how that is due to the passion for the music and what it does for us and what we wish for others to not only hear.....but feel. Much love for the video my brother....
As a dj for 17 years now, I will say that the only people who remotely cared about whether I mixed in key or not, were edm djs, and only a select number of them. My style of mixing is that I like to hear the changes and differences in music. The average listener actually gets bored with those sets that are mixed entirely in key. Yes, it is perfect mixing, but it sounds like one really long song, and I end up having to tell them, "No, that dj actually mixed like 30 songs". On the other hand, I recently added Pitch 'n Time to my Serato setup. I will do SOME mixing in key, but mostly, I just wanted another way to alter the tracks that I mix. Now for the video, it was quite informative. The first blend was perfect, and sounded like one song. The last blend, I could tell the difference, but again, that's my style. I did not find it to be a horrible clash at all.
Completely agree, it’s all depends on what your playing I play all kinds of music and my mixing style changes depending on what I’m playing but personally my favourite type of music to mix is jungle breakbeat hardcore, witch started in the uk in the early 90s and probably ended about 95 it’s my favourite type of music to play because there’s so much in it, it never gets boring, all ways different sounds, and as a dj you have the most creative freedom to cut scratch and use the samples and breaks to do as you please, when you mix it you don’t really think of things like key it’s just all about beat matching and whacking it in as quick as possible, and have fun with it were as 4x4 music such as house, trance, techno is more about key phrase and structure, check out Carl Cox’s all sets from about 91 to 93 he is insanely fast at mixing 3 turntables and the energy is out of this world skip to Carl Cox to day he plays more techno, and the way he mixes it is a lot slower, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing as I also play house techno and his new mixes are amazing two I’m just pointing out that different genres get mixed differently because it sounds better.
I’m currently trying to learn DJing off UA-cam but as a musician I completely agree that perfectly blending every song and mixing in key seems like a good way to kill the energy of a new song coming on.
I had to stop playing guitar, piano, and singing because I lost most of my hearing (I was a Marine antitank assaultman, big booms right off the shoulder for years) I had a horrible time with depression over this and focused on sculpting and painting. It helped and I was definitely happy but the music is still in my head. I just bought the Pioneer DDJ 400 and pouring through your videos. I have only a diamond view of the future. Thanks for these and cheers!
I'm a dj that learnt playing vinyl, we never knew if if tracks were in key as long as the two tracks sound good together and the beat matching is spot on
I was a DJ in the late 80's thru the 90's and to me there where 2 kinds of DJ's; Those who played a preset program/playlist and those who just read the room and played whatever worked on the current dance floor. I was the latter and i spent the first half of my [DJ] career aiming to become the first kind. To me it was a personal goal to be able to play a program of songs that i selected and liked ... and get gig's because people loved what i played, not because i played what they loved ... there is a difference. Eventually when I got booked because of _what_ i played i had more fun because i felt more like a performer and less like a jukebox. Ending a 1-2 hr set with a full dance floor and the sense of having performed well gave me more satisfaction than having a full dance floor for the same time. It's like the difference between a live band playing only covers or only their own music.
Bro, you are 100% right! If you don't give people something that they can enjoy, it doesn't matter if you match 100 songs perfectly in the set, you will end up playing only to yourself and no one will never notice you. Thanks for opening people's mind on that! 👊👊
My two cents to this, I never thought of this whole key topic to be honest, I focused back then when I learned on vinyl's to manage a proper transition rather than following keys or not. I was resident for several years in a popular club and we changed every night the styles several times. So basically it is a mixture of everything, perfect transitions and experiments to keep that surprise factor every night... I would have had no fun if I wouldn't have risked never a mix... because my best mixes or sets were based on guts and feeling, never rules. I guess the DJs out here will understand what I mean.
Appreciate your 2 cents homie but it definitely depends on the genres. mixing house music (Urban house) randomly without keys in place would cause chaos in the set whereas a surprise factor from time to time would give liberty to the Deejay to experiment things and add a flavor to his/her mix. On the other hand, hip hop is very spontaneous and its surprise element always excite the crowd no matter who the crowd is.
Been a DJ since '88. We didn't have any beatmatching buttons or ways to find out the key of a song. You just had to go with your instincts, and feeling of what you were playing, like Max H2 said. Hip hop is more forgiving, I think then say Edm. Drum and bass is more of a challenge. As far as mixing seamlessly. Taking the crowd to a height is what it's all about, I think we all can agree on that.
As a dj/producer yes mix in key as making tracks spend hours getting drums synths bass in key so will make your sets much better but I get what your saying at the end of the video but don't take long to use the wheel and you will get used to hearing what key a track is over time, you could tell straight away different keys before you mixed it,but I have been doing it a long time now but well worth the effort to learn mixing in key. I think so :)
I’m a independent House pop producer, and I have been booked for an event as a DJ from a local festival just because they here my songs on the radio. Now I never DJ before! I’m assembling my set and I’m getting so obsessed with mixing in key, perfect blending, perfect phrasing between tracks. That’s come from my insecurity and lack of experience at the same time my musicianship prevails as well.
Key mixing is a technique more utilized when recording the mix. Live shows, if the Dj is doing his job, will change on the fly depending on the crowd and their vibe. A clever DJ can hide things during awkward transitions. Not so much when recording. Also, learning which keys work well together will provide more options and will let you journey in and out of keys to keep things interesting but also keep them flowing well together. The thing is, there are no true set of rules when playing. There’s what sounds good and there’s what doesn’t. Find what works for you and hopefully, you’ll find a crowd who’s ears hear things the same way yours do and you’ve done it! Welcome to being a DJ.
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what you start telling at 9:30 is just so true.. its kinda good because it means that you dont have to worry that much about messing up but otherwise its sad becuase if you play "perfect" the people rather wont have a much better time than otherwise. But playing a perfect set is still so satisfying for myself that i am for sure totally trying to do so, more for myself than for the crowd.
LOL I'm almost 40, and I just bought my first deck. I am so happy to find this channel. Super essential for dummys like me ;) Thanks Mate! I will dig in next vids now.
Finally a DJ-talk who plays for a crowd and NOT for other DJ's;Your talk about being able to select great tracks gave me wings.I'm an upcoming Parisian Drag-DJ and the key word is making my crowd happy and dancing till they drop.Party.
The best advice I have ever gotten from a DJ coach..... your ability to entertain the crowd with your choice of songs and your ability to read the crowd 👌🏾
I was a DJ a long time ago (all vinyl) and I am now doing research because I am about to teach my daughter how to DJ, Whether she will mix in key or not, it is still very valuable information to know. Thanks.
haha, always take a backup, good djs dont hook up a computer to an event, take ur main usb memory and a back and you should be good, if your djing equip breaks halfway thru the event always have some mixes in your phone you can use as back up.
DJ Mega D. The advice to read a crowd is key. Pick your venue. Go there several times and just listen. Then use the vocals of the various songs to tell a story about love or loss or positivity and watch the crowd go nuts when you tell them that story with your mix 😉. They will love it. I use sampling of the key messages throughout the mix to tie the beginning, middle and end together like a comedian might do with various concepts. Even technical DJs will accept that when you do this, you wow the crowd and maybe even the promoter or club owner. You'll get invited back again. DJs sell drinks with banger hits strung together to tell a dance story. Love is made on the floor right in front of you. I've put couples together that even marry later and write to me about how the music made them realize what life is really about, what really lasts in this world, and that's love. For me, it's why I DJ.
i like your tips in the end of video , people don't care if you stop or mix different songs without same key , just you have to do a best selection and you become a good dj with more events , Thank you man
Your point at the end is correct. Most people doest care or doest even listen when the mix comes about. You can even put your phone with a UA-cam mix and do some homework for school or play video games on ur other tablet or phone. The most important and what people care is about a great sound, that is all people. That is what every dj should be worry bout their sound. Only live band groups or bands should worry about mixing or performance
I'm only starting as a DJ using a controller, but i've been in plenty of small, private party situations with friends and acquaintances where they put me in charge of the music because I have a broad genre taste and i kinda feel have a good feeling about what would get the people going at certain points, whether it be hyping up or winding down for some chill time. And i'm really glad to have seen this vid that reaffirmed me that party and good mood is what matters most rather than being the best at perfect transitions and whatnot (which i currently still suck at by my own opinion) :D so thanks for that man
How have I only just come across your videos!!! I’ve been dj’ing (bedroom/house parties/close family parties) for about a year now. I self taught myself from scratch so don’t know the ins and outs just know how to get a party going but i finally want to take it further ie bars & clubs so I asked around a few Reddit posts and your name came up over and over! I’m so glad I clicked!!! I’m watching ALL of your vids even if I feel I know that subject already. This one has actually been useful, you’ve backed up my thoughts that key aren’t always important if I’m catering for the audience and not other DJ’s. I’m sure I’ll be commenting on more of your videos as I get to them, but for now phil THANK YOU SO MUCH MATE 🤛🏾👍🏼🔊🔥
hi, my name is Martin from Germany and I just say thank you for your good channel/shool . I start after 20 years vinyl dj ing with controller and digital dj . I can say I evolve late but I get it . It is a great help to found your content . Greeting from Bochum,Germany Martin
I lean towards it not mattering as much... because.... ironically...if it sounds perfectly seamless, the audience does not notice and fully appreciate the mix as much as if they do when they can "tell" or hear a change coming. Sometimes, part of their fun is "predicting" what song is coming in next based on the sample/sound. But, I think it's amazing and I like the concept and will be more mindful of it myself.
I used to write the key of each vinyl record I had by playing a note in Cubase and matching it to the key of the track then organizing my records accordingly. Instead of the Camelot system, I organize by A, A#, B, BM, C, C# etc. then I figure out all the notes in the key of the track playing (you can Google this). D# minor for example will work with D♯, E♯, F♯, G♯, A♯, B, and C♯. This gives far more options to mix with than the Camelot system and still sound good.
When you mix only two songs it's not so imortant to do it in key but what I noticed is that when you do it with 3 or 4 it begin to make the diference and you can blend them for more long time. It works very well too if yo do +2 or +5. I've experienced incredible results on 3 tracks mixes doing like this: A 12A with a 7A and 2A alltogether or 3B + 8B + 1B... With trance, techno, minimal, deep or progressive house works very well and you can come to mixes with 3 tracks for 4, 5 or more minutes all three channels up that blows any mind. The only thing you've to take care is good channel EQ.
Adding a third and fourth track to a blend makes both beatmatching and key matching (manually) a lot trickier - a lot of people with 3-4 decks still focus primarily on a two track blend I find, with the third deck being used to bring in a third track to the blend as the first track is close to finishing, and the fourth deck being used to prepare and plan the next incoming tune for a 2-3 track blend, while the decks 1-3 are playing with deck 3 coming in and deck 1 going out. Playing 3-4 decks the entire time consistently can be really cool with music with more minimal elements to play with but with 'maximal' styles musics it takes a lot of skill/manipulation/planning to get it to sit well together in the mix. Then there's the gain structure complexity too by adding a third or fourth track to the blend/mix..
what u said is true..most important is u know your crowd.and make them dance and remember their old days,their fav music in the past years and all times..don't care about keys, i start djing with two cassette tapes and a cd player,but i can get my crowd dancing till 6 am..
Started djing this year and had couple of questions and confuses, but your channel I found Is the most interesting and easy to watch, and just very enjoyable. I live in Japan and all around music scene, but still felt Djs in Japan are missing some another vibe. Ppl were saying I have a very good music taste, so I just want to spread more vibes and unique and new theme of RnB and HipHop scene. Enjoying to do so. Never put attention to keys but after watching this vid I realized somehow I matched keys berywell by ear even without knowing what is that😂 Thank you!
Thank you for this. I picked up DJing about a year and a half ago and am trying to learn better as I go. I was told that mixing in key was the way to go but you settled it for me. In key mixing is difficult for me, I just wanna see the people having fun. I think that's what matters most.
Reading the crowd is something you have or do not have but that makes a top dj for me. Knowing your music and not playing what you like is also important for me. I would rather have a full dancefloor and music i dont like then an empty danceflor and music i love. I did notice the key and find the video Interesting and learned from it. THX Phil
Thats good you also showed how NOT to do & what that looks like. Knowing exactly what to look out for & what it sounds like so you can know instantly identify any issues. Having that direct reference is especially helpful if you're kinda tone deaf a little bit(which seems like a very large portion of the DJ population is haha). Had seen many "DJ tutorials" & there's A LOT of trash out there but this one is spot on. Hands down one of the best ones Ive seen so far. Straight & to the point, no BS, no clickbait-y teasing of content & claims like A LOT of these other channels do where you click on the vid only to find out they don't really cover what the title says & instead you have to pay to see WTF the title was really about. Good stuff
OMG yeah....totally agree song choice is really important and reading the crowd - thank god I'm good at this. As for Mixed Key - Im not too bothered all though I do use it, I am still learning what goes together and what clashes. Thanks for all the tips!
hello man , thank you so much im a Dj Torito from Morocco and no one here know about that key and i really appreciate that i learn it now , thank you so much men
All UK dj’s is the best dj! Ben Nicky was my one and only favourite Dj. Maybe u will be my best lecturer Sir! I love your advice. THANKS FROM MALAYSIA XX
Reading the room as a function DJ is crucial. Done small functions cheap for years as i love it decided to start proper mixing just to make it sound that bit better. Love the way you present in laymans terms we don't all want to be superstars just want to make sure people enjoy the music
My roommate just got a deck similar to yours and got me interested in DJing as well. I never thought there would be this much to it or that it could be as complicated as it is. When I first discovered key matching, it kind of freaked me out because I'm already struggling to find songs to mix together, let alone find songs of the same key. This video kind of helped me out because I don't care what other DJ's think of my work, I just want to have fun with it.
as a dj for many yrs b4 the mix in key era, i never had a complaint about my mixes...however,i am always open to learn, so i watched the vid and found useful info. but i dO agree that song selectioN is the main key TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
Frankly the clashing songs kind of contrasted each other very well. Mixing in key, in my opinion, is for when you want to relax the crowd and let them swing on the same vibe. As you mature as a musician (and I mean that as a singer songwriter) you learn that contrast "is key" in some instances, it´s like the exclamation mark to your sentence. So when I want to change the "mood" staying in key, may just not do the job for you. But _if_ you want to keep a good feeling in the crow, _if_ you want them to vibe on the same swing for a while, it is absolutely essential to understand _in key mixing_ .
For those trying to get what I am talking about with no Background in analog music (read instruments and singing), Sometimes it is "nice" to play in key, but it´s the "chords" and their "progression" that make music. I once spoke to one of the greatest DJs in Europe and he told me, that his secret was, that he was matching his playlist to, wait for it, *The Chord Progressions of Children Rhymesongs* no joke. The brain seems to connect the dots even if it happens slowly over time, and it gives a feeling of comfort and wellbeing. Try it out on your next set.
That's my mom in the pic..lol.I'm on her computer, I DJ'd in SF's underground dance music scene, and played vinyl. It was tough to be the only girl most of the time, all the other DJs were constantly trying to push me around put me down, and make me feel bad about DJing. But I played for my heart and for the people. I later got recognition for having the most popular mix in the early 2000s. There were so many "big" DJs that put out their mix to the crowd and gave away for promotions. I couldn't believe someone had put my mix up on a free file share DL site it got thousands of DLs. I played unusual music not like everyone else so it surprised me because I would've thought it would've been one of those big guys that would have a mix with 10thousand DLs, not little me. But It was the people's vote, on an underground music website, not the other DJs. I felt so bad for so long. Until I found that vote on my mix and saw the DLs. But you reminded me of what it's really about, having fun and your track selection and reading the crowd's energy. My worst experience had to have been when my DJ group brought in these really amazing DJs from overseas to play with us. I opened it for them, but the equipment failed because my CDJ started skipping the CD. It was my first time using CD instead of vinyl publically. It turned out the CDJ had to be taken in for repairs after that. It sounded horrible. Everyone was looking and stopped dancing, and I got the other track going on the other side quick but it took several painful seconds to load it up, and the MC who could've helped, just bashed me, saying "Ouch bad DJ here sorry". I started tearing up but pretended I didn't hear him and continued with a huge banger that everyone knew. I lived but felt terrible afterward. One of my friends later came up and said they loved my set! I think I almost fainted! It doesn't matter what those ego DJs say its the crowd that's important. Bless up, mate! Thx.
I am sooo glad I found your channel and watched most of your Videos... You are my Man Mate... 😅 You explain things so simple an easy to understand and also speak of the "True" of how things are in real DJ Life ... I have followed many of your advices and things are as you've described them exactly !!! Well thanks again and keep up the good work with these videos... 💪💪
It's a good tool to have and know but I don't stick with the rules 100%. I do some variations. The skip 2 and the skip 7. Skip 2 is going from like 8A to 10A (A minor to B minor...or from B minor down to A minor). Skip 7 is going from like 7A (D minor) to 2A (Eb minor). A half step up can raise the energy of the room and some tunes CAN mix like that if they start minimalistic (drum loop, etc.) Also, going from a minor key to a major key of the same letter can also work (example: D minor to D major) with some tracks.
Your channel and other YT videos have been insanely helpful... I've never even touched a DJ deck (Inpulse 500 on the way! Partly thanks to your review!), but thanks to these videos I already know every button on my controller, where to get tracks, what a beatgrid is and why it's important, where/why/how I should set cue points in the tracks I'm considering, a good hand full of transitions and some beginner friendly effects and so on. It's like I'm a properly trained beginner, yet to lay hands on a deck. Can't wait to try how hard it ACTUALLY is to put all that into practice! Thanks for taking the time and effort!
Where harmonic mixing falls apart without a lot of maths: You try to transition between 1B and 1A tracks at different tempos, the root/key of the pieces will end up being different if you change the pitch/tempo of one or both tracks to beatmatch. So a good ear or harmonic mind is infinitely more valuable than software 'telling you' two tracks should work together. Yes, if they are both the same BPM and the key analysis was correct and the track isn't polyphonic/polytonal/changing keys/progressive, you can utilise software to help you harmonicly mix. I personally find complex chords and dissonances to be the most unexpected and often beautiful combinations of tones so I try to go by what 'sounds best' in my head or ears. For example playing a track and I start thinking of another lead, bassline or vocal blending on top, or by trial and error attempting blends with various tunes you think could/should sound good together (and continuing to go through options until you find what you consider the 'best' sounding blend). I sadly don't have time to plan that far ahead the past years (where I would previously try to plan out at least half the blends/transitions between tracks in a mix if not more/all of it) but knowing your tracks well and being able to mentally recall the pitch to compare with other tracks in your head I think is the most important factor to carefree harmonic mixing.
Phil your doing a splendid job, even managed to make me laugh. Those 2 examples you did, one beat matched and the other out of beat match, my audience after 3 pints wouldn’t be able to tell if I was playing a trumpet or banging a drum. But I do get your point. And keep up your magnificent work. Phil
Greetings... thanks for ya works.. indeed very helpful and informativ... I have a Problem with my Mixed in Keys...i have followed all the instructions according to the Tutorials...but still cannot Transfer the cue Points to recordbox ...Mixed in Key cannot find the XML Location..!!! Can u be of Help? Q
I agree song selection to a crowd is most important, then beat matching, and transitions etc, but once those things are somewhat mastered, it’s definitely worth exploring mixing in key. Mixing becomes a joy (to you) again when you’ve realized you’ve mixed slightly out of key for years and you’ll never go back. You’ll rediscover tunes that you haven’t played for years, especially if you’re playing on a nice sound system. Punters do actually notice too, they don’t know why but you will stand out in a subtle way. Over 1 or 2 songs no, but over 2-3 hours, it sounds like a well put together polished mix and it is noticeable. Also if you’re thinking of using Serato Stems, learn how to mix in key first or you’ll be committing crimes against music one after another. All it takes is some minor re-organization and then it’s not hard at all. Out of key mixes make my ears bleed now, you won’t go back. Serato gets the key right about 80% of the time. After mixing in key for a while you’ll pick up an off key track straight away and you can just adjust it for next time there and then within Serato just by over typing it.
Everything you said..especially this ; "You’ll rediscover tunes that you haven’t played for years, especially if you’re playing on a nice sound system". Facts !!!
Really enjoyed that. I think when mixing in key can be really helpful is mixing complexity different / unorthodox genres together. They still need to fit somehow.
To me track selection (playlist) is more important on a set than being on key, if I can put some tracks together on key great, but if I can’t put them all on key and that means not playing awesome songs then I prefer not being on key, so a mix of mine usually will be a combination o tracks that are on and off key.
I agree with the comments where most of the time if you are just rocking a party that is what matters. One of the only times I pay attention to key is when doing the trick of going from a buildup in one EDM song to a drop of another. My opinion is that key can be critical in that situation. The other time I would use it is when doing a live mashup or quick switching drops.
For me, it was as I became more experienced, especially hearing myself on the bigger sound systems, I started really noticing that some mixes just DID NOT sound right. That was when I started caring about key matching. Not always though. It depends on the genre a lot too. I'd say if you're a beginner just focus on your beat matching, mixing and (agreeing with Phil) track selection to create the journey. Great video mate. You're a total champion.
Thank you Phil, I purchased this software and it DRAMATICALLY improved my mixes. I was mixing, what I thought went together and sounded great (IN MY HEAD), now, I have learned that I can have some AWESOME transitions; like the pro's.
Bro you are right. More over I would say the example (of two) where you said that the two tracks are not in key they sounded a bit fresher. The difference in keys brought some dissonance that I could hear and it gave me a feeling of smth new.
I do care about a perfect mix and about the mix in key, even if the audience doesn't notice, I do!! A big part of it is having fun myself !I liked the video specially the debate part.
Laidback Luke doesn’t mix in key. He mixes on element. IE similar snares, kicks , or synth leads. There are different styles, and as someone who most DJs consider borderline reckless (LL) and professional over 20 years. It gives testament to trusting your ears. Don’t focus so much on ensuring it’s absolutely perfect harmonic mixing (in key) But does it sound good together. That said, if you are stuck on what to play next.... looking at other tracks in the same key may get you out of a tight spot in a non prepared freestyle set
What's important is that whoever I'm playing for at any event. Them having a good time from my song selections. When they have a good or great time is the DNA of DJing.
Fantastic observations towards the end of the Vid. Im a crowd pleaser DJ of 11 years i dont care about been in Key but I want to take it on bored more. But your right about the fact people dont care about your mixes
DJing for me will always be about pure instinct and feel… maybe because I started out as a vinyl DJ in the mid 90’s… there were no visual cues, I didn’t have a clue what mixing in key was, there were no digital rekordbox or sync keys or screens to look at… it was about learning your genres, learning your tracks, practising every single day for hours on end, mixing by ear and picking up little feels and tricks along the journey… I DJ’d as I would want to listen to a set as someone on the dance floor… building a hype and doing some unusual things along the way, like completely dropping tracks in at the build up stage of another and making the crowd go woahhhh and bounce off the walls 😂 I feel like the DJ of today doesn’t have this maverick style in them anymore, it’s all too linear and straight… maybe more DJ’s should switch off the laptops, switch of the CDJ’s and plug a couple of Technics decks in for a few practise days a week and get some sort of purity back into the art form…
i loved this video because this is me, good song selection but not great at mixing just yet. Just bought my ddj. in february. Thanku so much for this, i feel better xx
im pretty sure it wasnt touched on in this video but if it was my bad. there is one other aspect of mixing in key. if you are familiar with your music there are situations where you can create chords between tracks. there are notes within the c major scale that harmonize well with the the d minor scale for example. so even if somethin is labeled as off key depending on the mode of the scale it sometimes turns out lovely as well. dont be afraid to check and see if things will work whle you practice
Oh i figured i more touched n it becuase I know when i was learning i kinda took tutorials as black and white and feared experimenting lol great stuff though this video earned you a sub from me for sure
Don’t be afraid to not give AF about creating chords to dissonant tracks or mixing in key or blending all DJ intro edits and not jumping around on the bpms ☝️
for riddim dubstep DJs, basically everything goes together except for some melodic exceptions (eg during intros) but drops are compatible like 99,9% of the time so don't worry much about that ;)
wow, thank you... i really enjoyed this video... I'm glad you have brought this to light and i have to admit that, i'm the type of dj that just to want to move the crowd!!!! And mixing in Keys is to me is like scratching its a tool if you know how to use it good!!! and if you don't know then its okay, just do what you can to move the crowd... LIke you mentioned at the end of the day it's all about music selection & knowing how to move the crowd...
Thanks mate,,have been using MIK since it came out and is great, but as you said it is all about picking the right tunes! Good vid Phil ,easy to follow and fun, well done!.
That was some very good info, and I will definitely keep what U offered in mind as I go forward. I had been hearing abt matching music with complimenting keys, but never really knew how important it was, and like U mentioned, unless ur playing for a group of DJs most ppl don't really care, all they want to do is hear good music and dance. Keep the vids coming, Thx
This was a great video. I've just begun DJing in key 3 months ago. Sonically, I can tell the difference and I hope I'm making smarter listeners in the process. I too believe song selection is the greatest skill DJ's need to have. You can be the dopest scratcher and beat juggler known to man, but if your song selection is trash than it doesn't matter.
awesome point...Next Level is Modutation, as bands do, to create that "up' or "'down" feel(emotion) with transition, as many commented below, as as to not kill energy with the long created song/set.,, instead use minor keys to majors or using harmonics to some extant. To the next, keys are relative to emotions , hence Am cord being one of the most widely used for feels of down..but major cords bring it up. Djs learning, check the feeling of the keys of your songs then work the path. Happy findings! Rules have to be learned before they can be broken, Right? Great Vid for starters..keep it going!
From a DJ who last used Denons back in the 90's cant agree more with your last comments. Read the room and your are the greatest DJ ever. You will always have your DJ corner critiquing your mixes but in the end its the punters who pay your wages.
So it’s like a color wheel that matches best with the key’s touching it’s sides!?! 🤗🥰👍 I’m not too surprised that some people don’t care if it transitions in the same key - but as a vocalist I appreciate this! It really suits my soul when someone takes the time to do so! ♥️♥️♥️
Question.. before there was mp3s and wavs, before all of this technology that shows keys, bpms, etc.. when you just had 2 technique 1200s, vinyl, a mixer and a mike.. did you mix in "key" by ear or were you more focused on beat matching to layer or mix the next song in?
Hey I completely agree with you that mixing in key is not necessarily the be-all and all of DJ performance. I think it’s useful in certain aspects especially when you’re warming up or you’re trying to build your room vibe but at the end of the day if you’re trying to entertain the crowd you need to keep them going to keep that energy level up that could be because you pick the right song over picking the right key. I like mixing in key When I’m recording my sets.
I totally agree about having a good selection of songs as opposed to dj skills. I still do try to try to learn the techniques though! This video was helpful thanks!
Hello I have hooked up my Serato to my google classroom and we do parties with the kids. Since alot of the music has to be filtered it's hard to get too into it. I feel I critique myself very hard although I give credit where it's due. My transitions are dope but I be wanting to get off of the bmp and go to the next one instead of feeling like we're in a box
Love this... Thanks for breaking this down. I have been mixing out of key, but after this I will be trying something new when I get behind the decks again.
I love watching your stuff just to help me refresh my old brain. I used to DJ for a living. I was never a phenomenal DJ, but I was pretty good. Good enough to get paid to do it. It's been a few years that I've been away and I love watching your videos because after so many years away, I just got a DJ controller for my new laptop and am (when it arrives tomorrow) about to re-immerse myself in the music. I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve thinking about my new gear arriving. anyway, thanks for your videos. Also, wondering what songs you were playing in the "is it in key or is it not?" bit at the end.
Great video and clear understanding of the game....... but it's sad to see we have a era of djs coming through who just loose effort and want to look good...... Sasha......digweed cosy would be mortified....... Djing is about mixing two songs together seamlessly.... Let's not loose our love for creating a mix as its not top of the pops on a Friday night... My part of the debate is spend time learning to mix as its about the mix and the tune not just the tune.. But amazing video and thanks so much for the understanding of mixing in key. Thank you so much
Couldn't fault anything you said. Rule 1 - Have fun. One thing I've learned to watch is when the owner/manager of the venue specifies a genre e.g. "Play R&B". Unless you're a mind reader you have to ask them to give examples (politely by asking of they have any specific requests). Often the examples are more Hip-Hop than R&B. "Play disco music" is another. For some people that conjures up 70's disco, for others it's DJs' remixes of 70s pop. For others it could be anything from contemporary pop to full-on techno. For others it anything you can dance to in a disco setting including upbeat country pop. DJ Mickey B Downunder
Practice, know your tunes and you wont need mixed in key, this is a modern day tool, DJ's who started mixing with vinyl never had anything like this, just practice. That is the KEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe everything has its taste if you know how to do it. I'm a musician and DJ and I have studied music harmony for years. I can tell you that the tension element takes the element of surprise to the next level. Any form of art relies on many factors surprise being one of them. lets not be like classical musicians which even though trained properly in my opinion can be boring as hell. Mixing out of key has its beauty if done right. Also you have the drop on the one technique to bring songs together without mixing them and of course using eco out to do that...Heeey let's say its not what you do but how you do it that makes the difference.
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Phil Harris question? if you change the pitch/tempo without the master tempo on does it change the key of the track?
GreatMoleBadger no it keeps the key the same :)
Phil Harris may I have the 1st 2 track id's please. Thanks
My first comment to any subscription, watching this video was great. When you had to blend the tracks you didn’t want to you had that “agh” feel look to you. I know how that is due to the passion for the music and what it does for us and what we wish for others to not only hear.....but feel. Much love for the video my brother....
Phil Harris . Cool video. Some one is allways listing.
2B or not 2B, that's the key question
HILARIOUS! 😂
Is to B3😂
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I see what you did there lol,,,,
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Its like this, you make regular people dance you're a great Dj, you make Djs dance and you're a headliner.
As a dj for 17 years now, I will say that the only people who remotely cared about whether I mixed in key or not, were edm djs, and only a select number of them. My style of mixing is that I like to hear the changes and differences in music. The average listener actually gets bored with those sets that are mixed entirely in key. Yes, it is perfect mixing, but it sounds like one really long song, and I end up having to tell them, "No, that dj actually mixed like 30 songs".
On the other hand, I recently added Pitch 'n Time to my Serato setup. I will do SOME mixing in key, but mostly, I just wanted another way to alter the tracks that I mix.
Now for the video, it was quite informative. The first blend was perfect, and sounded like one song. The last blend, I could tell the difference, but again, that's my style. I did not find it to be a horrible clash at all.
i never mix in key either. i just freestyle it and if i fuck up i fuck up lol
true
100% agree... there's no energy build or synergy with constant in key mixing.
Completely agree, it’s all depends on what your playing I play all kinds of music and my mixing style changes depending on what I’m playing but personally my favourite type of music to mix is jungle breakbeat hardcore, witch started in the uk in the early 90s and probably ended about 95 it’s my favourite type of music to play because there’s so much in it, it never gets boring, all ways different sounds, and as a dj you have the most creative freedom to cut scratch and use the samples and breaks to do as you please, when you mix it you don’t really think of things like key it’s just all about beat matching and whacking it in as quick as possible, and have fun with it were as 4x4 music such as house, trance, techno is more about key phrase and structure, check out Carl Cox’s all sets from about 91 to 93 he is insanely fast at mixing 3 turntables and the energy is out of this world skip to Carl Cox to day he plays more techno, and the way he mixes it is a lot slower, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing as I also play house techno and his new mixes are amazing two I’m just pointing out that different genres get mixed differently because it sounds better.
I’m currently trying to learn DJing off UA-cam but as a musician I completely agree that perfectly blending every song and mixing in key seems like a good way to kill the energy of a new song coming on.
I had to stop playing guitar, piano, and singing because I lost most of my hearing (I was a Marine antitank assaultman, big booms right off the shoulder for years) I had a horrible time with depression over this and focused on sculpting and painting. It helped and I was definitely happy but the music is still in my head. I just bought the Pioneer DDJ 400 and pouring through your videos. I have only a diamond view of the future. Thanks for these and cheers!
Keep doing what you enjoy! Let me know if you want any of my courses. I’ll give them to you free of charge. P
Phil Harris definitely! I’ve been pouring through every video I can find on UA-cam for months! I was actually considering buying your course!
There is hope for humanity after all. Cheers guys
I'm a dj that learnt playing vinyl, we never knew if if tracks were in key as long as the two tracks sound good together and the beat matching is spot on
I was a DJ in the late 80's thru the 90's and to me there where 2 kinds of DJ's; Those who played a preset program/playlist and those who just read the room and played whatever worked on the current dance floor. I was the latter and i spent the first half of my [DJ] career aiming to become the first kind.
To me it was a personal goal to be able to play a program of songs that i selected and liked ... and get gig's because people loved what i played, not because i played what they loved ... there is a difference.
Eventually when I got booked because of _what_ i played i had more fun because i felt more like a performer and less like a jukebox. Ending a 1-2 hr set with a full dance floor and the sense of having performed well gave me more satisfaction than having a full dance floor for the same time.
It's like the difference between a live band playing only covers or only their own music.
Phil, your humble character makes your tutorials a delight to learn from.
Bro, you are 100% right! If you don't give people something that they can enjoy, it doesn't matter if you match 100 songs perfectly in the set, you will end up playing only to yourself and no one will never notice you. Thanks for opening people's mind on that! 👊👊
My two cents to this, I never thought of this whole key topic to be honest, I focused back then when I learned on vinyl's to manage a proper transition rather than following keys or not. I was resident for several years in a popular club and we changed every night the styles several times. So basically it is a mixture of everything, perfect transitions and experiments to keep that surprise factor every night... I would have had no fun if I wouldn't have risked never a mix... because my best mixes or sets were based on guts and feeling, never rules. I guess the DJs out here will understand what I mean.
Appreciate your 2 cents homie but it definitely depends on the genres. mixing house music (Urban house) randomly without keys in place would cause chaos in the set whereas a surprise factor from time to time would give liberty to the Deejay to experiment things and add a flavor to his/her mix. On the other hand, hip hop is very spontaneous and its surprise element always excite the crowd no matter who the crowd is.
Been a DJ since '88. We didn't have any beatmatching buttons or ways to find out the key of a song. You just had to go with your instincts, and feeling of what you were playing, like Max H2 said. Hip hop is more forgiving, I think then say Edm. Drum and bass is more of a challenge. As far as mixing seamlessly. Taking the crowd to a height is what it's all about, I think we all can agree on that.
As a dj/producer yes mix in key as making tracks spend hours getting drums synths bass in key so will make your sets much better but I get what your saying at the end of the video but don't take long to use the wheel and you will get used to hearing what key a track is over time, you could tell straight away different keys before you mixed it,but I have been doing it a long time now but well worth the effort to learn mixing in key. I think so :)
I’m a independent House pop producer, and I have been booked for an event as a DJ from a local festival just because they here my songs on the radio. Now I never DJ before! I’m assembling my set and I’m getting so obsessed with mixing in key, perfect blending, perfect phrasing between tracks. That’s come from my insecurity and lack of experience at the same time my musicianship prevails as well.
Key mixing is a technique more utilized when recording the mix. Live shows, if the Dj is doing his job, will change on the fly depending on the crowd and their vibe. A clever DJ can hide things during awkward transitions. Not so much when recording.
Also, learning which keys work well together will provide more options and will let you journey in and out of keys to keep things interesting but also keep them flowing well together.
The thing is, there are no true set of rules when playing. There’s what sounds good and there’s what doesn’t. Find what works for you and hopefully, you’ll find a crowd who’s ears hear things the same way yours do and you’ve done it! Welcome to being a DJ.
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True..reading the crowd and playing memorial tracks pumps up the party...so the best tracks from hiphop,edm,oldskool, remixes,trap makes the dj..
what you start telling at 9:30 is just so true.. its kinda good because it means that you dont have to worry that much about messing up but otherwise its sad becuase if you play "perfect" the people rather wont have a much better time than otherwise. But playing a perfect set is still so satisfying for myself that i am for sure totally trying to do so, more for myself than for the crowd.
LOL I'm almost 40, and I just bought my first deck. I am so happy to find this channel. Super essential for dummys like me ;)
Thanks Mate! I will dig in next vids now.
Totally agree.. people can't see what's the difference they just wanna party.. reading the crowd is essential for me
This is the most simple in depth simple to understand video. Others just ramble on without any demo or explanation. Thank You.
Finally a DJ-talk who plays for a crowd and NOT for other DJ's;Your talk about being able to select great tracks gave me wings.I'm an upcoming Parisian Drag-DJ and the key word is making my crowd happy and dancing till they drop.Party.
The best advice I have ever gotten from a DJ coach..... your ability to entertain the crowd with your choice of songs and your ability to read the crowd 👌🏾
I was a DJ a long time ago (all vinyl) and I am now doing research because I am about to teach my daughter how to DJ, Whether she will mix in key or not, it is still very valuable information to know. Thanks.
One time i was djing and my computer died 20 minutes in so I had to just sing for the rest of the wedding
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haha, always take a backup, good djs dont hook up a computer to an event, take ur main usb memory and a back and you should be good, if your djing equip breaks halfway thru the event always have some mixes in your phone you can use as back up.
@@atomiq911 - yea, I've seen the consequences when a DJ casually says, my amp's died, fun's over, and walked off! 🤕
😂👌🏽atleast you pulled thru hahaha
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This is the most honest video about learning djing for starters that I have watched so far. And I ve watched quiet a few ^^
DJ Mega D. The advice to read a crowd is key. Pick your venue. Go there several times and just listen. Then use the vocals of the various songs to tell a story about love or loss or positivity and watch the crowd go nuts when you tell them that story with your mix 😉. They will love it. I use sampling of the key messages throughout the mix to tie the beginning, middle and end together like a comedian might do with various concepts. Even technical DJs will accept that when you do this, you wow the crowd and maybe even the promoter or club owner. You'll get invited back again. DJs sell drinks with banger hits strung together to tell a dance story. Love is made on the floor right in front of you. I've put couples together that even marry later and write to me about how the music made them realize what life is really about, what really lasts in this world, and that's love. For me, it's why I DJ.
i like your tips in the end of video , people don't care if you stop or mix different songs without same key , just you have to do a best selection and you become a good dj with more events , Thank you man
Your point at the end is correct. Most people doest care or doest even listen when the mix comes about. You can even put your phone with a UA-cam mix and do some homework for school or play video games on ur other tablet or phone. The most important and what people care is about a great sound, that is all people. That is what every dj should be worry bout their sound. Only live band groups or bands should worry about mixing or performance
I'm only starting as a DJ using a controller, but i've been in plenty of small, private party situations with friends and acquaintances where they put me in charge of the music because I have a broad genre taste and i kinda feel have a good feeling about what would get the people going at certain points, whether it be hyping up or winding down for some chill time. And i'm really glad to have seen this vid that reaffirmed me that party and good mood is what matters most rather than being the best at perfect transitions and whatnot (which i currently still suck at by my own opinion) :D so thanks for that man
How have I only just come across your videos!!! I’ve been dj’ing (bedroom/house parties/close family parties) for about a year now. I self taught myself from scratch so don’t know the ins and outs just know how to get a party going but i finally want to take it further ie bars & clubs so I asked around a few Reddit posts and your name came up over and over! I’m so glad I clicked!!! I’m watching ALL of your vids even if I feel I know that subject already. This one has actually been useful, you’ve backed up my thoughts that key aren’t always important if I’m catering for the audience and not other DJ’s.
I’m sure I’ll be commenting on more of your videos as I get to them, but for now phil THANK YOU SO MUCH MATE 🤛🏾👍🏼🔊🔥
Excellent video! You reminded me of what it's really about, having fun, your track selection and reading the crowd's energy. 🙏
hi, my name is Martin from Germany and I just say thank you for your good channel/shool . I start after 20 years vinyl dj ing with controller and digital dj .
I can say I evolve late but I get it . It is a great help to found your content .
Greeting from Bochum,Germany Martin
I lean towards it not mattering as much... because.... ironically...if it sounds perfectly seamless, the audience does not notice and fully appreciate the mix as much as if they do when they can "tell" or hear a change coming. Sometimes, part of their fun is "predicting" what song is coming in next based on the sample/sound. But, I think it's amazing and I like the concept and will be more mindful of it myself.
I used to write the key of each vinyl record I had by playing a note in Cubase and matching it to the key of the track then organizing my records accordingly. Instead of the Camelot system, I organize by A, A#, B, BM, C, C# etc. then I figure out all the notes in the key of the track playing (you can Google this). D# minor for example will work with D♯, E♯, F♯, G♯, A♯, B, and C♯. This gives far more options to mix with than the Camelot system and still sound good.
11:40-12:00 : Phil's Words of Wisdom and I utterly agree !
When you mix only two songs it's not so imortant to do it in key but what I noticed is that when you do it with 3 or 4 it begin to make the diference and you can blend them for more long time.
It works very well too if yo do +2 or +5. I've experienced incredible results on 3 tracks mixes doing like this: A 12A with a 7A and 2A alltogether or 3B + 8B + 1B...
With trance, techno, minimal, deep or progressive house works very well and you can come to mixes with 3 tracks for 4, 5 or more minutes all three channels up that blows any mind. The only thing you've to take care is good channel EQ.
Adding a third and fourth track to a blend makes both beatmatching and key matching (manually) a lot trickier - a lot of people with 3-4 decks still focus primarily on a two track blend I find, with the third deck being used to bring in a third track to the blend as the first track is close to finishing, and the fourth deck being used to prepare and plan the next incoming tune for a 2-3 track blend, while the decks 1-3 are playing with deck 3 coming in and deck 1 going out. Playing 3-4 decks the entire time consistently can be really cool with music with more minimal elements to play with but with 'maximal' styles musics it takes a lot of skill/manipulation/planning to get it to sit well together in the mix. Then there's the gain structure complexity too by adding a third or fourth track to the blend/mix..
what u said is true..most important is u know your crowd.and make them dance and remember their old days,their fav music in the past years and all times..don't care about keys, i start djing with two cassette tapes and a cd player,but i can get my crowd dancing till 6 am..
It's not about whether you should or not. It's about doing it predictably and getting the results you want. Thanks for the vid.
Started djing this year and had couple of questions and confuses, but your channel I found Is the most interesting and easy to watch, and just very enjoyable. I live in Japan and all around music scene, but still felt Djs in Japan are missing some another vibe. Ppl were saying I have a very good music taste, so I just want to spread more vibes and unique and new theme of RnB and HipHop scene. Enjoying to do so. Never put attention to keys but after watching this vid I realized somehow I matched keys berywell by ear even without knowing what is that😂
Thank you!
*@**11:26** I do this and go back to dancing **#facts*
Thank you for this. I picked up DJing about a year and a half ago and am trying to learn better as I go. I was told that mixing in key was the way to go but you settled it for me. In key mixing is difficult for me, I just wanna see the people having fun. I think that's what matters most.
Reading the crowd is something you have or do not have but that makes a top dj for me. Knowing your music and not playing what you like is also important for me. I would rather have a full dancefloor and music i dont like then an empty danceflor and music i love. I did notice the key and find the video Interesting and learned from it. THX Phil
Thats good you also showed how NOT to do & what that looks like. Knowing exactly what to look out for & what it sounds like so you can know instantly identify any issues. Having that direct reference is especially helpful if you're kinda tone deaf a little bit(which seems like a very large portion of the DJ population is haha). Had seen many "DJ tutorials" & there's A LOT of trash out there but this one is spot on. Hands down one of the best ones Ive seen so far. Straight & to the point, no BS, no clickbait-y teasing of content & claims like A LOT of these other channels do where you click on the vid only to find out they don't really cover what the title says & instead you have to pay to see WTF the title was really about. Good stuff
OMG yeah....totally agree song choice is really important and reading the crowd - thank god I'm good at this. As for Mixed Key - Im not too bothered all though I do use it, I am still learning what goes together and what clashes. Thanks for all the tips!
I could tell and I do care tbh, transitions matter so much to me and by choosing amazing tracks you can definitely have so much fun!
hello man , thank you so much
im a Dj Torito from Morocco and no one here know about that key and i really appreciate that i learn it now , thank you so much men
All UK dj’s is the best dj! Ben Nicky was my one and only favourite Dj. Maybe u will be my best lecturer Sir! I love your advice. THANKS FROM MALAYSIA XX
Reading the room as a function DJ is crucial. Done small functions cheap for years as i love it decided to start proper mixing just to make it sound that bit better. Love the way you present in laymans terms we don't all want to be superstars just want to make sure people enjoy the music
My roommate just got a deck similar to yours and got me interested in DJing as well. I never thought there would be this much to it or that it could be as complicated as it is. When I first discovered key matching, it kind of freaked me out because I'm already struggling to find songs to mix together, let alone find songs of the same key. This video kind of helped me out because I don't care what other DJ's think of my work, I just want to have fun with it.
Absolutely 💯% correct. Once the dance floor is poppin forget about key mixing and play good music.
as a dj for many yrs b4 the mix in key era, i never had a complaint about my mixes...however,i am always open to learn, so i watched the vid and found useful info. but i dO
agree that song selectioN
is the main key TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
Frankly the clashing songs kind of contrasted each other very well. Mixing in key, in my opinion, is for when you want to relax the crowd and let them swing on the same vibe. As you mature as a musician (and I mean that as a singer songwriter) you learn that contrast "is key" in some instances, it´s like the exclamation mark to your sentence. So when I want to change the "mood" staying in key, may just not do the job for you.
But _if_ you want to keep a good feeling in the crow, _if_ you want them to vibe on the same swing for a while, it is absolutely essential to understand _in key mixing_ .
For those trying to get what I am talking about with no Background in analog music (read instruments and singing), Sometimes it is "nice" to play in key, but it´s the "chords" and their "progression" that make music. I once spoke to one of the greatest DJs in Europe and he told me, that his secret was, that he was matching his playlist to, wait for it, *The Chord Progressions of Children Rhymesongs* no joke. The brain seems to connect the dots even if it happens slowly over time, and it gives a feeling of comfort and wellbeing.
Try it out on your next set.
That's my mom in the pic..lol.I'm on her computer, I DJ'd in SF's underground dance music scene, and played vinyl. It was tough to be the only girl most of the time, all the other DJs were constantly trying to push me around put me down, and make me feel bad about DJing. But I played for my heart and for the people. I later got recognition for having the most popular mix in the early 2000s. There were so many "big" DJs that put out their mix to the crowd and gave away for promotions. I couldn't believe someone had put my mix up on a free file share DL site it got thousands of DLs. I played unusual music not like everyone else so it surprised me because I would've thought it would've been one of those big guys that would have a mix with 10thousand DLs, not little me. But It was the people's vote, on an underground music website, not the other DJs. I felt so bad for so long. Until I found that vote on my mix and saw the DLs. But you reminded me of what it's really about, having fun and your track selection and reading the crowd's energy.
My worst experience had to have been when my DJ group brought in these really amazing DJs from overseas to play with us. I opened it for them, but the equipment failed because my CDJ started skipping the CD. It was my first time using CD instead of vinyl publically. It turned out the CDJ had to be taken in for repairs after that. It sounded horrible. Everyone was looking and stopped dancing, and I got the other track going on the other side quick but it took several painful seconds to load it up, and the MC who could've helped, just bashed me, saying "Ouch bad DJ here sorry". I started tearing up but pretended I didn't hear him and continued with a huge banger that everyone knew. I lived but felt terrible afterward. One of my friends later came up and said they loved my set! I think I almost fainted! It doesn't matter what those ego DJs say its the crowd that's important. Bless up, mate! Thx.
I am sooo glad I found your channel and watched most of your Videos... You are my Man Mate... 😅 You explain things so simple an easy to understand and also speak of the "True" of how things are in real DJ Life ... I have followed many of your advices and things are as you've described them exactly !!! Well thanks again and keep up the good work with these videos... 💪💪
I've been mixing harmonicly or in key since 1982. People didn't even hear of it back then.. It make you step above others.
It's a good tool to have and know but I don't stick with the rules 100%. I do some variations. The skip 2 and the skip 7. Skip 2 is going from like 8A to 10A (A minor to B minor...or from B minor down to A minor). Skip 7 is going from like 7A (D minor) to 2A (Eb minor). A half step up can raise the energy of the room and some tunes CAN mix like that if they start minimalistic (drum loop, etc.)
Also, going from a minor key to a major key of the same letter can also work (example: D minor to D major) with some tracks.
Your channel and other YT videos have been insanely helpful... I've never even touched a DJ deck (Inpulse 500 on the way! Partly thanks to your review!), but thanks to these videos I already know every button on my controller, where to get tracks, what a beatgrid is and why it's important, where/why/how I should set cue points in the tracks I'm considering, a good hand full of transitions and some beginner friendly effects and so on. It's like I'm a properly trained beginner, yet to lay hands on a deck. Can't wait to try how hard it ACTUALLY is to put all that into practice! Thanks for taking the time and effort!
Excellent advice... music selection for the right crowd at the right venue at the right time its the best key for success !!!
Thank you !
Where harmonic mixing falls apart without a lot of maths: You try to transition between 1B and 1A tracks at different tempos, the root/key of the pieces will end up being different if you change the pitch/tempo of one or both tracks to beatmatch. So a good ear or harmonic mind is infinitely more valuable than software 'telling you' two tracks should work together. Yes, if they are both the same BPM and the key analysis was correct and the track isn't polyphonic/polytonal/changing keys/progressive, you can utilise software to help you harmonicly mix. I personally find complex chords and dissonances to be the most unexpected and often beautiful combinations of tones so I try to go by what 'sounds best' in my head or ears. For example playing a track and I start thinking of another lead, bassline or vocal blending on top, or by trial and error attempting blends with various tunes you think could/should sound good together (and continuing to go through options until you find what you consider the 'best' sounding blend). I sadly don't have time to plan that far ahead the past years (where I would previously try to plan out at least half the blends/transitions between tracks in a mix if not more/all of it) but knowing your tracks well and being able to mentally recall the pitch to compare with other tracks in your head I think is the most important factor to carefree harmonic mixing.
Phil your doing a splendid job, even managed to make me laugh.
Those 2 examples you did, one beat matched and the other out of beat match, my audience after 3 pints wouldn’t be able to tell if I was playing a trumpet or banging a drum. But I do get your point.
And keep up your magnificent work.
Phil
Greetings... thanks for ya works.. indeed very helpful and informativ...
I have a Problem with my Mixed in Keys...i have followed all the instructions according to the Tutorials...but still cannot Transfer the cue Points to recordbox ...Mixed in Key cannot find the XML Location..!!!
Can u be of Help?
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I agree song selection to a crowd is most important, then beat matching, and transitions etc, but once those things are somewhat mastered, it’s definitely worth exploring mixing in key. Mixing becomes a joy (to you) again when you’ve realized you’ve mixed slightly out of key for years and you’ll never go back. You’ll rediscover tunes that you haven’t played for years, especially if you’re playing on a nice sound system. Punters do actually notice too, they don’t know why but you will stand out in a subtle way. Over 1 or 2 songs no, but over 2-3 hours, it sounds like a well put together polished mix and it is noticeable. Also if you’re thinking of using Serato Stems, learn how to mix in key first or you’ll be committing crimes against music one after another. All it takes is some minor re-organization and then it’s not hard at all. Out of key mixes make my ears bleed now, you won’t go back. Serato gets the key right about 80% of the time. After mixing in key for a while you’ll pick up an off key track straight away and you can just adjust it for next time there and then within Serato just by over typing it.
Everything you said..especially this ; "You’ll rediscover tunes that you haven’t played for years, especially if you’re playing on a nice sound system". Facts !!!
Really enjoyed that. I think when mixing in key can be really helpful is mixing complexity different / unorthodox genres together. They still need to fit somehow.
To me track selection (playlist) is more important on a set than being on key, if I can put some tracks together on key great, but if I can’t put them all on key and that means not playing awesome songs then I prefer not being on key, so a mix of mine usually will be a combination o tracks that are on and off key.
I agree with the comments where most of the time if you are just rocking a party that is what matters. One of the only times I pay attention to key is when doing the trick of going from a buildup in one EDM song to a drop of another. My opinion is that key can be critical in that situation. The other time I would use it is when doing a live mashup or quick switching drops.
For me, it was as I became more experienced, especially hearing myself on the bigger sound systems, I started really noticing that some mixes just DID NOT sound right. That was when I started caring about key matching. Not always though. It depends on the genre a lot too. I'd say if you're a beginner just focus on your beat matching, mixing and (agreeing with Phil) track selection to create the journey. Great video mate. You're a total champion.
Thank you Phil, I purchased this software and it DRAMATICALLY improved my mixes. I was mixing, what I thought went together and sounded great (IN MY HEAD), now, I have learned that I can have some AWESOME transitions; like the pro's.
Is mixed in key free?
Bro you are right. More over I would say the example (of two) where you said that the two tracks are not in key they sounded a bit fresher. The difference in keys brought some dissonance that I could hear and it gave me a feeling of smth new.
I do care about a perfect mix and about the mix in key, even if the audience doesn't notice, I do!! A big part of it is having fun myself !I liked the video specially the debate part.
Laidback Luke doesn’t mix in key. He mixes on element. IE similar snares, kicks , or synth leads. There are different styles, and as someone who most DJs consider borderline reckless (LL) and professional over 20 years. It gives testament to trusting your ears. Don’t focus so much on ensuring it’s absolutely perfect harmonic mixing (in key) But does it sound good together.
That said, if you are stuck on what to play next.... looking at other tracks in the same key may get you out of a tight spot in a non prepared freestyle set
the best advice so far on youtube :) you are right reding the crowd and making them dance is the KEY ;)
This is the first time I am hearing about keys and defenetly is going to help me alot on my mixes. Thanks for sharing you knowlege with us @philharris
Out of key tracks sounds like a 2 different tracks, but in key sounds like 1 song
What's important is that whoever I'm playing for at any event. Them having a good time from my song selections. When they have a good or great time is the DNA of DJing.
Fantastic observations towards the end of the Vid. Im a crowd pleaser DJ of 11 years i dont care about been in Key but I want to take it on bored more. But your right about the fact people dont care about your mixes
Hey Phil your videos are really helping me and I will be singing up to your course..
Thanks
Garry
DJing for me will always be about pure instinct and feel… maybe because I started out as a vinyl DJ in the mid 90’s… there were no visual cues, I didn’t have a clue what mixing in key was, there were no digital rekordbox or sync keys or screens to look at… it was about learning your genres, learning your tracks, practising every single day for hours on end, mixing by ear and picking up little feels and tricks along the journey… I DJ’d as I would want to listen to a set as someone on the dance floor… building a hype and doing some unusual things along the way, like completely dropping tracks in at the build up stage of another and making the crowd go woahhhh and bounce off the walls 😂 I feel like the DJ of today doesn’t have this maverick style in them anymore, it’s all too linear and straight… maybe more DJ’s should switch off the laptops, switch of the CDJ’s and plug a couple of Technics decks in for a few practise days a week and get some sort of purity back into the art form…
Thank you for your videos!!i am a beginner and I am learning a lot from you! Much love!!❤️❤️❤️🙌🏾
i loved this video because this is me, good song selection but not great at mixing just yet. Just bought my ddj. in february. Thanku so much for this, i feel better xx
Must say brilliant tutorials :) clear and concise and well explained.
im pretty sure it wasnt touched on in this video but if it was my bad. there is one other aspect of mixing in key. if you are familiar with your music there are situations where you can create chords between tracks. there are notes within the c major scale that harmonize well with the the d minor scale for example. so even if somethin is labeled as off key depending on the mode of the scale it sometimes turns out lovely as well. dont be afraid to check and see if things will work whle you practice
Hey, yes there are other keys that work well harmonically but I decided to not touch on this to keep the tutorial a bit simpler. :)
Oh i figured i more touched n it becuase I know when i was learning i kinda took tutorials as black and white and feared experimenting lol great stuff though this video earned you a sub from me for sure
Exactly. It's all about breaking the rules and experimenting for yourself and ultimately coming up with your own unique sound.
Don’t be afraid to not give AF about creating chords to dissonant tracks or mixing in key or blending all DJ intro edits and not jumping around on the bpms ☝️
How would you go about creating chords to switch it up?
for riddim dubstep DJs, basically everything goes together except for some melodic exceptions (eg during intros) but drops are compatible like 99,9% of the time so don't worry much about that ;)
wow, thank you... i really enjoyed this video... I'm glad you have brought this to light and i have to admit that, i'm the type of dj that just to want to move the crowd!!!! And mixing in Keys is to me is like scratching its a tool if you know how to use it good!!! and if you don't know then its okay, just do what you can to move the crowd... LIke you mentioned at the end of the day it's all about music selection & knowing how to move the crowd...
Thanks mate,,have been using MIK since it came out and is great, but as you said it is all about picking the right tunes! Good vid Phil ,easy to follow and fun, well done!.
That was some very good info, and I will definitely keep what U offered in mind as I go forward. I had been hearing abt matching music with complimenting keys, but never really knew how important it was, and like U mentioned, unless ur playing for a group of DJs most ppl don't really care, all they want to do is hear good music and dance. Keep the vids coming, Thx
I agree, in my opinion the best time on the dance floor is a great music selection by far!
This was a great video. I've just begun DJing in key 3 months ago. Sonically, I can tell the difference and I hope I'm making smarter listeners in the process. I too believe song selection is the greatest skill DJ's need to have. You can be the dopest scratcher and beat juggler known to man, but if your song selection is trash than it doesn't matter.
awesome point...Next Level is Modutation, as bands do, to create that "up' or "'down" feel(emotion) with transition, as many commented below, as as to not kill energy with the long created song/set.,, instead use minor keys to majors or using harmonics to some extant. To the next, keys are relative to emotions , hence Am cord being one of the most widely used for feels of down..but major cords bring it up. Djs learning, check the feeling of the keys of your songs then work the path. Happy findings!
Rules have to be learned before they can be broken, Right? Great Vid for starters..keep it going!
From a DJ who last used Denons back in the 90's cant agree more with your last comments. Read the room and your are the greatest DJ ever. You will always have your DJ corner critiquing your mixes but in the end its the punters who pay your wages.
So it’s like a color wheel that matches best with the key’s touching it’s sides!?! 🤗🥰👍
I’m not too surprised that some people don’t care if it transitions in the same key - but as a vocalist I appreciate this! It really suits my soul when someone takes the time to do so! ♥️♥️♥️
No. It's the major scale and the 4 , 5 and 6 keys mix
Are you not familiar with the major scale or the wheel of 5ths?
Question.. before there was mp3s and wavs, before all of this technology that shows keys, bpms, etc.. when you just had 2 technique 1200s, vinyl, a mixer and a mike.. did you mix in "key" by ear or were you more focused on beat matching to layer or mix the next song in?
Hey I completely agree with you that mixing in key is not necessarily the be-all and all of DJ performance. I think it’s useful in certain aspects especially when you’re warming up or you’re trying to build your room vibe but at the end of the day if you’re trying to entertain the crowd you need to keep them going to keep that energy level up that could be because you pick the right song over picking the right key. I like mixing in key When I’m recording my sets.
I totally agree about having a good selection of songs as opposed to dj skills. I still do try to try to learn the techniques though! This video was helpful thanks!
this was very very useful advice for me. not only you put my mind at ease I learned a whole lot. thank you
Hello I have hooked up my Serato to my google classroom and we do parties with the kids. Since alot of the music has to be filtered it's hard to get too into it. I feel I critique myself very hard although I give credit where it's due. My transitions are dope but I be wanting to get off of the bmp and go to the next one instead of feeling like we're in a box
Love this... Thanks for breaking this down. I have been mixing out of key, but after this I will be trying something new when I get behind the decks again.
I love watching your stuff just to help me refresh my old brain. I used to DJ for a living. I was never a phenomenal DJ, but I was pretty good. Good enough to get paid to do it. It's been a few years that I've been away and I love watching your videos because after so many years away, I just got a DJ controller for my new laptop and am (when it arrives tomorrow) about to re-immerse myself in the music. I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve thinking about my new gear arriving. anyway, thanks for your videos. Also, wondering what songs you were playing in the "is it in key or is it not?" bit at the end.
I don't think it was. I think I say in the video tho! Glad the vids have helped!
If there are completely different keys like 7A and 2B, then how to make them sound perfect??
Great video and clear understanding of the game....... but it's sad to see we have a era of djs coming through who just loose effort and want to look good...... Sasha......digweed cosy would be mortified.......
Djing is about mixing two songs together seamlessly....
Let's not loose our love for creating a mix as its not top of the pops on a Friday night...
My part of the debate is spend time learning to mix as its about the mix and the tune not just the tune..
But amazing video and thanks so much for the understanding of mixing in key.
Thank you so much
Couldn't fault anything you said.
Rule 1 - Have fun.
One thing I've learned to watch is when the owner/manager of the venue specifies a genre e.g. "Play R&B". Unless you're a mind reader you have to ask them to give examples (politely by asking of they have any specific requests). Often the examples are more Hip-Hop than R&B.
"Play disco music" is another. For some people that conjures up 70's disco, for others it's DJs' remixes of 70s pop. For others it could be anything from contemporary pop to full-on techno. For others it anything you can dance to in a disco setting including upbeat country pop.
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Practice, know your tunes and you wont need mixed in key, this is a modern day tool, DJ's who started mixing with vinyl never had anything like this, just practice. That is the KEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe everything has its taste if you know how to do it. I'm a musician and DJ and I have studied music harmony for years. I can tell you that the tension element takes the element of surprise to the next level. Any form of art relies on many factors surprise being one of them. lets not be like classical musicians which even though trained properly in my opinion can be boring as hell. Mixing out of key has its beauty if done right. Also you have the drop on the one technique to bring songs together without mixing them and of course using eco out to do that...Heeey let's say its not what you do but how you do it that makes the difference.