just purchased a new 84fs today and really love it. I like Berettas grip angle and ambidextrous features. and with the modern solid copper lehigh +P rounds I don't feel any less gunned than when I'm carrying the 92FS compact.
I always loved the look of these pistols because they are miniature versions of the big Model 92. However - now-a-days it is easy to find a bigger caliber gun such as a 9, 40, or 45 in the same size gun or smaller.
When you get to a pistol this size in a 380.acp ( or similar caliber), may as well go for the 84FS...5 more rounds thats basically the same size. Nice video folks, Happy Holidays, MIKE.
I watched your review ot the Marlin 45-70, and asked if you were in Alaska. I guess not. I see the rain and I know where you are. I've seen MANY days just like this!
I have an 84 FS- shoots great groups at 21+ feet and never has malfunctioned even right out of the box. It's not meant to be a target pistol at 25 yards, but it will do it. It is a PD/HD defensive weapon. Still hits a human size paper target down range ( which is the term for shooting in front of you at any distance). I agree the action is tight as hell. Quality there. All metal on metal semi autos need to limber up a bit in the first 300 rounds or so. Keep them well lubricated during the break in. Militec lubricant is the best in my opinion.
The M85F. Is a excellent pistol. It is not really a pocket pistol. But is a good purse or car gun. With the accuracy and reliability. It would be a excellent choice.
I have been attracted to these .380 Italian Berettas for a while- I have hesitated buying one for two reasons- First, the very high price of 380 ammo- It doesn't make sense, but I can purchase 9mm ammo for much less money- The other reason- I get a lot more stopping power if I buy a 9mm pistol.--But these are very cool looking pistols-
You have now experienced more abuse than that tree did when it was alive. You ever get the feeling that some people have waaaay to much time on their hands? Anyway, I appreciate your continuing excellent analysis and demos. You told me what I wanted to know, the trigger gets better than the DA. Thanks for your good work.
Sir, I hear you. Based on our location I choose the safe backstop of a partically burnt fir tree. It's based has been exposed to fire and much of the rest f the tree was dying. Thanks for your comments.
I have an 84 fs cheetah. what i dont like about it is RACKING THE SLIDE is tough for me. It's difficult to get a grip with my thumb and forefinger. i also have the wood grips and my hand is sore after shooting a few boxes of ammo. I wouldn't recommed this gun for ladies as a CCW or for your first pistol. there is also a little trick you have to do to get the take down level back up when reattaching the barrel.
I have the 84 fs as well and I would not recommend it. All your negative issues are correct. These review videos are just blowing smoke. A "recoil" operated 9mm will actually be softer shooting than the 84's straight blow back design.
I picked up a Model 85 recently and am looking for someone to cut a dovetail into the front of the slide so I can change it to LPA adjustable fiber optic sights. Anyone had this done yet?
I just recently acquired a 1967 Beretta 380. The prior owner decided to remove the rust on the weapon by immersing it in third grade vinegar. Can you give me some suggestions as to how to proceed from here? There is a little more rest, and as you can imagine, it will need to be blues again. Thank you for all your suggestions in advance
pinkiewerewolf The slide on this is quite stiff and there is less purchase to get a good grip, compared to other guns. It may loosen up after several hundred rounds (just bought one, so hoping that is the case) Probably not going to be easy for your gal to do.
pinkiewerewolf From what I have read, it will loosen up after about 500 rds. I will be taking mine to the range soon and will see, over time. I also had a Sig P238 - great gun and may be a better choice for her.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. I've heard the P238 racks pretty easily and that for a smaller firearm the recoil isn't too bad for her. I put lighter springs on the P380 and she still has issues but a lot of those would go away if she put more time into practice... but I'm not going to push her any faster than she is willing to go.
love my cheetah......super tigger.....super short reset........and super accurate once you get used to the front sight. Nope......this should not be your first pistol.....nor your self defense pistol (that would be your glock). This is you classy, having fun pistol. Mine is still super tight......and the slide is really tight.......this has a narrow grip.....the 84fs is a little more comfortable to me, but I wanted this single stack version
I hate GLOCKS because of the Metal safety device in the center of the trigger that strikes your trigger finger after every shot. However, I like other brands of guns with the same safety device in the trigger - such as the Springfield Armory brand of pistols - because the safety device is wider and doesn't hurt the finger.
now, tell me how is this double action / single action thing. You say you will transend into the single action? I thought a gun was either ''double action'' or ''single action'' meaning, if a gun is ''double action'' it can both fire with pulling the hammer back by using the trigger, or it can also be fired by pulling the hammer back with the finger, on a loaded chamber and it will fire. Clearly a gun that you HAVE to pull the hammer back to fire is a single action, meaning there is ONLY one way to fire the gun. But what do I know ?
Norse Man thanks for commenting . DA semi autos have the first shot in DA. The trigger pull cocks and drops the hammer . On the first shot it’s DA but once the slide cycles the next shot in in SA. Meaning the trigger is only performing the act of dropping the hammer. Unless the gun is SAO (1911) or DAO ( some semis are set up that way). Best, and stay safe!
Haywood Buchheit that part is an annoyance I never could figure why that was added on to these guns the 92fs dosent have it also these don't have a decocking function
as if that tree didn't have enough problems already! My Goodness, atleast have the decency to shoot the sob with a bigger caliber designed for its size!
Tom D my point was if you were to run a chainsaw blade through a tree filled with lead and copper bullets it will most likely damage or at least dull the blade.
Hey DB that's a revenue for hard working men, do you do rip corn out of the ground... hey there's a lot of corn. Not to mention when the tree is harvested that they use a chainsaw with a chain going at 70 mph then to hit a round some piece of shit put there from shooting a tree. If you are a peasant and cant afford a target stand and shoot into a safe back stop don't shoot!
just purchased a new 84fs today and really love it. I like Berettas grip angle and ambidextrous features. and with the modern solid copper lehigh +P rounds I don't feel any less gunned than when I'm carrying the 92FS compact.
This is an outstanding firearm, I bought one from classic firearms for 399.99 used and I love it.
Love the beretta 85F in 380
You're a good shot. I love my 85FS also and can't believe what they are currently selling for.
Well done video, I appreciate this very much - thank you. Now you've got me thinking about buying one of these...
S Patterson perhaps if someone where stuck in a phantasm movie lol
I always loved the look of these pistols because they are miniature versions of the big Model 92. However - now-a-days it is easy to find a bigger caliber gun such as a 9, 40, or 45 in the same size gun or smaller.
Great gun. Excellent video!!!
When you get to a pistol this size in a 380.acp ( or similar caliber), may as well go for the 84FS...5 more rounds thats basically the same size. Nice video folks, Happy Holidays, MIKE.
Michael McGee the grip is thinner on 85
Hardly thinner. Not much of a difference handling them back to back. The 84FS is by all means a really slim weapon.
I watched your review ot the Marlin 45-70, and asked if you were in Alaska. I guess not. I see the rain and I know where you are. I've seen MANY days just like this!
Good video, love my Beretta 85F!
Good choice!
I have an 84 FS- shoots great groups at 21+ feet and never has malfunctioned even right out of the box. It's not meant to be a target pistol at 25 yards, but it will do it. It is a PD/HD defensive weapon. Still hits a human size paper target down range ( which is the term for shooting in front of you at any distance). I agree the action is tight as hell. Quality there. All metal on metal semi autos need to limber up a bit in the first 300 rounds or so. Keep them well lubricated during the break in. Militec lubricant is the best in my opinion.
Great pistol, I agree, but it's not a steel gun as stated at 1:40; the frame is an aluminum alloy. Beautiful location, btw.
The M85F. Is a excellent pistol. It is not really a pocket pistol. But is a good purse or car gun. With the accuracy and reliability. It would be a excellent choice.
Thanks, I think I'll give this gun a look
thanks again for this review... Got a like new one coming! "Happy New Year" to you and yours ';-)
Its easy to see how smooth this pistol fires ! 😁🖒✌🇺🇸
This is a lovely pistol!
GREAT Review... I believe that this just may be the perfect CCW for my wife! "Merry Christmas" +1 day ';-)
for you too!
NOW I KNOW WHAT KIND OF 380 TO GET. I WAS THINKING ABOUT A 380 HIGH POINT UNTIL I SEEN THIS
This is a wonderful .380.
Very nice video and very good feedback, really appreciate your work, suscribed here! Be safe!
Nice video
Love...James
I have been attracted to these .380 Italian Berettas for a while- I have hesitated buying one for two reasons- First, the very high price of 380 ammo- It doesn't make sense, but I can purchase 9mm ammo for much less money- The other reason- I get a lot more stopping power if I buy a 9mm pistol.--But these are very cool looking pistols-
Very true. Get em while they're hot. these have been discontinued. A good Carry gun.
It's harder to carry and conceal the 92fs/m9 which is the 9mm version. This little 85 is little more reasonable
It seems to really throw that brass!
You have now experienced more abuse than that tree did when it was alive. You ever get the feeling that some people have waaaay to much time on their hands? Anyway, I appreciate your continuing excellent analysis and demos. You told me what I wanted to know, the trigger gets better than the DA. Thanks for your good work.
+Bill Higgins Thanks for watching and commenting.
Agree with +Bill Higgins. Seems everyone on the Interweb is an expert and a critic, at least in their own minds. Good video. Thanks for posting.
Chulada de pistola
Is the sig 238 380. Better?
ahww your killin that big old growth tree
Dead tree... half burned down
Sir, I hear you. Based on our location I choose the safe backstop of a partically burnt fir tree. It's based has been exposed to fire and much of the rest f the tree was dying. Thanks for your comments.
best .380 ever.
It's a lovely pistol
I have an 84 fs cheetah. what i dont like about it is RACKING THE SLIDE is tough for me. It's difficult to get a grip with my thumb and forefinger.
i also have the wood grips and my hand is sore after shooting a few boxes of ammo.
I wouldn't recommed this gun for ladies as a CCW or for your first pistol.
there is also a little trick you have to do to get the take down level back up when reattaching the barrel.
I have the 84 fs as well and I would not recommend it. All your negative issues are correct. These review videos are just blowing smoke. A "recoil" operated 9mm will actually be softer shooting than the 84's straight blow back design.
@@John_Malloy Thanks for your nice comment and added insight into the 84fs. Best Wishes!
Ya working on vacation??? Pretty country. Reminds me of NH!!
j pulizzano
I picked up a Model 85 recently and am looking for someone to cut a dovetail into the front of the slide so I can change it to LPA adjustable fiber optic sights. Anyone had this done yet?
Sounds like a good plan!
Have you shot a 1934 Bertta .380? It has too much recoil. I am hoping that the 85 would be much better in terms of recoil.
I just recently acquired a 1967 Beretta 380. The prior owner decided to remove the rust on the weapon by immersing it in third grade vinegar. Can you give me some suggestions as to how to proceed from here? There is a little more rest, and as you can imagine, it will need to be blues again. Thank you for all your suggestions in advance
See a qualified gun smith. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you'll subscribe.
Is it just me, or do I hear that trumpet sound again
no shit you have a decent group, you're fucking 5 feet away
Yeah...that's "down range"...
+TheJarhead133 yeah..i like how he says "downrange'.....BIG FING DEAL........
Is this too big for pocket carry
Is the grip thinner than the 13 round model?
yes
+francis arsenic Thank you
Can you imagine if they produced these fine pistols in .40 S&W. You'd have one fine personal defense pistol !
Is this the model that’s shoots 9mm short ammo as well
.380 *is* 9mm short.
How stiff is the slide? I'm looking for a pistol for my gal with small hands and not a lot of grip strength.
pinkiewerewolf The slide on this is quite stiff and there is less purchase to get a good grip, compared to other guns. It may loosen up after several hundred rounds (just bought one, so hoping that is the case) Probably not going to be easy for your gal to do.
Dude Labowskee thanks for the info. I'm going to have to look fir another Ca Compliant alternative.
pinkiewerewolf From what I have read, it will loosen up after about 500 rds. I will be taking mine to the range soon and will see, over time. I also had a Sig P238 - great gun and may be a better choice for her.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. I've heard the P238 racks pretty easily and that for a smaller firearm the recoil isn't too bad for her.
I put lighter springs on the P380 and she still has issues but a lot of those would go away if she put more time into practice... but I'm not going to push her any faster than she is willing to go.
pinkiewerewolf I've put 200 rds through mine and both the slide and the magazines are noticeably easier to rack/load, respectively.
Could you review browning 1911-.380
+Aaron Ross If I can get one I'd be happy to!
+aaron ross try looking up hickock45. He has reviews on most guns, inclufing
That poor tree.
how much does it cost?
Kimpo 1000 Around $650
Dude Labowskee nope....$399 at Classic Firearms
If your going to get a pistol this size might as well get a 9mm. Lightly loaded 9mm is very controllable and cheaper
love my cheetah......super tigger.....super short reset........and super accurate once you get used to the front sight. Nope......this should not be your first pistol.....nor your self defense pistol (that would be your glock). This is you classy, having fun pistol. Mine is still super tight......and the slide is really tight.......this has a narrow grip.....the 84fs is a little more comfortable to me, but I wanted this single stack version
I hate GLOCKS because of the Metal safety device in the center of the trigger that strikes your trigger finger after every shot. However, I like other brands of guns with the same safety device in the trigger - such as the Springfield Armory brand of pistols - because the safety device is wider and doesn't hurt the finger.
now, tell me how is this double action / single action thing. You say you will transend into the single action? I thought a gun was either ''double action'' or ''single action'' meaning, if a gun is ''double action'' it can both fire with pulling the hammer back by using the trigger, or it can also be fired by pulling the hammer back with the finger, on a loaded chamber and it will fire. Clearly a gun that you HAVE to pull the hammer back to fire is a single action, meaning there is ONLY one way to fire the gun. But what do I know ?
Norse Man thanks for commenting . DA semi autos have the first shot in DA. The trigger pull cocks and drops the hammer . On the first shot it’s DA but once the slide cycles the next shot in in SA. Meaning the trigger is only performing the act of dropping the hammer. Unless the gun is SAO (1911) or DAO ( some semis are set up that way). Best, and stay safe!
I like it, but the mag disconnect is a deal breaker for me.
Haywood Buchheit that part is an annoyance I never could figure why that was added on to these guns the 92fs dosent have it also these don't have a decocking function
as if that tree didn't have enough problems already! My Goodness, atleast have the decency to shoot the sob with a bigger caliber designed for its size!
Excuse my ignorance but is it safe to be shooting into a hollowed out tree trunk like that?
I traded mine brand new in 1987 for a Winchester .270 bolt rifle. Dumbest thing I've ever done.
Ouch!
In Oregon it’s considered Spiking when shooting into a tree. Hazardous to a logger with a chainsaw, this guy should know this.
dan kuettel not if its on your own property numbnuts
I pity the fool that takes a chainsaw to that tree one day.
A thick tree will stop a .44 mag or 30-06 or anything else.
Tom D my point was if you were to run a chainsaw blade through a tree filled with lead and copper bullets it will most likely damage or at least dull the blade.
Good things its on private property, aye asshat?
Hgh
The people complaining about trees are nuts. Shoot any tree you want. We have lots of trees.
Hey DB that's a revenue for hard working men, do you do rip corn out of the ground... hey there's a lot of corn. Not to mention when the tree is harvested that they use a chainsaw with a chain going at 70 mph then to hit a round some piece of shit put there from shooting a tree. If you are a peasant and cant afford a target stand and shoot into a safe back stop don't shoot!
Down range lol thats funny run off the people that are cutting down the trees
They were in the opposite direction.