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WRX Crossover? Family SUV gets the Subaru turbo treatment! 2023 Subaru Outback XT review
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- For some of us, spending $5000 more to get a more powerful engine makes sense. For others, it doesn't.
You're going to have to decide which camp you fall into, but the Subaru Outback XT turbo models are going to set you back $5000 more if you want them. And there's nothing different in terms of specification, so you're just spending a holiday's worth of cash for some power and torque.
You'll see -- I did the $/Nm calculations in the review -- but there is more to it in terms of ownership costs. The turbo is a guts when it comes to fuel consumption, but amazingly is a little more affordable to maintain when it comes to servicing.
So, which will it be? Tell me your thoughts in the comments!
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00:00 Intro
00:32 Is it the right price?
01:38 What's the best competitor?
02:50 Is it the right size?
04:03 Interior
07:34 Under the bonnet
08:33 Driving
11:49 Efficiency
12:40 Is it safe?
13:44 Ownership
14:26 Verdict
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Great review, thanks Matt. I am about to retire, and I’ve decided on the Touring XT because it represents the best bang for buck on the market right now for me. The mid-range power is really important to me because it makes the experience more relaxed and if you want to hustle along a bit, you can do that too. Subaru dealers seem to focus on customer care, which is super important to me as well. Love the autumn green colour!
My Touring XT gets delivered in July. Great choice. I'm coming from a 3.6.
Good one mate. I hope this is a great retirement gift to yourself!
I got mine two weeks ago and it's a lovely, comfortable car. The seats are great on a long drive and the car has a safe premium feel with plenty of power where you want it. The CVT is fantastic; very smooth with power delivery, making a great combination with the turbo charged engine. I came out of a 200 series landcruiser, and I'm very happy.
Awesome! That’s a big change.
Considering the same swap too! Have you found the outback to have enough luggage space? What's the real world fuel economy like as an owner?
Nice to see an honest review especially in regards to the to engine models. Most reviewers judge a car on outright speed. If it's fast it's amazing 🤦🏻
I am not those guys.
5000 extra bickies was definitely worth it, absolute joy to drive.
I’d love an Iced Vovo.
Worth 5k everyday of the week. I just purchased one, had it one week…. Very quite at Hwy speed. So far I have averaged 8.5L/100 over the first 320km
Any urban driving in that mix?
@@therightcar about 100km with 220km being dual lane highway….but the engine is just running in with under 500km on the clock (I’m talking it easy also as I run it in over the first 1000km)
Fair. Good to be gentle to kick off with!
The best value wagon in Australia. So versatile and comfortable across many terrains. Considering most Australians drive 90% of our time on tar the Outback still manage masters luxury offroad when needed.
As for the turbo its glorious and provides the power you need to keep you going and get you out if trouble on roads at times.
The main negative everyone always brings up is fuel consumption compared to other brands however when filling the tank its such a minor difference. The extra cost is worth it.
Still made in Japan and still remains a high quality build.
Boot space is pretty average
Love your style Matt. Good to listen to, good information and good ways to unpack and compare that information.
I do like your spin on things in these reviews and another informative review on this Suby. I just noticed how easily you deliver the commentary, no ums ahs, just an easy conversational delivery as if just a chat (well guess a one sided chat lol). You have previously mentioned merch? Where can that cap or black T be gotten?
Thanks so much. I’ve been told by several camera operators that “I know how to talk”. Haha! Glad you’re enjoying my take on things!!
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thanks mate - done!@@therightcar
I’ve slept three nights in the boot of my brand new XT while camping, was the third time I drove it. It’s a bit shallower than I’d have preferred (I’m a 5’4” female) but it’s doable 👌 insulation was fantastic so I didn’t freeze. It also beautifully handled the mild off-roading conditions and shallow creek we drove through to get to the campsite. Especially for such a long car.
Okay maybe I should have tried sleeping in it
@@therightcar I said it’s “doable” not that it’s amazing 😉😆 when you add some cushioning underneath you for comfort (as I did), the roof gets noticeably lower. It’s plenty long enough tho and definitely fine for a night or two. I probably wouldn’t recommend anyone with claustrophobia do it though 😅
😂😂😂
Thanks Matt - as mentioned in previous reviews I’ve owned 10 Subarus with three of them turbos WRX, Outback and Forester - the Outback was in name only not in nature though even for a ‘96 model it was very upmarket inside and very comfortable in all road conditions - I tried steep forest tracks but due to its long nose and tail kept ‘digging’ into the terrain so I changed this for the Forester with the much better approach angles which was even better after fitting a Subaru bullbar - generally I found the normally aspirated engines quite capable and reliable even when trekking to Karijini Nat Park and Mt Tom Price WA - the extra cost for turbos now including high premium fuel prices and CVT in all models is a deal-breaker for me but I still own a ‘06 Forester with no head gasket issues even after 320000 kms.
Thanks for the comment mate. Subie through and through!
I chose the XT because I love that effortless power for load,hills and overtaking - some will appreciate the extra 400 kG of towing capability @ 2400. I did test the 2.5 and yes, agree that if its just for town, no worries. Good review - thanks 👍😎
Good choice! Thank you for your thoughts.
Thanks Mat great review looking at purchasing shortly subaru outback touring xt v what else should i consider didnt want to go diesel and do you know when the Mazda CX60 is due out thanks Mark
I bought the Touring XT in October 2023 and I love it. On a long run it showed 7.8 per 100 km. Around 11 on short surban runs which was about what my original V6 Rav4 did. In my opinion, a great car.
I have the XT and I love it. The power and driving manners are impeccable. The car is simply a joy to drive.
Nice! Glad you love it.
I thought back on this video over the months since and realised that if I were financing it and the payments were like, $20 a week more, I’d get the turbo. 🤗
have had my outback limited xt now for just over a month. can honestly say the extra for the turbo was worth it. feel like their is actual power when I hit the pedal down, the acceleration also feels really nice and fluid. its a quiet smooth ride also which was surprising with how strong the engine feels. can honestly cut corners alot better then I thought it would as well. its hard to find something about this car that I dont like.
So glad you’re happy with the money spent mate. I have thought about it a lot since this video was published - and for the cost of a takeaway cup of coffee per day for five years… well, it adds up. But like coffee, maybe it’s make me feel just a bit more alive! 😅
Not sure about owning a turbo. For e.g. does the engine area get hotter, oils break down sooner, hoses don't last anywhere near as long. what downsides have you experienced?
After owning 3 Subarus (noting there is probably some confirmation bias) the best thing about them is they’re good (if not great) at everything. An all rounder.
Good point. I’ve owned five.
I have one and I’m getting fuel consumption under 10 and I have a permanent Thule box.
I came from a hilux and it’s more efficient and cheaper to fuel given the cost of diesel.
It’s also miles better to drive and takes everything I need to camp.
This is not a vehicle you buy to drive to the shops. It’s a people and object hauler for those who want to get away camping or haul stuff to activities like cycling.
On that basis it’s the best station wagon out there by far.
Fair call. You’re doing well to get that consumption, but you’re clearly not doing what the majority of large SUV owners do!
You must be idling everywhere.
@@brentonl1746 I drive 60 percent freeway. If you do short trips less that day 10 minutes with a cold engine it drinks the fuel. I don’t drive it like I stole it.
people take it to the shops as well
Thanks Matt, again you came up with a different opinion out of this review where most of the other channels said Turbo is the one to have . But the topic of spending 5000 on something else is debatable. I mean 'extra' or irrelevant spending is there almost everywhere. Why people buying 4x4 for school duties and city driving. Could have saved thousands compared to a regular suv 😊.
I hear you mate. I’m just coming at it from a realist perspective. If you financed the car and the extra was $20 a week or whatever, maybe it would not matter. But if you we’re buying outright, it’s a big extra outlay.
As always Matt, Great Balanced Review !
Thanks!
Great review! New channel? Subscribed!
Yep! New channel, and thank you!!
I needed a compact crossover SUV. After a thorough research and multiple test drives I opted for the Subaru Outback compact crossover SUV. Other options were RAV4, CR-V, Mazda CX5/50 to name a few. I did not need a turbo. The 2.5L model is pretty good.
Yep, stacks up! You’re in USA? I wish we got CX-50 here!
@@therightcar Yes. The CX-50 is a nice car but the Outback is a more comfortable crossover and it rides better.
Good review, thanks. Got the current model sport with the standard engine and do all my driving on the open road, and like you I’m thinking it has enough choof. Open road fuel economy is only marginally worse than the forester diesel I had before. Still mulling the XT for a replacement, liking the diesel-like torque, the lower noise level at speed and the longer service interval, not so much the fuel cost premium. My main reason for upgrading to touring spec is the water resistant seats in the Sport. They’re sweat resistant as well, with uncomfortable results in a Queensland summer, despite the air con. Thanks for keeping my feet on the ground with your review.
Love this. Thank you for commenting!!
How are the speakers on these? I don’t need hk or bose, I just need it to be decent, not sound like a transistor radio.
Mat, great video... I just purchased the Outback Limited XT in the US. I really wanted the moon roof, which it comes with. If I had ordered the non-turbo version, then opted for the moon roof, the cost difference was just a little over 2000.00. Which for me, isn't really enough savings, to skip on the XT. A little nervous on what the ultimate gas mileage I will get... but it has to be better than my Grand Cherokee... at 15 miles per gallon.
Great feedback and weird spec issue, but I’m glad you’re happy with your new Subie!
If i was retiring and looking for a last lap touring vehicle id get one with a alloy bar and spot light mounted over a traditional 4x4 ie prado, pajero and mux etc
It would be a helluva lot more comfy.
I sat in a touring model the other day. The leather seat is nice but the thigh extension in the base of the driver’s side makes the seat quite uncomfortable to sit on/in. Why did they do that? So not necessary. Why is no one talking about that?
got the 50th anniversary model . love the turbo. im an old petrol head . this is the most comfortable car to drive.
Good on you mate!
Nice review, Matt. It's only money. I would buy the Turbo in the Touring Model XT with napper leather as i can't stand vinyl seats. It's a shame the Forester hasn't got the Turbo. The only downside is CVT.
Only money!? You clearly don’t make UA-cam videos for a living…!
Haha joking. I get paid writing for CarExpert and GoAuto, too.
I’m very happy with my touring 2.5 litre non-turbo, has enough get up and go for me and extremely comfortable. I personally don’t need the turbo option.
Thanks for agreeing with me, Graeme! 😂
Hey Matt, what's the chance of a comparison video of the WRX TS wagon vs the XT Outback? You had a long term loan of the WRX wagon right? How does the ride compare as the WRX has the adaptive dampers and adjustable settings for steering, suspension etc? What is the boot size like, as in length with seats folded down etc? Which do you prefer? I'm trying to decide between them and there's aspects of both I like
Love the logo on the tshirt and cap and thanks for a great review. How would you compare this to the wrx sportswagon?
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I think the WRX is a far more sporty car in its driving feel, and I personally liked it more because the motor feels like a better fit there. But I’m not much for camping, so it figured I’d like the “Sunday drive” version of the theme.
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Great review without any BS. I'm looking at this video on the 28th Feb 2024. do you know when the new model comes out.
Thanks for that!
I don’t know if there will be any spec changes for the 2024 model year, apart from the potential addition of a new Wilderness spec. If it comes out, I’ll review it.
I absolutely love my Forester. Had it 8 months and it has almost all the features of the Outback but only cost $46k for the top model
This is the point I was making, hey? 👌👌
@@therightcarit’s so good. Took it off-roading on the beach, it floated over the sand and all the stuck Hiluxs. Also a great point is the community, the Subaru clubs around the country are great and really welcoming.
Yeah Subie people are good people, in my experience. (Have owned 5!)
5K is money well spent here. You get the turbo, but you also get HD suspension in the bum and upgraded driveline to deal with the 2.4T towing capacity.
A fair take!
A liberty GT was About 52k . Add 2k for Auto and 2k for wagon before on road costs. That was the base model. The premium was more. That was in 2004. Up around 60k on the road and that was 20 years ago. We havnt added any accessories yet either :-). Also remember the Liberty B4 sedan was about 52k in 2001 before on roads.
There are two Liberty GT wagons near my house. I love them.
Choosing the trim with the turbo in the US is about $6000 more after tax. In addition to a more powerful engine, you get more standard equipment:
1. powered front seats,
2. heated rear seats ,
3.full size spare tire,
4. moon-roof,
5. navigation,
6. reverse automatic braking,
7. front view camera.
These features are not crucial but are nice to have. probably worth around 2k+ by themselves, so technically you are paying around 3k+ for the 2.4t engine.
More importantly, the 2.4t engine might have less issues than the 2.5 engines, which is known more likely to have oil consumption and leak issues. Those issues are expensive to repair and could affect the overall lifespan of the Outback. It definitely outweigh the gas mileage difference. The 2.4t engine could potentially have belt and water pump issues, but those are easy to maintain and cheaper to fix.
The 2.4t engine is also able to keep high torque output in a wider RPM range, from 2k to 4k, while 2.5 reaches highest torque around 4k(I think?). So definitely more capable and fun than the 2.5.
I recently just bought a 2.5 outback, it is so smooth to drive, I like it very much. I think the power and potential issues of the 2.5 engine are the only weak points of my car. the 2.5 version outback get you the best bang for the bucks on paper, but 2.4t engine could make the outback a perfect car in my opinion, but I only learned that after buying the car.
So please think more than I did before you choose the engine.
Thanks for your comment! Wow that’s a big price jump in the US.
Had my Outback Sports XT for 3 weeks... brillant... Had VWs for the last 25 years
Great! Bit of a change!’
I have had my XT for now 11 months and averaging 8.9 L/100km for that whole time, winter and summer drinving, occasionaly carrying two kayaks and 2 bikes, mixed highway/city driving. I am quite pleased with fuel consumption and overall performance. Only drawback for me so far, is the noisy engine, especially at startup. Once inside though, it is acceptable.
I rented an Outback for a week to check it out. My daily driver is an Explorer.
I liked it. A lot. It's a little smaller than the Ford but I can adapt quickly.
The only thing I could have been more thrilled about is the rather blah power of the 2.5. It's not terrible, but it's a little anemic when you need a burst of power. The XT would fix that, no doubt.
The XT is on the near-term radar screen.
XT Limited and Touring in US is a different car/category, acoustic side glass the quietest of any Subaru. Towing capacity is 1000ibs larger with a tongue weight of 350ibs, heavier rear suspension bigger brakes.
Wow!
@@therightcar acoustic front side glass is easy to tell, thick laminate different from the rear. Many people don’t realize the ‘small’ differences between xt top trims and the base level Outback. Different cars
Nice review but saying you would choose the turbo if it $3K dearer than the N/A but not $5K does not make a lot of sense to me on when you are paying over $50K either way. For that $3K you also get a sunroof and leather seats, ventilated front seats, two-memory driver's seat, a heated steering wheel, an upgraded Harmon Kardon sound system, a CD player and a vehicle that will likely hold its value better when it's time to update. The turbo is more effortless to drive. By the way, my experience with 3 Subarus, including one 4 cyl turbo and a 6 cyl 3.6 N/A is that fuel economy improves with some mileage on them. And no, I don't work for Subaru.
What I’m saying is you get all that for less if you don’t want the turbo. So if you don’t have the extra $5000 to spend (thanks inflation and interest rates) you might be fine with the standard engine.
Hi Mat could you tell me what the on road costs in Victoria thanks Mark
I can’t. But if you go to the Subaru website and key in your postcode the website will tell you.
I think if your planning on keeping your xt turbo would be worth it.
I did choose the xt for an all round better driving experience. Nothing worse than needing a run up to overtake a road train or caravan. Power if and when you need it.
Test drove the Passat Alltrack and Outback Xt, Passat wins on quality, refinement and drive experience. Huge boot area.
Good feedback!
Be glad that you can choose between 2 motors. We can't in Europe 😞
Be even gladder if there was a PHEV…!
Did you mention the turbo engine is a bit noisy? Is that ture? A lot of the reviews say it is quieter.
It is noisy at idle. Quieter at speed and definitely more hushed under loaded acceleration.
I would pay the $5k in a heartbeat! It's the 95RON that is a deal breaker for me, it's currently 190.9 for 95 vs 175.9 for regular, that's substantial. It surprises me that this fact doesn't get mentioned more often in reviews.
Also, not sure why it is 91RON in the US. Can you actually run the XT on 91RON without any risk of damage?
I’m no chemist, but it’s to do with the difference in the quality of the refined oil that we use vs USA, I think?
And you’re right. 95 premium is priced high - but I would spend the extra on the fuel if you’re willing to pay overs for the engine.
@therightcar my limted research indicates that 91RON is equivalent to 87RON in the US. The US uses an anti knock index. Essentially, for any given fuel, RON is about four points higher than the Anti-Knock Index. That would make the US 91 equivalent to AUS 95. Checks out haha 😄
Shame you can't get the turbo in the base model
Finally a turbo subie review! 😎
More coming!!
Maybe I should do a used car review on a VL Turbo.
@@therightcar sutututu🤣
The good old days.
It’s a must
The former turbo Forrester was a terrific car and it’s a great disappointment that Subaru has not brought that back to Australia. Much better for most than the Outback.
I wouldn't own an Outback without a Turbo. It's under powered without the Turbo. Spend the money and get the Turbo. Do even look at the others. I've had both.
Okay, thanks. I’ve since had a bit more of a think about and, if it’s cash from your bank account in a lump sum, it hurts to pay the premium. But if it’s finance and you only pay an extra $25 a week, just cut back on a takeaway coffee each day.
well, I like sport version's exterior finish, such as balck grill and rim, but prefer touring's equipment. so i would go with 50th special edition.
That’s a solid pick!!
Yeah I feel exactly the same, but not a fan of the one colour offered in the 50th special edition
I have this 2023 Subaru Outback XT with Turbo and it only cost me 42,000.00 in the USA, I have all the extra's.
The only real reason for the touring imo is the stereo. The seats don’t really justify the extra cost over the sport for me. If they brought the wilderness here with the HK stereo I’d buy it in a heart beat
Wilderness is a possibility... but not sure if it'll have HK stereo.
@@therightcar yeah I folded and went the best of both with the 50 year edition. Get the sports looks plus the stereo. Once I saw that geyser blue in the flesh I was sold on the spot.
@@PANN1Cau I have one on hold. Haven't seen the geyser blue in the flesh yet, I really wanted the Autumn Green so my purchase is pending actually seeing it. What are your thoughts on the black rear garnish? My ideal version of this car is the Autumn Green Sport with the HK stereo and leather trim, which I can't get.
@@user-iu1rl3go6g yeah that's the ideal version, although I'd prefer in black. Not a real fan of the geyser blue. Fingers crossed we get the wilderness and they throw in leather seats and the HK stereo, but I doubt it.
@@colhutchins I now own the 50 year anniversary edition in geyser blue and can confirm the blue is awesome in the flesh. Photos don't do it justice. Looks especially great if you get the paint protection. For me, it's the perfect combo of exterior and interior finishes and would have been a toss up with the green if available. Would look great in black too.
You'll need deep pockets for the service costs and the the fuel economy isn't all that flash either, shame as they've always done a good job with these.
The costs keep on coming.
Scorpio Classic in black colour🖤🧠💨
I love the chunky Classic!
I do wish we got the turbo in the UK.
fuel octane for both engines?
91RON regular unleaded for non-turbo.
95RON premium for turbo.
@@therightcar Interesting, as the recommendation in the USA is the same for both motors -- regular unleaded.
OK Subaru Australia now bring back the Forester XT!
You bet.
How come only the Passatt or Superb are mentioned as competitors. What about the Volvo V60 Cross Country - another raised wagon isn't it!!
For $20000 more and with less practicality.
@@therightcar damnit you beat me to it
The turbo engine should be the standard engine.
Every car reviewer in Australia, since time began, seems to recommend the most basic model of every car for some bizarre reason… I’ve never bought a base model and neither has anybody in my family or anyone else I know
It’s probably a reflection of our budgets - and how much we’re paid. 😛
I suppose fully loaded up the turbo would be good but not when you’ve clocked over 100000 k.
Let me get my crystal ball 🔮
The answer to this question is simply "yes". =)
Thats the new modus operandy of Subaru, eliminated the STI and the WRX new cost is the same as Old STI without the same power and gadgets, the Forester is no longer Turbo, even the Wilderness Edition is higher in price than the XTs without the Turbo..Im not a Subaru fan anymore, they are just for the money and Quality is gone. I live in Puerto Rico and have to add about $20k to those US MSRPs.
Don't agree at all. Drove non turbo and then bought a turbo. Nuff said. Massive difference passing and I live rurally in NZ and it is actually a safety matter. **** XT
That’s fair. But it’s still a bit pricey compared to the NA. However, since I filmed this I think I have realised that, if I was financing it and the repayments meant sacrificing a takeaway coffee per day, I’d do it.
If $5k gets me effortless & relaxed driving(compared to the 2.5)?
Yeah, I’ll take that
*cmon dude😂, $3k & not $5k?
you’re hard on the old purse strings.
Interesting the difference in the models between there and USA. I think you have Japanese-built ones, while ours are built here. We certainly have more variants. I like the styling a bit better on the USA models, too. I bought an Outback Onyx XT with the turbo motor, and I am pleased with the powertrain performance. The turbo's low-end torque is very diesel-like, and gives that same relaxed low-RPM vibe. It is a good pairing with the CVT due to that. The price delta, if you factor in the additional equipment, is not that bad, probably $2000-2500 US. I traded in a 2014 Honda Accord V6 (the last great muscle car), and I have to say that the Star-tex is more comfortable than the leather in the Honda. All leathers are not equal, to be sure, and I have heard similar things about the non-Nappa Subie leathers. The main problem so far is that my wife likes the look of the (US-version) Outback, and I suspect it might become her car over time.
Thanks Eric! Glad you’re enjoying your car - I always love seeing how we react differently in different markets to different specs!
Ppl really be out here paying 52k for a 20k car... insanity
What’s a $20k car?
@@therightcar Hyundai Elantra SE, pure driving machine
Ha! You mean a few-year-old sedan as opposed to a brand new large SUV? Okay.
@4.34....bruh. nah bruh. nah.
Bruh yourself. 😋
UA-cam is international. AUD means Australian Dollars, and USD means United States of America's Dollars.
In 2014 AUD $1 bought USD $1.05. They introduced Globalisation, Australia introduced free trade and Australia went off the gold standard, Ford, GM and Toyota took their manufacturing of cars overseas and now our AUD $1 buys USD 0.65 cents. It is critical to identify the currency used. Most people compare their currency to USD.
So the price is AUD $52,000 is actually USD $33,660.
In Australia there are additional charges, delivery fees, pre delivery checks, registration, compulsory third party insurance, finance costs including interest on the loan, and that would require a full compulsory insurance policy. It is deliberately confusing, power to the salesman.
Are you okay?
If I buy Subaru, I want reliability. I'm not sure the turbo adds to that particular area of the vehicle. On the contrary. What is wrong with a naturally aspirated engine ? Nothing. It's relatively economic and quite reliable. Why would I bother ? well the car is quite slow without it, and the towing capability limited.
I hear you mate.
False title of the video WRX crossover? hardly it is it's own model it does not cross over from any other subaru model.
I gotta get clicks somehow
Are you mad lol? The turbo is the only engine to choose
Maybe a little mad.
I’ve thought about it more and like, if the repayments were only $20 a week more, then I might just do it.
@@therightcar the insult to your dignity will cost way more!
Need the turbo mate and great review.
Thanks!