How Under Armour RUINED Steph Curry's Shoes

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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    Stephen Curry’s deal with Under Armour pays him more than he makes playing basketball but something is not right. The Curry line took off in 2015 but immediately took a dive while Curry only became more popular. This is a look at what went wrong and how UA failed their version of Michael Jordan.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 411

  • @hobear637
    @hobear637 Місяць тому +462

    Under armor fumbled the bag so hard that they’re a case study in business school now.

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому +6

      @@hobear637 how? It's not because of Curry. They're actually a pretty successful business, as it started from some guy out of his garage making only performance gear for football players and overtook Adidas as number 2 for sports brand. Then still being in the top 5 after a lot of their miscalculations in expansion as a result of being so big so fast.

    • @GodBlessGodBless1227
      @GodBlessGodBless1227 Місяць тому +9

      I love under armor attire. Quality stuff. Curry is corny and his shoes look weird, that’s why they’re not selling. He probably designed them, he has no sense of style.

    • @tirosc
      @tirosc Місяць тому +18

      @@GodBlessGodBless1227 Neither do you if you think underarmor looks good lmao

    • @brianbusogi2832
      @brianbusogi2832 Місяць тому +2

      @@tiroscHe’s probably talking about attire like their compression shirts

    • @jeus_saaa
      @jeus_saaa Місяць тому +4

      @@tirosc UA used to be the standard for compression shirts. i think that's what he meant by attire.

  • @ronald8664
    @ronald8664 Місяць тому +97

    the worst part about being a steph fan is getting his shoes. It took ages to get the 2022 finals shoes, curry 4 flo, im talking almost 5 months after the finals. Their marketing of their biggest star is terrible

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому +8

      You do know that his shoes were being released way more frequently than other companies, most guys get like 1 signature a year, he was getting one like every 6 months. They were debuting his next signature in June, and usually release the next signature at the end of the summer for back to school sales. I remember little kids wearing them all the time, as UA were smart making tons of super colorful versions for kids. It's why Lemelo's shoes are so popular too, he makes crazy colorful versions of his shoes for the kids.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Місяць тому +6

      the people handling Melo and Ja's shoe portfolio are geniuses!

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Місяць тому

      sneakerheads are fucking losers. people with walls of sneakers are idiots. even a brand new shoe in its box will deteriorate. shoes arent art, nor important

  • @14ghostlax.
    @14ghostlax. Місяць тому +690

    not again with the underdog.. 🤦‍♂️

    • @Dav7ddd
      @Dav7ddd Місяць тому +135

      At least he puts the bar to see when to stop skipping😂

    • @TheDiesel408
      @TheDiesel408 Місяць тому +41

      Ur just jealous you lost money on your last bet🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @Frostburn2716
      @Frostburn2716 Місяць тому

      @@TheDiesel408you have to be a bot. No way you’re this stupid

    • @unitempt7975
      @unitempt7975 Місяць тому +26

      Gotta pay the rent

    • @GroillaMan
      @GroillaMan Місяць тому +76

      @@TheDiesel408nah we just don’t wanna watch a guy who supports gambling 😂

  • @winstonchurchill9467
    @winstonchurchill9467 Місяць тому +96

    1:39 to skip the ads

    • @AR-rg2en
      @AR-rg2en Місяць тому +1

      thanks

    • @vigilancenyoni3944
      @vigilancenyoni3944 Місяць тому +4

      You're doing the lord's work

    • @Revan-N7
      @Revan-N7 Місяць тому +1

      Juste use sponsorblock guys and contribute

  • @squidfather
    @squidfather Місяць тому +141

    Are we gonna talk about how Kawhi got ROASTED for signing with New Balance? And now New Balance is one of the hottest brands out there.

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому +30

      They were hot because influencers decided to make that the new brand to wear like how Champion got a resurgence in 2018-2019, and Kawaii didn't actually have a signature shoes for like years, he played in a shoe everyone just assumed were his signatures. It was funny for him, as he had a rep for being boring and signed with a boring shoe company.

    • @gravydoors
      @gravydoors Місяць тому +14

      It’s one of the hottest brands because of the current streetwear trend of 2000s running shoes. Not because of Kawhi or his signature shoes. Do you see a lot wearing Kahwi shoes on the gym like Curry 1s before? Signing Teddy Santis as the creative director had a bigger impact to NB, not Kawhi.

    • @nealdutta2312
      @nealdutta2312 Місяць тому +8

      Who in Gods name would wear Kawaii New Balance shoes? The injured embassader for basketball shoes....lol. If you buy my signature shoe I guarentee injury will occur on average of 80 percent of the regular and post season....lol.

    • @Dj_Not_Nice
      @Dj_Not_Nice Місяць тому

      Corvette owners made it hot

    • @saintrocketIX
      @saintrocketIX Місяць тому

      New Balance: old white people's second-favorite N-word.

  • @pablomendez8419
    @pablomendez8419 Місяць тому +258

    The title should be Curry Brand was FIRE…Then Under Armour Ruined It

    • @Willwaterprism
      @Willwaterprism Місяць тому +12

      What was it before?

    • @Carthagin1an
      @Carthagin1an Місяць тому +6

      He took your suggestion

    • @JoaquinBravoContreras
      @JoaquinBravoContreras Місяць тому

      @@Carthagin1an yeah, what was it before? :-p

    • @ethan36-
      @ethan36- Місяць тому +2

      @@JoaquinBravoContrerashow under armor ruined curry brand

  • @KellyWakasa
    @KellyWakasa Місяць тому +96

    Curry been changing the game😤can’t follow the trend he do it different

    • @bootlegged1
      @bootlegged1 Місяць тому +4

      kelwak my goat on an am hoops vid 🐐

    • @Ethan-s5m
      @Ethan-s5m Місяць тому +1

      Post more bro😊

    • @JohnSmith-ei1ig
      @JohnSmith-ei1ig Місяць тому

      Letting curry have sex with your wife is crazy tho

  • @vinniechan
    @vinniechan Місяць тому +6

    The design of those Currys shoes wouldnt look out of place for Tim Duncans signature line 😂

  • @EAZYMONEYSNIPER7
    @EAZYMONEYSNIPER7 Місяць тому +31

    My girl got me a pair of curry shoes, I've never mowed the lawn more comfortably in my life !

  • @mlai2546
    @mlai2546 Місяць тому +3

    I switched to UA before they signed Curry. My first pair lasted me 3-4 years. Bought 2 more Currys after that. However, the last Curry shoe I bought, it didnt last more than 2 months. My knees started to hurt, I couldn't play more than 30min. Then i realized the cushion was gone. I sent it back to UA compalining about how poorly the cushions were. It took me about 2 years for my knees to return to 80% of what it was. I dont think ill ever get back to 100%. Never buying UA again!

  • @porterwake3898
    @porterwake3898 Місяць тому +111

    Don't underestimate the power of stupid executives.

    • @kentstallard6512
      @kentstallard6512 Місяць тому +2

      EXACTLY
      Retired Boomer, was in management for regional Bell system companies (telecommunications).
      Too many decisions made with SHORT TERM profits the primary driver.
      Too many decisions handed down from people with zero experience on or comprehensive knowledge of the front lines.
      I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir for anyone else in management at a corporation.

    • @elementallyyt1517
      @elementallyyt1517 Місяць тому

      Trump, Biden... And now what??

    • @thrashwerk
      @thrashwerk Місяць тому

      They aren't called manglement for nothing.

    • @bigbangbasketball
      @bigbangbasketball Місяць тому +2

      Greed often leads to a downfall

    • @kentstallard6512
      @kentstallard6512 Місяць тому

      @@elementallyyt1517 They're irrelevant.
      Democracy vs fascism. Now what? Hopefully the former.

  • @mathieumalecki6332
    @mathieumalecki6332 Місяць тому +14

    "it kinda reminds me of what happened with the g-league ignite" 🤨🤣

  • @juiceman_3
    @juiceman_3 Місяць тому +10

    UA never really focused on the look of the shoe

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому +2

      Most Basketball shoe reviewers acknowledge that the Curry 2s are some of the best performance shoes ever made, the best traction on any Basketball shoe ever.
      However, this was also around the time that people stopped wearing Basketball shoes casually altogether, as all Basketball shoes became performance driven and not looks driven, so a lot of Basketball shoes today can't be worn casually or aren't durable enough to last a year of non Basketball wear.

  • @TanishSomani-mw8ol
    @TanishSomani-mw8ol Місяць тому +5

    The picture on the starting screen is too funny😂😂😂

  • @lemini4k
    @lemini4k Місяць тому +41

    The most SLEPT on Curry shoes are the Curry 2.5 (Sub Model of the 2) and the Curry Hovr Splash 3. The Hovr Splash 3 is the most comfortable basketball shoe I've ever worn in my life since the T-Mac 2 (All-Stars from 2003) & Adidas Kobe Crazy 8 OG. (From 1999.)

    • @Racoons4Change
      @Racoons4Change Місяць тому +2

      This video and these comments are reminding me, guys who don’t really hoop or coach don’t know any hooping shoe’s outside of Kobe’s or kyries. I have multiple brands of hooping shoes, curry 9s may be the best basketball shoe I’ve ever had. So this video and comments are full of people who don’t REALLY hoop.

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Racoons4Changemost basketball shoe reviewers love the curry 2s, they say some of the best balling shoe ever made for the traction.

    • @lemini4k
      @lemini4k Місяць тому

      @@gilbertoflores7397 I didn't say the 2's. I said 2.5's. Also, I said the Kobe Crazy 8 adidas from the late 90s & early 2000s, not these generic restomod versions. I'm 38 and an OG. I've played D1, college, semi pro. If I wasn't 5'10 and was taller I'd of definitely had a better chance of playing somewhere besides overseas. I'm like the guy at the end of the bench who would bust anyone's ass in the UA-cam comments in a 1 v1. There is a lot of hoopers like me out here who are still nice as f. Trust my hooper sneaker game is efficient, dope and random as hell. Gen-Z could not of lasted in the 90s or early 2000s. We were to strong, skilled and physical. 🤣

  • @MVM-EDITS
    @MVM-EDITS Місяць тому +5

    Always a great day when A.M Hoops uploads💪

  • @kingluffy989
    @kingluffy989 Місяць тому +32

    Step Curry Will Always Be a Legend 🔥

  • @KellyWakasa
    @KellyWakasa Місяць тому +18

    Curry’s my fav shoes all time🤩🤩🤩

    • @btntv
      @btntv Місяць тому +1

      I love them

  • @zeffhetman
    @zeffhetman 3 дні тому +1

    I have a couple pairs of curry’s, curry 1 flotro and curry 9s. These are my 2 favorite basketball shoes I’ve ever played in. His basketball shoes have been very high quality ever since the rebrand where they started using the flow foam

  • @basedat4651
    @basedat4651 Місяць тому +3

    3:33 Kenny Payne 😂

  • @brandonpelly848
    @brandonpelly848 Місяць тому +2

    Your a genius connected your previous videos, I dunno how you were ever gonna advert the previous video haha but somehow you did! 😂

  • @oscarvincenttalavera8527
    @oscarvincenttalavera8527 Місяць тому +3

    He should have signed with Lavar's BBB.

  • @oleunis7921
    @oleunis7921 Місяць тому +5

    0:04 most popular athlete in the world? C'mon man, that's the year Messi won his fourth UCL

  • @knokzi8162
    @knokzi8162 Місяць тому +20

    ngl curry 11 sky blue colorway clean asf and feels good as well

  • @posivibe989
    @posivibe989 Місяць тому +2

    I lose so much respect for players that have such high prices for their shoes. Say what you will about Starbury. He kept those affordable for the poorest kids.

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Місяць тому +1

    Thumbnail is CRAZY 😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅🎉😅😅🎉😅😂😂😅😅😂

  • @FadeHook23
    @FadeHook23 Місяць тому +3

    Ja’s shoes @8:17 are Kyries

  • @MlGHTY1
    @MlGHTY1 Місяць тому +1

    It's been years that I've only purchased low top shoes.
    Hight Top shoes were hot 20 years ago.
    UA still hasn't caught up to it

  • @claya.bishop5356
    @claya.bishop5356 Місяць тому +6

    PG 1's, Curry 2's and Kyrie 1's best hoop shoes ever for a guard

  • @marcomarco8683
    @marcomarco8683 Місяць тому +6

    All his sneakers look bad

  • @hibachiagent0249
    @hibachiagent0249 Місяць тому

    I got the UA2 father to son colorway when they first came out. I still wear them when I play basketball to this day. Best basketball shoes I've ever worn.

  • @glennjthompson332
    @glennjthompson332 Місяць тому +4

    I can't wear them..😆it almost tears my ankle...literally!🙄

  • @delanodouglas6390
    @delanodouglas6390 Місяць тому +1

    Under Armor had Steph Curry. There’s only one Michael Jordan. And with so many players having signature shoes, it isn’t the same with signature shoes for companies now the way it was when Jordan got the signature shoe game going. No player could do for a company what Jordan did for Nike back in the 80s and 90s.

  • @PascalSiakam-102
    @PascalSiakam-102 Місяць тому +9

    Curry 11 one of my favs

  • @cookiemonster-edits
    @cookiemonster-edits Місяць тому +4

    Under Armour sold so hard, it mad Steph a millionaire.💀

  • @gurkiratgeez9431
    @gurkiratgeez9431 Місяць тому +3

    Iove curry man
    Glad your making videos like this

  • @1Joseph25
    @1Joseph25 Місяць тому +1

    ngl 2016 remember copping Curry 1st, but man they were very painful in game

  • @SWISHZZ_HOOPS
    @SWISHZZ_HOOPS Місяць тому +4

    Great vid❤

  • @M0T0283
    @M0T0283 Місяць тому +7

    i was in middle school-highschool during the peak of curry and under armor. almost every boy had his shoes. it was after the 3s that i stopped seeing currys. i only saw anyone wear 4-5s like once or twice.

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому +1

      That was around the time that ball shoes begin looking too performance based and couldn't look good casually. That why people don't wear basketball shoes regularly anymore, the designs are too performance based, and have terrible durability outside of a court.

  • @GabrielLopez-hz4di
    @GabrielLopez-hz4di Місяць тому +1

    I don't know why people didn't like the Curry 2 because I had them and I wore those shoes until they were no longer useful to me, they never broke and I never felt pain in my feet, I even gave them away because my feet grew and they were too small for me.

  • @willsniff776
    @willsniff776 Місяць тому +4

    Dude really didn't learn we don't give af about gambling...

    • @ALONZOHARRIS2020
      @ALONZOHARRIS2020 Місяць тому

      I agree, but with the mountainous knowledge he gives us for free, it's a molehill

  • @MatttPickklesss
    @MatttPickklesss Місяць тому +3

    I still got my curry 1’s just sitting in my closet

  • @Jaylenwaddleking
    @Jaylenwaddleking Місяць тому +4

    Big fan man

  • @curtisk81
    @curtisk81 28 днів тому

    I was looking at getting curry’s recently living in Canada prices are different but the latest curry was $270 CAD which is ridiculous

  • @lostinspacecamp4245
    @lostinspacecamp4245 Місяць тому

    I loved the 3s so much, and now I dont even know if the Currys still exist

  • @ronilokristopherbonacua9692
    @ronilokristopherbonacua9692 Місяць тому

    Finally u got kicks content. ❤ one of my fave hoops channel.

  • @seenaheidary4395
    @seenaheidary4395 Місяць тому +2

    Damn, a sneakers video. I like it

  • @TheChosenOneFN
    @TheChosenOneFN Місяць тому +8

    I literally got a new pair of Curry’s on Friday😂

  • @ThatsPety
    @ThatsPety Місяць тому +1

    3:24 it's funny because at this point it looks weird seeing Steph wear nikes 😂

  • @patrickhenderson9427
    @patrickhenderson9427 Місяць тому

    I've bought 3 pairs of Curry 6's over the years. Probably the goat performing shoe for me. The new ones with the flow traction grip too hard. I trip all the time.
    It used to be only Nike for basketball shoes. All other brands were terrible. In the last decade, non-Nikes have really stepped it up and make some solid performers.

  • @notDonaldFagen
    @notDonaldFagen Місяць тому

    People who buy basketball shoes buy them to play basketball in. The only sneakers that cross over to urban fashion are Jordans. Honorable mentions to Kobes and Kyries. Nobody is buying anyone's signature shoes to wear with their fits.

  • @do3807
    @do3807 Місяць тому

    Custom shoe sounds dope, like a one of a kind thing to have.

  • @DailyNihilism
    @DailyNihilism Місяць тому

    Am hoops you keep making nice videos. Great journalism ngl

  • @PrettyboyAshtun
    @PrettyboyAshtun 23 дні тому

    i remember people used to wear his first 2 shoes like jordan’s at school 😂

  • @enyj9980
    @enyj9980 Місяць тому

    Clutch Fit Drives were my favorite

  • @basketball4life839
    @basketball4life839 Місяць тому

    Honestly Curry 11’s are one of his best shoes. I bought a pair on my trip to Edmonton, Canada. (AKA Deadmonton) and the shoe is really comfy it does take time to break in but still a really good shoe.

  • @brinydemon0321
    @brinydemon0321 Місяць тому +1

    Curry should've signed with Adidas.

  • @WASIV
    @WASIV Місяць тому

    Nike almost ruined his career with their shoes. That was the hyperfuse era and boy were his ankle sprains nasty. The shoes were terrible for him. Nike didn't make him a priority at any time. They didn't even seem to care enough to help him find a solution.
    UA helped save his career. They've been willing to give him exactly what he wants his shoe to be, to prioritize his health and performance. That comes at the cost of sacrificing the hype of new tech.
    UA was never destined for long term success with Steph unless they broadened their demographic appeal with very different athletes and marketing. They tried to go for a totally different market than Nike, by signing athletes like Brady and Spieth. Which is stupid bc they appeal to the same demographic that Steph Curry appeals to. They aren't the people that are going to get in line every month to buy the latest release for $150- $250

  • @992kaan
    @992kaan Місяць тому +3

    i love steph curry but he was never the most popular athlete on the world

  • @isaacdebeila8085
    @isaacdebeila8085 Місяць тому

    greed, and dumb decisions is a hell of a drug to companies man

  • @eldarsports
    @eldarsports Місяць тому

    What is the name of the background music between 2:30-3:11?
    Guys please if someone knows I need it ASAP

  • @3lackSwordsman
    @3lackSwordsman Місяць тому

    Can you please upload in the AM Hoops?

  • @Jnicholss11
    @Jnicholss11 Місяць тому

    Steph has some of the best tech for guards in basketball right now. If Under Armour ever lowers the cost per shoe to let younger players in, they would take over

  • @raifarajallah
    @raifarajallah Місяць тому

    You rock Casey ; showing what goes wrong with Under Armor 👌🏼

  • @onnejbenigay5208
    @onnejbenigay5208 Місяць тому

    Are you going to release off-season grades for every team?

  • @jeramiahhh
    @jeramiahhh Місяць тому +1

    thumbnail is not steph curry 😭

  • @CitroChannel
    @CitroChannel Місяць тому

    I hope Curry Brand is successful and better managed than Under Armour by itself. If only for my boy De'Aaron Fox who signed with Curry. I want some high quality Fox shoes badly.

  • @ThatguyBrad69
    @ThatguyBrad69 Місяць тому

    Rubio and Jeff Teague 😅. Yay underdog is back 😢

  • @TheJoEmAgIC12
    @TheJoEmAgIC12 Місяць тому

    Jeff Teague? Johnny Flynn?

  • @literalspam6894
    @literalspam6894 5 днів тому

    How do you go from the Curry 1s to designing random bs afterward

  • @1moonshotterbuzzededwin491
    @1moonshotterbuzzededwin491 Місяць тому

    I have the curry 9 and the traction is the best of any hoop shoe I ever used. It’s a great shoe

  • @G.O.A.T.E.Dsport
    @G.O.A.T.E.Dsport Місяць тому

    Get cooper Flagg to sign with curry

  • @user-eg7kt7xv8p
    @user-eg7kt7xv8p Місяць тому

    Peak off-season content

  • @SikaVutha
    @SikaVutha Місяць тому

    I love the NBA but the international impact that Jordan and Kobe had will never be replicated.

  • @Donpicasso
    @Donpicasso Місяць тому

    He signed Fox as the first active player to sign another active player

  • @HeathHunthausen-mf3mi
    @HeathHunthausen-mf3mi Місяць тому +1

    Kobe harden not JA and Melos

  • @ballgameshoes8583
    @ballgameshoes8583 Місяць тому

    The 2.5 should have been the 3. The .5 shoe idea was not a good idea and the 3 design didnt work.

  • @iamtheonlywilly
    @iamtheonlywilly Місяць тому

    I think if curry lowers the price he may be able bounce back a little. I was gonna buy some but I’m not spending 160 for a shoe brand ive never owned

  • @milesroyer172
    @milesroyer172 Місяць тому

    I see the same correlation with your recent videos to Under Armor’s success

  • @Tsound1
    @Tsound1 Місяць тому +2

    Where are these shoes being sold and wore🤣🤣🤣

  • @gyrozeppeli5628
    @gyrozeppeli5628 Місяць тому

    I love Curry shoe’s, but UA should’ve made more dope colorways, and made the outsole more durable 😅

  • @leemagnawel3779
    @leemagnawel3779 Місяць тому

    Always prepared to skip underdog😂

  • @brucelston
    @brucelston Місяць тому

    Lol micky Tatum ahead of curry is wild😂

  • @hedreccochoufi9531
    @hedreccochoufi9531 Місяць тому +3

    D book has the best shoe line !!

  • @ynotefil
    @ynotefil Місяць тому

    Once Again I Find Myself Thanking The Minnesota Timberwolves For Passing On Steph Curry In The 2009 NBA Draft. DYNASTY!

  • @ryleygaming3496
    @ryleygaming3496 Місяць тому

    Curry brand has DFox right?

  • @wishfullythinking8938
    @wishfullythinking8938 Місяць тому

    Honestly the only thing I hate about Curry shoes now is that they don’t use rubber soles.. you burn thru that flow crap so quick.. encase it in rubber .. for the price you pay you’ll go through it like no tomorrow

  • @kermitthefrog6857
    @kermitthefrog6857 Місяць тому

    Man I remember when steph took off under armour was the brand to have

  • @rosemkz
    @rosemkz Місяць тому

    The curry 2’s were hard, I just bought Kyries cause they fit my play style more

  • @BrogodHuncho
    @BrogodHuncho Місяць тому

    Prostate Exam 7s😂😂😭😭😭

  • @greendro6410
    @greendro6410 Місяць тому

    Curry is my current favorite basketball player

  • @iHasCaek
    @iHasCaek Місяць тому

    performance and design "could" save the curry brand. cant have those ER nurse 1's style again.

  • @robrig55
    @robrig55 Місяць тому

    I really rooting for Steph on this but his shoes were expensive

  • @bigbangbasketball
    @bigbangbasketball Місяць тому

    So nike truly fumbled the bag lol

  • @topsykretts2264
    @topsykretts2264 Місяць тому

    Under Armour quality sucks too. My feet hurts whenever I wear any of their shoes.

  • @Supremely_Based_Takes
    @Supremely_Based_Takes Місяць тому

    General wait to see where Kaitlyn Clark shoe ranks on this list.

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 Місяць тому

      If they give her a good design, maybe it'll do well like Sebrina got. Otherwise, it'll do bad, the signature Basketball shoe market is very saturated, too maay athletes have their own shoe to follow.

  • @MC-kj7dy
    @MC-kj7dy Місяць тому +2

    They dropped the ball with curry. Who the hell wears curry’s? 😂

  • @rexarthur26
    @rexarthur26 Місяць тому

    Undwr Armour needs more NBA signature athlete

  • @AngeloMorales-u1e
    @AngeloMorales-u1e Місяць тому

    I’m ngl the 2s look better than the ones on god.. you couldn’t catch me dead in those but those 4s did look fire

  • @franciscodiaz3028
    @franciscodiaz3028 Місяць тому

    I remember seein a pair of low tops being called energy but were marketed as lo energy... lo energy... cmon such bad marketing