The Fate Series Iceberg Explained
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Wanna hear some dude mispronounce names, words and locations from various different countries and cultures?
Background footage
• Fate/Grand Order NA - ... (Grand/Order Fuyuki from JasonDoesWhatever)
• Fate/Grand Order NA - ... (Grand/Order Babylonia from JasonDoesWhatever)
• Fate/Grand Order NA - ... (Grand/Order Camelot from JasonDoesWhatever)
• Fate/Grand Order NA - ... (Grand/Order Shinjuku from JasonDoesWhatever)
• Fate/Grand Order NA - ... (Grand/Order Anastasia from JasonDoesWhatever)
More information on topics featured in the video
• A Beginner's Guide to ... - Kaptain Kaos' guide to the Nasuverse
• The Lore of Fate/Extra... - OtakuDaiKun's video on Fate Extra lore
• FATE GRAND ORDER Waltz... - Waltz in the MOONLIGHT/LOSTROOM gameplay
• Dig Dug BB - Dig Dug BB gameplay
• Do People Really Die W... - OtakuDaiKun's video on when people die meme
• Fate/Grand Order - FGO... - Fate/Grand Order: Pinball gameplay & bios
• In Defense of Deen/Sta... - Glass Reflection's video on Studio Deen's Fate Stay Night
• The THIRD Holy Grail W... - Third Holy Grail War lore
• Fate/Grand Order flipp... - Fate/Grand Order flippin' Summon gameplay
• Video - Lost Jerusalem Singularity playthrough
anime.chaika.moe/tm2015/timel... - TMitter2015 archive
www.tmdict.com/en/ho.rejected... - more information on scrapped routes
• Exploring Gender in th... - OtakuDaiKun's video on gender in Fate
• Fate/unlimited codes -... & • Fate/unlimited codes -... - all Unlimited Codes endings
• What is Fate/Prototype? - Oscar's video on Fate/Prototype
• Fate/Grand Order Arcad... - Overview of Grand Order Arcade
• Everytime Lancer Died ... - collection of most of Lancer's deaths
/ unlimited_title_works_... - Draconix814's guide to the Nasuverse
• 【FGO】「Fate/Pixel Wars」... - Fate/Pixel Wars gameplay
• 【FGO】Fate/Grand Order☓... - Tsukihime x Grand Order april fools prank
• 【FGO】Fate/Grand Order☓... - Gundam x Grander Order april fools prank
• The Lore of Fate/kalei... - OtakuDaiKun's video on Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya lore
00:00 - Intro
01:07 - Tier 1: Fuyuki
38:52 - Commercial Break 1
39:12 - Tier 2: The Clock Tower
1:06:04 - Commercial Break 2
1:06:35 - Tier 3: The Moon Cell
1:33:33 - Commercial Break 3
1:34:02 - Tier 4: Avalon
1:53:17 - Outro - Розваги
Most servants when they were alive were the gender they are as a servant. Goofed that one oops
Why is hellsing ultimate worse than the og seris
@@bemusedlist9242 what?
Pig3636:Most servants when they were alive were the gender they are as a servant. Francis Drake:hold Liz's......i mean *my* boobs.
@pigpen im just high g have an amazing afternoon
There’s actually three versions of Jack the Ripper
That's hell you're walking into.
My pleasure
He already did....so yeah....
quite funny
I know.
Justin. Y worshipper: The only thing I was disturbed by was how he pronounced Tsukihime. lol
"We'll talk about that later" honestly the most common quote of the fate franchise. Also this is my most anticipated iceberg of yours yet. Awesome job once again.
Another one is "Dont worry about it" from Gigguk
I think you mean "Fuck you Kirei"
I came here to say this. Truly, you do the work of heros. @@hideyokids9665
I just wanna say that explaining Mordreds birth to people who have not watched Fate is the greatest and funniest thing a Fate Fan can do
Honestly even being a Fate fan and understanding it is still funny with just how convoluted it is
I mean, you can also just make it very very simple and say it all in a single word. "Homunculus". And then refuse to elaborate because those know, know.
it’s insane how perfectly consistent you can mispronounce the names of characters and series
This might not become your most popular iceberg, but personally, I'm very glad you made it! I love this franchise. Thanks for taking this VERY deep dive for us!
Same.
In B4 the most popular video
Playing the lostbels in FGO gets really dark real fast, goes way beyond preserving humanity
Well, it's preserving _your_ humanity, at the cost of others.
As some have said, it's a straight up war, you are eradicating others for your own chance to survive.
You go from hero of your story to straight up villain in the story of others. Honestly, it's a great change of pace.
Neko Arc has transcended beyond the franchise and went from being funny joke character to thicc shortstack gremlin, and I wouldnt have it any other way
The best kinda gremlin
I wasn’t aware of this development. Thanks for the cursed knowledge
1:08:12 Slight correction here since the release of FGO's chapter now has a (kinda) playable version of NPC Beast U-Olga with unique skills and battle animations. This is written right before the Lostbelt 7 part 2 live stream so I'm unsure about her being summonable in the near future. However, one of the FGO Arcade exclusive Servants is actually an immature version of Beast VI/S named Draco, who you could get for free for completing the story (I'm unsure if I missed you saying this part though 😅).
It's a great and informative video nonetheless! I'm surprised there was a spin-off featuring Kuzuki's daughter this down in the Iceberg 😮
and to awnser you
Nope she isnt she dies pretty sure
U olga^
As someone who hasn’t seen a single minute of Fate, hearing your passion for the series is genuinely heartwarming.
Hey Gray is implied to be related to Arthur but not as a descendant, she is heavily implied to be a descendant of Morgan, arthur's sister and and twin and she used her magecraft on her own children
I was thinking about a Fate Series iceberg for the past two days and this popped up. As a Fate fan for a very long time I am happy that you covered the iceberg.
Thank you for the video and keep the amazing work :)
2 little fun facts regarding the Luvia & Sakura's wrestler timeline (or I guess just the Tohsakas and Edelfelts):
-Rin & Sakura are cousins to Luvia: Their mothers were sisters.
-Sakura being adopted into the Edelfelts makes more (ethical) sense than giving her away to the Matous, as they are directly related.
Their grandmas not their mothers
I wanted to point out that Hercules is also insanely qualified as a servant, capable of being summoned as every standard servant class excluding caster. It's just that he's only ever been summoned as Berserker, while Arturia, as the series main mascot, gets every appearance they can think of.
Another very strange detail that (at the point I'm at of the video) you haven't mentioned, Ilya's mother, Irisviel (yeah, the family really isn't very creative with names) was, due to being a humunculus, younger in fate/zero than Ilya is in stay/night.
I didn’t expect a Fate iceberg from you, but I’m not complaining. I’m definitely watching this later and going to enjoy it, just like the other iceberg videos I’ve seen from you
Man even with a topic I originally had little interest in, you find all these neat factoids and histories and put such a good spin on them. Honestly, your presentation style alone is really good.
I'm actually surprised you didn't get anything major wrong with this vid as I expected when you announced the video in your update. Of course there's small mistakes and you could have explained some stuff better but good job, especially with how much Fate content there is outhere.
Although I would have preferred if you made the iceberg be more like ur DC/Marvel icebergs where they go in order of popularity to obscure stuff while excluding the obvious things like "Oh hey, there's batman movies." For example Its pretty weird how some of the FGO characters that completely dominate the internet in popularity are not in tier 1. Like I think every single weeb alive has seen an image of Jeanne Alter so its weird not seeing her being explained first.
as someone who knew nothing about the fate series i honestly appreciate him going over the very basics, i would be very lost otherwise.
Enjoyed this video. As a massive fate fan, I loved this iceberg in one afternoon. Although it probably didnt do as well as the rest, I hope it gives some consolation that you've made a bunch of us really grateful for an in-depth deep dive into franchise that many of us probably don't know either. Subbed!!
Oh heck yeah! Been looking forward to another Pigpen iceberg and it just so happens to be on one of my favorite franchises!
Heck yeah I always wanted one of these! Thank you!
Finally, god i was waiting for this, definitely watching it rn full.
I don’t know much about the fate franchise besides the characters since they get memed a whole bunch.
But my god, does it sound complicated to even put into an Iceberg and organize everything in a manner that explains the full context of the entry
Awesome job🔥🔥
Love all your videos! Didn't know fate had so much interesting media
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS, FOR SO LONG.
Lets see how deep it goes.
The part about the servants having different personalities when summoned as different classes is kind of true but not really.
Some servants' alternate class is just Grand Order being grand Order and giving the same servant different clothes, such as Normal Saber Artoria and Archer Artoria or Saber Artoria Alter and Rider Artoria Alter. They are in everyway but class and gameplay, just the same person.
Then there are servant who's the same person but at different points in time. Archer Gilgamesh is implied to be a Gilgamesh who is much younger and haven't gotten the existential dread of death from seeing his best friend Enkidu die yet, while Caster Gilgamesh is explicitly Gilgamesh after going through his journey (and failure) to gain immortality. Same thing with Normal Saber Artoria and Lily who are Artoria after and before she became King of Camelot respectively.
Then there's just, people who are technically the same people, but not actually. Saber Artoria, Lancer Artoria, Caster Artoria and Mysterious Heroine X are all separate people who despite looking the same and having the same True Name are completely different people from wildly different timeline and personality. Why are they like this? Because slapping Artoria's face onto servants literally prints typemoon money, just look at Nero and Okita. However there are very few more special cases like this such as normal Archer Nobunaga and Demon King Nobunaga or the Goddess Ishtar and the 4 different Space Ishtars that was just melded into one playable character in Fate/GO.
So yeah, like most things in Fate/, shits complicated.
Edit: I forgot to mention the biggest one! Berserker! Servants manifested as Berserker often has a pretty different personality (usually exaggerated) compared to their normal self. Most prominently seen with Saber and Berserker Lancelot who are supposed to be the same person around the same time frame. Berserker Lancelot just has his hatred for Artoria exaggerated due to the Berserker Class Skill madness enhancement.
There are also sometimes where external reason causes Servants to have a different personality from their "normal" self, rn the only servant like that I can think of is Rider Blackbeard in F/GO who due to time fuckery and general fate weirdness, became a weeb in the afterlife and thus acts like a weeb when summonsed. However normally, he would be closer to the cut throat and terrifying pirate captain from the legends.
It's so funny you mentioned watching icebergs on franchises you know nothing about because I initially discovered your channel watching your Eva iceberg. A franchise I knew absolutely nothing about.
Ok so adding onto the F/GO Arcade stuff, outside of it being a different timeline so some characters are different stuff like Jacques de Molay being male, the reason why there are so much story different actually ties to the fact that there's no cutscenes in the early singularities, because unlike the mobile game counterpart, Arcade Ritsuka basically speedruns the fucking singularities which is why he got to Jeruselum before Camelot took over.
Take a shot everytime Pigpen mispronounces Tsukihime, and 2 shots everytime he says the word Weird
Very nice video man, I'm a big fan of the fate series and if I hear anyone talking about it in public I nerd out and join in
Idk what this is, but im gonna watch it because you are the only youtuber that actually makes good iceberg videos. Cheers!
I am pleasantly surprised I learned something new. Thanks for the content.
Im not that far into the iceberg, but it’s refreshing to watch an iceberg where there’s stuff I already know
This is amazing!
Finally !!! Can’t wait to rewatch this at least a couple of times.
HELL YEAH BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
Thanks for great video favorite part is the Grand servant part!
Nice video dude. Actually learned some things.
Hey! Great content as always! I’ve been thinking a lot about whats left to make icebergs about (sense you’ve covered nearly all the topics I’ve really wanted to see now). I believe I’ve thought of something good however.
In your Lego iceberg you referenced how old you were and it turns out we are about the same age, so I’m hoping you’ll share a similar interest in these topics. I’m thinking an Animal Planet or History Channel iceberg could potentially be very interesting? I have really found memories of the programs that aired in the 90s and early 2000s, the decline of the channels is also pretty interesting to me. I might be alone in this, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to mention.
Keep up the incredible work! No pressure to do anything with this either btw lol
One more point about Jesus: apparently if he IS summoned the world will end because it's the second coming of Christ.
Now THIS is what I need in my life!(been waiting for one in general since your 1st Transformers iceberg) Although a fate iceberg did exist before....it was practically nothing(compared to this anyway.) And I'm glad a better now exists.
You warned us about mispornunciation. Still, my body wasn't ready for that Tsukihime.
Or shirou, or cu chulainn, or einherjar, or any of the other pronounciations. Or the fact that he kept saying "magic girl" instead of magical girl, which is weird
This a treat from the goat right here
great video
On the topic of Gender Swap, actualy most genderbend fate servants was always that Gender when they were still alive, But for some reason or another they were remembered as Male by History
The case that male actually genderbended to female are surprisingly not that much, And most of them is through possessed female body
Ahh I am so happy about this! Regarding your pronunciation: don’t worry about it. People nitpick too much. (:
I have no clue about Fate besides Saber and the femboy but I'll watch this, just because I love Pigpen's iceberg videos
I somehow understand this.
I feel like I'm walking into a place I shouldn't go.
Im kinda sad this icberg didnt go over the "unnamed female servant" in Fate/Requiem
Who, going of of description, is 100% the Rainbow Serpant from Australian native folklore
Look I know nothing about this topic but I'm gonna watch this anyway because I love your iceberg videos and I also love diving deep into things that I have no connection to whatsoever
I was really hoping for a dedicated entry on Notes. I have a weird fascination for its very different setting and lore, and I think it’s quite obscure, being so seemingly disconnected from everything else in the Nasuverse.
In contrast, I believe it’s the most connected to everything else in the Nasuverse, as the world of Notes is the dead end that humanity in all of the series reach if they keep polluting the environment. The world of Fate/Extra, Fate/Requiem and even Prisma Illya are getting there pretty fast.
No idea what this is but I like your videos so I'll watch anyway, might learn something
Thanks for doing something obscure! could you do an assassins creed iceberg?
So, I ended up watching this iceberg specifically because I’m not a Fate fan, but instead a small-time history and mythology nerd. I just wanted to see exactly how insane this franchise could be, since my first exposure was seeing the Mad Emperor Nero, who infamously played his lute as the city of Rome literally burned around him, as a highly popular waifu a few years back and just thinking “Oh, Japan…”
Needless to say, I had no idea how much of a rabbit hole the Fate franchise was until watching this iceberg video.
Lol I fucking love Nero but also she could have a version that’s more historically accurate because she can be summoned as a rider though we’ve never seen this in any game, anime or visual novel she says it’s her most powerful class so it could have her be like how she is in real life history
Aye pigpen is back with another iceberg woo hoo I love these videos
I could have missed this, it is 2 hours long, but I'm kinda surprised you didn't bring up the existence of the Atlas Insistute and more specifically Black Barrel when talking about ways a servant can be killed.
Funny thing there actually a male version of Mordred in the prototype universe that appears in the drama cd with a voice who apparently yandere to Arthur
I've been wanting to get into Fate forever. My only knowledge comes from Grand Order.
When I heard you were doing one, I got really excited for it. Love your work as always.
its a genuine talent being able to mispronounce the name of mostly everything so consistently, idk if its a bit or not.
1:09:17 They still didn't left the TYPE-MOON franchise though. In Summer 2023 ufotable will release Witch on Holy Night movie, which is one of the five early major visual novels in the TYPE-MOON franchise.
Ah yes, Nikola Tesla. The famous American servant!
He lived most of his life in America and gained citizenship there. He’s a Serbian American
I'm surprised this franchise didn't melt its own iceberg by how much of a hellscape it is
Can't wait to watch this so that I'll understand the franchise even less than I currently do
Nice video dude and yeah Fate is kinda complex.
should do more type moon content somehow i was recommended this channel from this vid
Gonna call it tsukihime "sookie hiyme" from now on
Cringe pronunciations aside, great iceberg! Getting into Fate recently so this will be fun to watch as I make my way through the various works
A video about Fate and almost 2 hours long?
*I expected nothing less.*
there’s actually one final class you missed known as the voyager class named after the foreigner servant voyager who is currently the only known servant that’s also qualified to be part of the voyager class
Honestly the entirety of fate lore is a rabbit hole on its own
So this is not related to the vid, but I want to let you know that I watched Evangelion because of you. Your icebergs are just so good that I wanted to watch the source material first to fully enjoy your vid. So im glad that you are still doing these even if its stuff I don't know about. Keep on rocking dude!
Agreed
Finally found a video im interested in
Another masterpiece 😀
Fate is such a strange but creative series. It creates so much.
This needs to be a 5 hour video
I think the tldr for the beginning of the video is "its complicated well get to it later"
The way he say tsukihime kills me every time
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS
The dedication you have to some of these is admirable, doing Fate is probably such a massive undertaking. I only watched zero and ubw but always had a lot of interest
I have never heard of this franchise LEETS GOO
Bruh your loss
@@DeadApostleAncestor10
What's a solid starting point??
@@wmascolin everything
I loved the iceburge despite not knowing what fate is about. You did great. I can't wait for the next one. Hope u do God of war video games.
Finally finished it and I am happy you made it. I really enjoyed it. Now part 2.
No thanks
The movie "Oath Under Snow" is really good .
Not a lot of people have watched it
But those who have , have pretty much universally praised it .
Probably because its a prequel to the magical girl spin off , but you dont need to know , enything about the "Main Series" to enjoy it (And i would say you would enjoy it more if you don't or if you masochistically watch all the way through)
Besides the main twist of taking on the powers of the servants instead of summoning them .
Instead of Gil , he gets to summon himself and partially posses the one using his card .
Honestly some of the best fate animes out there have to be Fate/Zero, Oath Undersnow, Lord El Melloi case files and of course the absolute demonic front Babylonia and the Heaven Feel movies
Also love how Waver (Lord El Melloi II) dressed as the AVGN in that one Light novel chapter
I'm not sure if you take requests, but if you wanted to do a short iceberg, you should try to do a Left 4 Dead one.
The d**k thing is no longer canon sadly, Morgan now used the blood of Artoria to make Mordred
I am okay with this retcon
That's way better thing honestly.
Cowardly
The way you pronounce tsukihime made me question my sanity. Great video tho =))
A lot of the (Fate) skits in Carnival Phantasm came from Hollow Ataraxia, so that's a place to look to get your fix
Sader is officially my spirit animal now
Well I've found my obsession for the month, thanks pigpen
Damn man someone's finally made a video about the Fate iceberg which makes abit sense time to send this to my friend lmao
Tsukihime is pronounced: tsu-kee-he-meh
Thank you, I totally loved your fate Iceberg video 😎
What about the Whatever tier shit that's going on Lostbelt 7? Like U-Olga Marie, Tsukihime Dinosaurs, Kukulkan, Daybit's Goal, ORT, 7 Alien Apostles and Malisbury Animusphere goal?
Fran is not gender-swapped. In her lore in FGO, Dr. Frankenstein made the female first before the male one. They just tinkered with the original story of frankensteins monster by what "if" he created the the female first.
Hey Pigpen your iceberg video is Beyond Awesome Hey can you do a X-Men iceberg please 😀😎👍🤘❤
I know the disclaimer at the start, but I found it funny that one the things you mispronounced was El Melloi as El Melloe, like that's not even Japanese my guy.
Do I know literally anything about the Fate series, nope.
I’m still gonna watch a nearly 2 hour iceberg video on it anyway though
Have you watched fate oath under snow. Its one of my favorite fate movies.
*Fuck yes thank you I been waiting for so long for this* 😎😎😎
the best part of the whole video is hearing my mans say " Tsukihaymm " every single time