FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA - Better Than a Stradale or a Speciale?
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2023
- Ferrari 430 SCUDERIA - Better Than a Challenge Stradale, Speciale or even a Pista? DEF | TheCarGuys.tv
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The Ferrari 430 Scuderia is the successor to the mighty Challenge Stradale and is therefore a fire-breathing V8-engined naturally-aspirated special edition that has been lightened, tuned, and track-prepared.
And thanks to fellow UA-camr, @JayEmm on Cars, TheCarGuys has one - for a month!
Which means you get a detailed episode of #DriveEveryFerrari on one of the most highly-regarded race cars for the road ever to come out of Maranello, including a full explanation of all the Scud’s special features, its history, the exterior, the interior, all the technology, a full driving road test and some magnificent straight-piped Beans!
Your spine will tingle as the revs rise to the redline, and together we will discover what makes the 430 Scuderia so special and so undervalued, because yes folks, this is a performance bargain the like of which we may never see again.
So welcome to #DriveEveryFerrari, and the screaming V8 insanity of the 430 Scud…
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Magnificent episode. A veteran Ferrari technician once told me the Scuderia was in his opinion, the greatest Ferrari ever made. This is even against all the exceptional stuff coming out of Maranello today. Of which, he had worked on most personally. That really struck me.
Cool fake story bro.
I’ve heard many people say that. I’ve never driven one but I’ve got an 08 Spider which will have to be good enough for me. My dream would be a 16M.
Hi Damian, I really like your new more comprehensive style. Can’t get enough of all the visual (and intake noise) comparisons. It’s really nice to learn in great detail and emotionally where these cars slot in between their sisters. Your extensive experience between these cars is really showing. Cheers and thanks for sharing all this with us!
Thank you very much
I've re-calibrated a few Scuderia's now, the factory did some very good detailed work on that software, quite a bit different than the 430 including entirely new ABS software and Eldor Ion Sensing module as carried over into the 458. There are big improvements that can be made to drivability and torque too which make the car even more extraordinary to drive without compromising reliability. Great engine!
You do a lot of goof stuff mate, but never respond to any DMS sent your way.
Superb video as ever. The 430 Scuderia is right at the pointy end of my list for greatest cars. You did it justice so thank you!
Much appreciated
Of my 3 Ferraris, this is my favorite one. So much character! I am extremely lucky to own one!!!
Scud owners group
“The fuel gauge is about as reliable as a lookout on the Titanic”. 😂
Superb review !! James has a very high spec Scud there. Very interesting to see how Ferrari changed the engine strut on the carbon upgrade lid to a simple lightweight stick and ditched the hydraulic rams on the standard option lid .... learnt something new with that one.
It’s not even the lightweight full carbon option that was offered in period for the regular F430. The scud version is an aluminium/ carbon hybrid down graded to save costs.
Damian brings back "ribbed for her pleasure" 😂 One of the most hilarious spontaneous CarGuys quotes in the back catalog. Nice call back!
I thank you
Finally, hopefully this will be worth the few hour wait!!! One of the best sounding Ferraris of all time in my opinion
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The sound comparison was brilliant. Challenge Stradale > Scuderia imo. Just…
Love the back to back sound comparisons Damian. Please do more direct comparisons!
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Better than Speciale? No. More fun and exciting to drive? Yes. Last of the analog, old school Ferrari’s. This car represents the “pure” Ferrari experience.
That F1 single clutch automated gearbox in the 430 Scuderia is arguably the best iteration of that gearbox. The driving experience is more raw than the 458 Speciale and much more improved than the 360 Challenge Stradale.
The 458 didn’t use the F1 transmission it used a duel clutch system
@@aaronburberry4656 He never said it did! Still the Scuderia F1 box is more raw, as he said, and enjoyable as the DCT of the 458 (i have only driven the Speciale). Not sure why, but the DCT of the Speciale tries to be a more raw version of the F1 Gearbox of the Scuderia, by beeing more harsh on the upshifts, and not properly applying throttleblips while downshifting, resulting in almost locking up the rear tires while shifting down. in normale driving however, the DCT is way better and smoother. The Scuderia F1 Box on the fast shift mode is just perfect, right amount of rough and harsh upshifting, while perfectly timed blips on the downshifts just sound and feel amazing. driving slow result in headnodding of the driver and passenger
Great video. Special Schumi era Ferrari's will only go up hugely in value.. Cars like these give an experience that no other cars deliver.
Agreed
Amazing video as always! Loved every minute of this series so far and I really appreciate the little bit of Ferrari history in there at the end. Well done and keep up the great work.
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"It's rough as a badger's a$$ in here" - Damian, you have the funniest quips and I love it! Thank you for this marvelous review!
Thank you for watching, my friend
A guy who owned a Ferrari specialist garage once told me the Scuderia 16m was in his top three Ferraris ever, and he had seen them all. With that in mind, I manage to find one and would never get rid of it now …. It’s the best car I have ever driven. It is the perfect combination of raw and analogue (analogue dials, a handbrake) but modern enough tech, and with a brilliant n/a engine which sounds better than anything else I have heard, this car has the whole package. Add pinpoint handling, and superb steering and this I just about the most fun you can have with your pants on …. Or maybe even just the most fun regardless 😂….finally …. That F1 single clutch box …. It is brilliant …. It feels as quick as a 458 dual clutch, and gives you a feel like a manual, with that little ‘breather’ between changes …… to me the Scud is one of the finest modern day Ferrari driving cars …. If you ever get the chance … drive one or own one ….
Epic car, great video. Particularly enjoyed the addition of the POV camera behind your shoulder pointing forwards, that was cool!
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superb review! As a proud owner of the magnificent 430 Scuderia I can only share your driving experience and your appreciation for this car! Each time it gives me goosebumps! Compared to the 458 Spider (my first Ferrari) the 430 Scuderia is raw, noisy, brutal. It's another dimension: the 430 Scuderia is like a F1 track car, you can feel Michael Schumacher's legacy. In comparison the 458 Spider is more every day use, sleek, although also a superb driving experience. I love both cars. But if I had to choose one, it would be the Scuderia. Not least in honour of Michael Schumacher. Keep on fighting Michael!
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Brilliant. Your Ferrari series is going to be reference for anyone wanting to learn about the cars and brand for years to come. I love the old school meets modern f430, preferring it to the brilliant 458, contentious I know, in looks, sound, feel and drive. Mechanics at my Ferrari dealer (one of which just won Ferrari mechanic of the year) believe the f430 to be the best Ferrari. I have a manual coupe with carbon buckets, like a Scud, where you “wear the car”, and near perfect for UK roads. No doubt the Scud is the peak 430 but I love a manual, shame they never did one.
@7:45 the issue is with the carbon headlights, they give off some kind of gas or something and it is what clouds the headlight inners. To fix them you have to split the headlight in half, and at seven grand a pair not many people are willing to take it on!
9:10 if you have the non carbon engine cover it has gas struts
16:45 beep on key removal is because it wants to be left in gear (it has no "park" setting)
“There was a time that was all the money in the world to you, now it’s a day’s pay…” 😀
@@TheCarGuysTV were it so! Very glad to see the car out and getting some love and thanks for looking after it while I was away
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Hi James, I think your car shifts a bit on the slow side compared to others. ua-cam.com/video/5MTr7j8IDLs/v-deo.html
The 430 is extremely pretty in the flesh and is a wonderful bridge between the graceful models before it and the more angular, "modern" (ie date very quickly) models from 458 onwards.
I love the Scud too, but the standard 430 with darker wheels, and in darker colours preferably, is another Ferrari car styling masterclass. Wide looking (and actually wide), elegant, subtly aggressive, timeless.
PS black cars in midday sunlight never look great. Try dusk lighting for darker cars = 😍
(PPS leave the car in 1st and it will beep no longer)
Incredible video! Extremely well done. The 430 Scuderia is one of my favorite modern Ferraris. One day, I'll add one to my stable. Thanks for putting this together.
By far the most interesting and in-depth review of the 430 Scud I've seen! Watched from start to finish, a really engaging video!
Thank you very much, so glad you enjoyed it
What a presentation this has been!! Marvelous!
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Lovely, Lovely, Lovely! Not just the best V8 Ferrari ever made… for me the best Supercar ever made! ❤ more visceral than all the ones coming after this and much better than the ones before. And the best: its the one I drove today with friends… Waiting for another round tomorrow. Ticking in the Garage… 😅
Do tell…
D, you are a B’stard sir! I was just about to go to bed and now I have to watch this video😂
Sorry - and it’s a long one too
@@TheCarGuysTV Hah. No need to apologise mate. It’s a good one and I always enjoy your content.
Awesome video; you can't beat The Beans!
Great review and not a blooper in sight which is a miracle with all that techno-speak!! 👍
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Call me crazy. I tracked my Scud.
Chris Harris agrees that it’s the best of both worlds, still raw but properly quick, and the one he would chose. It will not remain in the reasonably priced column forever.
The scuderia and 997 gt3rs are the best cars made hal time.. sensation of drive, and sound. The brutal change gear, single clucht is top raw experiencie
As always, great informative video. I was wondering why scuds were often 150k more than standard 430s, sure I knew it was lighter and punchier. But you ticked all the boxes. 👍🏼
The picture of James looks like it was taken just after you tod him you had a " moment" with the scud and tractor and a hedge😮
Such a well produced episode! Have always loved the Scud...
Appreciate that, thanks
James' Scud has some insane spec with all the carbons, easily one of my favourite Scud spec. I don't even mind the Nero Daytona paint since it's very metallic-y.
Excellent vid as expected one of my favorite Ferraris
It's strange but I think it's one of the most beautiful ferraris, it's at the top of my list. Great episode 👏
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Always a great video with a 430 Scuderia, thanks guys.
Our pleasure
Brilliant video. Thankyou🤗
I love this drive every ferrari series.
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Thanks so much for the episode, very well done and agree with the comments. I love my Silverstone Grigio Scud all around.
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Oh yes, the noise....
Thank you for bringing us such a treat.
Have to go for a thrash now...
Epic..😎👌
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Nice lend (jayemm) and video guys
Great video about one of my favourite cars ever. I love the scud since i saw it in the magazines when it was launched.
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Great video, i thought 40 mins would be too much, but it was a perfect review of a great car. ps I like that you referred to the GTO as just that, 288 was never officially part of its name, but of course you know that being your favourite 👍🤓
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The 430 scud is the dream
Yes it is
Simply perfect spec, Avio Mettalic with yellow calipers is the only spec that looks better. The valvles opening sounds great. i still prefer the exhaust pops on 458. one thing i didn´t know about the pop sounds on 458 is that they only came on 2011+ models, the 2009 and 2010 ones dont have it, some owners updated their ECU SW versions on 2009 and 2010 models to start poping.
An epic and fascinating episode! Learnt a lot and the pure joy of Drive Every Ferrari continues. Still a 456 or 512TR chap myself 🙂
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Great episode, love the long form!
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Thanks for the great video review once again... btw there is a nice 16M in straststone manchester dealer i ve seen few weeks ago, in Bianco, ex JK car with a speacial plaque ,looks impressive but like you said its v.high price tag!!!
I've been waiting for this!
Awesome Review as always!
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Lovely edition of the 430! Looks great!
Top 5 best Ferrari’s ever made alongside LaF and Speciale
Sounds so good yet with an aftermarket exhaust it sounds bonkers!! One of the best cars ever…
Most underrated and overlooked Ferrari ever, not on the scuderia version.
They sleep so much on it, it will be morr than a unicorn soon.
Probably my favorite Ferrari ever made!
Fantastic review in-depth and coming from someone who has experience and a vast knowledge, top marks. 🤪
Thank you very much
Awesome episode, thanks and Hi from Malta 😎
Hi right back atcha, Alexander
Interesting video about Ferrari and another good video 🚘🚙🚗👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️
We had the Berlinetta 355, and it was indeed screaming. We also had one of the last off the line Lotus Esprit which was just as fast but didnt scream.
Favorite ferrari! Little rough little elegant, full throttle!
Looking forward to James’s suspension update video in the future 😊
This vid should get you to 100,000 subs 🎉
Hoh he hoh! The Scuderia tickles your onions! Especially when it’s screaming like that.
Timeless Beauty 👏🏽 Why is the rear brake light having a fit at 00:42 seconds into the video??
Great video, thanks for chugging on with your mission of driving every Ferrari. A masterful car but I think this was the very start of the era where cars were designed to be all things to all people. Gradually they have progressed to today where they are amazing & perfect but very dull and soul-less. Now we have screaming track car that is also a shopping car, has artificial noise, is more comfortable and far from beautiful. In my opinion, less connected and missing the point. I would rather have an off the shelf raw F40, F50, or 360CS to name a few- designed soley for one purpose.
almost a 100K subs...nice job on this one
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Brilliantly made, and informative video.
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Thank you
As always incredible review! i thought that jay emm's scud was grey.
His previous one was
I think in terms of "bang for your buck" the Scuderia has to be up there when talking about the greatest Ferrari's !!!
Fantastic episode!!
Much appreciated
Who do you know that just lets you drive awesome supercars? I wanna drive this one! One day…
Another great episode, that ends with a feeling of ‘yes I’d love one’ …….but the carbon fibre reference’s grate with me ,particularly at the stratospheric price Ferrari charges , it’s posh Fibre Glass !😭
Thanks for a great video. In my eyes the Ferrari Scuderia is a beautiful car and the sound is wonderful, agree with you that it doesn't beat the sound of the challenge stradale. But easier to find a Scuderia for sale than a challenge stradale.
True
Really enjoyed this episode, very well put together with thought and the presentation style treads a great line between spod and joker. You should be on the Beeb.
Have to say I prefer the 430 looks over the 360. The headlights on those are so kit car. This car does demonstrate how Ferrari honed their NA V8s up to the pinnacle or the 458. Speciale
In a parallel universe Ferrari did a 4.8 V10 engine that rev'd to 10 000 of course .
Imagine a road going Ferrari V10 ... weeps silently. They were obsessed with V12 though, kept using them in F1 even when others went to V10. Then Lambo did one and so Ferrari could not see to be following them.
The rossa colored ones look very kit car-ish. The Argento ones look a lot better in person.
Great review Keep up the good work
Thanks
this is a lovely vid, what a car that 430 Scud is. The thing that never ceases to amaze me, is the use of cheap trainer material in the seats, I suppose that’s to help the driver/passengers sweaty back to dry out sooner 😂, from those poo pants moments with all that torque
The Car Guys & JayEmmOnCars are my favourite channels. Compulsory viewing. Would you guys ever consider doing a combined episode.. maybe about which cars 2 go dogging in the forest with...
Bernard from Australia 🦘
Yes, I think we would. We’ve already done a Q&A on James’ channel, but I’m sure a road trip could be on the cards…
Agree, it’s not pretentious either, like some channels I won’t mention. Do check out that channel “number 27” especially his “Influenzo” and Ratarossa
Bloody good episode Damian
Thank you very much
Superb video as always gents, one of THE best channels on all of UA-cam, did I hear you correctly Damian, Challenge Stradale has THE GREATEST BRAKES YOU'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED? Of any car you've ever driven? High praise given your seat time in so many legendary cars.
Yep
Those 430's can really scuderia around the track pretty good.
Very adequate to watch this just after the Ratarossa latest video on 430Scud
Thanks Damian and James for some great Sunday morning Ferrari viewing
Great choices despite their age. The 16M is great looker and in that yellow. Che Bella.
nice info...superb car
highly realistic wagging taillight at @0:43
For the beeps: it'll beep at you if key goes into ignition without seatbelt and again if you turn off ignition when car is in N (should be R or 1st). Fix those and no beeps!
savage is the word. and sweet spot it is. I will get one soon I think. TBH I need one
hey Damian , you sold the CS ..?..really ?? that's something i can't understand ! Keep going on , like your video's !
Superb video!
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Brilliant car, one of my favourite Ferrari's. Faster than a 360CS, faster and better dynamically with a much improved grarbox though I agree the engine note not quite as good than the CS. I'd take one of these over a Speciale or Pista as there is some tech here but it doesn't dominate like on the later cars. Great video.
Cheers, Geoff
Brilliant review - especially back to back comparison
If Michael Schumacher was involved in the development it gets my vote ! Another fantastic video Sir. ❤
Thanks, my friend
Fabulous episode again
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1 of my fav Ferraris ,
Nice work on the video.
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This is superb content. Nice one
Thank you
Fantastic review
One of the best ferraris based on “bang for buck”
Thank you
The CS has such a unique sound mostly due to it being five valves per cylinder.
Yeow!! Yer back big lawd 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Beautifully make episode. Makes me miss mine. 😢
They could tidy up the splashes though!
Keep fighting Michael😢
Sweet ride, and almost a full analog driver experience.
Cheap in the UK, 3 for sale in Oz, but 350-370,000pound (A$650-700k). ouch!!