Hi Nomad you have no idea how this video resonates so much with me, i am 32 as well and quit D2 for the same reasons as you. Surely playing other games made things even clearer to me and am glad you came to the same realization with D2. Am not sure you will read my comment but do know that you are not alone feeling this way and always appreciate your honesty and transparency in your videos. If you feel like you want to talk about it further let me know we can connect on discord or whatever ;)
Yeah I think this is just GernaderJake's video/pov repeated with all of the backlash and criticism of that equally valid here. Yes taking a break might well help you feel more positive (if that's what you're seeking of) and criticism may get more views even if you're adverse to said "negativity". However both are subtle or not so subtle ways of avoiding the many valid issues, and instead "Victim" - blaming (nb in quotes, in terms of consumer-blaming) rather than having of an honest look at the DEVASTATING MISTAKES Bungie choices made on an otherwise stellar or potentially stellar game. So, yeah, enjoy your break and your temporary high on return, but all those clangers are there ready waiting for you and everyone else. Those are REAL endemic issues that need real action and real steering of course to correct. Possibly Sony will end up having to do this for better or worse.
Really touching grass would mean to recognize that Destiny 2 is too expensive for what it delivers and stop playing NOW. Instead he wants people to play less for the same amount of money, just like Gernader Jake. I begin to see a pattern here... .
What makes me cry sometimes is it wasn’t like bo2 or titanfall or other games from my childhood that were a blast and I remember only the best times. Cause for other games I just don’t remember when I stopped playing. They’re like frozen in a nostalgic part of my brain. So is destiny 1, but d2 isn’t. I’ve watched all my friends slowly fade away from it. My little corner of the destiny universe is gone. I will always remember my d1 days, I hope I never forget them.
Neither of you are being honest. There's no way you stepped away and felt that other games are doing much better, hardly, at all. If I ever step away, it's not long before I miss the solid game play, long game sessions with friends doing whatever, and just messing around in the game doing any number of fun activities.
@@MarkisWillis - BINGO!!! This right here. I am the first to say D2 has problems. Gameplay loop. Nickel and diming. PVP. Cheaters. On and on and on. THAT SAID, all you need to do is look at the forums and whenever the next “can’t miss, amazing” game comes out people say they’re leaving for that game. (Helldivers is that game de jour) And every single time within a month, the vast majority are back. Sure the new game can be fun and different and a solid investment. But pretty much everybody says “it ain’t destiny,” and can’t hold attention for very long. I firmly believe Bungie is being really mismanaged right now and terrible decisions are being made to negatively impact thr game over and over. But the foundation of the game itself was so good to begin with, the underlying foundational gameplay itself is so much more satisfying than anything else on the market that over time, others just don’t measure up. I say this as somebody who is loving hell divers and thoroughly enjoyed Diablo (for awhile), and had a lot of fun with Starfield. All of them were pretty and new and alot of fun to figure out.
I quit like 6 months ago and can truly say I'm enjoying gaming again. I will probably be done after final shape as well. I've played since D1 beta and just can't enjoy the game anymore, plus my clan/ friends are all off of it too.
you sir are true veteran, hats off to you for sticking around so long, i started a mouth before the taken king launch so i been around awhile myself i finally quit after beyond light ended. the end of an era.
I think you pointed out your problem, destiny is a game best enjoyed with friends. If you have no friends playing it, it will lose alot of its fun factor. Sure you can have fun solo but it is limited to a finite amount. Hanging out with the boys, destiny still feels as fresh as ever, by myself. I can take it and enjoy little bites, bit that's all.
Same here first day D1 beta player and I can say that as we grew up we noticed the bad patterns that bungie have done with the destiny franchise and now I think people are just growing apart from destiny like an old high school friend
@@davidhodge0201I have friends who still play it but I don’t think I can subject myself again to the brain rot that is Destiny 2’s game loop and abuse of FOMO. This is coming from someone who has played Destiny for 7 years and gotten everything they can out of endgame Destiny PVP and PVE.
This was spot on. I hope Final Shape goes out with a bang big enough to bring back friends I’ve lost that no longer play, so we can have one last moment of Destiny magic before walking away for good.
I appreciate how poetic, yet relatable your dialog is. You expressed my exact feeling towards a game, a community I've been apart of since the Beta (2014). I needed this break from destiny. Thanks
I stepped back into the game recently and i really appreciate the little things of the game, the noises trees make blowing in the wind, the general world design and appreciating all the time and effort that went into designing it all. Even the way the different guns sound, at the end of the day individual experience should determine your own outlook on the game.
Destiny is flawed but doing things no other game is lol that simple. I love PvP and PvE, they just need to substantial with content, especially story. Helps give shape to the enemies we battle.
@@cortspadet honestly that's where I feel that playing for a long time adds up I've seen the stories, origins and lore of most enemy types in game and now some we even call allies. There is no lie the game needs to make changes but every individual is different and will find things they enjoy about the game, solo or with friends. TLDR: Do your own thing, have fun and as always, "Eyes up Guardian".
Listening to this... It's making me realize why I stopped. I was forcing the enjoyment and had never realized it. Playing other games - ones I hadn't gotten a chance to because spending so much time in D2 - was so enjoyable. Although, I don't think I'm coming back to the game. I burned myself out in such a cruel manner that it ruined it. I screwed it up so badly. The core memories of Destiny - 1 and 2 - won't leave. But the things that had happened a few months before... I think I realized that it was just time to stop. I haven't touched D2 for months - four at this point. I think it's honestly been for the better. I'm not sticking around for playing The Final Shape, but I still enjoy watching anyone playing it. Times and people change, and I got stuck with memories that just can't be remade. Regardless of whether I still play or not, thanks for all the fun videos, Nomad. Will keep watching until the channel ends.
Yep, 7 months since logging in and I've had a blast playing so many other games. Really not sure if I'll buy or play The Final Shape unless there's some big innovation or a lot of my friends play it, but that seems unlikely since they all quit too.
Thats better actually that you burned yourself out, because you wont really miss it. Myself i quit in Season of Seraph (just before Lightfall) because i could see the writing on the wall. I gues if you still have that itch for D2, Bungie will have an event in April 9 where it will have gear that will take you to current light, and they are bring iconic weapons from D2 (they will be timelocked though, half initially & 1 new weapon per week). For my part i'll just watch a YT playthrough of Final Shape.
Absolutely, I feel this very much. I started playing destiny to get away from hypersweat Enlisted PVP matches, and to hang with friends. Eventually, D2 became the hypersweat game. So when I got burnt out, I picked up Titanfall and Enlisted again, and I began to love games again
@@rkrams1989 I think so at least, as a player with a couple hundred hours into it. Not at all a gacha, its a Gaijin game with a massive tech tree, but no lootboxes. Watch Drewski's video on the game if you want to see it
I’m 54 and just started playing Destiny 2 a couple of months ago. I’ve been having a blast and wish we had games back in the 1980’s like this. The graphics, weapons, maps, all of it it’s crazy. Yes, I suck but I don’t give a good god dam. I play PvP for a while every day and even have had a couple of good games. Life goes by so fast, enjoy it or it will eat you up.
Nomad speaking the truth. I've been away from D2 for almost a whole year for exactly the reasons you said. Too busy to go back at the moment, but solid points about balance. "Time better spent living well" 💯💯💯
Lesson no.1 is definitely something some of the other content creators need to do more often considering the ones I used to watch a year before I quit are still STRICTLY only playing D2 and I have no idea how.
I know for some content creators it's not even about enjoyment - it's purely a fear of losing revenue if they try to branch out. But there are plenty of others who do it because they just straight up wouldn't ever consider a different game from the one they're playing even if they weren't streamers.. and that's so damn foreign to me.
6:55 Really hit home for me. Having to be negative to put food on the table is not a healthy or sustainable way to go through life. I trained for years to do a job that I ended up kinda hating. But I realised what really made me miserable wasn't so much the job as it was continually hearing myself complain about it. Truth is, I think Destiny is basically fine. And it's not like there’s nothing to do... We're just bored of it at this point - AND THATS OK! I've never understood the community's obsession with either "sticking with it" or "quitting Destiny". I've been playing video games for 30 years and I can't remember a single game I've ever "quit". I would just start playing something else. Some games I'd come back and play again - ocasially many many times - and others I'd forget about. I no-lifed D1, met awesome people, and loved it to bits, but D2 I've dropped in and out of many times. Sometimes I'd obsess for a month, then forget about it and come back a while later. And you know what...? It's fine! You don't actually miss that much and you catch up again pretty quickly. So yeah - if you're having fun with it that's great! You dont need to justify yourself to anyone! Likewise, if you've been playing for years and you're bored, that's natural; you dont need to uninstall - just try something else. It doesnt need to be Ride-or Die!
omg I think you sort of just explained what I think the core issue is with the way Bungie (execs) handles Destiny 2: Players started chasing that "high". That became the core community of the game. And then the game switched to a content model & structure matching this phenomenon of chasing past "highs". And boom: recipe for the burnout machine. Random joy, secrets & excitement have been replaced by routine, expectancy & reliability. I can't remember when the last time was that I got a loot drop that I didn't know about in advance through a TWAB preview. And due to the API, & the way social media algorithm works, any unannounced drop will eventually reach our eyes/ears ahead of time anyway. I stuck around because of the lore. I've been reading the grimoire cards since the launch of VoG in D1 vanilla. I loved when there were revelations to be concluded by piecing together different bits of lore, hinting at larger worldbuilding. I loved discovering the mysteries of Destiny's universe. But more importantly, I loved the conversations & speculations around them. It's not that the mysteries are gone, but rather, they've been oversimplified now. You can see them from miles away, on conveyor belts, racing towards you. Some story threads, that were part of the Light & Darkness storyline, have been pushed to the sides, to make the conclusion of the story line be just about the Witness. The complexities & depth of Destiny's universe has been shrunk, & talking about it's worldbuilding is just not exciting to me anymore. And that's sad, because none of the other games' worldbuilding intrigued me as much as Destiny's did, & I still haven't found a replacement.
Great video! I too just came back from a month away from the game and it definitely made me reflect on why I play it, and the point you made about the memories is spot on. Here's hoping TFS is a banger and we can all make it out of the content trenches!
I almost didn't watch this because I'm so, so, so weary of how prevalent this "negativity puts bread on the table" problem has become on UA-cam, but it's you, so I did. But scrolling through my UA-cam feed has started to feel like fighting through a crowd of people yelling about how I'm doing everything wrong and everything is trash. For me, Destiny is still fun. It's UA-cam that's killing me. I've got to figure out how to change my algorithm or maybe just bookmark Lindsay Nikole's channel and call it a day. I still enjoy Destiny. Watching all these content creators, I know I don't want to make it my job. I do wish you every good thing and I hope you find the fun again.
With you, I'm finishing up the DLC and then retiring from gaming as a whole. IRL is finally moving the way I want, and it's going to start getting in the way. Plus, gaming isn't fun to me anymore. I wish everyone well in the game and IRL.
Nothing beats that dopamine hit of playing a new game for the first time, and genuinely having fun. Still remember that feeling of playing on First Light in the D1 beta and thinking "this is FUN". Always good to play new games and get a change of scenery every once in a while.
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT! I’ve been saying that the biggest issue in D2 isn’t D2 or Bungie but the echo chamber of negativity within the community for months!
I'm sticking around, if you move on and make new stuff I'll watch it. As much as we all enjoy Destiny, it's going to end one day, and the healthy thing to do is move on, I've gotten to where I don't play as much anymore, I still enjoy this game, but I want to enjoy other things as well. Appreciate everything you've done Nomad, and even if you think you were negative, you were just speaking your feelings on how you feel about this game and it's ok to be passionate about the things you enjoy and want it to be better.
This video is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been spending all of lightfall thoroughly enjoying my time in destiny, yet feeling suffocated by a community trying to convince me it's awful. I've felt barrated by the Tiktok hivemind that I should stop playing Destiny and play Helldivers 2 or Elden Ring instead when those games simply aren't as fun to me. This constant blaring of the mainstream video game audience making me feel like I'm somehow wrong for finding good things to say about destiny and finding flaws in those other games gets really exhausting. Disconnecting from every one of these larger communities probably really is the healthiest thing for me to do, and that is exactly what I will be doing.
Gaming has become so much more fun since quitting destiny about 10 months ago,I’ve played and enjoyed many more games from my backlog and it made me realise what a chore (almost like a second job)it was to play destiny.
@@dukenukem19888I don’t think that’s entirely on the player. Most of the seasonal quests now are; Listen to dialogue, do mission, do playlist stuff, do that mission again, listen to dialogue, see you next week. Hell even some of the campaigns make you go do busywork just to pad out the playtime. The game is great but that doesn’t make the encouraged gameplay loop feel any less like a chore.
It's definitely true that disconnecting yourself from online discussions surrounding anything you enjoy, will allow you to enjoy that thing for longer. And that's not to say that by looking at why it's actually bad, and agreeing with that it's bad, means that you're not thinking for yourself, and just taking other people's opinions. It's merely just a matter of multiple heads being better than one. So by staying ignorant of the issues, you'll come to realize them a lot slower than if you look up what the hundreds of thousands of heads are thinking and analyzing. I think back to my first two years in Genshin Impact, my first gacha game. I had no idea what I was doing back then, and so, many others were ahead of me by a long shot. But I was still enjoying the game despite that. Only once I eventually did get involved in the discussions, learning the game faster, realize why certain things are bad, etc, did it affect my enjoyment with the game. I got burnt out faster, probably due to having gotten better at the game, and spoiling the fun of learning for yourself, in combination with being aware of more of the game's issues for long periods of time, with no improvements being made by the developers. TL;DR; Ignorance is bliss. I think for future games, I'm going to ignore any online discussions, and just enjoy the game for myself, even if it's wrong. I want to see for how much longer a game can be enjoyed when played this way.
The thing is with gacha games, the story is the easy part. But at some point you need to prepare for the second season, since the game will get harder. Unless you always want to do the optional content, which means using the meta or paying to get awesome units (if you are unlucky with your rolls). But in this case the expectations are different (story vs optional content). So gacha games, while very good, need to be approached with this mindset. What is your end goal, what are you prepared to do. For instance for Genshin, it can be the first area. Or the second or the third. In the end, your worst enemy is yourself, especially if you are dropping money into the game. Or you have an addictive personality, for example must collect everything or must conquer everything or you like to show off. Online games that emphasize ginding (looter shooters like Destiny or Borderlands, hack & slash games like Diablo) need to be approached with the same mindset. I dont know what you did with Genshin Impact that affected your enjoyment, but at least you learned something about yourself, what to avoid in the future (perhaps in a different game), or perhaps in Genshin impact itself.
Uhhh very few of us are streamers. Everybody acts like they were forced to play destiny when in reality, those people lacked self control. I still enjoy the game because I have the incredible ability to play other games. Every Destiny video has comments like "I quit destiny 2 since X and (fill in the blank)". It's not a badge of honor, these people just quit being an addict.
just subbed to you, this popped up in my rec, this is a wonderful video thats absolutely not exclusive to d2. i had a similar experience with league of legends and to a lesser extent old school runescape. i no longer play league (after 10 ish years of addiction thats a cool thing to say im ngl), and ive learned to balance osrs better nowadays, so im not married to exclusively one game till im absolutely burnt. ill also mention, i did at one point try to get into d2, and it was very fun (i was a void lock), but i was extremely lost storywise, and the gameplay itself didnt hook me enough despite being amazing, i need more than just good gunplay. anywho, back to the vid.
I have not booted the game since 5/23/23 (I know because it was the day after my son's birthday which was on a Monday last year). I played the intro mission for the season that Tuesday, saw it was more of the same thing and uninstalled. I'm 100% done. I'll watch someone play The Final Shape on twitch to find out what happens, but I have zero interest in spending any more of my money, or especially, any more of my time in Destiny. I can't believe it's been almost a year.
Part of the issue with becoming a content creator, your favorite game becomes work and you wind up hating it/not enjoying it. Obviously Bungie has had issues with Destiny 2 for a long time now, but as someone who doesn't no life the game, it has never been bad to a point of "burn out" for me. I have about 700 hours on D2, but I also play other games throughout the week. I personally have never seen how content creators could play this game 8+ hours a day as it just simply doesn't(and has never) have the content to support that kind of playstyle and there really isn't enough good loot to grind for. While Bungie has sucked for several years now, I think a lot of this also falls on the creators who just no life these games and don't branch out. When you tie your entire brand to one game, you're going to eventually burn out unless you find a way to balance your life and habits away from the game. You do anything for 8+ hours a day and you're going to have burnout/get bored at some point.
Thanks for this video... I'm 28 and the last few weeks/months have been difficult. I don't enjoy Destiny 2 anymore, in fact, I rarely enjoy playing other games. I don't know what is happening to me. That surge of adrenaline and joy is simply not there and I don't know what to do to feel better. I don't even enjoy my job anymore. Back in the day, I was so eager and active about learning new things but now, everything feels like a burden. I do things only because I HAVE to, rather than doing things because I WANT to do them. Tbh I don't know even know how to express myself. Anyway... Feels good to open up and talk about these things. You'll not lose a subscriber, I promise
This is alarming. Plenty of D2 players with such problems, including me. Brain damage from an addiction or something. Though I do enjoy the other single player games from my backlog I’m trying out right now. I regret not spending time on them when I bought them.
Been playing since D1 alpha, it's time to move on boys... I quit the game about 4 months ago and I enjoy playing video games again! I will return one last time for the Final Shape, then that's it for me and alot of my friends and clan members are saying the same thing. It's been 10 years and I had fun, we all had fun didn't we? But 10 years is a long time and alot of things have changed since then, let's be honest with ourselves Bungie isn't Bungie anymore... this isn't Halo: Reach or Destiny 1: Taken King. This is the reality of gaming that we are now seeing, death is inevitable and for a gaming studio as large as this one it is a slow DECAY. I will forever cherish the memories Bungie has brought me throughout my entire life I am 21 years old so this studio has been releasing banger after banger since before I was even born! But all good things must come to an end as they say... see you one last time in the Final Shape ladies and gentlemen, let's finish the fight. "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." - Dr. Seuss
Bet they will not sunset half of the game and not microtransaction the game to death. Also bet they will release more weapons and costumes that will not be 20 bucks a pop. Companies and developers that listen will always outlast ones that just tell you what you want to hear
@@CazadorHex That's probably because every update shakes things up a ton, unlike D2. The parkour system added way back,the second dream,Mechs,Nemesis system,New frames, the railjack system, Kahl of duty,Zariman update, New war hitting the "Together we fight, Together we fall" type story. Duviri being a Roguelite Dark Souls like system. Then the 1999 stuff, man in the wall enemies, duviri enemies, and almost every type of weapon under the sun and adding more in march 27. I find it weird how Warframe can just poof new enemies to existence, meanwhile the shadow cabal is just the 4th reskin? of cabal.
World of Warcraft (2004) EVE Online (2003) League of Legends (2009) Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012) Dota 2 (2013) Path of Exile (2013) Final Fantasy XIV (2013) Warframe (2013) Rainbow Six Siege (2015)
Playing a game for fun... how dare you ;-) Edit: Sustained happines is a dragon you'll be chaising 'till you die. We humans are not built for that. All we can aim for is a state of what some would call zen.
I played the souls series to quit. The games made me realize that difficulty doesn't make something unfun, and that I should also begin trying new games. I beat the arkham trilogy, beat FF 15 and 16, and I'm gonna replay FF7 Remake and beat Rebirth. I play Helldivers 2 for my live-service kick and play Destiny 1 for that little itch. I'm gonna play Final Shape and call it a day. I'm done with Destiny 🎉
I quit Destiny 2 right before Witch Queen, big life stuff happened. Didnt touch any games for 6 months... And its been the best decision for enjoying games that I've ever made. I've played so many games from my back log and have actually FINISHED so many titles. Nothing beats the feeling of actually completing a full game. I realized how much I hate the "endless evolving storyline" and enjoy shorter, more detailed and meaningful story and characters.
I did it with Warframe, World of tanks, Warthunder and Destiny 2. Live games become "worse". It may not be because of the live service. You just don't get the kick anymore, Get annyoed with the community. Same will happen with Helldivers 2 - after a few hundreds, mabe thousand of hours. I know this now, I'm old... :D
As a WoW player of well over 10 years at this point, your lesson 2 rings especially true to me. I still have fun in that game, in spite of the negativity, because I don't concern myself with it. Cataclysm and Pandaria were two of my all-time favorite expansions, contrary to what you hear, because I don't let others tell me what is or isn't fun for me. Which is also why I'm still enjoying D2 and loving having another extra long season. I have so much going on outside of video games that 3 months is HELL to try and get everything done and often I'll neglect things irl just to add a few more hours in game to try and get all the content finished.
The biggest reason I left was the story. I am so sick of them removing previous expansions/seasons, so I was very lost when I came back at the end of WQ and the start of LF. D1 base story was broken up, so when TTK came out with a solid story, I was so happy. RW in D2 was so satisfying (that it was a story, the story itself was meh) but I left shortly afterwards. Second reason I left... the price tag to play the entire game. $120 for a full expansion experience? No thank you. The Battle Pass mech in Live Service games was the worst idea. Plus, most of the DLC is found in some other DLC you can end up spending $500+ because they were not clear on what is in each DLC. I just cannot stand it any more because I have spent more $$$ here than any other game I have ever played.
Its funny tbh. I started with Destiny 1 and consider myself a massive, MASSIVE casual. I quit Destiny 1 after the initial grind fest. Came back for destiny 2 initially and basically immediately quick back when there was a leveling system. I ended up coming back for beyond light extremely casually. I ended up day 1'ing witch queen after seeing the hype and pre-ordered lightfall only to quit before even actually starting the story for lightfall. After that I thought I was done. It was always the grind that would turn me away. After Lightfall I got into ARPG's like PoE and sunk in over a thousand hours into it. Recently took a hiatus from PoE and tried helldivers, and then from helldivers went to exoprimal, about 20 hours in warframe which led me back to..... The thing about Destiny from a casuals perspective is that there really isnt any other pve shooter that feels as good. Not Helldivers, Not Exoprimal, not Warframe. Trust me when I say I totally understand the absolute frustration and rage from the hardcore/end game players of the game (being I'm a hardcore end gamer in PoE). But when you look at it from shiny noob lenses, from a newcomer, or just a fresh set of eyes, D2 is an absolute banger of a game. It just feels so damn good. It really is a shame all the stuff that needs to be improved especially for people who want to main the game. The model of the game is really difficult to pull off. You cant have seasonal content that feeds you bread crumbs in an ARPG and expects you to keep coming back with such an absolute RNG fest of a run. Thats where a game like PoE shines. Yes there is extremely rare loot. But there is a trade system and there is ways for you to get the stuff. The "seasons" have you reset your character completely. There technically is an overarching story for the game as well even though you are resetting and making a new character every time. Idk how to explain it. Like yes (even from my very own perspective) I know the end game for D2 has let a lot of people down. But man when you leave and come back to it as a casual you can truly appreciate the gunplay they have for the game. It really is a bittersweet disappointment of a game. Bittersweet because you know the unequivocal potential, and where it solidifies itself in one aspect. But then you think about the other passionate dev teams of other studios, and how if they got their hands on a goldmine like D2 (Helldivers team, Larian, Fromsoft etc.) they would put their absolute all into it. They would add all kinds of new species, subclasses, lore, loot etc. Obviously the comparison is incomprehensible. I'm just saying you can tell that bungie as a company just fell to corporate greed and it shows in their games. Developers at the end of the day are at the mercy of the people that have stake in the company. Reading up on the state of D2 (after having about 50 hours in the game this past week) its really so sad. The devs have been begging the overlords of bungie to allow them to fix the game to bring players back. At the end of the day Bungie is just another corp in a sea of corps that decided to screw the devs, screw making a good game, and screw their fans that supported them in making them as huge as they actually are.
I think the biggest deterioration of my love for destiny came from playing and trying to justify continuing to play, PVP. The PVE in this game is incredibly fun, i like playing it with my friends, I love doing it, Raids are fun, dungeons are fun, GMs are fun, getting my triple hundy stats was fun. Playing trials? Spending hours upon hours screaming at my screen, raging, getting mad, burnt out, tired, all for a ship, sparrow and ghost shell. After getting two of the three, then the skimmer came out, I ended up deciding to quit trials for good, especially after realizing the reason why i ever flawlessed on my own in the first place was because of the "crutch" Weapons that the community universally loathes, I feel no satisfaction in what i did, i feel like i never improved, i just cheesed. However, playing with my buddies in PVE is always nice. i'll love this game for that, and probably wont ever be burnt out.
I had no idea so many people can’t juggle multiple games at once alongside Destiny 2 lol. I still love the game and play it atleast 4 times a week, but I also play Xenoblade3, HellDivers 2, Sonic 06 project, and Tekken 8. I feel that the main issue a lot of people have is balance. You shouldn’t force yourself to enjoy anything, just play when you feel like it. Notice how I don’t play any other FPS games cause that medium gets stale if that’s all you play. Get some variety, hang out with friends every so often, get a hobby and enjoy your game when you want to. I do all this with a full time job, a puppy, and a lady. Balance my friends, balance.
I have no Connection to destiny 2 or shooters in general, so dunno why I clicked on this Video, BUT... this video really hit home for me! For me it was Guild Wars 2. I played it almost exclusively for years and as time went on I just became more and more frustrated, till I just stopped playing and was really bitter, almost hated the game. Switched games around, found new communities new hobbies, new games to mess around in. When I came back to my old "home" I didn't feel the same connection as back then, but I had fun again. I enjoyed my time in the game after so long! The one thing that changed for me in gaming is... I don't get to involved in Communities anymore. Like you said: to much input from outside just isn't healthy for a relationship to a game.
The big point is the "hyperconnection" of a game. Even D1, which I just played by myself or with a few friends here and there. There are a lot more "good memories" of it than D2. But if I'm truly being honest to myself, D2 has as many or even more (longer lifespan and playing on pc with friends that dont have consoles or had an xbox instead back in D1) than D1. The deal is that in D2, youre far more connected than ever and it takes a toll. Fomo, metas, content creators with guides for everything, no mysteries, nothing. And, of course, the complaining about the game's problems, that reach a new level because of this hyperconnection. Then you play another game thats less connected (or just new like helldivers 2) and everything changes. Its just like how every game becoming a live service, or every game having battle passes and seasons, etc. ruin them. They all start to compete for your undivided attention or they will fail as a live service/batlle pass/seasonal game. And time is a limited currency that we cant buy more.
My guy, Destiny 2 fell off WAAAAAY back. In fact I'd argue it died after forsaken. New light just made everything worse and anyone who stuck by it after that is a fool.
My man, you're taking a coward's way out. If D2's criticisms were loud enough when it mattered, things wouldn't have come to this. There is no balance to be had when the issues that the concerned part of the playerbase voiced for years eventually dragged down the game and now threatens to drag down the studio with it. It is clear that if Bungie spent all the money D2 earned on D2, then D2 would have lived and thrived, but no, they wasted that money on developing 2-3 other games and then fired the people who earned all the money to begin with. The only right way for any person with integrity was to put your foot down and quit when it mattered, and never come back. By staying with the game even longer you're just helping Bungie's toxic management ride their way to the golden helicopter made out of Sony payouts (for the only successful business plan they executed in past 5 years: fooling Sony into buying their studio), and then watch as the rest of the devs lose their livelihoods as the studio sinks. There is no middle ground here. If Sony doesn't fire Bungie execs NOW, they will leave Bungie only when there's no longer a way to save it. And the only chance we as a community have to effect that is to stop playing NOW, not after the final shape, NOW. Otherwise your cowardly "balance" narrative is no better than Datto/Reppo's aggressive toxic white-knighting that has allowed the execs to get the studio and the game to this point.
It´s not just you getting older, but you not experiencing new good things. I was sitting there multiple times thinking i am bored of games but then games like Elden Ring come around ever so rarely and i am hooked and i cannot stop anymore. And i am around your age aswell Nomad. The best way to "Deal" with it is to look forward to new things and get excited. Of course Destiny will never hit as hard anymore. Same goes for Elden Ring for me now that i´ve put over 150 hours into it. But a new game might do that again and again and i am all for it. Life moves on, time moves on and so should everyone. Cherish what good you had and make sure more of this will happen in the future.
When a relationship is good, both sides benefit well. When it gets bad, that's where it will be tested the most. These past months have been eye opening for many players, that the relationship that they have with Destiny 2 has been toxic after all the time that they have been together now. I have been disillusioned to the beauty of Destiny 2 since season of the worthy and have remained a skeptic. All my feelings and conclusions were confirmed when lay offs hit, Final Shape got delayed, and Lightfall was a flop. Final Shape is pretty much the end of Destiny 2 and whether we wanted it or not, Joe Blackburn will leave after, much of the original Destiny 2 team is working on Bungie's other projects like Marathon, and seasons are turning into episodes which means content is going to wind down. I took a break from Destiny 2 and played Palworld and Helldivers 2, never have I ever had fun in such a long time before. Recently I have been getting back into Final Fantasy 14 and continuing on in the story and has been very refreshing and a better experience than before.
I've played since D1 beta, and I finally quit last year. First time I played, I was surprised as hell there were 87 days left in the season pass as of playing at the time. I only did 3 strikes and immediately remembered why I stopped. It's just the same thing over and over again for little to no beneficial reward whatsoever, with nothing new or fun.
I'm kinda the opposite to a lot of the comments. I'll play other games for a bit but then they always seem to get kinda boring or stale quickly. Then I start D2 back up again and I'm like wow, this is still so so good. Even with the flaws you just can't beat the gameplay.
I think the real challenge that holds destiny back is the constant power grind... Also WORKING. (And it is work for anyone who can't play hours at a time) to be able to then go play end game content is such a waste of people's time. It does not respect the audiences time
As a D1 Beta vet, ive been a solo player since the beginning. Ive loved the game through its ups and downs, and it was a huge part of my childhood and teen years. Ive never experienced a raid or dungeon, or many of the late game high-tier activities. Unfortunately this game has become like a subscription, and i can no longer afford it, so im going to get Final Shape to give myself a send off, then ill be leaving.
wow i stopped playing this only a couple months after release, just stumbled on this on yt and legitimately did not know so many people still played lmao. google says 30,000+ concurrent players wtf why would you do that to yourselves? lol
Dude i realized that after i left the game the entire game was centered around trying to keep my attention but i always tell myself the same thing that the old Nintendo ceo used to say "if it isn't fun why bother". I loved the dungeons but not everything can be centered around horde based things and i was happy when they announced the horde........but it had a timer and who cares about all these craftable weapons when I've been using the same thing for about a year absolutely decimating all bosses solo in my dungeons. And like most d2 players i explored and found Warframe and dude i can have a custom area suited to my need like a whole liveable area to test things out and everything and i was shocked that everything was free in Warframe
I come back to Destiny every once in a while to see how things are. I don't really watch videos on it, I try to avoid discourse over it on social media, etc. After stepping away like I have, I realize the only thing that kept me playing was two thing: -The want for things to be like they were -My clanmates I don't really have anyone to game with, especially outside of Destiny. But Destiny has my clanmates who do get on every once in a while. So I would stay on the game so I wouldn't have to game alone. But eventually I couldn't do it anymore and needed to leave the game. And it was the best decision I could've made. I'm still working on it, but I'm enjoying gaming again. And with all of these new indie games being released, it's a greater time than ever to play new games. Destiny is always going to have a special place in my heart because of the memories I have and the milestone it represented. But I think after The Final Shape, my time as a Destiny player is likely over. I'm growing up, and the game has grown up in a different way that doesn't fit me, anymore.
taking a step away makes me not want to play like it's an addiction that i overcame and don't really see its value anymore. this really isnt a good situation. i love destiny a LOT but like smoking i cant really say that i want to do it because it hurts my lungs to play. big tobacco (bungie) needs to take the addiction out of their smokes and make something that players will want to smoke. also i could take this analogy further and say warframe is like vaping. it's not healthier but like its a choice you got and it tastes pretty good at least (idk ive literally never msoked before just seen it from family)
Playing a game for that long will def make it become stale. You just have to let the good memories remain as they are and not try to force new ones I feel.
Hey Nomad. Long time viewer here. I just wanted to say that I empathize with a lot of what you said here. I've been playing D2 as my main game for way too long and I've felt it was time for a change. I always hoped that they would bring things to a definitive end, but their episodic model seems to suggest otherwise. If I'm going to get the perfect ending to Destiny that I've always wanted, I'm going to have to write it myself. I do believe TFS is going to be my final DLC, and I'd like to bug all my old Destiny friends to join me for one last fire fight. Together, I hope we can finish a story we started 10 years ago. Here's to the perfect ending. The one we choose, not the one we're given. Thank you for your words, and I hope these words find you well.
I mained Destiny since the D1 beta came out, and finally gave it up a couple weeks after lightfall came out. I still jump on time to time to send out clan invites (site never works for me) but that's about it. I just get inundated with 7+ pop ups about all the same shit that I've already played and done, plus whatever latest expansion they're trying to sell. I can't get myself to play it anymore. The same tedious seasonal grind. The dripfed story. The constant rotation of doing X activity X amount of times per character, per week. The games foundation is solid, the gunplay phenomenal. They just aren't innovating enough, and it's been that way for years. I had enough and moved on to other games, permanently.
I agree with you here, but having more than one game is nearly impossible with budgets. Since every game has a battle pass, is live service, etc etc, if you wanna play more than one game and get the fullest experience, the cost is too high. I could spend $100 for the year and get every battlepass, exotic and all other content through playing. But now I'd have to do the same with every game I play. It's too much
so like.. people don't.. hop around and play other gmes?? you guys know its.. okay to go play other games, right?? you dont *have* to be a slave to that rise and grind mentality. New content? log in, get some hours, then go play something else.
This is my first video I've seen from you, but I truly appreciate this message, and this can apply to so many things outsides of gaming and Destiny as a whole, it's just pure simple living, I've found myself mentally stuck on that same depressive, cynical loop and this video was a nice breath of fresh air for me today, thank you for making this and sharing your experiences, I hope you keep achieving that fulfillment for as long as possible. I'm hoping I can do the same for myself with trying to find a career that won't leave me feeling like a husk of a person anymore lol.
I really appreciate how honest and level headed you are. You’re such a wonderful part of the Destiny community, whatever part that looks like in the future.
Really hope you’re not done when Destiny is done. There are other games (maybe Marathon) that I’d like to see you cover and someday Destiny 3 will be out and I want to see you cover that
I'm exactly in the same spot. I stopped playing D2 in late November and played other games. I feel much better for taking that break, and I'm not touching D2 until the next expansion.
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U can hop on Warframe, Palworld, or Helldivers for a bit. Kick back and relax my guy, and have fun.
Just no.
Hi Nomad you have no idea how this video resonates so much with me, i am 32 as well and quit D2 for the same reasons as you. Surely playing other games made things even clearer to me and am glad you came to the same realization with D2. Am not sure you will read my comment but do know that you are not alone feeling this way and always appreciate your honesty and transparency in your videos. If you feel like you want to talk about it further let me know we can connect on discord or whatever ;)
I think I'm gonna try this out. Looks clean!
Yeah I think this is just GernaderJake's video/pov repeated with all of the backlash and criticism of that equally valid here. Yes taking a break might well help you feel more positive (if that's what you're seeking of) and criticism may get more views even if you're adverse to said "negativity". However both are subtle or not so subtle ways of avoiding the many valid issues, and instead "Victim" - blaming (nb in quotes, in terms of consumer-blaming) rather than having of an honest look at the DEVASTATING MISTAKES Bungie choices made on an otherwise stellar or potentially stellar game. So, yeah, enjoy your break and your temporary high on return, but all those clangers are there ready waiting for you and everyone else. Those are REAL endemic issues that need real action and real steering of course to correct. Possibly Sony will end up having to do this for better or worse.
this man touched grass
fuck yeah
You mean the virtual grass in other games, right?
Fuck yeah
Well….touched sand lol. Not much grass in Dubai.
Really touching grass would mean to recognize that Destiny 2 is too expensive for what it delivers and stop playing NOW.
Instead he wants people to play less for the same amount of money, just like Gernader Jake. I begin to see a pattern here... .
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What makes me cry sometimes is it wasn’t like bo2 or titanfall or other games from my childhood that were a blast and I remember only the best times. Cause for other games I just don’t remember when I stopped playing. They’re like frozen in a nostalgic part of my brain. So is destiny 1, but d2 isn’t. I’ve watched all my friends slowly fade away from it. My little corner of the destiny universe is gone. I will always remember my d1 days, I hope I never forget them.
We also didn't play these games for a decade straight.
We've been playing Destiny literally five times longer than our other golden age games, it's only natural that we'd get burnt out eventually tbh
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Modding old consoles took some of my time.
Because youre playing Destiny for a lot longer than these games.
Even playing D2 for a lot longer than D1.
Taking a step away has made me realize how much Destiny needs to innovate
Too late I stepped back a couple of years ago. You will realize it was a good call.
The enemies are so boring. If they did a massive ai overhaul I’d have a lot more fun playing PvE.
Neither of you are being honest. There's no way you stepped away and felt that other games are doing much better, hardly, at all.
If I ever step away, it's not long before I miss the solid game play, long game sessions with friends doing whatever, and just messing around in the game doing any number of fun activities.
@@MarkisWillis - BINGO!!! This right here.
I am the first to say D2 has problems. Gameplay loop. Nickel and diming. PVP. Cheaters. On and on and on.
THAT SAID, all you need to do is look at the forums and whenever the next “can’t miss, amazing” game comes out people say they’re leaving for that game. (Helldivers is that game de jour)
And every single time within a month, the vast majority are back. Sure the new game can be fun and different and a solid investment. But pretty much everybody says “it ain’t destiny,” and can’t hold attention for very long.
I firmly believe Bungie is being really mismanaged right now and terrible decisions are being made to negatively impact thr game over and over. But the foundation of the game itself was so good to begin with, the underlying foundational gameplay itself is so much more satisfying than anything else on the market that over time, others just don’t measure up.
I say this as somebody who is loving hell divers and thoroughly enjoyed Diablo (for awhile), and had a lot of fun with Starfield. All of them were pretty and new and alot of fun to figure out.
Play any game for a long time then step back from it for the same effect@@Bill-e-Goat
The headboard for your bed looks like an ice cream sandwich.
What if it is
@@AscendantNomadcan I get a bite?
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Now I can't unsee it LMAO 😂😂
I was rushing to the comments to say this exact thing
In the end it really was about the friends we made along the way.
What if you’re a solo player or play with your family
@@BuffGenji 💩 🧠 🎉
@@BewitchedNyiok it was a joke… and I usually play destiny with my brothers, lets us do stuff together while they’re away at college
@@BuffGenji Yeah alright that is fair enough 😎👍
And they all quit playing because the game is fuckin stale asf
I quit like 6 months ago and can truly say I'm enjoying gaming again. I will probably be done after final shape as well. I've played since D1 beta and just can't enjoy the game anymore, plus my clan/ friends are all off of it too.
you sir are true veteran, hats off to you for sticking around so long, i started a mouth before the taken king launch so i been around awhile myself
i finally quit after beyond light ended. the end of an era.
I think you pointed out your problem, destiny is a game best enjoyed with friends. If you have no friends playing it, it will lose alot of its fun factor. Sure you can have fun solo but it is limited to a finite amount. Hanging out with the boys, destiny still feels as fresh as ever, by myself. I can take it and enjoy little bites, bit that's all.
Same, brother. D1 beta player as well. I honestly haven't touched the game in over 2 months. Don't be sad it's over, be glad it happened
Same here first day D1 beta player and I can say that as we grew up we noticed the bad patterns that bungie have done with the destiny franchise and now I think people are just growing apart from destiny like an old high school friend
@@davidhodge0201I have friends who still play it but I don’t think I can subject myself again to the brain rot that is Destiny 2’s game loop and abuse of FOMO. This is coming from someone who has played Destiny for 7 years and gotten everything they can out of endgame Destiny PVP and PVE.
This was spot on. I hope Final Shape goes out with a bang big enough to bring back friends I’ve lost that no longer play, so we can have one last moment of Destiny magic before walking away for good.
I appreciate how poetic, yet relatable your dialog is. You expressed my exact feeling towards a game, a community I've been apart of since the Beta (2014). I needed this break from destiny. Thanks
I stepped back into the game recently and i really appreciate the little things of the game, the noises trees make blowing in the wind, the general world design and appreciating all the time and effort that went into designing it all. Even the way the different guns sound, at the end of the day individual experience should determine your own outlook on the game.
Destiny is flawed but doing things no other game is lol that simple. I love PvP and PvE, they just need to substantial with content, especially story. Helps give shape to the enemies we battle.
@@cortspadet honestly that's where I feel that playing for a long time adds up I've seen the stories, origins and lore of most enemy types in game and now some we even call allies. There is no lie the game needs to make changes but every individual is different and will find things they enjoy about the game, solo or with friends.
TLDR: Do your own thing, have fun and as always, "Eyes up Guardian".
I appreciate the hundreds I have to spend to even play 50% of the content lol
Listening to this... It's making me realize why I stopped. I was forcing the enjoyment and had never realized it. Playing other games - ones I hadn't gotten a chance to because spending so much time in D2 - was so enjoyable.
Although, I don't think I'm coming back to the game. I burned myself out in such a cruel manner that it ruined it. I screwed it up so badly. The core memories of Destiny - 1 and 2 - won't leave. But the things that had happened a few months before... I think I realized that it was just time to stop.
I haven't touched D2 for months - four at this point. I think it's honestly been for the better. I'm not sticking around for playing The Final Shape, but I still enjoy watching anyone playing it.
Times and people change, and I got stuck with memories that just can't be remade.
Regardless of whether I still play or not, thanks for all the fun videos, Nomad. Will keep watching until the channel ends.
i agree, i quit after beyond light ended, it felt like a good spot to put it down, tbh i don't even game in general anymore.
Yep, 7 months since logging in and I've had a blast playing so many other games. Really not sure if I'll buy or play The Final Shape unless there's some big innovation or a lot of my friends play it, but that seems unlikely since they all quit too.
Thats better actually that you burned yourself out, because you wont really miss it.
Myself i quit in Season of Seraph (just before Lightfall) because i could see the writing on the wall.
I gues if you still have that itch for D2, Bungie will have an event in April 9 where it will have gear that will take you to current light, and they are bring iconic weapons from D2 (they will be timelocked though, half initially & 1 new weapon per week). For my part i'll just watch a YT playthrough of Final Shape.
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Absolutely, I feel this very much. I started playing destiny to get away from hypersweat Enlisted PVP matches, and to hang with friends. Eventually, D2 became the hypersweat game. So when I got burnt out, I picked up Titanfall and Enlisted again, and I began to love games again
Same
Is enlisted good , I see their adds and they look like a gacha mobile game, is it good
Me too. I also realized PvP is useless in terms of rewards, for the most part
@@Spellington that sounds very good will check it out 👍
@@rkrams1989 I think so at least, as a player with a couple hundred hours into it. Not at all a gacha, its a Gaijin game with a massive tech tree, but no lootboxes. Watch Drewski's video on the game if you want to see it
Nomad brings balance to the force. Or at least the crucible. Well... maybe not that.
I’m 54 and just started playing Destiny 2 a couple of months ago. I’ve been having a blast and wish we had games back in the 1980’s like this. The graphics, weapons, maps, all of it it’s crazy. Yes, I suck but I don’t give a good god dam. I play PvP for a while every day and even have had a couple of good games. Life goes by so fast, enjoy it or it will eat you up.
This is one of the best pieces of content you've ever made. I loved every second of it. Well done, and thank you.
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Per audacia ad astra, wherever you may go. We look forward to seeing you again.
The destiny fan base having life changing journeys while they wait for the next big dlc
Nomad speaking the truth. I've been away from D2 for almost a whole year for exactly the reasons you said. Too busy to go back at the moment, but solid points about balance.
"Time better spent living well" 💯💯💯
Lesson no.1 is definitely something some of the other content creators need to do more often considering the ones I used to watch a year before I quit are still STRICTLY only playing D2 and I have no idea how.
I know for some content creators it's not even about enjoyment - it's purely a fear of losing revenue if they try to branch out. But there are plenty of others who do it because they just straight up wouldn't ever consider a different game from the one they're playing even if they weren't streamers.. and that's so damn foreign to me.
My friend and I took a several month break, best thing we ever did. We now only play when we have a specific thing we want to do.
This is what I started doing and it's SO much better. In the off D2 times I've been enjoying FFXIV and No Man's Sky.
6:55 Really hit home for me. Having to be negative to put food on the table is not a healthy or sustainable way to go through life.
I trained for years to do a job that I ended up kinda hating. But I realised what really made me miserable wasn't so much the job as it was continually hearing myself complain about it.
Truth is, I think Destiny is basically fine. And it's not like there’s nothing to do... We're just bored of it at this point - AND THATS OK!
I've never understood the community's obsession with either "sticking with it" or "quitting Destiny". I've been playing video games for 30 years and I can't remember a single game I've ever "quit". I would just start playing something else. Some games I'd come back and play again - ocasially many many times - and others I'd forget about.
I no-lifed D1, met awesome people, and loved it to bits, but D2 I've dropped in and out of many times. Sometimes I'd obsess for a month, then forget about it and come back a while later. And you know what...? It's fine! You don't actually miss that much and you catch up again pretty quickly.
So yeah - if you're having fun with it that's great! You dont need to justify yourself to anyone! Likewise, if you've been playing for years and you're bored, that's natural; you dont need to uninstall - just try something else. It doesnt need to be Ride-or Die!
When I quit destiny two I felt like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Then I realized who was making my life worse.
I've been saying this for a while my favourite moments in destiny have always been when I've been a casual/bad and enjoying the game for itself
omg I think you sort of just explained what I think the core issue is with the way Bungie (execs) handles Destiny 2:
Players started chasing that "high". That became the core community of the game.
And then the game switched to a content model & structure matching this phenomenon of chasing past "highs".
And boom: recipe for the burnout machine.
Random joy, secrets & excitement have been replaced by routine, expectancy & reliability.
I can't remember when the last time was that I got a loot drop that I didn't know about in advance through a TWAB preview.
And due to the API, & the way social media algorithm works, any unannounced drop will eventually reach our eyes/ears ahead of time anyway.
I stuck around because of the lore. I've been reading the grimoire cards since the launch of VoG in D1 vanilla.
I loved when there were revelations to be concluded by piecing together different bits of lore, hinting at larger worldbuilding.
I loved discovering the mysteries of Destiny's universe.
But more importantly, I loved the conversations & speculations around them.
It's not that the mysteries are gone, but rather, they've been oversimplified now. You can see them from miles away, on conveyor belts, racing towards you.
Some story threads, that were part of the Light & Darkness storyline, have been pushed to the sides, to make the conclusion of the story line be just about the Witness.
The complexities & depth of Destiny's universe has been shrunk, & talking about it's worldbuilding is just not exciting to me anymore.
And that's sad, because none of the other games' worldbuilding intrigued me as much as Destiny's did, & I still haven't found a replacement.
Great video! I too just came back from a month away from the game and it definitely made me reflect on why I play it, and the point you made about the memories is spot on.
Here's hoping TFS is a banger and we can all make it out of the content trenches!
Every time I see a Nomad notification, I get a video as good, if not better than the last one.
I almost didn't watch this because I'm so, so, so weary of how prevalent this "negativity puts bread on the table" problem has become on UA-cam, but it's you, so I did. But scrolling through my UA-cam feed has started to feel like fighting through a crowd of people yelling about how I'm doing everything wrong and everything is trash. For me, Destiny is still fun. It's UA-cam that's killing me. I've got to figure out how to change my algorithm or maybe just bookmark Lindsay Nikole's channel and call it a day. I still enjoy Destiny. Watching all these content creators, I know I don't want to make it my job. I do wish you every good thing and I hope you find the fun again.
With you, I'm finishing up the DLC and then retiring from gaming as a whole. IRL is finally moving the way I want, and it's going to start getting in the way. Plus, gaming isn't fun to me anymore. I wish everyone well in the game and IRL.
Nothing beats that dopamine hit of playing a new game for the first time, and genuinely having fun. Still remember that feeling of playing on First Light in the D1 beta and thinking "this is FUN". Always good to play new games and get a change of scenery every once in a while.
beautifully written and spoken, this resonated with me a lot. fantastic video, you handsome devil.
Finally, I’ve waited for sometime for any of my fav destiny content creators still playing or not, to make this video. It needed to happen.
Stepping away makes me realize that no other game has better gunplay.
Yeah, D2 is the best in that category. The addiction and grinding are the worst aspects of D2.
But is that STILL enough?
At this point I'm too invested, so many years, to not finish the story. But I think after that I'm out unless there are huge changes.
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT! I’ve been saying that the biggest issue in D2 isn’t D2 or Bungie but the echo chamber of negativity within the community for months!
I'm sticking around, if you move on and make new stuff I'll watch it. As much as we all enjoy Destiny, it's going to end one day, and the healthy thing to do is move on, I've gotten to where I don't play as much anymore, I still enjoy this game, but I want to enjoy other things as well. Appreciate everything you've done Nomad, and even if you think you were negative, you were just speaking your feelings on how you feel about this game and it's ok to be passionate about the things you enjoy and want it to be better.
Was anyone else distracted by how clean that room behind him was?
Very well put together my friend.
This video is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been spending all of lightfall thoroughly enjoying my time in destiny, yet feeling suffocated by a community trying to convince me it's awful. I've felt barrated by the Tiktok hivemind that I should stop playing Destiny and play Helldivers 2 or Elden Ring instead when those games simply aren't as fun to me. This constant blaring of the mainstream video game audience making me feel like I'm somehow wrong for finding good things to say about destiny and finding flaws in those other games gets really exhausting. Disconnecting from every one of these larger communities probably really is the healthiest thing for me to do, and that is exactly what I will be doing.
As a graphic designer, i've always loved how you do the graphics on your videos, just so clean, anyways great videoo!!
Gaming has become so much more fun since quitting destiny about 10 months ago,I’ve played and enjoyed many more games from my backlog and it made me realise what a chore (almost like a second job)it was to play destiny.
You made it a chore. The key to enjoying Destiny is to let go of the FOMO
@@dukenukem19888I don’t think that’s entirely on the player.
Most of the seasonal quests now are; Listen to dialogue, do mission, do playlist stuff, do that mission again, listen to dialogue, see you next week.
Hell even some of the campaigns make you go do busywork just to pad out the playtime.
The game is great but that doesn’t make the encouraged gameplay loop feel any less like a chore.
@@dukenukem19888destiny is majority FOMO. To let go of the FOMO is to let go of a majority of destiny’s content.
The game systems themselves are designed specifically to enforce that. @@dukenukem19888
@@spartacus6256 lmao no.
Another gun will come around that’s equal to or better than the one you missed. There’s literally hundreds of viable options.
It's definitely true that disconnecting yourself from online discussions surrounding anything you enjoy, will allow you to enjoy that thing for longer. And that's not to say that by looking at why it's actually bad, and agreeing with that it's bad, means that you're not thinking for yourself, and just taking other people's opinions. It's merely just a matter of multiple heads being better than one. So by staying ignorant of the issues, you'll come to realize them a lot slower than if you look up what the hundreds of thousands of heads are thinking and analyzing.
I think back to my first two years in Genshin Impact, my first gacha game. I had no idea what I was doing back then, and so, many others were ahead of me by a long shot. But I was still enjoying the game despite that. Only once I eventually did get involved in the discussions, learning the game faster, realize why certain things are bad, etc, did it affect my enjoyment with the game. I got burnt out faster, probably due to having gotten better at the game, and spoiling the fun of learning for yourself, in combination with being aware of more of the game's issues for long periods of time, with no improvements being made by the developers.
TL;DR; Ignorance is bliss.
I think for future games, I'm going to ignore any online discussions, and just enjoy the game for myself, even if it's wrong. I want to see for how much longer a game can be enjoyed when played this way.
The thing is with gacha games, the story is the easy part. But at some point you need to prepare for the second season, since the game will get harder.
Unless you always want to do the optional content, which means using the meta or paying to get awesome units (if you are unlucky with your rolls).
But in this case the expectations are different (story vs optional content).
So gacha games, while very good, need to be approached with this mindset. What is your end goal, what are you prepared to do. For instance for Genshin, it can be the first area. Or the second or the third. In the end, your worst enemy is yourself, especially if you are dropping money into the game. Or you have an addictive personality, for example must collect everything or must conquer everything or you like to show off.
Online games that emphasize ginding (looter shooters like Destiny or Borderlands, hack & slash games like Diablo) need to be approached with the same mindset.
I dont know what you did with Genshin Impact that affected your enjoyment, but at least you learned something about yourself, what to avoid in the future (perhaps in a different game), or perhaps in Genshin impact itself.
bro some of u guys are acting like taking a break from this game is like quitting a job like god damn its not all that😂
When your source of income is based solely on playing a video game yea tell that to there faces 🤡💀 and then say it with a straight face
Uhhh very few of us are streamers. Everybody acts like they were forced to play destiny when in reality, those people lacked self control.
I still enjoy the game because I have the incredible ability to play other games. Every Destiny video has comments like "I quit destiny 2 since X and (fill in the blank)". It's not a badge of honor, these people just quit being an addict.
@@ZarChasmOfficial Thanks for realizing what im tryna say lol
@@noahr9054 yeah that was mostly directed for anyone that thinks like the other guy in the comments.
People have been playing this game for more than a decade so quitting the game is a huge deal for them
just subbed to you, this popped up in my rec, this is a wonderful video thats absolutely not exclusive to d2. i had a similar experience with league of legends and to a lesser extent old school runescape. i no longer play league (after 10 ish years of addiction thats a cool thing to say im ngl), and ive learned to balance osrs better nowadays, so im not married to exclusively one game till im absolutely burnt.
ill also mention, i did at one point try to get into d2, and it was very fun (i was a void lock), but i was extremely lost storywise, and the gameplay itself didnt hook me enough despite being amazing, i need more than just good gunplay. anywho, back to the vid.
I have not booted the game since 5/23/23 (I know because it was the day after my son's birthday which was on a Monday last year). I played the intro mission for the season that Tuesday, saw it was more of the same thing and uninstalled. I'm 100% done. I'll watch someone play The Final Shape on twitch to find out what happens, but I have zero interest in spending any more of my money, or especially, any more of my time in Destiny. I can't believe it's been almost a year.
Part of the issue with becoming a content creator, your favorite game becomes work and you wind up hating it/not enjoying it. Obviously Bungie has had issues with Destiny 2 for a long time now, but as someone who doesn't no life the game, it has never been bad to a point of "burn out" for me. I have about 700 hours on D2, but I also play other games throughout the week. I personally have never seen how content creators could play this game 8+ hours a day as it just simply doesn't(and has never) have the content to support that kind of playstyle and there really isn't enough good loot to grind for. While Bungie has sucked for several years now, I think a lot of this also falls on the creators who just no life these games and don't branch out. When you tie your entire brand to one game, you're going to eventually burn out unless you find a way to balance your life and habits away from the game. You do anything for 8+ hours a day and you're going to have burnout/get bored at some point.
Thanks for this video...
I'm 28 and the last few weeks/months have been difficult.
I don't enjoy Destiny 2 anymore, in fact, I rarely enjoy playing other games.
I don't know what is happening to me. That surge of adrenaline and joy is simply not there and I don't know what to do to feel better.
I don't even enjoy my job anymore. Back in the day, I was so eager and active about learning new things but now, everything feels like a burden. I do things only because I HAVE to, rather than doing things because I WANT to do them. Tbh I don't know even know how to express myself.
Anyway... Feels good to open up and talk about these things.
You'll not lose a subscriber, I promise
This is alarming. Plenty of D2 players with such problems, including me. Brain damage from an addiction or something.
Though I do enjoy the other single player games from my backlog I’m trying out right now. I regret not spending time on them when I bought them.
Make sure you don’t get yourself in a rut and getting depressed. Maybe you should start a new hobby or something to get you out of that mindset.
I can relate, but I'm 44.
Been playing since D1 alpha, it's time to move on boys... I quit the game about 4 months ago and I enjoy playing video games again! I will return one last time for the Final Shape, then that's it for me and alot of my friends and clan members are saying the same thing. It's been 10 years and I had fun, we all had fun didn't we? But 10 years is a long time and alot of things have changed since then, let's be honest with ourselves Bungie isn't Bungie anymore... this isn't Halo: Reach or Destiny 1: Taken King. This is the reality of gaming that we are now seeing, death is inevitable and for a gaming studio as large as this one it is a slow DECAY. I will forever cherish the memories Bungie has brought me throughout my entire life I am 21 years old so this studio has been releasing banger after banger since before I was even born! But all good things must come to an end as they say... see you one last time in the Final Shape ladies and gentlemen, let's finish the fight.
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." - Dr. Seuss
It’s been 10 years, guys. There is no surprise. Play helldivers for 10 years straight and tell me how “amazing” it is.
Bet they will not sunset half of the game and not microtransaction the game to death. Also bet they will release more weapons and costumes that will not be 20 bucks a pop. Companies and developers that listen will always outlast ones that just tell you what you want to hear
Man, they deleted half of the game we “bought “, y’all just tripping
Ive done so with Warframe and its still amazing.
@@CazadorHex That's probably because every update shakes things up a ton, unlike D2. The parkour system added way back,the second dream,Mechs,Nemesis system,New frames, the railjack system, Kahl of duty,Zariman update, New war hitting the "Together we fight, Together we fall" type story. Duviri being a Roguelite Dark Souls like system. Then the 1999 stuff, man in the wall enemies, duviri enemies, and almost every type of weapon under the sun and adding more in march 27.
I find it weird how Warframe can just poof new enemies to existence, meanwhile the shadow cabal is just the 4th reskin? of cabal.
World of Warcraft (2004)
EVE Online (2003)
League of Legends (2009)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012)
Dota 2 (2013)
Path of Exile (2013)
Final Fantasy XIV (2013)
Warframe (2013)
Rainbow Six Siege (2015)
mine is the remove content and lore totally wasted by bungie in EACH season, and also removing the Red War....
Playing a game for fun... how dare you ;-)
Edit: Sustained happines is a dragon you'll be chaising 'till you die. We humans are not built for that. All we can aim for is a state of what some would call zen.
Bungie Devs (handshake) Destiny UA-camrs -------> Let's destroy a great gaming experience and give players schizophrenia
I played the souls series to quit. The games made me realize that difficulty doesn't make something unfun, and that I should also begin trying new games. I beat the arkham trilogy, beat FF 15 and 16, and I'm gonna replay FF7 Remake and beat Rebirth. I play Helldivers 2 for my live-service kick and play Destiny 1 for that little itch. I'm gonna play Final Shape and call it a day. I'm done with Destiny 🎉
I quit Destiny 2 right before Witch Queen, big life stuff happened. Didnt touch any games for 6 months... And its been the best decision for enjoying games that I've ever made.
I've played so many games from my back log and have actually FINISHED so many titles. Nothing beats the feeling of actually completing a full game. I realized how much I hate the "endless evolving storyline" and enjoy shorter, more detailed and meaningful story and characters.
I did it with Warframe, World of tanks, Warthunder and Destiny 2. Live games become "worse". It may not be because of the live service. You just don't get the kick anymore, Get annyoed with the community. Same will happen with Helldivers 2 - after a few hundreds, mabe thousand of hours. I know this now, I'm old... :D
As a WoW player of well over 10 years at this point, your lesson 2 rings especially true to me. I still have fun in that game, in spite of the negativity, because I don't concern myself with it. Cataclysm and Pandaria were two of my all-time favorite expansions, contrary to what you hear, because I don't let others tell me what is or isn't fun for me. Which is also why I'm still enjoying D2 and loving having another extra long season. I have so much going on outside of video games that 3 months is HELL to try and get everything done and often I'll neglect things irl just to add a few more hours in game to try and get all the content finished.
The biggest reason I left was the story. I am so sick of them removing previous expansions/seasons, so I was very lost when I came back at the end of WQ and the start of LF. D1 base story was broken up, so when TTK came out with a solid story, I was so happy. RW in D2 was so satisfying (that it was a story, the story itself was meh) but I left shortly afterwards.
Second reason I left... the price tag to play the entire game. $120 for a full expansion experience? No thank you. The Battle Pass mech in Live Service games was the worst idea. Plus, most of the DLC is found in some other DLC you can end up spending $500+ because they were not clear on what is in each DLC. I just cannot stand it any more because I have spent more $$$ here than any other game I have ever played.
Its funny tbh. I started with Destiny 1 and consider myself a massive, MASSIVE casual. I quit Destiny 1 after the initial grind fest. Came back for destiny 2 initially and basically immediately quick back when there was a leveling system. I ended up coming back for beyond light extremely casually. I ended up day 1'ing witch queen after seeing the hype and pre-ordered lightfall only to quit before even actually starting the story for lightfall.
After that I thought I was done. It was always the grind that would turn me away.
After Lightfall I got into ARPG's like PoE and sunk in over a thousand hours into it. Recently took a hiatus from PoE and tried helldivers, and then from helldivers went to exoprimal, about 20 hours in warframe which led me back to.....
The thing about Destiny from a casuals perspective is that there really isnt any other pve shooter that feels as good. Not Helldivers, Not Exoprimal, not Warframe.
Trust me when I say I totally understand the absolute frustration and rage from the hardcore/end game players of the game (being I'm a hardcore end gamer in PoE).
But when you look at it from shiny noob lenses, from a newcomer, or just a fresh set of eyes, D2 is an absolute banger of a game. It just feels so damn good.
It really is a shame all the stuff that needs to be improved especially for people who want to main the game.
The model of the game is really difficult to pull off. You cant have seasonal content that feeds you bread crumbs in an ARPG and expects you to keep coming back with such an absolute RNG fest of a run.
Thats where a game like PoE shines. Yes there is extremely rare loot. But there is a trade system and there is ways for you to get the stuff. The "seasons" have you reset your character completely. There technically is an overarching story for the game as well even though you are resetting and making a new character every time.
Idk how to explain it. Like yes (even from my very own perspective) I know the end game for D2 has let a lot of people down. But man when you leave and come back to it as a casual you can truly appreciate the gunplay they have for the game. It really is a bittersweet disappointment of a game.
Bittersweet because you know the unequivocal potential, and where it solidifies itself in one aspect. But then you think about the other passionate dev teams of other studios, and how if they got their hands on a goldmine like D2 (Helldivers team, Larian, Fromsoft etc.) they would put their absolute all into it. They would add all kinds of new species, subclasses, lore, loot etc. Obviously the comparison is incomprehensible. I'm just saying you can tell that bungie as a company just fell to corporate greed and it shows in their games. Developers at the end of the day are at the mercy of the people that have stake in the company.
Reading up on the state of D2 (after having about 50 hours in the game this past week) its really so sad. The devs have been begging the overlords of bungie to allow them to fix the game to bring players back.
At the end of the day Bungie is just another corp in a sea of corps that decided to screw the devs, screw making a good game, and screw their fans that supported them in making them as huge as they actually are.
I think the biggest deterioration of my love for destiny came from playing and trying to justify continuing to play, PVP. The PVE in this game is incredibly fun, i like playing it with my friends, I love doing it, Raids are fun, dungeons are fun, GMs are fun, getting my triple hundy stats was fun.
Playing trials? Spending hours upon hours screaming at my screen, raging, getting mad, burnt out, tired, all for a ship, sparrow and ghost shell.
After getting two of the three, then the skimmer came out, I ended up deciding to quit trials for good, especially after realizing the reason why i ever flawlessed on my own in the first place was because of the "crutch" Weapons that the community universally loathes, I feel no satisfaction in what i did, i feel like i never improved, i just cheesed.
However, playing with my buddies in PVE is always nice. i'll love this game for that, and probably wont ever be burnt out.
I had no idea so many people can’t juggle multiple games at once alongside Destiny 2 lol.
I still love the game and play it atleast 4 times a week, but I also play Xenoblade3, HellDivers 2, Sonic 06 project, and Tekken 8.
I feel that the main issue a lot of people have is balance. You shouldn’t force yourself to enjoy anything, just play when you feel like it. Notice how I don’t play any other FPS games cause that medium gets stale if that’s all you play. Get some variety, hang out with friends every so often, get a hobby and enjoy your game when you want to. I do all this with a full time job, a puppy, and a lady.
Balance my friends, balance.
I have no Connection to destiny 2 or shooters in general, so dunno why I clicked on this Video, BUT... this video really hit home for me!
For me it was Guild Wars 2. I played it almost exclusively for years and as time went on I just became more and more frustrated, till I just stopped playing and was really bitter, almost hated the game.
Switched games around, found new communities new hobbies, new games to mess around in.
When I came back to my old "home" I didn't feel the same connection as back then, but I had fun again. I enjoyed my time in the game after so long!
The one thing that changed for me in gaming is... I don't get to involved in Communities anymore. Like you said: to much input from outside just isn't healthy for a relationship to a game.
The big point is the "hyperconnection" of a game.
Even D1, which I just played by myself or with a few friends here and there. There are a lot more "good memories" of it than D2.
But if I'm truly being honest to myself, D2 has as many or even more (longer lifespan and playing on pc with friends that dont have consoles or had an xbox instead back in D1) than D1.
The deal is that in D2, youre far more connected than ever and it takes a toll. Fomo, metas, content creators with guides for everything, no mysteries, nothing. And, of course, the complaining about the game's problems, that reach a new level because of this hyperconnection.
Then you play another game thats less connected (or just new like helldivers 2) and everything changes.
Its just like how every game becoming a live service, or every game having battle passes and seasons, etc. ruin them. They all start to compete for your undivided attention or they will fail as a live service/batlle pass/seasonal game.
And time is a limited currency that we cant buy more.
My guy, Destiny 2 fell off WAAAAAY back. In fact I'd argue it died after forsaken. New light just made everything worse and anyone who stuck by it after that is a fool.
My man, you're taking a coward's way out. If D2's criticisms were loud enough when it mattered, things wouldn't have come to this. There is no balance to be had when the issues that the concerned part of the playerbase voiced for years eventually dragged down the game and now threatens to drag down the studio with it. It is clear that if Bungie spent all the money D2 earned on D2, then D2 would have lived and thrived, but no, they wasted that money on developing 2-3 other games and then fired the people who earned all the money to begin with. The only right way for any person with integrity was to put your foot down and quit when it mattered, and never come back. By staying with the game even longer you're just helping Bungie's toxic management ride their way to the golden helicopter made out of Sony payouts (for the only successful business plan they executed in past 5 years: fooling Sony into buying their studio), and then watch as the rest of the devs lose their livelihoods as the studio sinks.
There is no middle ground here. If Sony doesn't fire Bungie execs NOW, they will leave Bungie only when there's no longer a way to save it. And the only chance we as a community have to effect that is to stop playing NOW, not after the final shape, NOW. Otherwise your cowardly "balance" narrative is no better than Datto/Reppo's aggressive toxic white-knighting that has allowed the execs to get the studio and the game to this point.
It´s not just you getting older, but you not experiencing new good things. I was sitting there multiple times thinking i am bored of games but then games like Elden Ring come around ever so rarely and i am hooked and i cannot stop anymore. And i am around your age aswell Nomad.
The best way to "Deal" with it is to look forward to new things and get excited.
Of course Destiny will never hit as hard anymore. Same goes for Elden Ring for me now that i´ve put over 150 hours into it. But a new game might do that again and again and i am all for it.
Life moves on, time moves on and so should everyone.
Cherish what good you had and make sure more of this will happen in the future.
When a relationship is good, both sides benefit well. When it gets bad, that's where it will be tested the most. These past months have been eye opening for many players, that the relationship that they have with Destiny 2 has been toxic after all the time that they have been together now. I have been disillusioned to the beauty of Destiny 2 since season of the worthy and have remained a skeptic. All my feelings and conclusions were confirmed when lay offs hit, Final Shape got delayed, and Lightfall was a flop. Final Shape is pretty much the end of Destiny 2 and whether we wanted it or not, Joe Blackburn will leave after, much of the original Destiny 2 team is working on Bungie's other projects like Marathon, and seasons are turning into episodes which means content is going to wind down. I took a break from Destiny 2 and played Palworld and Helldivers 2, never have I ever had fun in such a long time before. Recently I have been getting back into Final Fantasy 14 and continuing on in the story and has been very refreshing and a better experience than before.
I've played since D1 beta, and I finally quit last year. First time I played, I was surprised as hell there were 87 days left in the season pass as of playing at the time.
I only did 3 strikes and immediately remembered why I stopped. It's just the same thing over and over again for little to no beneficial reward whatsoever, with nothing new or fun.
I'm kinda the opposite to a lot of the comments. I'll play other games for a bit but then they always seem to get kinda boring or stale quickly. Then I start D2 back up again and I'm like wow, this is still so so good. Even with the flaws you just can't beat the gameplay.
I think the real challenge that holds destiny back is the constant power grind... Also WORKING. (And it is work for anyone who can't play hours at a time) to be able to then go play end game content is such a waste of people's time. It does not respect the audiences time
As a D1 Beta vet, ive been a solo player since the beginning. Ive loved the game through its ups and downs, and it was a huge part of my childhood and teen years. Ive never experienced a raid or dungeon, or many of the late game high-tier activities. Unfortunately this game has become like a subscription, and i can no longer afford it, so im going to get Final Shape to give myself a send off, then ill be leaving.
wow i stopped playing this only a couple months after release, just stumbled on this on yt and legitimately did not know so many people still played lmao. google says 30,000+ concurrent players wtf why would you do that to yourselves? lol
Dude i realized that after i left the game the entire game was centered around trying to keep my attention but i always tell myself the same thing that the old Nintendo ceo used to say "if it isn't fun why bother". I loved the dungeons but not everything can be centered around horde based things and i was happy when they announced the horde........but it had a timer and who cares about all these craftable weapons when I've been using the same thing for about a year absolutely decimating all bosses solo in my dungeons. And like most d2 players i explored and found Warframe and dude i can have a custom area suited to my need like a whole liveable area to test things out and everything and i was shocked that everything was free in Warframe
I come back to Destiny every once in a while to see how things are. I don't really watch videos on it, I try to avoid discourse over it on social media, etc. After stepping away like I have, I realize the only thing that kept me playing was two thing:
-The want for things to be like they were
-My clanmates
I don't really have anyone to game with, especially outside of Destiny. But Destiny has my clanmates who do get on every once in a while. So I would stay on the game so I wouldn't have to game alone. But eventually I couldn't do it anymore and needed to leave the game. And it was the best decision I could've made. I'm still working on it, but I'm enjoying gaming again. And with all of these new indie games being released, it's a greater time than ever to play new games.
Destiny is always going to have a special place in my heart because of the memories I have and the milestone it represented. But I think after The Final Shape, my time as a Destiny player is likely over. I'm growing up, and the game has grown up in a different way that doesn't fit me, anymore.
Pretty dramatic. Take a break if you feel like it. I've been taking a break from D2 but I'm pretty hyped to jump back in next week for the update
taking a step away makes me not want to play like it's an addiction that i overcame and don't really see its value anymore.
this really isnt a good situation. i love destiny a LOT but like smoking i cant really say that i want to do it because it hurts my lungs to play. big tobacco (bungie) needs to take the addiction out of their smokes and make something that players will want to smoke.
also i could take this analogy further and say warframe is like vaping. it's not healthier but like its a choice you got and it tastes pretty good at least (idk ive literally never msoked before just seen it from family)
You sound like you left a cult. It's okay to say Bungie sucks and it's time to move on.
This should be a staple for every FOMO Destiny 2 player left playing.
The finals has ethical issues? Haha. Stick to Destiny, it's what you deserve.
Lesson 3 is why i am a variety gamer. Variety is the spice of life.
Thankyou so much for everything Crucible Doctor!
I've said many times: The best way to enjoy a game is to avoid the bulk of the community.
Playing a game for that long will def make it become stale. You just have to let the good memories remain as they are and not try to force new ones I feel.
Ah yes, the great philosophers; Maroon 5
Hey Nomad. Long time viewer here. I just wanted to say that I empathize with a lot of what you said here. I've been playing D2 as my main game for way too long and I've felt it was time for a change. I always hoped that they would bring things to a definitive end, but their episodic model seems to suggest otherwise. If I'm going to get the perfect ending to Destiny that I've always wanted, I'm going to have to write it myself. I do believe TFS is going to be my final DLC, and I'd like to bug all my old Destiny friends to join me for one last fire fight. Together, I hope we can finish a story we started 10 years ago. Here's to the perfect ending. The one we choose, not the one we're given.
Thank you for your words, and I hope these words find you well.
5:27 Ha! He blew that dude’s toes off! 😂
Good form, man! 👏🏿
I mained Destiny since the D1 beta came out, and finally gave it up a couple weeks after lightfall came out. I still jump on time to time to send out clan invites (site never works for me) but that's about it. I just get inundated with 7+ pop ups about all the same shit that I've already played and done, plus whatever latest expansion they're trying to sell. I can't get myself to play it anymore. The same tedious seasonal grind. The dripfed story. The constant rotation of doing X activity X amount of times per character, per week. The games foundation is solid, the gunplay phenomenal. They just aren't innovating enough, and it's been that way for years. I had enough and moved on to other games, permanently.
Maybe the Final Shape is the friends we made along the way
I agree with you here, but having more than one game is nearly impossible with budgets. Since every game has a battle pass, is live service, etc etc, if you wanna play more than one game and get the fullest experience, the cost is too high. I could spend $100 for the year and get every battlepass, exotic and all other content through playing. But now I'd have to do the same with every game I play. It's too much
Wider issue with gaming as a whole, I fear
Destiny became about the grind not the experience.
I quit when I noticed to many reskins for “new” guns
A lot of wise words here , I'm going to be thinking about this a lot
the issue was for me story, money focus and management of weapons.
so like.. people don't.. hop around and play other gmes??
you guys know its.. okay to go play other games, right?? you dont *have* to be a slave to that rise and grind mentality. New content? log in, get some hours, then go play something else.
Other games? Do they exist?
"i quit destiny 2"
"here's an ad for war thunder"
Oh the game blows and has blown for quite some time.
This is my first video I've seen from you, but I truly appreciate this message, and this can apply to so many things outsides of gaming and Destiny as a whole, it's just pure simple living, I've found myself mentally stuck on that same depressive, cynical loop and this video was a nice breath of fresh air for me today, thank you for making this and sharing your experiences, I hope you keep achieving that fulfillment for as long as possible. I'm hoping I can do the same for myself with trying to find a career that won't leave me feeling like a husk of a person anymore lol.
Balanced commentary on a game? Shocking.
I really appreciate how honest and level headed you are. You’re such a wonderful part of the Destiny community, whatever part that looks like in the future.
Really hope you’re not done when Destiny is done. There are other games (maybe Marathon) that I’d like to see you cover and someday Destiny 3 will be out and I want to see you cover that
I'm exactly in the same spot. I stopped playing D2 in late November and played other games. I feel much better for taking that break, and I'm not touching D2 until the next expansion.
I deleted Destiny 2 last week, even though I hadn't played for months and months. It's a fun game, when it isn't fucking with you.