@@solin21210 yea, found that pretty funny after saying that he got someone to pronounce the cards right this time. Everyone makes mistakes every once in a while.
Kael'thas Sunstrider really didn't make the cut? Idk if I really can say Marin has broken Hearthstone at this moment, I never tear my hair out when I play against him(:
You should have mentioned oaken summons with vargoth. If you drew it and highrolled you summoned a 4/10 with taunt, vargoth himself and gained 12 armor. This alone made druid absolutely curbstomp any aggro decks for the longest time.
kind of bizarre that a card that makes you deck size bigger is an autoinclude. I play Magic, where it's commonly understood that having your deck as close to the minimum size allowed by regulations is optimal because it makes the deck more consistent. A few years ago they printed a card that made you run 20 extra cards in your deck and that was a drawback in deck construction.
If there was a card that let your deck size and health be 20 it would be way stronger for that reason. In renethals case you didn’t need consistency you just ran a greedy pile of 40 cards with no real strategy, it was wack
Cool vid! I feel like no discussion about snip-snap is complete without mentioning how OBNOXIOUS that combo is to actually watch play out. The game isn't actually over when snipsnap is dropped because the animations took a million years, so opponents would often rope before getting that attack in. If I'm playing the deck I'm getting apm tested like no one's business and if I'm playing against it I'm watching for 30 seconds hoping the opponent is an old man and can't handle the heat, and i think that's just icing on the cake to how ridiculous this was
Still as imbalanced, now it's just hungry demons or nagas (or both) - personslly love it, but the tribes without stats growing the same way just feel awful
Renathal was wonderful. It allowed games to last longer than 5 minutes before blizzard went "well kids, time to move on to the next game." Edit: comparing snip-snap (dead on turn 4 if you're unlucky) with Renathal (make games slightly longer than 5 minutes) is wild :D
Renathal wonderful? 😂, the card that made greedy decks not just viable but meta... starting with druid, i don't know where people started to idealize Renathal.
@DavidPachón8591 it was a breath of fresh air from non-stop, relentless aggro making every game snowball to victory within minutes. Maybe long term it wasn't a good idea, but I wouldn't say it broke the game.
@@luketerimz3117 oh really? Tell me exactly what were those unbeatable aggro decks back then and i will start to believe you, all nathria was greedy crap.
@@luketerimz3117 and yes, Renathal did broke the game making the greedy decks way more viable against their only bad matchup just because they had at the start of the game +10 life and made the decks way more expensive/value dependant, at least on standard, wild is another thing since aggro has more tools to deal the most damage (that's why Renathal does not break Wild).
Just came back to hearthstone after 5 years I saw this and realized how big the power creep became I mean 1 mana less then it’s counter part you don’t have to break a chest and get to shuffle the other three into your deck like tf
I was playing odyn warrior against another control deck and they generated a heyla and so both of us in fatigue i was taking 3 plauges a turn. I used goblet to fill my hand with plauges to then burn them. Then i used monkey to turn all the plauges in my hand to legendarys and it was nuts
Ok genuinely can we talk about how BROKEN marin the manager is compared to the other cards in this game that give you fantastic treasures? Like the original marin was 8 whole mana and you had to kill an 8 health minion to get a completely random fantastic treasure. And then there was the toggwaggle that only worked if you had a lacky on the board and it didn’t shuffle the other fantastic treasures into the deck. It BAFFLES me how much this game has been powercrept that the new marin is just straight up 7 mana choose a fantastic treasure shuffle the others into your deck.
I actually like your top 5 videos. I been watching Rarran, and he's pretty good, but he sort of only scratches the the surface crust. I feel like you get right into the meat and gravy, if you will.
true, i quit when stormwind released and renathal brought me back. then i lef again when he hot nerfed. attrition players never get to have fun anymore 😢
Renathal saved Hearthstone from mindless aggro meta to some degree and enabled us to play some slower decks and test funny ideas. In no way did it break Hearthstone
@@JordanMG but it was an infinite damage combo created by snipsnap that led to IT being nerfed instead of snipsnao, which is exactly what you were talking about with those other "not free" cards.
Hahahaha he got burned because of his pronunciation so he decided to let his wife do it ,in that way he is better than the rest of us nerds , hahahaha great move
None of these cards come CLOSE to the absolute BROKENNESS that was Kael'thas Sunstrider. He made TURN ONE OTKS POSSIBLE (or at least set up unlosable board states). And you put Renathal (???) and Marin (???????) over him? Disliked, unsubbed, reported, see you next video
Props to Jordan's wife for pronouncing all of the card names correctly.
shes perfect
arch is not pronounced with a ch, but like arc
@@solin21210 yea, found that pretty funny after saying that he got someone to pronounce the cards right this time. Everyone makes mistakes every once in a while.
@@solin21210to be fair, arch-mage is no add-lad grizzly.
@@solin21210 Only in the US. It's a ch in UK/Aus/NZ/Canada/everywhere else
You forgot Kael'thas Sunstrider. He was so broken they re-nerfed him after they un-nerfed him in Wild.
yea he easily fits this criteria
Kael'thas Sunstrider really didn't make the cut? Idk if I really can say Marin has broken Hearthstone at this moment, I never tear my hair out when I play against him(:
yea he's probably positioned fairly right now, but he's certainly very strong and popular!
C'thun wasn't broken, but was quite strong and free
i wish man, i wish
You should have mentioned oaken summons with vargoth. If you drew it and highrolled you summoned a 4/10 with taunt, vargoth himself and gained 12 armor. This alone made druid absolutely curbstomp any aggro decks for the longest time.
Dang, a Prince Renathal OTK? Who has such brilliant ideas?
Such a creative combo, I wonder who could have done it...
@@locogato3488 ikr?
@@UltiKon Ulti/MG combo collab video in the future? Prayge
@@SeanH80 surely :)
kind of bizarre that a card that makes you deck size bigger is an autoinclude. I play Magic, where it's commonly understood that having your deck as close to the minimum size allowed by regulations is optimal because it makes the deck more consistent. A few years ago they printed a card that made you run 20 extra cards in your deck and that was a drawback in deck construction.
If there was a card that let your deck size and health be 20 it would be way stronger for that reason. In renethals case you didn’t need consistency you just ran a greedy pile of 40 cards with no real strategy, it was wack
Kael'thas Sunstrider?
this isn't a "top 5" list as much as just 5 cards, but yea...that easily fits!
Can't believe this channel only has 4K subs, it deserves a lot more!
I appreciate that!
5:20 : Nice oldschool runescape login music. Will never forget this one from my childhood
Oaken Summon into Vargoth into 5/10 taunt. You gain 12 armor draw two cards and summon two minion for just 4 mana.
wild staple for years!
Cool vid! I feel like no discussion about snip-snap is complete without mentioning how OBNOXIOUS that combo is to actually watch play out. The game isn't actually over when snipsnap is dropped because the animations took a million years, so opponents would often rope before getting that attack in. If I'm playing the deck I'm getting apm tested like no one's business and if I'm playing against it I'm watching for 30 seconds hoping the opponent is an old man and can't handle the heat, and i think that's just icing on the cake to how ridiculous this was
I liked that we got a second taste of Add-led grizzly just to reinforce why JordanMrs was brought in for the role
I miss the good old Renathal days when my opponent only had 40 health.
Do what battlegrounds was like in 2019 and 2020 with poison divine shild murlocs
Still as imbalanced, now it's just hungry demons or nagas (or both) - personslly love it, but the tribes without stats growing the same way just feel awful
Marin was a fresh breath of nostalgia
I really wish they brought back renethal at 40
Theres always Wild 😅😂
Renathal was wonderful. It allowed games to last longer than 5 minutes before blizzard went "well kids, time to move on to the next game."
Edit: comparing snip-snap (dead on turn 4 if you're unlucky) with Renathal (make games slightly longer than 5 minutes) is wild :D
aint comparin nothin - they're wildly different cases!
Renathal wonderful? 😂, the card that made greedy decks not just viable but meta... starting with druid, i don't know where people started to idealize Renathal.
@DavidPachón8591 it was a breath of fresh air from non-stop, relentless aggro making every game snowball to victory within minutes. Maybe long term it wasn't a good idea, but I wouldn't say it broke the game.
@@luketerimz3117 oh really? Tell me exactly what were those unbeatable aggro decks back then and i will start to believe you, all nathria was greedy crap.
@@luketerimz3117 and yes, Renathal did broke the game making the greedy decks way more viable against their only bad matchup just because they had at the start of the game +10 life and made the decks way more expensive/value dependant, at least on standard, wild is another thing since aggro has more tools to deal the most damage (that's why Renathal does not break Wild).
Just subscribed. Kind of channel I was looking for since I'm new to Hearthstone and don't know anything outside standard.
welcome! :D
0:03 Bruh at this exact moment, my headphones told me _(in a female voice)_ that the battery was low. What are the chances ._.
Hmmm. I swear I thought Kael'thas was free but I guess I was wrong.
Because it was the most powerful card in the history of the game.
it was free! this isn't a top 5 list. If it was, kaelthas would be right up there!
Just came back to hearthstone after 5 years I saw this and realized how big the power creep became I mean 1 mana less then it’s counter part you don’t have to break a chest and get to shuffle the other three into your deck like tf
Don't forget the fact that you can choose which one you want
marin the fox 💀
I was playing odyn warrior against another control deck and they generated a heyla and so both of us in fatigue i was taking 3 plauges a turn. I used goblet to fill my hand with plauges to then burn them. Then i used monkey to turn all the plauges in my hand to legendarys and it was nuts
This is next level!!
Ok genuinely can we talk about how BROKEN marin the manager is compared to the other cards in this game that give you fantastic treasures? Like the original marin was 8 whole mana and you had to kill an 8 health minion to get a completely random fantastic treasure. And then there was the toggwaggle that only worked if you had a lacky on the board and it didn’t shuffle the other fantastic treasures into the deck. It BAFFLES me how much this game has been powercrept that the new marin is just straight up 7 mana choose a fantastic treasure shuffle the others into your deck.
😅 welp
I actually like your top 5 videos. I been watching Rarran, and he's pretty good, but he sort of only scratches the the surface crust. I feel like you get right into the meat and gravy, if you will.
good to know, i will continue to do that!
@@JordanMG if you became a full-time "top 10" HS channel, i wouldn't complain.
Speak for yourself, Renethal made the game way better imo
It got nerfed
true, i quit when stormwind released and renathal brought me back. then i lef again when he hot nerfed. attrition players never get to have fun anymore 😢
You can say that he broke hearthstone in a way that most people liked it)
He literally is speaking for himself
Card brought me back. Quit the moment he was nerfed
Renathal was the best thing happening to hearthstone, helps away the aggro crap for the most part
:)
that volcanosaur is pretty good with cannot be targeted adapt
Blizz please give this person more than three joke slots.
i feel bad for my comment about addled grizzly now...
No worries LOL
My wife wanted to do the voice overs anyway, this was just a way to introduce it so there wasn't a random unexplained female voice 😅
I don't particularily like Hearthstone, but videos about the game's history are hella enjoyable
good to know
Renathal saved Hearthstone from mindless aggro meta to some degree and enabled us to play some slower decks and test funny ideas. In no way did it break Hearthstone
renethal was unhealthy and nerfed for a reason :)
@@JordanMG The only unhealthy thing about Renathal is that he made toilet gamers spend too much time on the shitter lol
Did you play against Druid or Big Hunter back then?.
With the recent meta I feel like the new Zilliax could go on this list maybe
It goes on some list that's for sure 😂 it ain't free tho 🤔
@@JordanMG woops I have no idea how I forgot that was a defining characteristic of the list
Once more A video of great content, you have my thanks
I dont agree with Renathal making the less fun. Renathal was the most fun ive had in hearthstone for a while
Renethal made hearthstone so much more fun
Kael'thas Sunstrider.
lol why did i not do him
@@JordanMG Time for Part 2.
If I remember correctly, Sire Denathrius was also free.
@@Maxim.Nazarenko ezpz
Now be mad at my wife instead.
no shot
If you’re not subbed to the Machine Gun, you’re doing UA-cam wrong
real
Lovely video good jobb
amazing video
I took way too long to watch this. I think an Illidan would be great
Love hearing the wife giggle
:)
runescape music hell yeah
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Golden Harth!
🤔😀
And now it's nerfed!
Ya my "prediction", if we dare call it that, aged well I suppose
Archmage should be pronounced as arKmage
you wish!
9:12 “made hs much less fun” half the player base couldn’t disagree with you more 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ such a shit take
Half implies the other half agrees 😂 my major disgust is with the tech cards renethal enables tho...
And shadowboxer wity snipsnap
Why you miss shadowboxwr again
shadowboxer wasn't free
@@JordanMG but it was an infinite damage combo created by snipsnap that led to IT being nerfed instead of snipsnao, which is exactly what you were talking about with those other "not free" cards.
Reckless experimenter, mech warper, and summoning portal aren't free either @JordanMG
@@jonalban4349 I guess I dont know what you're talking about 😕 when I think of shadowboxer i think of the OTK with apothecary that got it nerfed
Hahahaha he got burned because of his pronunciation so he decided to let his wife do it ,in that way he is better than the rest of us nerds , hahahaha great move
😅
Prince
Rrrrenathal 💅💅💅✨✨✨
Lies. Hearthstone players can't get wives
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None of these cards come CLOSE to the absolute BROKENNESS that was Kael'thas Sunstrider. He made TURN ONE OTKS POSSIBLE (or at least set up unlosable board states). And you put Renathal (???) and Marin (???????) over him?
Disliked, unsubbed, reported, see you next video
its not a top 5 list 😅 I just didn't talk about kaelthas in this, maybe another time! (these were in order released)
First
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