Building 5 MORE Better Combat Patrols
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
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On this week’s episode, Brad and Eric talk about what makes a combat patrol appealing and try to fix existing Combat Patrols for some of the factions. This is a design exercise on how to build a discount box that contains everything to start an army and still can be profitable for the company that makes it.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
00:50 - Our Design Restrictions
05:07 - Fixing Thousand Sons
17:33 - Fixing Leagues of Votann
24:02 - Fixing Death Guard
33:38 - Fixing Chaos Daemons
44:44 - Fixing... Naughty cheater, you must now comment.
54:32 - Final Thoughts
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Hello. Wouldn't it be interesting if someone did a Poorhammer style Sisters of Battle Combat Patrol - while also reviewing the new Sisters of Battle Combat Patrol? Imagine if such a thing was already linked in the video description. Wow, that would be such a good thing to click on wouldn't it?
Also, imagine if *somewhere* on my channel there was a Poorhammer style combat patrol for the Genestealer Cult made before the new Combat Patrol came out. Wouldn't that be fun!
Your naive mistake is assuming anyone checks the description we spend time putting together. They DO check the pinned comment and replies though.
Give him a watch and sub if you like him, he's almost at 10K: ua-cam.com/video/bZmC8E4fryk/v-deo.html
(Sorry to the other supportive comment replies I deleted to set this joke up.)
I've watched a ton of your vids and it took this comment for me to realize I wasn't subbed... XD
Oh thank god it's normal to admit I'm subscribed to a vtuber now, cool. Collab of the century?
I came looking for this comment the moment he mentioned a 40k vtuber.
Thousand sons gets a new patrol
A tzaangor shaman
40 tzangoors
12 tzaangor enlightened
My girlfriend loves tzaangors would this a good army
The Tzaangors are all useful in AoS, right? So this would ironically be an okay-ish box if you want to play Tzeentch in both games?
Seems a bit slim on Tzaangors to be honest
@@alexandermichels6022yeah. I would have loved this box for AoS. Enlightened/Skyfire heavy 😆
@@Juan_Akissyuits an army... lots of board space taken up with trash, bodies and wounds on table value arent bad, and they work well for forward screens for your army of shooty dustbois, and arent that bad in melee against othwr screens and chaff you dont want to expend resources on
I confess I am a cheater looking at chapter titles I am sorry
wtf dude
i just want to know about my imp guard :(
@@bistrochefwithepilepsypretty easy fix give them a leamon Russ tank
They fucking got my ass
I'm having a truly miserable week out of nowhere, and this comment is the first thing to get a laugh out of me today. Thank you.
Man, for some reason @24:20 Brad suddenly sounds a lot cooler, and sexier, and well fed.
Brad of the future sounds so different. Not sure which year he called back from. But he sounded more Brazilian and like he had more dogs. The future seems to be an amazing place 😮
you guys should do a "which cereal is each faction" video. shit would do numbers
And it would be easy for when you guys need a break for another project.
MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES
cereal, pizza, ect, I want to know the entire food palate of each faction.
STEEL CUT OATS FOR THE MACHINE GOD
Commissar Crunch!
I noticed that none of your design restrictions include "balancing the box for the Combat Patrol game mode."
Not a big deal or anything I'm just surprised you and GW agree on a design principle for once!
Absolutely destroyed. LMAO
to be fair gw literally made combat patrol its own game mode just so they dont have to worry about balancing these boxes naturally.
Can’t believe the Khorne Lord of Skulls was based off the Sturmtiger
I feel honored to have given the 69th like on this comment
This was literally the first thing I though when I saw that chest-gun lmao
for "rating every faction's x" on the Aos side, you should do "rating every faction's carnosaur"- massive mounted leaders
Yes please do this.
can poorhammer read homestuck
Better yet
Rank every AoS faction's [40k unit]
Amongst all the AoS army, which has the closest thing to a Tervigon?
Where on the hemospectrum does each faction fall? (Imperial Guard will surprise you, Thousand Sons is exactly the one you think)
Didn't expect Christian Von Carmin to show up in a Poorhammer episode, yall should cheak his stuff out if you run Sisters or GSC
Love that dude
He CARRIED my journey into genestealer cults
Agreed. He has some really good stuff. Especially since us GSC players are quite starved for content
So much good stuff
Cheak?
The good part about demons being old is that if they get refreshed it will probably be by the Age of Sigmar team and will be really well done.
I'd prefer GW to bring back Juan Diaz, but that's sadly never going to happen. His chaos demon sculpts are amazing.
@@DMKA94dude I'm so happy I got a slaanesh army from back then. Those figs are amazing
24:30 i agree "Brad" Berilio needs a raise.
I can't be the only one that finds it funny that Brad and Eric start being more "comfortable" with asking for engagement and advertising their stuff and then Berilio came along, said "are you sure about that?" and sabotaged all over them.
which leads to even more engagement.
Berilio with the 4D chess over here.
I didn’t know the Slaughter Brute existed, never seen it before in AOS. Honestly, you should be allowed to take it in World Eaters.
You should be allowed to take a lot of things in World Eaters, not gonna lie.
The correct answer is to build it as a vortex beast and paint it red... Slaughter Beast looks nowhere near as cool.
It's always backorder, you'd remove it from thousand sons by adding it to WE
@@danielblanchette8593 or you know, if it became a popular enough kit because two armies use it and both really want it they could make more to sell more
It's attached to the mutalith vortex beast, insanely expensive, and either only available online or always out of stock. I can't be surprised no one has seen it.
I like that Berilio used the Chaos Knights logo for the surprise segment, just to show that it is, in fact, chaos.
My idea for a Sisters combat patrol instead of the travesty they gave us:
-A Palatine
-A Battle Sister Squad
-A full unit of Repentia
-A full Retributor Squad
-A pair of Penitent Engines
This is 475 points and about 285 dollars MSRP. I wanted to do a Castigator to get to 500 instead of 475, but I think the bean counters would poo-poo it as it edges over 300 dollars of kits with the new values. And I went with a Palatine over a Canoness because A) every other box gives you a Canoness, and B) the Palatine can lead all 3 of the infantry units, which gives you list variety.
EDIT: *WELL DAMN IF THOSE POINT CHANGES WEREN'T A KICK IN THE TEETH.*
Lore wise it makes sense to have more Palatines than Canoness’ anyway.
(Especially now with the jump canoness existing too)
This is pretty much what I'd consider acceptable too. Sacresancts are dog (but do look cool), Flagellants aren't Sisters, Canoness' are a dime a dozen and without penitents it's missing a stand out unit.
Sorry the best we can do is a canonness with jump pack, 3 units of 3 flagellants and a rhino.
throw out the Repentia and Penitent Engines and you could do a Castigator
@@knightsljx If you do that, the box doesn't even clear 400 points. Sisters unfortunately have very low point values per kit, so hitting 500 points for under 300 dollars while also feeling emblematic of the army is tricky. In the long run, repentia and penitents are more representative of Sisters' theme than a tank, and buying a Castigator down the line would be cheaper than buying the kits to fill out Repentia and Penitents.
Id argue that the future Tsons character will be a Sorcerer in Terminator Armor as an official model. Every army is getting a new model this edition.
So I think the future list will be
Tsons Sorcerer in Terminator
10 x Rubric
5x SOTs
10x Tzangor
I'd prefer new models with new rules. Wishful thinking: new space marine 2 game focuses on TS and progresses the lore that gives us more troops and at least a psychic dread. Imagine demi-awakened rubric elites. Much better than one model refresh.
I want them to double down and remove the terminator and add another 20 zangors bcs it would be so fckn funny
but have you considered:
1. The khopesh is the coolest sword in 40k
2. X on Disk are cool
3. Lorewise there exists 1ksons who dual wield Khopeshes
KHENETAI ON DISK OR RIOT
@@danielbalatoni3622ts sons using they powers to control Tyranids so you get more tzangor esque units lol
Withe the death guard, you know there's a 3 marine pack right? throw that in, make it a squad of 10. Plus the 3 pack is stupid expensive so the """value""" of the box goes way up as a selling point
That’s actually been removed from the GW online store last I checked, which makes me hopeful they’ve realized it was stupid and they’re just squishing it into the regular plague marine box
41:40 to be fair, LEGO used to suggest buying multiple Bionicles at the end of the instructions if you wanted to build the voltron'd Bionicles
Lol the Slaanesh Combat Patrol was basically the AOS Slaanesh Vanguard box with Fiends added.
Brad’s Slaanesh list IS possible and logistically easy.
The old Start Collecting box that they discontinued is 10 Demonettes, 5 Seekers and the Exalted chariot and the instructions explicitly told you how to assemble the chariot. I didn’t even know it was two chariots when I did it. It’s a good start point for Slaanesh.
I love Von Carmian! He does have really good insight into the game and if you play GSC or Sisters of Battle, he is basically mandatory viewing
Especially GSC, he has a lot of kitbashing advice for characters that is crucial when you are starting out.
That vtuber bloke had great insights that helped me during the building process of my sisters of battle. I think that the vtuber gimmick was very static and needless to the content to the video, but his advice was applicable, concise, and more importantly, the only thing in the UA-cam search that seemed whatsoever relevant to what I was trying to find.
Thank you curious vuber.
What's their channel name?
@@ShadowCoH316 It's a mouthful! "40k Vtuber: Christian Von Carmian"
@@ShadowCoH316 Christian Von Carmian
Christian von Carmian is great, and his advice is phenomenal. Funny to complain about his being a VTuber on a channel where the personalities are actually static images, lol
he's also a british vampire
Saying the British are in last place at understanding the correct pronunciation of the English language is the best example of the Dunning-Kruger effect that I've seen today. Good job!
The foetid vs fetid thing comes down to the character/diphthong œ. Medieval english had several characters like this, like æ, which in turn is why grey and gray are both valid spellings of the color, it used to be græy.
A couple cracks at the chaos undivided demons boxes: demon prince, bloodletters with a bloodmaster, nurglings, screamers, and seekers. Comes to a total of 270 at new Msrp. Plague bearers, poxbringer, 6 flamers, skull cannon, and fiends. 256 at new Msrp. Both meet the points requirements of at least 500
Love the Christian Von Carmien shout out!
Hello Poorhammer! I’ve been watching for about 4 months, dipping my toes into the hobby. Using your rules from the last episode on this, I’ve made a SM patrol im really proud of:
10 assault intercessors as Battleline troops
5 Sternguard Veterans as elite ranged
Brutalis or Ballistus dreadnought as a centerpiece
And Chaplain as the HQ unit.
Love listening to you guys, Can’t wait to finish my Salamanders!
I would buy this
I don't even play Space Marines anymore and I want that box
@@christophersmith8848 thank you! I honestly just picked them cuz I thought they were cool
@@tomasmichaels642 That is the best reason
A dreadnought is another tier over a impulsor btw
Brad 100% chose the Subductor Squad for the cute Puppy.
Your Slaanesh Daemons CP is the Start Collecting Slaanesh Daemons with a Contorted Epitome
But Brad, aren't YOU a vtuber?
That "Bradelio" bit was great.
As an Imperial Fist player, and as someone who wants Brad to suffer, I’d like combat patrols of codex compliant chapters, just smaller versions of the Christmas boxes from a few years ago. They’d be terrible because each box would be led by the named characters like Tor Garadon or Darneth Lysander for Fists, but having fists, Raven Guard, Salamanders, Iron Hands, White Scars, etc. talked about would be fun
Plus with the Space marine wide range of units there hopefully wouldn't be too much overlap with eachother. + throwing it out there, seeing every loyal legions themed combat patrols on the shops shelf could be more helpful to new players. Instead of "Where are the rest of them?"
@@notjarek237 yeah, heavy intercessors and aggressors for fists with a vindicator showpiece, flamers with salamanders, inceptors with raven guard maybe
@@Corcook How many points are jump pack assault intercessors? Those might be neat for a Raven Guard box. Or for a proper Blood Angels box.
@@SilimSavertin they’re only 80 points
Salamanders: Gravis Captain, 3 Aggressors, 5 Intercessors, 10 Infernus, & Brutalis. Nice and fluffy with about a 40% discount
(I'd also accept a Gravis Apothecary & 3 Eradicators instead of the Captain/Aggressors)
After the first episode I tried to fix the new necron combat patrol and it makes me so mad because it's an awful discount box but the perfect entry point for necrons because it gives you a taste of the 3 C's of necrons, Command, Canoptek, Cdestroyers. Especially considering the push to make Destroyers all melee with the codex
ok, cdestroyers got me good. XD
It’s a travesty of a box which doubly hurts since it’s just last editions starter box with a Doomstalker added
Man Brad is so nice giving Berillio a raise!
So fuckin happy when you went with Mutalith Vortex 13:09 spot on Centerpiece monster
Christan von carmin mention RAHHH!!!!
It's good to hear that Brad and Eric will be raising Berillio's paycheck and offering him an extra meal! So kind of them!
the secret combo box at the end is exactly what i was hoping it was
@38:00
bloodletters, flamers, beast of nurgle, slaanesh charriot
basically the same thing you were going for but swap the slaanesh/tzeentch selections
one of each god, 37% discount, and shows off what each of the gods "does", slaanesh is fast, nurgle tough, khorne hits hard, tzeentch shoots and is weird
works for getting multiple because every one of those units is something you would happily field 2 of
These servitors are very entertaining to watch.
Oh my gosh I didn’t know Berillio *cough* I mean Brad did that apology 😂 This is why I like listening to the Podcast and watching the videos 24:23
Of note with the votann patrol, the new unit they got in the latest kill team would fit well in place of the thunderkyn
Berílio's ABSOLUTE ROASTING on the audio version is better. I love listening to you guys at work. But as always, Berílio's video editing makes watching the yt edit completely worth a second listen.
I’d say the logical next step is a collab with Von Carmine. I’d watch a start collecting GSC or sisters video he guest stars in.
Oh hell yeah. About to start work and I see this pop up to work too. Perfect timing
you did my new Votann justice and while I have already purchased what I want for the time being, if they made that combat patrol a thing, I would probably buy two more of those
About the Exalted Seeker Chariot, GW used to sell an exalted box in addition to the regular chariot and in a surprisingly useful cheap move just printed one set of instructions for both boxes.
Actually due to an FAQ earlier this year, you could have ran pure agents with knights being splashed into them. Granted, you don't get an army rule - But it would've made the box be able to have multiple characters and infantry squads. It's technically legal!
Holy crap you shouted out Von Carmian.
That’s awesome
I have to say, we dont need them for anything! BUT I FREAKING LOVE the littel Price tag animations from this episode :D
The Druk CP is kinda perfect in its way mechanically, but I also always felt like it should have representation from the 3 Druk subfactions.
I feel like the ravager could be replaced by a Talos and Reavers, and it would still have a big centrepiece model, but also representation from the Cults and Covens. Talos/Cronos are expensive and having one in the CP would have been so nice.
ohhh, good to see christain von Carmian in here 👋
I confess my sin of peaking ahead at chapter titles. May the Holy Emperor forgive my soul as the Commissar gives me a bolt pistol lobotomy.
James gonna find your location and send in the Pinkertons to get all your ideas from inside the box.
"These are terrible together. Chaos undivided just doesn't work." is the most chaos thing ever lol. Even in sprue form chaos can't get along.
This is by far my favorite type of video you guys make. It is just so cool hearing your thought process on making box sets!
You guys are awesome! Thank you for another great episode and for getting back to your fan mails
I just discovered Poorhammer Podcast recently and I have been loving it!
The consumer specific episodes (cheapest/most expensive armies, etc) are the best content on this channel. Something about the lists, value discussion, and comparisons to other products hits my tism just right😊
Ok, I'll admit, I knew Eric was going to do a 'knight' combat patrol, but I was thinking Grey not Imperial...
Another thing to consider with the current boxes; GW is trying to alternate the types of models within the faction that you get in the discount boxes.
To do a proper imperial agents box you make it one and done and just one of every Non-assassin agents kit clearly
thank you for what you do, I always look forward to watching your podcast. You all are the reason I got into warhammer and I’m glad I did!
This is such a fun exercise to do! Please do a video for the AoS spearhead boxes some time aswell!
Awesome episode, I was thinking about the idea of a Chaos Knights/Daemons soup Combat Patrol when I saw this episode pop up - glad to see there was something similar cooking here 🔥
berelio (don't remember how to spell sry) is the greatest! I love every time he inserts a little cameo, so fun. He deserves a cookie
you got me brad. I was curious at the start and looked at chapter titles to see what combat patrols you did.
I love how so many warhammer channels I watch make a point to mention each other! Great episode as always!
It's a long shot but a night lords combat patrol would be sweet
Seeing the last section makes me think GW should bring back the witch hunters from 3rd edition.
A note on the Lord of Virulence, in 10th it's currently a very popular unit alongside Mortarion and 3 Plagueburst crawlers, letting their mortar hit on 2s and ignoring cover, and if it's not alone it's usually leading Deathshrouds where its ability turns them into a very nice overwatch threat, plus they're generally tankier than Blightlords.
My personal dream DG combat patrol would be 2 boxes of plague marines, either the standalone icon bearer+a Biologus Putrifier/Foul Blightspawn/Tallyman OR the Chosen of Mortarion box (something that doesn't sell well because it's so overpriced), and then some combination of Foetid Bloat Drones, Myphitic Blight Haulers, and Poxwalkers to make up any price difference.
By having 2 units of Plague Marines and either the icon bearer or the champion from Chosen of Mortarion you could build them as intended OR turn it into 3 units of 5. Considering there's legitimate merit to running 60 plague marines that'd make it a nice box to buy multiples of.
Alternatively, make a box with a Foetid Bloat Drone and a Lord of Contagion, plus literally anything else. Currently the Lord of Contagion is impossible to get first hand because it released in the Dark Imperium box on the same sprue as a Foetid Bloat Drone. Even if it's locked behind a $150 box, it'd be nice to have some way to get the model.
The mutalith vortex beast actually does have the Daemon keyword in the index.
Honestly I didn't check after so long of it being a "Totally not a daemon" due to the old WHFB holdover stuff.
Realistic Sisters Combat Patrol ideas:
Oops all Sisters (340 points, $225):
- 10x Battle Sisters Squad/Dominions/heavies can be used as Retributors
- 5x Retributors
- 10x Sisters Novitiate Squads
- Palatine (or any other Sisters character)
This is pretty nice because you can't have enough regular Sisters (BSS/Dominions/Retributors) and including the Retributors means you can actually have Multi-Melta in your BSS. The Novitiate squad is nice because you can use it in Kill Team, but it's also a perfect kit to kitbash characters out of.
Maximum Dual-Building (330 points, $225):
- 10x Battle Sisters Squad/Dominions/heavies can be used as Retributors
- 5x Seraphim/Zephyrim
- 2x Mortifier/Penitent Engine
- Palatine (unfortunately no good dual-build characters)
Obviously would be nice to fit in more kits/points, but I used the same layout as the current Sisters CB (3 squads and a character) and tried to maximize dual-building kits. If you're willing to kitbash the Palatine to other characters (or accept a smaller discount) you can buy 6 of these before you max out your Mortifier/Penitent Engines and you still wouldn't have maximum amounts of the other two kits.
Penitent Host Theme box (530 points, $238):
- 10x Battle Sisters Squad (required Battleline, but also kind of needed for value because we don't have many Penitent squads)
- 10x Arco-flagellants
- 2x Penitent Engines/Mortifiers
- 10x Repentia Squad
- Ministorum Priest (yes I'm cheating a bit giving away a "new" character, but he's the most thematic option)
Box doesn't personally excite me all that much, but it would be a great starter for the new detachment.
Trying to get close to 500 without pushing the limit or committing to Penitent (480 points, $239):
- 10x Battle Sisters Squad/Dominions/heavies can be used as Retributors
- 10x Arco-flagellants
- 3x Paragon Warsuits
- 1x Palatine (or any other Sisters character)
This is basically what we got with the Canoness swapped to Palatine and Celestian Sacresants swapped to Paragon Warsuits, but this gets us a tiny bit more value (but still well within margins) and gets much closer to the 500 point limit.
My dream Combat Patrol that pushes the limits while staying within the rules would be the Oops All Sisters list plus a box of Seraphim/Zephyrim. It would only be 410 points and $287 MSRP, but it would be a cool box that gives you the core of your army. Getting the special weapons on the Seraphim sprue and more weapon options from the full BSS box and Retributor box would be really nice for people who bought lots of the old CB.
Finished painting my first minis just now, skit rangers. Would love to see fixing admech combat patrol
I knew this would be a good morning. Cheers lads looking forward to seeing what y'all cooked up!!
Normal exalted sorcerers look so silly with they fart cloud lifting them up
Hah, my guess was Agents of the Imperium, and I was half correct!
I also love that Berillio's impression of Brad, for some reason, sounds like a sad cartoon dog.
I’m fine with whatever you guys do for more combat patrols, I find them interesting to look at and think about what an equivalent in The Old World would look like
I hope Admech is in this one
Honestly, the old AdMech box was great. Enginseer, Skitarii, Kataphrons, Onager? That's a great way to go.
Skitarii x10
Sicarians x5
Skorpius
Maniplus or dominus
Perfect for buying 2 of as all of the kits except the HQ is multipart
Brad, as a DG player. Your choice in the Tallyman. Is perfect, I NEVER leave home without mine because he is fun at the worst of times. Rolling for his CP and getting to announce if he is "Tally's his Bananas"
Poorhammer podcast you guys make every Tuesday morning/afternoon going in to work or volunteer have a happy little event
You didn't need to mention the Vtuber to make that point. You wanted us to know about the Vtuber
Yeah, because Von Carmian is awesome.
My cope take is that once they have all of the god specific CSM legions released this edition they’ll change it to god specific factions probably for 11th which is when they could start updating some of the older kits.
Color me impressed, I didnt thought you could do the last one
Had yo do a double take to check if it was posible too, also nice Von Carmian shoutout
I feel with the last one, it’s what Knights should be. An ally to bring sometimes.
More like the Mercs from Warmachine, a mix of random stuff from smaller factions from the lore and named characters. Make it so you can have a limited amount of points of them in other armies. Even limited which can join certain factions . Then have the army to at can be a bunch of random units all fighting together.
You could have detachments based around who is your Warlord, like the knight one or inquisitors or a grand alliance so you could get other units from factions.
One thing about the "Chaos Deamons" combat patrol, it's actually perfect. the fact is all you need is one and you have an army for both settings to get into warhammer, because all those models in it, are in both settings, have current and always be present rules and are fine if not fantastic repeat buys. if you really wanna go ham on the dog spam karanark is a fine low cost option for summons in both settings as well. or go heavier khorne and grab some khornite berserkers and the like. then boom you have a roughly 500 point list for both settings for that one friend who has friends who plays both.
That tsons combat patrol has an amazing spread, it just looks super varied and fun. I'd definitely be tempted by that!
Helverin, Warglaive, Callidus/Vindicare, and one of the infantry like voidsmen or exaction squad may be best and would hit about 500 points for a Knight Combat Patrol. I'm a Knight player and I include a Vindy in all of my lists simply because I like the idea of a precise sniper picking off characters while Knights push forward and do Knight things.
Had a friend trying to get me into the actual Warhammer 40k game since I only read the books and played some of the video games. I basically wrote it off since my favorite faction is the Thousand Sons, and he also knew how bad their box was. Now, I'm tempted to just run the list that you all gave and see if they want to run regular rules instead of combat patrol.
Loved the hungrier Brad cut and the chapter division in the vid, specially the second to last one.
I now space marine get too many boxes but maybe for the fourth version of this chapter you could do a white scars or iron hand combat patrol, just to make people dream that they will get more lore
Great episode as always boys
Let’s go, 2nd editor meal! He in the money now!
I came up with a different Tyranid Combat Patrol:
1. A Swarm lord which can also be made into a Hive Tyrant or Flying Hive Tyrant.
2. 20x Termagaunts.
3. 2x Ripper Swarms.
4. 3x Hive Guard which can also made into Tyrant Guard.
5. A Lictor.
27 Models.
510 points minimum, 565 maximum.
I am sure it's too good a deal, but thought it was a good start for a new player and the right amount of points.
A Biovore/Pyrovore could replace the Lictor to bring the model count to 30 with spore mines and 20 Hormagaunts could replace the Termagaunts but you probably don't want two of that box with 40 Hormagaunts.
The thousands sons one reminds me of the 9th Orks Box, leader unit, 10 battle line, three flying boys, one big guy that kinda represents the faction
You caught me with that timestamp!
never knew the slaughterbrute even exsisted untill this video 10/10
On the AoS side DoK boxes have been a consistent source of Doomfire warlocks(and probably only since people don't like a squad of dudes in their all female force) despite them being able to be built as some cities cavalry thing. The powers above are OK with including kits with out of faction build options.
If I have for designed a miniature war game, I'll definitely need to take notes on these starter boxes because they just look fantastic!
I bought 2 Enlightened boxes. It felt bad, but I love playing them. They definetely belong in a Combat Patrol.
Rewatched the last one for this episode!
Wow Brad, I'm so happy to hear that you're feeding Berilio a second time each day now!
I'd tried my to make my own Chaos Daemons Combat Patrol some time after watching the first one, and ran into similar issues for going undivided - it's hard to fit good representation for all 4 in. However, I think if you cut out one of the Gods - Khorne, since he had his own Combat Patrol & this one could accent it with the other Gods - you might be able to do something cool?
1 unit of Daemonettes as your Battleline, for 110 points & 42 USD.
1 Infernal Enrapturess for 60 points & 45 USD. The Enrapturess is a medic, but it also can work as an anti-tank option with its Euphoric Blast, and is cheaper in points than the Contorted Epitome so the rest of the list can work better.
1 unit of Flamers of Tzeentch at 75 points & 37 USD. Originally I went with Screamers for more speed, but I think some shooting better represents Tzeentch, and these are still as fast as the Daemonettes. Should work with either in terms of price & points, though, if there's a reason that Flamers can't fit in here that I'm missing.
1 Beast of Nurgle at 70 points & 58 USD. It serves as a tough distraction piece, & I think should represent Nurgle's "slow but hard to hurt" theme as well as his goofier side.
1 Daemon Prince of Chaos (with Wings) for 195 points & 84 USD. It serves as a centerpiece and is fast to match the secondary theme, and you can build it as any of the Gods - including Khorne, so the box still can have Khorne rep on its own.
With the kits costing a total of $266 MSRP, the discount box being $168 gives us a respectable 37% discount. It also ends up at 510 points, though goes up a bit to 515 if the Prince is built without wings.
Great episode, guys!