Grading Every Faction's Cannon Fodder

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  • @Baatosanabe
    @Baatosanabe 10 місяців тому +1366

    For sisters, you could have chosen Novitiates.
    Still trained, but not in power armor.
    Hits on 4s, 4+ save, T3 , and 1 wound a pop and they are 85 points.
    Arcos do win lore wise, but right now they are much more valuable than Repentia and novitiates in game.

    • @thepoorhammerpodcast
      @thepoorhammerpodcast  10 місяців тому +724

      I'm just pinning this one because it seems to be the popular comment of the Novitiates bunch. I'm gonna be real with you, I forgot them entirely while doing the final picks. They absolutely were the pick.
      Solid A/A-

    • @TrinityShoji
      @TrinityShoji 10 місяців тому +18

      That was my thoughts exactly

    • @counterhitasmr9196
      @counterhitasmr9196 10 місяців тому +10

      I'm glad someone said this before me lmao

    • @Axquirix
      @Axquirix 10 місяців тому +4

      Popped down here to say this lol.

    • @ElricTheWhiteWolf
      @ElricTheWhiteWolf 10 місяців тому +38

      @@thepoorhammerpodcasti’ll actually come to Brad’s defense here.
      Although Novitiates is the correct choice in the tabletop, lore wise Arco-Flagellants still take the win. They are heretics whose fate is an act of punishment, so not only are they expendable, it is a genuine benefit for the Sisters that they perish in combat.
      Great episode regardless!

  • @mikoajciemiega8018
    @mikoajciemiega8018 10 місяців тому +2278

    I once again ask for every faction terminator

    • @kraftyevan
      @kraftyevan 10 місяців тому +55

      Please get this guy some likes, this needs to happen.

    • @Sawarynk
      @Sawarynk 10 місяців тому +28

      ​@@kraftyevanby the Emperor's will, let's make this happen

    • @Frank_T_T
      @Frank_T_T 10 місяців тому +4

      I second this

    • @Nick_the_Salamander
      @Nick_the_Salamander 10 місяців тому +2

      Yes please 🙏

    • @MrShukaku1991
      @MrShukaku1991 10 місяців тому +2

      Agreed.

  • @SockimusPrime
    @SockimusPrime 10 місяців тому +1145

    Gretchin got robbed. They're A+ material. This is that situation where the teacher got stuck in a rut looking at other assignments, and forgot it was the "Cannon Fodder" episode, not the "Guardsmen Equivalent" episode.

    • @dinkledord7026
      @dinkledord7026 10 місяців тому +177

      WE WUZ ROBBED!

    • @Blundabus1337
      @Blundabus1337 10 місяців тому +147

      DAYZ RACIST TO DA BOYZ

    • @artemis1297
      @artemis1297 10 місяців тому +102

      WEZ SHHOUDLA BE S TIERS

    • @noahtekulve2684
      @noahtekulve2684 10 місяців тому +57

      If they were comparing to guardsmen, they should have done a squad of 10 boyz. What the hell

    • @schmendrake
      @schmendrake 10 місяців тому +99

      for real "orks option fits TOO well so we have to penalize?" come the fuck on.

  • @caboose759
    @caboose759 10 місяців тому +804

    Orks, we need your Cannon fodder Assignment turned in.
    GOTCHA BOSS
    *Proceeds to put gretchin into actual cannons*

    • @Gurmudgin
      @Gurmudgin 10 місяців тому +56

      Look, warboss said to submit the cannon fodder assignment. thus, we did, I see nothing wrong here.

    • @SoulofMusic666
      @SoulofMusic666 10 місяців тому +13

      Was absolutely formulating an ork response on our behalf... but this is too good. Well done!

    • @robrib2682
      @robrib2682 10 місяців тому +9

      the shock attack gun truly is a vibe

    • @StarkMaximum
      @StarkMaximum 10 місяців тому +10

      Step 1: Find a gretchin
      Step 2: Put the gretchin in the cannon
      Step 3: Find another gretchin

    • @ulture
      @ulture 9 місяців тому

      that's not how the phrase works though. "cannon fodder" doesn't mean "food for our cannon", it means "SOMETHING TO FEED TO THEIR CANNON"

  • @DominatorLegend
    @DominatorLegend 10 місяців тому +521

    Tonight on Poor Gear
    Brad declares war on the UK
    Eric defends Grot rights
    And Berilio sponsors an arms dealer

    • @ArchangelAzriel1223
      @ArchangelAzriel1223 10 місяців тому +9

      I'm so happy to see this coming over from the AdRic comments section. Hoping it gains traction.

    • @carlossanblas5807
      @carlossanblas5807 10 місяців тому +2

      And they dont know how pink horrors work xd

  • @Skitarii_Boi
    @Skitarii_Boi 10 місяців тому +876

    I HATE ADMECH BEING A HORDE I HATE ADMECH BEING A HORDE I HATE ADMECH BEING A HORDE I HATE ADMECH BEING A HORDE I HATE ADMECH BEING A HORDE I HATE ADMECH BEING A HORDE

    • @unheardtuna1998
      @unheardtuna1998 10 місяців тому +46

      Don’t we all

    • @jreuben97
      @jreuben97 10 місяців тому +36

      I keep hearing this sentiment buy not why.
      Like defensively let's compare them to 3 other units, battle sisters, basic space marine and imperial guard infantry.
      Lore wise, they are worse then space marines, better then guard and I'm not sure how they compare to sisters, but I would think skitarii are more disposable then sisters. The stats line up with that, so what do you want?

    • @unheardtuna1998
      @unheardtuna1998 10 місяців тому +127

      The issue for me is that I got into Admech because they’re the tech guys with fancy equipment and big vehicles. However our shooting is bad and our vehicles aren’t anything to write home about. So being pushed into playing as a horde isn’t why I got into the army and it makes me frustrated.

    • @tusk1026
      @tusk1026 10 місяців тому +50

      @@jreuben97a big problem is that they are expensive as fuck

    • @Ninjat126
      @Ninjat126 10 місяців тому

      Combat servitors and Tech-Thralls already exist, Tech-Thralls even have current models (in FW resin).
      They're just random people who get scooped up, butchered, lobotomized, and have a single-shot lasgun grafted on to their body.

  • @TheRealCatoSicarius
    @TheRealCatoSicarius 10 місяців тому +606

    I, Cato Sicarius, know that the Astra Militarum are more than just ‘Cannon Fodder’.
    They also make good meals, if what I, Cato Sicarius, read in the nutrition facts on Corpse Starch is true.

    • @JustinTheMid
      @JustinTheMid 10 місяців тому +40

      Holy crap it’s Cato Sicarius

    • @TheRealCatoSicarius
      @TheRealCatoSicarius 10 місяців тому +45

      @@JustinTheMid hello citizen. I, Cato Sicarius, believe the correct ancient Terran term is: “Jesus Christ, it’s Jason Bourne.”

    • @panzermasterwalker4393
      @panzermasterwalker4393 10 місяців тому +1

      Damn I knew he was chaos lol jk jk

    • @TheRealCatoSicarius
      @TheRealCatoSicarius 10 місяців тому +18

      @@panzermasterwalker4393 cannibalism, though a morally questionable theoretical, is a very efficient practical.

    • @oskarrussjohansson4302
      @oskarrussjohansson4302 10 місяців тому +6

      Oh my god, the real Cato Sicarius, I’m a big fan.

  • @ThePadsta108
    @ThePadsta108 6 місяців тому +65

    I feel like playing down the Fall of Cadia to "they just renamed the next planet over" is overlooking the whole "GIANT WARP STORM THAT SPLIT THE GALAXY IN HALF" a tad.

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner 2 місяці тому +2

      What's that? I can't hear you over the sound of this rolflmao awesome meme lore!

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 Місяць тому

      Daddy Cawl is going to fix it.

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner Місяць тому

      @@kyle857 Sure he'll fix it, yeah that's going to happen. Then he'll kill Abaddon all by himself and surpass the Necrons in technology and close every warp rift ever and revive the Emperor and then bring back all the primarchs.

  • @jo_ken
    @jo_ken 10 місяців тому +280

    So I’d argue SM Scouts should get a better grade than Custodes’ Sisters of silence. From a lore perspective it’s probably waaaaaaay easier to find a SM candidate and train them up to a Scout than it is to find a blank (a female blank specifically) and bring them to Tera to then train them to be a sister of silence.

    • @mouthwide0pen
      @mouthwide0pen 10 місяців тому

      the scouts get a worse grade because scouts are just spessmen and sisters are made of wet paper

    • @chrisgregory3955
      @chrisgregory3955 10 місяців тому +41

      While I agree, I have to argue that Sisters of Silence should have been a fail. They're not cannon fodder at all and only seem like it when compared to the rest of the Custodes army.

    • @M3RUL3Z
      @M3RUL3Z 10 місяців тому +23

      @@chrisgregory3955 tbf SoS are treated like trash by GW in game. Even in lore they only really exist to be anti psyker wards and fold immediately against any of the elite threats they're supposed to stand up to in actual battle.

    • @Docktavion
      @Docktavion 9 місяців тому +1

      It also depends on the Marine faction where the scouts come from or are used. Eg space wolves or black Templar

    • @davidj3841
      @davidj3841 7 місяців тому

      Sisters of Silence aren't found. They're gathered from a secret planet. Probably a planet where blanks are more common

  • @cristhianmlr
    @cristhianmlr 10 місяців тому +107

    -"We are meant to be expendable, sir"!
    -"Yes you are"

  • @FhtagnCthulhu
    @FhtagnCthulhu 10 місяців тому +116

    I wanna say that: as a person who graded college students for a few years: grades were influenced by how tired I was, how many drinks I had, when my deadlines were, and very importantly: how legible was your answer?
    These factors generally only worked in students favor though. I once gave full marks to a kid that wrote "MOON GRAVITY MAKES TIDES" next to a drawing of the earth and moon.

    • @Edithae
      @Edithae 10 місяців тому +14

      I mean, he's not wrong? 😂

  • @bobmaxjohn1306
    @bobmaxjohn1306 10 місяців тому +128

    32:07 a MIKEBURNFIRE AND ZACHAZARD REFERENCE

    • @redrix1787
      @redrix1787 10 місяців тому +26

      This was extremely unexpected, but welcome none the less

    • @koelkastkkn
      @koelkastkkn 10 місяців тому +7

      A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one

    • @amycox7508
      @amycox7508 10 місяців тому +3

      I want a collab between them somehow

    • @CymruGoch_
      @CymruGoch_ 10 місяців тому +9

      @@amycox7508 have zach react to 40k guns with poorhammer explaining lore. I feel like Zach would have some things to say about a bolter

    • @elpolloelastico
      @elpolloelastico 10 місяців тому +2

      Mikeburnfire jumpscare!!

  • @christophersmith8848
    @christophersmith8848 10 місяців тому +42

    Brad pretending that Krieg isn't just the Imperial Fists of the Guard is my favorite storyline.

  • @Bishop5466
    @Bishop5466 10 місяців тому +125

    For sisters, Novitiate squads are definitely a solid A - slightly better stats than a guardsman but they're still packing lasguns at T3 4+ W1

  • @zramirez5471
    @zramirez5471 10 місяців тому +129

    So the Terminator thing is a good idea, but I'd be far more interested in "Every factions' cheapest way to TAKE OUT a block of terminators" - that's right, every factions' best (cheapest) Terminator terminators

    • @isaiahkoufos3573
      @isaiahkoufos3573 9 місяців тому +3

      Let him cook

    • @MrShukaku1991
      @MrShukaku1991 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, I like this vein of thought. Less "here's every factions version of this unit" and more "here's every factions unit that does "Thing" the best."
      Like each faction's best Melee Blender, or each factions best "Bucket O' Dice" unit.

    • @philipschorr5145
      @philipschorr5145 6 місяців тому +1

      Might I suggest "Terminator exterminators"?

  • @TarotNathers
    @TarotNathers 10 місяців тому +42

    27:53 Actually no. Guardian Defenders are the equivalent of the National Guard. The only actual standing military are the aspect temples. The only reason they have better statlines over a baseline human is that, even if a human trained all their life to be the best guardsman, an Eldar with no training is still a better fighter by default. They’re just that fast/controlled/precise naturally.

    • @asgerlakkenborg2435
      @asgerlakkenborg2435 10 місяців тому +10

      And they psychically interface with their guns. They can fire the weapon or eject spent magazines with a thought - makes it easier to concentrate on aiming.

    • @An_Amazing_Login5036
      @An_Amazing_Login5036 10 місяців тому +6

      There's a difference between human national guard where someone might have bootcamp training and refresher training once yearly the next 30 years vs bootcamp training and 300+ years of refresher training before you're considered combat-capable

  • @troutwarrior6735
    @troutwarrior6735 10 місяців тому +38

    “They’re not that good”- my 20 man Krieg squad with a 5+ FNP, Necron level regeneration, and six special weapons that can hit on 2s would like a word 😂

  • @thedestroyerofhats
    @thedestroyerofhats 10 місяців тому +116

    The lore people seem to use blank and null completely interchangeably

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 10 місяців тому +38

      Pretty sure they’re the same thing. Not sure but I believe Pariah is another name for them.

    • @AceTaxiaGaming
      @AceTaxiaGaming 10 місяців тому

      And untouchable​@@collecter343

    • @brianhopple2630
      @brianhopple2630 10 місяців тому +14

      Agreed. They are interchangable.

    • @cyborgspaceman
      @cyborgspaceman 10 місяців тому +24

      @@collecter343 Pariah is something different, it involves Necron stuff, but it's like a type of Blank. If a blank is empty presence in the warp, a pariah is negative presence. Not well defined, gets retconned every 3 editions, especially since they took that unit away from the Necrons.

    • @NSGrendel
      @NSGrendel 10 місяців тому +15

      @@cyborgspaceman @collecter343 Pariah is literally a word meaning outcast and psychic blanks have been referred to as all three. The Horus Heresy describes Sisters of Silence as having the Pariah gene. I've read most of the Warhammer 40K fiction and Codexes since Rogue Trader and I've seen all three used. Necron Pariah's were a Necron/Human Pariah hybrid unit that were dropped - likely because of the complicated lore/narrative issues they may have presented and because you want to retain distinction between your brands.
      And probably because since they occur at a trillion to one ratio to normal humans, Trayzyn was the only person capable enough to find the required human specimens and he got fed up of filling pick requests all day and quit his job at Necrozon.

  • @Kerberus262
    @Kerberus262 10 місяців тому +103

    GSC and Termagants are both S, because not only are they the quintessential cannon fodder, both in lore and statline. GSC are very Guard, and Termagants are infinite in-lore. In addition, both regenerate models/units in-game, so they are actually *better* cannon-fodder than Guardsmen.

    • @masterworklongsword
      @masterworklongsword 10 місяців тому +32

      Fun fact: Termagants are made specifically to force their prey to waste all of their ammunition. They're literally fodder for cannons!

    • @Dovakhin94
      @Dovakhin94 10 місяців тому +7

      GSC have a strat that if a character would loose a wound it can be allocated to a unit within 3" so they basically throw themselves in haems way.... Its called unquestionable loyalty

    • @nebulonian1385
      @nebulonian1385 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@@masterworklongswordAnd Gargoyles are increasingly literal, hurling themselves into the guns on Tyran to prevent them from firing! If Nids do one thing right, it's cannon fodder.

    • @caelumemerald1875
      @caelumemerald1875 10 місяців тому +1

      Guard can come back

    • @arnekrug939
      @arnekrug939 10 місяців тому

      Guard comes back with Death Korps Medics and Reinforcements strategem.

  • @veritusahriman9720
    @veritusahriman9720 6 місяців тому +4

    Gretchin A+ or riot, they're so into the cannon fodder realm they've gone above and beyond the assignment perimeters.

  • @JochenHendrickx
    @JochenHendrickx 10 місяців тому +69

    space marines: the Lamenters. all of them. honourable mention to the Celestial Lions, but only against orc snipers

    • @RanVor
      @RanVor 10 місяців тому +7

      Any mention of Ork snipers gets a like from me.

  • @LollipopKnight2
    @LollipopKnight2 10 місяців тому +57

    At last, my army gets to shine! For what it's worth, I think that the Cadians are even better cannon fodder than other Guard infantry: their ability means that you don't even need to care enough to keep them alive to hold the point.
    (Also, New Cadia doesn't really negate the Chaos W. Even if the diaspora survived, they aren't actually serving the actual purpose of Old Cadia, just a little home for the refugees from the disaster. That chokepoint is well and truly ripped open by Gork's Grin.)

    • @LollipopKnight2
      @LollipopKnight2 10 місяців тому

      @kingofdragons117 and @ThatGuy-bh9qh I was referring to who is best at being cannon fodder, as with the topic of the video,, not who is the best unit in general.
      I think all of the Guard infantry have their advantages, though Krieg and basic Infantry are probably the best standard line infantry overall.

    • @Ninjat126
      @Ninjat126 10 місяців тому +3

      Cadians are so good at holding the line that the line can stay held for a bit even after all your Cadians are dead.
      Krieg aren't durable but they're "tarpit durable." Basically anything can kill them, but if you don't kill ~19 of them in a single round then they get 1d3 back.

  • @George-dm7pm
    @George-dm7pm 10 місяців тому +60

    Grading Every Faction's Distraction Carnifex

    • @specs.weedle
      @specs.weedle 9 місяців тому +3

      it’s DISTRACTION CARNIFEX in all caps, you heretic
      lurk moar

  • @icholi88
    @icholi88 10 місяців тому +37

    @9:45 Null or Blank are used interchangably at lot in the lore anyway, no sweat. Typically, when they try to codify it in some sources Nulls are Negative Psychic presence and actively harm Psykers and blanks just dont have a psychic presence. Its 0 vs-1 on a scale. Necrons are Blank while Culuxus assassins are Nulls. One does not interact with/can't be mentally corrupted by the warp and the other actively shunts it.
    Visiably the biggest difference is if you use warp powers to make a lightening bolt it will probably still kill a blank because you used warp energy to create a physical object but a Null would prevent you from ever summoning the power to begin with while they are both immune to the mental damage or effects because they don't have souls to hear the whispers of the warp in the first place.
    I say this but the writers are kinda inconsistent between which name means which and often people use the terms interchangably, partly because the writers don't know the difference and partly because in setting its not likely that most characters would ever know the difference either so... it kinda makes sense people get confused.

    • @12halo3
      @12halo3 9 місяців тому

      Out of lore it should just be the same rating system for Psykers.
      Alpha null/blank
      Beta null/blank
      Names should be interchangeable but with a prefix to note strength
      So even if they mix up the names you can probably figure out the level with context.

  • @alucardwesker6807
    @alucardwesker6807 10 місяців тому +27

    I actually give my Tzaangors the chainsword and pistol option only because I think it actually looks cooler and helps distinguish them a bit from my daemons.

  • @MatchaMakesThings
    @MatchaMakesThings 10 місяців тому +25

    My only complaint with Poorhammer is that i have to listen to the podcast version for more 'real' and uncut versions, and watch the video versions for the visual jokes!
    Love the show guys! Thanks for making it!

  • @roachbagjr9358
    @roachbagjr9358 10 місяців тому +7

    You guys should do a “Book report” Episode where each Faction gives you their “Best” Book. Infinite and The Divine is the Benchmark to beat

  • @Spahrrow
    @Spahrrow 10 місяців тому +11

    So eldar guardians are literally civilians that have been drafted in times of crisis. They could be bakers, artists, whatever.

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum 10 місяців тому +9

    This is a very Brad-coded episode, because it lets him relentlessly make fun of Space Marines for not having a good unit for the assignment, he gets to pick a Tzeentch daemon as the pick for Chaos Daemons, _and_ he gets an excuse to rank Tzaangors very highly.
    There's also a great moment where he makes a joke about how Poxwalkers may have _been_ a Guard at one point, and then scolds Eric for making the exact same joke with Flayed Ones later because it's not funny.
    Also for some reason Eric popping back in to shill merch during the outro, to the point where the music and the scrolling Patreon names immediately stop until he finishes, was absolute comedy gold to me for some reason.

  • @dattebenforcer
    @dattebenforcer 10 місяців тому +27

    Mordian Glory actually makes Imperial Guard work super well.

    • @Anaught-tbrk08
      @Anaught-tbrk08 10 місяців тому +7

      The video from Winter SEO's channel where Mordian Glory brought an entirely infantry army is probably one of my favorite YT battle reports of all time

  • @vahlok2568
    @vahlok2568 10 місяців тому +9

    *Brad saying the fall of Cadia didnt matter as a chaos win.*
    Every MFer stuck dying slowly in Nihilus: 👁️👄👁️

  • @RocketHarry865
    @RocketHarry865 9 місяців тому +5

    Honestly Grey Knights need to be folded back into the Inquisition army. That way they can have Inquisitorial Stormtroopers as cannon fodder

  • @bggooch13
    @bggooch13 10 місяців тому +109

    There's a nerd named Rob watching this. Hi Rob.

  • @christopherglade5693
    @christopherglade5693 10 місяців тому +4

    25:50 “when you’ve got an overachieving student and you need to knock ‘em up” - Brad

  • @Maladjester
    @Maladjester 10 місяців тому +4

    Warboss: *_We need kannon fodda!_*
    Boy operating kannon:

  • @ianderk6527
    @ianderk6527 10 місяців тому +8

    As a teacher for two decades, the “you get better grades when surrounded by fuckups” is true

  • @plaidpvcpipe3792
    @plaidpvcpipe3792 8 місяців тому +4

    27:12 So drukhari is a smart kid with ADHD that is failed by the school system because they're compared to the neurotypical space marine nerds?

  • @MuphynDragon
    @MuphynDragon 10 місяців тому +14

    Oooo a mike burnfire quote in my poorhammer video. Im all for these niche crossovers!

  • @Mini-magnet_monster-40000...
    @Mini-magnet_monster-40000... 10 місяців тому +3

    I'm not a master of lore, so I may be wrong, but cadia falling was more about making the eye of terror stretch across the galaxy by destroying the black pylons. My understanding is it was just a eye shaped hole and now splits the galaxy in half. So now chaos marines can enter real space at any point on a line that stretches across the entire center of the galxy.

  • @Oimfiel
    @Oimfiel Місяць тому +1

    13:06 You're gonna find d6 Pipe Bombs in your PO box

  • @Tankshock55
    @Tankshock55 10 місяців тому +12

    Good to know that the Eric and Brad are Lions fans. Now I have a more engaging point to make as a Packers fan.
    I was also really hoping the Lions would have made it and won the Super Bowl so then we could all crap on the Vikings for not having a Lombardi yet.

    • @thepoorhammerpodcast
      @thepoorhammerpodcast  10 місяців тому +19

      Brad here, REAL TALK:
      I'm actually a Packers fan because I'm not a masochist and I grew up with the 90's/00's Lions. My mother is a giant Lions fan and I have always enjoyed watching her lose her mind shouting at the TV every Sunday and winning every bet we made on a Packers/Lions game every year growing up. (The Packers won young me many video games including Pokemon Yellow.) The Lions screwing it all up this year annoys me because it's the first year I've seen my mother so happy about her football obsession.

  • @ZaylidinOfficial
    @ZaylidinOfficial 10 місяців тому +14

    Now this is the video for me! Cannon fodder units are always my favourite, I run a guard army with 140 infantry and dream of having fodder armies for other factions, though I worry about where I am going store all those hordes!

  • @amycox7508
    @amycox7508 10 місяців тому +4

    33:24 actually that’s not true good sir! The LOV are a fairly large size, GW has directly stated that there much larger than current lore Tau (keep in mind they’ve grown a lot in lore since release).
    And the hearthkin in particular aren’t even full time soldiers, and are more like a militia, meaning there pretty expendable.

  • @benytreeide568
    @benytreeide568 10 місяців тому +5

    It would be interesting if you kept track of the grades you give each faction and then present their "report card" at the end of the episode to see which is the best at satisfying all these criteria.

  • @gstellar96
    @gstellar96 10 місяців тому +38

    Must suck to be the "poster child of cannon fodder"

    • @choo-choo4922
      @choo-choo4922 10 місяців тому +2

      Its kind of part of the appeal with guard for me, when my lil fodder do well it feels very heroic and I dont really care if they die cause I can bring them back with a strat

    • @austinbowser4559
      @austinbowser4559 10 місяців тому +7

      Imperial Guard is gigachad because your opponent has fun getting to kill tons of units and I get to enact my sci fi fantasy of commandeering hopeless hordes of soldiers to meet their demise against deadly xenos.
      Bonus points for being the one army that gives everyone a true sense of how terrible it is living in the 40k universe.

  • @Stormwern
    @Stormwern 5 місяців тому +1

    A good analogy for the gretchin: You were asked how many planets are in the solar system, and instead of just answering correctly you went out and found a new planet to make sure the rest of the class was wrong.

  • @joshy7759
    @joshy7759 10 місяців тому +6

    1:50 krieg were cool when I was getting into guard, but if I see one more wehrboo fan or shovel meme I'm gonna eat a fucking krak grenade.

  • @Nolsie
    @Nolsie 10 місяців тому +24

    The Gretchen and imperial guard deserve the dual A+ gold standard tier.

    • @milliondollarmistake
      @milliondollarmistake 10 місяців тому

      Nah Gretchin are a little too swarm-like imo. They're not quite Nurgling level but they're closer to that than the guard

    • @Butternades
      @Butternades 10 місяців тому +6

      @@milliondollarmistakethe episode is cannon fodder. They are literally used as projectiles for the Big Mek with Shock attack gun you. Cant get more cannon fodder than literally being used as ammo

    • @digitalpickleridgy2971
      @digitalpickleridgy2971 10 місяців тому +1

      Technically speaking the main ammo for the shokk attack gun are actually snotlings which are a different species of orkoids​ which are smaller than grots @@Butternades

    • @michaelrussell3890
      @michaelrussell3890 9 місяців тому +3

      Gretchin are S+ tier

    • @milliondollarmistake
      @milliondollarmistake 9 місяців тому +1

      @@michaelrussell3890 they literally said in the video multiple times that they weren't looking for the overt swarm unit. otherwise ripper swarms would have been the pick for nids or nurglings for chaos

  • @sideswipe2615
    @sideswipe2615 10 місяців тому +3

    31:53 I’ve never heard the phrase “roadside picnic” used in this way. Is that common? It was just really trippy because I was just thinking about STALKER and felt called out.

  • @zousssnotzeus5341
    @zousssnotzeus5341 7 місяців тому +1

    when i play guard i always tell my opponent that "the tanks are for me to have fun, the infantry is for you to have fun" because there job is to bee smooth paste on the walls and whoever im fighting always enjoys helping them fulfill there job

  • @StarkMaximum
    @StarkMaximum 10 місяців тому +3

    Also, regarding Brad being upset that they just found a new planet and called it New Cadia, that's just how _people_ are, Brad. If you blow up my house and I get a new house, I'm just gonna call it New House. Keeping the name preserves history, it reminds you to not make the same mistake again, and it makes naming things after a tragedy _very_ easy when those people might not be feeling super creative at the moment. Saying it negates the Chaos win just because they made a new one is more than a little ignorant to narrative and storytelling.

    • @isaiahsmith6016
      @isaiahsmith6016 10 місяців тому

      Not gonna lie, calling the planet, "New Cadia" is just asking for trouble.

  • @Oberkaptain
    @Oberkaptain 10 місяців тому +11

    Guardsman Steve is indispensable.

  • @ImAnUndeadUnicorn
    @ImAnUndeadUnicorn 10 місяців тому +2

    "Its not the longest book I've ever wridden." Well, with that English I'm just happy you can read!

  • @MortRotu
    @MortRotu 10 місяців тому +2

    What's even funnier about the Cadia jokes is: originally chaos didn't even outright win the 13th black crusade, they controlled the surface but orbit was all the Imperiums.

    • @es68951
      @es68951 10 місяців тому

      The planet fell before the fleet!

  • @jayjester4843
    @jayjester4843 10 місяців тому +2

    Gretchen are the answer to your question. They were robbed. A+ for Gretchen.

  • @javierrodriguez-batllori733
    @javierrodriguez-batllori733 10 місяців тому +20

    Can we Imperial Guard fans have some love with a subfaction video? GW gives us nothing

  • @ravenRedwake
    @ravenRedwake 10 місяців тому +3

    4:41 well the Emperors Janitors probably can’t be on here since they’re movie marines as an official army.

  • @Knight1029
    @Knight1029 10 місяців тому +2

    I really love the end section where the submissions gets painted. It looks really good.

  • @МакспростоМакс-и9в
    @МакспростоМакс-и9в 10 місяців тому +8

    Poxwalkers and jackals have feel no pain
    It’s funny that in this video it makes them better, but in the same time, it makes their grade lower

    • @reginlief1
      @reginlief1 10 місяців тому +2

      This series is about whether each faction can copy the function of a unit archetype, rather than perform well in their own way.
      I personally think that makes this series a bit lacklustre, but that’s their goal.
      So here, if you aren’t doing what guardsmen do, you aren’t earning the high grades.

    • @12halo3
      @12halo3 9 місяців тому

      @@reginlief1 Than it would just be just a lackluster stat block review channel. I already know what most of these units are supposed to be good but having a bunch of models being compared to the poster child space marines or another faction with unique specialization is more entertaining. Also, they discuss these units outside the vacuum that many other channels do like price and typically avoid meta gaming.

  • @FelipeBudinich
    @FelipeBudinich 10 місяців тому +1

    34:08 Leagues of Votann need the Adrian Tchaikovsky treatment.

  • @diverlawn3491
    @diverlawn3491 10 місяців тому +4

    I have a feeling that Grey Knights wasn't present for the lesson and got "cheap squad that holds points and doesn't do all that well in combat" and their mind went to the strike squad because they are part of elite army club and it warped their perspective

    • @uwesca6263
      @uwesca6263 10 місяців тому

      They also missed the anti tank lessons as well as "how to hold a hammer".

  • @Beriorn
    @Beriorn 10 місяців тому +1

    When the Chaos Knights cannon fodder has a good shot at 1v1ing most armies' characters.

  • @LucK_7s
    @LucK_7s 10 місяців тому +4

    Damn I came here for 40K not to be reminded of what happened to the lions this year.

  • @eyez274
    @eyez274 6 місяців тому +1

    1:31 Hey, Golden Sun.

  • @Illindi
    @Illindi 10 місяців тому +3

    Def. of cannonfodder is thay you throw them forward to chew enemy ammo. The flaggios seems very good for this ;)

  • @CelticSamoan
    @CelticSamoan 10 місяців тому +1

    Yall are absolutely devious in your commentary of academia. Almost frightening.
    Knocked it out of the park on your picks too I wanted to quibble on a few but ended up nodding when yall hashed it out. Great vid fellas

  • @platinumsamurai2395
    @platinumsamurai2395 10 місяців тому +3

    3:26 Brad go cry to your false gods #NewPlanetWhoDis

  • @neverendingribbon
    @neverendingribbon 10 місяців тому +2

    A Lions shoutout? On a Poorhammer podcast? This is truly the greatest crossover of all time and warp.

  • @azumaakazuma9305
    @azumaakazuma9305 10 місяців тому +3

    My Black Templar Crusade squads are the gold standard for space marines.

  • @michaelfitch45
    @michaelfitch45 10 місяців тому +2

    Warboss: send the cannon fodder
    *Boys load grenchins

  • @LordCrate-du8zm
    @LordCrate-du8zm 10 місяців тому +4

    Rate every faction's primaris lieutenant equivalent please.
    Like the "every faction's Terminator" guy, I will just keep asking.

  • @beastninjai8251
    @beastninjai8251 10 місяців тому +2

    Holy shit a mikeburnfire gun rant reference in my poorhammer! I love it.

  • @joshy7759
    @joshy7759 10 місяців тому +3

    0:40 *cracks knuckles in Guard*

  • @gamingborger
    @gamingborger 4 місяці тому +1

    there's a tzeentch player that comes to my local shop and i shit you not, she always brings one unit of pink horrors and no one's actually whipped it off the board XD

  • @EverianKalim
    @EverianKalim 10 місяців тому +4

    The Kroot bit has me cracking up

  • @blackvalordragoon
    @blackvalordragoon 10 місяців тому +1

    First of all Hell Yeah! to barellio with the golden sun clip. Such a classic. 2nd I think Brad only says guard infantry suck because he doesn't have a local guard player to make him suffer. xD but where they truly shine is spamablitity and versatility. You can build to fight anything. You can get anti anything, light or heavy infantry, armor, anti horde. Can include indirect fire, heavy weapons for any situations, leaders and orders for any situation .

  • @JB-yr6qt
    @JB-yr6qt 10 місяців тому +3

    Ah yes, the classic cannon fodder: IG. Had a friend who loved his Guard, and when he went to a tournament he would take a literal bucket of infantry, dump it in his deployment zone and say "Ok I'm deployed". As guardsmen inevitably died, he just tossed them back in the bucket. And if there was a scary thing like a khorne daemon prince on the board? He just fixed bayonettes and charged in one more squad at a time until the the game was over or the problem went away. To quote the man, "You know you won when the blood blender stops." He truly understood this assignment.

  • @mistamomo
    @mistamomo 10 місяців тому +1

    The basic Guardsman are actually a pretty efficient datasheet. 10 Guardsmen trade relatively well with similar units (Gaunts, guardians etc) . With orders they are very versatile, with a wide breadth of utility.

  • @Insane_IK
    @Insane_IK 10 місяців тому +6

    These are the best poorhammer episodes

  • @wookiee.gunner
    @wookiee.gunner 10 місяців тому +1

    TLDW: We used Imperial Guard because Grots are so good as canon fodder, no one else could keep up.

  • @ruvisnorako5687
    @ruvisnorako5687 10 місяців тому +3

    Wouldnt the noventia squad make more sense for sisters?

    • @thepoorhammerpodcast
      @thepoorhammerpodcast  10 місяців тому +3

      I'm gonna be real with you, I forgot them entirely while doing the final picks. They absolutely were the pick.

    • @ruvisnorako5687
      @ruvisnorako5687 10 місяців тому

      @@thepoorhammerpodcast omg a celebrity answered me! Video was still a blast to listen to.

  • @Basically_Anybody
    @Basically_Anybody 10 місяців тому +1

    Gretchin deserve the A+, they just did a bunch of extra work expecting extra credit.

  • @karlmbeal
    @karlmbeal 10 місяців тому +2

    Did not expect a Mike Burnsfire and Zach Hazard reference

  • @TotalTirpitz
    @TotalTirpitz 10 місяців тому +4

    29 seconds ago. HOT DAMN. No Views.
    That's it; I'm a trendsetter

  • @yeastov5470
    @yeastov5470 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember back in 5th edition when I played, Gretchin had a rule where you can throw them into a land mine to get rid of it. I don't even think land mines were a thing in 5th edition. They are the embodiment of cannon fodder.

  • @Mag_ladroth
    @Mag_ladroth 10 місяців тому +3

    I will unsub if guard isn't A+

  • @alexluksich5207
    @alexluksich5207 10 місяців тому +1

    These episodes are always fun, I would love to see one looking at all the titan sized models for each faction.

    • @tempusavatar
      @tempusavatar 10 місяців тому

      Congratulations, that episode is already done

  • @Bomfunker91
    @Bomfunker91 10 місяців тому

    I'm just here to extend a heartfelt thank-you to either you guys or the editor for including a Golden Sun clip while talking about Guard

  • @mistabrrrly
    @mistabrrrly 10 місяців тому +2

    As a fellow Michigander, the lions loss saddened me as well. But hell yeah jahkals getting a good score!

  • @thetherapist53
    @thetherapist53 10 місяців тому +1

    Jakhals get an 'A' because they bullied the Tzaangors into doing their homework for them, and the 'gors ran out of time to finish their own.
    Jakhals? More like JOCKhals, amirite? (im so sorry)

  • @p1k4nurxp13sr
    @p1k4nurxp13sr 2 місяці тому

    Catachan eating mushrooms and seeing Kroot Warriors: That was no microdose, Timmy

  • @isaacschmitt4803
    @isaacschmitt4803 10 місяців тому +1

    You guys should do each faction's worst concept unit. For instance, the Grey Knight baby carrier. Yo dawg, I heard you liked dude in armor with a big gun, so I put a dude in armor in a bigger dude with armor and a big gun.

  • @drexmartell9803
    @drexmartell9803 10 місяців тому +1

    Hands DOWN the best merch plug ever! Made me burst out laughing.

  • @catierambles
    @catierambles 25 днів тому

    funny story about the whole "dog ate my homework" a relative had a hardboiled egg she was supposed to take care of for Home Economics class. One night, our boxer, Zeus, ate it so the next morning she had to go into school and tell the teacher that the dog literally ate her homework. parents thought that was hilarious, teacher was probably tickled about it too. We had the same Home Ec teacher, and Ms. B was cool, she probably got a good laugh out of it

  • @fletcherpratt4281
    @fletcherpratt4281 10 місяців тому +1

    I’d love to see each faction’s Distraction Carnifexes

  • @milliondollarmistake
    @milliondollarmistake 10 місяців тому +1

    Cadia blowing up is still a Chaos win because old Cadia was key in keeping Chaos at bay. Cadia's death also opened the Great Rift.

  • @theunloadedrpg1376
    @theunloadedrpg1376 2 місяці тому

    14:50 reminds me of the cute moment in horus rising between garviel loken and tarik torgadon when they compete to slap a pipe in a hallway of a ship

  • @jonttopia
    @jonttopia 10 місяців тому +2

    How did orcs not get A+? Literally the most fodder of all cannon fodder. Lorewise only Tyranids seem to be more numerous and replaceable

  • @Sadistichippo
    @Sadistichippo 10 місяців тому

    You are back!! A week without an episode and I almost had to take up crack just to make it through the week.

  • @joshuasutherland6692
    @joshuasutherland6692 10 місяців тому +1

    Every faction's Smash Captain!
    Or not, you do you.