I've bought my TV due to your reviews 4 years ago. I don't know why but I still watch nearly every video of yours even though I don't plan on buying a new tv any time soon :D
Two years ago, when I bought my Sony xh90 80 inch, it was because of your review. I'm so happy to see how far this channel has come. Your unbiased, honest reviews of products is so fucking refreshing. I wish you nothing but success.
@@sj460162 It's the best purchase I've ever made, it didn't kill my budget and it has everything it needs to run my PS5 optimally. Budget friendly with amazing picture and the newer models are better then the one i currently have in that series, but it still kicks ass
Vincent, thank you for another very excellent and informative video! Sony's first A95L allocation/shipments in all screen sizes will start the week of August 21st to select dealers in the USA.
Thorough reviews and always precise, informative and not afraid to highlight any faults or issues. The innuendos always make me smile, keep up the good work and thank you Vincent.
You know Vincent, I really like how straight to the point you go from the start, I hate most of the intro from youtubers cause they talk like 2 or 3 min about things unnecessary, like they always start about something stupid as " today I will show you this product, I bought all kind of products from this brand before, this one I was not sure I need it... now I've been using for X month,... " and blabla DUDE WE DON'T CARE! Title is self explanatory already, there is no need to introduce the product, go straight to the point with your experience with it. Most of the youtubers still can't grasp this basic concept
@@loki76You would be wrong. Vincent said the A95L measured 1349 Nits on a 10% window in its most accurate mode. My A95K measures 1000 Nits in that same window, and all panels vary, but nowhere near 200% more brightness, and that’s why they revised that statement. The S95C uses the exact same panel, and it just barely gets brighter than the S95B…
The panel isn’t everything though. Sony has much better processing and heat control than Samsung. I am curious how this model works on pc though, that’s what I’m interested in. It’s this one vs the lg g3.
Yea but don't forget, he is so precise, that if he finds something wrong with the tvs, he waits till the quick fix patch is released, and only then posts the final review. Happened before.
@@IntotheFurther. *2024 S95D will match or exceed the performance of the A95L and will be lower priced and launch in February. Maybe A95L's successor will launch much earlier as well like in March.*
A95k 900 nits at 10% vs A95L 1349 nits 10% on par with s95c peak brightness I’ll will wait for final numbers when retail model get reviewed, so far so good only downside is 2 hdmi 2.1 or deal with Samsons quality control, broken bt2020 and firmware updates that will dim your tv
Doubt they’ll ever dim the tv again after such backlash last year! Also Sammy gives you access to the service menu. Couple adjustments to Ana peak and boom you have the brightest oled to date!
with the S95C - Keep it offline and use AV Forum BT2020 settings - it looks great and you don't need to switch to P3 ever. Save some money, but it isn't as pretty with the UI or finish and a touch short on motion. That is the choice haha.
I went with the s95b as my first OLED and the firmware makes me regret my buy. Horrible navigation, remote, menus, source changes etc. picture quality is really nice but I’ll never go Samsung again. Operating system feels like a cheap knockoff
@@KopfdesRiesen That was Exactly how I felt with the Samsung 90T and 90A (95a, here in the States in 2021 without the 1 connect box). I went with the Song 77 a80j and I was "Home" again. Full size remote that year, no retarded menus/interface/os ect... Better picture and processing than both LG and Samsung, and motion too, imo. Btw the 77in a80 was a badass that year, nearly the a90j, with the EV0 panel and Gloss finish instead of matte, also Sony's surface audio sounds better to me as well.
Thank you for mentioning how fast the brightness fades. That's the most important thing for me when searching for a new OLED. I want stable brightness when playing games and watching movies.
I can't wait for the Sony A95L to finally hit shelves here in Canada. It's definitely the TV I've been most looking forward to purchasing for a home theatre environment.
Sony A95L 77" is listed as $9495 in Australia, G3, you can buy around $6500, S95C around similar mark. They might make nice TV's but not at those inflated prices in Australia.
@RobertK1993 How are they supposed to sell at those prices? G3 and S95C, if you wait for sales, you can buy at almost 40%-50% less money, and G3 looks way better on the wall than Sony. Picture alone won't sell.
Sony has always been the premium brand, they dominated last year with the A95k, Samsungs S95B was subpar in comparison, if people cant afford the A95L, they can always buy Sony's "lower end" OLEDs that feature the same XR processor - which in itself is leaps ahead of any other TVs cinematic processing. A95L is an enthusiast level TV, it isnt for your average joe who watches Married at first sight. I wouldn't even classify a G3 or S95C enthusiast grade, its more like high end. Its like buying an RTX 4090 vs a 4080, or a Lamborghini Aventador vs Lamborghini Hurucan. Also I agree with your Aussie comment, eveything in Australia thats bleeding edge is always a ripoff.
@@BNR_248 I disagree with you, there is no substantial difference between A95K and S95B. You can fine tune S95B to look just as good as A95K. It is not always about the processor, other things matter, for example anti-reflective attributes, the thickness of the the TV, stand and wall brackets etc. Sony Does not tick all the boxes. Lower end Sony OLEDs are like shiny mirror surfaces, unless you watch in total darkness, unwatchable during day time with a bit of natural light. Sony are way overpriced in Australia, if the prices were the same as the USA market, they would have been worth considering. There is only a price difference of about $200 in USA whereas in Australia it is priced thousands more than a Samung or LG. They are not in a different league to LG or Samsung as you make it, they are not enthusiast grade, that is a lot of B.S.
I’ve literally checked UA-cam daily for the past 2 months waiting for Vincent’s take on the A95L. And especially the G3 vs A95L. Thank you so much, we await the final in depth comparison! But what was your initial take on the comparison between these 2 super beasts?
Thank you for the review I fond interesting that Sony basically waited for LG and Samsung to release their TVs so that Sony can make sure their TV performs better! Also too bad that WE are not in the US!
The 4K120Hz DV not being implemented on release makes me uneasy. Brings to mind the firmware update that A90J owners were promised “shortly after release” that would implement VRR. That took ages as well. Everything else about this tv sounds amazing and I’m definitely going to get a 65”! What I don’t understand is why Sony hasn’t implemented DV straight away? The Pentonic chipset supports it so what’s the issue? I’d really like a video on technical stuff like that. Also: I prefer G&T for calming down as well 😂
@@KopfdesRiesenSo far, the Sony PlayStation 5 does not support Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates. That appears to be exclusive to the Xbox Series X and/or Series S. Second, this is the first time that Sony made a TV that is capable of Dolby Vision at high frame rates, so Sony might need to develop the firmware required for its own Cognitive Processor XR video coprocessor to properly handle Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates.
This isn't a release version so it's possible the TVs will have it by then, but it's a legit reason to not preorder (among other reasons) if that's important to you.
Mediatek have been a disappointment Given that Sony after a few bios updates will have it going well - and Panasonic will have it mastered by next year to squeeze the most out - They won't use the 2000 - too expensive - and will think they will want to master the 1000 well across their range - being snappier is great - Panasonic when they use it should get better graduation , and control. Thankfully receivers now can do full bandwidth passthrough - shame Sony is so expensive in my country - but if they do a 83" QD-OLED next year - may bite the bullet - 1500nits is enough - 90% BT2020 is enough as little content beyond that - and colours still look great anyway on a Panasonic or G3 MLA - and unless sets side by side - you wouldn't know what you are missing and in 95% plus content -SDR and HDR - will look pretty much the same no matter MLA or QD-OLED
I have concerns about the Pentonic 2000 SoCs. First, the marketing material shows that the Pentonic 2000 is aimed at 8K at 120 Hz displays, and does not mention the ability to drive 4K displays. Can it even drive 4K displays, and if it can, is it limited to 4K at 120 Hz instead of 4K at 144 Hz which the Pentonic 1000 can do? Second, are all 4 HDMI 2.1 ports mentioned in the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material full speed or not? The Pentonic 1000’s marketing material including its web page previously advertised “HDMI 2.1 x4” just like the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material including its web page is still doing. This is technically true since all 4 ports comply with the HDMI 2.1 standard, but that standard does not require that full HDMI 2.1 speed be implemented in order to be seen as compliant. However, this could be seen as a lie by omission by leaving out the fact that full 48 Gbps speed is not implemented. The Pentonic 1000’s website was revised to remove the “x4” to obscure the lie by omission once Vincent Teoh exposed the lie by omission in another video. MediaTek also complained that implementing 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports is impossible without a second chip. So does the Pentonic 2000 SoC implement 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports due to having enough room due to using TSMC’s smaller N7 process that promises smaller transistors that could possibly allow all HDMI inputs to implement all current HDMI 2.1 speeds, or are 2 HDMI inputs limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds?
@@jnvivian Considering Pentonic 2000 uses Cortex A76 and G57 compared to Cortex A73 and G52 in the Pentonic 1000 I'm sure it will support full 4x HDMI 2.1
@HDTVTest did you ask Sony why they not using the Calman Ready features of the Pentonic 1000? and whether they intend to add support for it & 3D LUT via a software update?
Vincent!! thank you for giving us the new details Personally I would have pushed the higher apl windows and kept the highlights at a more modest level. It will still be a terrific set though
Seen all the other reviews of this TV but waiting for yours! If this comes out top, will then wait for the price gauging of UK consumers to subside before taking the plunge ...
Vincent I have a Sony 77" A95L on order in the USA. I am looking forward to your full review of the 77"..... Hopefully it will live up to expectations.
Great Video A95l in 77 Inch i waiting to comming on the market in Germany and interessing how great is in realtion to the lg g3 samsung s95c and from panasonic the mwz2004 who hold the crown in the oled this Year :)??? gratulation to the 506.000 follower on youtube :). I love your videos and so cool to see how many details Television and all.
Ngl … for all the hype surrounding this tv does anyone else feel a bit underwhelmed after that video. I mean no doubt we need to wait for the full release but still feel a bit disappointed. Please resolve that whole 4K Dolby vision 120 issue. Also at this rate I don’t think we’ll ever see 4 hdmi 2.1 ports 😕 Also a measurement of 243 full screen brightness is still lower than the 264 measured in the S95C.
So much for that 2X the brightness of the A95K, I told people, “don’t believe the hype”, just like my S95C turned out to be only slightly brighter than my S95B…
It's a funny marketing gimmick because a) the people who understand TVs knew the 2x claim was BS and b) the people who don't understand TVs don't care about peak brightness. So I'm just wondering who they were trying to fool
@@micker9830 That was on the updated press release they stated of “conventional” Oled, but the 2X I was referring to was the rumors people were spreading…
still the TV to buy between A95L and S95C. 499 $ is a laughable difference this year, so I gladly take better Image quality, even if its not brighter. Anyways I'am waiting if the S95D will be a lot better before I pull the trigger, but likely the A95L will still look better than even 2024 Samsung and LG, because XR Cognitive is still unmatched after all those years, which just shows other companies are unable to compete with that Chip.
Highest brightness I was able to measure from my A95K in december 28 2022 was was 910, but now it peaks at 743 nits. Makes me wonder if 20% reduction will happen over time to A95L as well. I'd love to see more long term testing in your reviews, as I never saw such things mentioned before. The biggest thing I'm disappointed about with A95L is that Sony still lacks HGIG / accurate tonemapping off mode. edit: 743 nit measurement was actually from, 3 months ago, re-tested now and it has declined down to 673 nits.
@@ejdhdjejejebdnem Same story for Mini LED (20% in first year) but no way on OLED in first 12 month! It has to be a "software-feature" like on last years Samsung OLEDs😁
U mean this Sony chip set has limitations to produce 4k120hz? If so that’s a bummer cuz it’s a lauded chip set in it? What about the same scenarios in LG G3 Is the G3 chipset also limited in a similar way?
@@leperlord7078 No, it’s a joke about how Sony TV’s have handled gaming features in the past. The X900H was promised with VRR at launch, and didn’t get an update till two years after the fact. Sony even at one point tried to cancel it entirely and only feature it on their newest models, but caved due to backlash. The other comment was again a joke about how Sony TV’s like the X900H had a bug (that was never fixed) that resulted in the 4K 120hz mode only rendering half the resolution and resulted in the 4K 120hz mode being a blurry mess. I still don’t think these latest Sony TV’s support Freesync/Gsync either, so they are still far behind in terms of gaming features when compared to LG or Samsung.
How is the BFI at 24p? From experience there is a huge difference between 24p and 50/60p BFI with these QD OLEDs. The flickering appears to be minimal at 24p with BFI, and the light loss isn't as bad either.
For 24p, why can't they just hold the frame on the screen until the next frame is displayed? This is a huge problem with oled....their UN-cinematic dealing with 24 frame motion! I have an old Panasonic plasma that doubles 24p to 48Hz and the motion for film is fantastic...why can't they do something for this sticking issue? Use AI or something...we don't need interpolation...we need the frame to be held longer.
what makes this issue confusion is people using the words "stutter" and "flicker" interchangeably. They are two very different things. "Flicker" would be, in the case of 24 FPS content on a 120Hz display, 1 frame of content followed by 4 black frames. Obviously they don't do this because the image would be so dim and flickery it would be unwatchable. People should say "stutter" instead of "flicker", because this is a sample and hold display (unless they enable BFI. I don't even know if you can enable BFI for 24 FPS content but if you did it would probably be terrible)
@@WilliamSmith-hf8um Even at 120Hz where they play the same frame 5 times, it doesn't matter...the last frame is displayed so quickly that stutter will happen in certain panning shots. My mother has a crappy and slow tcl, and yet it's butter smooth in 24fps content...the slow and crappy panel pays dividends there. With AI and all these other technologies , this better be the last generation of OLED with this egregious problem. I have held off from buying one for several years now and this issue is the sticking point for me. Either slow down the panel or find a way to continue displaying a frame on the screen...no interpolation or other such nonsense, just show me the 24fps as I would see in a theater.
@@lgmnowkondo938 According to RTINGS, OLEDs hold the frames longer on the screen because they are so fast in transitioning from one frame to another. The reason that slow TCL is apparently so good in 24 Hz motion is because it spends more time transitioning between frames due to its slow panel, so it spends less time holding the frame in a static state. Perhaps you need to enable some soap opera effect to mitigate the stutter on TVs with fast OLED panels whose speed exacerbates the stutter on low frame rate content to simulate the slower panel.
Do NOT believe Sony's promises for upcoming features in firmware updates. I bought the x900h on the promise of 4k120 and VRR, only to be disappointed that they didn't even work right! The 4k120 has reduced resolution and the VRR disables local dimming, garbage!
The frustrating thing with these new OLED's is the stagnation regarding larger sizes. I've been waiting two years plus for a 95-100" next-gen OLED for my home theater room to replace my 83" A90J. 77" just isn't large enough.
Hey Vincent, not sure if you were able to test it or not, but does the A95L suffer from the same ASBL that can’t be turned off as past Sony OLEDs? Appreciate your great work
@@jackdubs25 yeah I knew sdr gaming was an issue, as it is for most OLEDs. I’m wondering about HDR/DV scenes like the notorious house of the dragon scene Vincent showed.
FFS Sony, you always leave something off. No mutual 120Hz and Dolby Vision means no buy until you update it. No way I'm risking buying then hoping for an update that potentially might not arrive.
It will be a tough choice between A95L 77" and X95M 85" next year when the prices are pretty similar! Will keep the X95K 65" for a bright room TV in living room and set up one of those babies in the mancave.
Great video and informative as usual, Vincent. The price here ln this country has gone up due to inflation and weak Swedish Krona. I have been waiting so long for this L version and your test. I think we are many that are very interested in how you do a complete calibration of a TV, meaning the different steps from the first step to the last one. Surrounding lights, darkness etc. Thank you for your work All the best
I’m about to buy a new tv, should I buy a LG C3 or a Samsung S95C or a Sony A80L. I’m probably going to just get a 55” because it’s for my bedroom. My bedroom is fairly dark, I watch a lot of movies and TV shows and I game fairly often but I usually game on a dedicated monitor. I would like the TV to play nicely with my Apple products. Given all of this information which of the 3 TV’s I named would you recommend for me? Also, do you have a recommendation outside of those 3 but around the same price point/feature set. Thank you!
The Samsung does not play well with the Apple TV in sdr …. Lg has no issues … but if it’s c3 vs s95c and they are same price s95c better tech … maybe you meant g3
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ so s95c>c3? What about s95c vs g3? Idk why I thought the G3 was a considerably more expensive TV than the rest so I wasn’t including it. It appears the G3 is the same price as the S95C, and it’s the C3 that’s considerably cheaper than either. C3 is $1499, G3/S95C are both $2299. Just based off the price difference alone that may have just made my decision for me. $800 is a massive difference in price. I must have seen the price for S95B.
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ would you say at $800 dollars cheaper the LG C3 is a good choice for me even if the Samsung is a slightly better TV? Thanks so much for your response.
Hello. Always love your rundowns. I have the 2019 Panasonic 65GZ1500 from John Lewis and was thinking about getting a 77 or 83 OLED from Panasonic MZ2000 or the Sony in this review. Is the picture quality of these tv’s a big step up from my current tv or should I wait longer in your opinion until maybe next year or year after?
MediaTek has complained that it cannot get 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports to fit in one chip and that having more than 2 full speed HDMI ports requires a second chip. I do not know if this is due to an engineering skill issue, avoidance of a patent that could allow all 4 HDMI ports to be full speed, not having a small enough chip fab process, or having chip room taken up by components required to make the chip compatible with Android. For example, current versions of Android can’t run without a full hardware 3D GPU that can run the OpenGL ES API that can do both 2D and 3D graphics since the code that allows the CPU to emulate OpenGL ES in case no such GPU was present was removed a long time ago after full hardware GPUs became popular in mobile phone SoCs. Therefore, MediaTek SoCs that run Android must implement a full 3D GPU. Other TV OSes could be designed to run with much simpler 2D only graphics hardware, possibly making more room available for implementing full speed HDMI 2.1 ports. I think that if MediaTek requires second chips for more than 2 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports, it should be selling the required chips along with its SoCs to make this a reality.
@@RobertK1993MediaTek said the same thing about the Pentonic 1000 SoC, but previously lied by omission because while all 4 ports in the Pentonic 1000 are HDMI 2.1 compliant, only 2 of them are capable of full HDMI 2.1 speeds and the other 2 are limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds.
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Nothing to do with the video but I would love to see some content talking about CRTs and it's pros and cons against LEDs and OLED from today :)
CRTs maxed out at a resolution of 2048x1536 because even the highest end GPUs’ analog VGA ports maxed out at this resolution, are capable of showing colors within the Rec. 709 and sRGB color spaces which are much smaller than the DCI-P3 color space that the best LCDs (including so-called “LEDs” which are LED-backlit LCD displays) and WOLEDs are able to match, burn in as they age, are much dimmer than today’s LCDs and OLEDs, are extremely power inefficient, flicker especially badly if driven at low frame rates like 50i causing massive eye strain at such frame rates, have low input lag, have good viewing angles like both IPS LCDs and QD-OLEDs, do not smear high motion content unlike some older VA LCDs, have good blacks, and poor contrast due to being dimmer than LCDs and OLEDs. Many colors that the best LCDs, WOLEDs, and QD-OLEDs can show are impossible on CRTs since CRT phosphors generate very impure primary colors.
When it comes to sustained brightness, how long is sustained? I.e, if you put a 10% white patch, how long will it keep 1300 nits? 10 sec? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
Sounds like A95L will only be a minor upgrade over the A95K if I understand correctly. Which means the Samsung S95C will be a better deal. LG might look very good as well, but I cannot stand their OS or remote.
Go with LG MLA. Overall better choice. It's more polished and a more balanced experience. Better for gaming than Sony, better Dolby Vision implementation, better Sound Decoding, more and better HDMI 2.1 ports. Picture Quality on pair with Sony with irrelevant differences!
I recently saw the G3 at two Best Buy stores and while it provides a great picture, it did not provide that “WOW” factor compared to the Samsung S90C, S95C and the Sony A95K. ….and yes even if the A95L may be a bit underwhelming based on this video I’m pretty confident that it’s still going to have a better picture than the G3.
@@mmadan-jr3uq Lol, I’ve also owned the A95K, and S95B since launch. Picked up both the S95C, and G3, calibrated both, and while the G3 has a great picture, it still fell short of all my QD-Oleds, even my S95B looked slightly better. I returned the G3 back to BB, now waiting for the A95L to compare. It’s all a matter of personal preference, but simply adding a micro lense over pixels to amplify an image to make it appear brighter, won’t cut it against QD-Oled which still has the wider color gamut, and superior uniformity…
@@mmadan-jr3uq I own a S95B (FW 1204) that in my humble opinion looks better than the G3. But “looking better” is so subjective from one person to the next. One thing I notice is that when ever someone says that one of the QD-OLED panels just has that wow factor over the G3 all you hear is reliability and that 5 year warranty. That’s cute and all but I’m focusing on the beauty and pop of the picture of the panel. I’ll take my chances without the 5-year warranty. I’ve had my S95B since May of last year so I’m coming up on 15 months and it looks every bit as stunning as the first day I bought it. As I’ve said before… the G3 is a nice panel and no one would be upset if it landed in anyone’s lap. But if I’m being honest when you sit it side by side next to a QD-OLED panel it almost looks dare I say plain and boring. Also I game a lot and there’s no way I would ever choose that panel over my S95B or S90C or S95C. Also whether watching movies or playing games the uniformity advantage over w-OLED panels is the capper right there and the mic drop moment… everytime. There’s no beating that.
Many thanks Vincent. I respect your ability, knowledge and professionalism. Unfortunately, I live in NYC and cannot take advantage of your/ Crampton and Moore's custom calibration service. Would you or Crampton and Moore recommend anyone in my area?
C’mon Vincent..🤨..only 12?🧐 I could’ve watched some 4 episode of my favorite show in the same amount of time AND fiddled with the settings while doing so. 😌 | Ok jokes aside I luv..🤔.your work m8!..yes that’s what I luv..the most. Always a pleasure checking out if there’s any noteworthy developments between brands. Of course there almost never are..still interesting though. So thanks 🙏 for the content! ✌️🖖
One thing I think Vincent misses is that BFI could very well be a gamer-focused feature. The only problem is that most TV makers add lag with it. But if there was a low-lag implementation of BFI, it would be my preferred way to play games. I know lots of people think VRR is the best, but console games should be a locked 60fps anyway (if designed properly) and I'm fine with tweaking my PC settings more aggressively to maintain a locked frame rate to keep a smooth vsync (which you need for BFI)
BFI is only valid if you can keep 120hz and more in refresh rate. For TV content it would need to do interpolation by multiplying the image several time to reach high enough refresh rate to be tolerable. Somehow they usually miss this when they add BFI for TV broadcasts & content and they limit it to 60hz at best. (they never seemingly interpolate to 120+ hertz on many models) Wile BFI for PC connection capable of doing 120hz input they somehow miss to do the implement right for some reason or disable the setting when you use the 120hz input with PC or Game Console. Which is where you wanted it to actually be implemented.
@@nighthog7003 CRT TVs were all 60hz. And those are fantastic for games. Very smooth motion. So both 60hz and 120hz support is necessary. And honestly, if you're using with PC, arbitrary refresh rates in between would be incredibly useful. I still have a CRT PC monitor that I can use at 75hz, 80hz, 90hz, etc. Depending on the game I'm playing and the performance target my PC can handle
@@lulkLoganThat is wrong. In Europe and places that follow European standards, TVs run at 50 Hz, not 60 Hz. The eye strain resulting from CRT TVs in areas that ran on 60 Hz is tolerable, but eventually took their tolls on my eyes. The eye strain from CRT TVs in Europe and other places that ran on 50 Hz like when I previously temporarily moved to India for a job is painful to my eyes. I am an American, so I was used to 60 Hz CRT TVs at the time. Watching an LCD TV with 50 Hz video in one hotel was an eye strain-free treat, but moving to a hotel in a different city that had a CRT TV showed me that 50 Hz on a CRT TV is painful to watch. Perhaps Vincent Teoh dislikes BFI because the inherent flicker hurts his eyes. The smoothness that BFI brings is more than offset by the eye strain and pain it brings to some peoples’ eyes.
I'd love to see a compare between the A95L and the A80L... Unfortunately Sony doesnt deem my region worthy of the A95L so I'd have to settle for the A80L. Wondering what's the difference.
In my region too mate....last year no A95k only models available are the s95b and s95c with all lgs premium oleds. Sony really think they will hide behind that preserving creator's intent, processing and sony brand name to boost their sales. Not this time Sony.
I honestly don't see the point of QD-OLED if they don't have polarizers so blacks look grey with any ambiental light. It is going back to CRT and plasma days where people were going on about deep blacks but in reality it was only true if you watched it in a cave. I remember buying a Panasonic plasma that got rave reviews for its contrast that couldn't be matched by any LCD and yet when I got it home blacks were way worse than any LCD I had and were only good in a completely dark room. With all the other downsides to OLED tech like burn in, an OLED TV that doesn't have deep perceived blacks in normal viewing conditions just doesn't seem great to me. I'd take a less bright WOLED at this point any day.
Do you have the TV to judge ???? If you have so bright room, you don't need oled! If you use an oled in bright room, then you have to cranck it up! By doing so you degrade the panel qucker and those tv's are expensive! Bright rom - go miniled, dark romm - go oled! So Were is the lifted blacks???? If you wonder... i Have LG C2 42" -Monitor, S95B 55"- Bedroom and S95c 77"_ Living room(on lease) The QD-OLEDs are BETTER! Why do you think SONY goes for QD-OLED? They make the best TVs! Gain some EXPRERIENCE before HATING something!
OLEDs in general are best suited for dark room viewing, that said I have my light on all the time and my S95B looks stellar, the grey is only visible when the TV is off or if you shine a flashlight directly on it, neither circumstances that would exist while actually watching content
@@boriskamenov1842 I'm not "hating" on anything and I don't belong to any "team" or whatever. It's obviously a downside of the tech, why are you trying to make it not so? I'm talking about a normally lit room, most living rooms are not without any light. It's not just either a cave or direct sunlight conditions. It is fair enough that you think QD OLED is better, what I'm saying is I don't find any of its pros anywhere close to worth sacrificing perceived black depth.
@@mythoti That's the thing though. In reality blacks look exactly like when TV is turned off. With content your eye tricks you into thinking it is black but next to an actual black it is obviously not so. Exact same story as it was with plasmas.
Vincent, since you are the expert, have you done the research on new LG firmware update that supposedly fixes ABL aggressive behaviour? I have C2 and refused to update, i wonder if i should enable TPC and GSR back from service menu before updating the firmware?
I've bought my TV due to your reviews 4 years ago.
I don't know why but I still watch nearly every video of yours even though I don't plan on buying a new tv any time soon :D
But we also acting like we are planning to buy one every year 😀
Im buying a80l 83“. I got a heatsink and is glossy.
I've been watching for years and I've never bought a TV in my life.
@@ActuallyJamesS 😳😳😳
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Two years ago, when I bought my Sony xh90 80 inch, it was because of your review. I'm so happy to see how far this channel has come. Your unbiased, honest reviews of products is so fucking refreshing. I wish you nothing but success.
Are you still happy with your Sony tv? Im thinking about a new Sony
@@sj460162 It's the best purchase I've ever made, it didn't kill my budget and it has everything it needs to run my PS5 optimally. Budget friendly with amazing picture and the newer models are better then the one i currently have in that series, but it still kicks ass
Vincent, thank you for another very excellent and informative video! Sony's first A95L allocation/shipments in all screen sizes will start the week of August 21st to select dealers in the USA.
You will probably be the first to get them!
Thanks for dropping your advertising in his video. Real classy move.
The only TV reviewer I trust
+1, Vincent GOAT 🐐
Andrew robinson is also one to trust
@@nickthompson7369🥱🥱🥱
Like the saying goes:
"Second place is the first loser."
fact
He is the Tv God
Thorough reviews and always precise, informative and not afraid to highlight any faults or issues. The innuendos always make me smile, keep up the good work and thank you Vincent.
You know Vincent, I really like how straight to the point you go from the start, I hate most of the intro from youtubers cause they talk like 2 or 3 min about things unnecessary, like they always start about something stupid as " today I will show you this product, I bought all kind of products from this brand before, this one I was not sure I need it... now I've been using for X month,... " and blabla DUDE WE DON'T CARE! Title is self explanatory already, there is no need to introduce the product, go straight to the point with your experience with it. Most of the youtubers still can't grasp this basic concept
sometimes i have to go back from the start bc i feel i missed an intro.. I get used to watch all youtubers loong intro sequence..
Or when they force in cringey jokes
Sony revised its claim regarding the 200% brightness vs the A95K. It's now 200% vs 'conventional OLED' in their latest press release.
Well it seems it is 200% more than an A95K. Isn't A95K below 1000 nits. So in the vivid mode preset it's almost double.
@@loki76You would be wrong. Vincent said the A95L measured 1349 Nits on a 10% window in its most accurate mode. My A95K measures 1000 Nits in that same window, and all panels vary, but nowhere near 200% more brightness, and that’s why they revised that statement.
The S95C uses the exact same panel, and it just barely gets brighter than the S95B…
The panel isn’t everything though. Sony has much better processing and heat control than Samsung. I am curious how this model works on pc though, that’s what I’m interested in. It’s this one vs the lg g3.
1. 0:00 - HDR Peak Brightness
2. 0:42 - Latest QD-OLED 2.0 Panel
3. 1:54 - Mediatek Pentonic 1000 Chipset
4. 2:08 - Revamped User Interface
5. 3:00 - New "Professional" Picture Mode
6. 3:45 - New "Calm" Picture Mode
7. 4:07 - Global Picture Settings
8. 5:10 - Independent "Smoothness" Settings
9. 7:22 - 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision Status
10. 8:36 - VRR Input Lag/2.1 ports/No HGIG/
11. 9:32 - No 3D LUT Calibration/Calibration Findings/Sponsor
12. 12:05 - 77 inch Sony A95L Discussion
Thank so much.
Only about a month or less till we get some actual reviews on the A95L. My guess, Vincent will be one of the first, if not the first to do so.
Yea but don't forget, he is so precise, that if he finds something wrong with the tvs, he waits till the quick fix patch is released, and only then posts the final review. Happened before.
It's out in August
Hey Vincent, make sure to hunt down Sony about the Calman Ready feature. We need that 3D LUT functionality.
*It's August now and A95L hasn't launched yet. Might as well wait for 2024 QD-OLED TVs.*
Which will come out at this same time next year so it’s still over a year away. Might as well wait til 2030 lol
@@IntotheFurther. *2024 S95D will match or exceed the performance of the A95L and will be lower priced and launch in February. Maybe A95L's successor will launch much earlier as well like in March.*
@@bushgreen260 But then you have to buy a Samsung TV.
The Sony A95L preorders go up on August 21st 2023 and it releases on August 28th 2023
A95k 900 nits at 10% vs A95L 1349 nits 10% on par with s95c peak brightness I’ll will wait for final numbers when retail model get reviewed, so far so good only downside is 2 hdmi 2.1 or deal with Samsons quality control, broken bt2020 and firmware updates that will dim your tv
Doubt they’ll ever dim the tv again after such backlash last year! Also Sammy gives you access to the service menu. Couple adjustments to Ana peak and boom you have the brightest oled to date!
with the S95C - Keep it offline and use AV Forum BT2020 settings - it looks great and you don't need to switch to P3 ever. Save some money, but it isn't as pretty with the UI or finish and a touch short on motion. That is the choice haha.
I went with the s95b as my first OLED and the firmware makes me regret my buy. Horrible navigation, remote, menus, source changes etc. picture quality is really nice but I’ll never go Samsung again. Operating system feels like a cheap knockoff
@@KopfdesRiesen Exactly. Big difference to Sony. Samsung is like plastic fake tv. But Sony is bad for gaming.
@@KopfdesRiesen That was Exactly how I felt with the Samsung 90T and 90A (95a, here in the States in 2021 without the 1 connect box). I went with the Song 77 a80j and I was "Home" again. Full size remote that year, no retarded menus/interface/os ect... Better picture and processing than both LG and Samsung, and motion too, imo. Btw the 77in a80 was a badass that year, nearly the a90j, with the EV0 panel and Gloss finish instead of matte, also Sony's surface audio sounds better to me as well.
Thank you for mentioning how fast the brightness fades. That's the most important thing for me when searching for a new OLED. I want stable brightness when playing games and watching movies.
I can't wait for the Sony A95L to finally hit shelves here in Canada. It's definitely the TV I've been most looking forward to purchasing for a home theatre environment.
I've been WAITING for the reviews to start dropping on this tv
He is a great comedian, his jokes cracking even better because his attitude is always so over correct and serious
Sony A95L Bravo vincent.I can't wait for it to hit the shelves
While I'm out of the market, Vincent you continue to rock and I appreciate your consistent work sir, keep it up!
How subtly and with a serious face, he judged Taylor Swift 😅
Shake it off.
he cant judged Taylor Swift with just 500k youtube subscriber.
@@amirulasyraf1409I don’t have any subscribers and I CAN 🎉 TALENTLESS POP 🎉
@@amirulasyraf1409but he have 506k
Taylor take shit from no one. When she's done with ya, u r out.
Sony A95L 77" is listed as $9495 in Australia, G3, you can buy around $6500, S95C around similar mark. They might make nice TV's but not at those inflated prices in Australia.
Well it comes down in sales and Australia is a rip off.
@RobertK1993 How are they supposed to sell at those prices? G3 and S95C, if you wait for sales, you can buy at almost 40%-50% less money, and G3 looks way better on the wall than Sony. Picture alone won't sell.
Sony has always been the premium brand, they dominated last year with the A95k, Samsungs S95B was subpar in comparison, if people cant afford the A95L, they can always buy Sony's "lower end" OLEDs that feature the same XR processor - which in itself is leaps ahead of any other TVs cinematic processing. A95L is an enthusiast level TV, it isnt for your average joe who watches Married at first sight. I wouldn't even classify a G3 or S95C enthusiast grade, its more like high end. Its like buying an RTX 4090 vs a 4080, or a Lamborghini Aventador vs Lamborghini Hurucan. Also I agree with your Aussie comment, eveything in Australia thats bleeding edge is always a ripoff.
Doesn't help the Aussie dollar keeps dropping against the usd. Costs are insane.
@@BNR_248 I disagree with you, there is no substantial difference between A95K and S95B. You can fine tune S95B to look just as good as A95K. It is not always about the processor, other things matter, for example anti-reflective attributes, the thickness of the the TV, stand and wall brackets etc. Sony Does not tick all the boxes. Lower end Sony OLEDs are like shiny mirror surfaces, unless you watch in total darkness, unwatchable during day time with a bit of natural light. Sony are way overpriced in Australia, if the prices were the same as the USA market, they would have been worth considering. There is only a price difference of about $200 in USA whereas in Australia it is priced thousands more than a Samung or LG. They are not in a different league to LG or Samsung as you make it, they are not enthusiast grade, that is a lot of B.S.
I’ve literally checked UA-cam daily for the past 2 months waiting for Vincent’s take on the A95L. And especially the G3 vs A95L. Thank you so much, we await the final in depth comparison! But what was your initial take on the comparison between these 2 super beasts?
Has A95L released in the market yet?
It's called turn on Notifications.
@@manoharreddy8613Did you even watch the video?? 😂😂😂
@@PSYCHOV3N0Myou’re asking wayyyy too much of some of these lazy people…..
Thank you for the review I fond interesting that Sony basically waited for LG and Samsung to release their TVs so that Sony can make sure their TV performs better!
Also too bad that WE are not in the US!
The 4K120Hz DV not being implemented on release makes me uneasy. Brings to mind the firmware update that A90J owners were promised “shortly after release” that would implement VRR. That took ages as well. Everything else about this tv sounds amazing and I’m definitely going to get a 65”!
What I don’t understand is why Sony hasn’t implemented DV straight away? The Pentonic chipset supports it so what’s the issue? I’d really like a video on technical stuff like that.
Also: I prefer G&T for calming down as well 😂
I guess there is no real need for high refreshrate Dolby vision gaming because of the lack of support titles but I get it
@@KopfdesRiesenSo far, the Sony PlayStation 5 does not support Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates. That appears to be exclusive to the Xbox Series X and/or Series S. Second, this is the first time that Sony made a TV that is capable of Dolby Vision at high frame rates, so Sony might need to develop the firmware required for its own Cognitive Processor XR video coprocessor to properly handle Dolby Vision gaming at high frame rates.
This isn't a release version so it's possible the TVs will have it by then, but it's a legit reason to not preorder (among other reasons) if that's important to you.
0:19 Savage mode
Nice, the video is chaptered now. Good way to navigate. Great review Vincent.
"After 10 seconds, brightness will plummet...Which is as short lived as Taylor Swift relationships" This made my day! You're awesome!
You had me at "enemies lurking in the dark"
I pre-ordered the A95L 77 inch. It says delivery August 22th. Can't wait! 😊 I'm pretty confident it will be TV of the year 🎉
not surprised to see you here. lol. us Singularity guys really do think the same lol
@@TechDoneRight1 😆
It better be "TV of the year" given it costs more than its competitors, at least here in North America.
I've been eyeing the 77A95L, but I took an oath I will never buy another TV until my 75Z9D dies, and to this day it's still going strong. 😀
we wanted 2000 nits at 10% window and 400-500 nits in 100% window. Sony trolling us with 1% window brightness lol, good marketing thou.
Looks like Pentonic 2000 will be the real upgrade worth buying
Yes exactly what I was thinking 😂🤦
Mediatek have been a disappointment Given that Sony after a few bios updates will have it going well - and Panasonic will have it mastered by next year to squeeze the most out - They won't use the 2000 - too expensive - and will think they will want to master the 1000 well across their range - being snappier is great - Panasonic when they use it should get better graduation , and control. Thankfully receivers now can do full bandwidth passthrough - shame Sony is so expensive in my country - but if they do a 83" QD-OLED next year - may bite the bullet - 1500nits is enough - 90% BT2020 is enough as little content beyond that - and colours still look great anyway on a Panasonic or G3 MLA - and unless sets side by side - you wouldn't know what you are missing and in 95% plus content -SDR and HDR - will look pretty much the same no matter MLA or QD-OLED
Shouldn't Sony have used that in 2023 4K Bravia TVs
I have concerns about the Pentonic 2000 SoCs.
First, the marketing material shows that the Pentonic 2000 is aimed at 8K at 120 Hz displays, and does not mention the ability to drive 4K displays. Can it even drive 4K displays, and if it can, is it limited to 4K at 120 Hz instead of 4K at 144 Hz which the Pentonic 1000 can do?
Second, are all 4 HDMI 2.1 ports mentioned in the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material full speed or not? The Pentonic 1000’s marketing material including its web page previously advertised “HDMI 2.1 x4” just like the Pentonic 2000’s marketing material including its web page is still doing. This is technically true since all 4 ports comply with the HDMI 2.1 standard, but that standard does not require that full HDMI 2.1 speed be implemented in order to be seen as compliant. However, this could be seen as a lie by omission by leaving out the fact that full 48 Gbps speed is not implemented. The Pentonic 1000’s website was revised to remove the “x4” to obscure the lie by omission once Vincent Teoh exposed the lie by omission in another video. MediaTek also complained that implementing 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports is impossible without a second chip. So does the Pentonic 2000 SoC implement 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports due to having enough room due to using TSMC’s smaller N7 process that promises smaller transistors that could possibly allow all HDMI inputs to implement all current HDMI 2.1 speeds, or are 2 HDMI inputs limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds?
@@jnvivian Considering Pentonic 2000 uses Cortex A76 and G57 compared to Cortex A73 and G52 in the Pentonic 1000 I'm sure it will support full 4x HDMI 2.1
@HDTVTest did you ask Sony why they not using the Calman Ready features of the Pentonic 1000? and whether they intend to add support for it & 3D LUT via a software update?
Dolby vision, Dolby atmos and 4K 120hz should be a must at this price point.
Vincent!! thank you for giving us the new details
Personally I would have pushed the higher apl windows and kept the highlights at a more modest level. It will still be a terrific set though
Seen all the other reviews of this TV but waiting for yours! If this comes out top, will then wait for the price gauging of UK consumers to subside before taking the plunge ...
So far things looking good for the A95L. 😊
Vincent I have a Sony 77" A95L on order in the USA. I am looking forward to your full review of the 77"..... Hopefully it will live up to expectations.
Always learning with your detailed technical analysis and comparisons on TV's. Thank you Vincent!
When will you review the Panasonic MZ2000?
So you are telling me you did all that testing in 4hrs? That too at an unknown place without full used to setup. 👏
I'd love to see something like that "calm mode" on other brands tvs. I already use equivalent modes on my computer and smartphone.
Great Video A95l in 77 Inch i waiting to comming on the market in Germany and interessing how great is in realtion to the lg g3 samsung s95c and from panasonic the mwz2004 who hold the crown in the oled this Year :)??? gratulation to the 506.000 follower on youtube :). I love your videos and so cool to see how many details Television and all.
Vincent, great in depth short look. As always your a benefit to the industry.
You're or you are.
NOT your.
Fingers crossed for 83” version next year.
I was thinking 85 at least
@@stepheng8779 the bigger the better!
42 48 inchs
Finger crossed for 83 Inch MLA OLED 😁
Peak Nits graph already with Panny MZ2000. Great. Looking forward for review.
Vinny is like David Attenborough for TVs
Vincent is the man! Thanks a lot for the hard work and the quality of the videos!
Ngl … for all the hype surrounding this tv does anyone else feel a bit underwhelmed after that video. I mean no doubt we need to wait for the full release but still feel a bit disappointed. Please resolve that whole 4K Dolby vision 120 issue. Also at this rate I don’t think we’ll ever see 4 hdmi 2.1 ports 😕
Also a measurement of 243 full screen brightness is still lower than the 264 measured in the S95C.
Would actually be a great feature... if Taylor Swift came across your screen, the TV would only display her for 10 seconds! 😊
So much for that 2X the brightness of the A95K, I told people, “don’t believe the hype”, just like my S95C turned out to be only slightly brighter than my S95B…
It's a funny marketing gimmick because a) the people who understand TVs knew the 2x claim was BS and b) the people who don't understand TVs don't care about peak brightness.
So I'm just wondering who they were trying to fool
@@RH-nk7eocause your commenting on it it worked.
I believe they said 2x the brightness of a baseline oled, which it pretty much is .
@@micker9830 That was on the updated press release they stated of “conventional” Oled, but the 2X I was referring to was the rumors people were spreading…
still the TV to buy between A95L and S95C. 499 $ is a laughable difference this year, so I gladly take better Image quality, even if its not brighter.
Anyways I'am waiting if the S95D will be a lot better before I pull the trigger, but likely the A95L will still look better than even 2024 Samsung and LG, because XR Cognitive is still unmatched after all those years, which just shows other companies are unable to compete with that Chip.
Highest brightness I was able to measure from my A95K in december 28 2022 was was 910, but now it peaks at 743 nits. Makes me wonder if 20% reduction will happen over time to A95L as well. I'd love to see more long term testing in your reviews, as I never saw such things mentioned before. The biggest thing I'm disappointed about with A95L is that Sony still lacks HGIG / accurate tonemapping off mode.
edit: 743 nit measurement was actually from, 3 months ago, re-tested now and it has declined down to 673 nits.
Lol really? Nearly 200 nit lost with those "superb" Sony Algos? 😂 I'm so proud that i didn't spend the extra bucks for Sony TVs 😂
pixels degradation of oleds over time are unavoidable, that's way i try to go back to mini leds.
@@ejdhdjejejebdnem Same story for Mini LED (20% in first year) but no way on OLED in first 12 month! It has to be a "software-feature" like on last years Samsung OLEDs😁
I doubt you lost that much brightness. I think you had a bad measurement or something else has changed. No tv loses that much in 9 months.
Don't update fools, who knows how they be nerfing with their updates!
Let’s hope the DV 120hz update doesn’t become another X900H VRR update scenario.
4K120hz with Dolby Vision will work as intended and be a blurry mess due to chipset limitations.
U mean this Sony chip set has limitations to produce 4k120hz? If so that’s a bummer cuz it’s a lauded chip set in it? What about the same scenarios in LG G3 Is the G3 chipset also limited in a similar way?
@@leperlord7078 No, it’s a joke about how Sony TV’s have handled gaming features in the past. The X900H was promised with VRR at launch, and didn’t get an update till two years after the fact. Sony even at one point tried to cancel it entirely and only feature it on their newest models, but caved due to backlash.
The other comment was again a joke about how Sony TV’s like the X900H had a bug (that was never fixed) that resulted in the 4K 120hz mode only rendering half the resolution and resulted in the 4K 120hz mode being a blurry mess.
I still don’t think these latest Sony TV’s support Freesync/Gsync either, so they are still far behind in terms of gaming features when compared to LG or Samsung.
Looks good. Can't wait for a comparison to the LG G3.
broh that is alot improvements hopefully 2024 entire lineup will using those mediatek pentonic with miniLED tech also
How is the BFI at 24p? From experience there is a huge difference between 24p and 50/60p BFI with these QD OLEDs. The flickering appears to be minimal at 24p with BFI, and the light loss isn't as bad either.
My go to channel before buying, thanks Vinnie 😊
We need a PhD to operate a camera, a car, a mob phone, a TV too now, marketing depts are totally out of control.
I'm not even going to buy this TV but I watched the video start to finish
fascinating stuff Vincent!
Your reviews are great -- technical, detailed, and factual. Wish you didn't have to resort to the clickbait thumbnails though.
As always great video. Just one question why Sony is launching 2023 OLED model so late? We are almost near holiday season.
For 24p, why can't they just hold the frame on the screen until the next frame is displayed? This is a huge problem with oled....their UN-cinematic dealing with 24 frame motion! I have an old Panasonic plasma that doubles 24p to 48Hz and the motion for film is fantastic...why can't they do something for this sticking issue? Use AI or something...we don't need interpolation...we need the frame to be held longer.
There has to be a technical reason for this. It seems like such an obvious solution.
what makes this issue confusion is people using the words "stutter" and "flicker" interchangeably. They are two very different things. "Flicker" would be, in the case of 24 FPS content on a 120Hz display, 1 frame of content followed by 4 black frames. Obviously they don't do this because the image would be so dim and flickery it would be unwatchable. People should say "stutter" instead of "flicker", because this is a sample and hold display (unless they enable BFI. I don't even know if you can enable BFI for 24 FPS content but if you did it would probably be terrible)
@@WilliamSmith-hf8um Even at 120Hz where they play the same frame 5 times, it doesn't matter...the last frame is displayed so quickly that stutter will happen in certain panning shots. My mother has a crappy and slow tcl, and yet it's butter smooth in 24fps content...the slow and crappy panel pays dividends there. With AI and all these other technologies , this better be the last generation of OLED with this egregious problem. I have held off from buying one for several years now and this issue is the sticking point for me. Either slow down the panel or find a way to continue displaying a frame on the screen...no interpolation or other such nonsense, just show me the 24fps as I would see in a theater.
@@lgmnowkondo938 According to RTINGS, OLEDs hold the frames longer on the screen because they are so fast in transitioning from one frame to another. The reason that slow TCL is apparently so good in 24 Hz motion is because it spends more time transitioning between frames due to its slow panel, so it spends less time holding the frame in a static state. Perhaps you need to enable some soap opera effect to mitigate the stutter on TVs with fast OLED panels whose speed exacerbates the stutter on low frame rate content to simulate the slower panel.
What device do you use for calibrating your TV?
I have seen the whole vid,, but what is the improvement of A95L to a95k? can someone explain? i dont understand
I would say: 1) much brighter 2nd gen QDOLED tech, and 2) better screen setting options because of the improved processor
Do NOT believe Sony's promises for upcoming features in firmware updates. I bought the x900h on the promise of 4k120 and VRR, only to be disappointed that they didn't even work right! The 4k120 has reduced resolution and the VRR disables local dimming, garbage!
The frustrating thing with these new OLED's is the stagnation regarding larger sizes. I've been waiting two years plus for a 95-100" next-gen OLED for my home theater room to replace my 83" A90J. 77" just isn't large enough.
LG G2 97" or LG M3 97"
@@rcclennii think he’s talking about QD OLEDS 🤣
@@justchilling4491 I agree we really need a 97" Panasonic QD OLED.
is the a90j 83” still a good buy? I don’t think I could afford the A95L on it’s full retail price on it’s debut..
@@jBstfu Yes, the 83" A90J is still a good buy.
Or Samsung S95C (only 77“)
LG G3 (available in 83“ but no MLA OLED)
I can’t wait for you to get your mits on one and totally dismantle it then put it back together better than it was !!! You R O C K ❤
To wind down at the end of the day I’ll take the gin ,you keep the tonic 🫷😬
Brilliant information, cleared tons of my doubts. Thank you!
I came here for the Taylor Swift diss track. Also nice video.
Hey Vincent, not sure if you were able to test it or not, but does the A95L suffer from the same ASBL that can’t be turned off as past Sony OLEDs? Appreciate your great work
Of course, it does. It's a Sony TV
I was wondering this too. Did the A95K?
@@Kung_Fu_Kenny the a95k had aggressive ASBL in SDR, especially in game mode. There was a little bit of ASBL in hdr gaming but was hardly noticeable
@@jackdubs25 yeah I knew sdr gaming was an issue, as it is for most OLEDs. I’m wondering about HDR/DV scenes like the notorious house of the dragon scene Vincent showed.
@@Kung_Fu_Kennyonly in hlg soccer games but just a bit but when thy make a close up of a player the slight dimming is gone
FFS Sony, you always leave something off. No mutual 120Hz and Dolby Vision means no buy until you update it. No way I'm risking buying then hoping for an update that potentially might not arrive.
Is eARC still on one HDMI 2.1 ports? They could at least move eARC to a standard HDMI port.
Needs the 2.1 bandwidth. They should be adding more hdmi 2.1 ports. Even the middle level samsung TVs have all had hdmi 2.1 for a few years now.
It will be a tough choice between A95L 77" and X95M 85" next year when the prices are pretty similar! Will keep the X95K 65" for a bright room TV in living room and set up one of those babies in the mancave.
Before the end of the year I will for sure be getting this tv
Great video and informative as usual, Vincent. The price here ln this country has gone up due to inflation and weak Swedish Krona.
I have been waiting so long for this L version and your test.
I think we are many that are very interested in how you do a complete calibration of a TV, meaning the different steps from the first step to the last one.
Surrounding lights, darkness etc.
Thank you for your work
All the best
Sweden should just switch to the Euro already
You are quite right !
Will you ever get a Z9K for review? Or the 85" X95l? Curious about that comparison
Not even 5 seconds and already throwing punches😂😂 "peace was never an option" 🤣🤣🤣
I’m about to buy a new tv, should I buy a LG C3 or a Samsung S95C or a Sony A80L. I’m probably going to just get a 55” because it’s for my bedroom. My bedroom is fairly dark, I watch a lot of movies and TV shows and I game fairly often but I usually game on a dedicated monitor. I would like the TV to play nicely with my Apple products. Given all of this information which of the 3 TV’s I named would you recommend for me? Also, do you have a recommendation outside of those 3 but around the same price point/feature set. Thank you!
LG G3 (not LG C3) or Samsung S95C
The Samsung does not play well with the Apple TV in sdr …. Lg has no issues … but if it’s c3 vs s95c and they are same price s95c better tech … maybe you meant g3
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ so s95c>c3? What about s95c vs g3? Idk why I thought the G3 was a considerably more expensive TV than the rest so I wasn’t including it. It appears the G3 is the same price as the S95C, and it’s the C3 that’s considerably cheaper than either. C3 is $1499, G3/S95C are both $2299. Just based off the price difference alone that may have just made my decision for me. $800 is a massive difference in price. I must have seen the price for S95B.
@@DETERMINEDMINDZ would you say at $800 dollars cheaper the LG C3 is a good choice for me even if the Samsung is a slightly better TV? Thanks so much for your response.
@@ChrisDavis333S95B is even cheaper, and I would definitely go for that way before the C3…
Hi Vincent! Does the new Motion Settings finally solve the 50Hz Frameskipping Issue (intermittent Stutter in mixed Edits)?
@hdtvtest why is the BFI frequence capped at 60hz?
T-Con limitation on the QD-OLED panel supplied by Samsung Display.
Hello. Always love your rundowns. I have the 2019 Panasonic 65GZ1500 from John Lewis and was thinking about getting a 77 or 83 OLED from Panasonic MZ2000 or the Sony in this review. Is the picture quality of these tv’s a big step up from my current tv or should I wait longer in your opinion until maybe next year or year after?
What are the recommended settings for HDR10? The presets are different from DV and there are no suggestions online.
Can you do a video or short about OLED screens in iPhones? Does the burn-in also occurs there? And if not, why not?
Cool glasses, Vincent!
6GB RAM?! Awesome!
is that much? I hoped more on 8GB. but im not sure how good it is
So proud that I get my LG G3 🙌
Mediatek needs to get on the ball with 4 full fat hdmi
Just by a cheap 2.1 switch on Amazon for 20buks, works perfekt on my A95K
MediaTek has complained that it cannot get 4 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports to fit in one chip and that having more than 2 full speed HDMI ports requires a second chip. I do not know if this is due to an engineering skill issue, avoidance of a patent that could allow all 4 HDMI ports to be full speed, not having a small enough chip fab process, or having chip room taken up by components required to make the chip compatible with Android. For example, current versions of Android can’t run without a full hardware 3D GPU that can run the OpenGL ES API that can do both 2D and 3D graphics since the code that allows the CPU to emulate OpenGL ES in case no such GPU was present was removed a long time ago after full hardware GPUs became popular in mobile phone SoCs. Therefore, MediaTek SoCs that run Android must implement a full 3D GPU. Other TV OSes could be designed to run with much simpler 2D only graphics hardware, possibly making more room available for implementing full speed HDMI 2.1 ports.
I think that if MediaTek requires second chips for more than 2 full speed HDMI 2.1 ports, it should be selling the required chips along with its SoCs to make this a reality.
@@jnvivianThey haven't complained they said Pentonic 2000 has 4 HDMI 2.1 ports and it will be in 2024 Bravia TVs.
@@RobertK1993MediaTek said the same thing about the Pentonic 1000 SoC, but previously lied by omission because while all 4 ports in the Pentonic 1000 are HDMI 2.1 compliant, only 2 of them are capable of full HDMI 2.1 speeds and the other 2 are limited to HDMI 2.0 speeds.
Nothing to do with the video but I would love to see some content talking about CRTs and it's pros and cons against LEDs and OLED from today :)
CRTs maxed out at a resolution of 2048x1536 because even the highest end GPUs’ analog VGA ports maxed out at this resolution, are capable of showing colors within the Rec. 709 and sRGB color spaces which are much smaller than the DCI-P3 color space that the best LCDs (including so-called “LEDs” which are LED-backlit LCD displays) and WOLEDs are able to match, burn in as they age, are much dimmer than today’s LCDs and OLEDs, are extremely power inefficient, flicker especially badly if driven at low frame rates like 50i causing massive eye strain at such frame rates, have low input lag, have good viewing angles like both IPS LCDs and QD-OLEDs, do not smear high motion content unlike some older VA LCDs, have good blacks, and poor contrast due to being dimmer than LCDs and OLEDs. Many colors that the best LCDs, WOLEDs, and QD-OLEDs can show are impossible on CRTs since CRT phosphors generate very impure primary colors.
When it comes to sustained brightness, how long is sustained? I.e, if you put a 10% white patch, how long will it keep 1300 nits? 10 sec? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?
Sounds like A95L will only be a minor upgrade over the A95K if I understand correctly. Which means the Samsung S95C will be a better deal. LG might look very good as well, but I cannot stand their OS or remote.
Go with LG MLA. Overall better choice. It's more polished and a more balanced experience. Better for gaming than Sony, better Dolby Vision implementation, better Sound Decoding, more and better HDMI 2.1 ports. Picture Quality on pair with Sony with irrelevant differences!
I recently saw the G3 at two Best Buy stores and while it provides a great picture, it did not provide that “WOW” factor compared to the Samsung S90C, S95C and the Sony A95K.
….and yes even if the A95L may be a bit underwhelming based on this video I’m pretty confident that it’s still going to have a better picture than the G3.
@@Datenschutz_DatenschutzHad the G3, great picture, but traded it in for the S95C, which is on another level…
@@mmadan-jr3uq Lol, I’ve also owned the A95K, and S95B since launch. Picked up both the S95C, and G3, calibrated both, and while the G3 has a great picture, it still fell short of all my QD-Oleds, even my S95B looked slightly better. I returned the G3 back to BB, now waiting for the A95L to compare. It’s all a matter of personal preference, but simply adding a micro lense over pixels to amplify an image to make it appear brighter, won’t cut it against QD-Oled which still has the wider color gamut, and superior uniformity…
@@mmadan-jr3uq I own a S95B (FW 1204) that in my humble opinion looks better than the G3. But “looking better” is so subjective from one person to the next.
One thing I notice is that when ever someone says that one of the QD-OLED panels just has that wow factor over the G3 all you hear is reliability and that 5 year warranty. That’s cute and all but I’m focusing on the beauty and pop of the picture of the panel.
I’ll take my chances without the 5-year warranty. I’ve had my S95B since May of last year so I’m coming up on 15 months and it looks every bit as stunning as the first day I bought it.
As I’ve said before… the G3 is a nice panel and no one would be upset if it landed in anyone’s lap. But if I’m being honest when you sit it side by side next to a QD-OLED panel it almost looks dare I say plain and boring.
Also I game a lot and there’s no way I would ever choose that panel over my S95B or S90C or S95C.
Also whether watching movies or playing games the uniformity advantage over w-OLED panels is the capper right there and the mic drop moment… everytime. There’s no beating that.
Mz2000 or A95L? Whitch chose?
Many thanks Vincent. I respect your ability, knowledge and professionalism. Unfortunately, I live in NYC and cannot take advantage of your/ Crampton and Moore's custom calibration service. Would you or Crampton and Moore recommend anyone in my area?
C’mon Vincent..🤨..only 12?🧐 I could’ve watched some 4 episode of my favorite show in the same amount of time AND fiddled with the settings while doing so. 😌 | Ok jokes aside I luv..🤔.your work m8!..yes that’s what I luv..the most.
Always a pleasure checking out if there’s any noteworthy developments between brands. Of course there almost never are..still interesting though. So thanks 🙏 for the content!
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One thing I think Vincent misses is that BFI could very well be a gamer-focused feature. The only problem is that most TV makers add lag with it.
But if there was a low-lag implementation of BFI, it would be my preferred way to play games. I know lots of people think VRR is the best, but console games should be a locked 60fps anyway (if designed properly) and I'm fine with tweaking my PC settings more aggressively to maintain a locked frame rate to keep a smooth vsync (which you need for BFI)
BFI is a mess for my eyes. It hurts and i could never turn in on for real.
BFI is only valid if you can keep 120hz and more in refresh rate. For TV content it would need to do interpolation by multiplying the image several time to reach high enough refresh rate to be tolerable. Somehow they usually miss this when they add BFI for TV broadcasts & content and they limit it to 60hz at best. (they never seemingly interpolate to 120+ hertz on many models)
Wile BFI for PC connection capable of doing 120hz input they somehow miss to do the implement right for some reason or disable the setting when you use the 120hz input with PC or Game Console.
Which is where you wanted it to actually be implemented.
@@nighthog7003 CRT TVs were all 60hz. And those are fantastic for games. Very smooth motion.
So both 60hz and 120hz support is necessary. And honestly, if you're using with PC, arbitrary refresh rates in between would be incredibly useful.
I still have a CRT PC monitor that I can use at 75hz, 80hz, 90hz, etc. Depending on the game I'm playing and the performance target my PC can handle
@@lulkLoganThat is wrong. In Europe and places that follow European standards, TVs run at 50 Hz, not 60 Hz. The eye strain resulting from CRT TVs in areas that ran on 60 Hz is tolerable, but eventually took their tolls on my eyes. The eye strain from CRT TVs in Europe and other places that ran on 50 Hz like when I previously temporarily moved to India for a job is painful to my eyes. I am an American, so I was used to 60 Hz CRT TVs at the time. Watching an LCD TV with 50 Hz video in one hotel was an eye strain-free treat, but moving to a hotel in a different city that had a CRT TV showed me that 50 Hz on a CRT TV is painful to watch.
Perhaps Vincent Teoh dislikes BFI because the inherent flicker hurts his eyes. The smoothness that BFI brings is more than offset by the eye strain and pain it brings to some peoples’ eyes.
I play games in 4k 120hz. Couldnt imagine playing games at 60hz anymore
I'd love to see a compare between the A95L and the A80L... Unfortunately Sony doesnt deem my region worthy of the A95L so I'd have to settle for the A80L. Wondering what's the difference.
Not much i bet
In my region too mate....last year no A95k only models available are the s95b and s95c with all lgs premium oleds. Sony really think they will hide behind that preserving creator's intent, processing and sony brand name to boost their sales. Not this time Sony.
Has the date for the HDTVTest 2023 TV Shootout been determined yet? Do we know what city it will be held in?
Pardon my ignorance. What are the last 6 "3D"options on the Overscan menu? Does the A95L support 3D movies?
No 3D is gone
I am also curious if that means it supports 3D I hope we get an answer
What is the peak HDR brightness in game mode on the A95L? I heard it's dimmer in game mode compared to the presets outside of game mode.
I honestly don't see the point of QD-OLED if they don't have polarizers so blacks look grey with any ambiental light. It is going back to CRT and plasma days where people were going on about deep blacks but in reality it was only true if you watched it in a cave. I remember buying a Panasonic plasma that got rave reviews for its contrast that couldn't be matched by any LCD and yet when I got it home blacks were way worse than any LCD I had and were only good in a completely dark room. With all the other downsides to OLED tech like burn in, an OLED TV that doesn't have deep perceived blacks in normal viewing conditions just doesn't seem great to me. I'd take a less bright WOLED at this point any day.
Do you have the TV to judge ???? If you have so bright room, you don't need oled! If you use an oled in bright room, then you have to cranck it up! By doing so you degrade the panel qucker and those tv's are expensive! Bright rom - go miniled, dark romm - go oled! So Were is the lifted blacks???? If you wonder... i Have LG C2 42" -Monitor, S95B 55"- Bedroom and S95c 77"_ Living room(on lease) The QD-OLEDs are BETTER! Why do you think SONY goes for QD-OLED? They make the best TVs! Gain some EXPRERIENCE before HATING something!
OLEDs in general are best suited for dark room viewing, that said I have my light on all the time and my S95B looks stellar, the grey is only visible when the TV is off or if you shine a flashlight directly on it, neither circumstances that would exist while actually watching content
@@boriskamenov1842 I'm not "hating" on anything and I don't belong to any "team" or whatever. It's obviously a downside of the tech, why are you trying to make it not so? I'm talking about a normally lit room, most living rooms are not without any light. It's not just either a cave or direct sunlight conditions. It is fair enough that you think QD OLED is better, what I'm saying is I don't find any of its pros anywhere close to worth sacrificing perceived black depth.
@@mythoti That's the thing though. In reality blacks look exactly like when TV is turned off. With content your eye tricks you into thinking it is black but next to an actual black it is obviously not so. Exact same story as it was with plasmas.
@@DM-rc4yu the TV's whole job is to trick your eyes into seeing something that's not really there 😅
Vincent, since you are the expert, have you done the research on new LG firmware update that supposedly fixes ABL aggressive behaviour? I have C2 and refused to update, i wonder if i should enable TPC and GSR back from service menu before updating the firmware?
0:25 in and we are shading TS. Nice.