Toyota 4Runner • RUST ISSUES • Every Owner’s Worst Fear
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2021
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My attempt at undercoating my truck after owning it for 4 years. Don’t be like me and get it done ASAP.
When you live in a state within the rust right, this is most likely happening to you. Beware!!
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I have a 2018 4runner, I live in NJ as well and know all to well what the winter chemicals do to vehicles, thanks for showing the process
You got it Sir, don’t let the video scare you, our vehicles are still solid machines. I’ll buy another 4Runner when The time comes. I appreciate you watching, stay tuned as I post almost weekly. Lots more 4Runner content coming (plenty of DIY ones too) .
Cheers!
Never use rubber undercoatings, they can increase rust and hide it. If not completely getting rid of the rust use a converter and paint over that, or instead of a converter/paint use fluid film or similar oil products.
Got it, thank you for the tip. Will do, this is way I love the internet. Always learning in here. I appreciate you watching.
@@VikingsGarage It's just from my experience. We're always learning, That's why I subscribed as well! Sköll
🙏🏻 thank you
@@thrRnz9496is using a converter on everything and then using fluid film over that a good idea? I don't mind the black look of the chasis and stuff.
@@2pacorwhat It can be done.. Just be careful rust converter may not stick to smooth paint, depending which you use it could flake off once dried. You may need to scuff painted surfaces for it to stick that are not completely rusted through on a frame... similar to painting over paint.
If it's rusty in places, you've 2 choices - sand-blast/grit blast the steel to bright, cut out properly (not just surface) rusted sections (weld in new steel) or just do a cosmetic number on it. Either or.
Needle scaling doesn't cut the mustard - nope - nor do rust converters - Nope - nor does underseal/lanolin/waxoyl - you name the muck, it's muck. You've to get to bright steel, epoxy prime that, overcoat it & then apply a sealer. Everything else is temporary at best/gonna make things worse. This I know as I work full time repairing rust. Don't do anything else. I mostly fix stuff someone else has already "fixed" in the past. You've 2 simple choices - back to bare bright or do a cosmetic job on it & live with it as long as you can. :-)
Thank you for the advice. I certainly don’t know much about treating rust.
I appreciate the insight.
Thanks for sending me the link and producing the video. As usual, great video and thanks for producing it….cheers
You got it!!
Thank you for your support!!
Thanks for the video,, I also have been procrastinating, I have a 2013 and coming up and yet another fall where I say I am going to address the rust issue. I unfortunately will be doing it from the ground, well on ramps at least. That tool made it look a lot easier than wire brush. New skid plates to install also.
That’s ok, what matters is that you get it done. Good luck 💪🏻
I have a 3rd gen, spray the frames and undercarriage since new with a lanolin product, it’s never had rust
did the same to my 2014 ,i also applied fluid film after the paint
Crazy how bad they get right. That’s awesome, I’m going to make sure to apply a layer on my next LOF . The gas tank cover has been replaced yesterday. Thank you for watching
My 4Runner is from 2011. I waited ten years to properly undercoat my 4Runner. It's all is good for now. I'll redo it every other year. 2023 will be my next time to undercoat it. I just happen to be lucky that it didn't get too rusty in those years.
I hear you, fingers crossed for our frames!
I appreciate you sharing and supporting the channel!!
Cheers 🍻
I drive a Land Cruiser 200 and touch up the frame, axle housing, and skid plates every year. Although I wash the frame and underneath every week during the winter, it takes a little work with the power washer, rust converter, and rattle can Rustoleum every spring. Even with all the salt, still nice after 7 winters of salt.
ThTs awesome, thank you for sharing your routine. I need to be more proficient like you with my undercarriage. I’m a little lazy I spouse. During the winter I do wash it once a week.
my dad used scalers as a navy diver, he said they were like baseball bat sized and rattled his brain underwater. IDK but I'd never question him
Lol, I can believe that. My arm was numb for the next few days. 🤷🏼♂️
Thank you for sharing your story.
I've found rustoleum heavy rust primer, pro rustoleum flat black and then finally duplicolor pro rubberized undercoating make for a good rust killing combo here in the salt belt.
Noted!! Thank you for sharing!!
It's because your wonderful governor sprays liquid calcium chloride on the roads during the winter! It eats everything!!!! I've built a bridge 2 years ago and already replaced expansion joints and pads on 4 of them!
I hear you, I think it should be illegal. 💯
If you really want the best protection sand down any rust spots, get some eastwood internal frame coating and get it inside the frame, then spray the frame with rustoleum, after that coat the frame with either fluid film, cosmoline, or any underbody coating and you'll be set for years. And just touch it up every summer.
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Rustoleum would be at way of FF or cosmoline doing its job. See "ten year of using cold galvanizing" nr 28.
Fluid film or woolwax. Had ti clean up my 05 4runners frame. It came down from upstate PA, crusty. Cleaned, heavy dose of Fluid film, and touch up every 6 months to year.
Thank you for sharing.
Waiting at all is the worst decision, the best thing that you could possibly do is drive your brand new 4Runner off the lot…and head directly to your initial undercoating procedure.
That’s exactly what I did with the second one. 😉
yes helpful i am doing it right away. thank you
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Coated my frame with fluid film and pretty much anything else metal 2 months ago, also if you kdss to take off the cover and clean in there, if you off road it’s gets real dirty... and extremely costly if that system fails. 👍
Right on! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you.. when i get mine i know now that i need to make keeping it rustoleum'ed under there an ongoing priority.. One afternoon each year before winter is the plan ! Maybe if I can get it maintained from day one I can just use black rustoleum paint. then a little fluid film a week later after it's dry sprayed into inside of the frame through the gaps. ?
That would work, make sure you doing when the weather is neither hot nor cold. The perfect time is late September early October. The stuff will stick faster and easier. Thank you for watching buddy
Thx for a great video Brother! Do you recommend doing this even if one gets a brand new 4runner? And how often should one do it? And are there any down sides?
I think you can only benefit from treating your frame.
Some people do this once a year, right before Winter comes.
Hard to believe that Toyota doesn't rust proof the bottom, considering the history and having to recall all those trucks and replace the frames due to rusting. All Toyota does is paint them black, that's it. Mastercoat is always sold out, so I'll do fluid film when I get my new 2024 from day one.
I’m there with you, clearly they don’t want it to last longer than your car payment 🤷🏼♂️
So glad I don't live in a area that salts the roads a lot
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I have a 2019 Jeep Wrangler 4 door with similar rust underneath, yes this keeps me up at night thinking about it! Just started the procedure of de-rusting, daunting task to say the least. Should be worth it 👌
Very smart. Good luck!!
Better sooner than later 💪🏻
Bought a 21 4runner TRD venture in Sept.
First thing I did was put it on the lift. Luckily, the frame looked almost new, almost no rust anywhere which was odd for a car from LI NY.
Within the first week of ownership I had it undercoated by a NHOU shop and will do so once a year.
I have wanted a 4runner for ever and am determined to have the frame and body last as long as the mechanicals.
@VikingsGarage, great vid as always.
🙏🏻 Thank you so much!!
You did the right thing, protect it and it will pay you back. They are awesome SUV’s. Thank you for your support!!
Nice work brother 👍🏻
Just buy some ear plugs when working with loud equipment and tools .
Obrigado, very true. I had the ear muffs but even that isn’t enough sometimes. Abraço
Damn. I waited a year but got it done with Wool Wax by a professional he used a compressed air paint gun not spray cans. He gave me a spray can for touch up as he said there can be areas that the Wool Wax will fade off as its water soluble .Its a 2019 4 Runner. Underside was very very clean thank God no needle gun required , he used some kind of high pressure air gun with like a duck bill that flapped .. I live on a beach block. just the salt in the air is hideous. Dont forget to hit the Spare Tire , Mine is actually on the same rim as the truck itself. aluminum...that was sprayed with clear Wool Wax as well as the painted spot welds along the frame.
My buddies 2010 Tundra dropped a gas tank on the highway, his frame was Swiss cheese. He had to pay out of pocket for a new frame $15,000
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I just bought my first 4runner. I absolutely love it, I live in Michigan ao I'm always worried about rust. I had a service guy at Toyota tell me the 5th gens have enough anti corrosion and rust built into the frame that undercoating would cause issues. However, when I bought it (a certified pre-owned) it had some of the brown spots on the frame, so not I'm worried.
He’s wrong, find a place that does undercoating. Best money you’ll spend in your investment. It’s a must!!
I wish i was rich when I bought my 2014. Coulda done the rust prevention early.
No need to be rich, it’s fairly inexpensive
I bought a 2020 4Runner and immediately had it sprayed with NHOU.
Very wise indeed, awesome, Thank you for sharing Sir
hi guys, I’m from Russia and our roads are actively sprinkled with chemicals, the best protection against corrosion is treatment in 2 stages, first apply a liquid anti-corrosion compound to all cavities (internal hard-to-reach, external), rust stop with cannon grease mixed 80 is ideal for this at 20 where 80 is rust stop and 20 cannon grease, after that you spray it everywhere you can on the bottom and other parts of the car, I applied it everywhere I could, even removing body parts from the car.
Attention, the composition must be heated to 100 degrees on an electric stove and applied while it is hot.
This should also be done in dry weather so as not to seal water under the oil and develop corrosion.
After that, we do the same thing, only now 50 percent Cannon grease and 50 rust stop. And you can no longer touch the hidden cavities.
Once a year I update the anti-corrosion protection only on the underside of my car.
I will pour the same thing into the thresholds of the car, but first I will seal them with car plastic, drive it for a couple of days in the heat and then salt this composition, after which the car will not rot at all.
My car is already 15 years old and the body is in very good condition, although in our region we have the harshest chemicals on the roads.
All other cars of my brand and the same years have long since rotted or are in a landfill because my car has bad metal and paint, but anti-corrosive helps, this is very important if you want to preserve your car.
I will pour the same thing into the thresholds of the car, but first I will seal them with car plastic, drive it for a couple of days in the heat and then salt this composition, after which the car will not rot at all.
My car is already 15 years old and the body is in very good condition, although in our region we have the harshest chemicals on the roads.
All other cars of my brand and the same years have long since rotted or are in a landfill because my car has bad metal and paint, but anti-corrosive helps, this is very important if you want to preserve your car.
I have a 16 4runner in same condition and live in ny. I just undercoat with fluid film under in and will do it yearly. So you think this will help it get to 300k or do you think it will rust out by then? How many 5th gens have you seen rust out in the frame?
Yeah NY gets the cars just as bad. I’ve never seen a 5th Gen rotted through, saw once a 4th Gen with 225k with structural damage. Taking care of it like we are , we should be able to get way over 300k no problem. Thank you for sharing.
I'm on the west coast and I still find it amazing that 4 years on the east coast could create such damage. And maybe this is dumb question but why don't car manufactures factor the rust issues in their manufacturing processes? Don't seem right.
I agree 💯
They do factor it in. Its an inevitable thing. They should go the extra step and undercoat the things with a protecting from the factory. If car companies did everything correct and top notch, the average vehicle would be the cost of a Rolls.
I use corrosion free which is great for anything rubber such as bushings and for electrical connections such as park neutral switch, starter. Its not flammable and you need to do the inside of the frames. Painting is a waste of time imo.
I live in south central Texas and mine(17) doesn't look close to this...
I certainly hope not it’s only 6 years old, my red 4runner is 8 years old + Rust belt Area 🤷🏼♂️
I just purchased a month ago 2023 Trd off-road premium I won’t be driving in the winter time I do have two Tacoma’s 97 with 103k and 2002 with 104k I live in Connecticut
Winters can be hard on them.
Going to look at a 2011 SR5 package 4x4 4Runner. It has 166k miles. Would you buy it use with that many miles? I’m going to look at the frame too. It’s been in WI it’s whole life so it will be interesting on the care. The car fax shows some decent information but didn’t see any rust work.
If the frame is good, you got nothing to worry about. 👍🏻
@@VikingsGarage Thank you Sir 👍Appreciate the response.
2:25 so sweet❤
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I have a 1995 4runner w/o undercoating. I’ve been looking at used 2005 - 2010s but the frames look a lot worse. Why?
Excellent question, I believe it’s the much lower quality Metal their using.
I’m actually finishing editing this week’s video, you might not want to miss it. Cover’s this exact issue. 👍🏻
when I purchased my 2022 Toyota 4runner TRD off-road , literally 9 days ago , I inquired about getting undercoating and the sales person said they don't recommended it because of the potential damage it could do to the wiring. Anybody have their opinion on this?
Not true, no such thing will occur. Sales personnel are completely mechanically impaired, I’m surprised some of them even know where the engine is located on the vehicle. 😉
@@VikingsGarage 😆, thanks!
If anything it'll prevent oxidation of any wire connections, don't listen to the sales person get it coated. I coated my 21 TRD Pro with cosmoline the the day I got it (last summer) and just had Fluid Film put on by a professional, I live in the northeast and so far no rust. Also ordered Eastwood internal frame spray which I'll be applying next summer on the inside of the frame and some more cosmoline on the outside, which will probably be overkill but will protect it very well.
Those are very good tips and so true. Taking notes here. Thank you for sharing with us!
They're full of shit.
what kind of shops could do this work? would the dealership?
Must dealerships by me do not perform this service. There are companies that specialize in it. I would Google it. 😉
Good job. They also rust mostly from inside out in the frame though. If you don't get it from new and treat the interior its mostly cosmetic unfortunately
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Will do , thank you for the tip.
How long did it last after painting it?
I did the undercoating 4 years later.
Wait you meant how long the undercoating lasted. Still good, done 5 months ago. 😀
What year is your 4Runner? Is this common on 4Runners today?
It’s a 2015, it’s normal for the rust belt area.
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Hello! Did you end up undercoating your new 4RUNNER TRD off road you picked up?
I’m actually not going to it myself. Searching for a company that specializes in it. I’ll let you guys know once I do get it done.
@@VikingsGarage great, thank you! The reason I am asking is that I am getting a new 4RUNNER the end of this month, and starting to do some research. I know you are pretty knowledgeable on the subject.
You’ve come to the right place!! I’ll keep you posted. Congratulations on the new ride!!
@@VikingsGarage thank you! It is still somewhere on a ship, lol. Left Japan on 3/11. I do like your channel and content 💪🏼
Thank you!! 👍🏻
Looks like Modern 4Runners share the same frame as the early 2000s 4runners.
They are very similar indeed.
Is this a dealership offered service?
Unfortunately not, otherwise I would have paid someone else to do it 🤣.
Honestly there are some companies out there that do undercoating.
If you did not get INSIDE the frame, you have not fixed anything.
I actually did, afterwards.
Rubberized undercoating? You just totaled your frame to the scrape heap.
I live in the saltiest place ever and with weekly washes I don't even have rust near this bad.... maybe your ride was not properly coated underneath?
Maybe, all I know is I’m going to do it from the beginning next time. Thank you for watching. Where do you live, out of curiosity?
Sounds like Hawaii or Guam. No vehicles last more than 10.years there. Because the salt is in the air.
That’s crazy right!
How many miles on it??
At the time of this film 150k miles
Hey Paul at Home Depot Blaster Surface Shield
Got it
I dont know shit about shit but if my frame and skid plates looked like that after 4 yrs of well maintained ownership Id be inclined to think Toyota is using shitty frames again.
It’s called the rust ring, the stuff they put on the roads during the winter is terrible for the vehicles undercarriage.
Not saying that Toyota is using the best of metals on these frames. 🤷🏼♂️
Dawg do u car wash during winter
Twice a week, which includes hosing the frame before hand each time. This is what happens in the rust belt. It’s awful
@@VikingsGarage heated garage activates salt and rust the frame
Very true.
i am in the process of purchasing a 2023 4runner limited. Never owned a toyota before and never purchased a vehicle brand new. all of my other vehicles i have babied until the doors have fallen off. just ask my mercury mariner that has 300k miles on it or my volvo xc90 that has 250k. I live in NE TN and I do ALOT of driving for my job to the tune of 50-75k miles a year. my travels often take me up to PA and all the way down to GA. Just to break the vehicle in my wife is planning on going Saskatchewan to visit her sister. the mere mention of snow and all the roads are instantly salted in my neck of the woods! naturally i want to do everything that i can to properly protect my investment. would the dealer be able to offer this service?
Thank you for sharing, those are some high rollers.
That’s not a service that we offer.It’s a recall performed on Tacoma’s mainly.
There’s quite a few companies out there that specialize in undercoating only. Look it up. Worth every penny!!
@@VikingsGarage My wife and I are a little divided. She is the one that wants the Limited whereas I prefer the 40th Se. I view the ireas driving system that the limited has as a potential liab
ility down the road and I love the retro look. In terms of maintenance and durability do you think that they are about the same? Also what are your thoughts about the paint protection offered at the dealership. One dealership said they could apply a custom coat for around 3k.
Paint protection is always smart to apply.
I personally wouldn’t buy a Limited, that suspension is pure garbage and very expensive to replace.
@@VikingsGarage Hey thanks for your advise. I found a nice 40th se but it comes with a TRD performance exhaust. Other than it being “louder” are there any advantages/disadvantages to having such an exhaust? I wonder how loud it will be in the vehicle while driving.
You got to try it, to see if you like it.
I don’t find it to be loud, but it is drony on the highway
Sorry Toyota! My '05 Accord here in the Rust Belt with salt every time a drop os snow hits the ground is still Peeerrffeeeccttt!!!! About 99% of people will do what u just did!! Not feasible for the avg. person.
Honda’s are solid cars. I do agree, honestly I don’t really want to do that again, a lot of work.
I honestly would've preferred hearing the sound of the air tools instead of the music. 🤷🏾🤣
🤷🏼♂️ if only I could please everyone.
@@VikingsGarage 🤣 Such is life. 👍🏾
The thumbnail was not click bait but an actual photo…
Yes indeed, the actual pile of rust removed from the frame of my 4runner . 😎
Actually your frame didn't look too bad.
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Olá Paulo Nice Job I Love Beijinhos de Mom
obrigado!
Those products are crap!!! Did you do any research?
Pretty bold statement! I did a little research. Not a professional of this area by no means. Bug always open to suggestions
@@VikingsGarage fluid film twice a year then you're good.
Thank you Rooster, I’m on it. Need at least 5 more years out of her.
@@Rooster_king CRC also seems to be good. Along with good old cosmoline.
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