I installed air bags on my 2017 F250. Two words...Game changer!! I imagine it will be for your F450 as well. I also learned from this upgrade that I'll never own another truck (even if 1/2 ton) without air ride again. Just my 2 cents. Great video!!
Kelvin, thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I had airbags installed on an F350 I used to own. The definitely make a difference. I might be doing it again. Thanks again!
Great looking truck! If you go to your local truck stop if they have a mechanic shop or just a local diesel mechanic that works on 18 wheelers you can get extended valve stems installed on your inside rear wheels and it will make a big difference.
Nice HONEST video. I just got a f550 dually chassis with CM haul/tow bed. Absolutely luv it!!! I currently have an f350 xlt LWB and prior had a 2021 f150 limited... Just get an f450 and be done with it. You feel safe and co fident to do what ever you have to do. Protect your interest and family with the appropriate rig. Great resale value and like he said that turning radius is a deal.closer on its.own. Just completed a 600 mile trip towing a 30 ft trailer... Semi trucks and other obstacles were never an issue. Didn't even feel it. Anyhoo my 2 cents. Cheers from ATL. Scott
I transport rv's for a living. the long bed single rear wheel f350 is adequate to pull any fifth wheel, or bumper pull rv. However in my opinion the dullys are far superior to a single rear wheel truck, in example if you have a rear tire blowout the other tire will carry you to a safe haven where with a single rear wheel truck you'll be stuck on the side of the road.
It might be adequate to pull, but legally, it's not adequate. Based on the gvrw rating of a single axle, one-ton truck. A lot of the fish wheels. Especially toy haulers, we'll be overweight with that type of spec.You need a dually to the point of even an 4500 or 5500 spec unit...
If your RV has 3-axles, you definitely need a dually. Better to have too much truck than too much trailer. I have a '19 F-450 Platinum to pull my Jayco Seismic 4113, 20,000#, 45'10"L x 13'4"H. Made a huge difference towing my old trailer which was only 12,000# and 32'L. I went with the F-450 over the F-350 only because of the wide-track. The only thing I wish for the F-450 was that it had a 4.10 gear option. I'll never tow to the max capacity of the truck, so a little better highway mileage over the 4.30 gear would have been nice. Air bags make a huge difference. I put the AirLift system with EasyAir compressor on mine day one. The remote control for the compressor is nice and lets me adjust pressure on the fly to give me the smoothest ride. Best mileage I ever got running empty was 17.8 after putting a Banks Power Ram-Air intake on it. Pulling the toy hauler, I'm averaging 8.0, usually running 70-75mph. I'd probably be getting better running 65-70, but I don't like getting passed by semi's constantly... I've got 43,000 problem free miles on it now, and absolutely love it! Still on the original Continental tires, and looks like I still have 50%+ tread life on them. I'm exploring tire options for when it's time for new ones. Your setup looks great!
Thank you! You have a great rig setup too! I hear ya on the 4.10, it would help with better mileage. Glad to hear you like the airbags. I might do that. I’ve been impressed with how it rides on the Nitto tires, it’s a little smoother. Btw… I love the wide track axle! Thanks for telling me about your rig setup. 👍🏻
Note, Fuel is not taken away from payload. The payload is figured WITH a full fuel tank. If you scale with an empty tank and nothing in the truck you will find it weighs slightly less then GVWR minus payload, and when you break the divide the difference by number of gallons you will find it pretty close to what a gallon of fuel weighs. You also lose payload on the F450 due to the upgraded suspension, front axle and heavier brakes. You get a BEAST of a truck in exchange, so if there is enough payload, should be, then the F450 is a better overall towing rig hands down.
something to consider. a large fifth wheel or toy hauler plus the truck in most states are over a regular license weight. you will need a cdl. a non commercial cdl. why not get a used class 8 truck. you can get a good used class 8 semi for the same as a brand new 1 ton. also you won't go thru tires, oil, and maintenance as much. that semi will have zero problems towing or stopping a large fifth wheel.
Nice 450. I’ve owned lots of 450s but got to the point on trim levels where for the money, interior colors, and options I wanted, it was best to go to the Limited.
I had to get mine in a hurry before a 5,000 mile trip across the country. I was looking for a Lariat or King Ranch, but all they had left were Platinums. Great timing though. It was the last 2019 they had, and they were just unloading the first 2020's when I was at the dealer. Earlier in the year, they weren't budging off of MSRP on pricing. That day, they offered me $25,000 off! Got the Platinum for what a fully loaded Lariat would have cost!!!
@@wj2791 I have a 2019 F-450. I got the 2019 because I didn't want to get the first model year production of the 10-speed transmission, and the final drive ratio is pretty much the same. I put in an AirLift air bag system, with EasyAir remote controlled compressor, and the Centric balancers on the front. I also put in the Banks RamAir, Derringer, and Peal monster systems, which are giving me an extra 10-15% improvement in fuel economy (18mpg running empty on the highway vs. 15-16 before). As expected, it rides like a truck... not terrible, but not as smooth as the F-350. Tows my 46'/21,000# toy hauler without flinching, and maneuverability is awesome.. That makes towing A LOT less stressful, and worth any ride quality you give up. From what Kevin says, my mileage while towing isn't much different than his.
Finally got the formal order put in through dealer on Ford Order online. Priority 19. Limited just looks so cool. How often do you check your tire pressures? Did you have to add Centramatic balancer? I know many are talking about Centramatic balancer, but it will make air up on rear inside tire that much harder.
That’s the dream I’m about to graduate high school and run a small business just bought myself a 7x18 trailer next will be a 350 but obviously no where near this spec more like an xl or xlt
Ya there's no way an SRW 1-ton can handle pretty much any 5th wheel like a Riverstone, Redwood, or DRV. Any trailer with a pin weight over 3500 lbs is going to need a dually because the truck just won't have enough payload room after people and stuff, and anything with that kind of pin weight is probably at or over the max tow weight anyway. But...that doesn't stop some people from trying. I've seen (fully optioned) SRW 1-tons pulling way beyond their weight with headlights at the sky because the owner is [insert judgemental word].
@@mkexp. They ride pretty smooth and are not very loud. However, I feel like because they are softer, they dont feel quite as stable when pulling heavy loads as my Toyo AT's did. The Toyo's just seamed a little more planted I guess you would say, at least in my opinion. However, not a big deal really. They are supposed to last a little longer than many other brands. I think you will like them.
MK,exp, hi please get a good set of TPR valves for EACH TIRE, ON YOUR TRUCH &TRAILER, you will be glad you did , before you BLOW a tire, even AMAZON SELLS THEM,,,BYW, are your trailer DISK BRAKES ? Stay well and safe. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
ok I'm watching this and looking at the truck and that camper. For the money I think you could have bought a new decked out busy that has an even better diesel engine and even better breaks and probably rides much better all in one unit and trailed a boat.
Beautiful truck (and trailer). Looks like you gave up the commercial tires. Normally I would not encourage that, but wow, I love the look your truck has now. Also, if those tires are not directional, you can rotate them left to right. In fact, since the stock rims are only chromed on one side, that's the only option you have with the stock wheels too. The fronts can't go to the back and vice versa… well, unless you want the ugly side of the rims facing out
Hey James, thanks for watching. Maybe Bill will let me borrow his helicopter. Lol I definitely like air bags. Thanks again watching and leaving comment.
Tim, thank you! I appreciate you watch and leaving a comment. We have the FF39D. We had them installed at a local garage called Outlaw Off-road. Thanks again!
I can’t think of a single reason to own anything but a F4 50 when pulling the big RVs for personal use, in comparing to these 1 ton From ram or GMC there is simply no comparison when you look at the axles brakes tie rods everything the brakes it is a totally different vehicle class on the F4 50 but you’re getting all the benefits of a truck versus cab and chassis
@@B-rad303 That would be a fantastic plan good luck with that I know that when I talk to hotshot guys a lot of them seem to plan on trading in their trucks at 300,000 because they can still get a decent trade in value at that point but they want to unload the vehicle before that major set of maintenance repairs comes into play
Aren't the new 35" Nitto tires you added regular light-duty tires (like that come on a F-350) versus medium-duty tires that come on the 19.5 wheels from the factory on a F-450?
One thing I came across recently is that apparently Ford's payload and tow ratings assume the truck is moving on level ground at sea level. Further, their recommendation is for owners to reduce the payload/tow rating of their specific truck by 2% for every 1000ft of elevation. Apparently Ram and GM do not say to do the same with their trucks, but I have found Ford dealer websites that mention this. What this would basically mean is that the top-towing F-450 with the 37,000lbs rating at sea level would have to drop down to a bit over 28,000lbs if it were towing the same load at the Eisenhower Tunnel in CO. My own F-350 SRW would lose ~2 tons of tow rating if this is actually recommended practice. And do any state laws take this into account?
That’s interesting… I’ve not heard that before. That would definitely change the numbers for sure. Makes you wonder if any states would change their laws. Interesting points to ponder. Thanks again!
Anthony, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. We’ve had a few issues… One was a slide out issue, the motor burned out. The other issue was our bed, it’s on a schwintek system too, due to having a “toy box” in the back. The track was crooked and made the headboard happy hit our overhead cabinets and chipped it. Riverstone replaced it and it’s been good. Really, that’s it. We’ve been happy with it. Thanks again!
@@mkexp. really glad you’re happy with it. Things happen, that’s for sure. My idea for the front kitchen toy hauler was to raise the bed about 12 to 14 inches and have a cabinet maker built some sort of a custom step that wrapped around the bed, for the very reason you mentioned in the bed slide. Maybe remove the switch and cap the wires. I wouldn’t be using it for a garage, more of a shed. If I got one anyway. Love the truck too by the way. I’ve heard nothing but good with kelderman, if you’re still looking for an air ride system on either rig. God bless
@@anthonyshriner4362 Thank you! Sounds like a great plan! It would make for a great “shed” too. Thanks for the airbag tip… You’ll have to let me know if you purchase a Riverstone. God bless and thanks again!
Chris, thank you! She doesn’t squat anymore than it did with the factory tires and wheels. It rides smoother on the Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
@@mkexp. thanks for reply bud..I guess I asked the question wrong..I meant to ask if truck still sits level when your towing the 5th wheel..I'm concerned doing 2" level in front would make truck look like it's sagging in rear with 5thwheel connected..I have 2022 ram 3500 dually and has the front rake but when I'm connected to my 5th wheel it goes level..with 2" more up front I'm concerned I'll sag a bit in rear
They want us driving a battery powered preus so the can shut the power down and eventually control our movement! But real American men and truck owners need to let the fabric of our past and future shine! Stay strong,informed and 1 step ahead truck owners!!!!
Thank you! Great question, the tires and wheels numbers are slightly different than stock commercial ones. We only gave up a couple hundred pounds going to the Nitto tires and Fuel wheels, but it still more than covers what we need. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Paint the mirror caps gloss black, only leave the lights the way they are. Factory look doesn't fit the loot at all. Look like goofy ears sticking out.
The classy chassis is for the F550 with a gooseneck is the way togo... Ford would need to do a Limited and or Platinum to make since in the new RV world 🌎 of luxury
Check out Elevation Off Grid. They make a F550 conversion but it is fucking PRICEY (like $175k pricey!)! It’s really cool and comes with Liquid Springs upgrade. You can get it in two versions but holy hell thats a lot of money!
Absolutely LOVE that truck! I miss my 350 dually that I had setup like that…….looking for another one realizing that the dream car I got in place of it just isn’t practical for my lifestyle right now. You live and learn!! Appreciate your input.
Kraig, thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I appreciate the kind words… Once you own a truck it’s hard to go back to a car. Even with higher gas prices. Lol Thanks again!
Is it a gas or diesel? You have gas in the title and keep mentioning gas but you're standing in front of a power stroke. Words have means you seem to ignore this
Thank you! Nice! Congrats on the new purchase! You’re going to love it! Let me know when you pick it up and your thoughts on it. Thanks again for watching and leaving a comment.
Seen a f450 parked in my local supermarket recently.Been driving for 40 years and that is the 1st time I have seen one.Took up 2 parking spaces ! Huge truck
Wider track makes it easier to park. Yes it does still fit in between the lines. People are just too lazy or too much of an ego to park right. I've got a fleet of trucks and semis I'll fit them anywhere
Anyone that spends that kind of money on the truck they get what they deserve. Those trucks are about only half the price they're asking at most. As soon as you drive them off the lot they drop about $20,000 dollars right off the bat.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have a F350 Dually and also upgraded to 20" wheels and 37" tires. I am running Ridge grapplers but when not hauling anything i run the tires at 35lbs rear and 40 lbs in the front. Vehicle drives and rides so much better. no need to put maximum pressure in the tires unless you are under max load.
You should have clarified in your video that while legally the F3 50 has more payload mechanically the F4 50 has much more payload because of all the commercial grade springs axle breaks everything that goes into that they dropped the payload on the 450 to simply keep that vehicle in the same class as the F3 50 that is why you won’t see F4 50‘s being run by commercial hotshot drivers
FYI… my 2019 F350 DRW was a GVWR 14000 lbs truck and my 2022 F450 DRW is also 14000 GVWR. No extra payload. None. Zero. Nada. The F350 was a STX trim, 5575 lbs payload. The F450 is a platinum trim truck, 4373lbs payload. However there ARE bigger brakes.
Thanks for the great video! We have the 2019 SRW F-350 and have been searching for our signature red and can’t find one in the dually. We are also part timers and the truck is Bryan’s daily driver, so that’s why we went with the SRW. We are pushing the payload now that we installed solar, so we are on the hunt! Great info on the wheel upgrade. We did that for his truck last fall and love the fancy wheels and tires.
Hey guys! Thank you for watching! Since we’ve had the dually, with some exceptions, it hasn’t bothered us like we thought it may have. We always park far away from other vehicles, as to avoid door dings. Lol We are happy with our new wheels and tires. Michael is looking forward to pulling the fifth wheel and we both can’t wait to see how it rides. We hope you all find a signature red truck! Thanks again!
BROTHER IM TRUCK DRIVER AND I OWN THE SEMI AND TTAILER YOU CAN SEE ON MY UA-cam CHANNEL.... DOR ME IM THINKING TO BUILD OR BUY THE MINIMUM 40 FOOT RV OR BUILT ONE BUT I WILL USE MY STEPDECK AND IS 53FT . BUT EVEN IF I HAVE YOUR RV ON MY SEMI I DO EASY 14 MPG . I DONT THINK WORTH FOR ME getting the pickup truck and if you have the cdl think about .. kw t680 .. yes is more expensive but is another world truck vs the 450 belive me
I have a 2021 F450 Platinum. It is AntiMater blue.. amazing truck. We have swapped out the 48 gal tank for a 68 gal, added air bags, onboard air/air tank, and of course a train horn. (A must have for smiles). We have a 44ft toy hauler we pull behind. I took my truck to a big rig tire company that services buses and trucks and had them put valve extensions on the back four. They are a must have. Easy to fill my tires now.
Sounds like you have a great setup! I really need to get a train horn. 🙌🏻 Have you liked having the 68 gal tank? I need to get the valve extensions too. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
@@mkexp. the 68 gal fuel take is a game changer when pulling the rig. Really allows you some freedom in planning those fuel stops. I also have the TSD card so i get a discount on fuel and fill up in the trucker lanes at the truck stops. Like you said, gas prices are just what they are and we just deal with them. With the bigger tank i have the ability to pinch some pennies here and their. The train horn is such a must. And the onboard air helps me maintain air pressure in my rig and truck tires.
The ride is about the same as the 350, but the game changer is wide track front axle. The turning radius is great. The overall ride is nice. It even got better when I switched out the tires to the Nitto Ridge Grappler’s.
Thanks Mike! Keep these videos coming. We tow a 42’ Grand Design Solitude. It’s interesting to see how many people think four wheels is just as good as six for big RVs. No concept that each wheel can handle so much weight. Also not understanding the difference in stability bc of the wider footprint. We also went with a black 2022 Platinum. My wife did not care for the Admiral Blue interior. She wants to work for Ford on picking color palettes. LOL 😂
You’re welcome! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. Good points you bring up… understanding how much weight each axle can carry is super important. Also, having a wider footprint with a dually adds better stability. I’m glad you have a black platinum too! Maybe your wife should apply for a interior design job with Ford. 😂 Thanks again, Michael
Old guy here. Owned over a dozen diesel pickups. Rule 1) Alway, ALWAYS, buy the biggest truck you can afford. Mileage is the same from a Toyota Tacoma to an F450. Rule 2) There's no such thing as too much truck. See rule #1? I have also made the mistake of going SRW for ease of commute - despite knowing better (sigh). Ended up back in a DRW. Used to be Cummins equipped trucks but switched to F450 and glad I did (Cummins is great, Powerstroke has caught up imo, but Fiat/Peugeot trucks are horrible).
For hauling a flatbed trailer, I’d say the gooseneck is a great option. The brand Reese also makes a gooseneck hitch for fifth wheels as well. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I’m still happy with the results. Lifting the front end 2” changed the mpg a little. But the ride is smoother with the Nitto Ridge Grappler tires(35’s). The load range didn’t change much going from the aluminum rims to the steel 20’s. Thanks again, Michael
@@mkexp. Thanks Michael, that is really helpful. We love our F450, but even with all of the suspension upgrades we did, is still rides rougher than we would like. A different tire/wheel setup is what I am currently investigating. I assume you have had no issues towing your fifth wheel with these new tires, right?
Good video 👍🏻. I was in the same position as you were. I have 43’ Raptor toy hauler and started with a F-350 short wheel base truck. Like you stated it pulled it fine but just a little too light. Anyway I upgraded to a 2022 F-450 and WOW what a difference!! My question is I really like your tire and wheel set up. Can you send me a link for that exact set up? Once again great video and thanks!!
Jacky, thanks for watching! So glad you're loving your F-450... We love ours. Here's a list of our wheels and tires. We went with 20" wheels. Tires 35's Fuel Forged FF39D Front: www.fueloffroad.com/wheel/12170/fuel-dually-wheels-ff39d-10-lug-front/?finishID=4748&lugs=10 FF39D Rear: www.fueloffroad.com/wheel/10868/fuel-dually-wheels-ff39d-10-lug-rear/?finishID=4748&lugs=10 Tires: www.amazon.com/dp/B01MAXN5R6?tag=onamzmichandk-20&linkCode=ssc&creativeASIN=B01MAXN5R6&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.1OTTBTNUHQJ9G Thanks again for watching and leaving a comment! - Michael
@@mkexp. Can I do the 20" Fuel Forged Wheels + Nitto Ridge Grappler 35" without lifting the front by 2"? What was the main reason for lifting? How much did it cost to do all? Where is the shop?
@@wj2791 Thank you! I wanted to lift the front 2 inches just in general. I’d done that to a different truck I owned… But with the 35’s I believe I had to lift it, because they would’ve rubbed on sharp turns. Total cost was in the $10,000 range. We had the work done at Outlaw Off-road in Greensboro, NC.
@@mkexp. thank you for many great info. I am now waiting for the order book to come open so that I can order 2023 F450 Limited. Once I get it, I will study and learn from your experiences.
Beautiful truck.!! I have an F150 that i bought new in 2005 Lariat edition with 5.4l. I was getting average 11.5mpg mostly city driving. Frame rotted out and im in the process of trying to patch up the frame. My daily drive is an 09 corolla xrs. Costs me about 30 dollars every 2 weeks to fill ot up .lol.
Great content folks! Your video is one of the reason the wife and i are upgrading our f350 diesel. Our goal is that in the next couple of months, we can snag a new (or slightly used) 2023 ford f450 limited high output diesel to pull our 43 feet momentum toy hauler and to keep going with the fulltime rv living. Stay safe and happy trails. Howdy from the Nevada desert!
Thank you! Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. Happy to hear our video helped. We love our F-450! You’ll have to let us know when you pick one up. Good luck with your search. Safe travels! - Michael
You didn’t mention how all the manufacturers tank the gvwr due to regulations of the 14k max payload. Realistically payload is 1-2 thousand pounds more than the f350.
I see no reason they could take the extra thousand pound payload loss between and f350 and f450 and made the f450 gvwr 15k. 15k is the maximum gvwr you can have in 99% of the 50 states to be insured on a personal policy. After 15k, needs to be a commercial policy.
I do railroad work...This my experience from working everyday with a f450 xlt with flatbed, large generator in back, 3 large toolboxes, tons of tools, etc.. pulling a 30 ft bumper pull trailer hauling a 580N 4wd backhoe and full gas tank and 4 passengers. So that's say 25k pounds trailer and backhoe not counting truck payload. The truck pulled it like it wasn't shit. Now stopping was definitely harder. I had to be careful giving myself enough space in the big city traffic. Pulling the bigger gooseneck loaded heavier than that was a breeze too. You can tell a big difference pulling it with the ram 3500 dually vs the f450. The Ford wins hands down.
I installed air bags on my 2017 F250. Two words...Game changer!! I imagine it will be for your F450 as well. I also learned from this upgrade that I'll never own another truck (even if 1/2 ton) without air ride again. Just my 2 cents. Great video!!
Kelvin, thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I had airbags installed on an F350 I used to own. The definitely make a difference. I might be doing it again. Thanks again!
Wym airbags like for safety or?
@@dr.blast__2713 suspension
Great looking truck! If you go to your local truck stop if they have a mechanic shop or just a local diesel mechanic that works on 18 wheelers you can get extended valve stems installed on your inside rear wheels and it will make a big difference.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. I’ll look into that idea.
Nice HONEST video. I just got a f550 dually chassis with CM haul/tow bed. Absolutely luv it!!!
I currently have an f350 xlt LWB and prior had a 2021 f150 limited...
Just get an f450 and be done with it. You feel safe and co fident to do what ever you have to do. Protect your interest and family with the appropriate rig. Great resale value and like he said that turning radius is a deal.closer on its.own.
Just completed a 600 mile trip towing a 30 ft trailer... Semi trucks and other obstacles were never an issue. Didn't even feel it.
Anyhoo my 2 cents. Cheers from ATL.
Scott
I own that midnight f250 lariat and not a fan of chrome, but this beast of yours is an absolute masterpiece.
Thank you so much!
I transport rv's for a living. the long bed single rear wheel f350 is adequate to pull any fifth wheel, or bumper pull rv. However in my opinion the dullys are far superior to a single rear wheel truck, in example if you have a rear tire blowout the other tire will carry you to a safe haven where with a single rear wheel truck you'll be stuck on the side of the road.
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Good points! Safe travels!
It might be adequate to pull, but legally, it's not adequate. Based on the gvrw rating of a single axle, one-ton truck. A lot of the fish wheels. Especially toy haulers, we'll be overweight with that type of spec.You need a dually to the point of even an 4500 or 5500 spec unit...
If your RV has 3-axles, you definitely need a dually. Better to have too much truck than too much trailer. I have a '19 F-450 Platinum to pull my Jayco Seismic 4113, 20,000#, 45'10"L x 13'4"H. Made a huge difference towing my old trailer which was only 12,000# and 32'L. I went with the F-450 over the F-350 only because of the wide-track. The only thing I wish for the F-450 was that it had a 4.10 gear option. I'll never tow to the max capacity of the truck, so a little better highway mileage over the 4.30 gear would have been nice. Air bags make a huge difference. I put the AirLift system with EasyAir compressor on mine day one. The remote control for the compressor is nice and lets me adjust pressure on the fly to give me the smoothest ride. Best mileage I ever got running empty was 17.8 after putting a Banks Power Ram-Air intake on it. Pulling the toy hauler, I'm averaging 8.0, usually running 70-75mph. I'd probably be getting better running 65-70, but I don't like getting passed by semi's constantly... I've got 43,000 problem free miles on it now, and absolutely love it! Still on the original Continental tires, and looks like I still have 50%+ tread life on them. I'm exploring tire options for when it's time for new ones. Your setup looks great!
Thank you! You have a great rig setup too! I hear ya on the 4.10, it would help with better mileage. Glad to hear you like the airbags. I might do that. I’ve been impressed with how it rides on the Nitto tires, it’s a little smoother. Btw… I love the wide track axle! Thanks for telling me about your rig setup. 👍🏻
Note, Fuel is not taken away from payload. The payload is figured WITH a full fuel tank. If you scale with an empty tank and nothing in the truck you will find it weighs slightly less then GVWR minus payload, and when you break the divide the difference by number of gallons you will find it pretty close to what a gallon of fuel weighs. You also lose payload on the F450 due to the upgraded suspension, front axle and heavier brakes. You get a BEAST of a truck in exchange, so if there is enough payload, should be, then the F450 is a better overall towing rig hands down.
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. 👍🏻
something to consider. a large fifth wheel or toy hauler plus the truck in most states are over a regular license weight. you will need a cdl. a non commercial cdl.
why not get a used class 8 truck. you can get a good used class 8 semi for the same as a brand new 1 ton.
also you won't go thru tires, oil, and maintenance as much. that semi will have zero problems towing or stopping a large fifth wheel.
Matt, valid point there. I know some people who do pull fifth wheels with class 8 semi’s. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment
But who wants to drive a semi around town when unhooked at a park for an errand or such
Nice 450. I’ve owned lots of 450s but got to the point on trim levels where for the money, interior colors, and options I wanted, it was best to go to the Limited.
Thanks for watching! The Limited is a great trim package. 👍🏻
Limited is the ultimate trim
I had to get mine in a hurry before a 5,000 mile trip across the country. I was looking for a Lariat or King Ranch, but all they had left were Platinums. Great timing though. It was the last 2019 they had, and they were just unloading the first 2020's when I was at the dealer. Earlier in the year, they weren't budging off of MSRP on pricing. That day, they offered me $25,000 off! Got the Platinum for what a fully loaded Lariat would have cost!!!
@@wj2791 I have a 2019 F-450. I got the 2019 because I didn't want to get the first model year production of the 10-speed transmission, and the final drive ratio is pretty much the same. I put in an AirLift air bag system, with EasyAir remote controlled compressor, and the Centric balancers on the front. I also put in the Banks RamAir, Derringer, and Peal monster systems, which are giving me an extra 10-15% improvement in fuel economy (18mpg running empty on the highway vs. 15-16 before). As expected, it rides like a truck... not terrible, but not as smooth as the F-350. Tows my 46'/21,000# toy hauler without flinching, and maneuverability is awesome.. That makes towing A LOT less stressful, and worth any ride quality you give up. From what Kevin says, my mileage while towing isn't much different than his.
Finally got the formal order put in through dealer on Ford Order online. Priority 19. Limited just looks so cool. How often do you check your tire pressures? Did you have to add Centramatic balancer? I know many are talking about Centramatic balancer, but it will make air up on rear inside tire that much harder.
Was really hoping to see the interior. The front end on this particular generation of ford heavy duties is the coolest front end for HD trucks ever.
2011 F250 260,000 hauling a 2015 FR XLR 29 toyhauler , bucket list is the F450 DRW and 5th wheel trailer .Nice Truck ! Safe Travels
Terry, thank you! Safe travels back at you! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Love this.
It's flexing while
it's sitting there.
Thank you! Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment.
That’s the dream I’m about to graduate high school and run a small business just bought myself a 7x18 trailer next will be a 350 but obviously no where near this spec more like an xl or xlt
Wise choice, I think many RV owners do not have a truck with enough capability
notice how he said Toyota person and not Toyota guy like the rest 😂 love it great vid
More truck, more capability......its as simple as that
Better to have more truck than you need than barely enough
Makes total sense to me
Kirk, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Definitely better and safer going with more of a truck.
May I recommend applying a quality ceramic coat? Protects your paint and is far superior to wax
Ya there's no way an SRW 1-ton can handle pretty much any 5th wheel like a Riverstone, Redwood, or DRV. Any trailer with a pin weight over 3500 lbs is going to need a dually because the truck just won't have enough payload room after people and stuff, and anything with that kind of pin weight is probably at or over the max tow weight anyway.
But...that doesn't stop some people from trying. I've seen (fully optioned) SRW 1-tons pulling way beyond their weight with headlights at the sky because the owner is [insert judgemental word].
I hear ya… I’ve seen the same thing. It happens quite often. Hope there’s no accidents. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Awesome ride. Some of your choices are not to my taste, but different strokes for different folks. Really enjoyed the video.
Roy, thank you! Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment.
Beautiful truck, love the new wheels and tires. We also have the same Nittos as well. Enjoyed the video!
Thanks guys! Have you all liked the way the Nitto tires handle on the road? Thanks again for watching. - Michael
@@mkexp. They ride pretty smooth and are not very loud. However, I feel like because they are softer, they dont feel quite as stable when pulling heavy loads as my Toyo AT's did. The Toyo's just seamed a little more planted I guess you would say, at least in my opinion. However, not a big deal really. They are supposed to last a little longer than many other brands. I think you will like them.
@@ChosenAdventures Thanks for the feedback. I’m looking forward to pulling the fifth wheel and seeing how they feel.
MK,exp, hi please get a good set of TPR valves for EACH TIRE, ON YOUR TRUCH &TRAILER, you will be glad you did , before you BLOW a tire, even AMAZON SELLS THEM,,,BYW, are your trailer DISK BRAKES ? Stay well and safe. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks for watching! I’ll have to look into the TPR valves. Our fifth wheel has disc brakes. Thanks again!
ok I'm watching this and looking at the truck and that camper. For the money I think you could have bought a new decked out busy that has an even better diesel engine and even better breaks and probably rides much better all in one unit and trailed a boat.
No way, Prior Lake, MN. I lived there for about 15 years. Great city!
Yah, it was a great city to visit!
Beautiful truck (and trailer). Looks like you gave up the commercial tires. Normally I would not encourage that, but wow, I love the look your truck has now.
Also, if those tires are not directional, you can rotate them left to right. In fact, since the stock rims are only chromed on one side, that's the only option you have with the stock wheels too. The fronts can't go to the back and vice versa… well, unless you want the ugly side of the rims facing out
Thank you Jeff! You’re right about the tires… You can’t rotate them. Thanks again for watching and leaving a comment!
Massaging seats, new wheels for a new truck, 9 mpg = America.
Bill Burr owns a helicopter. You need Bill Burr money. Air bags are a MUST! Nice video. Good luck. :)
Hey James, thanks for watching. Maybe Bill will let me borrow his helicopter. Lol I definitely like air bags. Thanks again watching and leaving comment.
Thank you for this video!
Ever let a salesman tell you what you can tow. The bar entry to car sales isn’t exactly high
Beautiful truck and a great video!
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
Please stop with the impact driver sounds when displaying info, it made me want to mute; however, I liked what you were saying.
Beautiful truck! Which model of the Fuel Forged wheels do you have and where did you buy them? Thanks!
Tim, thank you! I appreciate you watch and leaving a comment. We have the FF39D. We had them installed at a local garage called Outlaw Off-road. Thanks again!
Nice intro, badass truck
Thank you so much!
Love to have one as an everyday RV . Awesome pick up. Are they the biggest pick ups out there across all ranges?
"Ford Guy, Chevy Guy, Dodge Guy.....Toyota Person"...:)
Ben, thanks for watching. 👍🏻
Eat video on the F450 I’ve found.
There’s airbag gooseneck hitches there might be 5th wheel ones too
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Yes, we have an airbag pin box. I like it a lot. Thanks again!
I can’t think of a single reason to own anything but a F4 50 when pulling the big RVs for personal use, in comparing to these 1 ton From ram or GMC there is simply no comparison when you look at the axles brakes tie rods everything the brakes it is a totally different vehicle class on the F4 50 but you’re getting all the benefits of a truck versus cab and chassis
So true....
@@B-rad303 exactly what I said, f450 private use while 1 ton commercial use
@@B-rad303 at what mileage expect need new truck?
@@joemeyer2726 I would hope to get 500k out of it without major problems. Knock on wood.
@@B-rad303 That would be a fantastic plan good luck with that I know that when I talk to hotshot guys a lot of them seem to plan on trading in their trucks at 300,000 because they can still get a decent trade in value at that point but they want to unload the vehicle before that major set of maintenance repairs comes into play
Thanks for the very helpful share...
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Aren't the new 35" Nitto tires you added regular light-duty tires (like that come on a F-350) versus medium-duty tires that come on the 19.5 wheels from the factory on a F-450?
One thing I came across recently is that apparently Ford's payload and tow ratings assume the truck is moving on level ground at sea level. Further, their recommendation is for owners to reduce the payload/tow rating of their specific truck by 2% for every 1000ft of elevation. Apparently Ram and GM do not say to do the same with their trucks, but I have found Ford dealer websites that mention this. What this would basically mean is that the top-towing F-450 with the 37,000lbs rating at sea level would have to drop down to a bit over 28,000lbs if it were towing the same load at the Eisenhower Tunnel in CO. My own F-350 SRW would lose ~2 tons of tow rating if this is actually recommended practice. And do any state laws take this into account?
That’s interesting… I’ve not heard that before. That would definitely change the numbers for sure. Makes you wonder if any states would change their laws. Interesting points to ponder. Thanks again!
I was told insurance is way higher on 450 than a 350
I went with the F-350 Dually….not all Ford dealerships can work on the 450
The 350 dually would have worked
@@josephliversidge9580 Thanks, that’s a great truck too.
Those wheels and tires took away from your payload…. When you hit the scales, they are added to the weight on each axle
1st x viewer. New subscriber!! Great video!!
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Great content.
2019 Jayco Northpoint 385thws 19000 gvwr triple axle toy hauler 44' 11
I have the black f450 on my cell phone screen saver... Lol
@@industrialexitstrategist2022 Nice rig!
@@industrialexitstrategist2022 😂
How has your riverstone held up since you purchased it. I really like the riverstone
Anthony, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. We’ve had a few issues… One was a slide out issue, the motor burned out. The other issue was our bed, it’s on a schwintek system too, due to having a “toy box” in the back. The track was crooked and made the headboard happy hit our overhead cabinets and chipped it. Riverstone replaced it and it’s been good. Really, that’s it. We’ve been happy with it. Thanks again!
@@mkexp. really glad you’re happy with it. Things happen, that’s for sure. My idea for the front kitchen toy hauler was to raise the bed about 12 to 14 inches and have a cabinet maker built some sort of a custom step that wrapped around the bed, for the very reason you mentioned in the bed slide. Maybe remove the switch and cap the wires. I wouldn’t be using it for a garage, more of a shed. If I got one anyway. Love the truck too by the way. I’ve heard nothing but good with kelderman, if you’re still looking for an air ride system on either rig. God bless
@@anthonyshriner4362 Thank you! Sounds like a great plan! It would make for a great “shed” too. Thanks for the airbag tip… You’ll have to let me know if you purchase a Riverstone. God bless and thanks again!
So basically it’s a game changer.
Wonder what btbrv thinks?
🇺🇸 = Ford _____ 🎤 drop
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love the rims
Stephen, thank you so much!
Did the wheel and tire change make the ride smoother?
The ride has been a lot smoother! It’s a quite ride as well. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Mean truck bud,after leveling kit does she squat lower in rear with that riverstone?
Chris, thank you! She doesn’t squat anymore than it did with the factory tires and wheels. It rides smoother on the Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
@@mkexp. thanks for reply bud..I guess I asked the question wrong..I meant to ask if truck still sits level when your towing the 5th wheel..I'm concerned doing 2" level in front would make truck look like it's sagging in rear with 5thwheel connected..I have 2022 ram 3500 dually and has the front rake but when I'm connected to my 5th wheel it goes level..with 2" more up front I'm concerned I'll sag a bit in rear
@@chrisk164 Ok, no, it doesn’t sag due to having lifted it 2 inches.
@@mkexp. ok great..thanks bud..I really want to get that front up a little..stay safe out there buddy
Passionate about trucks lol.
Almost 1,000 subscribers 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Great video 😎
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Would you recommend the 350 or 450 for Hotspot
Who did your mud flaps?
We purchased them from DuraFlap. duraflap.com/
They want us driving a battery powered preus so the can shut the power down and eventually control our movement! But real American men and truck owners need to let the fabric of our past and future shine! Stay strong,informed and 1 step ahead truck owners!!!!
you said 19mpg unloaded? did you run a delete? what mods do you have. I have a 2019 and I get 14
It’s a known fact that 90% of Ford trucks are still on the road today… the other 10% made it home.
They were the first on the road and they will be the last, they’re not number 1 for nothing!
Nice truck! Question are the tires now rated for that much weight VS the commercial high ply tires?
Thank you! Great question, the tires and wheels numbers are slightly different than stock commercial ones. We only gave up a couple hundred pounds going to the Nitto tires and Fuel wheels, but it still more than covers what we need. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Paint the mirror caps gloss black, only leave the lights the way they are. Factory look doesn't fit the loot at all. Look like goofy ears sticking out.
Did you lose any load capacity with the nitto tires?
I didn’t loose load capacity with the Nittos, but I did loose like 80lbs with the Fuel wheels vs the aluminum Alcoa wheels.
I wish they would put a pickup bed on a F550
I have an F550 with a pickup bed. It is my understanding it was a semi custom build.
Put a pick up bed on a Kenworth W900L instead
There’s a company that makes them.
The classy chassis is for the F550 with a gooseneck is the way togo... Ford would need to do a Limited and or Platinum to make since in the new RV world 🌎 of luxury
Check out Elevation Off Grid. They make a F550 conversion but it is fucking PRICEY (like $175k pricey!)! It’s really cool and comes with Liquid Springs upgrade. You can get it in two versions but holy hell thats a lot of money!
Absolutely LOVE that truck! I miss my 350 dually that I had setup like that…….looking for another one realizing that the dream car I got in place of it just isn’t practical for my lifestyle right now. You live and learn!! Appreciate your input.
Kraig, thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I appreciate the kind words… Once you own a truck it’s hard to go back to a car. Even with higher gas prices. Lol Thanks again!
Is it a gas or diesel? You have gas in the title and keep mentioning gas but you're standing in front of a power stroke. Words have means you seem to ignore this
Must be diesel…never seen a 450 gas, seen 350 gas, but never a 450 gas…
it says power stroke 6.7 liter, that usually means it’s a diesel
Great video, well done. I’m waiting on my 22’ F450 I ordered in Lariat trim, very excited! I’m upgrading from a 97’ F250 so it’s a game changer!
Thank you! Nice! Congrats on the new purchase! You’re going to love it! Let me know when you pick it up and your thoughts on it. Thanks again for watching and leaving a comment.
Great review I would recommend a dually to anyone pulling a trailer that extra stability pays for itself.
Not that much difference from my dually 350 to our 450 dually.
I hate the 19.5 tires👎
I would but aHDT,for better safety, pulling a45 footer or so., I KNOW DEISEL ID HIGH NOW, VOTE OUT DEMENTIA JOE…🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
After watching your video a lot, I went to Ford dealer and ordered F450 Limited. I am on priority 12. I hope to get about 17 mpg none towing.
I have an 02 f150 with a v6 manual honestly would be surprised to get 17 mpg
Get me one too! 😁
Seen a f450 parked in my local supermarket recently.Been driving for 40 years and that is the 1st time I have seen one.Took up 2 parking spaces ! Huge truck
Same size as everywhere crew cab dually you must be used to a girl truck
@@pilot41186well the F450 is wider and longer. The 350 dually are already a bitch to park and if that 450s got wide tires, Goodluck
Yeah... except for the slightly wider front track, physically the same size as the 350, I have both.
Wider track makes it easier to park. Yes it does still fit in between the lines. People are just too lazy or too much of an ego to park right. I've got a fleet of trucks and semis I'll fit them anywhere
anybody else notice @ 5:31 he says a 4k lbs payload and then it pops on the screen as 7k lbs payload lol
Anyone that spends that kind of money on the truck they get what they deserve. Those trucks are about only half the price they're asking at most. As soon as you drive them off the lot they drop about $20,000 dollars right off the bat.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I have a F350 Dually and also upgraded to 20" wheels and 37" tires. I am running Ridge grapplers but when not hauling anything i run the tires at 35lbs rear and 40 lbs in the front. Vehicle drives and rides so much better. no need to put maximum pressure in the tires unless you are under max load.
Tim, thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Sounds like a great setup… Do you pull an RV? If so, what brand and size?
You should have clarified in your video that while legally the F3 50 has more payload mechanically the F4 50 has much more payload because of all the commercial grade springs axle breaks everything that goes into that they dropped the payload on the 450 to simply keep that vehicle in the same class as the F3 50 that is why you won’t see F4 50‘s being run by commercial hotshot drivers
Remember the 450 is designed as a cab a chassis which is set up for payload not towing. By the specs the 350 tows more.
@@bill29456 the specs, 450 greater in payload which means towing, but derated so not medium duty
FYI… my 2019 F350 DRW was a GVWR 14000 lbs truck and my 2022 F450 DRW is also 14000 GVWR. No extra payload. None. Zero. Nada. The F350 was a STX trim, 5575 lbs payload. The F450 is a platinum trim truck, 4373lbs payload.
However there ARE bigger brakes.
@@x3dominator28 correct, ford derates to keep light class
Beautiful truck. I'm seeking something similar as I type this out for business purposes.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching our video and leaving a comment. Good luck in your search.
Thanks for the great video! We have the 2019 SRW F-350 and have been searching for our signature red and can’t find one in the dually. We are also part timers and the truck is Bryan’s daily driver, so that’s why we went with the SRW. We are pushing the payload now that we installed solar, so we are on the hunt! Great info on the wheel upgrade. We did that for his truck last fall and love the fancy wheels and tires.
Hey guys! Thank you for watching! Since we’ve had the dually, with some exceptions, it hasn’t bothered us like we thought it may have. We always park far away from other vehicles, as to avoid door dings. Lol We are happy with our new wheels and tires. Michael is looking forward to pulling the fifth wheel and we both can’t wait to see how it rides. We hope you all find a signature red truck! Thanks again!
BROTHER IM TRUCK DRIVER AND I OWN THE SEMI AND TTAILER YOU CAN SEE ON MY UA-cam CHANNEL....
DOR ME IM THINKING TO BUILD OR BUY THE MINIMUM 40 FOOT RV OR BUILT ONE BUT I WILL USE MY STEPDECK AND IS 53FT . BUT EVEN IF I HAVE YOUR RV ON MY SEMI I DO EASY 14 MPG . I DONT THINK WORTH FOR ME getting the pickup truck and if you have the cdl think about .. kw t680 .. yes is more expensive but is another world truck vs the 450 belive me
Never buy an F-450 if it's a gas pot!
Awesome video… thank you for sharing your experience with the 450 :))
I have a 2021 F450 Platinum. It is AntiMater blue.. amazing truck. We have swapped out the 48 gal tank for a 68 gal, added air bags, onboard air/air tank, and of course a train horn. (A must have for smiles). We have a 44ft toy hauler we pull behind. I took my truck to a big rig tire company that services buses and trucks and had them put valve extensions on the back four. They are a must have. Easy to fill my tires now.
Sounds like you have a great setup! I really need to get a train horn. 🙌🏻 Have you liked having the 68 gal tank? I need to get the valve extensions too. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
@@mkexp. the 68 gal fuel take is a game changer when pulling the rig. Really allows you some freedom in planning those fuel stops. I also have the TSD card so i get a discount on fuel and fill up in the trucker lanes at the truck stops. Like you said, gas prices are just what they are and we just deal with them. With the bigger tank i have the ability to pinch some pennies here and their. The train horn is such a must. And the onboard air helps me maintain air pressure in my rig and truck tires.
@@pokie0622 that’s great! I’ll have to look into that. We have the TSD card too. Love it! Thanks for sharing!
Are you in Texas? If yes, what shop did all that work? How much did it cost to do the all extra work?
@@wj2791 hello. I keep my truck in Arizona. The shop there is Cliffs Welding in Mesa, AZ. For all of the work i spent $5000 (+/-) a dollar or two.
If your getting decent " gas" mileage in a diesel truck thats a cool trick !
Sorry its a diesel thing .
😂 I hear ya…. Thanks for watching!
my question is ...how does it ride compared to the 350? is it alot stiffer and how is it unloaded? thanks
The ride is about the same as the 350, but the game changer is wide track front axle. The turning radius is great. The overall ride is nice. It even got better when I switched out the tires to the Nitto Ridge Grappler’s.
Your salesman knew you needed the dually , but loved the idea of you trading it in and buying bigger.
biggest selling point (for me) of the 450 is the turning radius
Thanks Mike! Keep these videos coming. We tow a 42’ Grand Design Solitude. It’s interesting to see how many people think four wheels is just as good as six for big RVs. No concept that each wheel can handle so much weight. Also not understanding the difference in stability bc of the wider footprint.
We also went with a black 2022 Platinum. My wife did not care for the Admiral Blue interior. She wants to work for Ford on picking color palettes. LOL 😂
You’re welcome! Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. Good points you bring up… understanding how much weight each axle can carry is super important. Also, having a wider footprint with a dually adds better stability. I’m glad you have a black platinum too! Maybe your wife should apply for a interior design job with Ford. 😂 Thanks again, Michael
Old guy here. Owned over a dozen diesel pickups.
Rule 1) Alway, ALWAYS, buy the biggest truck you can afford. Mileage is the same from a Toyota Tacoma to an F450.
Rule 2) There's no such thing as too much truck. See rule #1?
I have also made the mistake of going SRW for ease of commute - despite knowing better (sigh). Ended up back in a DRW. Used to be Cummins equipped trucks but switched to F450 and glad I did (Cummins is great, Powerstroke has caught up imo, but Fiat/Peugeot trucks are horrible).
Mark, thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Sounds like you made the same mistake I did… Love having my F-450 now!
is 5th wheel stronger then the ball inside the bed ? looking to haul flatbed cdl trailer
For hauling a flatbed trailer, I’d say the gooseneck is a great option. The brand Reese also makes a gooseneck hitch for fifth wheels as well. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment
Are you still happy with the tire upgrade? How do you feel the ride and mpg difference is with the 20's load range e vs the stock 19.5s?
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I’m still happy with the results. Lifting the front end 2” changed the mpg a little. But the ride is smoother with the Nitto Ridge Grappler tires(35’s). The load range didn’t change much going from the aluminum rims to the steel 20’s. Thanks again, Michael
@@mkexp. Thanks Michael, that is really helpful. We love our F450, but even with all of the suspension upgrades we did, is still rides rougher than we would like. A different tire/wheel setup is what I am currently investigating. I assume you have had no issues towing your fifth wheel with these new tires, right?
@@AlTraynor No issues! We love how it rides.
Do you still get the thread squirm with the new wheels and tires. I'm trying to see if it's worth the investment for a smoother ride, thanks
I don't notice any. The ride has been smoother with the Ridge Grapplers.
Good video 👍🏻. I was in the same position as you were. I have 43’ Raptor toy hauler and started with a F-350 short wheel base truck. Like you stated it pulled it fine but just a little too light. Anyway I upgraded to a 2022 F-450 and WOW what a difference!! My question is I really like your tire and wheel set up. Can you send me a link for that exact set up? Once again great video and thanks!!
Jacky, thanks for watching! So glad you're loving your F-450... We love ours. Here's a list of our wheels and tires. We went with 20" wheels. Tires 35's
Fuel Forged FF39D Front: www.fueloffroad.com/wheel/12170/fuel-dually-wheels-ff39d-10-lug-front/?finishID=4748&lugs=10
FF39D Rear: www.fueloffroad.com/wheel/10868/fuel-dually-wheels-ff39d-10-lug-rear/?finishID=4748&lugs=10
Tires: www.amazon.com/dp/B01MAXN5R6?tag=onamzmichandk-20&linkCode=ssc&creativeASIN=B01MAXN5R6&asc_item-id=amzn1.ideas.1OTTBTNUHQJ9G
Thanks again for watching and leaving a comment! - Michael
@@mkexp. Can I do the 20" Fuel Forged Wheels + Nitto Ridge Grappler 35" without lifting the front by 2"? What was the main reason for lifting? How much did it cost to do all? Where is the shop?
@@wj2791 Thank you! I wanted to lift the front 2 inches just in general. I’d done that to a different truck I owned… But with the 35’s I believe I had to lift it, because they would’ve rubbed on sharp turns. Total cost was in the $10,000 range. We had the work done at Outlaw Off-road in Greensboro, NC.
@@mkexp. thank you for many great info. I am now waiting for the order book to come open so that I can order 2023 F450 Limited. Once I get it, I will study and learn from your experiences.
@@wj2791 You’re welcome! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Congrats on the new truck! Keep me posted on how you like it. Thanks again!
Beautiful truck.!! I have an F150 that i bought new in 2005 Lariat edition with 5.4l. I was getting average 11.5mpg mostly city driving. Frame rotted out and im in the process of trying to patch up the frame. My daily drive is an 09 corolla xrs. Costs me about 30 dollars every 2 weeks to fill ot up .lol.
I don't have anything to justify the purchase. Love the truck.
Thank you!
Do I need an F-450 no but I want one absolutely!
Nice truck man! 🤙🇺🇸
Tyler, Thank you! 😁👍🏻
God Bless You. That's a Beautiful Truck you have there. Congrats. 🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
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Great content folks! Your video is one of the reason the wife and i are upgrading our f350 diesel. Our goal is that in the next couple of months, we can snag a new (or slightly used) 2023 ford f450 limited high output diesel to pull our 43 feet momentum toy hauler and to keep going with the fulltime rv living. Stay safe and happy trails. Howdy from the Nevada desert!
Thank you! Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment. Happy to hear our video helped. We love our F-450! You’ll have to let us know when you pick one up. Good luck with your search. Safe travels! - Michael
You didn’t mention how all the manufacturers tank the gvwr due to regulations of the 14k max payload. Realistically payload is 1-2 thousand pounds more than the f350.
I see no reason they could take the extra thousand pound payload loss between and f350 and f450 and made the f450 gvwr 15k. 15k is the maximum gvwr you can have in 99% of the 50 states to be insured on a personal policy. After 15k, needs to be a commercial policy.
All for the low low of 140k
I do railroad work...This my experience from working everyday with a f450 xlt with flatbed, large generator in back, 3 large toolboxes, tons of tools, etc.. pulling a 30 ft bumper pull trailer hauling a 580N 4wd backhoe and full gas tank and 4 passengers. So that's say 25k pounds trailer and backhoe not counting truck payload. The truck pulled it like it wasn't shit. Now stopping was definitely harder. I had to be careful giving myself enough space in the big city traffic. Pulling the bigger gooseneck loaded heavier than that was a breeze too. You can tell a big difference pulling it with the ram 3500 dually vs the f450. The Ford wins hands down.
That’s quite the load you had there. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I love the torque of the F-450.