I’m a hobbyist musician and have both BeatMaker 3 and Cubasis. BeatMaker 3 has crashed way too many times on me, whereas Cubasis may have crashed once or twice. Beatmaker 3’s interface is still awkward for me. Sometimes a window pops up when you tap something but then you don’t know how to hide it again. Also, copying and pasting patterns is very odd and non-standard. However, Beatmaker 3’s sampler is really excellent, especially time stretching samples. But as a DAW, I still prefer Cubasis 3.
I prefer beat maker 3 because it works like a MPC . I have fl studios and I wanted a MPC because of the key pads and the way you could sample using them .I was about to spend 2k on a MPC but beat maker 3 has the same functionality that I was looking for . Feels like the old school MPC I use to have that doesn’t work anymore lol
I’ve gone full circle GarageBand->BeatMaker 3->Cubasis then questioning if a full DAW on iOS is really the best direction? Am I replacing my Mac/Logic studio? No. I use my iPad and iPhone at the ideas stage to create beats, collect samples, design sounds and melody’s. In that regard, I keep coming back to GarageBand with its producer packs and strong community support and it’s sampler, alchemy synth, smart drummer, samples and content from Apple. Cubasis 3 is trying to be Cubase on iOS and I’m not sure that’s where iOS music production is going 😮💨
Cubasis definitely needs an option to do manual-only save, like Beatmaker and NanoStudio. I like to open up existing projects and tweak them and be able to go back to the original, can’t do that with Cubasis. Also sometimes I open up a project and I get inspired to create a different song, in Beatmaker and NanoStudio I can just keep going right on top of the opened project and then (if I like what I’ve done) simply Save As a new project. And the previous project would be completely unaffected. I find this process gets my creativity a huge boost, and also creates continuity between tracks so that if I put a few songs on an album they don’t feel all over the place but feel like they belong together. Because of this I never have creative blocks, I just go through several of my projects and something usually develops. Like brainstorming. Cubase was my fav DAW on pc and I prefer everything in the iOS version to Beatmaker, but I feel Cubasis 3 is still almost as badly organized as Cubasis 2 when it comes to project management and files, Beatmaker is a clear winner in this regard.
The problem is CB3 is double the cost. It should look better and honestly it should be more fluid. Yet I don’t like the editing in CB3. BM3 does need updating but I still like the work flow better in BM3. Cubasis 3 just annoys me for the price.
I tried Beatmaker 3 first. Lagged, crashed, deleted app. Even if Beatmaker 3 was clearly better, I’m getting used to Cubasis 3 now. Auto save is ok, but I would like to have different versions saved.
I definitely will be picking up Cubasis the next time it goes on sale. I can not afford to pay $50 for it, especially if I’m not sure I will actually like the workflow. I do own Beatmaker 3 currently, but I like the Ableton vibes of Cubasis. So it could work.
New M1 iPad Pro mostly perform 30% to 50% better in processor, but for memory totally the same compare to 2020 model including 2018 and the rest. The loading apps to 2018 model is far better about 4 seconds or more. I watch the video from other channel last month. In case you can not wait for him to make another video, at least you already know.
In Cubasis 3, I made a drone sound. I tried to fade it in, but there was no sound because the volume starts at zero. Since the key was only hit at the beginning, it doesn’t have a chance to get started.
Thanks for the BM3 tutorials. Really starting to like BM3 but some of the controls are honestly too small (and dark) for comfortable use over several hours .... is there a way to change the background color from black to white? Anyway... awesome stuff.
Thanks so much for such great work. May I suggest that you show the names of the products you mention on the screen as you are talking about them. It would be really helpful thank you so much
Cubasis depose the have its own sound packs but does have real effects and a desk top fill. The drums in it suck and you have to use plugins. Beatmaker 3 is a cheaper easier mulch better alternative.
Both of them need to allow you to explode the drums. All those tracks and they can separate the midi notes on different tracks. That’s annoying. Why do you have to have 15 additional tracks with nothing on them?
What about the sound quality? Does BM3 sound good enough for professional mixes ?it sounds IMOP a little thin, but of course , it’s subjective. I guess adding some FabFilter plugs on the master could help solve that too.
Hey Fb London! I personally haven’t messed with the 909 auv3, but I’ve heard many a report from people about having issues with some of the AudioKit plugins. Hopefully it’s been resolved for you by now. I’d definitely write the devs if it’s still an issue
Does Cubasis 3 come with enough content to justify getting or the ability to create your own sounds from built in drumsynths? Spending $50, I’d want to be sure I’m getting enough content.
Nice video! 👏 I use my iPad mainly for my music channel here on YT... obviously. I use GarageBand. Are these other two similar? Better iyo? Is so, how?
Thanks! 🙏🏽 Personally, although I think the aesthetics and workflow as well as some of the instruments in Garageband are way better, both Cubasis and BeatMaker 3 are better picks in my opinion for a couple key reasons: 1. No AUv3 FX plugins in Garageband 2. No dedicated mixer page 3. No automation. Those are absolute deal breakers for me, since they are essential to what I do. Both BeatMaker 3 and Cubasis 3 have those bases covered.
This is a solid take. Funny thing is I knew nothing about the MPC world coming into BM3 for iPad, but I just fell in love with the workflow. I came from a decade plus of FL Studio
@@MusicTechnologist I can fully understand that. FL Studio attracts a lot of often young producers with a very wide range spectrum of musical orientations. Unfortunately Image line never really made it into the iOS world. (Their iOS app can’t keep up with the bigger players.)
Thanks for the comparison. I have both but I am more productive on BM3, the layout and colors are the best for me. Cubasis is awful aestheticaly, I can't use it because of that ... Yeah because of that ! I am glad that Steinberg are putting a lot of efforts in this product but I hope that they put more efforts aestethically, because some people do care. Peace
Beatmaker is better for working with MPC style pads. I can change scales on the pad quickly and easily and have multiple pad setups at my fingertips. OTH I find Cubasis better for linear editing on the timeline. And Cubasis is unstable for me. But it hadles MPE midi better and gives you access to Waves plugins.
I am waiting for my new IPad Pro 2021 M1 Ipad and I make music with my Alto sax and my Roland Aerophone AE windsynth and want to be able to play backing tracks and add drums and keys etc would you think BM3 is more suitable that CB3 I am fairly new to recording been messing with Live lite mainly on my laptop till now I love your video and have subscribed to you keep up the hard work
does beatmaker 3 have an option for multiple midi tempo change within a song? i love cubasis 3 but it doesnt have tempo change. thank you for your wonderful and informative video!
I play Viola and I'm looking for a very simple daw to edit my simple home recordings. My knowledge about daw is very limited. Could you please suggest me something?
@@tsg50647 That's not really good for editing home recordings. First, ya gotta buy it, second: audio tracks aren't its strong point. I think Garage Band would do a better job. And it's free. My 2c.
I'm classical guitar player and I started with Garageband and I was using it for months, It's easy to learn and when I understand a bit of music editing I proved Cubasis. Now I use both 😅
Cubasis is like a dumbed down desktop daw. Might as well use a laptop with the "full" version. BM3 is more like an MPC. A sampler instrument with a sequencer. A workflow you can't as easily recreate on a laptop.
I actually really like your take on this. Hadn’t thought of it like that, but now that I think about it, I think that is exactly why I’m more drawn to BM3
Hi, i am struggling in Beatmaker 3 to build and edit pattern and scenes. I come from ableton live on Mac. And I just don’t like the way beatmaker 3 layout with that. How is the workflow with cubasis 3? Thanks for your content.
Which app has the better effects processor? I would not create beats on either of these but I would transfer my audio tracks over to them and mix a project.
Why does AUM and Koala not get the love they deserve? I will never understand it... the MIDI matrix and ability to map CC to hardware controllers... you can't beat it!
I think the build your own modular daw is too much for some people to wrap their mind around. I mean I get I could use a midi piano roll editor and an audio recorder plugin with AUM and have a killer daw. But sometimes I just want to bust out some tunes without thinking about all of that.
Yeah, tbh AUM (from what I’ve seen) just has too much friction in the workflow for me to want to use it regularly. I like a more streamlined experience. With Koala, I don’t think it has every feature that I would need in order to use it exclusively. I don’t like jumping between DAWs, I generally just pick one and learn it well and then stick with it, unless something significantly better comes around. To be fair though, I haven’t really given AUM or Koala a fair shake yet.
I’m a hobbyist musician and have both BeatMaker 3 and Cubasis. BeatMaker 3 has crashed way too many times on me, whereas Cubasis may have crashed once or twice. Beatmaker 3’s interface is still awkward for me. Sometimes a window pops up when you tap something but then you don’t know how to hide it again. Also, copying and pasting patterns is very odd and non-standard. However, Beatmaker 3’s sampler is really excellent, especially time stretching samples. But as a DAW, I still prefer Cubasis 3.
I prefer beat maker 3 because it works like a MPC . I have fl studios and I wanted a MPC because of the key pads and the way you could sample using them .I was about to spend 2k on a MPC but beat maker 3 has the same functionality that I was looking for . Feels like the old school MPC I use to have that doesn’t work anymore lol
I’ve gone full circle GarageBand->BeatMaker 3->Cubasis then questioning if a full DAW on iOS is really the best direction? Am I replacing my Mac/Logic studio? No. I use my iPad and iPhone at the ideas stage to create beats, collect samples, design sounds and melody’s. In that regard, I keep coming back to GarageBand with its producer packs and strong community support and it’s sampler, alchemy synth, smart drummer, samples and content from Apple. Cubasis 3 is trying to be Cubase on iOS and I’m not sure that’s where iOS music production is going 😮💨
Cubasis definitely needs an option to do manual-only save, like Beatmaker and NanoStudio. I like to open up existing projects and tweak them and be able to go back to the original, can’t do that with Cubasis. Also sometimes I open up a project and I get inspired to create a different song, in Beatmaker and NanoStudio I can just keep going right on top of the opened project and then (if I like what I’ve done) simply Save As a new project. And the previous project would be completely unaffected. I find this process gets my creativity a huge boost, and also creates continuity between tracks so that if I put a few songs on an album they don’t feel all over the place but feel like they belong together. Because of this I never have creative blocks, I just go through several of my projects and something usually develops. Like brainstorming. Cubase was my fav DAW on pc and I prefer everything in the iOS version to Beatmaker, but I feel Cubasis 3 is still almost as badly organized as Cubasis 2 when it comes to project management and files, Beatmaker is a clear winner in this regard.
The problem is CB3 is double the cost. It should look better and honestly it should be more fluid. Yet I don’t like the editing in CB3. BM3 does need updating but I still like the work flow better in BM3. Cubasis 3 just annoys me for the price.
Great comparison. Hadn't checked out Cubasis 3 so it was great to see a deeper comparison.
Thanks! 👍🏽 Glad it was helpful!
We need this for 2022. 💪🏾. The gap is getting wider. 😢
I tried Beatmaker 3 first. Lagged, crashed, deleted app. Even if Beatmaker 3 was clearly better, I’m getting used to Cubasis 3 now. Auto save is ok, but I would like to have different versions saved.
I definitely will be picking up Cubasis the next time it goes on sale. I can not afford to pay $50 for it, especially if I’m not sure I will actually like the workflow. I do own Beatmaker 3 currently, but I like the Ableton vibes of Cubasis. So it could work.
It's on sale, today is the last day.
There is something important to flag. BeatMaker is able to route any midi channel / audio to any other audio track.
Yes, that is a feature that I really like, although in Cubasis 3, the ability to freeze/unfreeze tracks with one click is unmatched.
Awesome vids man. Learned a lot from you, thanks!
If I’m not mistaken you can get Cubasis 3LE for free then buy the full upgrade for $30 rather than buying the Cubasis 3 for 50 bucks.
Very informative, please can you do a vid of stress testing the iPad Pro 2021 with multiple AUV3 in Beat maker 3 pleaseee 🙏🏽🙏🏽
100% we need a vid stress testing multiple AUV3 plugins in beatmaker 3
New M1 iPad Pro mostly perform 30% to 50% better in processor, but for memory totally the same compare to 2020 model including 2018 and the rest. The loading apps to 2018 model is far better about 4 seconds or more.
I watch the video from other channel last month.
In case you can not wait for him to make another video, at least you already know.
Great video both are good you just have to decide which one fits your workflow and if use both together then the possibility are limitless
Thanks Yo Surv! 👍🏽 I definitely 2nd that!
In Cubasis 3, I made a drone sound. I tried to fade it in, but there was no sound because the volume starts at zero. Since the key was only hit at the beginning, it doesn’t have a chance to get started.
This keeps happening to me as well
Thanks for the BM3 tutorials. Really starting to like BM3 but some of the controls are honestly too small (and dark) for comfortable use over several hours .... is there a way to change the background color from black to white? Anyway... awesome stuff.
Thank you!! Saw Cubasis 3 on sale but think I’m gonna stick with BeatMaker 3 after seeing this
Cool! Yeah, I'm still working in BM3 myself as well!
Beat maker 3 is doing the most for me
The only good thing about BeatMaker 3 is the loop slicer.
It's also MUCH better for working with an MPC style controller.
Thanks so much for such great work. May I suggest that you show the names of the products you mention on the screen as you are talking about them. It would be really helpful thank you so much
Thanks Frank! That’s a great suggestion! 👍🏽 I’ll keep that in mind going forward
Cubasis depose the have its own sound packs but does have real effects and a desk top fill. The drums in it suck and you have to use plugins. Beatmaker 3 is a cheaper easier mulch better alternative.
Both of them need to allow you to explode the drums. All those tracks and they can separate the midi notes on different tracks. That’s annoying. Why do you have to have 15 additional tracks with nothing on them?
What about the sound quality? Does BM3 sound good enough for professional mixes ?it sounds IMOP a little thin, but of course , it’s subjective. I guess adding some FabFilter plugs on the master could help solve that too.
I got BeatMaker 3 today but am having problem when I try to load audio kit 909 au3 it won’t show in BeatMaker 3 any help be appreciated
Hey Fb London! I personally haven’t messed with the 909 auv3, but I’ve heard many a report from people about having issues with some of the AudioKit plugins. Hopefully it’s been resolved for you by now. I’d definitely write the devs if it’s still an issue
Please can Beat Maker 3 be use on windows or apple laptop?
Def BM3 for me!
Right on! Me too for now!
Does Cubasis 3 come with enough content to justify getting or the ability to create your own sounds from built in drumsynths? Spending $50, I’d want to be sure I’m getting enough content.
Nice video! 👏 I use my iPad mainly for my music channel here on YT... obviously. I use GarageBand. Are these other two similar? Better iyo? Is so, how?
Thanks! 🙏🏽 Personally, although I think the aesthetics and workflow as well as some of the instruments in Garageband are way better, both Cubasis and BeatMaker 3 are better picks in my opinion for a couple key reasons: 1. No AUv3 FX plugins in Garageband 2. No dedicated mixer page 3. No automation. Those are absolute deal breakers for me, since they are essential to what I do. Both BeatMaker 3 and Cubasis 3 have those bases covered.
Yeah both great. Beatmaker 3 probably more oriented towards beatmakers (maybe coming from Akai MPC) and Cubasis 3 towards traditional daw users.
This is a solid take. Funny thing is I knew nothing about the MPC world coming into BM3 for iPad, but I just fell in love with the workflow. I came from a decade plus of FL Studio
@@MusicTechnologist I can fully understand that. FL Studio attracts a lot of often young producers with a very wide range spectrum of musical orientations. Unfortunately Image line never really made it into the iOS world. (Their iOS app can’t keep up with the bigger players.)
Thanks for the comparison. I have both but I am more productive on BM3, the layout and colors are the best for me. Cubasis is awful aestheticaly, I can't use it because of that ... Yeah because of that ! I am glad that Steinberg are putting a lot of efforts in this product but I hope that they put more efforts aestethically, because some people do care. Peace
Respect. I know some people love the Cubasis layout, but it is very complex. BeatMaker 3 is quite a bit more inviting and easier to manage.
Beatmaker is better for working with MPC style pads. I can change scales on the pad quickly and easily and have multiple pad setups at my fingertips.
OTH I find Cubasis better for linear editing on the timeline. And Cubasis is unstable for me. But it hadles MPE midi better and gives you access to Waves plugins.
I am waiting for my new IPad Pro 2021 M1 Ipad and I make music with my Alto sax and my Roland Aerophone AE windsynth and want to be able to play backing tracks and add drums and keys etc would you think BM3 is more suitable that CB3 I am fairly new to recording been messing with Live lite mainly on my laptop till now I love your video and have subscribed to you keep up the hard work
does beatmaker 3 have an option for multiple midi tempo change within a song? i love cubasis 3 but it doesnt have tempo change. thank you for your wonderful and informative video!
Really helpful video. Thanks! Do either of the apps have built in samples or is it all IAPs?
Beatmaker has the better sampler, bit I believe it comes with fewer but in sounds.
I love, use and swear by them both!
You can’t sidechain the EG Pulse pads?
I play Viola and I'm looking for a very simple daw to edit my simple home recordings. My knowledge about daw is very limited. Could you please suggest me something?
Korg Gadget 2
@@tsg50647 thanks 👍
@@tsg50647 That's not really good for editing home recordings. First, ya gotta buy it, second: audio tracks aren't its strong point. I think Garage Band would do a better job. And it's free. My 2c.
I'm classical guitar player and I started with Garageband and I was using it for months, It's easy to learn and when I understand a bit of music editing I proved Cubasis. Now I use both 😅
@@jesuserlosalvadorpalomino9280 muchas gracias, Jesús! 👍
Cubasis is like a dumbed down desktop daw. Might as well use a laptop with the "full" version. BM3 is more like an MPC. A sampler instrument with a sequencer. A workflow you can't as easily recreate on a laptop.
I actually really like your take on this. Hadn’t thought of it like that, but now that I think about it, I think that is exactly why I’m more drawn to BM3
Coming from maschine I choose beatmaker 3
is there a bounce down to audio feature on any of these programs? i love working with audio rather than midi
Yes! You can export a full song, or even the audio stems in both!
excellent video but where can I buy the cubasis ?
Thanks Elio! 🙏🏽 Right here ➡️ apps.apple.com/us/app/cubasis-3/id1207839273
Can u suggest some vocal tuner or synth app fr bm3 ……i was looking at voice bot and voice synth .
Hi, i am struggling in Beatmaker 3 to build and edit pattern and scenes. I come from ableton live on Mac. And I just don’t like the way beatmaker 3 layout with that. How is the workflow with cubasis 3? Thanks for your content.
its close to abelton .
Which app has the better effects processor? I would not create beats on either of these but I would transfer my audio tracks over to them and mix a project.
Your gonna want to get effects plug ins with either
I use koala sampler and cubasis on both android and ios.
Nice! 👍🏽
So guys, which one you prefer?
Still rocking with BM3 here. We'll see what happens in the future!
@@MusicTechnologist so do I mate, lol
For guitar based music, Cubasis or BM3 ?
TBH, you could do it with either, but if you’re primarily going to be recording live guitar, Cubasis 3 might be a better bet.
Cubase corrupts projects too...I would personally stay away from that daw...
Cubasis is easy for fading and lowering volumes. 😆 $50 it better be easy to do this. 😝
Why don’t you just use them both together
How would you do that? And if you can, how can you do it without the logistics of it annoying the crap out of ya, LOL.
@@drinkinslim true
I export stems from Beatmaker to Cubasis. It works, but it is a pain in the ass.
Yeah, the workflow of trying to use both is a mess. I’m all about ease of use!
I mean it wasn t the best ideea to compare them.
are you stupid ? of course it was ,thats way we are here
Why does AUM and Koala not get the love they deserve? I will never understand it... the MIDI matrix and ability to map CC to hardware controllers... you can't beat it!
I think the build your own modular daw is too much for some people to wrap their mind around. I mean I get I could use a midi piano roll editor and an audio recorder plugin with AUM and have a killer daw. But sometimes I just want to bust out some tunes without thinking about all of that.
Yeah, tbh AUM (from what I’ve seen) just has too much friction in the workflow for me to want to use it regularly. I like a more streamlined experience. With Koala, I don’t think it has every feature that I would need in order to use it exclusively. I don’t like jumping between DAWs, I generally just pick one and learn it well and then stick with it, unless something significantly better comes around. To be fair though, I haven’t really given AUM or Koala a fair shake yet.
Free apps ??
Garageband is the best free music production app out there!
Cool Edit Pro is still better that cubase lol
Both are just garbage and way too buggy. It's a shame for the iPad