🤯 WRONG! NanoStudio 2 CAN LOAD AUv3s. Somehow my brain has blocked that out. I made a whole video about it >>> ua-cam.com/video/zjUKK_lv5bk/v-deo.html - 🤦♂️ Assumptions is the mother of all f*ck ups!
I was actually surprised, I never expected you will say that wrong, I thought they stopped auv3 support. So I went to check in my ipad if auv3 support is still there in NS2 😅
I listened to the whole presentation. I’m a guitarist using midi guitar 2 & a Roland Juno G & M Audio 25. I’m 64 and diving into this app world and loving it. It is a learning curve.
Man remember when you got your first guitar and ya learned 14 chords: 7majors and 7minors. And after that some one told you about some flats and sharps. And you thought 24 chords was plenty for now. I’m 64 too and I never thought I’d ever be writing. Then the 21st century happened !
I loaded Nano Studio 1 on my iPad 1st gen recently just to make it useful again. Not many apps work on it anymore (it runs iOS 5), but NS1 is more than enough to keep it around for some casual fun. I love Nano Studio 2 also of course, but I primarily use Cubasis because it is the most generically flexible DAW for iOS. If NS2 had audio tracks, though, I would probably use it a lot more just because it is so well designed. And yes, the built in synth and drum machine in NS2 is so good, it is easy to forget it supports AUv3. Ha!
I like to write in Nanostudio and Gadget and then send audio and/or midi files over to Cubasis for final mixing and effects or to use different synths. Usually via AudioShare.
I have been using Roland Zenbeats and prefer it over everything else. Needs some tweaks but has a lot going for it including audio tracks and AU automation.
I've heard that they will be integrating Zenbeats with some of their other hardware that utilize the Zen Core engine. I'd start using it if it worked well with my MC 707.
Hey, Jakob! First, the tracks: 1:50, 3:52...Awesome!! Which underscores the point you emphasize in the video, that you’re here to make music...and finding an environment with sounds and methods that inspire and work for you is as good as it gets. Still, it’s good to get away...you may even find a second home. I’m still blown away that we can carry this stuff in our (oversized) pockets.
She was right. Describing these from the perspective of what those mean to you musically was the best path. I do own those four apps (well, I have Cubasis 2, not 3). Haven’t used them that much since adopting AUM. NS1 was part of my entry into iOS musicking, at the time, along with ThumbJam. Did enjoy how it sounded but the workflow didn’t stick, for me. Even less so with BM1 and BM2. Bought NS2 and BM3, tried them a few times… I’d need to carefully follow a tutorial to get my head around them. The second phase of my iOS musicking came through Korg Gadget, around the time iWavestation came out. That pseudo-DAW did allow me to discover quite a few things, musically. It was quite satisfying. And I occasionally use the plugins from the macOS version. The cool thing about Gadget itself, I find, is about the simplicity of putting things together. Like a simplified version of Live. It’s great that you can work on the same projects between the two platforms and the Ableton Live Project export is a good idea (which makes me wish Bitwig Studio were able to load those!). My main issue really is the lack of AUv3 support. That and the lack of MPE support. Which brings me back to Cubasis 2. Its MPE support is fine, so I occasionally do record things in there. I wouldn’t do much editing. It’s really about putting things together. Thing is, though, I achieve most of the same thing in a “DAWfree mode” using AUM (or apeMatrix or AB3). I’ll record little MIDI snippets in Photon or use some AU MIDI plugins (like Rozeta Bassline, Riffer, or Autony) to generate some patterns. Or I’ll play a softsynth using my windcontroller. Or I’ll noodle for a while with a ROLI Lightpad M Block. Playing with a whole bunch of AUv3 plugins is so rewarding and inspiring and fun and easy… My actual vote would be: none of these. The one I’ve used the most is Cubasis 2.
I never used a pc for music, so never cubase, nor anything else, so cubasis is alien to me 🤷♂️. Ipad fave ended up being nanostudio, after passing thru audiobus and finding 'digital glue' isn't necessarily my thing.
Great video Jakob! I had already commented...an emotional outburst towards Cubasis 3, but like you (and perhaps because of you), I own all 4 of these DAWS...and some other less DAW type DAWS lol. I like you, realize where each one fits with regard to my music production. I use Cubasis the most because that’s my “final production app” where the finished product of whatever song I’ve created will end up to be mastered. Additionally, this applies to my DAWless/Standalone equipment like the OP-1, OP-Z etc. I use Gadget predominantly via iOS (even though I have the desktop version - I’ll use my iPad first). I have fallen out of NanoStudio and honestly feel BM3 has been lying comatose for a while now but whenever I want to sample or make a trap style beat I’ll generally start there.
Very informative and explained easily to understand. I think GarageBand is on the list for me as well. Slightly disappointed with Cubasis guys in not asking for a slightly cheaper upgrade price for v3 from v2.
Fantastic video. I’m just like you, the environment affects the music so much and I can’t really stick with one DAW. I am trying to decide whether or not to buy Cubasis - I have the other 3 and find myself using NS2 the most. Thanks for the vid brother PS - I love how you say Jakob!
Great video !! Loved it. I hate how Cubasis 3 was launched unfinished. I lost hours of work. Decided not to use it any more (lost trust completely) and went for DAW on my Mac + gadget iOS combo with AUM.
I wish there was an iOS version of Ableton. I don’t get along with purely linear DAWs. Beatmaker is the closest to that workflow, but it’s far too unstable 🙄 Keeps crashing and then I have to redo everything from the last save point. With the last track I made in Beatmaker I had 3 crashes in an hour and got fed up, so I exported what I had done so far and finished it in Ableton. Infuriating! AUM is cool, but like you said elsewhere, it’s not a proper DAW, so complex arrangements get difficult too.
I tried all of these apps. None of them sticks to me so far, except gadget maybe somewhat. But usually I just load AUM and have my Deluge sequence the iPad. Because all of them have grids in the end and the combination of grids and touch screens is just wrong, even the nice grid of NanoStudio still feels wrong to me. On the Deluge the grids consist of actual buttons that you can feel, and you hardly ever click the wrong one. So AUM is my way, but recently i started using gadgets from the Deluge as well, and that is nice too because the gadgets have such unique and playful characters.
Awesome as always! I have Cubasis 2 , Gadget 2 ,FL Studio and access to Garage Band ect ... Atm Ive only installed the first 2 mentioned because im concerned about memory and lag from lack of . Im using ipad 32gb 6 gen . Should i worry about that ? How do you manage your data ? Also do you use autotune ? Thank you and much respect.
The lack of time signature/tempo change in Cubasis I found limiting, the lack of audio in NS2 is frustrating, the gadgets in Korg Gadget are stripped down versions of the synths models that I bought I can't get the same patches in Gadget that are in the stand alone version this was very disappointing to discover afterwards. I have the same feeling towards beatmaker as you did about the hardware, I don't get the workflow and it is not musical to me. I also got Auria Pro which has audio tracks, and tempo/time signature change but the sequencing is clunky
I use all of these and a few of others besides. I cannot justify it. Pointing out the storage space, money, and discontinuity issues with my way of doing things makes no impression on me. I'm happy to call it an illness, but it is not that so much as an appreciation of difference, of alternate takes on the creative process. Each brings something personally worthwhile or it sinks into disuse and sometimes gets unloaded. I can say my view of the strengths of these apps overlaps with yours (though maybe we differ on connection and format options in NS . . .), even if my associations of the apps with given musical styles branch off. You highlight some of the things I would about why these apps deserve attention. I should mention that I am annoyed about Steinberg's Cubasis 3 release and their choice to blame Apple for declining to offer even minimally discounted upgrade pricing to existing users. That and the widely discussed plague of bugs that infested the new app (QA? - that's what paying customers are for, silly human). Also, BM has been in a reduced rotation here because of its old file-management issues. The whole Apple mobile platform sucks for file management, yet somehow BM is worse still, with duplication and eventual confusion baked into way BM saves and groups things. Whenever I think of going into BM, all I have to do to dissuade myself is to remember saving or reusing projects or parts of projects in the app. That will usually put me off my pad for at least an hour. Probably it is just me. Usually it is just me, whatever the subject. That's okay. Thanks for all this stuff, Jakob.
Dude, thanks for this. Came at the perfect time. Questions: 1. Do you export the MIDI, or just the audio for these apps? 2. Do you make use of Ableton as well? Nutrix made a video about how he uses Gadget and Auria. 3. Cubasis 2 or 3? 4. Would you consider AUM as another component? Henny made a video and mentioned AUM and Cubasis, along with Garageband.
1. Only Audio (I’ve exported MIDI from Cubasis to use in other apps though). 2. I Haven’t used desktop or laptop computers for music production since switched to iOS 6-7 years ago. 3. As for now Cubasis 2 but only for the reasons I mentioned at: 7:41. Otherwise I’d say 3. 4. I only use AUM as a Live performance and Jamming platform. I’d rather not do any other types of intricate setups with other apps. Hope this answers your questions! 👍🏼
@@JakobHaq Perfect. Thanks again for the encouragement to make my UA-cam channel at the Audiobus 3 forum. Here's hoping I can make something awesome before the end of the year.
Kai Aras is actually the developer of Shockwave and VOLT synth. He is one of the devs I talk to a lot. Matt Borstel ( 3:00 ) is the developer of NanoStudio 2. 👍🏼 I should probably have written that out under Kais name instead of just app developer.
First, my comments were just about that I use the same ones, when I go mobile, but...Stop.. YOU are the guy with the mellow album? Respect, one of the best albums in the genre I am actually listening to. And, being Chillwalker and publishing my Tracks since 2002...there aren't a lot of them. Face it...the most music from the genre is boring! So: Hughe thumbs up from my side of the screen!
Aw thank you so much. Means a lot to me that you like my mellow album. Btw there is a short documentary about the album if you haven’t seen it. Link: ua-cam.com/video/xPE7bUk5WRw/v-deo.html I’ll make sure to check your your music too. 😊
Hello Jakob, Thanks a lot for this video giving your opinion and sincerity on the DAWs. I would be interested to know what features are missing in the Audio Track editing tool (sampler) of Beatmaker 3 according to you? If you could provide us with an exhaustive list would be great. Many thanks for your great reliable work as usual. 💯👌🏼✅😎👏
I can totally see Cubasis (or even Auria) as a final destination for every project, and often the main program. But one thing that really slows me down inspirationally is the whole timeline linear project mode. I grew up musically with it from the beginning. But do you ever create all of your loops in say AUM, and the export to Cubasis for final sequencing? I’m really liking how many ways there are to approach music making on iOS/iPad OS that are not available on the desktop. I’m even of the opinion now that if someone is a producer and they are not using an iPad, I’m not sure I’d want to work with them. For mixing and mastering i get using the standard multitrack timeline structure, but for creation to only use that seems extremely limited at this point. Back to AUM. With AUv3 multi-routing and live mutating sequencing and control, it’s blowing up my head. Inspiration just pours out and out, and I don’t feel like I have to plan the movement in a timeline and be dragged down by all the structure. Again, I don’t think I can use it to finish a project, but for actual experimentation and sound creation, something like Cubasis feels like a brick wall in comparison! I know it’s not technically a “DAW” in the traditional sense, but I’d kinda hate for people to get in the trap of thinking to be “pro”, a DAW is the real thing and AUM isn’t. Also, I do really hope Auria gets a real iPad OS update with all the new bells and whistles. It still feels the most like Logic and Pro Tools. If Rim can get this majorly updated I could see it even possibly overtaking Cubasis as the DAW of choice for many. And that’s good. I don’t like the idea that there’s only 1 real full featured DAW. People get lazy then. Thanks Jakob! Always good to hear your perspective!
I also grew up with timeline editing windows and for me it’s hard to finish any; projects without it. I think I’m just very used to using them. It’s like second nature. But that doesn’t mean that I limit myself to those types of apps. . I do mostly use AUM as a live performance tool. But I also use it for experimentation. I’ve many times ended up with creative experimental sessions where I’ve recorded loops for use in Cubasis. I need those types of sessions too. Sessions where unexpected stuff happens. 👊🏼😉
@@JakobHaq Sounds right! Other than live i can't see how i'd finish something without a timeline. But for developing the parts i'm really liking how open and flexible AUM is. Multi-route plugins are really changing this game as well! It's become a lot more fun again!
Glad to know Nanostudio has support for AUv3. Does that include the multi i/o part? Also if it still doesn’t support audio tracks how did you get your voice in there? Sample?
Yeah I messed that one up. But I guess it says something about how god Slate and Obsidian really are. I’ve never even considered trying to bring other instruments into NS2. 😅 . No there’s no multi AUv3 support. I mean it can load the “EG Pulse multi out” version but there is no way to route Channels. You don’t have access to them. The audio is going to go out on the main channel basically. . I sampled my voice into the slate Drum-sampler instrument. 👍🏼
I choose the DAW (or lack thereof) based on the workflow of the project. Basically, DAW is the last thing I consider. I start with the idea, the sounds, the textures, etc, and use the DAW that gets in the way the least.
I’ll add (because Jakob hearted my comment) that my goal is to work in iPadOS for ease of sound creation and some editing that digital just makes easier, but (once it’s cleaned up and repaired) bounce everything down to a tascam tape portastudio. More and more I realize I’m an instrument kinda guy, not a computer kinda guy. The iPad so far (as much as I fucking hate Apple as a company and loathe giving them any money) is the device that does the most computing while also getting in my way the least. With some of the iOS-only things out there (like Switcher Studio- expensive but pretty dope) I’m even considering putting an Apple device in my pocket again so I can more easily collaborate with the music people I know who are all primarily in the Apple ecosystem. With Covid destroying many of their livelihoods, a helper with a subscription to Switcher and a room full of iOS devices can become an incredible production.
Awesome insight into your workflow and the differences in these apps. When I discovered BeatMaker 3 for free during the NAMM 2018 weekend I couldn’t say no. It has changed my life music wise. I used to make stuff in Gadget, TableTop and iMPC pro and then back on FL Studio and Acid (and evening Impulse Tracker back in the day), but BM3 was my ultimate workflow tool and has been the inspiration to pump out as many tracks as I have. Thanks for what you do and I hope you and yours are safe and healthy in these strange times. Cheers.
Yes you can, but it’s an extra purchase one has to make and it is not included in the base app. Also, the editing tools are extremely limited compared to audio editing tools in a conventional daw, which is why I prefer doing audio work with Cubasis.
@@JakobHaq that’s odd. Zurich appears to be part of the base app for me. I haven’t used it yet, so I am sure a cheapskate like me would not have bought it. (I am basically using Gadget as a live tool, sort of mini MainStage, so recording real sound has not been a need).
’ve actually talked about this on my live-streams but I’ve never been bold enough to make a video on why I don’t use Auria or Garageband. They’re both very competent apps, Auria in particular is really good. But both apps have this one issue ... I simply do not like their interface. For the past 5-6 years I’ve gone back to these apps several times, testing them out, doing work inside them and I never enjoy it. I’m always fighting their interface and so it just does not work out. To put it in simpler words, their interfaces do not “click” with me. I hope that answers your question.
Thank you for your response. My case is the other way around. I don’t feel comfortable with Cubasis , even though I have tried it several times. Another thing is that I can more or less predict or achieve the result that I expect with Auria Pro. The good thing is that there is an App for everybody. Congratulations for your musical dedication Jakob. Have a nice weekend.
My thoughts about DAWs: - Xequence2 + AUM This powerful sequencer can sequence any app and have Ableton Link support. And it even have this nice edit feature from Nanostudio, that Jakob liked so much. My favorite suite for professional MIDI-automatization. Killer-feature: multitrack MIDI tracks for one output source in Xequence, multioutputs in AUM. - GarageBand My always on-go app. I always start with it, then move to one of the DAW if needed. The app have so many nice little features, so I learn something new every time. Worth mention largest community, which made something amazing sometimes with it. Killer-feature: interactive drummers and loops. - BeatMaker 3: I think it's most flexible DAW on the iOS market. It just works! Killer-feature: amazing sampler/chopper. - Korg Gadget 2: Try it several times and I was struggle with wish to bought their synths on the sale week, but man, it 2020 and no AUM support? Especially for the price they want for DAW's extensions pack and synths? Don't want to play this games, so strong "no". Killer-feature: Korg's greed. - Auria Pro I know probably nothing about it, but it have own auditory. Listen that it very good for final mixing, so it goes with builtin plugins. I would like to listen Jakob thoughts, but he said that don't like it so much.
I used to love the iPad. Started out in 2014 on the ipad but now invested in a MacBook Pro and ableton. Much smoother and powerful but my roots are in Auria and Cubasis. Getting back to IPad is very creative and liberating even now. But I find myself in front of ableton 90 percent. Just on another level. More power to the loyal iPad musicians.
Me too.. I love the iOS world but getting a PC and Mixcraft 9....So much easier...I’ll use Studiomux in conjunction w the iPad for stuff like GeoShred, etc..If I had to choose one though it would be NS2
I use Cubasis exclusively. I like 3, but I'm missing the transparency of clips on the timeline, where you can see audio and MIDI underneath subsequent clips. I used that facility a lot for crossfading, but now I must use an extra track. Also BUG ALERT - audio fades on the clip on the time line are only registered if you play BEFORE the clip starts. C2 used to allow you to adjust clip volume on the fly. Again, this can be solved by using multiple tracks, but in a complex edit that's not really feasible. I don't use Gadget, because the simplistic looping nature of the thing just bugs me. Fine if you wanna make the same brainless EDM as everyone else, but I like my music to be more organic and less rigid. Too many multiples of 4!
Cubasis is the gold standard, all roads lead me to Cubasis, but, and I don't really know why, I love Korg Gadget Pro!! Other apps must be good or very good, and I'm not talking about BeatMaker or NanoStudio but about Auria Pro or IK's, but I consider them too expensive to NOT BE Cubasis 😆😆 However it is also true that Korg Gadget Pro with all its IAPs is the most expensive of all, but I already said it: I love the Korg Gadget Pro, and I love the Korg Module Pro, and the Korg M1, all my midi controllers are Korg, my arranger is a Korg, even my metronome and tuner are Korg!!Anyway...Great job!! Greetings from Chile Jakob!!
Another great video, Jakob. IMO Beat Maker 2 had a great MIDI editing interface. When 3 came out I was looking forward to using it...but it was removed. There are a few important modifications Intua could make to make the use of BM3 much more efficient but honestly, I get the feeling no one is really listening. In the sample editor you can not select different layers in the layer stack on the left and have them become active in the editor, you have to mute all but the one you need to hear-very unfinished. The stop button could be single press return to last position and double press return to start. The MIDI editing tools do not perform as expected, zoom behaves in an odd fashion, the finger tool places notes as does the two other note placement tools-the finger tool should be navigation with maybe a long press to change to selection box. Or the BEST option...bring back BM2 editing tools. Thanks for another great video!
Great video! It clearly shows the strengths and weaknesses of each app! I have been recording and mixing my music - mostly acoustic jazz - in Cubasis for some years now and what I really like about this app is the workflow and the possibilities for editing audio tracks. For me, everything is organized very well and works simply like I would expect it. However, when I started producing some electronic music a few months ago it didn't take more than one week until the absence of a sidechain function and a convenient sampler made me switch to Beatmaker 3 which I had already installed earlier. As I had never used it before, I struggled a lot in the beginning. It is so different from Cubasis! The sampler is just brilliant, though, and gradually, I started to understand how everything works. I realized that this app is exactly what I was looking for because not only the sampler is great but all the other options for working with midi tracks and effects, too. Therefore, what I really like about this video is the point that every of the four DAWs is your favorite one but for a specific purpose.
I find it that different apps/tools inspire me in different ways. Sometimes there is more than one option that is the right one for you. Also, It might not be affordable to use several DAW's if you primarily work using PC or Mac, but it is definitely affordable to do so if you are using iOS apps!
😂 MPC lovers don’t freak out. I’m not done yet 😄 . Fantastic vid Jacob. As an old analogue synth head dating back to 1981 I found this very informative even though I had Cubase v1.0 on Atari ST, used beatmaker & nanostudio about 8 years ago and still use Gadget iOS. Finding GarageBand iOS pretty useable these days. My fav DAW was FL Studio v2.0 with audio from 2011/12. (not ver 3.0, didn’t like interface or look) Wrote some powerful stuff on FL Studio v2.0. Still have it on an iPad2. Keep up the great work Jacob. Love your vids.
Thanks for this very, very transparant edition Jakob, we loved every minute! Thanks for showing the old machines, as we are from the Atari1040 generation 😉 Small note: at the end of the video, left side screen, check your Paypal address. For best results: it's without '.com' 👍 hope this helps.
Aw man, I’ve managed to mess up my paypal add again 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Im hopeless 😂😂😂
Brilliant brilliant brilliant video, appreciate you doing this, and it's excellent how you've approached it. Excellent perspective. Also, mad props on the mellow album. Loves it.
5:17 - I’m lying in bed watching this video, and it’s a very well thought out and put together video by the way, and I just HAD TO STOP and LET YOU KNOW how grateful I am that you took the care to make a decisive point in the video to put your advert break in. It’s SO IRRITATING when the adverts just suddenly come on and interrupt the content in the middle of a sentence, and since I watch a lot of technical content that’s even more frustrating, and since a lot of it is in the field of audio or video production, I feel like the content creators should know better and make more effort to make that less frustrating. So THANK YOU for doing that so well. Now I will continue the rest of the video 😊
Thank you! Btw I had to remove the add splash screens because I got a lot of complaints about that. But I still make sure to never cut of sentences with my ad breaks and I try to put them at places where there’s a natural pause. And I don’t litter my videos with adds either. Thank you for noticing! 🧡
Jakob Haq I definitely noticed and appreciated it. I’ve sine watched the rest of the video and wow! 😮 not only has it helped me to have a starting point to look at for making a transition from laptop based work to iPad os - but the way you told your story gave it another level of interest and the quality of the video overall is amazing. I have subscribed and will be watching more in future :) 👍🏼
Cubasis 🕺🏾 Gadget... 👌 Cubasis closest to traditional DAW & great hub for AU plug-ins * Gadget = Reason for IOS.... Propellerhead missed the boat and Korg grabbed the opportunity
I totally get where you are coming from Jacob. I have had this same conversation about macOS apps over the years. I started in windows back in 95, using a cracked version of acid Pro. Into thousand four, I got my first copy of Ableton's version 4. And 05, I picked up a copy of reason. In 2011, I started working with ProTools because I was working in audio post production. I continued to work with Ableton, and reason. This confused friends. But for me it made sense. Reason, it was great for putting together a quick pop and hip-hop tracks. Ableton, Is more of a creative pallet, for experimental sound design. ProTools, I was using strictly for sound to picture. No longer work with ProTools, because I got out of Hollywood, and when I look at a ProTools session I have anxiety attacks LOL, only half kidding.
NS2, if they had the audio track support. Their website says it is in their priority list for long time. Anyone knows if they are really working on that?
I have to give this a thumbs up for the "Mellow Album"... Really nice to hear your melody work. Would you do a similar video for AUM vs. Keystage vs. Camelot????????
Surprised you didn't mention Music Studio 1&2. One of the most solid iOS DAWs. I believe development stopped after the guy behind it was headhunted by Steinberg to do their iOS Cubasis version. Music Studio is still king when it comes to handling stubborn IAA type apps'n'stuff.
I‘m having huge problems with Cubasis 3. I posted in Steinberg‘s forum yesterday. Sometimes Midi notes aren‘t played, sometimes midi-instruments sound completely different from what they should sound and I have to restart the iPad .... Things like this have never happened in Cubasis 2.
Yeah I found similar bugs over here. But I’ve actually had weird MIDI/keyboard bugs happening in all versions of Cubasis. There was one bug that only happened with some AUv3s in Cubasis 2 where I got lag or no notes when playing the internal keyboard unless I had the App window up too. It disappears after a few updates.
hey there, i just found this video. Thanks for everything you do. I LOVE YOUR MELLOW ALBUM. i honestly haven't listened to anything else as I just love that album. do more mellow stuff! hehe. Take care and keep up the good work.
Man Auria Pro never gets no LoVe in the haq shack... I wonder what horror you’ve encountered??? I didn’t like it at first, so I switched & ONLY used Cubasis2 FOREVER, until a bunch of my projects somehow F*CKT uP BM3 is a great DAW as well, although, personally, not great workflow. Still phenomenal... NS3 wasn’t as great as I anticipated with a few missing features that force me to export into the big league daw’s. The CooLesT thing about NaNo is iPhone compatibility, which I believe Cubasis 3 is now equipped with, but I can’t afford to purchase it again, @ the moment. BEST DAW HANDS-DOWN IS OBVIOUSLY APPLES GARAGEBAND!?! Wonder if we will ever see an ABLETON / Logic / possibly a decent FL Studio Mobile version {[hahah yeah right]}
No horrors. I’ve actually talked about this on my live-streams but I’ve never been bold enough to make a video on why I don’t use Auria or Garageband. They’re both very competent apps, Auria in particular is really good. But both apps have this one issue ... I simply do not like their interface. For the past 5-6 years I’ve gone back to these apps several times, testing them out, doing work inside them and I never enjoy it. I’m always fighting their interface and so it just does not work out. To put it in simpler words, their interfaces do not “click” with me. I hope that answers your question. 😅
@Sascha No, I haven’t been able too since my broadband connection keeps dropping every time I try. I’m in contact with them to see what’s going on. I’ve had plans to stream every Sunday, but when I test it out, I get way to much lag after 10 minutes and then it drops out completely.
@@JakobHaq Agreed!?! The interface is incredibly critical to the individuals workflow. Each with PRO's & CON's. Except Garageband, which seems limited but decent as a FREE beginners app. The symphonic instruments sound great but I wouldn't advocate it to serious DAW users. Keep up the great work!?! I LOVE IT!? I'd really like to see more of your DIY projects. Or, more BEAUTIFUL landscape footage. Regardless, whatever you decide for future endeavors will surely be inspiring. Thats why your such an admirable creative!?! Thanks again
How do you connect audio out on the iPad to your mixer ? - have you ever come across a wireless (BT or Wi-Fi) audio interface ? - thanks for posting the vi
Hii there. I am a sax player and i am notist who plays only from notes. I need your help and do you know which android daw is score notation. Thanx. All the best
Once NanoStudio 2 has audio, it will be a different beast. So stable and the workflow is like water. BeatMaker 3 is super buggy but that sample editor 🤤👌🏻
Also, I hate to point it out dude but I really think you should re-edit the video and audio where possible to do justice to NS2’s auv3 support. It’s mentioned too many times. Keep up the good work brother.
My work is all live looping in AUM. If I simply wanted to record the output of the different AUM tracks into a DAW, to be able to edit it simply later, which DAW would be the best? (I was thinking Cubasis but I see it doesn’t have Ableton link, so I guess the song wouldn’t be cut up into measures automatically based on BPM, making it much more annoying to cut out parts precisely etc. So maybe Beatmaker 3?)
BeatMaker 3 is my weapon of choice (coming from almost 15 years of MPC use). Its been a bit unstable for me lately though 😒 . I think i wanna try the Cubasis 3 and BeatMaker 3 combo, to see how my work flow could change. Great video!
Is this due to a slower /older iPad or is the app the issue? Just curious. Tryna decide on wether or. Or to get rid of my mpc live for an iPad as one still needs a computer to make a complete beat to upload somewhere.
Another great video.... I have been using Cubasis 3 but have been on my laptop recording on Cuba’s 10.5 Pro..... I need to get out of my comfort zone and work on music on my new iPad Pro 2020! I will def check out Beatmaker 3!
Nu-Trix the Synth Guy deserves a lot more subscribers if you ask me. And that applies also to you, Jakob. I’m subscribed to many iOS dedicated channels and I always see a low number of subs. This must be more because the content you guys all provide is very, very good and useful.
Great video about how you use these DAWs. I own them all and more but end up in AUM because I have an irrational dislike of music apps that remind me too much of a spreadsheet. I probably enjoy creating musical Rube Goldberg machines with the apps I have. Not so interested in producing finished pieces like yourself and many other people.
Korg Gadget and Cubasis 2 are my tools of choiche. I use gadget for creating the track and use Cubasis for mixing/fine tuning. What I like about Gadget is the ease of use and large selection of different gadgets/synth sytles. A good feature of Cubasis is the Cubase export option which I use for archiving my projects.
🤯 WRONG! NanoStudio 2 CAN LOAD AUv3s. Somehow my brain has blocked that out. I made a whole video about it >>> ua-cam.com/video/zjUKK_lv5bk/v-deo.html - 🤦♂️ Assumptions is the mother of all f*ck ups!
I was about to comment on that 👍
S A N T A N U 👊🏼😅 I hate it when I make mistakes like this.
I was actually surprised, I never expected you will say that wrong, I thought they stopped auv3 support. So I went to check in my ipad if auv3 support is still there in NS2 😅
it's a shame, Jakob, it's a shame )))
Well I guess that says something about how much I like the Slate and Obsidian. I like em so much I never look for anything else to add. 😂😊
I listened to the whole presentation. I’m a guitarist using midi guitar 2 & a Roland Juno G & M Audio 25. I’m 64 and diving into this app world and loving it. It is a learning curve.
Man remember when you got your first guitar and ya learned 14 chords: 7majors and 7minors. And after that some one told you about some flats and sharps. And you thought 24 chords was plenty for now. I’m 64 too and I never thought I’d ever be writing. Then the 21st century happened !
I’m just a GarageBand iOS user this broke my mind and now I feel I should expand my iOS production research for iOS
I loaded Nano Studio 1 on my iPad 1st gen recently just to make it useful again. Not many apps work on it anymore (it runs iOS 5), but NS1 is more than enough to keep it around for some casual fun.
I love Nano Studio 2 also of course, but I primarily use Cubasis because it is the most generically flexible DAW for iOS. If NS2 had audio tracks, though, I would probably use it a lot more just because it is so well designed. And yes, the built in synth and drum machine in NS2 is so good, it is easy to forget it supports AUv3. Ha!
I like to write in Nanostudio and Gadget and then send audio and/or midi files over to Cubasis for final mixing and effects or to use different synths. Usually via AudioShare.
Jakob you got the best ios music videos. These videos are gonna blow up one day. You're ahead of the wave
I have been using Roland Zenbeats and prefer it over everything else. Needs some tweaks but has a lot going for it including audio tracks and AU automation.
If it had MIDI FX it would be a significant upgrade.
Yes. And Roland is providing the Unlocked version of Zenbeats for free!
I've heard that they will be integrating Zenbeats with some of their other hardware that utilize the Zen Core engine. I'd start using it if it worked well with my MC 707.
Hey, Jakob! First, the tracks: 1:50, 3:52...Awesome!! Which underscores the point you emphasize in the video, that you’re here to make music...and finding an environment with sounds and methods that inspire and work for you is as good as it gets. Still, it’s good to get away...you may even find a second home. I’m still blown away that we can carry this stuff in our (oversized) pockets.
She was right. Describing these from the perspective of what those mean to you musically was the best path.
I do own those four apps (well, I have Cubasis 2, not 3). Haven’t used them that much since adopting AUM.
NS1 was part of my entry into iOS musicking, at the time, along with ThumbJam. Did enjoy how it sounded but the workflow didn’t stick, for me. Even less so with BM1 and BM2. Bought NS2 and BM3, tried them a few times… I’d need to carefully follow a tutorial to get my head around them.
The second phase of my iOS musicking came through Korg Gadget, around the time iWavestation came out. That pseudo-DAW did allow me to discover quite a few things, musically. It was quite satisfying. And I occasionally use the plugins from the macOS version. The cool thing about Gadget itself, I find, is about the simplicity of putting things together. Like a simplified version of Live. It’s great that you can work on the same projects between the two platforms and the Ableton Live Project export is a good idea (which makes me wish Bitwig Studio were able to load those!). My main issue really is the lack of AUv3 support. That and the lack of MPE support.
Which brings me back to Cubasis 2. Its MPE support is fine, so I occasionally do record things in there. I wouldn’t do much editing. It’s really about putting things together. Thing is, though, I achieve most of the same thing in a “DAWfree mode” using AUM (or apeMatrix or AB3). I’ll record little MIDI snippets in Photon or use some AU MIDI plugins (like Rozeta Bassline, Riffer, or Autony) to generate some patterns. Or I’ll play a softsynth using my windcontroller. Or I’ll noodle for a while with a ROLI Lightpad M Block. Playing with a whole bunch of AUv3 plugins is so rewarding and inspiring and fun and easy…
My actual vote would be: none of these. The one I’ve used the most is Cubasis 2.
The first two songs sounded great. I loved the dreamy sound. Great video 👍👍
I never used a pc for music, so never cubase, nor anything else, so cubasis is alien to me 🤷♂️. Ipad fave ended up being nanostudio, after passing thru audiobus and finding 'digital glue' isn't necessarily my thing.
Great video Jakob!
I had already commented...an emotional outburst towards Cubasis 3, but like you (and perhaps because of you), I own all 4 of these DAWS...and some other less DAW type DAWS lol.
I like you, realize where each one fits with regard to my music production.
I use Cubasis the most because that’s my “final production app” where the finished product of whatever song I’ve created will end up to be mastered. Additionally, this applies to my DAWless/Standalone equipment like the OP-1, OP-Z etc.
I use Gadget predominantly via iOS (even though I have the desktop version - I’ll use my iPad first).
I have fallen out of NanoStudio and honestly feel BM3 has been lying comatose for a while now but whenever I want to sample or make a trap style beat I’ll generally start there.
Bought your ambient album recently, and I really loved it man.
Aw, thank you so much!
Very informative and explained easily to understand. I think GarageBand is on the list for me as well. Slightly disappointed with Cubasis guys in not asking for a slightly cheaper upgrade price for v3 from v2.
Fantastic video. I’m just like you, the environment affects the music so much and I can’t really stick with one DAW. I am trying to decide whether or not to buy Cubasis - I have the other 3 and find myself using NS2 the most. Thanks for the vid brother
PS - I love how you say Jakob!
So did you end up buying it? Are you happy with what you make or are you facing issues?
Paul Prayton I did. It’s solid. I still use NS2 more but cubasis is very solid and reliable, I recommend it
@@obowurx6625 I'm going to check it out, thanks for the tip ;)
Paul Prayton yeah buddy, you’ll dig it
Great video !! Loved it. I hate how Cubasis 3 was launched unfinished. I lost hours of work. Decided not to use it any more (lost trust completely) and went for DAW on my Mac + gadget iOS combo with AUM.
I wish there was an iOS version of Ableton. I don’t get along with purely linear DAWs. Beatmaker is the closest to that workflow, but it’s far too unstable 🙄 Keeps crashing and then I have to redo everything from the last save point. With the last track I made in Beatmaker I had 3 crashes in an hour and got fed up, so I exported what I had done so far and finished it in Ableton. Infuriating! AUM is cool, but like you said elsewhere, it’s not a proper DAW, so complex arrangements get difficult too.
Feature matrix is much appreciated
I want the song at 1:50! Is it available anywhere? Please answer, this is sooo good.
I tried all of these apps. None of them sticks to me so far, except gadget maybe somewhat. But usually I just load AUM and have my Deluge sequence the iPad. Because all of them have grids in the end and the combination of grids and touch screens is just wrong, even the nice grid of NanoStudio still feels wrong to me. On the Deluge the grids consist of actual buttons that you can feel, and you hardly ever click the wrong one. So AUM is my way, but recently i started using gadgets from the Deluge as well, and that is nice too because the gadgets have such unique and playful characters.
Awesome as always! I have Cubasis 2 , Gadget 2 ,FL Studio and access to Garage Band ect ... Atm Ive only installed the first 2 mentioned because im concerned about memory and lag from lack of . Im using ipad 32gb 6 gen . Should i worry about that ? How do you manage your data ? Also do you use autotune ? Thank you and much respect.
Insightful video. Lots of useful advice. Thanks!
The lack of time signature/tempo change in Cubasis I found limiting, the lack of audio in NS2 is frustrating, the gadgets in Korg Gadget are stripped down versions of the synths models that I bought I can't get the same patches in Gadget that are in the stand alone version this was very disappointing to discover afterwards. I have the same feeling towards beatmaker as you did about the hardware, I don't get the workflow and it is not musical to me. I also got Auria Pro which has audio tracks, and tempo/time signature change but the sequencing is clunky
I use all of these and a few of others besides. I cannot justify it. Pointing out the storage space, money, and discontinuity issues with my way of doing things makes no impression on me. I'm happy to call it an illness, but it is not that so much as an appreciation of difference, of alternate takes on the creative process. Each brings something personally worthwhile or it sinks into disuse and sometimes gets unloaded.
I can say my view of the strengths of these apps overlaps with yours (though maybe we differ on connection and format options in NS . . .), even if my associations of the apps with given musical styles branch off. You highlight some of the things I would about why these apps deserve attention.
I should mention that I am annoyed about Steinberg's Cubasis 3 release and their choice to blame Apple for declining to offer even minimally discounted upgrade pricing to existing users. That and the widely discussed plague of bugs that infested the new app (QA? - that's what paying customers are for, silly human).
Also, BM has been in a reduced rotation here because of its old file-management issues. The whole Apple mobile platform sucks for file management, yet somehow BM is worse still, with duplication and eventual confusion baked into way BM saves and groups things. Whenever I think of going into BM, all I have to do to dissuade myself is to remember saving or reusing projects or parts of projects in the app. That will usually put me off my pad for at least an hour.
Probably it is just me. Usually it is just me, whatever the subject. That's okay.
Thanks for all this stuff, Jakob.
Hey HAQ, i am pretty sure you can load au3 plugins in NS2
Yup, big brain fart on my part. I’ve added a sticky comment with a correction in it. 🤦♂️
Dude, thanks for this. Came at the perfect time.
Questions:
1. Do you export the MIDI, or just the audio for these apps?
2. Do you make use of Ableton as well? Nutrix made a video about how he uses Gadget and Auria.
3. Cubasis 2 or 3?
4. Would you consider AUM as another component? Henny made a video and mentioned AUM and Cubasis, along with Garageband.
1. Only Audio (I’ve exported MIDI from Cubasis to use in other apps though).
2. I Haven’t used desktop or laptop computers for music production since switched to iOS 6-7 years ago.
3. As for now Cubasis 2 but only for the reasons I mentioned at: 7:41. Otherwise I’d say 3.
4. I only use AUM as a Live performance and Jamming platform. I’d rather not do any other types of intricate setups with other apps.
Hope this answers your questions! 👍🏼
@@JakobHaq Perfect. Thanks again for the encouragement to make my UA-cam channel at the Audiobus 3 forum.
Here's hoping I can make something awesome before the end of the year.
# SEONN Have fun! 👊🏼
Yes thanks and I recommend TeaTube app free on App Store.
You just sold me on nanostudio, tell Kai it’s all good now.
Thank you, and Kai, nice platform.
Kai Aras is actually the developer of Shockwave and VOLT synth. He is one of the devs I talk to a lot. Matt Borstel ( 3:00 ) is the developer of NanoStudio 2. 👍🏼 I should probably have written that out under Kais name instead of just app developer.
@@JakobHaq haha - my bad, I knew that too. 😬
First, my comments were just about that I use the same ones, when I go mobile, but...Stop..
YOU are the guy with the mellow album?
Respect, one of the best albums in the genre I am actually listening to. And, being Chillwalker and publishing my Tracks since 2002...there aren't a lot of them. Face it...the most music from the genre is boring!
So: Hughe thumbs up from my side of the screen!
Aw thank you so much. Means a lot to me that you like my mellow album. Btw there is a short documentary about the album if you haven’t seen it. Link: ua-cam.com/video/xPE7bUk5WRw/v-deo.html
I’ll make sure to check your your music too. 😊
@@JakobHaq I will watch it now!!
Hello Jakob,
Thanks a lot for this video giving your opinion and sincerity on the DAWs. I would be interested to know what features are missing in the Audio Track editing tool (sampler) of Beatmaker 3 according to you?
If you could provide us with an exhaustive list would be great.
Many thanks for your great reliable work as usual. 💯👌🏼✅😎👏
I can totally see Cubasis (or even Auria) as a final destination for every project, and often the main program. But one thing that really slows me down inspirationally is the whole timeline linear project mode. I grew up musically with it from the beginning. But do you ever create all of your loops in say AUM, and the export to Cubasis for final sequencing? I’m really liking how many ways there are to approach music making on iOS/iPad OS that are not available on the desktop. I’m even of the opinion now that if someone is a producer and they are not using an iPad, I’m not sure I’d want to work with them. For mixing and mastering i get using the standard multitrack timeline structure, but for creation to only use that seems extremely limited at this point.
Back to AUM. With AUv3 multi-routing and live mutating sequencing and control, it’s blowing up my head. Inspiration just pours out and out, and I don’t feel like I have to plan the movement in a timeline and be dragged down by all the structure. Again, I don’t think I can use it to finish a project, but for actual experimentation and sound creation, something like Cubasis feels like a brick wall in comparison! I know it’s not technically a “DAW” in the traditional sense, but I’d kinda hate for people to get in the trap of thinking to be “pro”, a DAW is the real thing and AUM isn’t.
Also, I do really hope Auria gets a real iPad OS update with all the new bells and whistles. It still feels the most like Logic and Pro Tools. If Rim can get this majorly updated I could see it even possibly overtaking Cubasis as the DAW of choice for many. And that’s good. I don’t like the idea that there’s only 1 real full featured DAW. People get lazy then.
Thanks Jakob! Always good to hear your perspective!
I also grew up with timeline editing windows and for me it’s hard to finish any; projects without it. I think I’m just very used to using them. It’s like second nature. But that doesn’t mean that I limit myself to those types of apps.
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I do mostly use AUM as a live performance tool. But I also use it for experimentation. I’ve many times ended up with creative experimental sessions where I’ve recorded loops for use in Cubasis. I need those types of sessions too. Sessions where unexpected stuff happens. 👊🏼😉
@@JakobHaq Sounds right! Other than live i can't see how i'd finish something without a timeline. But for developing the parts i'm really liking how open and flexible AUM is. Multi-route plugins are really changing this game as well! It's become a lot more fun again!
Do you have a course on iOS music production? Thanks.
Hey Jakop 👋
What you think about the App Suggester on BM3 and how you trigger the midi files? Thank you 🙏
Glad to know Nanostudio has support for AUv3. Does that include the multi i/o part? Also if it still doesn’t support audio tracks how did you get your voice in there? Sample?
Yeah I messed that one up. But I guess it says something about how god Slate and Obsidian really are. I’ve never even considered trying to bring other instruments into NS2. 😅
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No there’s no multi AUv3 support. I mean it can load the “EG Pulse multi out” version but there is no way to route Channels. You don’t have access to them. The audio is going to go out on the main channel basically.
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I sampled my voice into the slate Drum-sampler instrument. 👍🏼
So far I love the music I hear here
I love beatmaker 2 and 3
Honestöy i want this on linux
I would pay the double price for an app on the pc
Cubasis 3 is frustratingly buggy. I love the interface so much, but the constant bugs make me furious.
enjoying your prospective
I choose the DAW (or lack thereof) based on the workflow of the project. Basically, DAW is the last thing I consider. I start with the idea, the sounds, the textures, etc, and use the DAW that gets in the way the least.
I’ll add (because Jakob hearted my comment) that my goal is to work in iPadOS for ease of sound creation and some editing that digital just makes easier, but (once it’s cleaned up and repaired) bounce everything down to a tascam tape portastudio. More and more I realize I’m an instrument kinda guy, not a computer kinda guy. The iPad so far (as much as I fucking hate Apple as a company and loathe giving them any money) is the device that does the most computing while also getting in my way the least.
With some of the iOS-only things out there (like Switcher Studio- expensive but pretty dope) I’m even considering putting an Apple device in my pocket again so I can more easily collaborate with the music people I know who are all primarily in the Apple ecosystem. With Covid destroying many of their livelihoods, a helper with a subscription to Switcher and a room full of iOS devices can become an incredible production.
I’ll also add that when I say Jakob, I say it correctly (“Yah” vs “Jay”). 🥰
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We might not like Apple ... but Apple sure loves our money! 😂 ua-cam.com/video/1Sg-GUetIns/v-deo.html
Jakob Haq the money is secondary, they just love making CLAGNUTS
FL Studio mobile & Caustic for android one love)
Awesome insight into your workflow and the differences in these apps. When I discovered BeatMaker 3 for free during the NAMM 2018 weekend I couldn’t say no. It has changed my life music wise. I used to make stuff in Gadget, TableTop and iMPC pro and then back on FL Studio and Acid (and evening Impulse Tracker back in the day), but BM3 was my ultimate workflow tool and has been the inspiration to pump out as many tracks as I have. Thanks for what you do and I hope you and yours are safe and healthy in these strange times. Cheers.
I just downloaded BeatMaker 2 o paid version just to find their store is down so don’t buy they said there system to store is down
Nice one
Nice!
I thought you can record vocals with Korg Zurich.
Yes you can, but it’s an extra purchase one has to make and it is not included in the base app. Also, the editing tools are extremely limited compared to audio editing tools in a conventional daw, which is why I prefer doing audio work with Cubasis.
@@JakobHaq
Thanks
@@JakobHaq that’s odd. Zurich appears to be part of the base app for me. I haven’t used it yet, so I am sure a cheapskate like me would not have bought it. (I am basically using Gadget as a live tool, sort of mini MainStage, so recording real sound has not been a need).
What about Andriod apps?
Hi Jakob, have you tried Auria?
’ve actually talked about this on my live-streams but I’ve never been bold enough to make a video on why I don’t use Auria or Garageband. They’re both very competent apps, Auria in particular is really good. But both apps have this one issue ... I simply do not like their interface. For the past 5-6 years I’ve gone back to these apps several times, testing them out, doing work inside them and I never enjoy it. I’m always fighting their interface and so it just does not work out. To put it in simpler words, their interfaces do not “click” with me. I hope that answers your question.
Thank you for your response. My case is the other way around. I don’t feel comfortable with Cubasis , even though I have tried it several times. Another thing is that I can more or less predict or achieve the result that I expect with Auria Pro. The good thing is that there is an App for everybody. Congratulations for your musical dedication Jakob. Have a nice weekend.
My thoughts about DAWs:
- Xequence2 + AUM
This powerful sequencer can sequence any app and have Ableton Link support. And it even have this nice edit feature from Nanostudio, that Jakob liked so much. My favorite suite for professional MIDI-automatization.
Killer-feature: multitrack MIDI tracks for one output source in Xequence, multioutputs in AUM.
- GarageBand
My always on-go app. I always start with it, then move to one of the DAW if needed. The app have so many nice little features, so I learn something new every time. Worth mention largest community, which made something amazing sometimes with it.
Killer-feature: interactive drummers and loops.
- BeatMaker 3:
I think it's most flexible DAW on the iOS market. It just works!
Killer-feature: amazing sampler/chopper.
- Korg Gadget 2:
Try it several times and I was struggle with wish to bought their synths on the sale week, but man, it 2020 and no AUM support? Especially for the price they want for DAW's extensions pack and synths? Don't want to play this games, so strong "no".
Killer-feature: Korg's greed.
- Auria Pro
I know probably nothing about it, but it have own auditory. Listen that it very good for final mixing, so it goes with builtin plugins. I would like to listen Jakob thoughts, but he said that don't like it so much.
Can cubasis 3 take izotope plugins?
Izotope have not made any plugins for iOS yet. They’ve only made one app for iOS, a freemium (IAP for pro version) 4-track recorder named “Spire”.
Beatmaker 3 and GarageBand my favorite forever 😎🔥
This man just said he is in his 40's??? I didn't expect that.
I used to love the iPad. Started out in 2014 on the ipad but now invested in a MacBook Pro and ableton. Much smoother and powerful but my roots are in Auria and Cubasis. Getting back to IPad is very creative and liberating even now. But I find myself in front of ableton 90 percent. Just on another level. More power to the loyal iPad musicians.
Me too.. I love the iOS world but getting a PC and Mixcraft 9....So much easier...I’ll use Studiomux in conjunction w the iPad for stuff like GeoShred, etc..If I had to choose one though it would be NS2
I use Cubasis exclusively. I like 3, but I'm missing the transparency of clips on the timeline, where you can see audio and MIDI underneath subsequent clips. I used that facility a lot for crossfading, but now I must use an extra track. Also BUG ALERT - audio fades on the clip on the time line are only registered if you play BEFORE the clip starts. C2 used to allow you to adjust clip volume on the fly. Again, this can be solved by using multiple tracks, but in a complex edit that's not really feasible.
I don't use Gadget, because the simplistic looping nature of the thing just bugs me. Fine if you wanna make the same brainless EDM as everyone else, but I like my music to be more organic and less rigid. Too many multiples of 4!
Cubasis is the gold standard, all roads lead me to Cubasis, but, and I don't really know why, I love Korg Gadget Pro!! Other apps must be good or very good, and I'm not talking about BeatMaker or NanoStudio but about Auria Pro or IK's, but I consider them too expensive to NOT BE Cubasis 😆😆
However it is also true that Korg Gadget Pro with all its IAPs is the most expensive of all, but I already said it: I love the Korg Gadget Pro, and I love the Korg Module Pro, and the Korg M1, all my midi controllers are Korg, my arranger is a Korg, even my metronome and tuner are Korg!!Anyway...Great job!! Greetings from Chile Jakob!!
You need Four DAWS,
Because As one DAW closes, many more will open... lol 😂
What is that lovely vocoder you used at the beginning (around 2m from the beginning) ? Is it an iOS app?
it’s iVoxel by VirSyn. I use it for all my vocoder tracks since 5 years back. It’s an older app and it only supports IAA but it’s good!
@@JakobHaq wher can I listen to that song?
Another great video, Jakob. IMO Beat Maker 2 had a great MIDI editing interface. When 3 came out I was looking forward to using it...but it was removed. There are a few important modifications Intua could make to make the use of BM3 much more efficient but honestly, I get the feeling no one is really listening. In the sample editor you can not select different layers in the layer stack on the left and have them become active in the editor, you have to mute all but the one you need to hear-very unfinished. The stop button could be single press return to last position and double press return to start. The MIDI editing tools do not perform as expected, zoom behaves in an odd fashion, the finger tool places notes as does the two other note placement tools-the finger tool should be navigation with maybe a long press to change to selection box. Or the BEST option...bring back BM2 editing tools. Thanks for another great video!
KORG gadget is the one I use. I even have it for the Nintendo Switch
Same here
Great video! It clearly shows the strengths and weaknesses of each app!
I have been recording and mixing my music - mostly acoustic jazz - in Cubasis for some years now and what I really like about this app is the workflow and the possibilities for editing audio tracks. For me, everything is organized very well and works simply like I would expect it. However, when I started producing some electronic music a few months ago it didn't take more than one week until the absence of a sidechain function and a convenient sampler made me switch to Beatmaker 3 which I had already installed earlier. As I had never used it before, I struggled a lot in the beginning. It is so different from Cubasis! The sampler is just brilliant, though, and gradually, I started to understand how everything works. I realized that this app is exactly what I was looking for because not only the sampler is great but all the other options for working with midi tracks and effects, too.
Therefore, what I really like about this video is the point that every of the four DAWs is your favorite one but for a specific purpose.
I find it that different apps/tools inspire me in different ways. Sometimes there is more than one option that is the right one for you. Also, It might not be affordable to use several DAW's if you primarily work using PC or Mac, but it is definitely affordable to do so if you are using iOS apps!
😂 MPC lovers don’t freak out. I’m not done yet 😄 . Fantastic vid Jacob. As an old analogue synth head dating back to 1981 I found this very informative even though I had Cubase v1.0 on Atari ST, used beatmaker & nanostudio about 8 years ago and still use Gadget iOS. Finding GarageBand iOS pretty useable these days. My fav DAW was FL Studio v2.0 with audio from 2011/12. (not ver 3.0, didn’t like interface or look) Wrote some powerful stuff on FL Studio v2.0. Still have it on an iPad2. Keep up the great work Jacob. Love your vids.
Thanks for this very, very transparant edition Jakob, we loved every minute! Thanks for showing the old machines, as we are from the Atari1040 generation 😉
Small note: at the end of the video, left side screen, check your Paypal address. For best results: it's without '.com' 👍 hope this helps.
Aw man, I’ve managed to mess up my paypal add again 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Im hopeless 😂😂😂
Hey Atari 520ST man here! Built in MIDI and a sampling cartridge got me into music way back when ...
Brilliant brilliant brilliant video, appreciate you doing this, and it's excellent how you've approached it. Excellent perspective. Also, mad props on the mellow album. Loves it.
Aw, thank you so much! 🙏🏼
Stepping back from your sound system and putting the Mellow album on, love that thing. Stay well!
5:17 - I’m lying in bed watching this video, and it’s a very well thought out and put together video by the way, and I just HAD TO STOP and LET YOU KNOW how grateful I am that you took the care to make a decisive point in the video to put your advert break in. It’s SO IRRITATING when the adverts just suddenly come on and interrupt the content in the middle of a sentence, and since I watch a lot of technical content that’s even more frustrating, and since a lot of it is in the field of audio or video production, I feel like the content creators should know better and make more effort to make that less frustrating.
So THANK YOU for doing that so well.
Now I will continue the rest of the video 😊
Thank you! Btw I had to remove the add splash screens because I got a lot of complaints about that. But I still make sure to never cut of sentences with my ad breaks and I try to put them at places where there’s a natural pause. And I don’t litter my videos with adds either. Thank you for noticing! 🧡
Jakob Haq I definitely noticed and appreciated it. I’ve sine watched the rest of the video and wow! 😮 not only has it helped me to have a starting point to look at for making a transition from laptop based work to iPad os - but the way you told your story gave it another level of interest and the quality of the video overall is amazing. I have subscribed and will be watching more in future :) 👍🏼
Cubasis 🕺🏾 Gadget... 👌 Cubasis closest to traditional DAW & great hub for AU plug-ins * Gadget = Reason for IOS.... Propellerhead missed the boat and Korg grabbed the opportunity
I totally get where you are coming from Jacob. I have had this same conversation about macOS apps over the years. I started in windows back in 95, using a cracked version of acid Pro. Into thousand four, I got my first copy of Ableton's version 4. And 05, I picked up a copy of reason. In 2011, I started working with ProTools because I was working in audio post production. I continued to work with Ableton, and reason. This confused friends. But for me it made sense. Reason, it was great for putting together a quick pop and hip-hop tracks. Ableton, Is more of a creative pallet, for experimental sound design. ProTools, I was using strictly for sound to picture. No longer work with ProTools, because I got out of Hollywood, and when I look at a ProTools session I have anxiety attacks LOL, only half kidding.
NS2, if they had the audio track support. Their website says it is in their priority list for long time. Anyone knows if they are really working on that?
S A N T A N U Legend has it. Apparently he doesn’t like putting stuff out unless it’s PERFECT (listening Steinberg?)
Great video Jacob,funny I use they same four.They are all great in there own way.Cubasis is my go to convention DAW.I did not upgrade to 3 yet.
I have to give this a thumbs up for the "Mellow Album"...
Really nice to hear your melody work.
Would you do a similar video for AUM vs. Keystage vs. Camelot????????
Why 4 DAWs? Because no one of them is really good.....
Thru words!
That also applies for desktop DAWs if you ask me.
I love BeatMaker 3 but not being able to use my Bluetooth headphones kills it for me :(
Surprised you didn't mention Music Studio 1&2. One of the most solid iOS DAWs. I believe development stopped after the guy behind it was headhunted by Steinberg to do their iOS Cubasis version. Music Studio is still king when it comes to handling stubborn IAA type apps'n'stuff.
I‘m having huge problems with Cubasis 3. I posted in Steinberg‘s forum yesterday. Sometimes Midi notes aren‘t played, sometimes midi-instruments sound completely different from what they should sound and I have to restart the iPad .... Things like this have never happened in Cubasis 2.
Yeah I found similar bugs over here. But I’ve actually had weird MIDI/keyboard bugs happening in all versions of Cubasis. There was one bug that only happened with some AUv3s in Cubasis 2 where I got lag or no notes when playing the internal keyboard unless I had the App window up too. It disappears after a few updates.
hey there, i just found this video. Thanks for everything you do. I LOVE YOUR MELLOW ALBUM. i honestly haven't listened to anything else as I just love that album. do more mellow stuff! hehe. Take care and keep up the good work.
Aaaaw, thank you for telling. That makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. 🥰🥰
Man Auria Pro never gets no LoVe in the haq shack...
I wonder what horror you’ve encountered???
I didn’t like it at first, so I switched & ONLY used
Cubasis2 FOREVER, until a bunch of my projects somehow F*CKT uP
BM3 is a great DAW as well, although, personally, not great workflow. Still phenomenal...
NS3 wasn’t as great as I anticipated with a few missing features that force me to export into the big league daw’s.
The CooLesT thing about NaNo is iPhone compatibility, which I believe Cubasis 3 is now equipped with,
but I can’t afford to purchase it again, @ the moment.
BEST DAW HANDS-DOWN IS OBVIOUSLY APPLES GARAGEBAND!?!
Wonder if we will ever see an ABLETON / Logic /
possibly a decent FL Studio Mobile version {[hahah yeah right]}
No horrors. I’ve actually talked about this on my live-streams but I’ve never been bold enough to make a video on why I don’t use Auria or Garageband. They’re both very competent apps, Auria in particular is really good. But both apps have this one issue ... I simply do not like their interface. For the past 5-6 years I’ve gone back to these apps several times, testing them out, doing work inside them and I never enjoy it. I’m always fighting their interface and so it just does not work out. To put it in simpler words, their interfaces do not “click” with me. I hope that answers your question. 😅
Jakob Haq hey🙏🏽did you run more than one livestream by now??😳
@Sascha No, I haven’t been able too since my broadband connection keeps dropping every time I try. I’m in contact with them to see what’s going on. I’ve had plans to stream every Sunday, but when I test it out, I get way to much lag after 10 minutes and then it drops out completely.
@@JakobHaq Agreed!?! The interface is incredibly critical to the individuals workflow. Each with PRO's & CON's.
Except Garageband, which seems limited but decent as a FREE beginners app. The symphonic instruments sound great but I wouldn't advocate it to serious DAW users.
Keep up the great work!?! I LOVE IT!?
I'd really like to see more of your DIY projects. Or, more BEAUTIFUL landscape footage. Regardless, whatever you decide for future endeavors will surely be inspiring. Thats why your such an admirable creative!?!
Thanks again
How do you connect audio out on the iPad to your mixer ? - have you ever come across a wireless (BT or Wi-Fi) audio interface ? - thanks for posting the vi
Hii there. I am a sax player and i am notist who plays only from notes. I need your help and do you know which android daw is score notation. Thanx. All the best
OMG that song at 1:50! Where can I hear more?
I also wanna hear this
I do use Korg Gadget in AUM-piece of cake!
Once NanoStudio 2 has audio, it will be a different beast. So stable and the workflow is like water. BeatMaker 3 is super buggy but that sample editor 🤤👌🏻
Also, I hate to point it out dude but I really think you should re-edit the video and audio where possible to do justice to NS2’s auv3 support. It’s mentioned too many times. Keep up the good work brother.
Always loved Gadget, horrible for working with audio though.
Yeah, it leaves a lot to be desired ... Zürich I mean. But everything else it does is awesome!
Hahah I m exaclty the same
What? You're 40???
My work is all live looping in AUM. If I simply wanted to record the output of the different AUM tracks into a DAW, to be able to edit it simply later, which DAW would be the best? (I was thinking Cubasis but I see it doesn’t have Ableton link, so I guess the song wouldn’t be cut up into measures automatically based on BPM, making it much more annoying to cut out parts precisely etc. So maybe Beatmaker 3?)
Thanks JaKob for this again great review!
How do you come with this amazing vocoder @ 1:50?!
I’m using iVoxel by VirSyn. It’s IAA only though. It’s the same vocoder app that I’m using for this track too: ua-cam.com/video/K4Xmwyhd31g/v-deo.html
Woow that Song 2:15 …sooo coool can you upload it anywhere pls?
Very helpful to a new starter to iOS apps. Thanks!
As a beginner what is it you wish you did better on iOS?
BeatMaker 3 is my weapon of choice (coming from almost 15 years of MPC use). Its been a bit unstable for me lately though 😒 .
I think i wanna try the Cubasis 3 and BeatMaker 3 combo, to see how my work flow could change. Great video!
Pablo Station , understandable , its a very powerful tool.
Is this due to a slower /older iPad or is the app the issue? Just curious. Tryna decide on wether or. Or to get rid of my mpc live for an iPad as one still needs a computer to make a complete beat to upload somewhere.
Another great video.... I have been using Cubasis 3 but have been on my laptop recording on Cuba’s 10.5 Pro..... I need to get out of my comfort zone and work on music on my new iPad Pro 2020! I will def check out Beatmaker 3!
Thanks so much for the shout-out brusch!! But I’m so amateurish compared to you it’s not even funny. 😜😜😜
Jesper Jones Seriously man, y music is amazingly good! 💚💛❤️
Yeah Jesper Jones - you make great music - kinda like a cross between future bass and funk - unique. I checked you out because of this video.
Where can I find “Step Back This My Sound System” !?!? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s only available here on UA-cam. That clip came from this video: ua-cam.com/video/VwOqRdJIVRY/v-deo.html
Thanks! That’s my favorite tune right now!
Nu-Trix the Synth Guy deserves a lot more subscribers if you ask me. And that applies also to you, Jakob. I’m subscribed to many iOS dedicated channels and I always see a low number of subs. This must be more because the content you guys all provide is very, very good and useful.
Great video about how you use these DAWs. I own them all and more but end up in AUM because I have an irrational dislike of music apps that remind me too much of a spreadsheet. I probably enjoy creating musical Rube Goldberg machines with the apps I have. Not so interested in producing finished pieces like yourself and many other people.
what do you recommend for hip hop and trap beats?
If you’re going to work with Beatmaking and samples then you should have a look at Koala sampler or Loopy pro.
I have an use all 4 of these too! Well not so much cubasis. Great video!
BeatMaker3 all de way
Why not FL Mobile ???
Korg Gadget and Cubasis 2 are my tools of choiche. I use gadget for creating the track and use Cubasis for mixing/fine tuning. What I like about Gadget is the ease of use and large selection of different gadgets/synth sytles. A good feature of Cubasis is the Cubase export option which I use for archiving my projects.
Great video.