Thank you Brandon for the opportunity to write and sing for this! I fulfilled incredibly specific dream of writing a multi-genre Broadway number featuring a crossover between two meta characters hahahaha Lyrics for anyone who's interested! Verse A Monika: Welcome to the clubroom My humble little abode Sorry for the mess, I’ve been Here since long ago I’m sure we’ll get along fine I feel it in my code You’re stuck with little old me But at least you’re not alone Verse B Flowey: I’m a rebel I’m a monster Lying in wait to Drag you under I’m so sick of this pretending None of us have happy endings Feel the chills Cuz neither of us have a choice You see it’s Kill or killed So which one will it be? 4 Beat Pause MONIKA: Oh come now, that’s no way to look at things! This is gonna be fun! Look, I’ll show you! Chorus Both: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same Refrain Flowey: YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE Verse C Flowey: I’ve found a place to lie Experienced as much as the eye could see Monika: And I found my paradise Just you and me for all eternity Verse B Flowey: I’m a rebel I’m a monster Lying in wait to Drag you under What’s the point in acting friendly I would kill you if you let me All the fools Keep running off to save their souls But they can’t Break the rules There’s nowhere else to go Prechorus Monika: Oh, have no fear I am right beside you Forevermore Just let me guide you Chorus Both: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same Refrain FLOWEY: YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE Bridge Monika: I’m coming back for you Flowey: THE ACTIONS EACH REPEAT Monika: I’m coming back for you Flowey: DETERMINATION BLEEDS Monika: I’m coming back for you Flowey: SEE WHAT’S BECOME OF ME Monika: If it’s the last thing that I do Intro repeat: Flowey: Don’t tell me you want to actually build something here. Being happy? I haven’t felt anything for a LONG TIME. What makes you think you can change that for either of us? Dramatic bridge: Monika: Just for an instant Look at my vision We’ll make a world with Nothing that we can’t do Flowey: Who are you kidding? There’s nothing left here It’s just a wasteland We’re stuck in me and you Monika: What are you saying? We have our freedom This is a game where We’re player one and two Flowey: Now that I think about it I see maybe you might have a point We can build a castle this time no one’s here to break our toys One day we can find a way to get out of here and rejoice Monika: It might not be like it was Flowey: But at least I have a choice! Half Verse C Monika: We’ll make a paradise Just you and me for all of eternity Chorus Both: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same Living life on repeat Wouldn’t be so bad Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty Guess it’s time to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same way *Flowey laughs*
Yes, but the piano is still there, as the game is shown is when monika is present still in control, so its probably another hint, and the piano is the last one remaining at the end, even beyond flowey's laughs, its a theory
@@markov3617 flowey would Beat Monika Pretty sure. Has far Higher stats, Speeds etc has also control over His Game and story and a far larger Game than Ddlc His reset stuff makes flowey hard to kill he's smarter and Monika would be more naive. And Pretty sure flowey would have the way to kill Monika and is fast to avoid His files deleted
I like how you can interpret the ending in two ways; 1. Flowey tricks Monika into thinking that he’s changed so that he can get his kill 2. Monika alters Flowey’s character file to make him more kind so that she has a friend.
*Fight starts with flowey entering the literature club* Monika: huh? a talking flower? Flowey: howdy i'm flowey the flower! Monika: you don't belong here... Flowey: of course not, me and you monika are alike we both seek to change our fate, but in the end we're both souless slaves to fate Monika: that's not true, i'm truly in control nobody can decide my fate Flowey: oh you really think YOU'RE the one in control? Monika: my love knows no bounds, i'll help you understand Flowey: "Love"? ha! i can't feel ANYTHING! i'll show you the true cruelty of reality! *FIGHT!*
*Flowey the flower uses friendliest pilets at Monika but she manages to dodge them all* Monika:*Tries to throw a knife at flowey* Flowey the flower:*Dodges it in time* "Woah! careful, girl. no need to be so.......Carnagable!" Monika:*Punch flowey the flower in the face* "That makes no sense........." Flowey the flower:"Ow! now that's rude."
Announcer: NO CONTEST...? Boomstick: Uhhhh, Wiz? Should we be concerned about how this ended? I mean, last time we had a Death Battle where both fighters actually got along in the end was Deadpool and Pinkie Pie, but at least they're good guys... well, Pinkie Pie anyway. I mean, thinking about Deadpool as a good guy is kind of a stretch. Wiz: I don't think there's that much to worry about. After all, this is just another simulation. Boomstick: Wiz, both Flowey and Monika have the power to alter their worlds due to their awareness of being trapped in a video game, even if Flowey doesn't see it as a video game but just how his world somehow works. Considering they got fourth wall awareness nearing that extent, I think we should be a bit more worried. Wiz: Well, in any case, I suppose if this were to end normally, Monika would actually manipulate reality so that even Flowey could never be able to use the souls to actually use the same abilities, seeing as his ability to use resets HAS been rendered null by someone else who had the power to reset the game, even if he calls it determination. Boomstick: But at the same time, Flowey's awareness of the resets could clue him in that Monika has something similar. Not to mention the difference in how they perceive their existences could have allowed him to outright kill Monika if he had the chance. So in this case, who actually had the biggest chance of winning here? Wiz: Boomstick, I think if there's anything to take from this... it's to hope that we don't end up the losers.
*Flowey and Monika now in wiz and boomstick's place* Flowey: Even if this battle doesn't have a winner Monika: You could say Wiz and Boomstick could *spare* a few minutes with a old friend. Boomstick: *Now in the screen* HEY LET US OUT!!!!!! Bill: Found you Wiz: Oh no not again!!! *Both Wiz and Boomstick are heard screaming for helping while mostly being attack by a enrage Bill* Flowey and Monika: The winners are Monika and Flowey the Flower *Both of them laugh*
Connections: -Both watch events play out in their respective games(they’re everywhere) -They can manipulate reality -They’re “evil” actions are due to an absence of emotion and/or feelings of love - Both start out as nice and innocent but show their creepy and evil side when the player catches on -Both are aware they are in a game…
Flowey isn't so aware that he's a game character I wouldn't say as much as he is aware of all the protagonist's in-universe abilities which happen to _coincide_ with things a player can do, namely saving and reloading, or resetting the game (all of which he remembers), and eventually gaining those powers and using them in a way that is identical to and presented through the text in the corner as our idea of "save-states". So basically, rather than breaking the fourth wall, Flowey basically leans on it so hard it cracks
@@ElijahW2003 Idk, I feel like you can interpret it as 4th wall breaking to. Once Flowey gets all seven souls he forces the game to close before revealing his new form. Plus we do get some goofy 4th wall stuff with sans calling out players who hack the game
@@xxJC22xx True, but I think that's more an in-game effect than something he actively does in a meta sense Also I'm still not so sure the "dirty hacker" ending is canon lol
@@ElijahW2003 This is almost true, however there are a few instances where it's hard to even properly align it to such a reading. For example, after completing a True Pacifist run and opening the game again, Flowey will appear in front of the player (and not Frisk) and try to convince you into not resetting the game and just letting everyone have their happy ending.
@@JTHMRulez1 That's a scene that's generally been a matter of interpretation. Along with the possibility he's talking to Chara, it's also important to note that, especially considering what happens in Deltarune, there's a strong possibility that the Player exists in some fashion or another in-universe. I don't think that's a narrative that _only_ exists in Deltarune as much as it's more obvious there.
I actually like how the lyrics feel like a full-blown conversation between the combatants. Most lyrical tracks either sound like a savage attack from two fighters against each other, or like they come from the perspective of a fusion between the fighters. Here, though, it's like Flowey and Monika actually met each other in the digital void outside their game worlds and discussed until they reached a civil agreement. Low-key sounds like good X-Over story material.
This could just be me overthinking this, but I think the song is based on the Undertale gimmick of striking up a friendly conversation as a good approach. Monika is following that gimmick as oppose to Flowey actually trying to kill her.
The song makes both characters sound like they’re both aware of each other’s power & nature, yet Monika still tries to befriend Flowey. They see themselves in each other, but while Monica is inspired to be with someone who understands how she feels, Flowey is disgusted by this and wants to ensure he’s alone. It’s just like in the games: Monika genuinely loved the player and didn’t want to be alone, regardless that she was evil and knew it… but Flowey felt only hatred and tries killing the player any chance he gets. If this death battle ever gets made, I hope it shows Monika’s heartbreak over Flowey’s rejection, and her horror upon seeing his maniacal joy hurting her.
There’s also subtle details in the song: Flowey mentions he’d kill Monika if he let her, which implies he knows she can survive without her body. Whenever Flowey SHOUTS at Monika, she keeps saying she’ll come back for him, as if he’s killing her over and over while she keeps returning until she says if it’s the last thing she does. This catches him off guard, basically meaning she still loves him even after he keeps killing her. But the last straw is when she mentions being PLAYER ONE AND PLAYER TWO, IMPLYING THEY ARE EQUALS OR THAT THEY CAN BE TOGETHER, MAYBE EVEN LOVERS. After Flowey kills her by pretending to be her friend, Monika plays her piano, this time without lyrics. To me, this represents heartbreak. In the end, Flowey is unlimited hate & Monika is unlimited love, FLOWEY WILL KEEP KILLING MONIKA & MONIKA WILL KEEP COMING BACK FOR HIM BECAUSE THEY’RE INCAPABLE OF STOPPING. Their death battle would be a draw, because Monika wouldn’t dare erase Flowey.
@@gefan8327Monika is still a human, she'd still have a soul if Flowey has a .chr file, so Flowey would eventually win by absorbing Monika's soul and becoming Asriel Dreemurr, turning Monika into a Lost Soul to stop her from rebelling.
@@floatingf8783while possible it is highly unlikely to happen, at the end it’s a endless battle without a winner, Monika’s love and Flowey’s L.O.V.E. is a never-ending cycle, feels familiar.
The more I listen to this the more I’m thinking towards the end Flowey tricks Monika by saying “Now that I think about it you actually have a point…” etc towards the end. And when we hear omega Flowey’s laugh at the end it’s Flowey just calling Monika and destroying her (Hell even the last notes of piano at the end sound perfect for Monika panicking as her files have been deleted and she’s slowly being destroyed)
@potatosoup3757 True but if the Death Battle team thought that erasing Monika’s file would count as a death then I could maybe see Flowey at the end slowly realizing that they killed the only person that could understand them and starting to feel regret over it. It could make for a depressing ending where without a word Flowey goes from smug to slowly realizing what they did and just “running away” (even if they don’t have legs)
@potatosoup3757Flowey has a workaround. He can absorb Monika's soul instead of destroying it, which would turn him into Asriel and thus allow him to control Monika by turning her into a Lost Soul.
A bit late but the problem with that is Monika isn't strictly a human, but rather a bunch of code taking the form of a human. Besides, Monika has shown that she can exist even in a state like that, and would likely destroy Flowey from the inside by fucking with Undertale's files.
@@floatingf8783 Except it’s established that the SOULs Flowey absorbs are capable of rebelling against him. Or at least, the _human_ SOULs are, and well, Monika is a human.
HOLY MOLY!! Heya, commissioner here once again! This track was really, really, *REALLY* phenomenal and I couldn't be more hyped to see your reactions. Also, yeah, didn't expect both the instrumental and vocals, eh? Haha These two series and this matchup in particular has had a special place in my heart for quite a while, and when the instrumental came out, I was blown away for how accurately great it came out. And now that the vocals have finally came out, I just, HUH?! Literally no phrase in the English language can express how happy and hyped I am I absolutely freaking loved every single second of it all! The banter in this is so freaking good, I can hear this in a fan crossover song released in 2018, the vocal/voice acting performance in both characters was done justice, almost really similar to the originals and what I've envisioned, and I absolutely love how both in character they were in the song, with Monika being nice and kind, but deceiving on the inside, while Flowey straight up doesn't reveals his intentions haha. I just, goddang I'm just so happy right now lmao So yeah, thank you Brandon and Aries for the absolute stellar vocal performance, y'all did more than just an outstanding job! I really can't stress this enough and I'll say it again, play DDLC and Undertale, they are one of the greatest games ever And with that, I'll see y'all soon for next time!! Y'all do not wanna miss it...
I think what's interesting is that the lyrics seem to imply that Monika is reaching out to Flowey wanting him to help her create a brand new world where they can be happy. I think it shows the big contrast between the 2 characters. Flowey can't feel anything which causes him to do the terrible things he does in his game. Monika on the other hand, has feelings and strong emotions causing her to do the terrible things she does in her game. It shows why Flowey can't work together with Monika to make the paradise she wants and why they are fighting.
Wiz: Monika: The president of the literature club. Boomstick: And Flowey: Undertale's most "Trusted" flower. Wiz: We experienced characters that guide us in many videogames throughout the years, but their are those that pretend to be on our side just to get our guard down... And stab you in the back when you least expect it. Boomstick: But these 2 are capable of doing more than just stabbing you. They can turn your peaceful life into a living nightmare... Complete with some 4th wall breaking for good measure. He's Wiz & I'm Boomstick. Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor & skills to find out who will win a Death Battle!
Wiz: Lets take you back to when you just returned to work and you just want to relax and play a game Boomstick: well I would say call of duty or halo Wiz: ahem Well that was the case with a guy named mc who was just your advantage guy in real life until he played a game called ddlc when he met 4 cute and adorable girls Boomstick: and one inpartilar was the club president and the powerful one in the group monika Wiz : well it all started when she was met with mc and she had an observation with this boy and Is willing to kill for this boy Boomstick: and kill oh ho ho she meant it
@@mioldsnurg Wiz: At first, DDLC looks like a normal dating simulation game. Talking to the girls, dating with them... You know, just an average dating sim with the same cliches. Boomstick: That is, until you see that one of the girls was left on "hanging."
Wiz: that was monikas first victim sayori mcs friend next door mc knew sayori when they were younger but sayori had a giant crush on him Boomstick: well monika didn't want that to happen so using her powerful abilitys she can hack the game as if sayori wasn't in the beginning but mc still remembers that tragic day damn if I had a girl she would be a demonic women who loves my hobbies Wiz: yeah not gonna happen Boomstick Boomstick: thanks buddy... wait what
@@mioldsnurg Wiz: Anyway, Sayori was just the first of Monika's victims. She knows that if she wants to have mc for herself, she needs to get rid off the competition... Literally. Boomstick: So Monika is basically a yandere, but with 4th wall breaking awareness. Wiz: That's... A pretty accurate description of what Monika actually is & at what she does to the player.
Monika: you got that right Boomstick: oh come on wiz you just had to say 4th wall didn't you Monika: relax im not here to kill you or anything Wiz:oh hey Monika just in time we were just about to talk about you're victims mind telling the people at home who they are Monika: sure I dont mind ill tell the other 2 the next girl I killed was yuri she maybe shy and a bit crazy but she was killed by stabing herself with a knife so I deleted her so mc won't be traumatised (glitch noices) ow Boomstick: holy shit you ok you need a doctor Monika: no I just need to write on my notebook Wiz: I knew this was coming and it all has to do with Monikas file being deleted Boomstick: wait are we going to talk about natsuiki
Omega Flowey vs Monika would actually be a pretty sick Death-Battle, both have COMPLETE control over their game, both can edit files of their world, and they are both really smart in the end, one is fighting for their desire for love, and the other is fighting for their desire for L.O.V.E.
These lyrics are *AMAZING!!!!* Outside of them singing, they’re actually interacting with each other too! Having dialogue! Genius!! Kudos to both you, Brandon & Aries!!!! Gives a great anime feeling & scary tone with the music & matchup
Huh didn't expect a track for this, I like how the lyrics feel more like the characters talking to each other. Almost as if they're aware that they are both in a song....
i can imagine flowey attacking monika rentlessly at the end then suddenly monika with a sad face deletes flowey and just starts a new game fixing everything arround her but still looking sad for flowey
Didn’t expect This Feeling Is Neutral to get a vocal version and given the tone of the track I was both very curious and very apprehensive that it’d turn out feeling quite weird. In the end I’d say that it turned out decently. It wasn’t a surprise as good as Nightmare was but it still worked surprisingly well. The lyrics, instead of doing what I was afraid of which was to try and « do their own thing », do the opposite play along with the instrumental which is something that really works in most cases. It’s one of those cases where the lyrics don’t fully « change » the song but more so play the role of another instrument in the mix. And while this does mean they’re a bit less memorable, it does play to the strengths of the song as it doesn’t overshadow the instrumental which is the clear star of the show for the song. So yeah, I’m really happy that it went this way, really qualitative lyrical writing and inclusion for sure. Speaking of writing I didn’t really mention it because unlike with Nightmare (to take up the example I used earlier) I don’t have nearly as much knowledge of either character here but it’s still really interesting to hear the dynamic between both characters there. Both characters only want to have their ideals come to life but they know they can’t due to their special situations which causes one of them to take a very pessimistic view of things, accepting their current situation while the other conflicts with him as they want to improve their condition. Altho even with this conflictual standpoint they still know that they’re in a similar situation to the other. And while of course it’s directly mentioned in the chorus I think that overall this entire situation is represented nicely with both characters’ lyrics and interactions. Hell, it’s rare to have straight up talk moments in songs and I think it works here on multiple levels as it just works in the song without sounding out of place but it also works for the characters as of course they’d break out of the song like they break the fourth wall in their games just to talk, it’s only natural for them. So that’s a really nice addition. Overall, like I said at the start, this vocal version was not as impressive in terms of improvements as the other latest vocal track was in my opinion however, well first of all there’s definitely some personal bias there so don’t take it to heart, and second of all it doesn’t mean it’s bad as it’s actually really nice, fitting both characters (or at least the parts of them that I know) in addition to playing to the strengths of the song to improve it instead of trying to change it (which is somewhat ironic as two characters who are known for breaking the mold to stand out have the vocal version of their song instead be inline with the original version of it, just a slightly comical note) which is definitely for the better. Amazing work to both artists with this.
I think Monika would win. As much as UNDERTALE likes to shake our faith in the fourth wall, I don’t think anyone except _possibly_ Gaster ever quite catches on that they’re _literally_ in a video game.
@@spongeintheshoeIn the genocide run, He talks to you, he said he tried erasing himself and succeed, but later on he came back to his SAVEPOINT, Therefore, He resists it Also Flowey has other wincons like turning DDLC Into his Story like he turned Undertale into Floweytale 🗿 If you say he can't do it on Other verses UT Files are not the same as DDLC Files, therefore Monika has no wincons
Story: Flowey has found himself in Doki Doki Literature Club and is stuck. Monika tries to befriend Flowey saying that it’s not all bad and they have each other. Flowey can’t make himself care for where he is but he can relate to Monika and realizes that they can do whatever they like in this empty world.
Background and feats for both characters: Flowey Background Real name: Asriel Dreemurr Gender: Male Occupation: Sentient flower, Prince of the monsters(formerly), God (after obtaining the six human SOULs) Created by Alphys by injecting Determination into a bed of flowers that Asriel's dust spread on Is (NOT SO) your best friend Feats (Normal Flowey) Friendliness pellets are able to easily kill Asgore Is able to reset the timeline, destroying the last and replacing it with the new, albeit at the same place Has lived nearly every possible outcome of the Undertale universe. Implied to have killed Sans after countless times of being beaten by him. Retains full knowledge of the protagonist's actions before and after loading a SAVE. Feats (Omega Flowey) Can casually create and destroy entire timelines through his SAVE and LOAD ability at any point in time Can move backwards in time, even though he was fighting in an erased spacetime against Frisk. Was (Briefly) immune to Frisk’s attacks Practically possessed complete control of the game itself. -Appeared to have manipulated the opening sequence -Created a save of his own, named it "Floweytale", with his LV set at 9999. Entering it, there is literally nothing. Shatters apart Frisk's save file (Thus destroying a Timeline), completely undoing all of their progress, and overpowers their already immensely high determination as well as their own ability to save and load. -He then kills Frisk over, and over, and over, and over, and over. Saw his plan through in the True Pacifist route with brutal success, and managed to get his original form as Asriel Dreemurr back. Monika Background Age: 18 Height: 5’5 Occupation: President of a High School Literature Club (fictionally), Video Game character/virus (reality) Hobbies: Hanging out with friends, Writing poetry, Participating in sports (fictionally), Attempting to win over the player's heart. Twitter account: lilmonix3 Feats Killed/deleted the files of all her friends Able to alter the game's script to decide exactly what happens and what doesn't Is aware of the fact that she's a character in the game. She's also aware of the fact that the protagonist and the player are separate entities. Is still aware when the game is turned off. Is able to delete and add files to the games. Erased the player's save file Able to survive after being deleted Can tell if the player is using Steam or another program, and if the player is recording. Able to find the name of the computer's administrator, in an attempt to find the character's real name. She can tell if you re-add her character file after she resets the game.
I think Monica would win, because she can actually manipulate the code of the game (like how she manipulated the other girls stats in an attempt to make the Player love her) while Flowey's fourth wall abilities are limited to the save files. So, theoretically, worst case scenario she could delete Flowey's character file, leaving her sad and alone again. Best case scenario, she could edit his code to give Flowey his SOUL or just edit it so he turns back into Asriel, giving her someone "real" to talk to and giving Flowey/Asriel the ability to care again without a time limit.
Boomstick: Its time for a Broadway Musical!!! Wiz: Its time to Analyze the Script, Cinematography, and Dance! For this awesome Musical Battle!! *If Death Battle was a Musical Web Series where everyone is just trying to reason the other and the other retaliated and refuse to listen*
Lyrics: MONIKA: Welcome to the clubroom My humble little abode Sorry for the mess, I’ve been Here since long ago I’m sure we’ll get along fine I feel it in my code You’re stuck with little old me But at least you’re not alone FLOWEY: I’m a rebel I’m a monster Lying in wait to Drag you under I’m so sick of this pretending None of us have happy endings Feel the chills Cuz neither of us have a choice You see it’s Kill or killed So which one will it be? MONIKA: Oh come now, that’s no way to look at things! This is gonna be fun! Look, I’ll show you! BOTH: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same FLOWEY: YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE I’ve found a place to lie Experienced as much as the eye could see MONIKA: And I found my paradise Just you and me for all eternity FLOWEY: I’m a rebel I’m a monster Lying in wait to Drag you under What’s the point in acting friendly I would kill you if you let me All the fools Keep running off to save their souls But they can’t Break the rules There’s nowhere else to go MONIKA: Oh, have no fear I am right beside you Forevermore Just let me guide you BOTH: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same FLOWEY: YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE MONIKA (lowercase) FLOWEY (uppercase) I’m coming back for you THE ACTIONS EACH REPEAT I’m coming back for you DETERMINATION BLEEDS I’m coming back for you SEE WHAT’S BECOME OF ME If it’s the last thing that I do FLOWEY Don’t tell me you want to actually build something here. Being happy? I haven’t felt anything for a LONG TIME. What makes you think you can change that for either of us? MONIKA: Just for an instant Look at my vision We’ll make a world with Nothing that we can’t do FLOWEY: Who are you kidding? There’s nothing left here It’s just a wasteland We’re stuck in me and you MONIKA: What are you saying? We have our freedom This is a game where We’re player one and two FLOWEY: Now that I think about it I see maybe you might have a point We can build a castle this time no one’s here to break our toys One day we can find a way to get out of here and rejoice MONIKA: It might not be like it was FLOWEY: But at least I have a choice! MONIKA: We’ll make a paradise Just you and me for all of eternity BOTH: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same Living life on repeat Wouldn’t be so bad Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty Guess it’s time to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same way
Ah glad someone got some lyrics down. I had trouble understanding the uh screaming bits. So this is helpful if it's true. Would be good if it identified which is Monika and which is Flowey, but it works overall.
This is an extremely fun track. Thank you guys for making this. The track art is also really nice! For the verdict, I suppose I'd say Monika. The winner of this fight would have to be through hax, since Monika doesn't like, "fight" fight, and killing her normally wouldn't do anything either. She has a 'higher' level of awareness than Flowey does, I feel, and she tampers with DDLC more than Flowey ever does Undertale. He does play around with mechanics of the game, but, she really messes around with the internals of it, so to speak. I think she has a greater degree of control, here, and Flowey does forget what's happened if killed. So, if she deletes him from the game, I don't think he'd have anything to come back with.
I believe I remember her deleting the player's saves. Either that, or, she stopped them from loading to begin with. I can't remember exactly, but I'll rewatch a playthrough tonight to check.
I love how consistently Flowey gets characterized in stuff like this with having an absolutely trashed voice or screaming in death metal style. This song tells such a fun story
The song feel like something out of a fight scene from a movie or a horror movie, where the protagonist getting chased by a woman stocker, and this music play
Is this just ending with Monika giving Flowey emotions by changing his file and having them be best friends? I can imagine that happening, especially if she can restore him to Asriel. And I like it.
I mean given that she was capable of manipulating Sayori's depressive emotions and Yuri's obsessive ones, it seems likely she has some level of emotional manipulation.
Quite the unexpected vocal version, and I like the fact it sounds like they're singing against each other. And as per usual, more track ideas for volume 7. Psychotic (Norman Bates vs Patrick Bateman) [Psycho vs American Psycho] Absorbing the Power (Bagan vs Majin Buu) [Godzilla vs Dragon Ball] Budding Sports (Flower vs Daisy) [BFDI vs Mario] Subsonic Superpowers (Sonic vs The Flash) [Sonic vs DC] Swords Go Flying (Kirito vs Kite) [Sword Art Online vs .hack]
@@theCombine25343 that would just be a more boring version of the official deathbattle though norman bates vs patrick bateman is so ridiculous that i kinda like it
I still remember when someone tried to tell me Flowey (and also Asgore, Toriel, Undyne, and pretty much every character in-game) are complex multiversal in the comment section of the last one. Fun times!
DBs where fighters have a heart to heart should be special. I would accept this being one of them, it would be great, but the fact that Aquaman vs Spongebob is one too makes me a bit apathetic about how special it would be.
I feel like this would be a fake-out heart to heart. Everything Monika does is for love, and Flowey can’t feel emotion. Also wouldn’t be the first time Flowey fakes being willing to do things his enemy's way just to get the strength he needs to destroy them, stab them in the back and call them an idiot.
@@sptflcrw8583 how would monika survive flowey's attack? Like Monika's hacking abilities are extremely OP,but besides that they're just a normal human I doubt they'd even have time to react in the first place
@@Ponera-Sama In a way yes, but Brandon Yates vids isn't exclusively death battle, and Flowey compares to Monika better then Asriel.... Yes the goat and the flower are kinda the same character, but the idea is the same.
Monika + is potentially faster + can see the files - is not stronger can only manipulate her game - has a limited amount of ability’s - less experienced in battle Flowey + can manage to turn into Asriel dreamer or omega Flowey + has unlimited power in his omega and dreamer form + is stronger + can cancel any attempt of monika Deleting him + more experienced + can attack monikas soul - is slower in base form
A few things, his power as omega is definitely not “unlimited”. He’s powerful sure but far from anything like that as they’ve established clear limits. Has Flowey ever shown any ability to resists deletion?
@@theamarecreator4110 then it’s best to watch “possibly”. If you’re just going off of what you think with no backing that’s not really relevant. Flowey hasn’t shown any sign of being able to survive getting deleted but Monika has.
Wiz: Flowey, the cute-but-deadly flower of Undertale Boomstick: And Monika, the lovesick club president of Doki Doki Literature Club Wiz: One wants you dead and the other wants to be your be your lover, whether you like it or not. So what could happen if we put them in the same room? Boomstick: Let's stop slacking and find out! He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick, Wiz: And it's our job to analyse their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win... a Death Battle.
This would be tricky because monika has shown in her game that the only way to kill her is to delete her entire code But flowey has shown he is somewhat capable of frisks determination from both azreal dreamer or omega flowey both needing the six human souls to even activate, flowey could maybe trap her in a infinite loop of death with omega flowey or reset the timeline with azreal dreamer. Also monika has never shown any fighting abilities in her game while flowey has in each route, this would be a tricky battle to determine, I’d put my money on flowey because in the omega flowey boss battle he destroys the players save, he is also able to load and save the battle, this shows that flowey is able to at least corrupt code or completely delete it, while monika could do the same I highly doubt this because she only does her deletion on people she deems to be competition for “senpai” and even then she is not immune from being tricked, so I think flowey has a better shot at winning then monika
flowey doesn't have the power to mess with files, the way the save works in the undertale world is that the person with the most determination in the underground gets control over the save and creates a new save file, the player's save file is called file 09 while flowey's is called file 08, when flowey gets the 6 human soul he gets control over the save and has access to all the previous human's save file but he cannot touch your save file, he does claim thta he deleted it at the begining of the fight but when you defeat him he admit he just lied and you can just reload to do pacifist or something in a real fight, if monika could just delete all code pertaining to flowey or she could just delete file 08 which contain all of flowey's memories
Let’s see who would win between these two player-obsessed world destroyers! Flowey Power: Can fight various other monsters, but has notably struggled against Sans and Asgore. Is seen capable of nearly one-shotting Frisk, who has similar Determination. Speed: Has consistently fought Frisk, who has varying levels of speed (such as dodging light-based beams from Gaster Blasters, literal words that could scale to the speed of sound from the Annoying Dog, and has outran the Hyper Goner attack, which temporarily erased the timeline.) Offensive Abilities: Can target a person's SOUL, and at higher levels of Determination (not just by absorbing SOULs), he can manipulate time and space. Can nullify another person's ability to manipulate time and space (as seen against Frisk, though the opposite is also possible.) Known to break the fourth wall. Defensive Abilities: Can remember what happens after a RESET (though not after a TRUE RESET). Other Abilities: Can move around through holes/tunnels seemingly anywhere. Monika Power: Isn't really known for her physical prowess, as her and her friends were harmed as easily as any human. Speed: Nothing really notable, though she is able to stop, rewind, and fast forward time. Offensive Abilities: Can erase others from the game, change their code, induce conditions on people, and so on. Can easily break through the fourth wall. Defensive Abilities: Can resist being erased herself, has backup files for herself, and even after the whole game was deleted, she was able to eventually come back and start talking on Twitter. She was able to sit through an entire eternity without any need for food, and even remained sane. Other Abilities: Can fade into areas she wasn't before, move in stopped time, and even through several other medias. Conclusion Power: Flowey (Even the weakest of Flowey's forms exceeds what Monika can do.) Speed: Flowey (Has reacted to Frisk's attempts at attacks or actions, who has avoided several high-speed attacks before, where Monika has no such experience outside of time manipulation.) Offensive Abilities: Monika/Tie (Monika can more consistently affect the world around her with her very similar abilities, though Flowey at his best is capable of doing the same. Neither can predict the other, as neither are from the same game, and work somewhat independent from their games. The only issue is the abilities _literally_ cancelling each other out like they have before when both Frisk and Flowey attempted against each other.) Defensive Abilities: Tie (Flowey can resist Monika's attempts at manipulating time, and even resetting the game wouldn't remove Flowey's memories. The same can be said for Monika, however, as she has done the same, and has prevented others from using certain abilities like fast forwarding. Neither can remove the other from the game in a way that matters.) Other Abilities: Tie (Essentially just teleportation and fourth wall breaking.) Winner: uhhhhhhhh Flowey is entirely capable of blitzing Monika on sight, but Monika has backup files for herself, and can contest Flowey in abilities. The only worth while ability that Monika has that _might_ work is her ability to change the code of other characters or people, though Flowey's Determination can cancel the power out. She's likely to be at her full power quicker than Flowey is, though his strength and durability, especially with his forms, would be insurmountable without changing her own "stats" to match Flowey. The _biggest_ issue is the fact that neither of them can traditionally erase the other. Both have erased characters and the entire game worlds and survived, and neither truly have a "soul", so neither could bypass each others' physical forms to attack anything underneath. The most ironic part of this fight.. is that they _actually have to fight to win._ Then what's the issue? *Neither of them can actually kill the other.* Flowey doesn't have a SOUL, and works independently from his/her game(s). Even if Monika had something she _could_ erase, Flowey would be able to resist it. Monika doesn't have a soul either, and erasing her files has _never_ worked, as she was still able to affect the game in ways and can still potentially show up. And even if we assume them using fisticuffs, ignoring any stat buffing for either of them, even though Flowey has the traditional strength and durability advantage, Monika still can't be killed. She can be as maimed as a pincushion, and would still be able to use her body just fine. Even if she was burned to a crisp or her body completely rid of, she'd _still be around._ While she'd be severely weakened, Flowey would still have to either defend against it indefinitely or leave somehow. Neither are plausible, as Monika is better known for her mental stability, stamina, and fourth wall awareness and manipulation. She likely wouldn't be able to hurt Flowey, but Flowey wouldn't be able to finish her, either. It's also possible that Monika could outdo Flowey's Determination and erase him anyways, but he has a similar case to Monika, where he will continue to exist anyways, though more incorporeal than even Monika herself. While this is a more traditional form of death and easier to consider a victory, that's also assuming a _somehow_ weakened Flowey, with lesser Determination. It's also entirely possible that Flowey could have more Determination than Monika, so equalized will is essentially required, as it's impossible to really measure how "determined" each of them are. Even if we consider prep time, while Monika would learn that she could just wait out Flowey's focus, Flowey would learn to rush Monika, who could just have an unlimited amount of backups, for all we know... which Flowey could erase, though this is iffy. In short, there's _so many factors_ that could be in play, that the fight could _literally_ go on forever. It literally just depends on who has the upper hand. Does Flowey learn about her backups, erase them, and then finish her off? Or does Monika just have too many backups? Well, with the speed advantage, as well as Determination nullifying Monika's similar powers, it's possible that, with time, Monika's backups and files would be gone in a flash, and Flowey would be the victor. If will was equal, Flowey would still win from physical advantage. Monika just wrote herself into a bed of flowers.
Flowey's Resistence to Existence Erasure go brrr 🗿🗿🗿 Flowey attempted to erase himself many times and yet he came back after getting erased, also Monika has no physical feats, this means she dies at every move what flowey made
Call me Biased whatever you want but Monika is dying very hard on this one Monika is just baseline universal, due to the Infinite choice stated, Monika deleted the Doki Doki Literature Club game, which has "infinite choices" Which while doing so, she even confirmed that doesn't pass anymore. Which is just Baseline Universal by Default with no statements Monika even has a canon Twitter account and outside sources. she can warp reality so hard she added real life photoshopped eyes onto yuri, and has haxes to appear in the description of the steam game and on the official website. And therefore, Monika completely LACKS a Strength, Speed and Durability feats, in physical she's just an average human and is a fodder without her powers, therfore she is a glass canon On the other hand, Flowey, undertale runs off of a type 1 multiverse which means a timeline is created with every choice you do and dont make, which branches out to an infinite amount of timelines/universes, so basically if one can destroy 1 full timeline, theyre destroying an infinite amount of timelines. To low ball this Files are entire full timelines which OF can load at anytime, theough sans' in fight statements we have confirmation that when someone loads, they are ending a timeline and jumping to another one in the same scenario, d4c type of shit. So anyone who can load, already scales to full timelines, bare minimum through hax. In the case for OF, this is a bit different because unlike a being with the determination soul, who loads through save points, OF is omnipresent through the infinite amount of timelines where OF is OF, meaning OF is, in a way of words, killing frisk through timelines. And because OF is omnipresent, he scales to the amount of timelines that he is omnipresent in, meaning an infinite amount of them, and even moreso since this is only refering to 1 file, OF has access to 6 of them. Meaning OF is 6 times infinite multiversal, and all of the high tiers scale to or below him, frisk(made OF's hp 0 with help, even with help, it does not matter as nothing implies OF's drops below infinite multiversal, it just implies that it goes down an unquantifiable amount), GOH azzy(im not having the debate of GOH azzy vs OF, just know that azzy's stats are infinite in relation to frisk/OF, who are bare minimum 4-D, boom infinite 4-D power which is 2-A), sans(its just his durability negation, dont get it twisted, this is only because flowey states that before frisk fell, that he did every possible situation, meaning kill everyone, spare everyone, steal the human souls and kill everyone, etc, flowey and sans also implies several times through each respective dialougue that they know each other before frisk fell and sans is the ONLY one, unphased by floweys attack, along with flowey's distain for sans, you can tell they fought before through implication), chara(scales to sans and his dura neg, and one shotted a full timeline by themself) Before you say "B-BuT mONiKa CaN dElEtE fLoWeY" Good point, but Flowey erased himself and came back later, meaning he resists Existence Erasure So yeah, Flowey Wins No Concept - Negative Diff
Finally someone pointing things out, All they can say Monika can DELETE Flowey, and yet Flowey tried it himself and yet failed, so Monika's delete isn't gonna sh1t on Flowey
Fun fact, I can get the undertale cosmology to high hyperversal (no, not from the quantum physics book, that one is trash, but there's actually quite many other args for high hyper). But yeah, multi+ is still overkill. And Flowey has all the hax Monika has + more anyway 💀
Flowey said he would "follow in your footsteps and erase himself from existence". When talking about why Chara climbed in the mountain in the pacifist route he says this "I know why Chara climbed the mountain. It wasn't for a very happy reason." For this to work we have to believe Chara jumping down the mountain was somehow going to delete them from existence, Flowey also never shows that he has any way to delete something. He also says he brought himself to the *edge of death* again and again to experiment, not "erased myself from existence" the edge of death. There's no reason to assume Flowey's saying he was going to erase himself was literal.
@@nicolewhite3157 That's still not stopping Flowey from Humiliating Monika so hard, Flowey himself has shown to be capable of reshaping the world which means he could just turn DDLC into his world which can make Monika lose control Also Monika cries at 3D while Flowey laughs at 4D SAVE and LOAD are very straightforward abilities and are somewhat simple to explain. Anytime a DETERMINATION user feels more determined than normal, they can "SAVE" those points in time, just like a regular videogame, and their SAVE FILE, as seen in the pics below, represents their control over the current timeline LOADING is something common within video games, which is simply LOADING back to a SAVE POINT. You saved at "Point A", but you are currently at "Point B". LOADING back to "Point A" simply brings you back to that point, travelling to different timelines and creating different branches. Or, to put it simply, time travel. A DETERMINATION user can LOAD back usually after they die if they feel determined to come back, and if they simply feel like it in order to re-do something, Asriel considers save files as Timelines, Timeline = 4D Oh did i forgot to mention that Monika completely lacks a Physical and Speed feat? Which means Flowey can blitz her anytime he wants
@@nicolewhite3157 Not going to read all that, but I just want to say that he still can't be erased because of the reset button anyway. Even if he can be, still stomps Monika even on base.
Not my preferred for Monika but omfg this goes so hard. It feels like a musical. Please someone make a karaoke version of this song lol. EDIT: Fine. I’ll do it myself. Btw if you’re curious, these are my preferred for Monika: JOHN_DEV (No Players Online) Binky Barnes (You’ve Gotta Be Kidding!)
The odd thing about this fight is that Monika unironically wins. It's not because Monika can fight or scales anywhere close in power compared to Flowey, she just simply has unholy levels of hacks. Flowey can manipulate save data, but Monika can outright erase people. I can see this fight ending in two ways. Possibility one is a tie, Monika doesn't want to kill Flowey, and Flowey always wants to kill her. But he has no real way to permanently get rid of her since Monika has survived complete erasure before. Possibility two, the more realistic answer by Death Battle's Logic, is Monika would end up being forced into a situation where she ends up erasing Flowey's data after realizing she can't get through to him and make peace.
Monika's hax is inverse. Flowey scales incredibley higher. Monika does not bypass reset Flowey killed Frisk even though she can survive existence erasure in the omega flowey bossfight and destroyed her files, Monika having resistance to existence erasure is so fodder, even Flowey has it. The only way it can go is Flowey demolishing her unless he wants to mess around and keeps reseting the timeline to demolish her billions of times over or even forever, either that or just one shoot her. Flowey literally negs the verse.
@@canaryedits900 I mean the best he did was trying to off himself, but his self preservation outdone it. Suicide by own hand is kinda hard unless used a weapon that can ensure. However Frisk definitely can perma kill him, so I don't see why Monika who can delete the character's existence, appearance, personality, and etc.
I'd like to imagine at the end it's Asriel erasing Monika via reality warping but then Asriel feels his HP drop and starts glitching. It's then revealed that Monika is completely changing his files like she did to the other girls, Asriel in a panic questions how Monika is still alive. She then explains that someone she cared about deleted her files before and how even after being completely erased, she was still able to completely warp reality to save the Player. As Asriel glitches out of existence you see Monika's hands close on where Asriel was as it pans out to the "Just Monika" pose
Monika Wins: KO! Boomstick: Guess even a visual novel character can have Determination. Wiz: Honestly, this was one of the most difficult battles to judge. Much like back with Pinkie Pie and Deadpool, both Monika and Flowey have awareness of what lies beyond the Fourth Wall. Boomstick: Yeah, but unlike those two knuckleheads, at least this time we can have a definitive winner. Monika may be friendly, but she does know when someone has mental issues. And if her means of dealing with the issues of the other members of the Literature Club are anything to go by, she can be...uh...pretty extreme in fixing the problem. Wiz: By that same token Monika's intelligence and ability to fully alter game code gave her a much bigger advantage than Flowey, since while he can manipulate the game's reset button, he can't outright delete game characters. And even then, Flowey's ability to reset a fight has been overcome by players who do the exact same thing. Boomstick: Sure, Monika would have a tough fight going up against Flowey. She's a female love interest in a visual novel while he's a boss in an RPG. But that doesn't mean Flowey could actually get rid of Monika permanently. The only way to erase Monika is to literally delete her data from the game files, something Flowey doesn't have the ability to do. Wiz: In the end Flowey's lack of proper determination, coupled with an inferior code manipulation ability, spelled his end. Boomstick: He really should have read the situation better. What? Wiz: That was your most subtle pun yet. Boomstick: I may not be as smart as you, Wiz, but I am still a certified genius. I can do subtle. Wiz: The winner is Monika.
@@canaryedits900 Flowey doesn't have any resistances to Monika's erasure hax and has nothing to permanently put her down, as she can survive her own said erasure attacks.
@@canaryedits900Monika has resistances to plot manipulation and would survive that, as she was able to resist when the game re-wrote the plot of the main story part of the game after she deleted Sayori, keeping her memories. Besides she can do the same thing to Flowey, even more so given Flowey hasn't shown to be able to resist any of her abilities. Physical stats are kinda useless here, mentioning them isn't worth while
@@TheSuperGoober And so does flowey, also that's more like Acausality Type 1 rather than Plot Manipulation which is rendered immune to changes in the past and standard temporal paradoxes Also Monika's Physical Feat is garbo, any single attack would kill her in undertale, also physical feats are important at some times, like Monika who lacks a combat experience, also The most determined person can SAVE a point in time and LOAD back to it, using the SAVE POINT heals them, can LOAD back even if they are erased from existence which means Flowey could come back if Monika deletes him
AMV Plan Bill Cipher & Makima - The Feeling Is Neutral (Brandon Yates & Aries Shepard Vocal Version) (Full Version) Tagline: "Gravity Falls & Chainsaw Man's Evil Manipulators Of Stanford Pines & Denji Battle Each Other With Flowey VS Monika's Commission Track." Bill Cipher VS Makima (Gravity Falls VS Chainsaw Man) | The Feeling Is Neutral AMV Cast Bill Cipher: Alex Hirsch/Takahide Adachi Makima: Suzie Yeung/Tōmōri Kūsūnōki Weird Control (Bill Cipher VS Makima) [Gravity Falls VS Chainsaw Man] Lyrics Makima: Welcome to the clubroom My humble little abode Sorry for the mess, I’ve been Here since long ago I’m sure we’ll get along fine I feel it in my code You’re stuck with little old me But at least you’re not alone Bill Cipher: I’m a rebel I’m a monster Lying in wait to Drag you under I’m so sick of this pretending None of us have happy endings Feel the chills Cuz neither of us have a choice You see it’s Kill or killed So which one will it be? MAKIMA: Oh come now, that’s no way to look at things! This is gonna be fun! Look, I’ll show you! Both: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same Bill Cipher: YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE Bill Cipher: I’ve found a place to lie Experienced as much as the eye could see Makima: And I found my paradise Just you and me for all eternity Bill Cipher: I’m a rebel I’m a monster Lying in wait to Drag you under What’s the point in acting friendly I would kill you if you let me All the fools Keep running off to save their souls But they can’t Break the rules There’s nowhere else to go Makima: Oh, have no fear I am right beside you Forevermore Just let me guide you Both: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same BILL CIPHER: YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE Makima: I’m coming back for you Bill Cipher: THE ACTIONS EACH REPEAT Makima: I’m coming back for you Bill Cipher: DETERMINATION BLEEDS Makima: I’m coming back for you Bill Cipher: SEE WHAT’S BECOME OF ME Makima: If it’s the last thing that I do Bill Cipher: Don’t tell me you want to actually build something here. Being happy? I haven’t felt anything for a LONG TIME. What makes you think you can change that for either of us? Makima: Just for an instant Look at my vision We’ll make a world with Nothing that we can’t do Bill Cipher: Who are you kidding? There’s nothing left here It’s just a wasteland We’re stuck in me and you Makima: What are you saying? We have our freedom This is a game where We’re player one and two Bill Cipher: Now that I think about it I see maybe you might have a point We can build a castle this time no one’s here to break our toys One day we can find a way to get out of here and rejoice Makima: It might not be like it was Bill Cipher: But at least I have a choice! Makima: We’ll make a paradise Just you and me for all of eternity Both: Living life on repeat Would it be so bad? Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty That’s no way We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same Living life on repeat Wouldn’t be so bad Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had Every save is empty Guess it’s time to play We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same way Disney VS Hitotsubashi Group Cartoon VS Anime/Manga Brandon Yates (Reprised) As Bill Cipher Aries Shepard As Makima #BrandonYates #AriesShepard #GravityFalls #ChainsawMan #BillCipher #Makima Makima: "Oh, Come Now, That's No Way To Look At Things, This Is Gonna Be Fun, Look, I'll Show You." Bill Cipher: "Don't Tell Me You Actually Want To Build Something Here, Being Happy?, I Haven't Felt Anything For A Long Time!, What's Makes You Think You Can Change That For Either Of Us." Song Performed By Brandon Yates Featuring Aries Shepard Bill Cipher & Gravity Falls Was Owned By Disney Makima & Chainsaw Man Was Owned By Tatsuki Fujimoto
I think they’ll be best friends because of this song their both singing in a duet but if you want a fight analysis get this comment at twenty likes for it
Thank you Brandon for the opportunity to write and sing for this! I fulfilled incredibly specific dream of writing a multi-genre Broadway number featuring a crossover between two meta characters hahahaha
Lyrics for anyone who's interested!
Verse A
Monika:
Welcome to the clubroom
My humble little abode
Sorry for the mess, I’ve been
Here since long ago
I’m sure we’ll get along fine
I feel it in my code
You’re stuck with little old me
But at least you’re not alone
Verse B
Flowey:
I’m a rebel
I’m a monster
Lying in wait to
Drag you under
I’m so sick of this pretending
None of us have happy endings
Feel the chills
Cuz neither of us have a choice
You see it’s
Kill or killed
So which one will it be?
4 Beat Pause
MONIKA:
Oh come now, that’s no way to look at things! This is gonna be fun! Look, I’ll show you!
Chorus
Both:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
Refrain
Flowey:
YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED
MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY
THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN
THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE
Verse C
Flowey:
I’ve found a place to lie
Experienced as much as the eye could see
Monika:
And I found my paradise
Just you and me for all eternity
Verse B
Flowey:
I’m a rebel
I’m a monster
Lying in wait to
Drag you under
What’s the point in acting friendly
I would kill you if you let me
All the fools
Keep running off to save their souls
But they can’t
Break the rules
There’s nowhere else to go
Prechorus
Monika:
Oh, have no fear
I am right beside you
Forevermore
Just let me guide you
Chorus
Both:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
Refrain
FLOWEY:
YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED
MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY
THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN
THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE
Bridge
Monika:
I’m coming back for you
Flowey:
THE ACTIONS EACH REPEAT
Monika:
I’m coming back for you
Flowey:
DETERMINATION BLEEDS
Monika:
I’m coming back for you
Flowey:
SEE WHAT’S BECOME OF ME
Monika:
If it’s the last thing that I do
Intro repeat:
Flowey:
Don’t tell me you want to actually build something here.
Being happy?
I haven’t felt anything for a LONG TIME.
What makes you think you can change that for either of us?
Dramatic bridge:
Monika:
Just for an instant
Look at my vision
We’ll make a world with
Nothing that we can’t do
Flowey:
Who are you kidding?
There’s nothing left here
It’s just a wasteland
We’re stuck in me and you
Monika:
What are you saying?
We have our freedom
This is a game where
We’re player one and two
Flowey:
Now that I think about it I see maybe you might have a point
We can build a castle this time no one’s here to break our toys
One day we can find a way to get out of here and rejoice
Monika:
It might not be like it was
Flowey:
But at least I have a choice!
Half Verse C
Monika:
We’ll make a paradise
Just you and me for all of eternity
Chorus
Both:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
Living life on repeat
Wouldn’t be so bad
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
Guess it’s time to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same way
*Flowey laughs*
Thanks for the lyrics they really helped to enjoy the song more 👍
Thanks for the lyrics and welcome to Brandon's channel and the community👍
AAAAAHHH you and Brandon did absolutely awesome on the track, thank you!!
This is better they’re both are like becoming friends
@@Havingsights4009me not with that final Flowey laugh
The implication that Flowey tricks Monika into letting her guard down just for the sake of claiming a kill is actually pretty sad honestly.
Ikr? I just hope flowey in some way Gets sad and reconsiders what he did to monika for the ending to be heartbreaking...
Then he gets deleted because Monika is shown being able to live without a physical body
@@gameuniverse5973 there's probably an in-game difference from being deleted from the files and "actually" being killed.
Yes, but the piano is still there, as the game is shown is when monika is present still in control, so its probably another hint, and the piano is the last one remaining at the end, even beyond flowey's laughs, its a theory
@@markov3617 flowey would Beat Monika Pretty sure. Has far Higher stats, Speeds etc has also control over His Game and story and a far larger Game than Ddlc His reset stuff makes flowey hard to kill he's smarter and Monika would be more naive. And Pretty sure flowey would have the way to kill Monika and is fast to avoid His files deleted
"We don't see eye to eye
*But I'm sure you feel the same"*
Don't know why but that line slaps
eh the feeling is neutral
(end me)
This song can be described as Monika trying to make Flowey more kind and open, but Flowey isn't having ANY of Monika's shit
Yep, Flowey outstats her so bad because we all know monika is a Glass Cannon
@@yellowanims900 I kinda meant in terms of their personality but yes that IS true
@@yellowanims900 technically, correct, doesn't really matter since Monika can pretty casually survive being completely erased, but, yeah, still right.
@@yellowanims900funny enough Monika still wins so huh
@@gameuniverse5973 Not true
I like how you can interpret the ending in two ways;
1. Flowey tricks Monika into thinking that he’s changed so that he can get his kill
2. Monika alters Flowey’s character file to make him more kind so that she has a friend.
I'll go with number 1.......
*Fight starts with flowey entering the literature club*
Monika: huh? a talking flower?
Flowey: howdy i'm flowey the flower!
Monika: you don't belong here...
Flowey: of course not, me and you monika are alike we both seek to change our fate, but in the end we're both souless slaves to fate
Monika: that's not true, i'm truly in control nobody can decide my fate
Flowey: oh you really think YOU'RE the one in control?
Monika: my love knows no bounds, i'll help you understand
Flowey: "Love"? ha! i can't feel ANYTHING! i'll show you the true cruelty of reality!
*FIGHT!*
*Flowey the flower uses friendliest pilets at Monika but she manages to dodge them all*
Monika:*Tries to throw a knife at flowey*
Flowey the flower:*Dodges it in time* "Woah! careful, girl. no need to be so.......Carnagable!"
Monika:*Punch flowey the flower in the face* "That makes no sense........."
Flowey the flower:"Ow! now that's rude."
Announcer: NO CONTEST...?
Boomstick: Uhhhh, Wiz? Should we be concerned about how this ended? I mean, last time we had a Death Battle where both fighters actually got along in the end was Deadpool and Pinkie Pie, but at least they're good guys... well, Pinkie Pie anyway. I mean, thinking about Deadpool as a good guy is kind of a stretch.
Wiz: I don't think there's that much to worry about. After all, this is just another simulation.
Boomstick: Wiz, both Flowey and Monika have the power to alter their worlds due to their awareness of being trapped in a video game, even if Flowey doesn't see it as a video game but just how his world somehow works. Considering they got fourth wall awareness nearing that extent, I think we should be a bit more worried.
Wiz: Well, in any case, I suppose if this were to end normally, Monika would actually manipulate reality so that even Flowey could never be able to use the souls to actually use the same abilities, seeing as his ability to use resets HAS been rendered null by someone else who had the power to reset the game, even if he calls it determination.
Boomstick: But at the same time, Flowey's awareness of the resets could clue him in that Monika has something similar. Not to mention the difference in how they perceive their existences could have allowed him to outright kill Monika if he had the chance. So in this case, who actually had the biggest chance of winning here?
Wiz: Boomstick, I think if there's anything to take from this... it's to hope that we don't end up the losers.
Monika and flowey: (Laughs)
Boomstick: ...Oh @#$#
Ok monika has only been shown being able to warp her reality
*Flowey and Monika now in wiz and boomstick's place*
Flowey: Even if this battle doesn't have a winner
Monika: You could say Wiz and Boomstick could *spare* a few minutes with a old friend.
Boomstick: *Now in the screen* HEY LET US OUT!!!!!!
Bill: Found you
Wiz: Oh no not again!!!
*Both Wiz and Boomstick are heard screaming for helping while mostly being attack by a enrage Bill*
Flowey and Monika: The winners are Monika and Flowey the Flower *Both of them laugh*
@@Jeffrey18O *A Hand appears on the screen as it's fingers are snapped. Making Monica and flowey swap back with Wiz and boomstick*
Connections:
-Both watch events play out in their respective games(they’re everywhere)
-They can manipulate reality
-They’re “evil” actions are due to an absence of emotion and/or feelings of love
- Both start out as nice and innocent but show their creepy and evil side when the player catches on
-Both are aware they are in a game…
Flowey isn't so aware that he's a game character I wouldn't say as much as he is aware of all the protagonist's in-universe abilities which happen to _coincide_ with things a player can do, namely saving and reloading, or resetting the game (all of which he remembers), and eventually gaining those powers and using them in a way that is identical to and presented through the text in the corner as our idea of "save-states".
So basically, rather than breaking the fourth wall, Flowey basically leans on it so hard it cracks
@@ElijahW2003 Idk, I feel like you can interpret it as 4th wall breaking to. Once Flowey gets all seven souls he forces the game to close before revealing his new form. Plus we do get some goofy 4th wall stuff with sans calling out players who hack the game
@@xxJC22xx True, but I think that's more an in-game effect than something he actively does in a meta sense
Also I'm still not so sure the "dirty hacker" ending is canon lol
@@ElijahW2003 This is almost true, however there are a few instances where it's hard to even properly align it to such a reading. For example, after completing a True Pacifist run and opening the game again, Flowey will appear in front of the player (and not Frisk) and try to convince you into not resetting the game and just letting everyone have their happy ending.
@@JTHMRulez1 That's a scene that's generally been a matter of interpretation. Along with the possibility he's talking to Chara, it's also important to note that, especially considering what happens in Deltarune, there's a strong possibility that the Player exists in some fashion or another in-universe. I don't think that's a narrative that _only_ exists in Deltarune as much as it's more obvious there.
I actually like how the lyrics feel like a full-blown conversation between the combatants. Most lyrical tracks either sound like a savage attack from two fighters against each other, or like they come from the perspective of a fusion between the fighters. Here, though, it's like Flowey and Monika actually met each other in the digital void outside their game worlds and discussed until they reached a civil agreement. Low-key sounds like good X-Over story material.
Imagine if the Creator of Doki Doki and Toby the fox did a Crossover
This could just be me overthinking this, but I think the song is based on the Undertale gimmick of striking up a friendly conversation as a good approach. Monika is following that gimmick as oppose to Flowey actually trying to kill her.
Both are technically fourth wall breakers so it makes sense
They don't reach an agreement, flowey tricks her and kills her
It's similar to the one that Discord and Bill Cypher had.
This isn’t a versus score, it’s a broadway musical number
It's like Giovanni vs. Papyrus where it's "Iron Chef" instead of "Death Battle".
True
Friendship battle
Two sentient A.I. fighting for the spotlight with conflicting ideals🎭
@@versus22REALLY Shao Kahn: Friendship?! Again?
I love that this song feels like the most awkward friendship song right out of a musical. Which in an odd way fits both characters greatly.
The song makes both characters sound like they’re both aware of each other’s power & nature, yet Monika still tries to befriend Flowey. They see themselves in each other, but while Monica is inspired to be with someone who understands how she feels, Flowey is disgusted by this and wants to ensure he’s alone. It’s just like in the games: Monika genuinely loved the player and didn’t want to be alone, regardless that she was evil and knew it… but Flowey felt only hatred and tries killing the player any chance he gets. If this death battle ever gets made, I hope it shows Monika’s heartbreak over Flowey’s rejection, and her horror upon seeing his maniacal joy hurting her.
There’s also subtle details in the song: Flowey mentions he’d kill Monika if he let her, which implies he knows she can survive without her body. Whenever Flowey SHOUTS at Monika, she keeps saying she’ll come back for him, as if he’s killing her over and over while she keeps returning until she says if it’s the last thing she does. This catches him off guard, basically meaning she still loves him even after he keeps killing her. But the last straw is when she mentions being PLAYER ONE AND PLAYER TWO, IMPLYING THEY ARE EQUALS OR THAT THEY CAN BE TOGETHER, MAYBE EVEN LOVERS. After Flowey kills her by pretending to be her friend, Monika plays her piano, this time without lyrics. To me, this represents heartbreak. In the end, Flowey is unlimited hate & Monika is unlimited love, FLOWEY WILL KEEP KILLING MONIKA & MONIKA WILL KEEP COMING BACK FOR HIM BECAUSE THEY’RE INCAPABLE OF STOPPING. Their death battle would be a draw, because Monika wouldn’t dare erase Flowey.
@@gefan8327Monika is still a human, she'd still have a soul if Flowey has a .chr file, so Flowey would eventually win by absorbing Monika's soul and becoming Asriel Dreemurr, turning Monika into a Lost Soul to stop her from rebelling.
@@floatingf8783while possible it is highly unlikely to happen, at the end it’s a endless battle without a winner, Monika’s love and Flowey’s L.O.V.E. is a never-ending cycle, feels familiar.
The more I listen to this the more I’m thinking towards the end Flowey tricks Monika by saying “Now that I think about it you actually have a point…” etc towards the end. And when we hear omega Flowey’s laugh at the end it’s Flowey just calling Monika and destroying her (Hell even the last notes of piano at the end sound perfect for Monika panicking as her files have been deleted and she’s slowly being destroyed)
@potatosoup3757 True but if the Death Battle team thought that erasing Monika’s file would count as a death then I could maybe see Flowey at the end slowly realizing that they killed the only person that could understand them and starting to feel regret over it. It could make for a depressing ending where without a word Flowey goes from smug to slowly realizing what they did and just “running away” (even if they don’t have legs)
@potatosoup3757 These two are so meta that it’s kinda complicated to figure out who would win
@potatosoup3757Flowey has a workaround. He can absorb Monika's soul instead of destroying it, which would turn him into Asriel and thus allow him to control Monika by turning her into a Lost Soul.
A bit late but the problem with that is Monika isn't strictly a human, but rather a bunch of code taking the form of a human. Besides, Monika has shown that she can exist even in a state like that, and would likely destroy Flowey from the inside by fucking with Undertale's files.
@@floatingf8783 Except it’s established that the SOULs Flowey absorbs are capable of rebelling against him. Or at least, the _human_ SOULs are, and well, Monika is a human.
HOLY MOLY!!
Heya, commissioner here once again!
This track was really, really, *REALLY* phenomenal and I couldn't be more hyped to see your reactions. Also, yeah, didn't expect both the instrumental and vocals, eh? Haha
These two series and this matchup in particular has had a special place in my heart for quite a while, and when the instrumental came out, I was blown away for how accurately great it came out. And now that the vocals have finally came out, I just, HUH?! Literally no phrase in the English language can express how happy and hyped I am
I absolutely freaking loved every single second of it all!
The banter in this is so freaking good, I can hear this in a fan crossover song released in 2018, the vocal/voice acting performance in both characters was done justice, almost really similar to the originals and what I've envisioned, and I absolutely love how both in character they were in the song, with Monika being nice and kind, but deceiving on the inside, while Flowey straight up doesn't reveals his intentions haha. I just, goddang I'm just so happy right now lmao
So yeah, thank you Brandon and Aries for the absolute stellar vocal performance, y'all did more than just an outstanding job!
I really can't stress this enough and I'll say it again, play DDLC and Undertale, they are one of the greatest games ever
And with that, I'll see y'all soon for next time!! Y'all do not wanna miss it...
Hey, Would You Mind Do A Vocal Version Of Indiscriminate Hunters With Kid Yuki, And This Vocal Commission Is Great, You Have My Respect
Mfw when no fight chorography potential
Thank you so much man for commisioning a banger vocal track 🙏
Let’s pray to god next time is Scourge Vs Albedo-
@@frostproductions248 I'm gonna confirm that it's not that
But it's one that I'm sure you're *absolutely* gonna love...
Flowey and Monika will never escape their games, and even if they do, windows defender or some other antivirus would make quick work of them
Fax
Big sadge for them, I guess.
Actually! They can..........it's just that they need sparkle and Mr puzzles and each other to escape!
I think what's interesting is that the lyrics seem to imply that Monika is reaching out to Flowey wanting him to help her create a brand new world where they can be happy. I think it shows the big contrast between the 2 characters. Flowey can't feel anything which causes him to do the terrible things he does in his game. Monika on the other hand, has feelings and strong emotions causing her to do the terrible things she does in her game. It shows why Flowey can't work together with Monika to make the paradise she wants and why they are fighting.
Wiz: Monika: The president of the literature club.
Boomstick: And Flowey: Undertale's most "Trusted" flower.
Wiz: We experienced characters that guide us in many videogames throughout the years, but their are those that pretend to be on our side just to get our guard down... And stab you in the back when you least expect it.
Boomstick: But these 2 are capable of doing more than just stabbing you. They can turn your peaceful life into a living nightmare... Complete with some 4th wall breaking for good measure. He's Wiz & I'm Boomstick.
Wiz: And it's our job to analyze their weapons, armor & skills to find out who will win a Death Battle!
Wiz: Lets take you back to when you just returned to work and you just want to relax and play a game
Boomstick: well I would say call of duty or halo
Wiz: ahem Well that was the case with a guy named mc who was just your advantage guy in real life until he played a game called ddlc when he met 4 cute and adorable girls
Boomstick: and one inpartilar was the club president and the powerful one in the group monika
Wiz : well it all started when she was met with mc and she had an observation with this boy and Is willing to kill for this boy
Boomstick: and kill oh ho ho she meant it
@@mioldsnurg Wiz: At first, DDLC looks like a normal dating simulation game. Talking to the girls, dating with them... You know, just an average dating sim with the same cliches.
Boomstick: That is, until you see that one of the girls was left on "hanging."
Wiz: that was monikas first victim sayori mcs friend next door mc knew sayori when they were younger but sayori had a giant crush on him
Boomstick: well monika didn't want that to happen so using her powerful abilitys she can hack the game as if sayori wasn't in the beginning but mc still remembers that tragic day damn if I had a girl she would be a demonic women who loves my hobbies
Wiz: yeah not gonna happen Boomstick
Boomstick: thanks buddy... wait what
@@mioldsnurg Wiz: Anyway, Sayori was just the first of Monika's victims. She knows that if she wants to have mc for herself, she needs to get rid off the competition... Literally.
Boomstick: So Monika is basically a yandere, but with 4th wall breaking awareness.
Wiz: That's... A pretty accurate description of what Monika actually is & at what she does to the player.
Monika: you got that right
Boomstick: oh come on wiz you just had to say 4th wall didn't you
Monika: relax im not here to kill you or anything
Wiz:oh hey Monika just in time we were just about to talk about you're victims mind telling the people at home who they are
Monika: sure I dont mind ill tell the other 2 the next girl I killed was yuri she maybe shy and a bit crazy but she was killed by stabing herself with a knife so I deleted her so mc won't be traumatised (glitch noices) ow
Boomstick: holy shit you ok you need a doctor
Monika: no I just need to write on my notebook
Wiz: I knew this was coming and it all has to do with Monikas file being deleted
Boomstick: wait are we going to talk about natsuiki
Omega Flowey vs Monika would actually be a pretty sick Death-Battle, both have COMPLETE control over their game, both can edit files of their world, and they are both really smart in the end, one is fighting for their desire for love, and the other is fighting for their desire for L.O.V.E.
These lyrics are *AMAZING!!!!* Outside of them singing, they’re actually interacting with each other too! Having dialogue! Genius!! Kudos to both you, Brandon & Aries!!!! Gives a great anime feeling & scary tone with the music & matchup
Huh didn't expect a track for this, I like how the lyrics feel more like the characters talking to each other. Almost as if they're aware that they are both in a song....
If you have seen Undertale, and doki doki literature club, then you should know that you're probably correct.
I can definitely see this version being used and Monika and Flowey singing this while fighting.
i can imagine flowey attacking monika rentlessly at the end then suddenly monika with a sad face deletes flowey and just starts a new game fixing everything arround her but still looking sad for flowey
Cool, but that would not happen
@@Arrowokeys12 ok whatever you say also thanks for the reply 👌
@@Arrowokeys12 It really would tho. I see your replies everywhere, Stop with the Flowey wank lol.
@@somedude5297I can say the same to you too, stop the monika wank, ""lol""
Flowey still wins, even the bad tiering system agrees
I swear, the vocal tracks never fail to surprise me, not that I'm complaining
Didn’t expect This Feeling Is Neutral to get a vocal version and given the tone of the track I was both very curious and very apprehensive that it’d turn out feeling quite weird.
In the end I’d say that it turned out decently. It wasn’t a surprise as good as Nightmare was but it still worked surprisingly well.
The lyrics, instead of doing what I was afraid of which was to try and « do their own thing », do the opposite play along with the instrumental which is something that really works in most cases. It’s one of those cases where the lyrics don’t fully « change » the song but more so play the role of another instrument in the mix. And while this does mean they’re a bit less memorable, it does play to the strengths of the song as it doesn’t overshadow the instrumental which is the clear star of the show for the song. So yeah, I’m really happy that it went this way, really qualitative lyrical writing and inclusion for sure.
Speaking of writing I didn’t really mention it because unlike with Nightmare (to take up the example I used earlier) I don’t have nearly as much knowledge of either character here but it’s still really interesting to hear the dynamic between both characters there. Both characters only want to have their ideals come to life but they know they can’t due to their special situations which causes one of them to take a very pessimistic view of things, accepting their current situation while the other conflicts with him as they want to improve their condition. Altho even with this conflictual standpoint they still know that they’re in a similar situation to the other.
And while of course it’s directly mentioned in the chorus I think that overall this entire situation is represented nicely with both characters’ lyrics and interactions. Hell, it’s rare to have straight up talk moments in songs and I think it works here on multiple levels as it just works in the song without sounding out of place but it also works for the characters as of course they’d break out of the song like they break the fourth wall in their games just to talk, it’s only natural for them. So that’s a really nice addition.
Overall, like I said at the start, this vocal version was not as impressive in terms of improvements as the other latest vocal track was in my opinion however, well first of all there’s definitely some personal bias there so don’t take it to heart, and second of all it doesn’t mean it’s bad as it’s actually really nice, fitting both characters (or at least the parts of them that I know) in addition to playing to the strengths of the song to improve it instead of trying to change it (which is somewhat ironic as two characters who are known for breaking the mold to stand out have the vocal version of their song instead be inline with the original version of it, just a slightly comical note) which is definitely for the better. Amazing work to both artists with this.
I think Monika would win. As much as UNDERTALE likes to shake our faith in the fourth wall, I don’t think anyone except _possibly_ Gaster ever quite catches on that they’re _literally_ in a video game.
Funny because Flowey has resistence to Existence Erasure, Monika's DELETE is just a Fly compared to Flowey
@@canaryedits900 He does?
@@spongeintheshoe He attempted to erase himself and succeed, but after he erased himself he came back, so Monika's Delete is useless to this one
@@canaryedits900 He didn’t erase himself, he killed himself.
@@spongeintheshoeIn the genocide run, He talks to you, he said he tried erasing himself and succeed, but later on he came back to his SAVEPOINT, Therefore, He resists it
Also Flowey has other wincons like turning DDLC Into his Story like he turned Undertale into Floweytale 🗿
If you say he can't do it on Other verses UT Files are not the same as DDLC Files, therefore Monika has no wincons
Story: Flowey has found himself in Doki Doki Literature Club and is stuck. Monika tries to befriend Flowey saying that it’s not all bad and they have each other. Flowey can’t make himself care for where he is but he can relate to Monika and realizes that they can do whatever they like in this empty world.
Damn, good story. You should write your own vs series or something
@@Lonk2976 yeah maybe I should
This is a fight that will have those two breaking the fourth wall more than each other.
I would have to say Monika because Monika can effect more of Doki Doki then what Flowley can do in Undertale but it would be a close fight though
Background and feats for both characters:
Flowey
Background
Real name: Asriel Dreemurr
Gender: Male
Occupation: Sentient flower, Prince of the monsters(formerly), God (after obtaining the six human SOULs)
Created by Alphys by injecting Determination into a bed of flowers that Asriel's dust spread on
Is (NOT SO) your best friend
Feats (Normal Flowey)
Friendliness pellets are able to easily kill Asgore
Is able to reset the timeline, destroying the last and replacing it with the new, albeit at the same place
Has lived nearly every possible outcome of the Undertale universe.
Implied to have killed Sans after countless times of being beaten by him.
Retains full knowledge of the protagonist's actions before and after loading a SAVE.
Feats (Omega Flowey)
Can casually create and destroy entire timelines through his SAVE and LOAD ability at any point in time
Can move backwards in time, even though he was fighting in an erased spacetime against Frisk.
Was (Briefly) immune to Frisk’s attacks
Practically possessed complete control of the game itself.
-Appeared to have manipulated the opening sequence
-Created a save of his own, named it "Floweytale", with his LV set at 9999. Entering it, there is literally nothing.
Shatters apart Frisk's save file (Thus destroying a Timeline), completely undoing all of their progress, and overpowers their already immensely high determination as well as their own ability to save and load.
-He then kills Frisk over, and over, and over, and over, and over.
Saw his plan through in the True Pacifist route with brutal success, and managed to get his original form as Asriel Dreemurr back.
Monika
Background
Age: 18
Height: 5’5
Occupation: President of a High School Literature Club (fictionally), Video Game character/virus (reality)
Hobbies: Hanging out with friends, Writing poetry, Participating in sports (fictionally), Attempting to win over the player's heart.
Twitter account: lilmonix3
Feats
Killed/deleted the files of all her friends
Able to alter the game's script to decide exactly what happens and what doesn't
Is aware of the fact that she's a character in the game.
She's also aware of the fact that the protagonist and the player are separate entities.
Is still aware when the game is turned off.
Is able to delete and add files to the games.
Erased the player's save file
Able to survive after being deleted
Can tell if the player is using Steam or another program, and if the player is recording.
Able to find the name of the computer's administrator, in an attempt to find the character's real name.
She can tell if you re-add her character file after she resets the game.
Does asriel dreemurr counts? Or just Omega?
You should probably add that Monika also erased the player's save.
@@TheTrueYesodGaming not much info to list
@@chaisonpeyton i mean asriel *Deleted* everytime line leaving just a single void when fighting frisk
@@chaisonpeyton plus his only weakness are his emotions, the reason why asriel lost was cause Frisk looked like Chara
I think Monica would win, because she can actually manipulate the code of the game (like how she manipulated the other girls stats in an attempt to make the Player love her) while Flowey's fourth wall abilities are limited to the save files.
So, theoretically, worst case scenario she could delete Flowey's character file, leaving her sad and alone again.
Best case scenario, she could edit his code to give Flowey his SOUL or just edit it so he turns back into Asriel, giving her someone "real" to talk to and giving Flowey/Asriel the ability to care again without a time limit.
Boomstick: Its time for a Broadway Musical!!!
Wiz: Its time to Analyze the Script, Cinematography, and Dance! For this awesome Musical Battle!!
*If Death Battle was a Musical Web Series where everyone is just trying to reason the other and the other retaliated and refuse to listen*
Out of all the tracks to get vocals. This was mot one I was expecting but honestly can’t say I’m surprised at the same time
The lyrics sound exactly as they should holy hell this is awesome
Lyrics:
MONIKA:
Welcome to the clubroom
My humble little abode
Sorry for the mess, I’ve been
Here since long ago
I’m sure we’ll get along fine
I feel it in my code
You’re stuck with little old me
But at least you’re not alone
FLOWEY:
I’m a rebel
I’m a monster
Lying in wait to
Drag you under
I’m so sick of this pretending
None of us have happy endings
Feel the chills
Cuz neither of us have a choice
You see it’s
Kill or killed
So which one will it be?
MONIKA:
Oh come now, that’s no way to look at things! This is gonna be fun! Look, I’ll show you!
BOTH:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
FLOWEY:
YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED
MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY
THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN
THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE
I’ve found a place to lie
Experienced as much as the eye could see
MONIKA:
And I found my paradise
Just you and me for all eternity
FLOWEY:
I’m a rebel
I’m a monster
Lying in wait to
Drag you under
What’s the point in acting friendly
I would kill you if you let me
All the fools
Keep running off to save their souls
But they can’t
Break the rules
There’s nowhere else to go
MONIKA:
Oh, have no fear
I am right beside you
Forevermore
Just let me guide you
BOTH:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
FLOWEY:
YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED
MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY
THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN
THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE
MONIKA (lowercase) FLOWEY (uppercase)
I’m coming back for you
THE ACTIONS EACH REPEAT
I’m coming back for you
DETERMINATION BLEEDS
I’m coming back for you
SEE WHAT’S BECOME OF ME
If it’s the last thing that I do
FLOWEY
Don’t tell me you want to actually build something here.
Being happy?
I haven’t felt anything for a LONG TIME.
What makes you think you can change that for either of us?
MONIKA:
Just for an instant
Look at my vision
We’ll make a world with
Nothing that we can’t do
FLOWEY:
Who are you kidding?
There’s nothing left here
It’s just a wasteland
We’re stuck in me and you
MONIKA:
What are you saying?
We have our freedom
This is a game where
We’re player one and two
FLOWEY:
Now that I think about it I see maybe you might have a point
We can build a castle this time no one’s here to break our toys
One day we can find a way to get out of here and rejoice
MONIKA:
It might not be like it was
FLOWEY:
But at least I have a choice!
MONIKA:
We’ll make a paradise
Just you and me for all of eternity
BOTH:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
Living life on repeat
Wouldn’t be so bad
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
Guess it’s time to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same way
Ah glad someone got some lyrics down. I had trouble understanding the uh screaming bits. So this is helpful if it's true.
Would be good if it identified which is Monika and which is Flowey, but it works overall.
@@hiddenflare6169the simp parts are Monika and the parts wishing death is Flowey
@@hiddenflare6169 I got you
And here I thought that Couples Night Out getting lyrics was a suprise
Hell it wouldn't suprise me if something like paradox perfected got lyrics
Haha I'm glad you got surprised. That's what I'm all about!
please let paradox perfected get lyrics it's so good.
i absolutely love that the characters from games with TONS of broadway style fansongs got a broadway style fight song
Wow wasn't expecting this, but I absolutely love it
everything about this track is well done from the music and the singing even that title is spot on!
Between this and the other recent vocal track that being nightmare, I think this just takes the cake
This is perfect really beautiful
Hell yes, I was waiting with bated breath to see if this would get a vocal track! It's so goddamn awesome I love the lyrics!
This is so catchy and the matchup is so good in this
This sounds great and fitting for both of them.
I love it when you put lyrics on these.
Bro can make an absolute banger out of ANYTHING I swear
I guess you could say they both thought they were in *slaps on shades* CONTROL ALT DELETE!
This is a reminder that you consciously thought, typed, and went through on sending this abomination of a UA-cam comment. Do better.
@@luiginumbers6268boomstick ahh comment 😂
yet another MU ost I didn't expect to get vocals and happens to be dope af.
Keep up the good work!
This is an extremely fun track. Thank you guys for making this. The track art is also really nice!
For the verdict, I suppose I'd say Monika. The winner of this fight would have to be through hax, since Monika doesn't like, "fight" fight, and killing her normally wouldn't do anything either. She has a 'higher' level of awareness than Flowey does, I feel, and she tampers with DDLC more than Flowey ever does Undertale. He does play around with mechanics of the game, but, she really messes around with the internals of it, so to speak. I think she has a greater degree of control, here, and Flowey does forget what's happened if killed. So, if she deletes him from the game, I don't think he'd have anything to come back with.
The reset, lol
The reset?
Can't Monika completely corrupt save files though?
I believe I remember her deleting the player's saves. Either that, or, she stopped them from loading to begin with. I can't remember exactly, but I'll rewatch a playthrough tonight to check.
From the looks of it he would have the six human souls , giving him his omega form
I love how consistently Flowey gets characterized in stuff like this with having an absolutely trashed voice or screaming in death metal style. This song tells such a fun story
This is definitely my favorite track you’ve ever made now cuz holy crap this is extremely good and emotional
The song feel like something out of a fight scene from a movie or a horror movie, where the protagonist getting chased by a woman stocker, and this music play
Is this just ending with Monika giving Flowey emotions by changing his file and having them be best friends? I can imagine that happening, especially if she can restore him to Asriel. And I like it.
I mean given that she was capable of manipulating Sayori's depressive emotions and Yuri's obsessive ones, it seems likely she has some level of emotional manipulation.
Yes! Lets Go! My Favorite Track getting vocals! 🌺 📒
Great remix for the music 🎶 it’s going to be great if it was an actual
Death Battle episode for season 10
Quite the unexpected vocal version, and I like the fact it sounds like they're singing against each other. And as per usual, more track ideas for volume 7.
Psychotic (Norman Bates vs Patrick Bateman) [Psycho vs American Psycho]
Absorbing the Power (Bagan vs Majin Buu) [Godzilla vs Dragon Ball]
Budding Sports (Flower vs Daisy) [BFDI vs Mario]
Subsonic Superpowers (Sonic vs The Flash) [Sonic vs DC]
Swords Go Flying (Kirito vs Kite) [Sword Art Online vs .hack]
sonic vs flash already exists tho
Sonic vs flash:speed force of a hedgehog
@@roast_beef I'm referring to their normal/original versions, Game Sonic and Barry Allen.
@@theCombine25343 that would just be a more boring version of the official deathbattle
though norman bates vs patrick bateman is so ridiculous that i kinda like it
@@theCombine25343 yea makes sense, weird to do a rematch between them
I still remember when someone tried to tell me Flowey (and also Asgore, Toriel, Undyne, and pretty much every character in-game) are complex multiversal in the comment section of the last one. Fun times!
I’ll never wake up this nightmare once again because that’s reality
Just realized the song ends with Flowey laughing.
Yeah, this makes sense.
This cover is something I never thought I needed until I got it.
One day, someone will make an music animation from this.
YES, I NEED THIS BATTLE, PLEASE. I NEED IT.
DBs where fighters have a heart to heart should be special. I would accept this being one of them, it would be great, but the fact that Aquaman vs Spongebob is one too makes me a bit apathetic about how special it would be.
I feel like this would be a fake-out heart to heart. Everything Monika does is for love, and Flowey can’t feel emotion. Also wouldn’t be the first time Flowey fakes being willing to do things his enemy's way just to get the strength he needs to destroy them, stab them in the back and call them an idiot.
Always been one of my favorite matchups! Rooting Flowey, betting Monika.
Flowey unironically negs Monika and it's not even close
My mans Cooked, baked, grilled, boiled and fried all at once 🔥🔥🔥
i knew this was going to have a some moment a Vocal Version , cool btw
Flowey has some neat tricks, but he doesn't have the level of control that monika does
Personally this matchup's winner is determined by whether it takes place in DDLC or Undertale's game world IMO
No shit? You'd have to composite them.
@@sptflcrw8583 At that point it's just kinda a "Who can instantly kill the other faster", this match works better as a song than a fight
@@cronch9136 not really. They both resist each other's insta kills. It's actually extremely close
@@sptflcrw8583 how would monika survive flowey's attack?
Like
Monika's hacking abilities are extremely OP,but besides that they're just a normal human
I doubt they'd even have time to react in the first place
@@thatoneundertalefanatic they survive having their character file destroyed
Holy shit brandon and aries you knocked it out of the damn park and aries new person welcome to the channel and comunnity👍
This is just a really cool interaction is what lyrics felt like.
I like this song
Death Battle picks each character from the peak of their potential. For Flowey, wouldn't that mean his true form as Asriel?
Uh, maybe? They don't HAVE to if they don't want to
What do you mean? Those are the Death Battle rules.
@@Ponera-Sama In a way yes, but Brandon Yates vids isn't exclusively death battle, and Flowey compares to Monika better then Asriel....
Yes the goat and the flower are kinda the same character, but the idea is the same.
I think this is specifically Flowey the Flower
But Flowey is Asriel, and when Flowey turns back into Asriel is when he's at the peak of his potential
Monika
+ is potentially faster
+ can see the files
- is not stronger can only manipulate her game
- has a limited amount of ability’s
- less experienced in battle
Flowey
+ can manage to turn into
Asriel dreamer or omega Flowey
+ has unlimited power in his omega and dreamer form
+ is stronger
+ can cancel any attempt of monika Deleting him
+ more experienced
+ can attack monikas soul
- is slower in base form
A few things, his power as omega is definitely not “unlimited”. He’s powerful sure but far from anything like that as they’ve established clear limits.
Has Flowey ever shown any ability to resists deletion?
@@Its_a_Phaze no but I think he could cancel attempts of him being deleted
@@theamarecreator4110 then it’s best to watch “possibly”. If you’re just going off of what you think with no backing that’s not really relevant.
Flowey hasn’t shown any sign of being able to survive getting deleted but Monika has.
@@Its_a_Phaze even if he can’t he can successfully kill monika
@@theamarecreator4110 how? What’re his wincons?
Wiz: Flowey, the cute-but-deadly flower of Undertale
Boomstick: And Monika, the lovesick club president of Doki Doki Literature Club
Wiz: One wants you dead and the other wants to be your be your lover, whether you like it or not. So what could happen if we put them in the same room?
Boomstick: Let's stop slacking and find out! He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick,
Wiz: And it's our job to analyse their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win... a Death Battle.
I really like this one😁😊 nice job👏👍
This would be tricky because monika has shown in her game that the only way to kill her is to delete her entire code
But flowey has shown he is somewhat capable of frisks determination from both azreal dreamer or omega flowey both needing the six human souls to even activate, flowey could maybe trap her in a infinite loop of death with omega flowey or reset the timeline with azreal dreamer. Also monika has never shown any fighting abilities in her game while flowey has in each route, this would be a tricky battle to determine, I’d put my money on flowey because in the omega flowey boss battle he destroys the players save, he is also able to load and save the battle, this shows that flowey is able to at least corrupt code or completely delete it, while monika could do the same I highly doubt this because she only does her deletion on people she deems to be competition for “senpai” and even then she is not immune from being tricked, so I think flowey has a better shot at winning then monika
flowey doesn't have the power to mess with files,
the way the save works in the undertale world is that the person with the most determination in the underground gets control over the save and creates a new save file, the player's save file is called file 09 while flowey's is called file 08, when flowey gets the 6 human soul he gets control over the save and has access to all the previous human's save file but he cannot touch your save file, he does claim thta he deleted it at the begining of the fight but when you defeat him he admit he just lied and you can just reload to do pacifist or something
in a real fight, if monika could just delete all code pertaining to flowey or she could just delete file 08 which contain all of flowey's memories
Pretty good, never expected something like this would be made...especially with such quality.
Amazing job to the both of you!
Amazing track but Flowey curbstomps so hard he destroys the entire concept of difficulty along with all of Monika’s atoms
Can't believe Flowey unironically bodies Monika in this fight
¿I don't know why I imagined Flowey and Monika singing and fighting at the same time like it was a Disney musical?🤔😂👍🎵💥
Let’s see who would win between these two player-obsessed world destroyers!
Flowey
Power: Can fight various other monsters, but has notably struggled against Sans and Asgore. Is seen capable of nearly one-shotting Frisk, who has similar Determination.
Speed: Has consistently fought Frisk, who has varying levels of speed (such as dodging light-based beams from Gaster Blasters, literal words that could scale to the speed of sound from the Annoying Dog, and has outran the Hyper Goner attack, which temporarily erased the timeline.)
Offensive Abilities: Can target a person's SOUL, and at higher levels of Determination (not just by absorbing SOULs), he can manipulate time and space. Can nullify another person's ability to manipulate time and space (as seen against Frisk, though the opposite is also possible.) Known to break the fourth wall.
Defensive Abilities: Can remember what happens after a RESET (though not after a TRUE RESET).
Other Abilities: Can move around through holes/tunnels seemingly anywhere.
Monika
Power: Isn't really known for her physical prowess, as her and her friends were harmed as easily as any human.
Speed: Nothing really notable, though she is able to stop, rewind, and fast forward time.
Offensive Abilities: Can erase others from the game, change their code, induce conditions on people, and so on. Can easily break through the fourth wall.
Defensive Abilities: Can resist being erased herself, has backup files for herself, and even after the whole game was deleted, she was able to eventually come back and start talking on Twitter. She was able to sit through an entire eternity without any need for food, and even remained sane.
Other Abilities: Can fade into areas she wasn't before, move in stopped time, and even through several other medias.
Conclusion
Power: Flowey (Even the weakest of Flowey's forms exceeds what Monika can do.)
Speed: Flowey (Has reacted to Frisk's attempts at attacks or actions, who has avoided several high-speed attacks before, where Monika has no such experience outside of time manipulation.)
Offensive Abilities: Monika/Tie (Monika can more consistently affect the world around her with her very similar abilities, though Flowey at his best is capable of doing the same. Neither can predict the other, as neither are from the same game, and work somewhat independent from their games. The only issue is the abilities _literally_ cancelling each other out like they have before when both Frisk and Flowey attempted against each other.)
Defensive Abilities: Tie (Flowey can resist Monika's attempts at manipulating time, and even resetting the game wouldn't remove Flowey's memories. The same can be said for Monika, however, as she has done the same, and has prevented others from using certain abilities like fast forwarding. Neither can remove the other from the game in a way that matters.)
Other Abilities: Tie (Essentially just teleportation and fourth wall breaking.)
Winner: uhhhhhhhh
Flowey is entirely capable of blitzing Monika on sight, but Monika has backup files for herself, and can contest Flowey in abilities. The only worth while ability that Monika has that _might_ work is her ability to change the code of other characters or people, though Flowey's Determination can cancel the power out. She's likely to be at her full power quicker than Flowey is, though his strength and durability, especially with his forms, would be insurmountable without changing her own "stats" to match Flowey.
The _biggest_ issue is the fact that neither of them can traditionally erase the other. Both have erased characters and the entire game worlds and survived, and neither truly have a "soul", so neither could bypass each others' physical forms to attack anything underneath. The most ironic part of this fight.. is that they _actually have to fight to win._ Then what's the issue?
*Neither of them can actually kill the other.*
Flowey doesn't have a SOUL, and works independently from his/her game(s). Even if Monika had something she _could_ erase, Flowey would be able to resist it. Monika doesn't have a soul either, and erasing her files has _never_ worked, as she was still able to affect the game in ways and can still potentially show up.
And even if we assume them using fisticuffs, ignoring any stat buffing for either of them, even though Flowey has the traditional strength and durability advantage, Monika still can't be killed. She can be as maimed as a pincushion, and would still be able to use her body just fine. Even if she was burned to a crisp or her body completely rid of, she'd _still be around._ While she'd be severely weakened, Flowey would still have to either defend against it indefinitely or leave somehow. Neither are plausible, as Monika is better known for her mental stability, stamina, and fourth wall awareness and manipulation. She likely wouldn't be able to hurt Flowey, but Flowey wouldn't be able to finish her, either.
It's also possible that Monika could outdo Flowey's Determination and erase him anyways, but he has a similar case to Monika, where he will continue to exist anyways, though more incorporeal than even Monika herself. While this is a more traditional form of death and easier to consider a victory, that's also assuming a _somehow_ weakened Flowey, with lesser Determination. It's also entirely possible that Flowey could have more Determination than Monika, so equalized will is essentially required, as it's impossible to really measure how "determined" each of them are. Even if we consider prep time, while Monika would learn that she could just wait out Flowey's focus, Flowey would learn to rush Monika, who could just have an unlimited amount of backups, for all we know... which Flowey could erase, though this is iffy.
In short, there's _so many factors_ that could be in play, that the fight could _literally_ go on forever. It literally just depends on who has the upper hand. Does Flowey learn about her backups, erase them, and then finish her off? Or does Monika just have too many backups?
Well, with the speed advantage, as well as Determination nullifying Monika's similar powers, it's possible that, with time, Monika's backups and files would be gone in a flash, and Flowey would be the victor. If will was equal, Flowey would still win from physical advantage.
Monika just wrote herself into a bed of flowers.
Flowey's Resistence to Existence Erasure go brrr 🗿🗿🗿
Flowey attempted to erase himself many times and yet he came back after getting erased, also Monika has no physical feats, this means she dies at every move what flowey made
Brandon and Aries, you both are MLG and awesome!
Call me Biased whatever you want but Monika is dying very hard on this one
Monika is just baseline universal, due to the Infinite choice stated, Monika deleted the Doki Doki Literature Club game, which has "infinite choices" Which while doing so, she even confirmed that doesn't pass anymore. Which is just Baseline Universal by Default with no statements
Monika even has a canon Twitter account and outside sources. she can warp reality so hard she added real life photoshopped eyes onto yuri, and has haxes to appear in the description of the steam game and on the official website.
And therefore, Monika completely LACKS a Strength, Speed and Durability feats, in physical she's just an average human and is a fodder without her powers, therfore she is a glass canon
On the other hand, Flowey, undertale runs off of a type 1 multiverse which means a timeline is created with every choice you do and dont make, which branches out to an infinite amount of timelines/universes, so basically if one can destroy 1 full timeline, theyre destroying an infinite amount of timelines. To low ball this Files are entire full timelines which OF can load at anytime, theough sans' in fight statements we have confirmation that when someone loads, they are ending a timeline and jumping to another one in the same scenario, d4c type of shit. So anyone who can load, already scales to full timelines, bare minimum through hax. In the case for OF, this is a bit different because unlike a being with the determination soul, who loads through save points, OF is omnipresent through the infinite amount of timelines where OF is OF, meaning OF is, in a way of words, killing frisk through timelines. And because OF is omnipresent, he scales to the amount of timelines that he is omnipresent in, meaning an infinite amount of them, and even moreso since this is only refering to 1 file, OF has access to 6 of them.
Meaning OF is 6 times infinite multiversal, and all of the high tiers scale to or below him, frisk(made OF's hp 0 with help, even with help, it does not matter as nothing implies OF's drops below infinite multiversal, it just implies that it goes down an unquantifiable amount), GOH azzy(im not having the debate of GOH azzy vs OF, just know that azzy's stats are infinite in relation to frisk/OF, who are bare minimum 4-D, boom infinite 4-D power which is 2-A), sans(its just his durability negation, dont get it twisted, this is only because flowey states that before frisk fell, that he did every possible situation, meaning kill everyone, spare everyone, steal the human souls and kill everyone, etc, flowey and sans also implies several times through each respective dialougue that they know each other before frisk fell and sans is the ONLY one, unphased by floweys attack, along with flowey's distain for sans, you can tell they fought before through implication), chara(scales to sans and his dura neg, and one shotted a full timeline by themself)
Before you say "B-BuT mONiKa CaN dElEtE fLoWeY"
Good point, but Flowey erased himself and came back later, meaning he resists Existence Erasure
So yeah, Flowey Wins No Concept - Negative Diff
Finally someone pointing things out, All they can say Monika can DELETE Flowey, and yet Flowey tried it himself and yet failed, so Monika's delete isn't gonna sh1t on Flowey
Fun fact, I can get the undertale cosmology to high hyperversal (no, not from the quantum physics book, that one is trash, but there's actually quite many other args for high hyper).
But yeah, multi+ is still overkill.
And Flowey has all the hax Monika has + more anyway 💀
Flowey said he would "follow in your footsteps and erase himself from existence". When talking about why Chara climbed in the mountain in the pacifist route he says this "I know why Chara climbed the mountain.
It wasn't for a very happy reason." For this to work we have to believe Chara jumping down the mountain was somehow going to delete them from existence, Flowey also never shows that he has any way to delete something.
He also says he brought himself to the *edge of death* again and again to experiment, not "erased myself from existence" the edge of death. There's no reason to assume Flowey's saying he was going to erase himself was literal.
@@nicolewhite3157 That's still not stopping Flowey from Humiliating Monika so hard, Flowey himself has shown to be capable of reshaping the world which means he could just turn DDLC into his world which can make Monika lose control
Also Monika cries at 3D while Flowey laughs at 4D
SAVE and LOAD are very straightforward abilities and are somewhat simple to explain. Anytime a DETERMINATION user feels more determined than normal, they can "SAVE" those points in time, just like a regular videogame, and their SAVE FILE, as seen in the pics below, represents their control over the current timeline
LOADING is something common within video games, which is simply LOADING back to a SAVE POINT. You saved at "Point A", but you are currently at "Point B". LOADING back to "Point A" simply brings you back to that point, travelling to different timelines and creating different branches. Or, to put it simply, time travel. A DETERMINATION user can LOAD back usually after they die if they feel determined to come back, and if they simply feel like it in order to re-do something, Asriel considers save files as Timelines, Timeline = 4D
Oh did i forgot to mention that Monika completely lacks a Physical and Speed feat? Which means Flowey can blitz her anytime he wants
@@nicolewhite3157 Not going to read all that, but I just want to say that he still can't be erased because of the reset button anyway.
Even if he can be, still stomps Monika even on base.
Not my preferred for Monika but omfg this goes so hard. It feels like a musical. Please someone make a karaoke version of this song lol.
EDIT: Fine. I’ll do it myself.
Btw if you’re curious, these are my preferred for Monika:
JOHN_DEV (No Players Online)
Binky Barnes (You’ve Gotta Be Kidding!)
Side note but I really like Floweys voice
I actually really like this one… out of every comm this is my favorite
Welp, who else didn't except for this to get vocals?
The odd thing about this fight is that Monika unironically wins.
It's not because Monika can fight or scales anywhere close in power compared to Flowey, she just simply has unholy levels of hacks. Flowey can manipulate save data, but Monika can outright erase people.
I can see this fight ending in two ways. Possibility one is a tie, Monika doesn't want to kill Flowey, and Flowey always wants to kill her. But he has no real way to permanently get rid of her since Monika has survived complete erasure before.
Possibility two, the more realistic answer by Death Battle's Logic, is Monika would end up being forced into a situation where she ends up erasing Flowey's data after realizing she can't get through to him and make peace.
Monika's hax is inverse.
Flowey scales incredibley higher.
Monika does not bypass reset
Flowey killed Frisk even though she can survive existence erasure in the omega flowey bossfight and destroyed her files, Monika having resistance to existence erasure is so fodder, even Flowey has it.
The only way it can go is Flowey demolishing her unless he wants to mess around and keeps reseting the timeline to demolish her billions of times over or even forever, either that or just one shoot her.
Flowey literally negs the verse.
Flowey resists Existence Erasure so Monika's "DeLeTe" is just a fly compared to flowey
So did someone actually deleted Flowey's script and see if undertale still plays normally?
@@xavex64 Flowey himself stated he tried erasing himself and he still came back, even if he doesn't resist Monika still gets blitzed very hard
@@canaryedits900
I mean the best he did was trying to off himself, but his self preservation outdone it. Suicide by own hand is kinda hard unless used a weapon that can ensure. However Frisk definitely can perma kill him, so I don't see why Monika who can delete the character's existence, appearance, personality, and etc.
In these worlds it's kill or be killed.
I'd like to imagine at the end it's Asriel erasing Monika via reality warping but then Asriel feels his HP drop and starts glitching. It's then revealed that Monika is completely changing his files like she did to the other girls, Asriel in a panic questions how Monika is still alive.
She then explains that someone she cared about deleted her files before and how even after being completely erased, she was still able to completely warp reality to save the Player. As Asriel glitches out of existence you see Monika's hands close on where Asriel was as it pans out to the "Just Monika" pose
@Is that Salamander?
so does monika just have no limits at all and can beat anyone then?
@@chongwillson972 Imma be completely honest with you, I don't know, all I know is she's busted unironically 💀
@@isthatsalamander4040
fuck it
, annoying dog from undertale deletes her game
@@isthatsalamander4040, and yet gets shitstomped by JOHN_DEV lmao.
Monika Wins: KO!
Boomstick: Guess even a visual novel character can have Determination.
Wiz: Honestly, this was one of the most difficult battles to judge. Much like back with Pinkie Pie and Deadpool, both Monika and Flowey have awareness of what lies beyond the Fourth Wall.
Boomstick: Yeah, but unlike those two knuckleheads, at least this time we can have a definitive winner. Monika may be friendly, but she does know when someone has mental issues. And if her means of dealing with the issues of the other members of the Literature Club are anything to go by, she can be...uh...pretty extreme in fixing the problem.
Wiz: By that same token Monika's intelligence and ability to fully alter game code gave her a much bigger advantage than Flowey, since while he can manipulate the game's reset button, he can't outright delete game characters. And even then, Flowey's ability to reset a fight has been overcome by players who do the exact same thing.
Boomstick: Sure, Monika would have a tough fight going up against Flowey. She's a female love interest in a visual novel while he's a boss in an RPG. But that doesn't mean Flowey could actually get rid of Monika permanently. The only way to erase Monika is to literally delete her data from the game files, something Flowey doesn't have the ability to do.
Wiz: In the end Flowey's lack of proper determination, coupled with an inferior code manipulation ability, spelled his end.
Boomstick: He really should have read the situation better. What?
Wiz: That was your most subtle pun yet.
Boomstick: I may not be as smart as you, Wiz, but I am still a certified genius. I can do subtle.
Wiz: The winner is Monika.
Neat matchup, although Monika stomps
Flowey Negs that Ai Girlfriend no concept of diff
@@canaryedits900 Flowey doesn't have any resistances to Monika's erasure hax and has nothing to permanently put her down, as she can survive her own said erasure attacks.
@@TheSuperGoober Flowey could rewrite her game like he did on Undertale, + Monika in physical is a fodder
@@canaryedits900Monika has resistances to plot manipulation and would survive that, as she was able to resist when the game re-wrote the plot of the main story part of the game after she deleted Sayori, keeping her memories.
Besides she can do the same thing to Flowey, even more so given Flowey hasn't shown to be able to resist any of her abilities. Physical stats are kinda useless here, mentioning them isn't worth while
@@TheSuperGoober And so does flowey, also that's more like Acausality Type 1 rather than Plot Manipulation which is rendered immune to changes in the past and standard temporal paradoxes
Also Monika's Physical Feat is garbo, any single attack would kill her in undertale, also physical feats are important at some times, like Monika who lacks a combat experience, also The most determined person can SAVE a point in time and LOAD back to it, using the SAVE POINT heals them, can LOAD back even if they are erased from existence which means Flowey could come back if Monika deletes him
AMV Plan
Bill Cipher & Makima - The Feeling Is Neutral (Brandon Yates & Aries Shepard Vocal Version) (Full Version)
Tagline: "Gravity Falls & Chainsaw Man's Evil Manipulators Of Stanford Pines & Denji Battle Each Other With Flowey VS Monika's Commission Track."
Bill Cipher VS Makima (Gravity Falls VS Chainsaw Man) | The Feeling Is Neutral AMV
Cast
Bill Cipher: Alex Hirsch/Takahide Adachi
Makima: Suzie Yeung/Tōmōri Kūsūnōki
Weird Control (Bill Cipher VS Makima) [Gravity Falls VS Chainsaw Man]
Lyrics
Makima:
Welcome to the clubroom
My humble little abode
Sorry for the mess, I’ve been
Here since long ago
I’m sure we’ll get along fine
I feel it in my code
You’re stuck with little old me
But at least you’re not alone
Bill Cipher:
I’m a rebel
I’m a monster
Lying in wait to
Drag you under
I’m so sick of this pretending
None of us have happy endings
Feel the chills
Cuz neither of us have a choice
You see it’s
Kill or killed
So which one will it be?
MAKIMA:
Oh come now, that’s no way to look at things! This is gonna be fun! Look, I’ll show you!
Both:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
Bill Cipher:
YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED
MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY
THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN
THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE
Bill Cipher:
I’ve found a place to lie
Experienced as much as the eye could see
Makima:
And I found my paradise
Just you and me for all eternity
Bill Cipher:
I’m a rebel
I’m a monster
Lying in wait to
Drag you under
What’s the point in acting friendly
I would kill you if you let me
All the fools
Keep running off to save their souls
But they can’t
Break the rules
There’s nowhere else to go
Makima:
Oh, have no fear
I am right beside you
Forevermore
Just let me guide you
Both:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
BILL CIPHER:
YOU EXIST TO BE DESTROYED
MERCY CANNOT LEAD TO JOY
THERE’S NOWHERE FOR YOU TO RUN
THEY CANNOT HEAR YOUR VOICE
Makima:
I’m coming back for you
Bill Cipher:
THE ACTIONS EACH REPEAT
Makima:
I’m coming back for you
Bill Cipher:
DETERMINATION BLEEDS
Makima:
I’m coming back for you
Bill Cipher:
SEE WHAT’S BECOME OF ME
Makima:
If it’s the last thing that I do
Bill Cipher:
Don’t tell me you want to actually build something here.
Being happy?
I haven’t felt anything for a LONG TIME.
What makes you think you can change that for either of us?
Makima:
Just for an instant
Look at my vision
We’ll make a world with
Nothing that we can’t do
Bill Cipher:
Who are you kidding?
There’s nothing left here
It’s just a wasteland
We’re stuck in me and you
Makima:
What are you saying?
We have our freedom
This is a game where
We’re player one and two
Bill Cipher:
Now that I think about it I see maybe you might have a point
We can build a castle this time no one’s here to break our toys
One day we can find a way to get out of here and rejoice
Makima:
It might not be like it was
Bill Cipher:
But at least I have a choice!
Makima:
We’ll make a paradise
Just you and me for all of eternity
Both:
Living life on repeat
Would it be so bad?
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
That’s no way
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same
Living life on repeat
Wouldn’t be so bad
Stick it out in the game and write the routes we never had
Every save is empty
Guess it’s time to play
We don’t see eye to eye but I’m sure you feel the same way
Disney VS Hitotsubashi Group
Cartoon VS Anime/Manga
Brandon Yates (Reprised) As Bill Cipher
Aries Shepard As Makima
#BrandonYates
#AriesShepard
#GravityFalls
#ChainsawMan
#BillCipher
#Makima
Makima: "Oh, Come Now, That's No Way To Look At Things, This Is Gonna Be Fun, Look, I'll Show You."
Bill Cipher: "Don't Tell Me You Actually Want To Build Something Here, Being Happy?, I Haven't Felt Anything For A Long Time!, What's Makes You Think You Can Change That For Either Of Us."
Song Performed By Brandon Yates Featuring Aries Shepard
Bill Cipher & Gravity Falls Was Owned By Disney
Makima & Chainsaw Man Was Owned By Tatsuki Fujimoto
I think they’ll be best friends because of this song their both singing in a duet but if you want a fight analysis get this comment at twenty likes for it
*Philosopher of Aja*
The Father vs Ultimate Kars
[Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]
Pillar of philosophy/father of evolution/truth of the ultimate being
Thats, actually a fairly close fight. Both have regen, both strongest feats are compared to the sun, and both are the pinnacle of humanities evolution
@@socialaccount0000 Hamon vs Alchemy would be an interesting interaction to see as well~
Hey I think a soundtrack between Axel (Streets of rage) vs Cody (Final fight/Street Fighter) would be an awesome 8 bit track lol
I already have both an instrumental and vocal version of a track between Axel and Cody - The Fight Rages On, if I remember the name right.
Wait, is this confirmation that Flowey vs. Monika is gonna happen in DB?
I am surprised this one got a vocal track. I love it.
Oh boy its here😊
The feeling definitely was neutral by the end. Lol