Hey cory, i have a Question would it be an Idea to Make Bio kits (Bio Filter material, Bacteria etc.) And starter medic kits So its easier for people that are startes to Find out what they need For serten Things like Standard treatment stuff for Fish sicknesses etc. (Btw sorry for my bad english 😅 Im dutch(
Cory, one thing that differentiates your videos from others I watch on the hobby, is that after watching yours I end up making changes to my tanks. Thank you very much. You make a difference.
The fact he educated his audience instead of pushing products is freshing plus the products he makes he's tested himself to be to a standard which he approves of
As a retired electronics engineer, I can tell you the reason heaters fail is because they are designed wrong. With the correct design, the heater can last decades. It really wouldn't cost that much more to do it right. The current design hooks up the heating elements directly to the mains (Constant Voltage Source). They need to design it so the heating elements connect to a Constant Current Source. That way the heater can turn on and off thousands of times a day without the destructive current surges through the heating elements when it turns on. If the heater detects a low flow condition the electronics can throttle back the current to the heating elements. Another design flaw of most heaters is the electronics are in the same tube that the heating elements are, subjecting the electronics to high temperatures. High heat is the enemy of electronics. The designs that use a separate controller out side of the tank are much better.
Couldn't agree more and the heater manufacturers know this too. That's why they will never implement such a design because then they couldn't sell you another one when their flawed design fails. I'm not telling you anything you dont already know ;)
How long does a tmperature sensor last when seperated from teh heat source? I have one of the rare filters with a seperated system like you suggest, but the temperature sensor broke (physical force). I think it is a pt100 because these seem to be very common and I will replace it with such a sensor.
I believe the titanium heaters are designed this way. The only problem I've had with them is the temp probes going bad. But at the same time I've had old glass heaters last over 15 years.
A warning to everyone who keep large fish concerning heaters. I had a 75 gallon tank with two Oscars, and as anyone who has kept Oscars know they can be rowdy fish. I went to feed them one day and noticed something shiny in the bottom of the tank. Reached in to take it out and it was the glass case from the heater. I immediately went to remove the remains of the heater from the tank, but it wasn't there. I found it lying behind the tank on the wooden tank stand, it had been there, still running, and had burnt the wood, I mean a serious deep charred spot. I'm just lucky my house didn't catch fire. So anyone with large fish capable of doing this beware, take precautions to avoid this happening. Myself, I quit using heaters altogether.
@@seane1516 Appreciate it, that was years ago however. I only have small fish now. I love Oscars but I got tired of not being able to have plants or much decoration in my tank. Plus, mine lived like 15 years, that was a long time with a bare tank.
Can you tell me how you keep your tanks warm without a heater? They do give me a lot of anxiety. But if I ever forget to plug them in after a water change, my water can go down to 62!
I've always put the heater right next to the output of my canister filter. Just makes sense to push the warmer water to the side that doesnt have a heater. Great information for people in the hobby struggling to manage proper water.
"Retain as much heat as you can first" was the approach I've applied to my aquarium, which is currently in my basement. My basement is only semi-finished, so only semi-insulated. At least it's heated. So to keep as much heat as possible, the outside back and one end are covered with styrofoam sheets, and I usually have towels laying on top of my lid (which doubles to keep dust out). The heating I use is an under-gravel heating cable.
My personal experience is that once i started going with Eheim (Jäger) i haven't had a failed heater for over 10 years. They are all still going strong. Previously i had broken heaters every year.
Best fish keeping advice on UA-cam, as always. Practical, common sense, honest. If everyone ran their business like Cory the world would be such a nicer and easier place.
I'd love to see a heater developed by Aquatium Co-OP. The sponge filters you have are great, I'd imagine anything you guys produce would be cost effective and well made.
Tbh sponge filters are almost failproof and definitely dropshipped from China but yes, Cory would do great with sales of a heater of his own with his branding behind it
@@lukas______ Not too fast. My last sponge filter I purchased had great bubbles and air flow, but would not suck in anything. I replace it with a CoOp and voila!
Problem is, you'd need to re-invent the wheel on these or find existing things to combine into one thing... that are already manufactured. They'd just end up selling off brand stuff.
Nice job with the explanation here Cory. It would definitely be nice to have a heater with a heating curve, instead of a hard-set temperature to stick to.
Thank you for this video. I bought the new Sera heater and it's by far better than everything I've used in over 20 years. It's strong, with fish protection and perfectly stable with flow in the fish tank and a 2 thirds open top tank. Its power is the double of the gallons I have. And the weather is quite fluctuating here in Portugal during the winter. Thank you!
As someone from the reptile keeping hobby just getting into keeping Australian red claw I’m so thankful for having a few different types of thermostats meant for heat mats/cables/lights etc, makes life 10 times easier. They can be a bit pricey though that’s the only problem.
I have two small heaters in my 40 gl. Not by choice, but because I upgraded my tank to a bigger size and I used the heaters from the two smaller tanks. Now I find out that it is a good idea.
Be careful if the manufacturer Does not warranty the heater that long, your looking at a fire hazard, hazard to your tank, fluctuations in temperature can harm fish sensitive to temperature change. Please for the sake of the hobbie, your life, the life of your fish. Get a new heater!!!!!! Immediately. Test your tank water with more than one thermometer. Check digital against glass thermometer. Always have a way to verify your numbers. Also Never assume a heater is good, always have. A back up waiting to throw in the tank. Check to see if you are having fluctuations In temp with that old heater your using, if you care about your fish, that are living breathing ANIMALS, stop treating them like there a Peasant, they are as important as our cats or dogs.
You’ve been reading my rants! (Maybe) I love these “how to properly use your equipment” videos. I always put my heaters (which are E. Jager) either next to the filter intake or output, horizontal and below water change level. And set them to winter water temps for the fishes natural habitat. (Shrimp don’t need a heater for ex) Ha ha ha... I use a lot of 50w & 75w heaters in the house and don’t go to 100w except for the garage tanks with bigger tanks (unheated garage). I also add rigid insulation to the back of my tanks.
When i experimented with insulating tanks, I find it didn't help as much as I would have liked. A glass top did help a lot though. Eliminating super cold air near the tanks helps as well.
Good discussion. I use heater controllers on all my tanks and set with a variance of +/- 2 degrees Fahrenheit. Less on/off cycles. Also use smaller than recommended heaters on most tanks and they heat just fine. 25w on 10 gal, 50 watt on 20 gal, etc. I’ve had 5 of the cobalt neo-therm heaters and all but one has failed.
Aquarium Co-Op Cory, I purchased two when they first came out (2014?). They both failed and were replaced by Cobalt in 2016 or 2017 before the warranty expired. I had also purchased an additional Neo-therm. The new heater and the two replacements were acquired after Cobalt “fixed” the issue which caused early production heaters to explode/crack. Only have one still working. Most of them failed by sticking “On”. Only one had a cracked housing.
I've got a variety of heaters and I haven't lost one yet (aside from those crappy "Always On" Betta tank ones). Granted, my heaters live beside my filter's outflow, might account for a lot of my "luck"... I love the idea that other commenters have mentioned of putting them on a timer so there is some fluctuation like there is in nature, your other suggestions are certainly going to help me and others out as well.
After watching this video I went and checked all my heaters to discover that one of them had stopped working. The temperature had dropped from 27 down to 23. Thanks Cory for saving all my fish!!
Love what you guys bring to the hobby! You remind me of brs but for fresh water. Temp controllers and exchangeable parts are the future of heaters with a way to cut power if temp exceeds a certain value.
Thanks for the tips, I actually tipped mine because I noticed pet stores did this so I copied it, love your videos, lean a lot for a beginner, I'm just disappointed I cant buy anything from Aquarium Co Op, you don't mail to Canada. Keep up with these great shows. Thanks again.
Hey! Something I was actually doing right all these years! I keep my house cooler due to health issues, so my tropical tanks have always had heaters. I place them so they are either under the water return of the filter, or there is an air stone/bar under them, figuring that would help circulate the warmed water better than just sticking the heater in the corner 'out of the way'. Once the fully submersible heaters came in, I was mounting them horizontally on the center back of the tank, and again running air directly beneath them. Maybe why view only had one heater not last longer than five years (and that because it got dropped on the floor). Not trying to blow my own horn here; it's just nice to find out I was doing it right. Thanks, Cory!
Way back in College I worked for an aquarium leasing/maintenance outfit. They always ran two heaters of different wattage. The lower-wattage heater did the bulk of the work. The higher-wattage heater was set a degree lower, so it only kicked on as supplement/backup. Tank being a degree under norm, indicated primary heater failure. Long-term strategy, but I worked on many 15-20yo aquariums with even glass catfish that old living in 'em, so I always run tandem heaters. If one should fail, Murphy's Law says it's gonna happen when I'm on vacation. Edit: I've never had a heater stick on since I was a kid with a cheapo Penn-Plax, lol.
14:45 Having worked at, and owned, aquarium leasing/maintenance businesses, the last thing we want is to charge a customer for *any* failed part. Different economics from an aquarium store entirely. When I liquidated, I kept my heaters, I have a bunch of green ebo's and those little brown ones I can't think of the brand, but never failed either. Pry 'em from my cold, dead fingers lol.
Great video. I ended up with a 200w heater for a 75g. I put a heater on each end of the aquarium so it’s already got a back up. My left heater is the main heater, the right side is the back up. So far so good. I personally went with a smaller heater for longer run cycles.
I have learned a lot from trial and error, and your channel. I've removed heaters from the two aquariums that I have since freshwater tanks don't really need them; as long as your place is heated and a steady room temperature.
WOW this has been the best put together information about heaters and how they work and why they fail.... EVER!! Thank you. You have just changed my entire thinking on heating my aquariums.
I keep my house a balmy 64 day/61 night. There is no heater that can keep my tank at 78...I created a wrap for the aquarium re-using bubble sheets, a pillow case and twill tape which I installed snaps. I only wrap the back and one side. This has solved overtaxing the heater and fish as happy in winter. Thanks for yet another informational video!
What happens if the thermostat is faulty... lol but, I agree, have mine on thermostat also along with thermometers also. In 120 have 4 and in 75 have 3 and 150 have 5. All the lil ones, 55 and delow I have 3 to 2. What we won't do for our fishy family!! Lol
thermostats are rubbish for heat control, either full on or fully off, this puts strain on everything else but its the cheapest solution for the manufacturer, a PID controller like used in incubaters is far more accurate and coupled to an ssr relay no moving parts, its whats in your cruise control in your car, imagin trying to hold 50 in your car using only full throttle or no throttle, almos imposible. thats just what a thermostat does.
Use an external/separate thermostat to regulate the temperature and set the internal thermostat a couple of degrees higher, then you have a failsafe if it should get stuck and you won't boil your fish. I make mine myself and have WiFi access and monitoring on them, not that hard to do if you got some knowledge in electronics.
This is super helpful, thank you. I'm looking to get my first tank but before i do im researching everything to make sure my new flat mates are well cared for and this made perfect sense! Defo my fav fishtuber :D
I use an Inkbird thermostat with my heater. Stops the fish getting cooked if the heater malfunctions and allows me to set a temperature range so the heater is not always turning on and off.
That's an interesting idea, I'm assuming that streams even in the tropics cool down over night, so you could even turn the heater off for a while at night....
I've had a fluval heater like that one for years when you get "LF" just make sure it's clean, and place it where there is more flow... lol It's a pretty good heater, been going strong for years.
I found this video just in time. I am new since October 2022. I am starting a 55G 21"H Community Tank room-divider and a 20G 12"H Long to up my Betta and his Clean-up Crew into. The height is the same. I am looking at getting the Eheim Adjustable Calibratable with overheating auto shut-off for both tanks. Being a newbie, I unknowingly bought the pre-set heaters for my Betta Starter Kit Tank and for the Quarantine Tanks (1 10G & 1 5G... because it made sense at the time. Now, I know better. They over heat up as high as 82°F... not good for some plants... so I since learned. Great job in explaining how heaters work and why they should be placed diagonally. Makes a lot of sense knowing how it is designed and where the sensor is located. Thanks again. With a post concussion thing going on, I do appreciate your tone, your speed a bit slow enough that I can catch what you are saying, and the visuals. Much appreciated.
it would be interesting to know the day/night temp fluctuations where the fish are found locally. It would probably differ between fish found in large lakes vs streams/rivers. I don't think multiple cycles of heating and cooling during the day is the answer, but being able to set a day and night target temperature to get one nice temperature ramp up during the day and cool down during the night should be the goal. This would probably only be feasible using a heater attached to a variable wattage controller. Assuming proper heater use (located in higher flow area, placed at 45 deg, etc), the large number of variables (tank size, ambient temperature, target temperatures, etc) would necessitate developing a complex heating algorithm or ultimately an AI algorithm to control temperature to achieve previous stated goal. In other words, ultimately a computer controlled device. As far as safety is concerned, on any tank with livestock i wouldn't risk using a heater without a thermostat. Additionally, if I had a really rare/endangered/extinct in the wild species, I would probably go to the extreme of DIY'ing a heat exchanger system that would physically isolate the heated water from the tank water, to prevent heater ruptures from possibly contaminating the tank and killing livestock. Interesting topic. Fluke makes temperature data loggers that would allow accurate data gathering. That would be my first step.
So far this winter in eastern Ontario Canada I've had no heater in my tank. Just heat the room and the Temperature has been fine. Fish are still active and healthy
They can easily make a better heater, seriously it's 2021, they have electric cars that go 600 miles. It's all about cheap Chinese manufacturing and forced obsolescence.
Mike Keough As a kid I only had one heater last at least 15 years when I had my freshwater aquarium. That was back in the 90s. Haven’t had an aquarium in quite some time so don’t know how durable modern heaters are
@@scottl5910 Yeah I've wondered if why people are seemingly having so many issues are the materials being used or the way they are being assembled now vs 30 years ago. Sometimes there can be such a thing as too much "tech" or other bells and whistles. I'd honestly be super leery of purchasing a heater with a digital readout. I've always just used basic wand style heaters complete with power cord and temperature dial. Definitely something to be said for nano tanks in that regard. My 2.5gal and my 5gal tanks I had 25 years ago had no heaters. Just kept them in climate controlled rooms. Those were some great little experiment tanks.
One of the things I love about living in Southern California is our temperatures. I have a 10 gallon guppy and cherry shrimp tank with a 100 W heater set at 72°… The heater itself is only actually on for about eight hours a day three months a year, LOL
Love the honesty and explanation Cory, thats why I buy my stuff from you...Q: Why cant they design a 2 or 3 degree range, seems like a simple fix; way less cycling and less heat build up??
Love your practical examples... I am heating whole fish room instead of single aquariums :) but this was really interesting video. It of course makes sense, but I have never thought about it... :)
i have a 9-year-old fully submersed heater at 45 degrees angle and it's still working fine. I have a top on the tank as described and heater not cranked
Mines been going strong almost 15 years now. The fact that it made it through me being a little kid is impressive. I had no idea heaters broke like this
Great info and advice! I use a heater from the Polish company Aquael, platinum heater 50W. I looked on YT and on the internet how to properly set it in an aquarium. In the end I decided to add it at an angle. Watching this video I'm even more happy to done so...and also for my filter, that is close by, to provide flow to the heater. The heater has an electronic measuring system to show the actual temperature, but just to be sure I always have my regular thermometer in the aquarium. When I do my water changes I'm always careful to first unplug it and let it cool for 15-20 min and then start to lower the water. I use it since August 2019 and so far so good. But I'm always surprised to see my fish eating food from it...like it's not that hot.
Wow. I'm one of those who likes everything straight. I haven't had any problems but will suck it up and tilt my heater. Very informative information. Thank you
Repeated heater issues, including cooked guppies, have encouraged me to keep ambient temperature tanks, roughly 65° F. Currently enjoying Endlers, Bloodfins, White Cloud Minnows in my 125 long
In my 125 I use 2 x 150 watt heaters instead of a 300 watt. If either one fails (in the on position) it's not enough to cook the fish. If one fails (in the off) there is enough heat from the second heater to keep them alive until I replace it. Costs a bit more but with a tank full of expensive fish, worth the investment. And the truth is, they make them as cheap as possible vs as well built as possible.
You have made a good point there even if it was tong in cheek. I have a selection of heaters from some cheap ones to more expensive and I have not had any trouble. It is physical and thermal handling. Handle gently and give them chance to cool also any crud like Cory was referring to get it off with a scourer as this will cause a hot spot and weaken the stress the glass.
@@SuperRoverboy not that often but since I've about 70ish tanks in my shop I handle alot of heaters and accidents happen 😁 I mostly use and sell aqua nova heaters since their selling price is pretty much what a jäger heater costs to stock..
I have used 2 aqua top 50w heaters for about 2 years now in 10 gallon tanks with no issues even for a cheap heater. I put a 30gallon tank together on a tight budget and put in a 100w heater I got for 6 dollars which lasted about a year and half surprisingly until it got stuck on. Caught it before any fish issues occurred. I went to replace it and figured the 2 other aqua top heaters are working still I will get one of those as they seemed decent. I decided I was going to order one big enough to heat a 125 gallon as future proofing. I did mount it on a 45 degree angle as it did not fit in the tank stood up. It only lasted 2 months before it stopped heating I chocked it up to just getting lucky on the first 2 heaters but after seeing this I am not sure. Also I am now using one of the 50w heaters in the 30 gallon tank and it heats it just fine in my house. I wish this video was out sooner it might have saved me some grief.
While this is true, most saltwater hobbyists have problems with too much heat. This is why external water pumps exist, methods on how to make a screen mesh top etc. I still believe it to be the same core problem just from the other side instead of being too cold, it's too hot and heat management is the key.
Great topic! This is the first year I'm using heaters in my aquariums, so I was happy to see this. Also I enjoyed seeing those goldfish clowning around in the background :^)
Wow this is really good food for thought!! My knowledge set is mostly about the biological aspects of fish keeping and I’ve read up a lot about filtration too but my electrical knowledge is pretty lacking. I think electrical is a pretty important aspect of fish keeping that often goes unmentioned. My brother’s roommate knows a ton about mechanical and electrical stuff and he’s been schooling me on the dumb stuff I’ve been doing with extensions cords and outlet expanders for my aquarium set-ups lol. So great category of videos to touch on! Thanks
No they don't I actually raised my fantail goldfish named Orange Crush (no joke) and kept his tank water between 65-72*F He's still alive and lives w/a good friend I. the state of Oregon due to the fact I could take him to the East coast 🐟🍊☁️
I've been considering a temperature controller to help with this. Any recommendations on one? I've never seen one in a local store. Anyone tried to recommended one on Amazon?
Excellent video!!!! We've been running our tanks with heaters as you have described for over 4 years now. All has been going great for us. Trying to educate fish keepers is tough!!! LOL!!!!
Validation! I have never felt so validated as a hobbyist. The reason my no-name garbage brand heaters have kept going for a decade and my buddies' expensive ones keep failing is because I always put my heaters right under the filter's outflow. My reasoning was aesthetic, to make them both easier to hide, but I'm so glad I was accidentally doing it right all along!! Both because of the heat coming off the filter making it easier on the heater, and because it's in the highest-flow part of my tank. Now I keep my aquarium room at about 75 and only run 1 heater (for a frog that needs about 80) and I can tell you that if most of your livestock need similar temps, heating the whole entire room is really the way to go.
Nice video. Temperature controllers I've used for years in the fish room where I can set a variance from half a degree to 10 degrees if wanted. The problem with every heater is that they will fail eventually and more times then not they will not just turn off and die they will get stuck on. Major concern that the controllers eliminate.
Well, we do fight against that currently with companies. I believe this education benefits the companies even. Long term, customers having success far outweighs more heater sales this year in terms of profits for a company over the next 20 years. The problem is who is looking at the profits at the end of the quarter? That is who is making the decisions for these companies.
@@AquariumCoop I couldn't agree more, sir. The issue of putting Quarterlies ahead of a firm's long-term prosperity did eventually kill one company I once worked for. As soon as it went public, the accountants managed us into the ground with zero comprehension of what we were doing or why we existed at all. One of the big reasons I continue to listen to your videos is for your attitude towards a healthy business prosperity model. A private entrepreneur with the attitude like yourself is the best model for good capitalism. Best Wishes!
GREAT topic Cory!!!!!! I cant seem to find a heater guard anywhere......my plecosouras loves sitting next to the heater. the other day, i burnt myself while cleaning. so, the plecosouras is cooking himself. I say plecosouras because he/she is 12 inches long!!! and 2 years ago, he/she was only 1.5 inches long!!!! I may have to 3d print a heater guard. Thank you for the idea.... and again.. great topic!!!
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@LightSoundGeometry Analog Electronics exactly. Mine still running as well
Hey cory, i have a Question would it be an Idea to Make Bio kits (Bio Filter material, Bacteria etc.) And starter medic kits So its easier for people that are startes to Find out what they need For serten Things like Standard treatment stuff for Fish sicknesses etc. (Btw sorry for my bad english 😅 Im dutch(
@LightSoundGeometry Analog Electronics I have two. One failed after a few years. The other probably still works but is retired.
Aquarium Co-Op one of your fish in the tank behind you was looking suspicious. Hope it is ok!
so what your saying is. Instead of buying a Bus... I should buy 3 Mini vans?
Cory, one thing that differentiates your videos from others I watch on the hobby, is that after watching yours I end up making changes to my tanks. Thank you very much. You make a difference.
The fact he educated his audience instead of pushing products is freshing plus the products he makes he's tested himself to be to a standard which he approves of
As a retired electronics engineer, I can
tell you the reason heaters fail is
because they are designed wrong.
With the correct design, the heater can
last decades. It really wouldn't cost
that much more to do it right.
The current design hooks up the heating
elements directly to the mains (Constant
Voltage Source). They need to design it
so the heating elements connect to a
Constant Current Source. That way the
heater can turn on and off thousands of
times a day without the destructive
current surges through the heating
elements when it turns on.
If the heater detects a low flow
condition the electronics can throttle
back the current to the heating
elements.
Another design flaw of most heaters is
the electronics are in the same tube
that the heating elements are,
subjecting the electronics to high
temperatures. High heat is the enemy of
electronics. The designs that use a
separate controller out side of the tank
are much better.
Couldn't agree more and the heater manufacturers know this too. That's why they will never implement such a design because then they couldn't sell you another one when their flawed design fails. I'm not telling you anything you dont already know ;)
How long does a tmperature sensor last when seperated from teh heat source? I have one of the rare filters with a seperated system like you suggest, but the temperature sensor broke (physical force). I think it is a pt100 because these seem to be very common and I will replace it with such a sensor.
I believe the titanium heaters are designed this way. The only problem I've had with them is the temp probes going bad. But at the same time I've had old glass heaters last over 15 years.
Tony Meagher your 2nd paragraph is the #1 reason why they don't make better heaters
@Sweet James agree it's a big long commercial given. All that was needed to explain this is what Tony Meagher wrote.
A warning to everyone who keep large fish concerning heaters. I had a 75 gallon tank with two Oscars, and as anyone who has kept Oscars know they can be rowdy fish. I went to feed them one day and noticed something shiny in the bottom of the tank. Reached in to take it out and it was the glass case from the heater. I immediately went to remove the remains of the heater from the tank, but it wasn't there.
I found it lying behind the tank on the wooden tank stand, it had been there, still running, and had burnt the wood, I mean a serious deep charred spot. I'm just lucky my house didn't catch fire. So anyone with large fish capable of doing this beware, take precautions to avoid this happening. Myself, I quit using heaters altogether.
If you want to use a heater in this scenario you'd probably be better off to have your heater in a sump or somewhere outside of the aquarium.
@@merfishsandwich691 If you have that option, yes, but it's not always one people have.
Fluval E series heaters fit your needs I think
@@seane1516 Appreciate it, that was years ago however. I only have small fish now. I love Oscars but I got tired of not being able to have plants or much decoration in my tank. Plus, mine lived like 15 years, that was a long time with a bare tank.
Can you tell me how you keep your tanks warm without a heater? They do give me a lot of anxiety. But if I ever forget to plug them in after a water change, my water can go down to 62!
Damn, I tilted my heater right away and put it near my bubbles for flow. Thanks for the advice!!
Raflm, I put my filter intake tube near the heater to push the water around.
I've always put the heater right next to the output of my canister filter. Just makes sense to push the warmer water to the side that doesnt have a heater. Great information for people in the hobby struggling to manage proper water.
Beautiful goldfish tank. I'd happily watch a video of that tank for an hour.
Srsly, I find myself just staring at it during these videos
Hear hear!:)) same here
Same! I have my heart set on some fancy goldfish like those. 😍
"Retain as much heat as you can first" was the approach I've applied to my aquarium, which is currently in my basement. My basement is only semi-finished, so only semi-insulated. At least it's heated. So to keep as much heat as possible, the outside back and one end are covered with styrofoam sheets, and I usually have towels laying on top of my lid (which doubles to keep dust out).
The heating I use is an under-gravel heating cable.
My last heater JUST burned out... And you explained every thing I did wrong. Just fixed my mistakes. Thank you!! :)
Cory, you are so good at explaining things! Thank you, I never looked at it that away!
My personal experience is that once i started going with Eheim (Jäger) i haven't had a failed heater for over 10 years. They are all still going strong. Previously i had broken heaters every year.
Best fish keeping advice on UA-cam, as always. Practical, common sense, honest. If everyone ran their business like Cory the world would be such a nicer and easier place.
I'd love to see a heater developed by Aquatium Co-OP. The sponge filters you have are great, I'd imagine anything you guys produce would be cost effective and well made.
Tbh sponge filters are almost failproof and definitely dropshipped from China but yes, Cory would do great with sales of a heater of his own with his branding behind it
@@lukas______ Not too fast. My last sponge filter I purchased had great bubbles and air flow, but would not suck in anything. I replace it with a CoOp and voila!
Problem is, you'd need to re-invent the wheel on these or find existing things to combine into one thing... that are already manufactured. They'd just end up selling off brand stuff.
Nice job with the explanation here Cory. It would definitely be nice to have a heater with a heating curve, instead of a hard-set temperature to stick to.
Thank you for this video. I bought the new Sera heater and it's by far better than everything I've used in over 20 years. It's strong, with fish protection and perfectly stable with flow in the fish tank and a 2 thirds open top tank. Its power is the double of the gallons I have. And the weather is quite fluctuating here in Portugal during the winter. Thank you!
“Don’t drive your car like an idiot...”. LOL! Coop needs to develop a heater with range, so less on and off. Love the vid!
All that is required is a separate temperature controller, so you can set the interval however you please
@@paulsabucchi Where would one find such a thing? Link?
As someone from the reptile keeping hobby just getting into keeping Australian red claw I’m so thankful for having a few different types of thermostats meant for heat mats/cables/lights etc, makes life 10 times easier. They can be a bit pricey though that’s the only problem.
I have two small heaters in my 40 gl. Not by choice, but because I upgraded my tank to a bigger size and I used the heaters from the two smaller tanks. Now I find out that it is a good idea.
I still have a heater from the late 70s I have started using it again for the last 3 years
Be careful if the manufacturer Does not warranty the heater that long, your looking at a fire hazard, hazard to your tank, fluctuations in temperature can harm fish sensitive to temperature change. Please for the sake of the hobbie, your life, the life of your fish. Get a new heater!!!!!! Immediately. Test your tank water with more than one thermometer. Check digital against glass thermometer. Always have a way to verify your numbers. Also Never assume a heater is good, always have. A back up waiting to throw in the tank. Check to see if you are having fluctuations In temp with that old heater your using, if you care about your fish, that are living breathing ANIMALS, stop treating them like there a Peasant, they are as important as our cats or dogs.
You’ve been reading my rants! (Maybe) I love these “how to properly use your equipment” videos.
I always put my heaters (which are E. Jager) either next to the filter intake or output, horizontal and below water change level. And set them to winter water temps for the fishes natural habitat. (Shrimp don’t need a heater for ex)
Ha ha ha... I use a lot of 50w & 75w heaters in the house and don’t go to 100w except for the garage tanks with bigger tanks (unheated garage). I also add rigid insulation to the back of my tanks.
When i experimented with insulating tanks, I find it didn't help as much as I would have liked. A glass top did help a lot though. Eliminating super cold air near the tanks helps as well.
Good discussion. I use heater controllers on all my tanks and set with a variance of +/- 2 degrees Fahrenheit. Less on/off cycles. Also use smaller than recommended heaters on most tanks and they heat just fine. 25w on 10 gal, 50 watt on 20 gal, etc. I’ve had 5 of the cobalt neo-therm heaters and all but one has failed.
For some further info for us, what was the purchase date on those cobalt neo therms?
Aquarium Co-Op Cory, I purchased two when they first came out (2014?). They both failed and were replaced by Cobalt in 2016 or 2017 before the warranty expired. I had also purchased an additional Neo-therm. The new heater and the two replacements were acquired after Cobalt “fixed” the issue which caused early production heaters to explode/crack. Only have one still working. Most of them failed by sticking “On”. Only one had a cracked housing.
What about 5 gallon tanks? It's hard to find good quality heater for less than 25 watts.
I've got a variety of heaters and I haven't lost one yet (aside from those crappy "Always On" Betta tank ones). Granted, my heaters live beside my filter's outflow, might account for a lot of my "luck"...
I love the idea that other commenters have mentioned of putting them on a timer so there is some fluctuation like there is in nature, your other suggestions are certainly going to help me and others out as well.
After watching this video I went and checked all my heaters to discover that one of them had stopped working. The temperature had dropped from 27 down to 23. Thanks Cory for saving all my fish!!
Love what you guys bring to the hobby! You remind me of brs but for fresh water.
Temp controllers and exchangeable parts are the future of heaters with a way to cut power if temp exceeds a certain value.
Thanks for the tips, I actually tipped mine because I noticed pet stores did this so I copied it, love your videos, lean a lot for a beginner, I'm just disappointed I cant buy anything from Aquarium Co Op, you don't mail to Canada. Keep up with these great shows. Thanks again.
I have 4 Aqueon “Pro” heaters after 3 years they are all working fine. im pretty happy with that
Hey! Something I was actually doing right all these years! I keep my house cooler due to health issues, so my tropical tanks have always had heaters. I place them so they are either under the water return of the filter, or there is an air stone/bar under them, figuring that would help circulate the warmed water better than just sticking the heater in the corner 'out of the way'. Once the fully submersible heaters came in, I was mounting them horizontally on the center back of the tank, and again running air directly beneath them. Maybe why view only had one heater not last longer than five years (and that because it got dropped on the floor). Not trying to blow my own horn here; it's just nice to find out I was doing it right. Thanks, Cory!
Could you talk about condensation inside the heater?
Way back in College I worked for an aquarium leasing/maintenance outfit. They always ran two heaters of different wattage. The lower-wattage heater did the bulk of the work. The higher-wattage heater was set a degree lower, so it only kicked on as supplement/backup. Tank being a degree under norm, indicated primary heater failure. Long-term strategy, but I worked on many 15-20yo aquariums with even glass catfish that old living in 'em, so I always run tandem heaters. If one should fail, Murphy's Law says it's gonna happen when I'm on vacation.
Edit: I've never had a heater stick on since I was a kid with a cheapo Penn-Plax, lol.
14:45 Having worked at, and owned, aquarium leasing/maintenance businesses, the last thing we want is to charge a customer for *any* failed part. Different economics from an aquarium store entirely. When I liquidated, I kept my heaters, I have a bunch of green ebo's and those little brown ones I can't think of the brand, but never failed either. Pry 'em from my cold, dead fingers lol.
Use to have a heater in my tank when I first got it 2 years ago but i'v never used it cause my house is allways warm enough even in the winter
Great video. I ended up with a 200w heater for a 75g. I put a heater on each end of the aquarium so it’s already got a back up. My left heater is the main heater, the right side is the back up. So far so good. I personally went with a smaller heater for longer run cycles.
I have learned a lot from trial and error, and your channel. I've removed heaters from the two aquariums that I have since freshwater tanks don't really need them; as long as your place is heated and a steady room temperature.
WOW this has been the best put together information about heaters and how they work and why they fail.... EVER!! Thank you. You have just changed my entire thinking on heating my aquariums.
Mine literally just broke 10 minutes ago wtf why is UA-cam stalking me
The Algorithm knows all o.o
Alexa ..... Stop spying .
Add a sock to the end of your phone to block the camera and mic lol
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I keep my house a balmy 64 day/61 night. There is no heater that can keep my tank at 78...I created a wrap for the aquarium re-using bubble sheets, a pillow case and twill tape which I installed snaps. I only wrap the back and one side. This has solved overtaxing the heater and fish as happy in winter. Thanks for yet another informational video!
I always have my heaters hooked to a thermostat to give me that added piece of mind
What happens if the thermostat is faulty... lol but, I agree, have mine on thermostat also along with thermometers also. In 120 have 4 and in 75 have 3 and 150 have 5. All the lil ones, 55 and delow I have 3 to 2. What we won't do for our fishy family!! Lol
thermostats are rubbish for heat control, either full on or fully off, this puts strain on everything else but its the cheapest solution for the manufacturer, a PID controller like used in incubaters is far more accurate and coupled to an ssr relay no moving parts, its whats in your cruise control in your car, imagin trying to hold 50 in your car using only full throttle or no throttle, almos imposible. thats just what a thermostat does.
@@incubatork Sounds smart but where would such a thing be found that would work with aquarium heaters? Link?
Wow, just opened my eyes on heating my tanks! Thanks man!
Use an external/separate thermostat to regulate the temperature and set the internal thermostat a couple of degrees higher, then you have a failsafe if it should get stuck and you won't boil your fish.
I make mine myself and have WiFi access and monitoring on them, not that hard to do if you got some knowledge in electronics.
This is super helpful, thank you. I'm looking to get my first tank but before i do im researching everything to make sure my new flat mates are well cared for and this made perfect sense! Defo my fav fishtuber :D
I use an Inkbird thermostat with my heater. Stops the fish getting cooked if the heater malfunctions and allows me to set a temperature range so the heater is not always turning on and off.
Great advice, Ink bird can save fish!
I have to say as someone just entering the hobby these videos have been invaluable!
I plug my heater into a timer; temp fluctuates gently over the course of the day and reduces the number of on/off cycles. Fish appear happy.
That's an interesting idea, I'm assuming that streams even in the tropics cool down over night, so you could even turn the heater off for a while at night....
Wow Ima try this thanks
@Huds S alternating on/off every 3-4hrs.
I've had a fluval heater like that one for years when you get "LF" just make sure it's clean, and place it where there is more flow... lol It's a pretty good heater, been going strong for years.
I’m really diggin’ the beard!
I found this video just in time. I am new since October 2022.
I am starting a 55G 21"H Community Tank room-divider and a 20G 12"H Long to up my Betta and his Clean-up Crew into. The height is the same.
I am looking at getting the Eheim Adjustable Calibratable with overheating auto shut-off for both tanks.
Being a newbie, I unknowingly bought the pre-set heaters for my Betta Starter Kit Tank and for the Quarantine Tanks (1 10G & 1 5G... because it made sense at the time. Now, I know better. They over heat up as high as 82°F... not good for some plants... so I since learned.
Great job in explaining how heaters work and why they should be placed diagonally. Makes a lot of sense knowing how it is designed and where the sensor is located.
Thanks again. With a post concussion thing going on, I do appreciate your tone, your speed a bit slow enough that I can catch what you are saying, and the visuals.
Much appreciated.
Thank you Incredibly informative - some of the best information on an important subject
The most honest fish keeper in the game. Thank you for sharing your knowledge With us.
it would be interesting to know the day/night temp fluctuations where the fish are found locally. It would probably differ between fish found in large lakes vs streams/rivers. I don't think multiple cycles of heating and cooling during the day is the answer, but being able to set a day and night target temperature to get one nice temperature ramp up during the day and cool down during the night should be the goal. This would probably only be feasible using a heater attached to a variable wattage controller. Assuming proper heater use (located in higher flow area, placed at 45 deg, etc), the large number of variables (tank size, ambient temperature, target temperatures, etc) would necessitate developing a complex heating algorithm or ultimately an AI algorithm to control temperature to achieve previous stated goal. In other words, ultimately a computer controlled device.
As far as safety is concerned, on any tank with livestock i wouldn't risk using a heater without a thermostat. Additionally, if I had a really rare/endangered/extinct in the wild species, I would probably go to the extreme of DIY'ing a heat exchanger system that would physically isolate the heated water from the tank water, to prevent heater ruptures from possibly contaminating the tank and killing livestock.
Interesting topic. Fluke makes temperature data loggers that would allow accurate data gathering. That would be my first step.
Thank you easily understood 👍🙂
Cory , do you have any info or experience with in-line heaters ?
So far this winter in eastern Ontario Canada I've had no heater in my tank. Just heat the room and the Temperature has been fine. Fish are still active and healthy
They can easily make a better heater, seriously it's 2021, they have electric cars that go 600 miles. It's all about cheap Chinese manufacturing and forced obsolescence.
Or it’s about making a heater at a price point that people will actually purchase it.
your right, they want to be able to sell another, so why make one that lasts for ever, same thing they did with light bulbs
I have a couple old 100 watt heaters, and I was thinking of buying a 300 or 500 watt heater for my new 75 gallon tank. You've changed my mind.
I've never really had any issues with my heaters. I think the shortest lifespan of any of my heaters has been like 10 years.
Mike Keough As a kid I only had one heater last at least 15 years when I had my freshwater aquarium. That was back in the 90s. Haven’t had an aquarium in quite some time so don’t know how durable modern heaters are
@@scottl5910 Yeah I've wondered if why people are seemingly having so many issues are the materials being used or the way they are being assembled now vs 30 years ago. Sometimes there can be such a thing as too much "tech" or other bells and whistles. I'd honestly be super leery of purchasing a heater with a digital readout. I've always just used basic wand style heaters complete with power cord and temperature dial.
Definitely something to be said for nano tanks in that regard. My 2.5gal and my 5gal tanks I had 25 years ago had no heaters. Just kept them in climate controlled rooms. Those were some great little experiment tanks.
@@spinelessmoderate8715 what type of heaters do you have? Brand & size?
Thank you for the explanation. And for providing the temperature also in Celsius.
Excellent video. You brought up great points I've never considered and they make a lot of sense. Thanks. 👍
Love the new color scheme! You look healthier and the tank looks great. This is a lot of great info that is very helpful. Thank you!
Thank you so much for explaining how to use an aquarium heater properly. I have been going through heaters like crazy.
One of the things I love about living in Southern California is our temperatures. I have a 10 gallon guppy and cherry shrimp tank with a 100 W heater set at 72°… The heater itself is only actually on for about eight hours a day three months a year, LOL
Love the honesty and explanation Cory, thats why I buy my stuff from you...Q: Why cant they design a 2 or 3 degree range, seems like a simple fix; way less cycling and less heat build up??
Marketing, people buy accuracy. They believe in that. It'll take quite a bit to change the opinion of 30 years of marketing currently.
Great conversation! We should all work to make things more sustainable and last longer.
I personally like to put my aqarium headers on the out flow of my canister filter
I put my footers there
I put my headers in the back of the net
Great information. Thanks for taking the time to explain it all so well. It helps me to really understand the ‘why’ behind things.
How many gallons is that tank behind you? Its gorgeous! would love to get one like that
800
And cost $15,000.00 Better start saving. . .
@@michaellindsey1543 😂
Thank you from a newbie for a very comprehensive explanation on heaters and water flow etc
AWESOME video! Great points and alot of good info that all fishkeepers need to know. Saving fish lives and fishkeepers money one video at a time 😊
I can't begin to explain how much this video just helped me out. Your a genius mate
Dollar store foam poster board is a secret weapon on the back and some sides of my tank. Don't tell anyone.
Love your practical examples... I am heating whole fish room instead of single aquariums :) but this was really interesting video. It of course makes sense, but I have never thought about it... :)
Been using aqueon heaters and never had any break on me or give me any problems.
i have a 9-year-old fully submersed heater at 45 degrees angle and it's still working fine. I have a top on the tank as described and heater not cranked
My Heater is tilted right underneath the intake of my Fluval HOB. That way it sucks the warm water up and spits it out through the tank.
Mines been going strong almost 15 years now. The fact that it made it through me being a little kid is impressive. I had no idea heaters broke like this
what type of heater have you got??? Heaters are expensive going through them is a pain
I don’t know if this is good, but I have a air stone under all my heaters and they tend to last at least 5 to 6 years.
I've had mine 6 years and it hasn't broke and I got it used
Really like the background set up. Way to produce quality content. Thanks
Great explanation! Supervaluable information for all hobbyists.
Great info and advice! I use a heater from the Polish company Aquael, platinum heater 50W. I looked on YT and on the internet how to properly set it in an aquarium. In the end I decided to add it at an angle. Watching this video I'm even more happy to done so...and also for my filter, that is close by, to provide flow to the heater. The heater has an electronic measuring system to show the actual temperature, but just to be sure I always have my regular thermometer in the aquarium. When I do my water changes I'm always careful to first unplug it and let it cool for 15-20 min and then start to lower the water. I use it since August 2019 and so far so good. But I'm always surprised to see my fish eating food from it...like it's not that hot.
I have an aquarium heater from 1973 and it works perfect ..it's coil wires are thick ..all the new ones are made delicate and fragile
I'd love to see a pic or video of that, sounds awesome.
Impressive. What brand is it?
Wow. I'm one of those who likes everything straight. I haven't had any problems but will suck it up and tilt my heater. Very informative information. Thank you
When will they make a heater that can survive my *KARATE KICKS* ?!
I'd buy 3
Get a titanium heater and it will break your foot!
@@paulsabucchi lol
Are your sumps that large that you practice your karate in them?!? ;-))
Repeated heater issues, including cooked guppies, have encouraged me to keep ambient temperature tanks, roughly 65° F. Currently enjoying Endlers, Bloodfins, White Cloud Minnows in my 125 long
In my 125 I use 2 x 150 watt heaters instead of a 300 watt. If either one fails (in the on position) it's not enough to cook the fish. If one fails (in the off) there is enough heat from the second heater to keep them alive until I replace it. Costs a bit more but with a tank full of expensive fish, worth the investment. And the truth is, they make them as cheap as possible vs as well built as possible.
Mine breaks 9/10 times due to dropping them on my concrete floor :P
why are you taking it out of the tank so often? For cleaning?
You have made a good point there even if it was tong in cheek. I have a selection of heaters from some cheap ones to more expensive and I have not had any trouble. It is physical and thermal handling. Handle gently and give them chance to cool also any crud like Cory was referring to get it off with a scourer as this will cause a hot spot and weaken the stress the glass.
Aqueon pro heater is made of some kind of metal and they work well. Never dropped mine but I'm sure they'll survive a fall or two
@@urhma7419 I agree I have 2 of them and they are great. They use electronic thermostat. In the USA look got Cobolt which is calibrated in Fahrenheit.
@@SuperRoverboy not that often but since I've about 70ish tanks in my shop I handle alot of heaters and accidents happen 😁 I mostly use and sell aqua nova heaters since their selling price is pretty much what a jäger heater costs to stock..
I have used 2 aqua top 50w heaters for about 2 years now in 10 gallon tanks with no issues even for a cheap heater. I put a 30gallon tank together on a tight budget and put in a 100w heater I got for 6 dollars which lasted about a year and half surprisingly until it got stuck on. Caught it before any fish issues occurred. I went to replace it and figured the 2 other aqua top heaters are working still I will get one of those as they seemed decent. I decided I was going to order one big enough to heat a 125 gallon as future proofing. I did mount it on a 45 degree angle as it did not fit in the tank stood up. It only lasted 2 months before it stopped heating I chocked it up to just getting lucky on the first 2 heaters but after seeing this I am not sure. Also I am now using one of the 50w heaters in the 30 gallon tank and it heats it just fine in my house. I wish this video was out sooner it might have saved me some grief.
On another hand, their reason why heater need to be precise, when you have a saltwater tank you don't want a lot of deviation.
While this is true, most saltwater hobbyists have problems with too much heat. This is why external water pumps exist, methods on how to make a screen mesh top etc. I still believe it to be the same core problem just from the other side instead of being too cold, it's too hot and heat management is the key.
Great topic! This is the first year I'm using heaters in my aquariums, so I was happy to see this. Also I enjoyed seeing those goldfish clowning around in the background :^)
Wow this is really good food for thought!! My knowledge set is mostly about the biological aspects of fish keeping and I’ve read up a lot about filtration too but my electrical knowledge is pretty lacking. I think electrical is a pretty important aspect of fish keeping that often goes unmentioned. My brother’s roommate knows a ton about mechanical and electrical stuff and he’s been schooling me on the dumb stuff I’ve been doing with extensions cords and outlet expanders for my aquarium set-ups lol. So great category of videos to touch on! Thanks
You should forward the information or have him get with cory and teach him this stuff so he an teach us
Great Video Cory! You made some excellent points on heaters that are spot on. I truly enjoyed listening to this video on my lunch break.
The irony of talking about heaters with a cold water tank behind him
His first love is Rainbow fish and they are tropical. He just picked out a cheerful background for today. I love Cory.
Goldfish doesn't need a heater 😂😜
No they don't I actually raised my fantail goldfish named Orange Crush (no joke) and kept his tank water between 65-72*F He's still alive and lives w/a good friend I. the state of Oregon due to the fact I could take him to the East coast 🐟🍊☁️
Couldn't not could
Thanks for the information Cory, I’ve adjusted the position of my heater as it was vertical 👍 😍
Ohhhh cory! I woke up to a broken heater. It had foggy glass all up the backside. was only a month old. 😠 Good timing bro..
I love your way of explaining... Brilliant.
Shout out from Ireland 🇮🇪 🙌
I've been considering a temperature controller to help with this. Any recommendations on one? I've never seen one in a local store. Anyone tried to recommended one on Amazon?
Excellent video!!!!
We've been running our tanks with heaters as you have described for over 4 years now.
All has been going great for us.
Trying to educate fish keepers is tough!!! LOL!!!!
I’ve been running the fluval m 300 on my 75 for like 3 or 4 years now but it’s right next to my aqua clear 100 filter so it’s getting good flow
Validation! I have never felt so validated as a hobbyist. The reason my no-name garbage brand heaters have kept going for a decade and my buddies' expensive ones keep failing is because I always put my heaters right under the filter's outflow. My reasoning was aesthetic, to make them both easier to hide, but I'm so glad I was accidentally doing it right all along!! Both because of the heat coming off the filter making it easier on the heater, and because it's in the highest-flow part of my tank. Now I keep my aquarium room at about 75 and only run 1 heater (for a frog that needs about 80) and I can tell you that if most of your livestock need similar temps, heating the whole entire room is really the way to go.
I put the flat aqueon one directly into a hang on back filter. Works great
I've been thinking about this exact topic all weak. Thanks for the great info Cory!
Bulk reef supply came out with a phenomenal one
Which one is that?
Nice video. Temperature controllers I've used for years in the fish room where I can set a variance from half a degree to 10 degrees if wanted. The problem with every heater is that they will fail eventually and more times then not they will not just turn off and die they will get stuck on. Major concern that the controllers eliminate.
Cory, if you keep speaking *truth* like this, they're gonna get you one day, buddy.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Well, we do fight against that currently with companies. I believe this education benefits the companies even. Long term, customers having success far outweighs more heater sales this year in terms of profits for a company over the next 20 years. The problem is who is looking at the profits at the end of the quarter? That is who is making the decisions for these companies.
@@AquariumCoop I couldn't agree more, sir. The issue of putting Quarterlies ahead of a firm's long-term prosperity did eventually kill one company I once worked for. As soon as it went public, the accountants managed us into the ground with zero comprehension of what we were doing or why we existed at all.
One of the big reasons I continue to listen to your videos is for your attitude towards a healthy business prosperity model.
A private entrepreneur with the attitude like yourself is the best model for good capitalism.
Best Wishes!
GREAT topic Cory!!!!!! I cant seem to find a heater guard anywhere......my plecosouras loves sitting next to the heater. the other day, i burnt myself while cleaning. so, the plecosouras is cooking himself. I say plecosouras because he/she is 12 inches long!!! and 2 years ago, he/she was only 1.5 inches long!!!! I may have to 3d print a heater guard. Thank you for the idea.... and again.. great topic!!!