Dear lock noob im new 2 this journey ordered a chaos card and ranger kit arriving soon from pickpals here Australia also have a cheap 29pcs set inbound from china 4 the 3 see thru locks wondering any suggestions 4 supplements ya think i need coffin keys and maybe holdout keys i like ya design on the vid i saw also maybe 1 of those is it a dimple pin it looks like a pen?any feedback advice would b much appreciated
Im interested in a all round type kit 4 prepping and survivalist emergency kit altho wifey is always lockin herself out i think we've paid 4 the locksmiths kids college 😁😂
I bought two sets of these in September 2022. One set I wanted to use and abuse to see how well they hold up and the other I wanted to religiously live in my jeans pocket. My pockets are always full of stuff due to my multiple jobs I keep. With that being said, nothing in those pockets are every safe lol. I'm please to say I can't seem to damage my pocket set and my used daily set are loving every bit of hell I put them through! What a fantastic product!
I saw these in a Sparrows newsletter and thought they looked well thought out, unlike the credit card types. My wife and I were at the fire station volunteering as ham radio operators for a local bridge dedication. The automatic paper towel dispenser jammed in the bathroom. I could have easily opened the wafer lock and fixed the dispenser if I would have had these. Good design and a nice review of your work on these.
I’m surprised the tensioners are all the same shape, though I guess doubling up makes sense. I’d like to see this in .018”, it would be easier to break apart, the picks would fit more locks, and the tensioners would double and triple into more useful thicknesses.
I just got myself a set to put on my keys and though I haven’t had need to use them I can tell that they are quality and they’re awesome, I’m a cyclist and don’t like things in my pockets and sometimes I don’t carry my handlebar bag to put my picks in so to be able to have a set of emergency picks clipped to my belt with my keys is a godsend Thanks Ash! All the best!
Pretty neat kit! I never leave the house without my Swick pocket pick set. Even if it’s just to go to the store down the street. I feel naked without a pick set on me or at least within close proximity.
Did u think about doing plastic part in place where u keep your fingers when holding a key then making it so u will be able to connect both parts again instead of breaking. For example u could slide one part inside that plastic there then put key ring through the hole holding it together.
I’m sold. This increases the odds that you pick a lock when you actually need to (legally). Now I want picks on everything. Like an emergency set that can somehow be added to shoes, maybe in the laces. Also an option for flip flops. I wear glasses, I wonder if you could hide a pick set in the frame.
Hi Ash, couldn't they add an "ear" on the tensioner for a hole? Maybe it doesn't look that cool, but it would not have an impact on the tensioners then 🙂
It’s more that you really don’t want unprotected picks and turners in your pocket; they wouldn’t be protected as they are when they are together. Once used they would be better putting in a wallet or other kit
@@LockNoob Could they add a wing on the opposite side of the turning tool to give it a more symmetrical keylike profile? Looks great as it is, but thinking about improvements for future versions is never a bad thing
My first thought looking at those is, do you even need to pop the 2 halves apart. If there's enough flex between the tension half and the hook half, maybe you can insert as a normal key. Let the bottom rail handle the torque and let the top rail handle the pins. That was my first thought. Obviously this doesn't factor in various design concerns like size/shape of keyway, height of hook/rake, etc.
Those are incredible he was hoping you give a few out to your fans PS maybe you could make a 3D printed or plastic sheath to hold all three of them together and make it look like a key too that way you can't tell from a distance and it would keep them from getting bent in your pocket or damaged in any way hope you apply and he is helping I get a free set for commenting this
Once the key is separated you could just put a rubber key identification over the key super glue it before that and put it back on the key chain. Separate it again and again.
I am just getting into the hobby , and really enjoying it , I started with a cheap set from Amazon , and have just bought a sparrows dark shift set because I liked the look of them , I also like the key breakaway set you just demonstrated, one big question that keeps popping up up on all the videos is , what set would you recommend for Euro locks?
I picked up the set, and used some shrink tube after taking it apart. Still easily passes as a rubberized key head and holds it plenty tight for a round 2.
I really like the idea and if i wouldn't already carry a mace kit i would probably get a set... Maybe even anyway get one because one is none and two are one.... Greetings from France!
I've got a very flat and small penknife style set which I keep in the sheath of my multitool - that's always in my vest and I always wear my vest so no problem there. It could also fit into my wallet's coin pouch. All said, the intent of these seems to be more to smuggle lock picks into areas where one would normally not be permitted to have them rather than an "emergency." Still, thumbs up as they're neat little spy gadgets.
Great looking little set. I will definitely be ordering a couple. One to carry as is, and one to modify. I believe the two rakes would also double well as "try-out" keys with a little tweaking. Thinning out the width of the backbone area on the tension tool a little and then grinding the thickness of the working end to 0.015.
The thing I really dislike about the credit card pick sets and things like these is that they are essentially a one-time use item. To actually practice with them to get the feel and carry them in their intended configuration, you'd have to buy two sets. If you could sandwich a card-style set to make an ultra-thin case, I would be much more interested. Perhaps something with the punch-out piece in the center and two solid pieces on the outside, held together with adhesive and a clip or thin magnet. Heck, you could even make the sides from plastic printed to look like a credit card.
Oh thats super freakin cool!! I really think sparrows should give you some kind of pay for your intellectual property if they're going to profit from it themselves
Don’t get me wrong, there are different arrangements with different designs and companies. What I don’t ever want is sales profit as then I would have ‘skin in the game’ and would feel I have to ‘sell’ products. This would also impact my relationships with other companies
Probably not trivial, but would it not be possible to use a hollow key and store the pick and tension tool inside it? That way it would look exactly like a key, possibly a bit larger than a normal key, and it would not be for emergency use only.
It looks like a fun set, though looking on Sparrows new site, it looks like they are not using a short hook, and instead using an offset hybrid. Unless that was a previous design you had been exploring, and they just used that picture.
Need to have per drilled holes in the tension wrench also so you can put them back on your key ring after using. Also woul like to see a rock out key on there instead of the L rake. Great design tho.👍
You and the lock picking lawyer make lock picking look easy. I've been practicing picking on and of for years and it still takes me half and hour to open some locks. the ones I cant open I just cut them with bolt cutters. I just wish someone would invent an electronic smart key that can pick any key lock LOL 😂😂🤣🤣 one day keys will disappear and Locks will be all smart locks that work on your DNA or off your body sent in your hands ???
Hey Ash, very cool project. They'll definitely be on my next Sparrows order. They're definitely more practical than most of those credit card guys out there. Would be great to see another hook profile (maybe inspired by the SSDev guys) or two added in the next iteration.
It's certainly appropriate to have fun with your sport so long as you know there just for fun (and _maybe_ _might_ help you out in a pinch) I think those that get butt-hurt over the novelty are either worried that someone wanting to learn will be turned off from picking because they got the wrong starter kit, are more on the field craft side and don't want to see someone getting a novelty as a talisman and not putting in the work or are just wannabes who have mastered the No.3 and are hiding behind a keyboard. As to carrying tools in a non-permissive environment and getting caught, a good argument is that you're into lock sport (then you'll have to explain what that is) and it is just a novelty and keychain from one of the major manufacturers meant to represent the general shape of the tools that we use to emulate the key. "Look, this 'L' shape looks like the turning tool, this wavy part looks like a popular rake and the whole thing looks like the key that we don't have. Pretty neat, right?" If it's pushed any more that "But you could still use it." "Well, yeah, sorta. But I bet we could scrounge up some other bits of metal around here to improvise tools to get a lock open. See that windshield wiper over there?"... Unless it's law enforcement, then shut up until you speak with your lawyer. (Speaking to those in the USA. Other places, ymmv.)
If they are for emergencies....you would not use it for your own lockout because you have your keys on your already or you don't. So they would be used to help out a friend only 🤷🏻♂️. They look cool anyway
Awesome kit design. It’s a shame they are not on there site that ships to UK. Will have to wait for Chinese to boot leg before we can get it in the UK.
so... car keys have that plastic looking thing. what if it was used to house a MO{}OM where the M is the spring. where the O is a tension ball and where the {} is the end of the tension tool so it pressure fits into a locked position inside the plastic housing the the key. then the rake could remain as the fixed key part of the tool. also then you could re store the tension tool in the key.
Saw the preview on Locksportcast and was hoping to see you do this vid soon. Gonna have to get a set of these for sure; the price, functionality, and concept as great 😎 I'd been thinking about unblading a key-knife and putting in some picks inside instead, but this is SO much cooler. Top-grade all around sir 🤩
Even though I do say so myself, I really like these key chain emergency picking tools as they combine, fun AND function. And why not! 😄😄
Dear lock noob im new 2 this journey ordered a chaos card and ranger kit arriving soon from pickpals here Australia also have a cheap 29pcs set inbound from china 4 the 3 see thru locks wondering any suggestions 4 supplements ya think i need coffin keys and maybe holdout keys i like ya design on the vid i saw also maybe 1 of those is it a dimple pin it looks like a pen?any feedback advice would b much appreciated
Im interested in a all round type kit 4 prepping and survivalist emergency kit altho wifey is always lockin herself out i think we've paid 4 the locksmiths kids college 😁😂
I bought two sets of these in September 2022. One set I wanted to use and abuse to see how well they hold up and the other I wanted to religiously live in my jeans pocket. My pockets are always full of stuff due to my multiple jobs I keep. With that being said, nothing in those pockets are every safe lol. I'm please to say I can't seem to damage my pocket set and my used daily set are loving every bit of hell I put them through! What a fantastic product!
Definitely a nice gift for lock freaks 😉
Sparrows should make the dog tag more useful. They could easily sneak some shims into that piece of metal.
I saw these in a Sparrows newsletter and thought they looked well thought out, unlike the credit card types. My wife and I were at the fire station volunteering as ham radio operators for a local bridge dedication. The automatic paper towel dispenser jammed in the bathroom. I could have easily opened the wafer lock and fixed the dispenser if I would have had these. Good design and a nice review of your work on these.
Wonder if they will take a sparrows credit card for a set of these:) I like them! Credit cards are cool too tho. Guess Ill keep mine.
I’m surprised the tensioners are all the same shape, though I guess doubling up makes sense. I’d like to see this in .018”, it would be easier to break apart, the picks would fit more locks, and the tensioners would double and triple into more useful thicknesses.
Coolest thing on the key chain is the Lego BB8...great design and thought, back to sparrows I go.
I just got myself a set to put on my keys and though I haven’t had need to use them I can tell that they are quality and they’re awesome, I’m a cyclist and don’t like things in my pockets and sometimes I don’t carry my handlebar bag to put my picks in so to be able to have a set of emergency picks clipped to my belt with my keys is a godsend
Thanks Ash! All the best!
Brilliant. Simple useful and stealthy. Also props to Sparrows for producing them.
@LockNoob, if that Sparrows key tag had a slot in the end, you could use it as a break-off tool for the picks.
I was thinking you could use the keyring as a mini pair of pliers to hold one edge while you work the other side of the key/pick.
Great Idea! Easy to put them back together with a bit of clear packing tape after you have used them once. Nice job.
Cool idea! Glad sparrows was willing to manufacture it.
Thanks 🙏
Just wish sparrows delivered internationally.
They do. Go to the Canadian website
Pretty neat kit! I never leave the house without my Swick pocket pick set. Even if it’s just to go to the store down the street. I feel naked without a pick set on me or at least within close proximity.
5:00 Use the key ring as a sort of makeshift pair of pliers to break off the tension tool ...
Did u think about doing plastic part in place where u keep your fingers when holding a key then making it so u will be able to connect both parts again instead of breaking. For example u could slide one part inside that plastic there then put key ring through the hole holding it together.
Great design, you never know when you might need them!!
Have a great day
Well add that to the list of didn’t know I needed but now want lol.
Another great design 👏 👍
Keep up the good work
Nice idea, just got some coming for my EDC. Thanks!
Brilliant design!
I’m sold. This increases the odds that you pick a lock when you actually need to (legally). Now I want picks on everything. Like an emergency set that can somehow be added to shoes, maybe in the laces. Also an option for flip flops. I wear glasses, I wonder if you could hide a pick set in the frame.
So exciting! So proud of you. Such a masterpiece idea. The world needed something like this
Hi Ash,
couldn't they add an "ear" on the tensioner for a hole? Maybe it doesn't look that cool, but it would not have an impact on the tensioners then 🙂
It’s more that you really don’t want unprotected picks and turners in your pocket; they wouldn’t be protected as they are when they are together. Once used they would be better putting in a wallet or other kit
@@LockNoob Could they add a wing on the opposite side of the turning tool to give it a more symmetrical keylike profile? Looks great as it is, but thinking about improvements for future versions is never a bad thing
@@LockNoob except for the tensioners, I'd put them on a keysmart or similar then. The tensioners would go on the little ballchain, for easier access.
My first thought looking at those is, do you even need to pop the 2 halves apart. If there's enough flex between the tension half and the hook half, maybe you can insert as a normal key. Let the bottom rail handle the torque and let the top rail handle the pins. That was my first thought. Obviously this doesn't factor in various design concerns like size/shape of keyway, height of hook/rake, etc.
We missed this video. Fantastic product...🙏🎄
Those are incredible he was hoping you give a few out to your fans PS maybe you could make a 3D printed or plastic sheath to hold all three of them together and make it look like a key too that way you can't tell from a distance and it would keep them from getting bent in your pocket or damaged in any way hope you apply and he is helping I get a free set for commenting this
These are a great idea, love the design. An EDC that you can just forget about. Great stuff Lock Noob! And Sparrows being awesome like always.
cool idea! would be nice it they could be put back together though, but im not sure how that would work while still looking like a key
Love this idea very clever design Lock Noob we appreciate all your efforts towards locksport 👊🏻
Really a fantastic idea Ash ,I think you have a winner there my friend, price is reasonable also ....thanks for sharing.
I just received my set from Sparrows. Thanks for the cool design Lock Noob!
Hidden in plain sight.. Nice.
Well done keep up the good work Ash 👍
Once the key is separated you could just put a rubber key identification over the key super glue it before that and put it back on the key chain. Separate it again and again.
Im trying to buy all the stuff you design, can u slow down a bit because im still saving for your multipick set😂😂😂
Sorry 😆 do you like the designs tho?
Yep, definitely on my things to buy list
Love them can't wait to see some in the shops
Nice design, these are like a new ‘gypsy’ key!
I do like those as something that you can just put on your key ring and forget about until needed :)
Cool set and good price. Thank you for sharing.
Will be receiving your creative set Monday. Looking forward to using it as my edc. Very intuitive. Thank you Mr Noob!
I am just getting into the hobby , and really enjoying it , I started with a cheap set from Amazon , and have just bought a sparrows dark shift set because I liked the look of them , I also like the key breakaway set you just demonstrated, one big question that keeps popping up up on all the videos is , what set would you recommend for Euro locks?
Well done sir, I may have to invest in these
Thanks!
Another great design and a great set ash my friend👊👍😊🇬🇧😎
Another great addition to the 'picks world! I didn't catch any info on steel thickness?
Very nice! I don't think I will buy them, but I am a newbie and still have a lot to learn.
Nice offering, great idea!
Why not design a plastic/rubber keeper for the top of the “key” to keep it all together after the fact.
That design you’ve come up with is fantastic!
I picked up the set, and used some shrink tube after taking it apart. Still easily passes as a rubberized key head and holds it plenty tight for a round 2.
dont know how obvious it would look but you could put a bit of heat shrink on to carry the 2 parts together after broken apart.
This is an awesome design!
I really like the idea and if i wouldn't already carry a mace kit i would probably get a set... Maybe even anyway get one because one is none and two are one.... Greetings from France!
I've got a very flat and small penknife style set which I keep in the sheath of my multitool - that's always in my vest and I always wear my vest so no problem there. It could also fit into my wallet's coin pouch.
All said, the intent of these seems to be more to smuggle lock picks into areas where one would normally not be permitted to have them rather than an "emergency."
Still, thumbs up as they're neat little spy gadgets.
I will definitely be ordering a set I love the design
Great vid thanks lock noob was wandering is there any vids off cristin holler german lock picker
Great looking little set. I will definitely be ordering a couple. One to carry as is, and one to modify. I believe the two rakes would also double well as "try-out" keys with a little tweaking. Thinning out the width of the backbone area on the tension tool a little and then grinding the thickness of the working end to 0.015.
Congrats on another great design. Way to go!
The thing I really dislike about the credit card pick sets and things like these is that they are essentially a one-time use item. To actually practice with them to get the feel and carry them in their intended configuration, you'd have to buy two sets.
If you could sandwich a card-style set to make an ultra-thin case, I would be much more interested. Perhaps something with the punch-out piece in the center and two solid pieces on the outside, held together with adhesive and a clip or thin magnet.
Heck, you could even make the sides from plastic printed to look like a credit card.
Oh thats super freakin cool!!
I really think sparrows should give you some kind of pay for your intellectual property if they're going to profit from it themselves
Don’t get me wrong, there are different arrangements with different designs and companies. What I don’t ever want is sales profit as then I would have ‘skin in the game’ and would feel I have to ‘sell’ products. This would also impact my relationships with other companies
@@LockNoob thats realy a good mindset.👍
If I need any I fashion fileblades with a dremel for practice sets.
Nice. I do wish the bow looked just a bit more like a regular key, though, just to help it blend in on the keyring a little more.
I’m new to lock picking what set should I get love your videos
holy spirit what a grand idea amazing
💥😎PRETTY KOOL!👍
Great design my friend, you always dazzle me with your creativity, congratulations again for your work ;o)))
Great video. Just saw the release last night and already ordered a couple sets! Wicked design good sir. Keep up the awesome work
Love this idea! Brilliant!
Cool design! Do these work as a jiggler when fully assembled?
Probably not trivial, but would it not be possible to use a hollow key and store the pick and tension tool inside it? That way it would look exactly like a key, possibly a bit larger than a normal key, and it would not be for emergency use only.
It looks like a fun set, though looking on Sparrows new site, it looks like they are not using a short hook, and instead using an offset hybrid. Unless that was a previous design you had been exploring, and they just used that picture.
Yes, that’s an older picture
Sssooo cool! great idea Ash, thats awesome, really like those! 👍
A little effort but most seriously EDCers have multitools on their person, so separating shouldn’t be an issue for most who would carry
Glad you like them
Need to have per drilled holes in the tension wrench also so you can put them back on your key ring after using. Also woul like to see a rock out key on there instead of the L rake. Great design tho.👍
Great design! Is it only me who can't find them on the UK (Ca) site?
So cool. These are great.
Dude! Quit coming up with ideas to make me lose all my money 😆 deffo gonna pick up a set 👍
Really cool picks. Great idea.
Well done, a great concept!
You and the lock picking lawyer make lock picking look easy. I've been practicing picking on and of for years and it still takes me half and hour to open some locks. the ones I cant open I just cut them with bolt cutters. I just wish someone would invent an electronic smart key that can pick any key lock LOL 😂😂🤣🤣 one day keys will disappear and Locks will be all smart locks that work on your DNA or off your body sent in your hands ???
Very cool. This is something I’d totally get🤷🏼😂
Cool piece of kit. The only thing that would have been nice to see is a way to attach the tension tools to your keychain after being separated.
You wouldn’t want that, they would be very spiky and prone to being damaged
You could still keep the pick(s) on your key ring, but they would poke, and would be more obvious.
Cool kit! Now I'm waiting for a video of someone who has a lock/padlock where these actually work as a normal key! 😁
If u bend the back bit on handle side two one side it snaps open quick
They look like they may be used as a jiggler key also but im not sure? What do you think? 😊
All in one emergency credit card set may work.
Hey Ash, very cool project.
They'll definitely be on my next Sparrows order. They're definitely more practical than most of those credit card guys out there. Would be great to see another hook profile (maybe inspired by the SSDev guys) or two added in the next iteration.
It's certainly appropriate to have fun with your sport so long as you know there just for fun (and _maybe_ _might_ help you out in a pinch)
I think those that get butt-hurt over the novelty are either worried that someone wanting to learn will be turned off from picking because they got the wrong starter kit, are more on the field craft side and don't want to see someone getting a novelty as a talisman and not putting in the work or are just wannabes who have mastered the No.3 and are hiding behind a keyboard.
As to carrying tools in a non-permissive environment and getting caught, a good argument is that you're into lock sport (then you'll have to explain what that is) and it is just a novelty and keychain from one of the major manufacturers meant to represent the general shape of the tools that we use to emulate the key. "Look, this 'L' shape looks like the turning tool, this wavy part looks like a popular rake and the whole thing looks like the key that we don't have. Pretty neat, right?" If it's pushed any more that "But you could still use it." "Well, yeah, sorta. But I bet we could scrounge up some other bits of metal around here to improvise tools to get a lock open. See that windshield wiper over there?"...
Unless it's law enforcement, then shut up until you speak with your lawyer. (Speaking to those in the USA. Other places, ymmv.)
You are better off buying the Nightcrawler set. You get more picks and better tension wrenches.
What an excellent idea
You're not on your own, I like this kind of kit, especially when it actually works. Well done, I'll be putting an order in. 👋
like a uk version of the lightning link!
If they are for emergencies....you would not use it for your own lockout because you have your keys on your already or you don't. So they would be used to help out a friend only 🤷🏻♂️. They look cool anyway
Very nice and covert. Wish I'd thought of this. Well done Noob, I think your next gadget will be even better.
Great job.
Awesome kit design. It’s a shame they are not on there site that ships to UK. Will have to wait for Chinese to boot leg before we can get it in the UK.
Sweet!
so... car keys have that plastic looking thing. what if it was used to house a MO{}OM
where the M is the spring.
where the O is a tension ball
and where the {} is the end of the tension tool so it pressure fits into a locked position inside the plastic housing the the key.
then the rake could remain as the fixed key part of the tool.
also then you could re store the tension tool in the key.
Saw the preview on Locksportcast and was hoping to see you do this vid soon. Gonna have to get a set of these for sure; the price, functionality, and concept as great 😎 I'd been thinking about unblading a key-knife and putting in some picks inside instead, but this is SO much cooler. Top-grade all around sir 🤩
The missing piece is a (3d printed) plastic header to hold all the 3*2 parts together
Cool idea
Those are so cool.
What do you think comparing these Hold Out keys with Sparrows Mace picks?
Absolutely Fab-U-lous. I'm sure someone will come up with a plastic key cover with the Sparrows logo on to put it back together :-D
Well done mate 👍 🍻