Because he is being pro company and looks more like an ad, he could be harsh about it like the brass is so soft, easily cut with a 10$ powered reciprocal saw
@@shable1436 they make a steal one, and sure lol, try that, be my guest, you'd be there screaming away for 3 mins. HEY, HI, IM STEALING YOU SHIT! And of course he's pro company, he's a lock geek, this is the first real advance in mechanical lock tech in out lifetime, this lock is a big fucking deal. Looks like your down 18::1 on your opinion as well, yikes.
@@leexgx Is it $500? Because that's what the locks with integrated GPS trackers cost. On the plus side, you'll get (superior) Medeco keyway and keys with it.
I own one of these locks. I have it mounted on an automatic garage door. After getting my garage door broken into several times I finally found a padlock that nobody can pick. They might cut it off but they aren't going to pick it or bump it. I paid 225 for my lock and it's not brass I had it shipped from Bowley Lock Company in Canada to Georgia, U.S.A. It took me a while to learn how to unlock it with the key but once you get used to it it's as easy as any other lock. That key is not going to bend or break in your pocket. There is nothing made cheap about this lock. That key is stainless Steele. I love my padlock.
Does the key ever snag anything? I wear my keys on my belt loop, and I could definitely see that key ruining a sweater, catching a nylon strap, or snagging on other things. Has that been a problem?
@@ectoa5093 well, he apparently did try to pick a one-sided bowley core ( 636 ) and failed, so I guess it's fair that he didn't attempt to pick the two.sided one
11mm shackle! Awesome as it means it will work in most self storage units. What people don't realize is that if a lock can be picked leaving no signs, your insurance won't pay. Forced entry will be required to bypass this. This lock defeats storage places with rotten employees or managers.
I didn't think of that. It'll at least make it less of an easy target than someone else's storage. Motion sensors that "phone home" are probably better, though.
@@ChickenPermissionOG that is absolutly correct. Without any sign of damage on lock insurance company won't pay you. Luckilly thiefs know that and usually make sure there are visible scratches (made after succesful lock picking) just so your insurance company pays you. What is the source of that? Thiefs who got caught tella the police and that part of information (after the case is closed) is not secret so they told to tv/news reporters.
@@ChickenPermissionOG Why doubt it? You think insurance will pay without an investigation? Claim are rejected if there's no clear proof. Insurance companies are businesses not charity.
I love that despite all the warding and the idler making both tensioning and picking monumentally difficult, they still took the time to make security pins in there. It almost feels unsporting at that pont, like adding a fourth phase to the boss fight.
Uhhhh- Well, “difficult”. I think it’s basically impossible if you only use traditional to modern methods. You’d need a picking tool that’s shaped like that specific key to even have a chance to get to the pins. Amazing craftsmanship to make such a lock. I hope they can make similar locks, more compact, maybe cheaper.
It's because the cost difference between standard and security pins is so marginal that when you're making a lock the costs well north of $100 not adding security pins is just disrespectful to the customers at that point (this is realistically the case at any lock over $20 but that's besides the point)
yeah tough luck 'cos if you're going to steal a bike you're more likely to come prepared with lock breaking tools, and breaking a chain with a ramset sounds pretty impossible to me.
The only additional protection this adds over regular locks is the 0.000000001% of people who could possible pick it. Better off buying a $30 padlock 🔐
@@TheNuclearBolton I'm a fairly recent lockpicker myself and many cheap padlocks like that don't really require much skill as far as I'm aware of. It usually requires tools tho. There are rake-able locks in that price range. I even showed a co-worker who has never done it before and she picked up a lock in a couple of minutes, first try
@@Shuffle_Gaming yeah especially i work as a Landscaper and we secure our (wooden) tool chests with padlocks if someone really would want our tool they would break the chest or attack literally anything else. locks are honestly only there to keep people from casually stealing your shit. if someone wants to steal your stuff they will find a way
I figure at some point putting more tines into the key will make the metal shroud less effective since you now only have to reach around 45 degrees rather than a full 180 with the original lock.
Customer: "Hey Mr. Banker, why do you have two separate safe doors, side-by-side on your vault?" Mr. Banker: "The first one had a Bowley lock and we lost the keys. It was the easiest solution..."
@@georgiykireev9678 Sufficient brute force will destroy ANY lock. Think diamond drill or plasma cutter. The point of the lock is to make you use brute force.
Ever see the episode of The Andy Griffith Show where they forget the combination to the safe so they install a screen door in the alley to get in? Hilarious.
@@DavidFMayerPhD personally, i'd go for a sledgehammer... if you hit it downwards, you're only fighting 2 parts, depending on what they use to lock the loop in place, it could be easier than cutting the loop or drilling the body
The elegance of this lock really puts me in a good mood about human beings in general. Also, thanks for keeping your channel and videos simple: no music, no swirling logos, just the good stuff.
Also Bowley: And ya know what, add a spool pin and serrated pin just in case somebody manages to get a pick in there, just to make it that much harder.
I watch this channel, and I don't care about locks. I watch "Forgotten Weapons", and I _really_ don't care about guns. I just enjoy mechanisms, and skilled people explaining them to dumb-me :-)
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that this one is probably the closest a lock will ever get to being “pickproof” in a long time. Edit: I’d like to reiterate that I said PICK-proof. A cutting wheel and a blowtorch is not lock picking
The thing is, that this here is a commercially mass produceable lock, while the stuff made here one is so incredibly specific and has so many unreliable parts, that you cant realistically mass produce it
I own a Bowley 543 in hardened Stainless and I can say after 2 years outdoors in the Pacific Northwest with once weekly use, it still looks as good as the day I bought it. Beautifully made product and as LPL says, the key is much more robust than it appears. Great conversation piece for many people, lock nerds, machinists, people in high theft areas...
@@majan6267 And 500€ is not even a lot for a bike. You can easily spend thousands for a bike. Now put in some E-bike components and you are looking at a 3000-5000€ bike if you want premium everything.
He said in the video he’d need to make a custom tool to pick it so it’s probably a lot of work to make a tool that’d only be usable on a very specific lock.
@@caster269 I think the u-shape pick also needs to be pin-specific because of the pin shield. You cannot pick all the pins with the same lenght tool. If there's a key, sure it's pickable, but I guess this would need 5 to 9 custom single picks and a lot of time.
when I found this channel I were wondering if there was a lock he couldn't (or at least wouldn't try to) lockpick, and now I found a video. I feel like I have just experienced the satisfaction of scratching an itch I didn't even know I had.
@@BMikeAD actually good point. in a workshop I know of in canada, the main measure is inches, so American machinery can be used. which makes sense for a machined lock...
j Walster that’s not the reason we use imperial. Canada is not fully metric due to our roots being tied to the UK (before they were metric) and our close proximity to the US so when they began the conversion to metric in the 70’s there was a lot of resistance so it’s a big mish mash of both. We use kilometres instead of miles and litres instead of gallons at gas stations but when talking about length and weight, we usually use feet/inches and pounds. Height, weight, how much you bench, the length of a room, size of your tv, length of a piece of lumber or a pool, etc. We use mainly imperial in government documents, even our height is listed in centimetres on our drivers licences but in everyday life we use imperial for height and weight.
@@sarasotauptoseattle Were those two locks ones where you just put something inside and jiggle it around and it opens? So basically were they Master Locks?
@@hulksmash3429 No. They were combination padlocks. I didn't use any tools. I just put tension on the shackles and moved the dials until I felt them set, then "Presto".
I think it's the first time I've heard LPL give a compliment to a lock. The engineering on this thing is awe inspiring. I'm a mechanic and this is so interesting to me!
@@Cailloumax That generates noise, and noise brings unwanted attention. Running around with tools big enough to break through this giant thing also attract some attention.
I think that Bowley's willingness to let LPL disassemble their lock on video speaks to the excellence of the design. Whats really smart about it is if you were to invent a pick for this, it would somehow have to be able to push in, then BACK DOWN the lock and still be able to push the pins in... and even if you COULD make a pick that complex, the components would be so thin that torsioning the lock would make them snap. It's impeccable engineering.
They gave him the smaller door lock before thus and he went down the list of picking method and why they wouldn't work. Bowley is the gold standard of unpickable
Thanks to you, if I ever need a secure lock I will consider Bowley locks. Because they're just genius! Make the lock pick proof by adding in a mechanism where only the key can get access to the pins? Brilliant!
This may be one of my favourite LPL videos just because you can tell how excited he is to be playing with a new toy :) Always fun watching him tear apart a terrible lock, but seeing this is definitely a highlight too.
I love technology like this. Fascinating the amount of science and tech that goes into creating a mechanical device. That said if that was a key you had on your keyring, it looks like those two "hooks" might snag on everything... clothing, etc.
Preston Henson Oh, is that just an Australian delicacy? Salad is iceberg lettuce, slice of tomato, some onion, some grated carrot, some avocado, a couple of slices of sweet beetroot and some mayonnaise! Of course it can contain anything you prefer!
As far as the key goes even if it is strong and won’t break I would honestly worry about it getting fought on something. I wouldn’t mind seeing like a rubber cap or something for the key
The design makes it get caught on stuff such as rubber bands, another Keychain if you have multiple, hair ties if your female and use them, etc. Rubber cap would be great
Thing is, this wouldn't be an original concept and he wanted to try and approach the project with no prior knowledge of locks. It's what made his original locks actually very impressive and difficult to pick (lpl didn't actually pick any of them he just exploited other weaknesses which are more easily removed)
@@terrorhuhn9192 Yeah, you could build a very specialized tool that could open this easy. I have some ideas about the design. But such a tool would never be proliferated beyond a handful of ethical enthusiasts with a high degree of manufacturing capability who would never try to pick a lock they didn't own themselves. It would never have a commercial market, so they'd have to be custom made by said enthusiasts, and even if the plans were made available publicly, no criminal would spend the time and money to custom build their own for a lock they're probably never going to see in the real world anyway. The threat model becomes a state actor with an unlimited budget and they're probably not targeting you unless you're doing something very illegal or very unusual. And that that point, what is the chances for a sneak-and-peek over more kinetic alternatives by some tier 1 types at 3 AM ending with you in a head bag or body bag? If they wanted to do a sneak-and-peek, I'm sure they could always just destroy the lock, replace it with an identical one, and you wouldn't know the difference anyway. Heck, they could replace your whole door. They'd get things down even to the scuff marks and paint chips. Is there a weaker part in your security, such inadequate intrusion detection? A lock this good is only good for forcing a destructive entry so you can file a police report and insurance claims. Or, for simple enjoyment by lock nerds who like knowing they have one of the most secure locks on the market. I would say the latter is the majority of Bowley's current customer base.
Stuff made a similar concept where the pins weren't accessible to picking, although he used a different method to achieve that. It was actually quite a good design. He didn't know enough about bypass methods to guard for them though so that's how lpl got through it. With some tweaks it would be a good lock.
@@Chetanarora2308 what? i cant hear you, i have my airpods in. also not sure if you're joking about it or not, but wireless in-ear headphones have been a thing for a while and apples suck just as much as the rest
That is why the keyring goes into ur left pocket and ur phone WITH the headphones I to the right pocket of ur pants. This way it can be easily avoided and wouldnt even have to shed 2 brain cells to come up with that idea.
I started lock picking recently thanks to this channel. And I have found a lot of joy in this hobby. That being said, I've never had a nerd gasm like I have after seeing this lock.
Dude your voice is top-tier ASMR material. I love just listening to your commentary, I sometimes put you on autoplay for background noise while I'm working on my projects. Keep it up!
I think it would be a good option to have the lock without any company or other identifiers on it. Reason being, might prevent someone from looking up videos on how to pick or otherwise circumvent the lock.
zwz • zdenek Honestly I think it'd be interesting to see if a theif tries and fails and possibly gets caught instead of moving to easier targets to steal from.
I don't think any thief, even unaware of what lock he's facing, would spend more than a minute on this before figuring out that he doesn't stand a chance.
Never thought i'd find these videos so enjoyedable but damn the random lock facts and the excitement watching you pick it hoping you fail but knowing you're going to open it everytime is a thrill.
Damn this lock is crazy, closest thing I've seen to unpickable that I can think of. I think making a pick to work on this would take some serious time and skill
Such a beautifully designed piece of work and without a keen eye the likelihood of someone breaking into it is just so minimal that you would not even have to worry.
@@MrPeelcam hmm... Should a trust a Canadian that they aren't part of a Canadian cult?... IDK... Seems suspicious. Haha I'm just kidding, I have no clue what's going on, I'm just joking around because I'm bored. Side note, go chug some syrup and say sorry to someone for absolutely no reason, this is what comedy media tells me you people do LMAO prove you're a normal Canadian and not a cult follower, cults never apologize. And they are far to bitter to enjoy sweet things like syrup, or so I'd like to assume.
Five quarters of an inch thick..... I can't say I've ever heard of something that is 1.25 inches thick being referred to as 5 quarters of an inch thick. I kind of like it though.
My guy... I don’t know if you’re a ethical picker, lock making engineer, or just a man who likes to break into things but you got me thinking about locks. I now appreciate my kryptonite lock I bought for my carbon bike and suddenly have an urge to start collecting these mechanical marvels.. good for you!!
I have serial #001 of this lock. It"s an impressive size and weight with decent fit and finish.The pawl retaining pins are not flush ground on mine. I would certainly buy the steel version for higher security use although it's a beast and dwarves the Abloy 656. Correction: I just checked and it is actually marked '1 of 235' so it may not be the first of the collectors edition as I haven't checked to see if they are sequentially numbered.
the lock is only like 150$ about. Its expensive but its not crazy expensive for a high security lock. You use this for applications where the thing youre protecting is worth far more than 150$, maybe something like a storage unit or shed, where the tools and materials you have inside are far more valuable.
@@jeffperron3915 its not, its just the internet, you can never tell when people are being sarcastic or not without things like voice infliction or facial reactions. Youd be surprised at the number of people on here who actually think dumb things that youd expect were sarcastic.
"My name is Tessa. I am seven years old, and I watch your videos and they are so good. You're so good at doing locks." - my daughter and your biggest fan.
Yes, there’s a groove in the idler, and the pins act as a detent. It happens to be in the wrong place on this lock because of revisions to the prototype, but it will be corrected in the production lock.
@@lockpickinglawyer If someone was to come and spin the idler with a shim, it would make the lock unusable with the key correct? Seams like an easy way to prevent someone from taking what ever they have locked up until the attacker can come back with power tools.
@@ionstorm66 he said the pins act as a detent (meaning you would have to use enough force to shear the pins with the idler, at which point you've already won)
@@ionstorm66 that's a bad strategy to employ. If you can't retrieve your item you typically call someone to break the lock and stand by it during that time. Also these are typically for stationary objects (storage units) which are easier to get you or authorities to guard
So this is just a musing curiosity because I totally agree with LPL and his mission of holding lock makers accountable for trash locks and informing people about locks to avoid. But does anyone else ever think, 'If I was a thief, LPL would be my hero.' ?? Hahaha love the work you do, boss!
Very nice looking lock, and some amazing engineering. If I had anything valuable, I might want one of those. Being fairly poor, I just buy locks to pick, not to lock up my nonexistent valuables. I wouldn't try picking one of those, even if I could afford one. It would just sit on a shelf looking pretty. Thank you for showing this lock dissected.
you jest but some e-bikes cost upwards of $3,000. One of my relatives is a bike courier/messenger in Chicago. He needs a good bike since his livelihood is effectively dependent on it an you can bet your ass he doesn't use some shitty masterlock or a chinesium chain on his bike.
@Zeb McCollum Are you sure? When you wrote this the lock had been out for about 3 months. Assuming that you've had this lock for about a month, why on earth would someone sell their $200+, 2 month old lock for $20?
The downside of a lock like that is if it's used on a storage locker or a door with a hasp . It screams I cost a small fortune and I am probably guarding something amazing . So forget picking just blast through some other way like cutting the door or wall or driving a truck through the door or wall , acetylene torch etc etc. Great design , if I ever got one I would dummy it up to look average as to not draw attention .
Its much easier than that. Lots of storage units are ticky tack construction and if you have a lock that too tough on one, you simply cut the lock on the one next to it that likely isnt then use a oscillating cutter to cut a hole in the wall and then loot it. Not hard. Also not fast so what you would want to do is, contrive a way to rent the unit next to the unit you want to rob then using your legit access, use a drill to start the cut in the wall with an open ended hacksaw, leaving like an inch uncut at the tops and side in the corners and then 'break in' illegitimate later and cut your own lock, finish opening the wall and loot. 'Steal' some of your own stuff as well so as to not look suspicious. Of course this is a very complicated and pretty much heist movie type plan. Not likely to be successful. Besides what would you do if you got into the other room and the item in it was too large to come out through the hole in the wall? I mean if you had a battery powered oscillating tool, and some extra batteries, you might be able to open a hole in a wall pretty quick especially if you have a team. You might be able to take out an entire panel between studs. But its still a pretty complicated thing. You are gonna be in a hurry, likely to leave your tools there unless you rehearse a lot or wear a tool belt or back pack.
@@metamorphicorder Well that has certainly happened . Someone got in a unit we bought at auction the night after . We were separating the good stuff and after an hour I looked around and asked my buddy where is the Dyson vacuum . It was 300 easy at the flea market but it was bigger than most of the smaller stuff and some of that stuff was somewhat valuable . I saw that the loser just crawled out from the side unit through the metal chicken wire that was only twisted down with bailing wire . He was probably ripping off every unit in that entire floor . We told the manager about it and they didn't really seem disturbed by it . They were like ah oh well we can make a note of it and that's about it . I just bid and clean them out then sell what's sellible .
Oh, I finally understood what he meant by "You will dump a lot of pins" in regards to disassembling it while it's unlocked. The actuator goes in a hole that is just big enough for the ball bearings to fit through, so when the lock is unlocked, the ball bearings are stuck to the magnet of the actuatory and if you try to pull out the locking mechanism, the lock will gut itself because you're effectively pull the bible off the core, which is being held inside the lock body by the bearings. If the lock is locked, the bearings are out of the way and stay inside the lock nody while you pull out the mechanism
Ha they've got your videos up on their website. They really appreciate you.
Because he is being pro company and looks more like an ad, he could be harsh about it like the brass is so soft, easily cut with a 10$ powered reciprocal saw
@@shable1436 they make a steal one, and sure lol, try that, be my guest, you'd be there screaming away for 3 mins. HEY, HI, IM STEALING YOU SHIT! And of course he's pro company, he's a lock geek, this is the first real advance in mechanical lock tech in out lifetime, this lock is a big fucking deal. Looks like your down 18::1 on your opinion as well, yikes.
@@index7787 you mean steel right?
@just a channel i guess there's no use in pointing out that brain damaged is 2 words then huh..
@@UnacceptableViews You should have a question mark at the end of your sentence.
-Sees bike with *this* lock.
-*Breaks* *lock's* *chain*
-*Leaves* *bike* *steals* *lock*
I mean, you won't be able to use the lock since you wouldn't be able to pick it open. It would just be a trophy.
But it'd be an _awesome_ trophy.
I hope it have a integrated GPS tracker in it for that price
You are obviously not familiar with hardened security chain.
@@leexgx Is it $500? Because that's what the locks with integrated GPS trackers cost. On the plus side, you'll get (superior) Medeco keyway and keys with it.
@@agentvx8320 bro, chill.. it was a joke
Imagine making a lock and it being highly regarded by the lpl
If it’s gonna happen it’s gonna be the next vid
I've never seen a lock he can't pick.....
@@JeffandcutieAnya I've seem him use gallium to eat threw locks this guy is the lock terminator lawyer
Sponsored content always gets praised.
@@nekomushi7067 probably because he only accepts the ones he likes
I own one of these locks. I have it mounted on an automatic garage door. After getting my garage door broken into several times I finally found a padlock that nobody can pick. They might cut it off but they aren't going to pick it or bump it. I paid 225 for my lock and it's not brass I had it shipped from Bowley Lock Company in Canada to Georgia, U.S.A.
It took me a while to learn how to unlock it with the key but once you get used to it it's as easy as any other lock. That key is not going to bend or break in your pocket. There is nothing made cheap about this lock. That key is stainless Steele. I love my padlock.
Does the key ever snag anything? I wear my keys on my belt loop, and I could definitely see that key ruining a sweater, catching a nylon strap, or snagging on other things. Has that been a problem?
@@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty If you're worried about the key snagging, you could wrap the key in something.
@@Indigo199517 there's also covers for the blade of the key
Just camp out in your garage and shoot the robbers in the face. Simple
I’ve heard that master locks are really hard to pick
You know it's a good lock when he doesn't even try to pick it
It was more of a sponsor, so he wouldn’t show off how to pick it. But im not sure how you’d pick around that pin shield anyway
@@ectoa5093 well, he apparently did try to pick a one-sided bowley core ( 636 ) and failed, so I guess it's fair that he didn't attempt to pick the two.sided one
@@enteelch1717 fair point
@@ectoa5093 nope its cuz he cant pick it 🤣🤣 he just wont admit it
@@pawelwityk1963 he admitted it in video 636.
11mm shackle! Awesome as it means it will work in most self storage units. What people don't realize is that if a lock can be picked leaving no signs, your insurance won't pay. Forced entry will be required to bypass this. This lock defeats storage places with rotten employees or managers.
I doubt that.
I didn't think of that. It'll at least make it less of an easy target than someone else's storage. Motion sensors that "phone home" are probably better, though.
@Robert Slackware Ye olde Silence of the Lambs storage setup
@@ChickenPermissionOG that is absolutly correct. Without any sign of damage on lock insurance company won't pay you.
Luckilly thiefs know that and usually make sure there are visible scratches (made after succesful lock picking) just so your insurance company pays you.
What is the source of that? Thiefs who got caught tella the police and that part of information (after the case is closed) is not secret so they told to tv/news reporters.
@@ChickenPermissionOG Why doubt it? You think insurance will pay without an investigation? Claim are rejected if there's no clear proof. Insurance companies are businesses not charity.
"The other variations of this lock were given to two other channels"
My brain: "three rings were given to the elves"
How come im the only reply so far? This is a whole month later
Daniel Liu because it’s a year old vid not many are scrolling through the comments after a year
@@AlleywayMurder but the thing is that before a month there should be people replying
Daniel Liu no
@@AlleywayMurder If you say so... In my opinion someone should have replied about a month ago.
I love that despite all the warding and the idler making both tensioning and picking monumentally difficult, they still took the time to make security pins in there. It almost feels unsporting at that pont, like adding a fourth phase to the boss fight.
That 4th phase is called an Encore. ;)
Uhhhh- Well, “difficult”. I think it’s basically impossible if you only use traditional to modern methods. You’d need a picking tool that’s shaped like that specific key to even have a chance to get to the pins. Amazing craftsmanship to make such a lock. I hope they can make similar locks, more compact, maybe cheaper.
It's because the cost difference between standard and security pins is so marginal that when you're making a lock the costs well north of $100 not adding security pins is just disrespectful to the customers at that point (this is realistically the case at any lock over $20 but that's besides the point)
@@kenjiroumiyamoto1432as far as I know, no one has successfully picked this lock to date. I could be wrong on this but this is a very secure lock
@@kenjiroumiyamoto1432 so you essentially need the key, to pick the lock without a key...
Probably easier to attack the chain at that point.
yeah tough luck 'cos if you're going to steal a bike you're more likely to come prepared with lock breaking tools, and breaking a chain with a ramset sounds pretty impossible to me.
Certainly the weakest link
better yet, dismantle the bike and sell it part by part
I think it's cheaper to cut a section off the bike rack and steal the bike lock and chain together
@@mx_nana_banana I've heard the battery powered angle grinder being used
Only thing I've seen that he hasn't been able to pick.
That's a LOCK.
The only additional protection this adds over regular locks is the 0.000000001% of people who could possible pick it. Better off buying a $30 padlock 🔐
@@TheNuclearBolton I'm a fairly recent lockpicker myself and many cheap padlocks like that don't really require much skill as far as I'm aware of. It usually requires tools tho. There are rake-able locks in that price range. I even showed a co-worker who has never done it before and she picked up a lock in a couple of minutes, first try
@@revolt_4588 that's not the lock I was talking about. I was responding to NuclearBolton about the security being good enough with a 30 dollar padlock
@@Shuffle_Gaming yeah especially i work as a Landscaper and we secure our (wooden) tool chests with padlocks
if someone really would want our tool they would break the chest or attack literally anything else. locks are honestly only there to keep people from casually stealing your shit. if someone wants to steal your stuff they will find a way
What have you stolen so far ?
as an apprentice machinist, i can appreciate the cuts and finishes of the parts, great lock! now to use it to lock up my $40 walmart bike
Don't worry, the lock will not be damaged.
They'll break the bike and steal the lock.
dont be suprised if you find your bike flexed apart and the lock being gone
@@Cenentury0941 I’ll
@@Cenentury0941 sa
Did I ask about your stupid ass Walmart bike
"Bigger isn't always better, if it renders the lock unusable."
Wise words for many applications.
Different shackles fit different holes, all a matter of preference
"That's what SHE said?!" Lol
Exactly the Same as a large penis vs a small vagina i guess 🤷♂️
Do you want a key that opens up every lock, or a lock thats opened by every key?
-the vibes I got from this comment 😂
Yeah a big hammer proves to be more of a hinderance as time has went on
Never knew I had a lock fetish until I found this channel.
Jungle Ginger lmao
Hahah, it’s the journey that’s exciting.
Me too, strangely :D
x2
I just became like number 666
"Mr Bowley, we're making our first ever padlock, what security features should we put in it?"
**"All of them"**
Dillon Warcup The funny answer is ”Yes”
And double it
Eeeeeeeveeeeeeerythiiiiiiiing
u forgot the *bold*
edit thanks u fixed it
Oh! Don't forget to send it to LPL
WHAT?!
This thing is going to need a special "Tool that BosnianBill and I designed" to pick it.
Hahahahahuhhuhahhhuahuaahuha
That's what I was thinking. Maybe a cable-pulled rake?
Unfortunately, it'll never happen....
Guts theme plays when you realize BosnianBill will never design a tool with LPL again
@@RealCoolstriker64 hhhhhhhhhwhy?
Now I want to see a quadruple Bowley lock with a cross-shaped keyway.
I figure at some point putting more tines into the key will make the metal shroud less effective since you now only have to reach around 45 degrees rather than a full 180 with the original lock.
@@khangtruong98 Good point.
So, the key from the 5th Element.
That is literally just lock pickers nightmare
More. More! MORE! Mooooooaaaaarrrr!
Customer: "Hey Mr. Banker, why do you have two separate safe doors, side-by-side on your vault?"
Mr. Banker: "The first one had a Bowley lock and we lost the keys. It was the easiest solution..."
Jokes aside, this doesn't look too hard to brute force through if you really want to
@@georgiykireev9678 Sufficient brute force will destroy ANY lock. Think diamond drill or plasma cutter. The point of the lock is to make you use brute force.
Ever see the episode of The Andy Griffith Show where they forget the combination to the safe so they install a screen door in the alley to get in? Hilarious.
Their lock was easily picked.
@@DavidFMayerPhD personally, i'd go for a sledgehammer... if you hit it downwards, you're only fighting 2 parts, depending on what they use to lock the loop in place, it could be easier than cutting the loop or drilling the body
The elegance of this lock really puts me in a good mood about human beings in general. Also, thanks for keeping your channel and videos simple: no music, no swirling logos, just the good stuff.
remember, it is because of humans that this lock was needed in the first place
@@mischievousone3421 exactly
Bowley: has U shaped key that’s nearly unpickable
Also bowley: another one
W ones
A double U shape is you will ;']
next up three u's
Also Bowley: And ya know what, add a spool pin and serrated pin just in case somebody manages to get a pick in there, just to make it that much harder.
they could also slap in some pin traps like video 1181, that would be overkill tho
I’m not a lock enthusiast, but I’ve been a fan of your channel, and this video has shown the absolute beauty of how a lock can be. I’m blown away
I watch this channel, and I don't care about locks. I watch "Forgotten Weapons", and I _really_ don't care about guns. I just enjoy mechanisms, and skilled people explaining them to dumb-me :-)
I love how (relatively) simple but incredibly effective this lock design is... Hats off to Bowley
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that this one is probably the closest a lock will ever get to being “pickproof” in a long time.
Edit: I’d like to reiterate that I said PICK-proof. A cutting wheel and a blowtorch is not lock picking
@@abrother9821 I was boutta mention this video 😁
@@abrother9821 Even if the Stuff Made Here lock turns out to be pickable, I doubt it will be pickable with any existing, well known methods.
@@abrother9821 The avarice of "it's unpickable if it doesn't have a key." That's what bypassing is for, friend.
The thing is, that this here is a commercially mass produceable lock, while the stuff made here one is so incredibly specific and has so many unreliable parts, that you cant realistically mass produce it
I mean arent digital looks pickproof
Even tho most have some sort of exploitable thing
i wish he had a playlist for his favorite locks, i’m really interested.
I own a Bowley 543 in hardened Stainless and I can say after 2 years outdoors in the Pacific Northwest with once weekly use, it still looks as good as the day I bought it. Beautifully made product and as LPL says, the key is much more robust than it appears. Great conversation piece for many people, lock nerds, machinists, people in high theft areas...
When the lock cost more than your bike
Use a lock to lock up the lock
you put the lock on your bike, and another lock so they can't steal the lock.
When i got myself a new bike after the old one was stolen, i decided to go at least 1:4 so my 500€ bike is now protected by a 125€ Abus Granit lock
@@majan6267 And 500€ is not even a lot for a bike. You can easily spend thousands for a bike. Now put in some E-bike components and you are looking at a 3000-5000€ bike if you want premium everything.
Yeah should be 1 1/4.
"five quarters of an inch"
wtf guys, this is really getting out of control
Annoy-o-tronino Kripperino cracked me up this is funny af
Yeah, it's so improper.
Eric Y you could say it’s an improper fraction...
@@PandaMan937 That's the joke.
Wait till you try adjusting your guitar neck and find an American manual talking about 7/64th of an inch..
I'm sad you didn't even try to pick it
I'm sure it's because he can't because Bowley locks are crazy.
He said in the video he’d need to make a custom tool to pick it so it’s probably a lot of work to make a tool that’d only be usable on a very specific lock.
@@caster269 I think the u-shape pick also needs to be pin-specific because of the pin shield. You cannot pick all the pins with the same lenght tool. If there's a key, sure it's pickable, but I guess this would need 5 to 9 custom single picks and a lot of time.
He can't.
He can't yet, no one can. They will eventually.
when I found this channel I were wondering if there was a lock he couldn't (or at least wouldn't try to) lockpick, and now I found a video. I feel like I have just experienced the satisfaction of scratching an itch I didn't even know I had.
10:43 I love rare earth maggots
Lol. Me too!
How do they work
@@darrianweathington1923 very well
X-D
LockPickingLawyer great videos. Sometime you should put a lock back together that you have torn apart
-canadian lock
-measured in inches
We use both here.
@@BMikeAD actually good point. in a workshop I know of in canada, the main measure is inches, so American machinery can be used. which makes sense for a machined lock...
j Walster that’s not the reason we use imperial. Canada is not fully metric due to our roots being tied to the UK (before they were metric) and our close proximity to the US so when they began the conversion to metric in the 70’s there was a lot of resistance so it’s a big mish mash of both. We use kilometres instead of miles and litres instead of gallons at gas stations but when talking about length and weight, we usually use feet/inches and pounds. Height, weight, how much you bench, the length of a room, size of your tv, length of a piece of lumber or a pool, etc. We use mainly imperial in government documents, even our height is listed in centimetres on our drivers licences but in everyday life we use imperial for height and weight.
@@dlee6985 Being Canadian can be complicated.
BMikeAD same in the USA. Science trades tend to use metric.
Imagine him going to one of the bridges where there are a bunch of lovelocks. He is there and after like 5 min all lovelocks gone.
Probably he can make money off that
There are people that are paid to cut the locks off as the weight could cause a collapse if left alone too long.
I was just at one of those bridges. I was able to get two locks without any tools.
@@sarasotauptoseattle Were those two locks ones where you just put something inside and jiggle it around and it opens? So basically were they Master Locks?
@@hulksmash3429 No. They were combination padlocks. I didn't use any tools. I just put tension on the shackles and moved the dials until I felt them set, then "Presto".
I think it's the first time I've heard LPL give a compliment to a lock. The engineering on this thing is awe inspiring. I'm a mechanic and this is so interesting to me!
OH MY GOD... My worst nightmare. A lock that he can't pick. This lock is too dangerous to exist
He says the body is brass, meaning that you can destroy it with standard cutting tools
@@Cailloumax Non destructive, Not Everyone can break a lock on the go
@@Cailloumax Yeah you can but your not gonna be very stealthy.
@@Cailloumax That generates noise, and noise brings unwanted attention. Running around with tools big enough to break through this giant thing also attract some attention.
Important word you're missing is "yet"
Lockpickinglawyer: doesn't even attempt to pick the lock
Me: I'll take your entire stock
$163 US is pretty expensive though
@@bazil4146 the joy of the security arms race.
And whatever it's locking to needs to be as strong as the lock.
I don't even care about locks, but for some reason you somehow make me binge-watch lock videos
I think that Bowley's willingness to let LPL disassemble their lock on video speaks to the excellence of the design. Whats really smart about it is if you were to invent a pick for this, it would somehow have to be able to push in, then BACK DOWN the lock and still be able to push the pins in... and even if you COULD make a pick that complex, the components would be so thin that torsioning the lock would make them snap. It's impeccable engineering.
LPL: *something about pins*
Me, who has no idea what he's talking about But likes his content anyway: :)
why you attacking me?
You eventually understand what is he talking about, its a weird way of learning
I have no clue but i been learning.
Must be your first video :p
Me this guy does
You know the locks good when the videos over 5 mins
And that's even without him trying to pick it.
I love this Lock, this is what I call a Lock.
I would aswell call it a lock.
Here, here!I vote to call it a lock also.
@@ClearAdventure I call it a parrot.
Y'all are dumb as hell.
@@catlover732
Who would lock up a parrot?
@@joezeigler1064 r/whooosh
I really like locks with exotic keys because it often means that you need a much rarer tool or skill set to open it. Which makes it much more secure.
This key legit look like a keyblade design that could be used in Kingdom Hearts 3.
I said something similar!
Lam Duong Tung 🤣🤣😂hell yeah
Yeeees
It would be the most secure kingdom hearts ever!
LPL: This is a very nice product.
Me: Just ordered one even I have no use for it.
Did you ever find a use for it?
Still waiting if you found a use
It’s going up on my Christmas tree this year.
@@altercaze that's one secure tree
That tree is now bullet resistant in one place
Can you imagine the excitement when the Bowley lock company saw his video and he couldn't pick it!
They gave him the smaller door lock before thus and he went down the list of picking method and why they wouldn't work.
Bowley is the gold standard of unpickable
He couldn't pick the original so they already knew he couldn't pick the upgraded version.
Tears in their eyes! :)
Thanks to you, if I ever need a secure lock I will consider Bowley locks. Because they're just genius! Make the lock pick proof by adding in a mechanism where only the key can get access to the pins? Brilliant!
This may be one of my favourite LPL videos just because you can tell how excited he is to be playing with a new toy :) Always fun watching him tear apart a terrible lock, but seeing this is definitely a highlight too.
I love how he doesn't even attempt to lockpick it.
I think the short answer is that he could do it, but he would need to build a custom tool to actually access the pins.
@@GR20000 That's true, although I did watch this when I first started watching his videos so I didn't know the amount of skill that this guy has.
@@GR20000 couldn't you just make a key?
@@CamdalftheGreat he mentions in 636 how difficult it is to impression
@@mhx5071 thanks! I'll check it out
My dad always said: "if someone put it together, I can take it apart"
This man is that saying on steroids XD
I love technology like this. Fascinating the amount of science and tech that goes into creating a mechanical device. That said if that was a key you had on your keyring, it looks like those two "hooks" might snag on everything... clothing, etc.
“Bigger isn’t always better” .. spoken like a true gentleman
Or spoken by someone who works for Men In Black... Or by women for that matter, as I'm sure at least a few feel that way...
So....you would recommend this one to lock up my lunchbox (I make the best chicken and salad sandwiches)?
Preston Henson Oh, is that just an Australian delicacy? Salad is iceberg lettuce, slice of tomato, some onion, some grated carrot, some avocado, a couple of slices of sweet beetroot and some mayonnaise! Of course it can contain anything you prefer!
Wait they don’t have those in the outer world?
Preston Henson aussie thing. it’s exactly what it sounds like: a salad on bread
@@stephenwoods2900 intresting here in America we iust have chicken salad and tuna salad
no to strong to steal by pick. will drill your lunchbox and steal the sandwich. I want it. I will get it.
As far as the key goes even if it is strong and won’t break I would honestly worry about it getting fought on something. I wouldn’t mind seeing like a rubber cap or something for the key
Always Bolt the Bird want break huh? Hold my beer
Should have a rubber cap come with it with all the money it costs
The design makes it get caught on stuff such as rubber bands, another Keychain if you have multiple, hair ties if your female and use them, etc. Rubber cap would be great
Its an intersting design, but fuck having that thing in yer pocket
Bowley: made an actual unpickable lock
Stuff Made Here: write that down, write that down!
well.. its just to unusual to have the stuff to pick it.. if its going to be ususal, there will be tools to pick it ^^
Thing is, this wouldn't be an original concept and he wanted to try and approach the project with no prior knowledge of locks. It's what made his original locks actually very impressive and difficult to pick (lpl didn't actually pick any of them he just exploited other weaknesses which are more easily removed)
@@terrorhuhn9192 Yeah, you could build a very specialized tool that could open this easy. I have some ideas about the design. But such a tool would never be proliferated beyond a handful of ethical enthusiasts with a high degree of manufacturing capability who would never try to pick a lock they didn't own themselves. It would never have a commercial market, so they'd have to be custom made by said enthusiasts, and even if the plans were made available publicly, no criminal would spend the time and money to custom build their own for a lock they're probably never going to see in the real world anyway. The threat model becomes a state actor with an unlimited budget and they're probably not targeting you unless you're doing something very illegal or very unusual. And that that point, what is the chances for a sneak-and-peek over more kinetic alternatives by some tier 1 types at 3 AM ending with you in a head bag or body bag? If they wanted to do a sneak-and-peek, I'm sure they could always just destroy the lock, replace it with an identical one, and you wouldn't know the difference anyway. Heck, they could replace your whole door. They'd get things down even to the scuff marks and paint chips. Is there a weaker part in your security, such inadequate intrusion detection? A lock this good is only good for forcing a destructive entry so you can file a police report and insurance claims. Or, for simple enjoyment by lock nerds who like knowing they have one of the most secure locks on the market. I would say the latter is the majority of Bowley's current customer base.
Stuff made a similar concept where the pins weren't accessible to picking, although he used a different method to achieve that. It was actually quite a good design. He didn't know enough about bypass methods to guard for them though so that's how lpl got through it. With some tweaks it would be a good lock.
Imagine getting your headphone cable in your pocket all tangled up in that key.
That would be utterly horrible. I'd end up cutting the headphones off and getting new ones! Lol. 😅😂
@@Chetanarora2308 what? i cant hear you, i have my airpods in.
also not sure if you're joking about it or not, but wireless in-ear headphones have been a thing for a while and apples suck just as much as the rest
That is why the keyring goes into ur left pocket and ur phone WITH the headphones I to the right pocket of ur pants. This way it can be easily avoided and wouldnt even have to shed 2 brain cells to come up with that idea.
Chetan Kumar apple created a problem and gave it an expensive solution
@@MoundN it's a joke. Don't get triggered.
That brass version is a real Beauty! Great video and Thanks for the shout out! =)
Glad he did. Subscribed!
I stumbled upon this channel today and I just can't stop. Congratulaitons
I started lock picking recently thanks to this channel. And I have found a lot of joy in this hobby. That being said, I've never had a nerd gasm like I have after seeing this lock.
Dude your voice is top-tier ASMR material. I love just listening to your commentary, I sometimes put you on autoplay for background noise while I'm working on my projects. Keep it up!
Add two more tines and this will start looking much closer to the key from Fifth Element.
He's actually had some old European locks that looked very similar to that one.
Lockpickers: I have no remorse, and nothing bothers me at night.
Bowley lock: *are you sure*?
“A very nice product.” Some of the few lines LPL will say... means like Medal of Honor for locks.
RAMSET?
No, no no!!!
Don't touch her holiness
with that violent rod.
I see you're Ramset and raise you a Cut Devil.
Challenges must be presented in haiku format
I see your silly tools, and raise you with , Gallium
@@fracturedhearts3734 Broko Rod etc. ALL of these have SPECIAL penalties for use.
Any of you all know what a Cut Devil is? Its a splitting maul but for railroad track.
I think it would be a good option to have the lock without any company or other identifiers on it. Reason being, might prevent someone from looking up videos on how to pick or otherwise circumvent the lock.
Matte black Bowley STEALTH variant
About the only way anybody is going to be circumventing this lock is with a quarter stick of dynamite.
Haha no one will pick this lock man.
zwz • zdenek Honestly I think it'd be interesting to see if a theif tries and fails and possibly gets caught instead of moving to easier targets to steal from.
I don't think any thief, even unaware of what lock he's facing, would spend more than a minute on this before figuring out that he doesn't stand a chance.
After so many videos, finally one that is hard enough to even attempt to pick!!
Never thought i'd find these videos so enjoyedable but damn the random lock facts and the excitement watching you pick it hoping you fail but knowing you're going to open it everytime is a thrill.
This has to be the most pick proof lock that LPL has ever reviewed
...so it would seem...
+10 points for getting the reference.
@@scottwpilgrim I don't get it
@@wfluxyy It's from pirates of the caribbean.
This is definitely one to get! TY! For giving this lock company some exposure !
Person: I need a good lock to lock up my money
*buys a lock with all the money he was wanting to lock up*
Person: ok den
I've seen this somewhere before...
Technically that’s what investing is. Put your money into something that’s worth money.
@@ARSZLB what if I use a $225 dollar lock to protect my spare $225 lock what then master of answers
Ah, yes, the Gift of the Magi parable.
Leaving a like and a comment for the recounted back-and-forth concerning the shackle. That sort of insight is exactly why we come here
Damn this lock is crazy, closest thing I've seen to unpickable that I can think of. I think making a pick to work on this would take some serious time and skill
Lock porn, what a great design. This may have to be my first high dollar lock purchase.
The deadbolt was mine.
It’s the first time for me that a lock impress me that much, there’s so many features and complex security thing to discourage thieft
Such a beautifully designed piece of work and without a keen eye the likelihood of someone breaking into it is just so minimal that you would not even have to worry.
Given that they are Canadian I find it obligatory to quote AvE that it's "skookum as frig"
Costs quite a few doll hairs though.
Wtf is happening here?!
@@MrPeelcam IDK.. I assume some Canadian cult tradition.
@@bloodlove93 I'm from Canada and im glad I'm not part of this cult. I'm sorry.
@@MrPeelcam hmm... Should a trust a Canadian that they aren't part of a Canadian cult?... IDK... Seems suspicious.
Haha I'm just kidding, I have no clue what's going on, I'm just joking around because I'm bored.
Side note, go chug some syrup and say sorry to someone for absolutely no reason, this is what comedy media tells me you people do LMAO prove you're a normal Canadian and not a cult follower, cults never apologize. And they are far to bitter to enjoy sweet things like syrup, or so I'd like to assume.
i have a new interest these day after seeing a few videos from this channel. lockpicking 😂😂😂
Five quarters of an inch thick..... I can't say I've ever heard of something that is 1.25 inches thick being referred to as 5 quarters of an inch thick. I kind of like it though.
also you never say or write "five quarters", unless you're talking about music, you say "one and a quarter"
Maybe you don’t, but in cabinetmaking it’s faster to just use and say five fourths. Easier as well, if you use it for long enough
You've never been around any American tradesmen have you? We say shit like that constantly
@@kerrybarneyiii1202 i mean where i live we just use millimetres for everything.
@cecil236 you like wood dont u
I say this in the best way possible. Your videos are amazing for helping me go to bed, perfect background noise.
Beautiful design I love the simplicity of it. Vey nice lock
12 minutes?? wow this is gonna be good
My guy... I don’t know if you’re a ethical picker, lock making engineer, or just a man who likes to break into things but you got me thinking about locks. I now appreciate my kryptonite lock I bought for my carbon bike and suddenly have an urge to start collecting these mechanical marvels.. good for you!!
No idea how I got here or why I'm watching these, but carry on.
Bowley lock keys makes a good keyblade design
I have serial #001 of this lock. It"s an impressive size and weight with decent fit and finish.The pawl retaining pins are not flush ground on mine. I would certainly buy the steel version for higher security use although it's a beast and dwarves the Abloy 656.
Correction: I just checked and it is actually marked '1 of 235' so it may not be the first of the collectors edition as I haven't checked to see if they are sequentially numbered.
I feel like if I bought this lock I'd have to buy a safe to put the lock in to protect the lock
A safe with a quadruple (cross-shaped) Bowley lock.
the lock is only like 150$ about. Its expensive but its not crazy expensive for a high security lock. You use this for applications where the thing youre protecting is worth far more than 150$, maybe something like a storage unit or shed, where the tools and materials you have inside are far more valuable.
@@eragon78 i feel like sarcasm is lost on you 😕
@@jeffperron3915 its not, its just the internet, you can never tell when people are being sarcastic or not without things like voice infliction or facial reactions.
Youd be surprised at the number of people on here who actually think dumb things that youd expect were sarcastic.
@@eragon78 Yeah right, a shed, where you can cut your way in with a pair of tin snips...lol
"My name is Tessa. I am seven years old, and I watch your videos and they are so good. You're so good at doing locks." - my daughter and your biggest fan.
LPL : "It weighs 3 pounds"
Macbook users : *spitting their coffee*
Is there anything to stop the idler ring from rotating when the key isn't inserted, such as due to vibration?
Yes, there’s a groove in the idler, and the pins act as a detent. It happens to be in the wrong place on this lock because of revisions to the prototype, but it will be corrected in the production lock.
@@lockpickinglawyer If someone was to come and spin the idler with a shim, it would make the lock unusable with the key correct? Seams like an easy way to prevent someone from taking what ever they have locked up until the attacker can come back with power tools.
@@ionstorm66 he said the pins act as a detent (meaning you would have to use enough force to shear the pins with the idler, at which point you've already won)
@@sparkzbarca you have to turn the idler before the key hits the pins
@@ionstorm66 that's a bad strategy to employ. If you can't retrieve your item you typically call someone to break the lock and stand by it during that time. Also these are typically for stationary objects (storage units) which are easier to get you or authorities to guard
This is close to the 5th element's key. I love it! It's a beauty!
So this is just a musing curiosity because I totally agree with LPL and his mission of holding lock makers accountable for trash locks and informing people about locks to avoid. But does anyone else ever think, 'If I was a thief, LPL would be my hero.' ?? Hahaha love the work you do, boss!
Very nice looking lock, and some amazing engineering. If I had anything valuable, I might want one of those. Being fairly poor, I just buy locks to pick, not to lock up my nonexistent valuables. I wouldn't try picking one of those, even if I could afford one. It would just sit on a shelf looking pretty. Thank you for showing this lock dissected.
Just get good at heisting armored trucks and you won't be poor anymore.
(Joking, don't actually do that.)
"Five quarters of an inch"
And that children, is the reason why the rest of the world uses the metric system...
Or because it's extremely common to use improper fractions in engineering when you're describing something that isn't a whole number?
@@x6568tank or because you could just use millimeters and centimeters? You don't need any fractions then
@@x6568tank dude,do you realize that you can't go any more precise than a metric system?
hey idiot youre an idiot
fails because 5/4” is 32 mm, which is a whole number
Even US use Meteic to define their weighing and length system
Been watching these videos for a while. Just realizing I don’t have anything to lock
By the way, I love your orderly way of presentation. It’s royal, really
What a great video, a joy to watch and listen to. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Tony
West Wales Locksmiths
It's the first video were I see you being the lawyer and defending the lock instead of being the judge and sentencing it to the trash can.
Hey everybody, I use a 4’ 5/8” grade 80 log chain and this lock for my bike I bought at a garage sale for $20.
you jest but some e-bikes cost upwards of $3,000. One of my relatives is a bike courier/messenger in Chicago. He needs a good bike since his livelihood is effectively dependent on it an you can bet your ass he doesn't use some shitty masterlock or a chinesium chain on his bike.
@Dustin Brueggemann id be carrying that bike up and down stairs every day for that kind of money lol.
@Zeb McCollum Are you sure? When you wrote this the lock had been out for about 3 months. Assuming that you've had this lock for about a month, why on earth would someone sell their $200+, 2 month old lock for $20?
@@remdogkap Dude he's shitposting about people using expensive heavy duty chains but dirt cheap locks and vice/versa.
@@remdogkap hes saying the bike is 20 dollars.
I never knew I gave a shit about locks until I came across this channel. I can’t get enough.
"the lock nerd in me wants to see it thicker "
sebus 212 pl That’s what Mrs. LPL said!
Bowley. My favourite brand.
Please let us know when you've finished making the tooling for picking it.
The downside of a lock like that is if it's used on a storage locker or a door with a hasp . It screams I cost a small fortune and I am probably guarding something amazing . So forget picking just blast through some other way like cutting the door or wall or driving a truck through the door or wall , acetylene torch etc etc.
Great design , if I ever got one I would dummy it up to look average as to not draw attention .
Its much easier than that. Lots of storage units are ticky tack construction and if you have a lock that too tough on one, you simply cut the lock on the one next to it that likely isnt then use a oscillating cutter to cut a hole in the wall and then loot it.
Not hard. Also not fast so what you would want to do is, contrive a way to rent the unit next to the unit you want to rob then using your legit access, use a drill to start the cut in the wall with an open ended hacksaw, leaving like an inch uncut at the tops and side in the corners and then 'break in' illegitimate later and cut your own lock, finish opening the wall and loot. 'Steal' some of your own stuff as well so as to not look suspicious.
Of course this is a very complicated and pretty much heist movie type plan. Not likely to be successful. Besides what would you do if you got into the other room and the item in it was too large to come out through the hole in the wall?
I mean if you had a battery powered oscillating tool, and some extra batteries, you might be able to open a hole in a wall pretty quick especially if you have a team. You might be able to take out an entire panel between studs. But its still a pretty complicated thing. You are gonna be in a hurry, likely to leave your tools there unless you rehearse a lot or wear a tool belt or back pack.
@@metamorphicorder
Well that has certainly happened . Someone got in a unit we bought at auction the night after . We were separating the good stuff and after an hour I looked around and asked my buddy where is the Dyson vacuum . It was 300 easy at the flea market but it was bigger than most of the smaller stuff and some of that stuff was somewhat valuable .
I saw that the loser just crawled out from the side unit through the metal chicken wire that was only twisted down with bailing wire . He was probably ripping off every unit in that entire floor .
We told the manager about it and they didn't really seem disturbed by it . They were like ah oh well we can make a note of it and that's about it . I just bid and clean them out then sell what's sellible .
@@hardworkingamerican8847 wow. That sucks.
@@metamorphicorder This technique was once used to rob a jewelry, I think..
Throw a masterlock label on that sucker
Oh, I finally understood what he meant by "You will dump a lot of pins" in regards to disassembling it while it's unlocked. The actuator goes in a hole that is just big enough for the ball bearings to fit through, so when the lock is unlocked, the ball bearings are stuck to the magnet of the actuatory and if you try to pull out the locking mechanism, the lock will gut itself because you're effectively pull the bible off the core, which is being held inside the lock body by the bearings. If the lock is locked, the bearings are out of the way and stay inside the lock nody while you pull out the mechanism