Using spacers to lay out drawer slides
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Spacing drawers consistently so that the gaps between look consistent is hard. It's easier to make precise spacers than to measure and place screws precisely. This time I just glued the spacers in place to help support the slides.
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I have always been a "work smarter not harder" kind of guy in my own trade and I have to say that watching all of your videos over the years has allowed me to sharpen this methodology in my application of jigs and timesaving special tools. I would love to see you come across a Shopsmith tool and see what you would do with it. I have made countless cool jigs and tools for mine over the years. Thanks for all the inspiration.
I would use the shop smith as a drill press and get proper tools for everything else.
You just solved my drawer slide research issue. I have looked for some time for a method to install drawer slides via measurement as opposed to other methods. While they have worked well in the past, they do present challenges. I just completed two dressers and used your method of installing drawer slides. It is a beautiful thing when a plan comes together and the drawers all work perfectly. Thanks so much for your post.
Just right in time for my project. i missed this kind of videos from some long time youtubers. some have now their perfect big shops with every tool and machinery perfect. with videos with projects for clients and they are far away from their viewers. so please keep on doing videos for the average small shopworker or beginner with limited tools and knowlege. And its is never boring to see you fitting drawers the 100s time because you are genius. regards from cologne/germany
Finally!!!! a video that is typical of what we expect from Matthias Wandel. Keep up the great work. Love to see more videos like this and the old ones. Your skills are exceptional Matthias.
As a german cabinetmaker and wood engineer myself who is also named Matthias, i gotta say i love your videos. You are one of my favorite youtubers with such great style fo videos.
Twins!
Yay! Mattias is back in the shop!
Making drawer slides entertaining with Matthias! Man, we are all missing that, come back once you are finished with all your stuff!
Lovely seeing you working your magic again Matthias! Don't know why but even though I'm one of those pedantic machinists, I prefer watching you work with wood than watching the UA-cam machinists make chips. It's... relaxing!
Your candor is always refreshing.
Dropped and broke a pin - - - :-)
"All the planning in the world can't replace dumb luck.".
Innovation just one trip away.
Hey great work!Listen we miss you UA-cam projects you have to come back with some more projects..I’m in New York and I love watching you videos while I do projects...
I recall may old videos where Matthias explained exactly the same thing: how to install slides, how to space them regularly, etc. Same old content but in a new video.
I would load your drawers before committing to cutting half the pins. With load in the drawers it may take both mechanisms on both sides to get it to pull that last bit closed. Plus it's way easier to cut the tabs [later] than to structurally reattach them.
Thank you so much for posting this. The logical layout helped me visualize this so much.
One thing about adding the spacers especially if they were a little thicker is as the drawers and Hardware age and weight is added too them it will keep the slides from sagging down .
I just added some to my kitchen base cabinet slide outs.
And as luck would have it I am building more storage in my home at the moment. All tips & tricks relating to shelves, doors and drawers are potentially very helpful. Thanks for putting this up.
Great to hear from you again, Matthias!
I miss your workshop projects, I hope this is a sign you're getting back to them.
I am gonna break them down to make them work correctly 😂 god damn, i have really missed your Engineering style. Greetings from Germany Matthias ! And best wishes to your Family
Matthias is back at making videos !! And this way of installing drawer slides and front is pretty nice, I think I'll used it for my future workbenches !
You make John Heinz look like a rookie when it comes to mounting drawer slides, just Kidding John. 🤣🛫 I am glad to see you back.
I hope the Family is doing well.
About a dozen light bulbs went off over head! Great explanation on drawer slides and timely, I've got 5 of slides waiting in the kitchen (don't ask)!
4:34 Breaking stuff to make it better. Love it!
I guess I could say that is a very simple method, both the spacers and the spacing determinations, but
I would also have to acknowledge that I didn't think it up. Thank you for the advice.
why would I "acknowledge" something that isn't true?
My apology if my message was not clear. I meant to compliment you on thinking up and explaining that methodology, in terms that even I could understand (although I myself would not have come up with such a straightforward way of doing the calculations) and will put ti use. I have a great deal of respect for your knowledge and skills.
I’ve been doing this all week... 1.5” face frame rails and stiles, inset drawer slabs and inset door slabs. The spacers really make it easy.
Thanks for some practical, valuable methods of mounting drawers and drawer fronts. I’ll use them on my next project.
4:46 I really thought you were gonna place a workbench in that sleeping room xD
For meditation, musing and speed naps - the idea workshop.
I really enjoy your videos, Matthias -- they're very educational (and entertaining at times), and I learn a lot from how you think through projects and problems. I do have a question: Can these drawer slides, which I typically mount on the sides of the drawer boxes, also work as under-mount drawer slides? Thanks.
Cool idea using spacers to mount the drawers slides. I am going to use your idea on my next project.
Thanks for sharing
Always appreciate these practical videos. I can never seem to get drawer slides spaced correctly. Thanks.
This channel gives me the tools to solve all my problems and I don't even touch wood
Hello from Victoria Australia,thank you,for your very great and clear instructions, easy to follow, you are very intelligent,so could you design a clamp that works easy to make and cost little without any screwing involved.
I didn't understand what you meant when you were commenting about using thicker spacers to support the slides, the part about moving the slides in to accomodate the drawer width. Are you considering shims beneath the slides to accomplish that? Thanks!
So Matthais! Excellent video.
Impressed by your fountain pen!!
I am never quite sure what size to make the drawers with the frame to allow for the thickness of the drawer slides and whether this size is the same for all drawer slides
Good to see a video man! Thanks for uploading one, I enjoy your style.
I think that's a Lamy at the beginning. Super smooth nibs.
my friend. very nice. thank you so much. be happy. bravo
Good morning Mr. Matthias I was wondering if you could tell me how far you placed the slides on the drawers? I noticed you used a jig and I would like to make one too so I can spaces the slides on the drawers equally. Thank you.
Nice workbench! I would worry if the selfclose mechanism ist strong enough to deal with weight in the drawers if you break that pin. Greetings from Germany.
I'm surprised that the soft close slides were cheaper. If it was the other way around but you still wanted soft close, maybe combine one soft close and one normal to achieve soft close at a lower total cost? Either way, I really like the idea of capturing the slides with wood blocks to limit alignment errors during assembly and add strength.
do you have a video on how you constructed the bench frame?
Der Füller sieht aus wie der aus der Schule! Cool, dass der wenigstens von einem Kanadier genutzt wird! When I built my drawers they did not fit well at all, next time doing some prep work will hopefully give me better results!
Matthias is originally from Germany and moved to Canada when he was in his teens. I think that's why he uses the German style fountain pen :)
Hey Matthias, can you reenable accessibility auto-generated captions or upload captions for this one? Looks like a good video.
Thank you so much for captions Matthias! Love how your mind works and that you share your thinking with us.
Matthias, They look great. Nice work.Thanks for sharing.
That's is good idea!
Heeeeeeeey Matthias is back 🤗🤗🤗
How did you come with box hight 8.53cm??? Wouldn't 8.5 do it????
Based on lumber width plus plywood. I didn't target any specific number.
@@matthiaswandel LOL. Thanks. You could just simply stay with imperial numbers.
@@marcelo403polo2 Yeah, because "3 inches and 23/64" is so much easier than "8.53 cm".
@@daanwilmer Dude. there is no woodworkers getting into such precise numbers. 3 3/8" would do it
Good to see you
Matthias
Good job nicely done thanks for sharing God bless bye for now Ken
I may be overthinking this, but 1 pin may not have enough force to close a full or heavy drawer.
if it's that heavily loaded, I could just close it by hand.
i used to have that exact same pen but pelikan doesn't make them anymore and i lost it many years ago, sadly; i have a lamy now, but the nonstandard cartridges bug me
Welcome home :)
Love this video! ^5
I see Matthias becoming a "Hand Tool Worker" soon! LOL.
If you put a little bit of wood glue into the pilotholes the screws will not come lose which they sometimes do.
Hallo how thit you make your draws wich technic
with dowels with screws or something else thank you
Nicely done!
Thanks for the video.
Hey Matthias, do you pay a lot for wood? Where do you get it?
In early morning non-sleeping mode here, I initially though that the thumbnail was you inside the cabinet with your legs sticking out! Yep, it’s gonna be one of those days...
super nice 👍
Great work👍
I'm pretty sure this isn't the real Mathias. The drawers weren't box jointed, the center divider wasn't mortise and tenon.
What's going on here? I hope Mathias is ok wherever he is.
thanks for sharing👍
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Is that a Lamy?
You know, I sometimes still think about that naughty nail from years ago. The one you tried to hammer in, but appeared to be hammered out.
HAHAHAHA yes I remember this, very very funny moment ;-)
No recovered wood?
Here, I just went through my excessive pile of recovered wood and missing what I need went buying new one. I think I should recycle half of of it this winter.
Test them löaded befor you break off the plastic stopper on one side. when the drawers are much heavier, it might be just right as it is.
Nice job!
When attaching the slide to the side of the cabinet you will notice the slide has a "U" shape tab on the front, back and middle of the slide. Its important to use the screw hole at the very end of the non-fixed side of the tab. This allows more movement between the cabinet side and the drawer, resulting in a much smoother drawer action. BTW... the self-closing side mount slides SUCK! They have been pulled from manufacturing numerous times, that little tab Matthias mentioned always fails to engage, that little tab is the only thing pulling the drawer back in. If you can afford it use the bottom mount style slides, even the knock off designs are fairly good and a much better action.
Bottom mount slides aren't as strong and also require the bottom to be a fair bit up in the drawer, which reduces the space IN the drawer too much.
Blum Tandem under mount drawer glides are rated at 125# and require 1/2" of clearance under drawer bottom. However you gain space on sides since the drawer can extend out to the frame.
Yes you do lose space but I do this for a living and stopped using the side mount, especially the soft close. Not only will that little tab fail but you add too much weight and it adds to the problem. Not to mention that the ball bearings and grease are exposed and build up with gunk whereas the bottom mount are covered and the closing mechanism has yet to fail on any I've installed. I personally feel the bottom mount are far superior but obviously people are free to do as they choose. One other thing... you don't have to lose that much space over side mount because you can use a 1/4" bottom as the slide is designed to support the bottom of the drawer so as long as the drawer isn't too big a 1/4" bottom works fine.
Self close normally works a little better when there is some weight in the drawer
I wish my drawers and slides went on that easily.
thanks for sharing that, well done and good for you
They're soft close, not self close. If they closed themselves you would'nt have to push them! Soft close means they don't "slam" shut.
Tell the vendor that.
@@matthiaswandel
Wouldn't self close need to be held open ? If not it is soft close .
Pelikan pen ?
test the drawer slides with weight before ripping half the pins off.. might overload the one side and start breaking them once weight is added... and if someone a little more heavy handed closes them
I can always break the other pin too to make them regular drawer slides.
The perfect mix of manly man and nerd
Love when you uses milimeters....
Nice!
Can i help you on make a taple
brilliant ...
Would’ve liked to see you building it from the beginning
Nice one. Thank you for a idea. :)
muito bom valeu
2:00 Just use a self-centering drill. Much easier.
I see a lot of you wood guys use sleds to cut short parts that could be done a lot easier on a miter saw. I don't get the reason for that. I use pilot holes for almost everything I screw together. People don't realize how strong grain is in wood...it can easily make a screw move off course.
I see people using miter saws for stuff that is much easier on a miter saw. I don’t get it either.
Your end product looked OK but am confused why you choose to take so long and choose to do things to an unnecessary hard way with no extra benefit.
Says someone who has never done it
@@matthiaswandel yes, only for 30 years plus.
Am speaking from experience otherwise I wouldn't know any better.
I hate those slides. Built a vanity this summer using the Home Depot self closing kind. They suck. They need to be cleaned with WD40 as they are covered in a sticky goo when new. And they are inconsistent. Some are looser than others.
You ran oot? You ran oot? How could you run oot?
Instead of subtracting the height of the slide, you could just mark the top of the slide instead... less calculating.
then I still need to subtract to the bottom of the next slide.
@@matthiaswandel you just mark the tops, run a speedsquare along and mount the slides
Then I don’t get the advantage of using spacers. I advise actually watching the video!
This wood seems too consistent and good to be garbage wood. I guess the children are still too small to go on dumpster searches with Matthias.
Why did this not show up in my sub box :(
Matthias WTH using centimeters its a First lol great build btw
what are you talking about? here in canada we are very well versed in all of the measurement methods.
@@bmxscape normally see over the pond using feet n inches is what i ment lol
@@hugobose2254you're thinking about the country with the flag on the moon. canada is different
@@bmxscape True Very True
Oh hey
I love doing math when doing woodworking, even if it's simpler imperial fractions here usually.
"simpler"
@@N4w4k Hah, well... simpler than decimals when you're accustomed to them since all imperial scales have a smaller number of divisions.
That being said I also enjoy machining and working at that resolution too.
@@alecjahn Yes it's all a matter of habits. I personnally think dealing with fractions is harder than doing decimal maths... Fractions are mostly a "school exercise" around here, whereas decimal maths is used everywhere (adding up prices in the supermarket, etc.)
Oh, for sure! I only mention it in terms of woodworking from the ground-up. Starting with round numbers and then just dealing with halves, quarters, eighths, etc, for the rest of the dimensions. It all works out in the end if there's no finite restrictions such as the ones that Matthias was dealing with in this project (spacing drawer slides precisely).
I love doing "Meth" while woodworking...is what I thought you said at first...Had a chuckle.
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So your Lego Pi storage needs have increased....
Interchangeable drawers? Don't let Jeremy Schmidt find out.
Breaking a pin? A happy little accident.
5.03 cm ! I don't think even you have that precision on your table saw or tape measure.
503 millimetres not exactly working to the nearest nanometer.
سبحان الله وبحمده .. سبحان الله العظيم
Holy early, eh?
Metal drawer slides... ? Maybe I'm slightly disappointed