Pros and Cons of Wireless? Long-Term SRAM AXS Review

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  • Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
  • ​‪@SRAM‬'s electronic Eagle AXS derailleur and RockShox Reverb AXS dropper post are as fancy as can be. Do they work better though? What's rad and what could be improved? Join Vital MTB Product Editor, Brandon Turman, for a deep dive into the world of wireless shifting, dropper posts, and his long-term impressions.
    Eagle AXS Highlights
    - Wireless electronic shifter and derailleur
    - XX1 and X01 versions
    - Removable battery weighs 25g and is hot-swappable from derailleur to Reverb AXS
    - Overload Clutch
    - Trimmed and adjusted electronically
    - “Secret Sprint” paddle for quick shifts
    - Water and dustproof to IP69K international standard (withstands pressure washing & immersion)
    - Weighs 5 to 15g less than mechanical Eagle
    - MSRP: $700 USD derailleur, $200 controller
    Reverb AXS Highlights
    - Wireless electronic dropper post and controller
    - Post stays activated/open while holding the controller paddle
    - System goes to power save mode when the bike is stationary
    - Check battery life by pressing AXS button
    - Single rail-retention bolt for quick saddle install and quick tilt adjust
    - Updated internals for faster (non-adjustable) return speed
    - Vent Valve Technology to reset post
    - Waterproof to the IPX7 international standard (systems that require regular pressurized cleaning)
    - Diameters: 30.9mm, 31.6mm, 34.9mm
    - Travel: 100mm, 125mm, 150mm, 170mm
    - Length: 340mm, 390mm, 440mm, 480mm (same as regular Reverb)
    - Weighs within a few grams of traditional Reverb
    - MSRP: $800 USD, includes controller
    There is no denying that these are luxury components and completely unnecessary to have fun on your bike, but man are they cool.
    Overall, SRAM AXS works well as a system, combining wireless technology that is both reliable and nearly instantaneous to make things easier, faster, and a more natural extension of your body in many ways. You barely tap the controllers and the result is a more accurate shift or dropper adjustment. There are also fewer cables, which is sweet, and the potential for trickle-down is exciting.
    For those who love data and devices, AXS is a dream thanks to AXS Web and various integration abilities. For those who don't, it's possible to use the system without thinking twice about it. While there are many conveniences when it comes to AXS, there are tradeoffs when it comes to dealing with batteries and apps.
    After this test, the full AXS setup is going onto a new trail bike. I find that rides on the Transition Patrol are most often straight up, straight down, and after a year of riding it, I think the precision the AXS system offers - whether it's shifting under load or finding that perfect seat height - is much more fitting for a trail or cross-country bike where you see a lot of rolling terrain.
    As for the Reverb AXS, is this the dropper perfected? It definitely seems like it.
    Be sure to head over to www.sram.com for more details.
    Video by Brandon Turman and John Reynolds
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  • @vitalmtb
    @vitalmtb  4 роки тому +36

    Did you see our $2,000 MTB Shootout? ua-cam.com/video/DSYwTlth1oc/v-deo.html
    😂😂 We install SRAM AXS BLINDFOLDED 😂😂 ua-cam.com/video/zVFHE1u96zM/v-deo.html

    • @danytheunicorn95
      @danytheunicorn95 4 роки тому +2

      pretty cool!

    • @headoverbars8750
      @headoverbars8750 4 роки тому +7

      As a software engineer Im stoked big time.
      Live suspension,
      AXS wireless,
      Shits the future and while it is pricey now that will change.
      Great trend, my frame was less but I would absolutely buy it once it comes down even to the 1.5k range but I hope l this tech will settle at just above the 1k price point in a couple of years.

    • @ryanhines6194
      @ryanhines6194 4 роки тому +1

      I've had bad luck with sram derailleurs snapping when I'm riding on my driveway. So I'm not dropping 2k on it

    • @maxMax-ns9pg
      @maxMax-ns9pg 4 роки тому

      @Vital MTB Concerning the clutch on the derailleur....do you think it’ll ever give way, or is it just worn in? I’m worried as I just ordered an upgrade kit and I’m worried that it will drop in clutch quality

    • @bicyclingbum1551
      @bicyclingbum1551 4 роки тому +2

      Would be cool to see a wireless drive train system that recognises the torque or pressure your putting at the pedals then to convert that to a motor on the back wheel, effectively getting rid of the chain , cassette and derailuer or someshit idunno.

  • @diegoarranz2518
    @diegoarranz2518 4 роки тому +961

    What if someone uses a signal jammer in an enduro race 😂

    • @natcrawford5101
      @natcrawford5101 4 роки тому +176

      Or better yet, connect another shifter to someone's drivetrain when nobody's looking.

    • @faruqhossain5314
      @faruqhossain5314 4 роки тому +15

      it really doesn't matter because you can go without a dropper post. and second enduro race teams are very careful with there race bikes

    • @TAZMON20
      @TAZMON20 4 роки тому +17

      Try hacking someone's phone, it's as difficult to hack someone's AXS system.

    • @dasgoofinhiemer5039
      @dasgoofinhiemer5039 4 роки тому +82

      @@TAZMON20 signal jammer, not hacking.

    • @TAZMON20
      @TAZMON20 4 роки тому +22

      @@dasgoofinhiemer5039 The SRAM communication protocol, called Aeria, uses powerful spread spectrum radios to eliminate this possibility of trail side jamming / hacking, the system was given over to cryptographers and hackers and to date the system has never been compromised.

  • @oanatudor1339
    @oanatudor1339 3 роки тому +150

    Wireless brakes.
    Its all fun and games till the battery runs out on a downhill track

    • @yosyp5905
      @yosyp5905 3 роки тому +4

      it's all fun and games untill you have a leak or your cable snaps

    • @Blackevilmisanthrope
      @Blackevilmisanthrope 3 роки тому +1

      If one goes out use the other.

    • @nighthawk0077
      @nighthawk0077 3 роки тому

      Don't exist

    • @datdudeinred
      @datdudeinred 3 роки тому +4

      That's why they didn't develop them. Do you really think they are unable to make brakes wireless too?? 😂 Ofc they must have designed it but waiting for graphene batteries... But then again there should be a failsafe if battery runs out

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 роки тому +1

      @@yosyp5905 Get a fixed gear or just don't bother riding. Then you won't need either, but you'd better install that chain correctly!
      Do you have any idea how strong a steel cable is, or how reliable hydraulic systems are? Motor vehicles used both..... for brakes, for decades.
      But I don't always trust 'everything' made in Asia!!

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga 4 роки тому +59

    It's certainly interesting and all, but one of the nice things about most bikes is that they don't rely on electronics or batteries to work.

    • @kerbodynamicx472
      @kerbodynamicx472 2 роки тому +2

      What if those electric group sets have a little generator on one of the idlers? It probably only takes a fraction of a watt to run them.

    • @leestephenson7042
      @leestephenson7042 Рік тому +3

      Agree, there’s enough gadgets and gizmos to charge as it is, it’s just that extra hassle of finding where you left the cable so you can hook it up, and then finding somewhere vacant to charge it. One of the easiest things about riding a bike is changing the gears as it is, it’s a spot on system that perfectly matches the mechanical, simplicity and cleanliness of getting around totally under your own steam.

  • @vandelkyra
    @vandelkyra 4 роки тому +185

    pro: wireless
    con: battery

    • @lukefarrell117
      @lukefarrell117 4 роки тому +24

      james cuvier con: price

    • @zfine1450
      @zfine1450 4 роки тому +7

      I agree. Something about a bicycle that REQUIRES a battery to ride turns me off. (ok for those of us who can afford multiple bikes, but not for your only bike).

    • @brakesforsnakes757
      @brakesforsnakes757 4 роки тому +2

      I've been using & loving Eagle AXS for just over a year and I keep a backup battery in my pack that I've never had to use on the trail. It's a dream to use and worth every penny.

    • @zfine1450
      @zfine1450 4 роки тому +1

      @@brakesforsnakes757 , never had the pleasure but am told that you'll never go back to cables. I certainly have no issues with modern battery powered devices. Was considering an "apocalyptic" scenario where batteries could not be charged.

    • @stanislavkindiakov6334
      @stanislavkindiakov6334 4 роки тому +1

      Business for a million! Wireless breaks!!

  • @fradd4045
    @fradd4045 4 роки тому +437

    "you can shift whenever because its electronically controlled" ive been shifting whenever on all my bike since before sram was even a company

    • @esvegateban
      @esvegateban 4 роки тому +41

      I had to ride my bike to check if I still could shift whenever using cables.

    • @sasquatchhq5757
      @sasquatchhq5757 4 роки тому +43

      fradd I believe by that he meant under torque when going uphill, but you do you.

    • @esvegateban
      @esvegateban 4 роки тому +7

      @@sasquatchhq5757 your beliefs have little relevance against what he actually said. You'll do you, of course, and keep believing what you want.

    • @blackblaze1996
      @blackblaze1996 4 роки тому +25

      @@esvegateban Im pretty damn sure thats what he meant since it looks like thats what he did. Not to mention it wouldnt make sense to say otherwise.

    • @fradd4045
      @fradd4045 4 роки тому +20

      @@sasquatchhq5757 even if he did shimano (cable)groupsets have been capable of that for more than 20+ years. electronics has nothing to do with the interface of chain and cassette

  • @paddlehard5722
    @paddlehard5722 4 роки тому +90

    “In the EMP war, we won’t be able to ride our cars packed with electronics. We’ll all wind up on the bicycles”
    SRAM: “Well....”

    • @andy-the-gardener
      @andy-the-gardener 4 роки тому

      so your saying the cfm's won't be able to drive cars or fly about the planet on a wim. bring on the emp's

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe you should PEDAL HARDER! Haha! You ONLY 'need' one gear to make the bike go.
      What a concept, PEDAL HARDER, you go faster! Such 'cyclists' probably couldn't ride without cell phones or Strava too. Cry me a River. Haha. My singlespeeds are my apocalypse bikes! They never break! I'm not knocking on wood neither.

    • @raheemgahelable
      @raheemgahelable 3 роки тому +1

      Non of that gonna happen

    • @mrbrochacho2494
      @mrbrochacho2494 2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't make my carbon full sus my apocalypse bike. I'd be going for a single speed or something. Something that is absolutely barebones

    • @ray4493
      @ray4493 2 роки тому +1

      @@rollinrat4850 and die of heart attack on the uphill cause you peddled too "hard" with the last sentence coming out of you would be "ahh so that's why single speed is lame"

  • @roblalinde2459
    @roblalinde2459 3 роки тому +19

    Watching your video pushed me to drop the hammer on the purchase. I've been toying with the idea of AXS and I am most definitely a tech geek, but the price is what held me back. Initially it was because when this stuff first came out, you had to buy the full Groupo but now with the fact that you can buy just the derailleur kit, I was able to pull that trigger and get the AXS dropper as well. Cant wait to get them here in the next couple days. Yes, it's a ridiculous amount of money. But when we already spend thousands to ride a bike, what's another 1600 or so to add something this innovative and cool to a dream bike build? I'm not getting any younger and at 48, I'm having the best time of my life on my bike.
    This is definitely not a necessity, and those who mock it are either jealous or the type to always complain about something. Take my friend Joseph for instance. He rides and has a really decent bike, but they guy laughed at me and told me I'm "wasting my money on stupid, unnecessary upgrades designed to steal your money". Although yes anything like this is stupid money spending. That's my prerogative and its not like I'm mortgaging my house or getting myself into a pit of debt. So yes my friend blasted me for buying in, like a lot of others will. But, This is coming from a guy who has spent over 75K on his home theater/audio equipment. It is all relative.
    I say, if you like it, and want it, and have the means, why not? Life is too short to wonder instead of living it.

    • @lloydlostvegas8785
      @lloydlostvegas8785 6 місяців тому +1

      Very well said it’s mostly confirmation bias on people knocking it and certainly enjoy what you like ! Whether mech or electronic

  • @robeichinger7240
    @robeichinger7240 4 роки тому +4

    Been riding AXS for 2 months and completely agree with everything in this video. Shifting performance is there, but it isn't as intuitive as one would think regardless of button mapping. I still mis shift on occasion. The seatpost on the other hand is absolutely stellar! Took no time to learn how to get that seat in the exact position. Battery performance for me has been awesome. So far I have around 30 hours ride time on the system. The Reverb battery just dropped to 50% and the AXS battery is still showing over 75%.

  • @sml2238
    @sml2238 3 роки тому +5

    this review is pretty spot on. i've had the AXS system for a few months and it's been without issue. The initial setup is a little wonky just the way the app works/connects to devices but it never caused me any issues it was just a bit of weird behavior. Also the battery life for me has been great and I carry 2 spare batteries in my pack and a charger as well as the shifter coin batteries. Once you get the AXS setup it's pretty much set and forget. Also for me I am partially paralyzed in my right thumb so traditional shifters have always been tough for me, with the AXS system I actually use my inex finger to upshift and my gimp thumb to downshift. This allows me to never miss shift and one of the main reasons i bought the system. I wish they would make a left hand shifter so I could swap the shifting to my left hand and dropper to my right but maybe one day.
    Also I went with the X01 derailleur instead of the XX1 I figured the aluminum might holdup a bit better. But I did go for the XX1 cassette and chain which have been holding up really well, especially if you clean and lube your chain after each ride.

  • @Big2Planker
    @Big2Planker 4 роки тому +11

    Have Di2 on road bike and AXS on 2020 YT Jeffsy. Both are awesome and worth every penny. They never miss a shift and I’m never going back to cables. Worth every penny, IMO.

    • @itdjordje
      @itdjordje 3 роки тому +5

      My cable shifters never miss a shift. So you gave your money just to get rid of the cables and look fancy. Not worth it IMO

    • @tonyb9735
      @tonyb9735 2 роки тому

      @@itdjordje I bought a bike which has Di2 on it. IMO it is better than cable shift, but not enough to warrant laying out the extra money for it. If you have the money though, why not?

  • @candidcapture
    @candidcapture 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for putting this video up.

  • @matthewstyer5587
    @matthewstyer5587 4 роки тому +3

    What a fantastic review
    Thanks

  • @tinoschneider6350
    @tinoschneider6350 4 роки тому +18

    I run the XX1 AXS on my XC bike and I couldn't be happier with it. If you reach a certain point of exhaustion the precision and the minimal effort to shift are becoming huge advantages. Therefore I found myself shifting way more with AXS even in extreme situations like shifting several gears under load while riding an uphill corner over roots in complete exhaustion. Just push the button with minimal effort and you will get a perfect shift every single time. Another benefit: It's not necessary to strech the thumb very far to perform shifts in eather direction. So your hand will be wrapped tightly around the bar while shifting.
    On my trail bike I will stick to the (sublime working) mechanical version. There would be too much money hanging down there for going through rough and techy sections :D .

    • @CactusJackSlade
      @CactusJackSlade Рік тому

      Agree! I use ethe thumb on back and finger on the front. Minimal movement and effort and of course the perfect shift every time!

  • @derekim75
    @derekim75 4 роки тому +3

    The best investment for my gx group set... Axs works like a charm~ 6months using, Non complains.......

  • @TPV07
    @TPV07 4 роки тому +14

    Nice toys mate! I am most envious of your tools and I even work at a bike shop. Gonna talk to the boss to invest more money in tools I think :)

  • @motoace2007
    @motoace2007 4 роки тому +1

    Great review!

  • @chriskoutroulis4531
    @chriskoutroulis4531 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice review!

  • @And-rc9yy
    @And-rc9yy 4 роки тому +6

    I will never be able to afford this equipment but wow what a great review. Most people review stuff they barely used. Rare to see such a thorough long term review.

    • @RickyG225
      @RickyG225 4 роки тому +1

      Never say never. You may hit the jackpot one day and be surprised. Good Luck dude!

    • @And-rc9yy
      @And-rc9yy 4 роки тому

      @@RickyG225 I guess I can afford it, but I can't justify it. I've always had the opinion that if you're good enough to need the top kit then someone else should be paying for it, i.e. you ride professionally. Of course my friends would just say it's because I'm a 'tight Wodd' (my surname!)

    • @RickyG225
      @RickyG225 4 роки тому +1

      @@And-rc9yy No prob. I say frugality is not a bad thing. Tight wodd is okay too, coming from the right group. Sure it is great if someone else pays for it, I also am not in that category of a prof-rider. I will wait to see if /when they come down in price to make it cost justified. Cheers!

  • @neillanders8292
    @neillanders8292 4 роки тому +1

    Great review! Now I want one! Actually, I kinda wanted the shimano setup when jeff lenosky showed it off in one of his videos. But that dropper is really cool. THe fact that you can bleed the air out that easily means it won't be a mess after just one season of riding.

    • @brakesforsnakes757
      @brakesforsnakes757 4 роки тому

      I had XT/XTR Di2 for a while and I can tell you that Eagle AXS absolutely kills it!

  • @dereklchung
    @dereklchung 4 роки тому

    Great review. Thanks

  • @ykcinasak
    @ykcinasak 4 роки тому +45

    waterproof what a surprise :)

    • @thedoggoesskrrrt
      @thedoggoesskrrrt 3 роки тому

      I would biy if it's bad spirit proof or evil proof tho

  • @beppuzzo0808
    @beppuzzo0808 2 роки тому

    Great Review, thanks a lot Man!

  • @harzenduro
    @harzenduro 4 роки тому +1

    I put the AXS shifter and derailleur on my all XTR12 drivetrain. Best of both worlds. I won‘t ever go back to cable shifting.

  • @wilboardman
    @wilboardman 4 роки тому

    Love to try them! Price during the pandemic is making it a no go.

  • @justinburgan
    @justinburgan 4 роки тому +7

    This is a killer review, well done! Definitely a luxury item for a bike but hella cool nonetheless!

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  4 роки тому

      Thanks, Justin!

    • @jonathanoxlade4252
      @jonathanoxlade4252 3 роки тому

      Yet bikes that costs like £12000 don't come with it I am having isues with a wired derailleur may end up getting a eletric since for my bafang I have brake sensors the gear sensor won't be needed for this system

    • @DawidDgk
      @DawidDgk Рік тому

      @@jonathanoxlade4252 crazy to think that bikes for 12k doesn't have axs..

  • @fredboudreaux9663
    @fredboudreaux9663 6 місяців тому

    Great review

  • @saunamchan2908
    @saunamchan2908 4 роки тому +4

    Crazy expensive now, but these new "ride-by-wire" (or "wireless" rather) systems hold a lot of promise. Clean and consistent shifts, and adjustable by smartphone makes things really easy for people. I'm still more of an analog fan though.

  • @kevin6666123
    @kevin6666123 4 роки тому +176

    Seems like an answer to a question that nobody asked.

    • @tomwalsh6774
      @tomwalsh6774 4 роки тому +16

      The SRAM execs asked this question....
      "How can we make a shit ton more money?"

    • @topspot4834
      @topspot4834 3 роки тому +2

      Bingo ... Cool concept, clean look but really creates a problem that shouldn't exist ... battery life. I love cool tech, and this definitely is badass, just not worth the added cost and potential complications.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 роки тому +1

      @@topspot4834 Yes...... as a mechanic I see 1st hand how well most people 'take care' of their junk. Many riders can hardly be bothered to pump up their tires, check their sealant, clean and oil their chain, much less actually maintain the entire freakin' bike! They often blame it on us when the bike doesn't work!
      I usually ride singlespeeds. I own 3. One is a fixed gear cyclocross bike. Simple IS as simple does. Being a mechanic, my patience is exhausted on my customers. I'd MUCH rather ride than wrench!!
      I can't wait to come across riders with dead batteries. I have a smile and a few encouraging words. Like, bummer dude, walking sucks, just pedal harder! Ive always said you go faster simply by pushing the pedals just a little harder each and every time!
      'When' I get an e-bike it will have a solar array in a tow-along trailer!! That could work for AXS too!

    • @chameleonpogono
      @chameleonpogono 3 роки тому

      @@onemanmob6756 Exactly why I want the wireless components. I have RA and it can make it harder to shift sometimes.

    • @christopherwalsh7700
      @christopherwalsh7700 3 роки тому +3

      @@topspot4834 ok boomer

  • @mfa81
    @mfa81 4 роки тому +1

    I love mine and think it's worth every penny! Not cheap but worth the price tag in my opinion! The AXS App is still pretty much a mystery to me. I've never got it to show my 10T cog being used on how many times I activated my dropper post during a ride!

  • @brettw8664
    @brettw8664 4 роки тому +11

    Got the E-Tap on my roadie, so when I upgraded my Pivot 429 Trail, it was an absolute 'must have'. I will never go back to cable on any bike again. Especially on a MTB with the AXS dropper, you can set your saddle position to within pinpoint accuracy. Never miss a gear and just press the lever to change up or down 'all day long'. Never had an issue with my set up EVER.

    • @acruzp
      @acruzp 4 роки тому +1

      Why do you sound like a marketing team?

    • @puntoycoma47
      @puntoycoma47 4 роки тому +1

      I've never missed gears on 1998 Shimano XT

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 4 роки тому +15

    I’m the opposite on the charging: the dropper is about 25 hrs ride time, the derailleur about 50 hrs before recharge but I just got the app so will be able to get a better estimate.

    • @dgw6448
      @dgw6448 4 роки тому +1

      do you have a tesla ? two teslas ?

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 роки тому +2

      Haha, Ive got a qr seat collar and a 'Hite Right'. The original dropper from the '80s. This big spring has never worn out and never needs charging!

  • @richardmorris8764
    @richardmorris8764 3 роки тому

    I HAVE THIS SET ON MY 2021 JUMPSTUMPER EVO AND 2021 SB130 LUNCH RIDE AND IT ROCKS

  • @taylarbikes8845
    @taylarbikes8845 3 роки тому +1

    Glad to see they have held up! I purchased the Sram XX1 AXS group for my XC race rig without ever laying hands on it.. risky but seems to be great thus far. What are your thoughts on wet/muddy weather operation?

  • @hugovvr
    @hugovvr 4 роки тому +118

    All that electric shifiting thing is just the shifters companies trying to keep you away from the real deal : gearboxes !

    • @karljaspers9205
      @karljaspers9205 4 роки тому +17

      hugo vvr. nice! i’ll take it a step further WIRELESS GEARBOX 😲

    • @bananasstuff3344
      @bananasstuff3344 4 роки тому +8

      @@karljaspers9205 that would theoretically reduce lots of issues with gearboxes like grip shifters and being unable to shift underload so I could be the future!

    • @dietznutz1
      @dietznutz1 4 роки тому +8

      They won’t be ready for a good few years range and weight is still a problem not to mention you need a special frame to take one

    • @bananasstuff3344
      @bananasstuff3344 4 роки тому +16

      @@dietznutz1 yes but arguably you need a special frame to mount a derailleur, its just that its an industry standard.

    • @hugovvr
      @hugovvr 4 роки тому +2

      @@bananasstuff3344 Exactly! And I'll rather buy one proper steel frame with gearboxe that are both designed to last at a decade (While an alloy frame last 5years max., if put to abuse. And a derailleur will only last a season if you ride a lot..)

  • @AdventuresInTheSky
    @AdventuresInTheSky 2 роки тому +1

    It’s cool, i still would love to see improvements in belt driven gear boxes to compete with derailleurs.

  • @trdartz
    @trdartz 4 роки тому +3

    I can only see this being beneficial on a road bike to optimize aero with less cables and possibly less weight due to less cabling as well .

  • @leedorney
    @leedorney 4 роки тому

    I've got the original stuff SRAM Red on my road bike and it's just great, Ive had mine for 2yrs now and I still get a thrill out of changing gear 👌 - oh put the derailleur covers on when you're not using the bike and this elongates the battery life between charges 😉 - I'm getting a month out of charges if you're interested.. 😎

  • @blessedantang21
    @blessedantang21 4 роки тому +190

    I can't go to ride i need to charge my shifter😂😂😂

    • @paddlehard5722
      @paddlehard5722 4 роки тому +24

      ICloud9 Music I can’t go to ride, I’m waiting for firmware update.

    • @saturupiah5940
      @saturupiah5940 4 роки тому +5

      I lack the thumb strength to change gears.
      I betta get AXS!

    • @MattePaavi
      @MattePaavi 3 роки тому +1

      its a rich problem XD

    • @Blackevilmisanthrope
      @Blackevilmisanthrope 3 роки тому +1

      Actually hang out for fifteen minutes and I’ll be ready. Will charge enough for a ride in the time it takes for most people to put on their dumb neon plastic clothing.

    • @raheemgahelable
      @raheemgahelable 3 роки тому +1

      Shifter takes a non chargeable battery! 😁

  • @dustyburner
    @dustyburner 4 роки тому +2

    I've only been using the AXS XX1 for a couple weeks, but I really like it. It shifts great and easy to use. Only time will tell how well it holds up.

  • @tylerbacklund9315
    @tylerbacklund9315 4 роки тому +23

    im curious to see where the axs will be in the next 5 years

    • @snoogboonin
      @snoogboonin 4 роки тому +3

      Gearbox.

    • @paddor
      @paddor 4 роки тому

      Wait and you will.

    • @8000RPM.
      @8000RPM. 4 роки тому +1

      No question: In a landfill.

    • @tylerbacklund9315
      @tylerbacklund9315 4 роки тому +4

      8000RPM You really think that in five years there are gonna be mtb trails in landfills?

  • @martin.B777
    @martin.B777 4 роки тому +4

    Great! Will wait until price drops substantially and wireless tech gets affordable!🚵‍♂️💪

    • @martin.B777
      @martin.B777 4 роки тому +1

      @@IIISentorIII Takes time, but it will get cheaper.🤑

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 роки тому +1

      Check out the prices on Sram's replacement parts for stuff that's a few years old. The prices aren't going down!
      A new drivetrain, cassette, chainring and chain for AXS are well over $500 and Sram never lasts long!
      "A fool is soon parted from his money"

  • @NDemanuele1
    @NDemanuele1 4 роки тому +6

    Thanks for the video! I been curious about this.
    I like the idea of wireless, but not so much the astronomical price and batteries.
    I wonder if it will be standard on bikes sometime in the future?

    • @brakesforsnakes757
      @brakesforsnakes757 4 роки тому +1

      It's getting closer to that point, just helped my friend get a 2020 Scott Spark RC Team Issue AXS and the MSRP is $5000.00.

  • @leonardothillet6423
    @leonardothillet6423 4 роки тому +9

    I tested mine yesterday, and this is something no one understands how insanely flawless it is until they tried it...It's like playing a video game...

    • @dieselgeezer18
      @dieselgeezer18 2 роки тому

      i don't understand the attraction if it feels like a videogame. Videogames are boring compared to real life

    • @kbd13-n9c
      @kbd13-n9c 2 роки тому

      One of the guys I ride with has the Di2 rear derailleur on his bike. Pretty cool, shifts well, but it was an eye opening experience for me or anything. Might be different on certain terrain. I tried it on a flat road.

    • @Durwood71
      @Durwood71 Рік тому

      My analog GX shifts pretty darn flawlessly, and it's a fraction of the price of the AXS.

  • @stianjarnass
    @stianjarnass 2 роки тому

    Great review👏. If you don't have to adjust gears, this is even better🤗. Also getting lower gears on a downhill bike would be a easy install👏👏👏

  • @ravimaurya10
    @ravimaurya10 4 роки тому +2

    ​@SRAM MTB @vital MTB Just an idea...why not have small 2 inch solar panel with some toughened glass on it be mounted on each individual part so that it trickle charges the batteries or maintain them...would be neat to see such a thing on this.

  • @neilleach5249
    @neilleach5249 2 роки тому

    Well done. Thank you.

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 4 роки тому +3

    I hate having to deal with cables that stretch and hydraulics that need to be bled. Love wireless. Def gonna do dropper, drivetrain not so sure bc I do damage my derailleur and man that would be an expensive replacement, plus dropper seems to be area of greatest bang for your buck improvement wise as I am still in search of non wireless dropper I really like. Re batter life- it is so long that I don’t have to worry about it running out during a ride, which was my main concern. I charge my phone each night and lights after each night ride, not a big deal to pop out a battery and charge it every once in while after a ride. Now just gonna wait for price to drop and maybe Fox to make a wireless Factory.

  • @alpine_pro5814
    @alpine_pro5814 4 роки тому +3

    Just installed on my SW Stumpy, just riding it around feels nice and smooth.Tomorrow is the true test. Stoked to try it out!

    • @ddialogue
      @ddialogue 3 роки тому

      It's been four months. Give us a ride report! :D

    • @alpine_pro5814
      @alpine_pro5814 3 роки тому

      Dave Dialogue
      I have no complaints, Axis has been spectacular. Shifts smooth under load and tough as nails. Only complaint would be make sure to check battery level. I wound hesitate to buy another Axis derailleur and dropper.

  • @Will762
    @Will762 3 роки тому +6

    "You can sit on it with all your weight and it will still actuate perfectly". I'm confused, is this implying the post will actually lift you up?

  • @myideas8548
    @myideas8548 2 роки тому

    Well done.

  • @bf.258
    @bf.258 3 роки тому

    Can't wait till the dropper post could drop itself!

  • @clubdevoiture1618
    @clubdevoiture1618 4 роки тому +5

    I had 0 interest in these products untill now ...
    Now these are a MUST !! So sick!!

  • @chrisarfath3382
    @chrisarfath3382 3 роки тому

    Bro your bike is sick and so cool may I know which model is it

  • @scstinger5
    @scstinger5 5 місяців тому

    Good video! Seems like the only way forward would be a basic Internal Drivetrain for mountain biking. Everything els is just shining up old technology that was made for road bikes

  • @netposerx
    @netposerx 4 роки тому

    Why is this so much better than my Eagle SX? The cable or the actual derailleur? Or both? Wonder if they took the SX derailleur and converted it to wireless would it be better?

  • @michiganstate149
    @michiganstate149 4 роки тому

    I debated AXS Eagle then tried Shimano 12s and decided to save my money for IMO a better drivetrain experience. In terms of the dropper, a mechanical dropper for $100 (Brand X) that you don't need to do anything besides a 5 min rebuild 2-3 times a year (every 50ish hrs) takes the cake for me. Someday when the price drops and this becomes more mainstream I'll reconsider.

  • @UltimateTuner10
    @UltimateTuner10 4 роки тому

    For longer term users, have you had issues with the clutch like the review said?

  • @M.E.Cyclist
    @M.E.Cyclist 2 роки тому +1

    Have you had any issues with the battery tabs breaking, specifically on the derailleur? I've gone through 3 in less than a year (on a road bike even!).

  • @boyscout6566
    @boyscout6566 3 роки тому

    Eagerly awaiting for the 2021 battery less version powered by the pedals.

  • @LighthawkZ65
    @LighthawkZ65 Рік тому

    I have an X01 AXS and honestly, I don't worry about the fact that is electronic. I'm not a heavy mountain rider, but I always like to have it ready to do so I always pay attention to the indicators I find no inconvenience with it.

  • @Bayplaces
    @Bayplaces 4 роки тому

    I saw that shimano filed a patent for an upper pulley that functions like a dynamo hub.
    I wonder if the battery will ever be replaced by a mini dynamo and smaller battery.

  • @benzzoy
    @benzzoy 4 роки тому

    After riding eTAP for a while, the biggest watchout (not concern) is the relatively short battery life, when compared to Shimano's Di2 and Campagnolo's EPS. Exacerbating that relatively short battery life is the need to remove the battery from the device, so as to plug it into the charger; this is not convenient like Di2 where there's a port on the bike you can plug a charging cable into (like with a smart phone). Exacerbating that inconvenience is you have at least two batteries you need to take care of, which means you need to watch the charger LEDs and switch batteries (or you spend $ on extra chargers).
    Still, wireless (aka no cable except to the brakes) is *nice*. And with AXS and a smart phone, you can kinda gauge when you need to recharge, and it's easy to carry a spare battery all the time since they're so small and light.

  • @oBseSsIoNPC
    @oBseSsIoNPC 4 роки тому +3

    something like that would make a lot more sense on e-bikes, where they can be connected through the frame, I am sure a few thin wires weight less than all the batteries put together.
    Still, kind of weird that there is even such a thing.

  • @budwende8190
    @budwende8190 3 роки тому

    Very Nice! There did you get your handle bar grips?

  • @hervemasson5976
    @hervemasson5976 3 роки тому

    nice trails !!

  • @mikepfeifer1753
    @mikepfeifer1753 4 роки тому

    So, when are you guys dropping the 2020 Sentinel review :)

  • @chipsnpeasifuplz
    @chipsnpeasifuplz 3 роки тому

    Got both om my commencal meta and have to say i love it. However i managed to kill the battery by leaning it on the shifter some how. Fyi the dropper runs out first and i've found gears become glitchey when its on its way out too.

  • @wamote6867
    @wamote6867 4 роки тому +2

    My next eMTB will have the AXS derailleur and Reverb, i don't like cables and they don't like me. ;-)

  • @russellhays370
    @russellhays370 4 роки тому

    nice video, did you mention the price? did i miss that ?

  • @maxfactor4209
    @maxfactor4209 4 роки тому

    Can it be paired with a power meter on your pedal to keep your wattage consistent and creat a CVTish gear

  • @mikexhotmail
    @mikexhotmail 2 роки тому

    thankyou very very much

  • @anglobugayong9103
    @anglobugayong9103 4 роки тому

    So sweet cyborg Sram❤️

  • @Bikelife112
    @Bikelife112 Рік тому

    Gents, is there a similar derailleur for wheels with inhub speeds? I mean, like the Shimano Nexus 7V? I am very interested. Thanks, much appreciated!

  • @AdventuresInTheSky
    @AdventuresInTheSky 2 роки тому

    Seat tilt angle should be able to adjust electronically, and automatically based off uphill vs downhill.

  • @TCJACJ2000
    @TCJACJ2000 3 роки тому

    So if you hold the controller button down will it make multiple shifts.
    My cable X01 3 clicks = up 3 gears

  • @lexvdw
    @lexvdw 4 роки тому +32

    I wonder if they will release a GX or even NX version in the future

    • @GarrettHMTB
      @GarrettHMTB 4 роки тому +6

      Probably not I’m sure the reason the Xo1 mech and XX1 are so expensive is because of the electronics, same if it already costs 600 bucks it doesn’t make sense to make lower models also Bc your getting cutting edge technology with that price, I think this should just stay on the high end stuff it’s a luxury for a reason. I’m sure even an NX AXS shifter would still be at least 550 bucks

    • @raupenimmersatt6906
      @raupenimmersatt6906 4 роки тому +5

      No they wont.
      Said by on of the dudes who developed it

    • @nobrakes7247
      @nobrakes7247 4 роки тому

      To much slop in both those derailleurs for them to work.

    • @chipdouglascia
      @chipdouglascia 4 роки тому +1

      No Brakes you have too much slop😂

    • @nobrakes7247
      @nobrakes7247 4 роки тому

      Nar Brus I fixed mine by hammering the pins tight
      And the main bolt.
      No slop

  • @chassbunnbuildingllc7231
    @chassbunnbuildingllc7231 2 роки тому +1

    Been having shifting issues on my GX AXS! Shifts up and slow shifting down. Checked everything and drove 1.5 hours to Sram tech and still no fix.

  • @kahoycrafts
    @kahoycrafts 4 роки тому

    When are they coming out with the automatic transmission version, then you don't need the bluetooth shifter.

  • @mtbsavant5414
    @mtbsavant5414 4 роки тому +12

    When is the GX level coming? 😀

  • @stevengeuns
    @stevengeuns 4 роки тому

    Best group I ever had on a Nike.

  • @rollinrat4850
    @rollinrat4850 3 роки тому +1

    I think it would be funny for me and a riding partner to both have the AXS dropper and trade our controls. That could be a real 'kick in the pants' kinda fun!!

  • @livefreeandshred9818
    @livefreeandshred9818 4 роки тому

    The battery life on my m8100 is flawless

  • @rinky_dinky
    @rinky_dinky 4 роки тому

    i'd buy the dropper post, although i love my fox transfer dropper, but after a few rides , the cable or something gets sticky and the actuator closes slowly or not at all.
    \

  • @diegosoaressantos2048
    @diegosoaressantos2048 4 роки тому +1

    Shimano está chegando 👊🏻🇧🇷

  • @johnglynn7795
    @johnglynn7795 3 роки тому

    Brandon and John, truly enjoyed your vlog with regard to "bluetooth shifting." I noticed you guys are one of the few who rides in the desert. Should I assume the video was shot in the Phoenix area? Also, I noticed your riding a Transition. Do you like it? I am in the market for an new MTB and was looking at the Ibis Ripley and the Niner Rip 9. Your thoughts on either for desert riding. Jg

    • @vitalmtb
      @vitalmtb  3 роки тому

      hey john, we have a 29er group test w/ the ripley that was done near phoenix - ua-cam.com/video/dwvc53At7f0/v-deo.html - unfortunately we don't have any time on the Rip 9 to really compare it yet.

  • @CanonFirefly
    @CanonFirefly 4 роки тому +1

    They should have a generator in the pulley to keep the battery in the derailleur topped up.

  • @davidwales9657
    @davidwales9657 4 роки тому

    Just sitting here waiting for a GX level upgrade kit. Only need the derailleur and shifter

  • @thibautnoah2599
    @thibautnoah2599 3 роки тому

    So is that normal to have "an occasional pop"?
    I am assuming you are referring to the derailleur not being on the proper cog and jumping to it after a few rounds of pedaling?

  • @GokkunGuru
    @GokkunGuru 2 роки тому

    The up shift on the stock AXS controller has very little clearance with the lock ring of my grips. I wish they didn’t make the paddle so tall.

  • @dwyoo6417
    @dwyoo6417 4 роки тому

    Mantap bro

  • @plinogromagic3412
    @plinogromagic3412 3 роки тому

    Does any one of you know., if the Eagle X01 AXS can be used on a Superenduro/Freerider with much park-use? Or should I better use it only on a Trail Bike/Enduro ? Don´t know if I´d be better with the normal X01.
    Thanks

  • @rjtyler4333
    @rjtyler4333 3 роки тому

    How much are the Electronic Eagle shifter and the rock Shox dropper post?? I want to do upgrades to my FSR Camber Elite 29'er. Any input would be very helpfull

  • @Candesce
    @Candesce 4 роки тому

    I used an axs dropper and shifter at a demo. It's very nice but the buttons are a little weird. Also very good for demo bikes because it's so easy to micro adjust the dropper with single clicks. Just totally different to regular droppers. With that said, the long overall length means I'm not going to be able to fit the dropper.

  • @pe3117
    @pe3117 4 роки тому

    My next two mods 🤘

  • @massimofederici9207
    @massimofederici9207 4 роки тому

    I have issue to sync AXS APP with components....not recognized by the App... Any tip?

  • @mke723
    @mke723 4 роки тому

    It would be really cool if you could operate the post from the shifter so you could have 1 less controler.

  • @luisfj9
    @luisfj9 4 роки тому

    Not a bad idea but what I saw in the video the battery in the rear derailleur and the seat post the battery needs to be addressed, and the rear derailleur also needs to be built to last for what it is going to be worth. If those issues can be addressed then definitely they are onto something in regards to maintenance on these bicycles.

  • @HECTORBIDO
    @HECTORBIDO 3 роки тому

    Hi. Does Sram xx1 eagle support gears in the bike computer

  • @algas15
    @algas15 4 роки тому

    tfw someone backdoors you while you're riding your bike, what a time to be alive