I just ordered that and stumbled on to this. Nice approach and comparison. Two years late to the party but for what it's worth: There was just a hint of grit and pronounced low frequencies with the wireless on the cleans but not a deal breaker for me. Should be even less with single coils and I believe a slight EQ adjustment would even it out. It was worse on the fuzzy stuff. Maybe using lower fuzz/distortion gain and bumping up the volume to compensate loudness would counter the ill side-effects along with again, some subtractive EQ on the problem frequencies. It did a fine job on the bass. I usually roll off the sub low end on my bass amps anyway. A lot of bass amps include that feature. I thought the wireless added a nice ambience to the acoustic and sounded better to my ears than the cable. Bottom line is it does color the sound and that makes it personally subjective. All my four wireless color the sound. Even my Boss WL-20 wireless colors the sound though. I use them all and adjust to taste.
Easy. When you get to a gig, plug the case into a charger, so it can charge between gigs. As far as testing latency, hook up a source with a y cable to both channels of your daw, one through the wireless and one a cable. You’ll be able to see the waveform delay on screen. (Advanced)Then you can shift the waveforms to match in time, invert one and mix them together. This difference waveform will be what the transmitter does to the signal.
I play an active bass and have one. I think I was one of the first customers to buy one ! It is great, BUT needs to be recharged in the case after an hour for the next set. A passive electric guitar will last all night. Killer units !
Interesting - so an active instrument drains the battery quicker. I can't use this with my active bass because the signal is too hot and causes it to distort. I didn't realize that until after I made the video. I wished I would've included that bit. Which model do you have?
Noise being introduced when using overdrive is a problem in other wireless units I've used, too. Waiting for some company to figure out how to deliver something under $100 that doesn't suffer from this issue. Thanks for the video!
Some day! There are cheaper units out there that actually have a built in noise gate to help mask that. I've tried them though and hated it. The noise gate just kills your dynamics and on heavier notes will just miss the transient.
I listened to the samples on my studio monitors. I could not tell a difference in tone on the clean samples (or on the acoustic samples). I perceived a little loss of some highs on the overdriven samples. That said, you can probably compensate for that with EQ. I bet this would not even be noticed on a guitar with single coils. Over all, this unit sounds pretty good, especially for the price!
Please elaborate on the frequencies used by the Brian Fay system vs those used on expensive professional systems. My understanding is that the Brian Fay is NOT in the 2.4 or 5.8 range that most other wireless dongles (and WIFI and BLUETOOTH) use, and so it should be more reliable. You didn't highlight that point which I would have thought was a big plus for this system, so I am wondering if I am mistaken.
Nope. This is meant for passive pickups. Active pickups that output higher will cause it to distort. Can’t remember if I mentioned that in the video but it’s at least listed on the product page.
@@AlexPriceMusician I'm reading the Amazon listing today and the text seems to say it works with active or passive. The side by side comparison at the bottom of the page includes a check mark under most of the models for "Active" guitar and bass as well. And it's the BF-1 Lite page I'm viewing.
@@TallTreesClub Maybe they've made an updated version. My transmitter distorted a bit with high output active pickups. You can always turn the volume down a bit to fix that though.
@@AlexPriceMusician Maybe, good point. BTW, the rechargeable system is $39 on sale today at Amazon so I ordered a set for guitar. I did a double-check because it's the LITE version I stored in my shopping list. But indeed the rechargeable is what's confirmed for my purchase.
Yeah, probably my only reservation. It's pretty vulnerable when sticking out the side of a pedalboard. If I were to commit to using this full time, I'd place a pedal sideways or use one with top loading jacks to plug into so the receiver stays over the pedalboard.
mine arrived today. I loved it. After playing for 10 minutes y pup jumped off the the bed and hit the unit sticking out of the amp perfectly. It's on it's way back to Amazon. Destroyed.
For $15 they have an extension cable that will let you attach it to the guitar strap or lay it flat next to a pedal so it won't get in the way as much
I just ordered that and stumbled on to this. Nice approach and comparison. Two years late to the party but for what it's worth: There was just a hint of grit and pronounced low frequencies with the wireless on the cleans but not a deal breaker for me. Should be even less with single coils and I believe a slight EQ adjustment would even it out. It was worse on the fuzzy stuff. Maybe using lower fuzz/distortion gain and bumping up the volume to compensate loudness would counter the ill side-effects along with again, some subtractive EQ on the problem frequencies. It did a fine job on the bass. I usually roll off the sub low end on my bass amps anyway. A lot of bass amps include that feature. I thought the wireless added a nice ambience to the acoustic and sounded better to my ears than the cable. Bottom line is it does color the sound and that makes it personally subjective. All my four wireless color the sound. Even my Boss WL-20 wireless colors the sound though. I use them all and adjust to taste.
Easy. When you get to a gig, plug the case into a charger, so it can charge between gigs.
As far as testing latency, hook up a source with a y cable to both channels of your daw, one through the wireless and one a cable.
You’ll be able to see the waveform delay on screen.
(Advanced)Then you can shift the waveforms to match in time, invert one and mix them together. This difference waveform will be what the transmitter does to the signal.
That's pretty genius.
I consider a couple of these units today. After watching your review....I think I will pull the trigger. Nice job👍
Oh and by the way...I subbed👍
@@UncleDanBand64 Thanks Dan! I appreciate it
@@AlexPriceMusician my pleasure
I play an active bass and have one. I think I was one of the first customers to buy one ! It is great, BUT needs to be recharged in the case after an hour for the next set. A passive electric guitar will last all night. Killer units !
Interesting - so an active instrument drains the battery quicker. I can't use this with my active bass because the signal is too hot and causes it to distort. I didn't realize that until after I made the video. I wished I would've included that bit. Which model do you have?
Great video. After watching your video i am sold on it and will be placing a order to get it.
Let me know how it works for you Troy!
Noise being introduced when using overdrive is a problem in other wireless units I've used, too. Waiting for some company to figure out how to deliver something under $100 that doesn't suffer from this issue. Thanks for the video!
Some day! There are cheaper units out there that actually have a built in noise gate to help mask that. I've tried them though and hated it. The noise gate just kills your dynamics and on heavier notes will just miss the transient.
I like the concept- I am getting mine replaced as they stopped working in less than 3 months.
They have a new version coming out in the next month with some revisions. Hopefully they’ve fixed whatever issue caused it to stop working.
I listened to the samples on my studio monitors. I could not tell a difference in tone on the clean samples (or on the acoustic samples). I perceived a little loss of some highs on the overdriven samples. That said, you can probably compensate for that with EQ. I bet this would not even be noticed on a guitar with single coils. Over all, this unit sounds pretty good, especially for the price!
Agreed!
I heard the exact same thing. Still, this thing seems great!
Please elaborate on the frequencies used by the Brian Fay system vs those used on expensive professional systems. My understanding is that the Brian Fay is NOT in the 2.4 or 5.8 range that most other wireless dongles (and WIFI and BLUETOOTH) use, and so it should be more reliable. You didn't highlight that point which I would have thought was a big plus for this system, so I am wondering if I am mistaken.
can't get them right now...i want the BF-1B but nothing is available.
How is the response on bass when you’re fast slapping?
I heard a hiss at the beginning of the overdrive section. The hiss was louder with the wireless.
great vid man
Whas it just me or the attack on that distortion was low on the wireless?
Any issues with noise or interference in urban environments?
None. I’ve been using this everywhere the last few months.
Found this video a bit late but will this work with active pickups? Thanks in advance!
Nope. This is meant for passive pickups. Active pickups that output higher will cause it to distort. Can’t remember if I mentioned that in the video but it’s at least listed on the product page.
@@AlexPriceMusician thanks!
@@AlexPriceMusician I'm reading the Amazon listing today and the text seems to say it works with active or passive. The side by side comparison at the bottom of the page includes a check mark under most of the models for "Active" guitar and bass as well. And it's the BF-1 Lite page I'm viewing.
@@TallTreesClub Maybe they've made an updated version. My transmitter distorted a bit with high output active pickups. You can always turn the volume down a bit to fix that though.
@@AlexPriceMusician Maybe, good point. BTW, the rechargeable system is $39 on sale today at Amazon so I ordered a set for guitar. I did a double-check because it's the LITE version I stored in my shopping list. But indeed the rechargeable is what's confirmed for my purchase.
Unfortunate about the shape of it. Pretty sure I'd break it.
Yeah, probably my only reservation. It's pretty vulnerable when sticking out the side of a pedalboard. If I were to commit to using this full time, I'd place a pedal sideways or use one with top loading jacks to plug into so the receiver stays over the pedalboard.
mine arrived today. I loved it. After playing for 10 minutes y pup jumped off the the bed and hit the unit sticking out of the amp perfectly. It's on it's way back to Amazon. Destroyed.