8 Mistakes ADV Riders Make & How to Avoid Them
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8 Mistakes ADV Riders Make & How to Avoid Them
With so many people getting into adventure motorcycling, there is a lot of opportunity for beginner mistakes. I also see a lot of experienced riders making some of these mistakes, too. The sport is evolving, bikes are getting more advanced, we need to adapt how we ride. Also, I don't have all the answers. You might disagree with my list - that's fine, let me know your thoughts in the comments.
What mistakes are you seeing on the trail, or making yourself?
00:00 Intro
01:20 #1 Bike not Prepped
02:46 #2 Too Much Stuff
05:36 #3 Standing too much
08:18 #4 Not using vision
12:07 #5 Not using ABS/Traction Control
22:25 #6 Going too slow
25:55 #7 Airing Down
28:32 #8 Bar Risers
31:01 #9 Bonus - not hydrating
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Another mistake is riding alone without letting someone that knows the route know where and when you'll be riding.
but what if you don't have a route in mind, or know when you'll be riding? I just hop on and take off with a general compass direction and see where I end up.
@@motarded4214 yeah, me too. Many peeps are afraid to go it alone
@@motarded4214 I use a Garmin Montana that has SOS, breadcrumbs, and my wife can pull up my location at any time.
What if you have no mates that are not wanting to ride. Or even have no mates.
@@johnwayne7210 Probably worth paying for an SOS subscription service.
Hi Ian, I know this video was 2 years ago but I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time out to share your tips and tricks with us. I'm always grateful of the time people like you take out of your busy schedule to make videos like these.
Glad it helped
As a new ADV rider, truly appreciate the content.
Vision (you WILL go where you look at!) and momentum (just enough speed to get up - but being slow enough on top of the hill to have all option) are the most overseen skills or factors in off-road driving. A helpful video.
Suspension setup videos would be helpful, got a 2017 Africa twin and trying to figure out the different ways to set it up
Greetings from oregon ive been riding for 50 years ive never needed or wanted any form of electronics im a firm beliver you should know you machine maybe newbys can benifit it adds cost and weight for some reason manufacturs think we need all this compilcated stuff just saying. What ever you ride they are all adventure bikes and have been since motorcycles were invented go out and freaking ride
Great tips. I love what you are doing with the two channels and the new consistency that you are producing. I hope the algorithm gods are kind to you. Great content!!!!
I agree with everything your saying. I struggle with what to bring with me on a trip, and that will vary depending upon how long of a trip and where I go. I have a tendency to bring too much, but I want to be prepared.. One of the most difficult things to do is carrying what you need without bring too much.
Thanks Ian, keep up the great work, we really appreciate it! Safe travels and have fun! Gratefully, Dennis
Agree? Disagree? What are the mistakes you see out there, or have made yourself? What do you want to improve on?
I am fortunate that I've never made a mistake
Excellent information on traction control and ABS in off road riding. Very important and useful for people like myself who don't have much experience on big bikes and who want to ride the trails safely and with confidence. Momentum is critical. Thanks Ian.
The looking up advice is golden! I'm a new 750GS rider (mostly on roads) and I make this mistake so much.
I really can not thank you enough for all the information about riding and safety in your channel .
Keep on we appreciate you
Good video Ian, The explanation of the ABS and TCS was good. Pushing my bike a little bit harder and out of my comfort zone with great results. Just loving my GSA.
Thank you very much. I started riding an ADV motorcycle just this year. And you have answered many of my questions here!
One of your best videos so far. Really enjoy your new format and the tips are right on spot
Great video! I've ridden dirt bikes and cruisers, but bought my first ADV bike last week. Heading to the NC mountains this weekend. As an avid MTB guy, your tips made a lot of sense. Thanks!
All valid info for newby riders.Turning traction control off in very sandy,mud,water conditions,etc is what I prefer and believe it to be safer.Good job.Thks.JHB-SA.
I'd add another newbie mistake (apart from the obvious one about the first bike being too big, especially in the USA), which is that of getting too tired before realising it. Especially when you first start out and are probably far less fit than you think you are, it is very easy to get overtired, and when you're over tired you start to make more mistakes, so you fall off more, repeat ad nauseam. In Europe, this is unlikely to result in serious consequences, but in the USA, where population densities can be much lower, it can result in permanently bad consequences.
Oh, and in the spirit of your own video, I'll throw in a bonus one; Just because you may be a very experienced road rider doesn't mean that you're not a newbie on an ADV bike.
Thanks for your great content once again.
Great video, all the mistakes you point out are valid. I recently took a BMW adventure riding class. The two most useful things I learned how to do better was keeping my head up and looking further down the trail, and riding very slowly using my body movement to maintain good control.
I call it scanning, pre planning, multitasking 10ft to 100 ft the bikes moves based on terrain, conditions, speed, and capabilities.
Super high quality video as always. Thank you for the content
I’ve been riding bikes for forty years and just got a 2022 BMW R1250 GSA. Your channel has been great to watch with important information. Thanks for your efforts! You are very knowledgeable!
Your commentary is a treat in the very apt words and phrases you use
Your videos are very informative. I’m 51, & getting back into the sport,& get a lot out of them
Thank you for these useful advices - I love your channel & its content.
One important matter to me - being new and sort of a short rider - is how intimidating it’s to handle a tall machine like the GSA 1250. I hope you get a chance to provide us with some tips that can help the situation.
Good job Ian, always enjoy your videos and content. I appreciate your honesty.
Hi, the detail you give is impressive - and extremely useful. Everything you cover is relevant in the 'old' country (UK). It just gets a bit wetter and colder! Looking forward to the next one.
Really enjoyed this stream. Very informative for some one who is thinking about buying an adv bike. Keep up the good work
Great suggestion here.. i learned those earlier only just because a friend of mine is an instructor just like you are ... Thanks a lot from Italy
Good practical riding advice, thanks you for making the video!
Same thing applies to road riding, look where you want to go, eyes on main beam, especially coming out of bends
Thank you very much. Greatly useful as always. Please keep them coming:)
One of the best videos I have seen for off-road riding for beginners, this channel is just the best.
What a beautiful landscape, reminds me of old western movies 😄
The part about standing up was really interesting also the traction control.
Great video 👍🏻
Excellent video, made me want to jump on my 1250 GSA and hit some trails. Have been thinking abut changing to a 690R, I enjoyed your KTM videos too, cheers!
Excellent video, especially the advice on ABS & TC
Thanks Ian. Great job. Good info. God bless. Happy trails.
Absolutely love your channel dude! I love that you can distil your vast riding experience into beginner friendly advice. Really great content and keep up the great work!
Glad you like them!
Thanks for the videos and tips, love your approach to reviewing motorcycles.
I recently had an accident where I fell with 0 klm and my rear wheel made 180 turn and it screwed my left knee (I kept it down to break the fall, big mistake). Ever since that time I have a constant phobia of tipping/sliding/falling off. Any ideas on how to build back confidence, especially on slippery road or dirt road.
These are must needed advice for us beginner riders so we can do a solid bike and ourselves ride prep and going out and have a blast. A whole great day putting in practice every aspect on riding either on and off road. Standing, breaking, turning, focusing on what is ahead and feeling that we are improving every day. Thanks Ian for this subject, if we don't pass through this experience, we will be defenseless.
This channel deserves a million subscriptions.
Great video. I learned a ton and look forward to using some of these germs soon. Thanks again.
thank you for this video, it has been extremely helpful for me, new adventure rider. i now have watched many of your videos and enjoy them very much. thanks again
Great advice and very natural in your presentation. Good luck.
Excellent info as always! My number 1 mistake tip is this. Be honest with oneself about the bike you're selecting. I've seen even the most experienced riders that may be getting into adv riding, getting the biggest bike on the market, or wanting the most power.
Thanks for the video Ian, your work is really appreciated. I agree with your first time mistakes. In particular I found the traction control tip useful. I'm an old school rider who leaves my KTM 390 in Off Road *all* the time. I still struggle to appreciate the benefit of traction control but in any case I cannot turn this off (MTC) on my KTM. The standing up tip is spot on. I laughed at this when I heard about it. I come from a strong off road riding background - trail & motocross as a younger person and mountain bike racing as an older guy. When to stand and not stand is obvious to me - I can't believe people standing and hurtling down a firetrail at 60 mph - seems insane to me. Under those conditions you have less control standing up. Also you are right about how fatigueing standing up while riding is. It makes no sense unless you need to do it. Having said that I really enjoy standing up on long rides to give my butt a rest and keep the circulation going!
Ian - You’re a fast off road rider I saw your speedo crack 50 mph a few times and much of your riding was a quick 30-35 mph. I raced motocross in my youth, but these days, 40 years later, I like a mellow 10 to 20 mph pace off road on my AT as my body would break and not bend in a crash. Great videos, thank you.
Terrific. I am planning to purchase a 2023 GSA and have been watching many (of your) videos in preparation. These are great tips - thanks!
yes this guy has solid content..
Bret Tkacs is another excellent source of off-road riding content
This was very nice to see, I'm still learning offroad on my 2020 AT and the first thing everyone keeps telling me is to make sure I disable all the electronics, so seeing someone actually saying that's not needed and explaining it, kinda makes sense. Would love to see more videos about content regarding offroad for beginners.
Keep up the good work, truly appreciate it.
Henrique the electronics work differently on various bikes. On the AT I rode ( 2016?) the Traction Control was too aggressive when I went onto dirt ( it chopped the power off too abruptly) . Keeping the ABS on the front wheel makes sense though.
excellent advice, thank you!
Truely appreciated! This video is valuable for beginners like myself. More Beginner adventure videos would help us.
great tips and as always great, high quality content.
Thanks very much for this, lots of valuable info!
I am a re-entry rider and have a 1st gen 650 Vstrom...I after adjusting everything on the handlebars for me ..I still added bar risers up and back (I think 1/2" up ..1/2" back) for a more comfortable riding position while out on the highway and then re-adjusted the clutch, brake and handlebar angles again... this is also feels better when I have to stand on the pegs.... I have to hand it to you for riding in the heat ..I hate it down below you in the Coachella Valley.. cuts into my riding time.. it's 85-90 degrees when I get up at 5:00am and 110 at 5:00pm!....LOL .... another good informative video from you!...Thanks
just found your channel by accident. very helpful and thanks for sharing your long-term experience! Since 2019, I am back on the motobike , after riding my pushbike for four years from Munich to Singapore and the loop around Australia. first I bought a BMW R1250GSA WorldTravelEdition fromTouratech and did some offroad-trainings . it is a great bike, but too heavy. I still have it, and take it for long-distances, more or less, on-road-trips. for offroad I have a Husky 701 and I love it. so easy to handle, even with camping gear. I did the AdventureCountryTrack Pyrenees, Col de Sommelleir, Assietta, Alta via del Sale and some TET-Sections in France.. . Due to the fact that I want to go asap on the Panamericana, (Alaska to Ushuaia), I just bought a Yamahe Tenere700... the best between Husky and BMW1250. well, mistakes on the bike: no pain no gain... during offroad-training I broke my right tibia, and another training two rips ... main reason: too tired. ... so stop, rest, drink, eat and it makes no sense to continue if you are still feeling weak/tired. If you are in such a remoted area, which system for emergency call do you have ? I usually use "findmespot/spotconnect" and where are you located ? thanks and have a always a safe ride ! cheers from Germany
Great video!. Remembering the basics and doing them well are key to every sport and activity. Oh, the dreaded #4, so important to reinforce and practice! I admittingly look at gnarly ruts with anxiety and as a result, end up in them too often :o Excellent demo with anti-lock breaks and traction control off-road.
Another good, well constructed video with good, usable content!! Standing up - let's talk visibility - even on relatively flat, smooth dirt roads the reason I stand up sometimes is just so I can see further ahead than if I was sitting down!!
Same as well, if one chooses to stand or sit, it's all up to them. Who is anyone to say when you should sit or stand. Standing breaks up the monotony and freshens up the body.
Great instructional Video. Lots of Great Tips. I don’t know where you are, but what a Beautiful place to go off-roading. Not too hard of a Trail to ride and the Mountains are Beautiful. Thanks for taking the Time to make these Videos. They will benefit a Lot of People.
Fantastic video! I’ve always wondered if you’d need a partial knobby to go on dirt roads at all! I never k ew how much the ABS and traction control can help! Thank you!
Thanks, great stuff. Future video? When you're crashing, what can you do and what should you. Recently I panicked on gravel down hill corner and went off and down an embankment of boulders and trees. Some say stay with the bike, some say jump off and others say it depends.
Hey Ian can you do a video on the TFT display ? Just a basic how to to quickly familiarize with all the functions
It's fun and very good information for the new riders. I cut my teeth on 1970's Yamaha's and Honda's. The two stroke bikes were fast but very temperamental. I had A Yamaha 175, 250 and 360. Changed to the Honda four strokes with the 125, then the 350 black & red 1974 single. My favorite was the 350 single. Lots of torque at low end. Then I went to the 1978 Yamaha TT500. What a beast it was. All the moves you mention in your program I had pretty much mastered but it took a decade of riding to be self taught. No high tech stuff. Just start, put it in gear, twist the throttle and hope for the best.bonsai
Wow it's great information. I learnt so many new things. Thank you
Awesome Video. New to Adventure Bikes with a 1250 GSA, and yes they are a huge beast! Nothing like my Harley's. I still have a lot to learn, it has been many years since my motocross days. Very challenging with a disability. Keep up the great work! Zman
Just watched this great, great video a second or third time. I'd love to see more about riding off-pavement. For examples, using a rear wheel slide to turn the bike, slowing down on a steep downhill or U-turns in tight places. I know that, in all skills, practice with a capital P is essential for all motorcycle skills! Thanks so much!
Very helpful information, thank you!
A possible topic that I think would be super helpful is buying tubes. Its very confusing with all the diff nomenclature. Not to mention HD vs UHD (pros/cons with each) etc. A companion topic could be something to help understand tire sizes and what choices we can make based on the rim size and riding styles… pros/cons of tube/tubeless … running tubeless on tubes rims etc etc. Thanks for informative vids!
Great video thanks tor detailed explanation on each learning steps..I'm 890 R owner It would be nice to see settings of rally modes and different slip levels and where and how should used in different tarain levels.
Great vid. Not just content, but production quality too! Like the new intro, and transition between scenes is better. Ok to use a script, as long as it's not distracting. This vid seemed to flow super naturally, makes it easier to watch. Now smile a bit! lol. Let's get to 50K soon.
Hi Ian, i am an avid watcher of your channel. On myXT250 I have small soft panniers, one side has the tool kit, air compressor, tire repair. Other is for handiwipes, trash bags for my self and what ever trash I snag along the trail, and my water bottles and lunch. I keep my rotopax fuel can on the back rack, as it is low profile. Personally I find the tailbag in the way when mounting or dismounting. In my old age it is easier to swing my leg over than try to shuffle over like Noraly does.
Very helpful thanks
Very useful, thank you! 👍 and Subscribed
Another excellent video. Good information presented in an informal and easy to follow manner. Keep up the great work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I would love to see videos aimed at newbie ADV riders, I have 30 + years on street bikes but am just entering the dark side of adv bikes, I am 57 and just decided it was time to put scraping knee pads and hitting apexes at silly speeds behind me...
MSF makes clear, Look where you want to go, not at what you don't want to Hit!
Great video, once again 👏
Thank you.
Those rod look great. Here in Tennessee, you can’t go very far without deep mud, creek/stream crossings, or some lengthy and stew descents/ascents.
thanks , great info
Have you ever done a video on a 2021 himalayan, love your site, awesome work.
Jim
Bar risers! Some bikes have the handlebars mounted higher than others, some handlebars are higher to start with - the distance from the seat to the handlebars (measured vertically) differs. You might be tall with long legs but shorter arms. Your overall height, your weight, your age, your level of fitness, the type of riding that you do all have a bearing on whether you need them. The fact that with Rox risers you can adjust the handlebars forward or back is why the need was there for them to be invented and become popular. For me I found that I had to crouch too low when in the attack position and quickly became tired with a sore back and legs. I put risers on and now I can control the bike better when standing in technical sections without the pain. My riding is more fun and safer - thanks to a minor adjustment in handlebar height.
very helpful, thank you
Great tips. Thanks!
From the street to the dirt is a transition that's hard for some to make.
Love your videos Thanks for keeping the site going despite all the trouble you have had with the hacking incident. UA-cam needs to be a better partner for folks like you who are serious contributors.
Top vid thank so much!🎉
Hey Ian, Awesome video, I live in Southern California as well, Temecula Valley. Where exactly is this trail? Would love to hit it sometime. I ride a 2018 ATAS. Safe riding bro! I enjoy the content you put out!
excellent tips and practical explanation, what I would like to see is how you are using riding mods for what terrain and situation on KTM 790 adventure R.... think many of us would benefit from video like that, thank you, cheers V!
Really informative and helpful…my hangup is slow riding and U turns …
Excellent advice!!
Great video, thanks! I noticed in the "Bar Riser" section you mentioned "super tall." You also mentioned the Vstrom 650. Bingo!!!
I am 6'3" tall with a 34 inch inseam and with the combo of my height and Vstrom 650XT (2017) I did install bar risers (2 inch Pivoting ROX) which I have on all 3 of my bikes. I would like to include another item to the equation that might help some people. I have had back surgery (partial discectomy at the belt line) and thus I can't bend over much for very long. I am 73 years old and also have calcium deposits and thus I cannot bend my neck back (to look forward if bent over). I know these might be "special" circumstances, but I know other riders with similar limitations. In May of 2021 we rode the TransAmerica Trail from Nevada to Port Orford Oregon on Husberg FE 390s. My riding partner is 6'4" and uses the same bar riser setup. He also has stenosis of the spine and needs to stand up straighter than most. When off road we definitely need to have bent knees, but I also stand more than most when on pavement (simply back relief). The 2 inch risers also help on the Vstrom 650XT when on the road longer than a hour or so (and this is a great travel bike for touring and light off-road).
Kudos of your vids which always are well thought out and you are good at including great details which we all need to remember even if we have been riding for years. -Ray (is SW Colorado)
You go Ray!
@@BurleighBillThanks, Bill. At 73, I'm not sure how much longer I'll be riding. But we do plan to ride more of the TAT this spring (before it gets too hot),
from Trinidad, CO (where we first started our westward TAT trip) to Cape Hatteras, or however far we get on this leg. KUDOS to all the "geezers" who can still ride!!! -Ray
Hi Ray, I have 4 Fusions in my Neck and 2 in my Lower Back. I also have Scoliosis. I Stand a lot also for Back relief and because I can’t Tilt my Head back either. I have a 2006 GS1200 and love how Comfortable it is. I actually traded a nice Harley for it. Between the Heat on the Harley and the forward foot Controls. I couldn’t ride it. I would start hurting bad by the time I went 1/4 Mile. Anyway I love the Adventure Riding. It’s so much more fun. Ivan ride the GS for Miles and I’m comfortable. I hope you have Great Travels and can keep on keeping on. Stay Safe, my hats off to you.
@@joeybobbie1 Great that you are still riding - and one such a great bike. My Vstrom 650XT is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden - so far. A real mile muncher for a 650, one up. Have a great summer.
Tell you what , your the man! Love your videos!
Excellent video, thanks for putting the work in. Subscribed.👍
Thanks
Nice to see good/correct info for ADV bikes…I hit the “subscribe” button 👍
There's some gold in this video. Thanks!
Excellent and informative video!
I really really really like your vids man and the fack that you have my dream bike. I went to bmw today for a test ride and it just sparks my love even more for it. Someday in the near future imma get my triple black gsa, I swear.
I can't get over how awesome that area looks for riding
GREAT INFORMATIONAL VIDEO! THUMBS UP!!!
Very pragmatic tips. Thanks
Very good ideas presented Ian. I pretty much only stand on my GSA in rocky or sandy conditions, as I find a light touch on the bars while sitting gets me through most scenarios. If a rider finds themselves in an ugly rut, they should try to slowly ride the rut, not try to power out, which typically will slide the rear wheel out along the high edge and dump the rider.
I found myself in a deep, narrow, very jagged rut on the fully loaded GSA first thing out of camp (staring at a drop off and deflecting into the rut - stupid. Sitting on the bike trying to power forward was burying the rear wheel, I needed to actually stand over the bike (removing my 200 lbs) and "ride" the bike forward while walking along the ruts high sides. Too much work for 730 on a cold morning!
The biggest take away here is vision. Constantly scanning 30-40 feet ahead buys you time to avoid the pitfalls. If you only look directly in front of you the first obstacle upsets the bike. If you keep control the second, unscanned obstacle further knocks you off your line, etc, until you're out of control.
Great videos. I lived in Moreno Valley for 2 years and rode your area extensively but you're right - it SO hot and dry there. I much prefer the deep forests here in the PNW but you need to deal with cold and damp. Ride safe!