So I went ahead and bought 12ft poles at home depot for around $28, and an end cap to prevent water from getting in. Then dug a 2.5 ft hole and cemented the poles in. It was hard work, took me a good 2hrs of pure manual labor, but it was worth it.
Im looking for 4 poles to hang lights that are strong enough fro cable install. May I ask what type of poles did you get? Im also looking to 12ft and cement them in ground. Was thinking of going 4x4 route but not sure I wanted something that big. One more question do you think the poles are pretty much a lightning rod? Thanks
Well thank you guys for sharing your talents and tips for putting up these lights. I can’t express adequately how grateful I am to see a step by step of hanging these so I can add some lighting to my tiny backyard garden and have it look so much nicer than a tangle of plugs, cords and staples. It was also very heartwarming to have two gentlemen from my home state instructing. All of my family still lives in the DFW area and you guys made me feel like I was visiting home for a few minutes.
A good rule of thumb for setting poles is to bury them 10 percent of the pole length plus 2 feet in soft soils, and 10 percent of the pole length plus 1 foot in hard and rocky soils. This is how set depth is determined for utility poles.
Brilliant! I followed your directions and my backyard looks fabulous! So clean and professional looking. I can’t believe I did this. Thank you guys for your such detailed and clear instructions.
Good video but you should’ve included a “reveal” of how good the finished lights looked. Question: why was the final hook eye screwed into a rafter and not screwed in same spot in beam as the first one?
Yes we should have put a final in there. We wanted the viewing angle from the patio to be similar on both sides and needed another 6” - 9” on that other side.
👍👍👍💝🙏 😩And I foolishly thought I was gonna “just hang the lights”....there’s so much involved in the process. LOL I’m glad I checked UA-cam. This video was very helpful. Thank you! 💝🙏
@@LovingAtlanta I went to a store called Popshelf and bought 4 large tin containers. Very cute, I might add. I was going to pour ready mix concrete in it, with a piece of plywood in the middle, all the same height and add the string lights. I was going to stain the plywood, put rocks on top of the concrete, and dirt on top of the rocks so I could plant flowers. I was discouraged when I watch the video to add the cable wiring, hooks, and screws. I just thought it would be easier.
@@joslynn4310 - 👍Sounds like you had a fantastic plan 😂💝 - I hope you got your lights hung. I ended up hiring a handyman I found on Craigslist- they look great. 💝👍
This was very helpful; thank you. Wish you added the connect instruction to the pole (resistance measures), and also to add the finished look. Still loved the video.
Great video. Question: What is the maximum length of string lights you'll typically allow between two posts/poles before you decide a third one is needed for support?
Isn't it crazy how many different names there are for string lights lol! Your way is the same way that we recommend to our clients. Our company provides DIY string lighting rentals nationwide so that couples don't have to buy equipment or hire an expensive vendor. Thanks again for posting this, I am going to share this with our clients 🤗
Thank you for the basic installation of the string lights. I’m wanting to install hooks on my back patio so you gave me some good instructions. Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Used your guide as my go-to during this ordeal of hanging 168'... Based on my experience, and granted I'm far from a pro, but the turnbuckles are KEY to getting the guide wire perfectly taut as well as maintaining one's (my) sanity.
After you attach it you could use a pair of vice grips and grab the dead horse. Loosen the clamps until the cable can slide freely, and use the eye screw as a pulley to pull the slack out of the full length. Hope that makes sense - seems like that would be easier with two people up there somehow so one person can hold the vice grips while the other guy loosens the clamp.
Thanks guys. I'm having problems finding contractors who will call me back (let alone not charge me a gazillion $'s to do stuff - $4000 to build a 25 ft fence?) so I've been resorting to buying DIY kits and UA-cam. I bought the Yardistry pavillion and the Adjust-A-Gate gate kit, then the string lights, now I just want to put them up without spoiling the whole professional look. The vinyl coated cable should do the trick. :-)
Thanks for the detail explanations guys. You saved me big bucks. Kudos to you guys. I have successfully installed my string lights sets in my backyard.
One thing I learned before hanging my patio lights is that a one-size-fits-all approach will lead to disappointment. Each video I watched had a different approach. The approach I went with was completely different approach from this one as it utilized removavle vertical pipes (5' or 6' long 1" diameter galvanized pipes or conduit that can easily slide in & out of 18" long 1-1/4" PVC pipes that are mounted in the earth with concrete at various locations throughout my yard/patio). These galvanized pipes/conduit with with hooks attached on the top "for the light strings to hang from" are easily removable from the PVC pipes for storage during the Winter months or if I want to change my light pattern in my yard, that too is easily accomplished since the pipes/conduit easily come out of the PVC pipe sections. Just my two cents.
Care to share photos- I was considering something like that- utilizing powder coated slotted tubing that would slide into a cement “ pipe or holder” to allow for easier removal as required.
Hey, guys! Awesome job! This video helped a lot with putting up my lights this year. It consumed my life as the weather was bad every time I wanted to put them up. Materials cost me about $70 but mostly because I didn’t have any damn channel locks.
Where did you plug in the light strands? Is there any additional information on how you ran the extension cord to the lights to hide the cords as much as possible?
Fyi... don’t do what I did by putting the bulbs in first before hanging them... if not hung properly you will lose some bulbs 😐 it’s heavy. Set up the strands first, secure them THEN put the bulbs in.
I was hoping to see how it was connected to the power. I would like to add these to my deck and I’m not sure how to plug or wire these in so they turn on. Thanks!
Hey Linda. Watch the end of the video. Once you put the male connection on, just plug them in. If you want a dimmer installed and tied directly into power, you will want to talk to a local electrician.
Great video, thank you for taking the time to put this up. One question, where did you get that nice looking black pole in the back corner of the yard? Do you have a supply company or us part number? And what is the cost for a good pole like that?
Thank you so much for the great video. For my home I'm looking to do the patio light but inside a pool enclosure, just wanted to know what would you use to secure on aluminum enclosure?
Nice video! I am taking on a project almost identical and you guys have saved me a lot of heartache! With LEDs are there any polarity issues when connecting the plug? Thank you for a great video.
Where did you get the poles? Right now, looking at metal conduit from HD and spraying it black, but interested in where you got the poles for this project.
Really? They don't show the final look? I'm not even going to finish watching it. I just started it but I want to see the end result. Thanks for saving me 9 mins.
Is there a reason you specifically recommend the vinyl coated wire? I’m asking because I already have non-coated wire. What difference should I expect if I went that route? Thank you for the useful content.
Non-coated could rust and fray over time. Which in turn could 1. Splinter someone with any future handling or 2. slice and/or cut into the light strand cord. The vinyl coated just holds up much better over time and (perhaps more importantly) offers safer handling.
Good video! Question about the cable - Whats the longest unsupported span of cable you guys have run to hang lights from? Whats the max span you would go before adding a support?
It depends on how solid your supports are. We’ve ran as far as 80’ before. It’s very difficult, the further you stretch to actually get it hung because of the weight.
I like your video. I have the same setup. Please tell me about the pole you used. What's the material and what is at the top to attach the wire? Thank you.
I have a stainless steel suspension kit for outdoor string lights suspension. The quality is very good. It has a humanized collocation. Special wrench are very labor-saving, and the snap hook carabiner are very convenient to use. There are many good reviews. I would like to ask you to help me take a video of the use. Can you help me take a video ?
@@Longviewlights Hi,I have pictures of ours string lights hanging kit，but I don't know how to contact you, please tell me how to contact you, thank you! Look forward to your reply.
Hey Mrrolltide658. Send longviewlights a DM on Instagram or Facebook and I’ll send you a video on how to install a dimmer. When you buy a dimmer, make sure it is compatible with the type of lights you are using (LED or incandescent)
@@Longviewlights What kind or brand of dimmer did you use? We hung Edison LED Lights from Costco which are gorgeous, but very bright and would very much like to dim them. They are on our back covered porch. Also, we need to cut off the end bc we ended up with about 8 lights too many. Do they have end caps for this? Thanks for your video.
@@MonsieurDee I just completed my lights using a big tree and ran them to the awning on my house, I used the same eye hook method to the tree that these guys used for Pergola, worked out great!
I know you buy the strands at custom lengths. But what is to stop you from buying a 50' run of lights from Amazon, and cutting to length as needed, maybe down 47-1/2 once everything is in place. What's the best way to seal off the cut wire ends?
Yes. Wood will work, it's just not as strong. Just make sure it's cemented in good. I wouldn't go with anything less than a 4x4. Bigger if its over 8' tall. Thanks for watching.
How many caribiners did you used for this install? I didn't see the attachment at the pole in the back; did you just loop the cable through? I trying to figure out how you got the cable and lights attached through that loop.
I want to know if I can make one wiring point and put them all together in the center. I have 4 lines I'd like to make but don't want the back sides to have bulbs or wiring.
What did you do with the end of the light wire that didn’t get a plug attached? How did you terminate it or cap it off from getting wet or electrocuting anyone or anything?
Do you have the links to exactly what you used for the the lights, bulbs and male/female part? Especially the bulbs.... I have no idea what bulbs to use.
A good idea to help get it tight but zip ties will become brittle and fail over time especially if they are exposed to sunlight. Previous owner of my house zip tied wire mesh to the vinyl split rail fence to keep their dogs in and I've been finding that the zip ties will eventually break.
@@onearmedsharkalligatorman You're right. Mine decayed in about 4 yrs. But I like the look and it gives me something to do every 4 yrs. If you've got a longer lasting idea, I'm listening...
Great video, just missing the money shot at the end. I wanted to see them at night in action.
I was going to leave a similar comment but you put it more beautifully hahaha!! Agreed, great video
So I went ahead and bought 12ft poles at home depot for around $28, and an end cap to prevent water from getting in. Then dug a 2.5 ft hole and cemented the poles in. It was hard work, took me a good 2hrs of pure manual labor, but it was worth it.
Awesome. Yes it is a booger but it will for sure pay off for years to com
Im looking for 4 poles to hang lights that are strong enough fro cable install. May I ask what type of poles did you get? Im also looking to 12ft and cement them in ground. Was thinking of going 4x4 route but not sure I wanted something that big. One more question do you think the poles are pretty much a lightning rod?
Thanks
yo! can you recall what 12 ft pole you purchased from HD? im struggling to figure out which one to buy atm!
What size 12 foot poles?
12 foot poles of what material? Poles are the hang up in my job....I need 6-8 poles on 200' of lights
Well thank you guys for sharing your talents and tips for putting up these lights. I can’t express adequately how grateful I am to see a step by step of hanging these so I can add some lighting to my tiny backyard garden and have it look so much nicer than a tangle of plugs, cords and staples. It was also very heartwarming to have two gentlemen from my home state instructing. All of my family still lives in the DFW area and you guys made me feel like I was visiting home for a few minutes.
A good rule of thumb for setting poles is to bury them 10 percent of the pole length plus 2 feet in soft soils, and 10 percent of the pole length plus 1 foot in hard and rocky soils. This is how set depth is determined for utility poles.
In very cold climates, they also need to be buried below the frost line.
Brilliant! I followed your directions and my backyard looks fabulous! So clean and professional looking. I can’t believe I did this. Thank you guys for your such detailed and clear instructions.
Good video but you should’ve included a “reveal” of how good the finished lights looked. Question: why was the final hook eye screwed into a rafter and not screwed in same spot in beam as the first one?
Yes we should have put a final in there. We wanted the viewing angle from the patio to be similar on both sides and needed another 6” - 9” on that other side.
Should of showed it at night so we could see.
👍👍👍💝🙏
😩And I foolishly thought I was gonna “just hang the lights”....there’s so much involved in the process. LOL I’m glad I checked UA-cam. This video was very helpful. Thank you! 💝🙏
Me too. Thinking I could just hang them and secure them to 4 poles.
@@joslynn4310 - 👍IKR …..we’re gonna have to rethink our plan and/or ask for some help. 😩😂
@@LovingAtlanta I went to a store called Popshelf and bought 4 large tin containers. Very cute, I might add. I was going to pour ready mix concrete in it, with a piece of plywood in the middle, all the same height and add the string lights. I was going to stain the plywood, put rocks on top of the concrete, and dirt on top of the rocks so I could plant flowers. I was discouraged when I watch the video to add the cable wiring, hooks, and screws. I just thought it would be easier.
@@joslynn4310 - 👍Sounds like you had a fantastic plan 😂💝 - I hope you got your lights hung. I ended up hiring a handyman I found on Craigslist- they look great. 💝👍
Getting ready to hang my lights. Thank you so much for the tips and tricks. I would have made many mistakes if not for your guidance. Thanks again!
Excellent vid! You are generous with your time and with answering so many questions!
Great patio light setup, and great video. Thanks for the shout out!
Watching from Austin, I used to live in Tyler. Super helpful video, thanks guys!!
This was very helpful; thank you. Wish you added the connect instruction to the pole (resistance measures), and also to add the finished look. Still loved the video.
We used this exact same process and the string lights came out awesome!! Thank you so much.. we used about 300ft of string lights..
Great video. Question: What is the maximum length of string lights you'll typically allow between two posts/poles before you decide a third one is needed for support?
your outdoor living is gorgeous! Nice job
Isn't it crazy how many different names there are for string lights lol! Your way is the same way that we recommend to our clients. Our company provides DIY string lighting rentals nationwide so that couples don't have to buy equipment or hire an expensive vendor. Thanks again for posting this, I am going to share this with our clients 🤗
What is the name of your company?
I am in Australia and thanks very much for sharing your knowledge - I am using solar ones.
Nice vid! I use galvanized wire to hang the lights from. They’re cheap and effective.
same, just bought 110 feet👍
what gauge galvanized wire did you use? Great idea thanks for sharing.
If I remember I used 14ga galvanized wire
@@georgeleakos8376 Thank you!
What about the wire clamps ?
great video, thanks. Disappointed I didn't get to see it at night
Can you give some details on the type of dimmer switch you used and what dimmer you recommend for outdoor use?
Bro thanks for spreading out this knowledge, big respects
Thank you for the basic installation of the string lights. I’m wanting to install hooks on my back patio so you gave me some good instructions. Thank you!
Pls make short video of dimmer. Where to buy how to install. Great video full of info wonderful pace with details. Appreciate ya'll.
Thanks for the video. Used your guide as my go-to during this ordeal of hanging 168'... Based on my experience, and granted I'm far from a pro, but the turnbuckles are KEY to getting the guide wire perfectly taut as well as maintaining one's (my) sanity.
thanks guys - followed your steps and found success on my install patio lights.
After you attach it you could use a pair of vice grips and grab the dead horse. Loosen the clamps until the cable can slide freely, and use the eye screw as a pulley to pull the slack out of the full length. Hope that makes sense - seems like that would be easier with two people up there somehow so one person can hold the vice grips while the other guy loosens the clamp.
Yup, I did this as a kid when I would setup ziplines in my backyard 30 years ago! 🤘😜
Great video! Thanks for posting this, it helped me a lot.
Great job and it looks nice. And congratulations on your first year teaching hope you have a great career..
Thanks Scott. We look forward to making more videos when we have a little time.
Thanks guys. I'm having problems finding contractors who will call me back (let alone not charge me a gazillion $'s to do stuff - $4000 to build a 25 ft fence?) so I've been resorting to buying DIY kits and UA-cam. I bought the Yardistry pavillion and the Adjust-A-Gate gate kit, then the string lights, now I just want to put them up without spoiling the whole professional look. The vinyl coated cable should do the trick. :-)
Thanks for the detail explanations guys. You saved me big bucks. Kudos to you guys. I have successfully installed my string lights sets in my backyard.
One thing I learned before hanging my patio lights is that a one-size-fits-all approach will lead to disappointment. Each video I watched had a different approach. The approach I went with was completely different approach from this one as it utilized removavle vertical pipes (5' or 6' long 1" diameter galvanized pipes or conduit that can easily slide in & out of 18" long 1-1/4" PVC pipes that are mounted in the earth with concrete at various locations throughout my yard/patio). These galvanized pipes/conduit with with hooks attached on the top "for the light strings to hang from" are easily removable from the PVC pipes for storage during the Winter months or if I want to change my light pattern in my yard, that too is easily accomplished since the pipes/conduit easily come out of the PVC pipe sections.
Just my two cents.
Care to share photos- I was considering something like that- utilizing powder coated slotted tubing that would slide into a cement “ pipe or holder” to allow for easier removal as required.
Nice job thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Hey, guys! Awesome job! This video helped a lot with putting up my lights this year. It consumed my life as the weather was bad every time I wanted to put them up. Materials cost me about $70 but mostly because I didn’t have any damn channel locks.
Thanks for the night view, awesome reveal.
Many thanks for the informative video, it was great
My channel our pleasure. Thanks for watching
Great job guys! Shane is a funny dude. I had to like and subscribe. Thanks
Thank you!!! I installed the lights and they looks amazing and so nice!
Our pleasure. Glad you were able to tackle the project
Where did you plug in the light strands? Is there any additional information on how you ran the extension cord to the lights to hide the cords as much as possible?
Southern accent sounds funny and cute at the same time.
Fyi... don’t do what I did by putting the bulbs in first before hanging them... if not hung properly you will lose some bulbs 😐 it’s heavy. Set up the strands first, secure them THEN put the bulbs in.
They did mention that..
Great video. Would you be able to share where would be the best place be to get the black pole that you all used and what it’s called?
It's answered somewhere in the comments now, I read it while scrolling
Thank you! Very helpful!
Nice job guys; thank you!
Nice job guys!
Little suprised to see you guys using vinyl covered cable in 2018, Dyneema doesn't rust and much lighter
Zip tie instead of s hooks. Use UV rated zip ties. Way faster than s hooks
Where's the grand finale (reveal)...finished product??
Thanks for the video! What do you attach to the pole to hang the string lights?
Yw Brenda. We welded a loop to attach it
I was hoping to see how it was connected to the power. I would like to add these to my deck and I’m not sure how to plug or wire these in so they turn on. Thanks!
Hey Linda. Watch the end of the video. Once you put the male connection on, just plug them in. If you want a dimmer installed and tied directly into power, you will want to talk to a local electrician.
Great video, thank you for taking the time to put this up. One question, where did you get that nice looking black pole in the back corner of the yard? Do you have a supply company or us part number? And what is the cost for a good pole like that?
It's just a 3" pole from a steel supply company locally. We welded the end cap and a piece of chain link to it then painted it.
Where would one find a pole like the one shown?
Thanks for taking the time to make & post the video. Very helpful. What size eye hooks did you use?
Thanks! Helpful
Installing eye bolts- once its starting stick a screwdriver through the hole and use it as leverage it will make install easier
Good point
Or throw a J-hook into your drill chuck.
@@andynichols3464 if you want to go to prison! Sicko!
@@stevenbrown5210 Haha nice! You must be a medical professional, only people I know that can make anything dirty.
Gator bit
Thank you so much for the great video. For my home I'm looking to do the patio light but inside a pool enclosure, just wanted to know what would you use to secure on aluminum enclosure?
7:33 He's going to the turnbuckle.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Great job nice video I think I was your 1k subscriber
Nice Video Thank you...
Awesome video 🥰👏 Thank you for your professional knowledge🙏
Very helpful
Thank you very much; very helpful.
Very welcome
Nice video! I am taking on a project almost identical and you guys have saved me a lot of heartache! With LEDs are there any polarity issues when connecting the plug? Thank you for a great video.
Thank you!
Nice. Thank you
I have 1/16 wire cable, will this cable be able to handle the weight?
Where did you get the poles? Right now, looking at metal conduit from HD and spraying it black, but interested in where you got the poles for this project.
There's a comment I just read answering this, sorry I lost where it is lol
Suggestion : show the final results perhaps? 🤷♂️
Really? They don't show the final look? I'm not even going to finish watching it. I just started it but I want to see the end result. Thanks for saving me 9 mins.
Hello any instructions on how to install the pole???
Where can I buy this black long pole?!!
Is there a reason you specifically recommend the vinyl coated wire? I’m asking because I already have non-coated wire. What difference should I expect if I went that route? Thank you for the useful content.
Non-coated could rust and fray over time. Which in turn could 1. Splinter someone with any future handling or 2. slice and/or cut into the light strand cord. The vinyl coated just holds up much better over time and (perhaps more importantly) offers safer handling.
Just use 14 ga galvanized wire, much cheaper, thinner, and just as strong
Good video! Question about the cable - Whats the longest unsupported span of cable you guys have run to hang lights from? Whats the max span you would go before adding a support?
It depends on how solid your supports are. We’ve ran as far as 80’ before. It’s very difficult, the further you stretch to actually get it hung because of the weight.
Question about the cable… Why do you need to use final coated?
Vinyl
I like your video. I have the same setup. Please tell me about the pole you used. What's the material and what is at the top to attach the wire? Thank you.
Someone answered this in the comments. I think he said welding, and the pole is metal
I have a stainless steel suspension kit for outdoor string lights suspension. The quality is very good. It has a humanized collocation. Special wrench are very labor-saving, and the snap hook carabiner are very convenient to use. There are many good reviews. I would like to ask you to help me take a video of the use. Can you help me take a video ?
Hey Best Ho. Do you have a website with info or can you email pictures and specifications to me?
@@Longviewlights Hi,I have pictures of ours string lights hanging kit，but I don't know how to contact you, please tell me how to contact you, thank you! Look forward to your reply.
Great video!! I have a cedar sided house. How do I connect the lights to the cedar siding so the lights hang over my deck?
Looking for the model of the dimmer switch you used for this project.
Would it be fine to use galvanized cable instead of vinyl coated? I've seen old vinyl coated cables that turn color and crack or flake away over time.
Cable companies almost always will say not to use cable clamps. Instead use the sleeves and crimp them.
Do you have a video on the dimmer install? I couldn’t seem to locate one on a search for your channel.
Hey Mrrolltide658. Send longviewlights a DM on Instagram or Facebook and I’ll send you a video on how to install a dimmer. When you buy a dimmer, make sure it is compatible with the type of lights you are using (LED or incandescent)
@@Longviewlights What kind or brand of dimmer did you use? We hung Edison LED Lights from Costco which are gorgeous, but very bright and would very much like to dim them. They are on our back covered porch. Also, we need to cut off the end bc we ended up with about 8 lights too many. Do they have end caps for this? Thanks for your video.
size of the eye bolt shaft? Assuming it's 1/4+, using a 5/16 drill to set the hole.
Any advice for a backyard that only has a big tree? Thinking of use the tree as a base
I'm curious too. I'm in the same situation.
@@coltman2k13 I needed up going off of my house.
@@MonsieurDee I just completed my lights using a big tree and ran them to the awning on my house, I used the same eye hook method to the tree that these guys used for Pergola, worked out great!
Go Rangers 🤙🏼
@Longview Lights
Advice on poles? Material? Height? I'm using 7-8 poles, approx 200ft lights over pool....want to make sure poles are secure
In this case you’re using the eye hooks on the wood. But what do you use when hooking up on brick or concrete?
Brick or concrete anchors
Anyone know what they used for the metal post seen at the corner at the yard space?
When you said ambience I started to tune out because I don't speak French
Hello Can you tell us where you were able to get the pole for the lights?
Where did you get your pole? Thanks.
It's answered somewhere in the comments now, I read it while scrolling
I know you buy the strands at custom lengths. But what is to stop you from buying a 50' run of lights from Amazon, and cutting to length as needed, maybe down 47-1/2 once everything is in place. What's the best way to seal off the cut wire ends?
What kind of poles did you use? What’s the height? Can we use wood ones?
Yes. Wood will work, it's just not as strong. Just make sure it's cemented in good. I wouldn't go with anything less than a 4x4. Bigger if its over 8' tall. Thanks for watching.
How many caribiners did you used for this install? I didn't see the attachment at the pole in the back; did you just loop the cable through? I trying to figure out how you got the cable and lights attached through that loop.
if i'm covering like 15" across a covered patio, do you think i need the braided wire?
Any ideas for attaching to an alumawood patio?
Honestly, I'm not sure about that. We have never installed on alumawood. I'm sorry I cant be more helpful here.
I want to know if I can make one wiring point and put them all together in the center. I have 4 lines I'd like to make but don't want the back sides to have bulbs or wiring.
What did you do with the end of the light wire that didn’t get a plug attached? How did you terminate it or cap it off from getting wet or electrocuting anyone or anything?
Should I use the black wire?
what do you use to connect the lights to gutters or siding of the house?
What did you do with the other end of the wire on the pole? It was cut and no end on it
No after shot at night?
Do you have the links to exactly what you used for the the lights, bulbs and male/female part? Especially the bulbs.... I have no idea what bulbs to use.
With mine, I used zip ties on either side of each light. Made it tight and less likely to swing in wind. Also "hid" cable, to an extent.
Very good idea
A good idea to help get it tight but zip ties will become brittle and fail over time especially if they are exposed to sunlight. Previous owner of my house zip tied wire mesh to the vinyl split rail fence to keep their dogs in and I've been finding that the zip ties will eventually break.
Very true. That’s why we don’t use zip ties but if you don’t mind replacing the zip ties once a year then it’s all good.
@@onearmedsharkalligatorman You're right. Mine decayed in about 4 yrs. But I like the look and it gives me something to do every 4 yrs. If you've got a longer lasting idea, I'm listening...
@@tedhursh9058 6" of bare copper wire corkscrewed around the two.