I think it's mainly because his character's private home life slows down the pacing of the movie, this scene along with a bunch of deleted scenes would ruined the atmosphere or pacing. Personally what I like about this scene is how he seems to be thinking about the fact it all went south and they were forced to kill those guards, and he was the one who was to execute the last guard in cold blood. Also the parallel of having two little girls and being forced to take a young girl hostage later on
this movie is great because both the good guys and bad guys have their own personal lives; it gives them depth. They also didnt overdo it, and now I know what happened to the extra scenes haha
Man Mike came so close. He defused himself. The wife has a good feeling how bad it might be just by that forced smile, not arguing with her. And she goes with it rather than press. Because he just saw a loose cannon blow some guards brains out which made another guard go for his gun, forcing Mike to open fire. Only to keep an eye on that loose cannon Waingro for hours. Only for him to escape. The man who turned timed robbery considered Neil's rule, leaving the scene 30 seconds before police response time. 150 seconds or less to a 180 second response time, into a manhunt after 3 guards were found dead. Comes home to his wife and kids and seems like the kids are what's keeping him together through that stressful situation.
I bet this scene was a hard decision. Could have been in there. The movie didn't put almost no scenes of Michael Cheritto. The scene was pretty ok.... no big bugs, and was suppose to come probably after he has decided to do the bank robbery.
mumi karic remember how he asks neil "is this the best thing to do ? is this the best thing to do ?" and neil tells him that if he was him he would have got out cause he doesn't need it as badly as Neil and Shiherlis. But then Cherito said he's in and for him "the action is the juice". so that scene should have come after that and before the bank heat, so of course this scene shows us how he is concerned about doing the risky bank heat and destroying his family.
Man, I didn't even know Heat had a sequel in book form. I researched right now, and I saw that the book will be released in PT-BR soon. Thank you anyway. Hugs from Brazil!
I believe Cerrito here is Crashing on meth. His substance abuse was alluded to in different scenes, and here, that spaceyness is a surefire indicator. IIRC this is when Sizemore got hooked on speed in real life, causing a beef with Mann, maybe why these scenes and his background as a charecter were basically cut out of the film. He was my favorite charecter. He is on methamphetamine here, sure as Hanna is coked up to the gills the whole movie
Matt Verellen .... watched the movie 10 times. never alludes to drug use. Infact, in story arc, Neil would never trust or work with someone with Substance abuse issues. i think you re mixing up character with Sizemore the actor and his legendary meth addiction
Matt Verellen Cheritto was hardened criminal and was in prison for armed robbery and assault along with other felonies but not drug use as his background is told in movie but nothing about drug or alcohol abuse. Tom Sizemore had drug issues including addiction to cocaine
@@jsilva4847 Sort of like the Iceman Charles K. He was a hitman for the Gambino crime family. Loved his family, had no problem icing other people's families
@@jsilva4847 he also had a long rap sheet as explained in the movie including armed robbery and assault but he wasn’t afraid to kill someone or take down scores with Neil and rest of crew and come home like nothing happened.
@@mohammedashian8094 Well, it would be nice if the studio re-released a special edition with all the deleted scenes restored like with the Lethal Weapon films.
Cheritto's definitely an adrenaline junkie. I wonder what kind of life did he have before turning to crime? Bodyguard? Former pro-athlete? Whatever it was, it wasn't enough to keep him on the lawful side of things.
He was in and out of prison most of his life known as a career criminal. His rap sheet is a mile long as said by Hanna’s team when Hanna finds out about Cheritto from his colleague Detective Casals on the phone. He tells Vincent Cheritto has 33 arrests since 1976, 11 for armed robbery and 3 convictions. He served hard time in Attica, and Folsom. Neil also served time in Folsom as he a career criminal himself.
There’s a scene where the crew was out to dinner in a restaurant with their significant others. Cherrito brought his 2 kids and presented his wife a gift. I guess there were too many subplots as it is because they were already focusing on Hanna, Neil, Chris and Breedan’s personal lives.
Why the fuck did they delete this scene? Everyone else had scenes with their family, why not Cheritto? Especially since he was the one guy out of all of them with the most to lose - as far as I know he was the only one with kids. Sad what happened to him, though I can't say he didn't deserve it.
goldsmice Chris played by Val Kilmer had a son Dominic with his wife Charlene. Cheritto was a psychotic armed robber and career criminal with a long rap sheet for robbery and assault. He was in prison in Folsom for years before he met his wife and his criminal back ground is explained in the movie.
I'm glad they cut this scene, it doesn't really mesh well with his character being an adrenaline junkie. Plus I can't see something who loves his kids using an innocent kid as a human shield/hostage
this is an intereting scene because you really don't know much about michaels family life. not like this scene really says much about it anyway though, but it's something.
VanillaLimeCoke Cheritto is psychotic and a hardened criminal he doesn’t show a lot of empathy. He is more focused on his career taking down scores with Neil.
Clearly this needed to be removed. It was too cliched, too forced. We didn't need another scene of the distant macho tattooed bad boy going home to the unfailingly understanding and absolutely unquestioningly chaste, faithful and beautiful wife who just happens to have a hobby of collecting, befriending and marrying violent prison pen pals. It's not realistic or interesting. The dynamic with Chris and his wife was interesting.
the scenes with the family really change Sizemores character Cheritto, especially how he died. With these scenes I really think he wasn't trying to use the kid as a shield but was concerned about her getting her out.
@KentAllard That's a plausible explanation. When Pacino lines up his shot, Sizemore holds the girl to the side and not directly in front of him so there's a blurring of his morality and criminal tendencies as this scene shows. On the other hand, Michael Mann says in the dvd commentary that criminals like Sizemore's character only care for their kids and not those of other people.
He was a good looking man. He was a good actor. He was a good friend of a good friend. He'll be sorely missed
Man, Sizemore really was something. R.I.P. bro :(
RIP, Tom Sizemore.
I think it's mainly because his character's private home life slows down the pacing of the movie, this scene along with a bunch of deleted scenes would ruined the atmosphere or pacing. Personally what I like about this scene is how he seems to be thinking about the fact it all went south and they were forced to kill those guards, and he was the one who was to execute the last guard in cold blood. Also the parallel of having two little girls and being forced to take a young girl hostage later on
Slows down the pacing? The movies almost 3 hours long
@@BostonsF1nestThe length of the movie doesn’t mean you can’t have pacing.
It can be 2 or 4 hours, you still want good pacing for the movie.
this movie is great because both the good guys and bad guys have their own personal lives; it gives them depth. They also didnt overdo it, and now I know what happened to the extra scenes haha
That thick envelope of cash is all was it was about.
Cherrito. Michael Cherrito
Man Mike came so close. He defused himself. The wife has a good feeling how bad it might be just by that forced smile, not arguing with her. And she goes with it rather than press.
Because he just saw a loose cannon blow some guards brains out which made another guard go for his gun, forcing Mike to open fire. Only to keep an eye on that loose cannon Waingro for hours. Only for him to escape. The man who turned timed robbery considered Neil's rule, leaving the scene 30 seconds before police response time. 150 seconds or less to a 180 second response time, into a manhunt after 3 guards were found dead.
Comes home to his wife and kids and seems like the kids are what's keeping him together through that stressful situation.
I bet this scene was a hard decision.
Could have been in there.
The movie didn't put almost no scenes of Michael Cheritto.
The scene was pretty ok.... no big bugs, and was suppose to come probably after he has decided to do the bank robbery.
mumi karic remember how he asks neil "is this the best thing to do ? is this the best thing to do ?"
and neil tells him that if he was him he would have got out cause he doesn't need it as badly as Neil and Shiherlis.
But then Cherito said he's in and for him "the action is the juice".
so that scene should have come after that and before the bank heat, so of course this scene shows us how he is concerned about doing the risky bank heat and destroying his family.
It actually is Tom Sizemore’s crew. DeNiro just happens to call the shots.
As "Heat 2" refers to him, "An affable sociopath."
Man, I didn't even know Heat had a sequel in book form. I researched right now, and I saw that the book will be released in PT-BR soon. Thank you anyway. Hugs from Brazil!
I believe Cerrito here is Crashing on meth. His substance abuse was alluded to in different scenes, and here, that spaceyness is a surefire indicator. IIRC this is when Sizemore got hooked on speed in real life, causing a beef with Mann, maybe why these scenes and his background as a charecter were basically cut out of the film. He was my favorite charecter. He is on methamphetamine here, sure as Hanna is coked up to the gills the whole movie
Matt Verellen .... watched the movie 10 times. never alludes to drug use. Infact, in story arc, Neil would never trust or work with someone with Substance abuse issues. i think you re mixing up character with Sizemore the actor and his legendary meth addiction
Matt Verellen Cheritto was hardened criminal and was in prison for armed robbery and assault along with other felonies but not drug use as his background is told in movie but nothing about drug or alcohol abuse. Tom Sizemore had drug issues including addiction to cocaine
The funny thing is this actually does happen in real life. Come home to the fam after some illegal ass shit.
Difference is this piece of shit used a kid as a shield after coming home to kids of the same age. That's not common
@@el34glo59 “He’s Mr. Family Values, loves his kids, but he doesn’t love your kids,” says Mann. “He’s a complete stone-cold sociopath.”
@@jsilva4847 Sort of like the Iceman Charles K. He was a hitman for the Gambino crime family. Loved his family, had no problem icing other people's families
@@jsilva4847 he also had a long rap sheet as explained in the movie including armed robbery and assault but he wasn’t afraid to kill someone or take down scores with Neil and rest of crew and come home like nothing happened.
He deserved way more Play on the film.I think that they each deserved a Fair play in the movie.Still was a awesome movie!!!
His home life wasn't shown. They should have kept his scenes in. Thanks for these.
probably hurt the actress to get her scene cut
Probably hurts the movie to keep the scene.
The way he is looking over his shoulders....
Shoulda kept this, Trejo and Sharito, they never showed their personal lives and how real the stakes were for them at home
They should keep every deleted scene of this masterpiece.
I think for runtime purposes and that it kind of slows down the pacing they cut them out
@@mohammedashian8094 Well, it would be nice if the studio re-released a special edition with all the deleted scenes restored like with the Lethal Weapon films.
@@johndonwood4305 yeah that would be great
Cheritto's definitely an adrenaline junkie. I wonder what kind of life did he have before turning to crime? Bodyguard? Former pro-athlete? Whatever it was, it wasn't enough to keep him on the lawful side of things.
In the movie they said that he was in and out of prison most of his life.. Sounds like he’s never been much of anything
He was in and out of prison most of his life known as a career criminal. His rap sheet is a mile long as said by Hanna’s team when Hanna finds out about Cheritto from his colleague Detective Casals on the phone. He tells Vincent Cheritto has 33 arrests since 1976, 11 for armed robbery and 3 convictions. He served hard time in Attica, and Folsom. Neil also served time in Folsom as he a career criminal himself.
In the version I saw, his family life was completely absent from the movie. They definitely should have kept this nice 40 seconds in.
There’s a scene where the crew was out to dinner in a restaurant with their significant others. Cherrito brought his 2 kids and presented his wife a gift. I guess there were too many subplots as it is because they were already focusing on Hanna, Neil, Chris and Breedan’s personal lives.
Why the fuck did they delete this scene? Everyone else had scenes with their family, why not Cheritto? Especially since he was the one guy out of all of them with the most to lose - as far as I know he was the only one with kids. Sad what happened to him, though I can't say he didn't deserve it.
goldsmice Chris played by Val Kilmer had a son Dominic with his wife Charlene. Cheritto was a psychotic armed robber and career criminal with a long rap sheet for robbery and assault. He was in prison in Folsom for years before he met his wife and his criminal back ground is explained in the movie.
Chris and Charlene had Dominic…..
One of those rare moments when Tom Sizemore has to pretend like he’s a normal human being. Had to be tough.
I'm glad they cut this scene, it doesn't really mesh well with his character being an adrenaline junkie. Plus I can't see something who loves his kids using an innocent kid as a human shield/hostage
Loving your family is the easiest thing in the world. Pablo Escobar killed many children, but loved his own children.
this is an intereting scene because you really don't know much about michaels family life. not like this scene really says much about it anyway though, but it's something.
wow, when you put it that way it does make sense. I'd probably be worse in that situation.
@hsieh811 I think right after the armored transport hold up at the beginning of the movie....but I may be wrong ;)
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Those deleted scenes are so professional and so real.Why did not they put them into the movie?
Some of them feel kind of off. When you are a director you have to make hard decisions
Runtime was a factor too
yea dey defintly should hav showed these
Which part of the movie for this to be fitted in? Before the heat or after?
hsieh811 this was after the armored car job.
They should have tried doing this better. interesting scene, but obviously not well enough to get in movie.
Looks like he's acting mentally strange.
VanillaLimeCoke Cheritto is psychotic and a hardened criminal he doesn’t show a lot of empathy. He is more focused on his career taking down scores with Neil.
Clearly this needed to be removed. It was too cliched, too forced. We didn't need another scene of the distant macho tattooed bad boy going home to the unfailingly understanding and absolutely unquestioningly chaste, faithful and beautiful wife who just happens to have a hobby of collecting, befriending and marrying violent prison pen pals. It's not realistic or interesting. The dynamic with Chris and his wife was interesting.
How do you know it's not realistic? Lol I'm so sick of people throwing around that word so much 🙄.
@@Lightner445555555555 Maybe it is realistic. You might have a point there LOL.
the scenes with the family really change Sizemores character Cheritto, especially how he died. With these scenes I really think he wasn't trying to use the kid as a shield but was concerned about her getting her out.
Lol
You can't be serious?
KentAllard, lol you're joking, right🤣🤣?
@KentAllard That's a plausible explanation. When Pacino lines up his shot, Sizemore holds the girl to the side and not directly in front of him so there's a blurring of his morality and criminal tendencies as this scene shows. On the other hand, Michael Mann says in the dvd commentary that criminals like Sizemore's character only care for their kids and not those of other people.
that's maybe why is the only one who survive in the end.
Yevgeny Makarov....he is killed by Pacino character in bank heist getaway. did you watch the movie?
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