Great breakdown, one little thing: the Quick Fuel kit did have the gasket for the electric choke, it got mixed in with the AED kit (which didn't have one) at the 10:10 mark.
The 4160 is an excellent carb with great street manners. I had one on my 66 El Camino at one time but switched to a 4150 as I started racing it. Before you made your pick of the best kit I thought was the Edelbrock was a great choice for a first timer because of the instruction sheet. Your right about the air horn gaskets not being in the kit. I started collecting them over the years.
I’ve tried to make that as clear as possible about carburetors. There’s a place for every well designed (not a knock off) carburetor manufactured by their well known makers. It’s like camshafts. There isn’t a one size fits all. The 4160 has its place and does it’s job well.
You never showed the Holley kits. The Renew, or the Trick. I’ve used a few of them before, and was pleased to have extra parts. I’ve used a Summit, and AED kits before too. I’ve got an old 650 double pumper that’s been in a box for over 39 years. I’ve got more than a few Holley books on my shelf. I’m thinking about getting a Proform main body, and maybe the Quik Fuel kit. I’ve been running vacuum secondary carbs since the early eighties, and I wanna take a stab at the 650 again. I finally got 3:73 gears in the rear, a bigger X-tremendous cam, Proform heads, and a 3” dual exhaust system. Got the MSD ignition straightened out, so I’m interested in how a double pumper is gonna work
@@stevenbongiorno9277 I’d have to go back and watch the video, but I’m sure I mentioned that’s what was available at the time I ordered and what was at the local auto parts store.
Excellent job on explaining all the different hardware actually had a carburetor that I need to rebuild I know it needs. A bass plate. You have any suggestions where would be the best bye
It needs a new base plate? Can try eBay to see if someone has one or a core to sell cheap. Or buy a new one if cost isn’t an issue. They can get quite expensive.
I got a 307 olds with a Qjet and im looking for a carb to replace, would these be a good replacement? If not what carbs do you recommend for street/weekend drag racing
Hard to say. Assuming because it’s a 307 it’s just more of a cruiser. Very hard to beat the Edelbrock AVS2 line. Very easy to tune and operates extremely well with the annular boosters on a street car. The 4160 series holleys are good as well. If you have a brand preference. Either one work well.
What year is the car? Why replace the Qjet? Worn out throttle shaft? Computer controlled? Broken metering rod springs? I'm a ford guy, a 25 year ASE master and did mostly drivability and electrical repair and the Qjet is the best street carb ever made IMO. Your 307 may have a funny secondary air plate that only opens about half way. Why I have no clue, carb CFM to large for the engine in Olds eyes? A non crippled correctly functioning Qjet will put anything short of fuel injection the shame as far as drivability and fuel economy are concerned. Biggest downside is they are limited to 500HP or less do lack of fuel flow through the needle and seat. The small float size limits the size of the needle and seat that can be used. Best Qjets came off of pre 72 big block cars and trucks with the cady ones having the most CFM. Ford used Qjets on some 351C's and 429CJ's, hell even Chrysler used Qjets on later model small bocks. If this is a computer controlled 307 check for vacuum on the hose going to the bowl vent on the carb. The canister purge valves like to fail causing a vacuum on the float bowl. May only happen off idle or any time. A thermal vacuum switch in the same circuit is also prone to fail. I always replaced both anyway.
It wasn’t in stock the day I ordered those kits. I’d have to look back to see if I kept any notes but I believe the Holley trick kit was the only one available but it was out of the price range I wanted to keep these at.
Great breakdown, one little thing: the Quick Fuel kit did have the gasket for the electric choke, it got mixed in with the AED kit (which didn't have one) at the 10:10 mark.
Hey good eye!
The biggest headache on a 4160 for me has always been... o rings for the crossover tube. Extras are always welcome.
Thankfully they don’t come with o-rings anymore.
@@MuscleCarSolutions those new tube style seals are FANTASTIC compared to the old o rings!
@@stevestaples6650 love them! Makes the assembly simple.
What about the "Holley" kit .....mine has the upgraded secondary metering block instead of plate. What is the benifit of that....
The 4160 is an excellent carb with great street manners. I had one on my 66 El Camino at one time but switched to a 4150 as I started racing it. Before you made your pick of the best kit I thought was the Edelbrock was a great choice for a first timer because of the instruction sheet. Your right about the air horn gaskets not being in the kit. I started collecting them over the years.
I’ve tried to make that as clear as possible about carburetors. There’s a place for every well designed (not a knock off) carburetor manufactured by their well known makers. It’s like camshafts. There isn’t a one size fits all. The 4160 has its place and does it’s job well.
Now if we could just make everybody understand how good the quadrajets are, too haha
Great job on showing the different options. 👍
Thank you sir!
That's a pretty big spread on those kits, wow. Thanks for the comparison. Great vid!
I wanted kits that were a little different but these had a pretty big variance. Still good to show that not all rebuild kits are the same!
@@MuscleCarSolutions Oh! Absolutely!
Great video!
I alway though the right way to tune a holly was to through it in the bin and grab yourself an edelbrock
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Very happy viewer from Québec here ! Great channel, excellent job
Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying it!
You never showed the Holley kits. The Renew, or the Trick. I’ve used a few of them before, and was pleased to have extra parts. I’ve used a Summit, and AED kits before too. I’ve got an old 650 double pumper that’s been in a box for over 39 years. I’ve got more than a few Holley books on my shelf. I’m thinking about getting a Proform main body, and maybe the Quik Fuel kit. I’ve been running vacuum secondary carbs since the early eighties, and I wanna take a stab at the 650 again. I finally got 3:73 gears in the rear, a bigger X-tremendous cam, Proform heads, and a 3” dual exhaust system. Got the MSD ignition straightened out, so I’m interested in how a double pumper is gonna work
@@stevenbongiorno9277 I’d have to go back and watch the video, but I’m sure I mentioned that’s what was available at the time I ordered and what was at the local auto parts store.
you moved the choke gasket from the Quik fuel to the AED by accident. 10:09 time
Yup. Someone caught that earlier. Good eye!
been waiting on pistons for 3 months you bet there is still supply chain problems!
参考になります、残念ながらQuick Fuel kitは日本で入手不可能です。
前回はAEDキットを使いました。
Excellent job on explaining all the different hardware actually had a carburetor that I need to rebuild I know it needs. A bass plate. You have any suggestions where would be the best bye
It needs a new base plate? Can try eBay to see if someone has one or a core to sell cheap. Or buy a new one if cost isn’t an issue. They can get quite expensive.
I did see where you can drill them out and put new brass pushing them them. Just haven't got there yet
I like these carbs for there single feed fuel line
Easy for those mostly stock engines!
Have you done any videos showing how to tune a carburetor with an AFR gauge? If not, would you please?
Yup. Eventually we’ll get there. Probably a few months away.
I got a 307 olds with a Qjet and im looking for a carb to replace, would these be a good replacement? If not what carbs do you recommend for street/weekend drag racing
Hard to say. Assuming because it’s a 307 it’s just more of a cruiser. Very hard to beat the Edelbrock AVS2 line. Very easy to tune and operates extremely well with the annular boosters on a street car. The 4160 series holleys are good as well. If you have a brand preference. Either one work well.
What year is the car? Why replace the Qjet? Worn out throttle shaft? Computer controlled? Broken metering rod springs? I'm a ford guy, a 25 year ASE master and did mostly drivability and electrical repair and the Qjet is the best street carb ever made IMO. Your 307 may have a funny secondary air plate that only opens about half way. Why I have no clue, carb CFM to large for the engine in Olds eyes? A non crippled correctly functioning Qjet will put anything short of fuel injection the shame as far as drivability and fuel economy are concerned. Biggest downside is they are limited to 500HP or less do lack of fuel flow through the needle and seat. The small float size limits the size of the needle and seat that can be used. Best Qjets came off of pre 72 big block cars and trucks with the cady ones having the most CFM. Ford used Qjets on some 351C's and 429CJ's, hell even Chrysler used Qjets on later model small bocks. If this is a computer controlled 307 check for vacuum on the hose going to the bowl vent on the carb. The canister purge valves like to fail causing a vacuum on the float bowl. May only happen off idle or any time. A thermal vacuum switch in the same circuit is also prone to fail. I always replaced both anyway.
Curious why you didn’t use a Holley kit ? 37-119
It wasn’t in stock the day I ordered those kits. I’d have to look back to see if I kept any notes but I believe the Holley trick kit was the only one available but it was out of the price range I wanted to keep these at.