Started golfing twenty years ago I’m 84 now. You just provided the missing link. My swing and ball striking has improved immensely. It’s a natural and easy move. You just need to know it’s required. Many thanks.
Great content Eric! this move actually ties in with early extension. By rotating the right shoulder down through impact keeping that side bend, the butt has to stay back to keep the correct balance in the swing. This is the drill that helped to fix my early extension.
An essential piece to a good golf swing and often what is missing for those who aren't consistent ball strikers. What I have found is the left hip has to be firing back and out of the way to get the right shoulder down and chest open at impact. Sync these moves up and you are striping them.
What fantastic detail. And explained brilliantly, so easy to follow. Fixed my issue which was dropping the right shoulder, but I was falling back. Copied what you demonstrated. Done it soft shots at start. Back to striking the ball perfect. Thanks
Great job Eric! Finally, a great explanation on the "right shoulder down" sequence in the golf swing! I've been trying to accomplish this move to improve my shot making.
I like the right shoulder as a downswing thought, and I find restricting the right side bend as long as possible helps the transition while keeping the right shoulder from moving down too quickly.
Yet another outstanding piece of instruction, Mr Cogorno! I almost get the feeling the club 'kicks out' a tad and really comes down the 'rails' and is squaring all the time. The strike and sound is real pleasing... William
Very good video. 2 things that would help would be 1) a head on slow motion video of the right arm and wrist at impact, and 2) how this relates to hitting driver, where the intent is to hit up on the ball.
Hi Eric. MUST this right shoulder move (DOWN and FORWARD) come AFTERbottom hal weight shift or simultaneously. Thank you for your passion and dedication to all of us
Great video. I'm 74 and still trying to play. I couldn't help but notice that another factor in getting the shoulder forward is transferring the weight/pressure to the left side. In addition the radius is shortened by the opening of the hips/core both features of which are visible in watching the video closely with regard to your hips and the weight transfer to your left foot with the inside of your left foot off the ground as you make this move. Your videos are incredible in both quality and content. It's a little frustrating to hear that crisp, clean contact you make with every shot. LOL!
Eric - I don't know if you can do it, but it would be great to see a tracer on your shots so we can see the ball flight/draw. It won't make a difference in terms of the info you're giving us. But it will be helpful to visualize/correlate what your demostrating and what the results should look like when we emulate your swings. As always, you're amazing and love your explanations. No one is as descriptive in their instruction and I find it awesome when attempting to process what you're teaching.
Thanks, John! I agree----we have not found an easy way to do that yet thats not incredibly time consuming relative to the amount of videos we do. Will see what we can do!
Any advice for a guy that has a traditional back swing, gets the shoulder down, but is hitting push fades and ocassionally pull cuts to counter it. Its almost like I have forgotten how and when to release because of this correct move. Almost like a handle drag and I often feel my right hand is pointing to the sky. I try to "feel" it turn over but it causes a pull slice or a straight pull. Any thoughts? Has to be the release I imagine.
Hey there! Hard to say without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much. Send us your swings at www.cogornogolf.com so we can do a full analysis and build you a custom practice plan👊 Hope to see you there!
It may be of some help to focus on pushing off the ground w/ your left foot extending the left hip/knee connection to fully straight position to start the down swing. As long as you have the proper apx 22 degree left foot flare and correct posture at setup this action will cause you to rotate automatically and will cause your left shoulder to raise a bit while dropping your right shoulder considerably creating the Ben Hogan described "magic elbow". Its a key thought I used to gain a consistent way to make the desire action described in this video happen.
Thank you, John! Driver vs irons differences here…same general idea but setup different and head a bit more back in downswing ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
Great information but now I have another question. How do I keep the right wrist and arm bent going through the swing? I have a tendency of the right wrist to take over and try to unbend.
Hey Jerry! I would need to see your swing on video to say for sure but if you aren't able to fix I would do this: ua-cam.com/video/MchWG9IYBQw/v-deo.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGtlZXAgcmlnaHQgYXJtIGFuZCByaWdodCB3cmlzdCBiZW50 ua-cam.com/video/EtGRf3FSY34/v-deo.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGtlZXAgcmlnaHQgYXJtIGFuZCByaWdodCB3cmlzdCBiZW50
love your videos - is this the same as covering the ball? I was shown more of a bowing feel for covering but the club across the chest here feels like it really made a difference to my body position at impact
3:16 Aaaaaagh....it's shoulder, shoudler! And yes, I hate myself for being that guy who points this shit out. I wish I had a life too. 😀😀 Seriously though, good tip. I love the work you and Tom do together. You are very good at the technical stuff, and Tom is my "feel" guy.
Good vid. Why wouldn’t you start the setup with right arm bent more into your side and shaft lean forward at address? Instead of having to think about the position in downswing?
Thanks Steve! Having the trail arm externally rotated and bent 5-15° or so + having the shaft leaning forward a little bit are great pieces to have in at the setup position👍 You may enjoy this video for more details! ua-cam.com/video/-Djf75oT7-U/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Thank you! It frosts my flakes to see fathers teaching kids on the practice tee and hearing, “You’re dipping your shoulder!” as the cause for the kids’ inevitable fat shots. The kid keeps his or her trail shoulder high and what happens? They hit the ball even fatter - if at all. It’s little wonder so many children give up on golf.
Driver vs irons differences here.....same general idea but setup different and head a bit more back in downswing ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
Driver vs irons differences here.....same general idea but setup different and head a bit more back in downswing ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
When you present videos alone , the information is usually very good . When you invite other pros to teach their ideas , the information ranges from marginal to bad with a few exceptions . This video is another video with very good information . I have one suggestion on how to achieve your desired results . Because keeping the right wrist in extension at impact is important in keeping the right arm bent and the right shoulder down( as you pointed out), and because there are devices such as the Hackmotion wrist sensor , Cluckit and others which can monitor and give immediate feedback on the right wrist , it might be better to emphasize the right wrist extension rather than the right shoulder.
Thanks for the feedback Dave! I've given lessons for the past 14-15 years probably 20,000 lessons and I can say confidently neither is correct or better than the other. some players use right wrist extension cue and that leads to trail arm bend and shoulder down. Others it does not. Others need to get the shoulder down in the first place to be able to keep the wrist bent. Neither is more favorable....I've tried both hundreds of hundreds of times. Best
I was at the range yesterday and my ball flight was quite low for hitting a 9 iron. I see better players hitting their 9 higher and longer. I assume I'm compressing, though lacking speed. Does this move help with distance and speed?
Hey Keith! It could Lack of height I would look at 1. Lack of speed. More speed =more height. Pros swing their 9 iron probably close to 90mph...see where you are at. If you are 75 you won't be as high. 2. Dynamic loft 3. Strike point. Too low on face=lower
@@CogornoGolf yeah speed absolutely an issue, last time i was on TrackMan it was only around 70mph 😭 tbh I think solid contact first before worrying about adding speed
Hey Dante! Hard to say 100% without seeing your swing on video but check these videos out below, I think they'll help! ua-cam.com/video/A_cgbstbMKU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/wBgHjqFYIbg/v-deo.html
Having 1 thing to focus on during the swing is tough enough...yet worrying about the wrist bend too? Impossible. Especially in a matter of a mili second.
Why not simply set up to your impact position first up. There seems no advantage in having an "address" position that is never again used in the real swing?
Hey Ed! Hard for most from that impact position at setup to get to a full backswing turn/depth. I would say that's the main argument there. So if you can't get full backswing you are likely to swing too far over the top and lose considerable power.
Thanks for your perspective, Phil! Agreed to disagree. I've given 20,000 lessons at this point I bet and have used this cue successfully many many times. Right shoulder down can MAKE the lead side of pelvis and leg work back. Work both ways
@@CogornoGolf I see your point, it what ever works for the individual... Every one learns differently... I understand it has same result... I just feel by using legs I get more power from that position.
Started golfing twenty years ago I’m 84 now. You just provided the missing link. My swing and ball striking has improved immensely. It’s a natural and easy move. You just need to know it’s required. Many thanks.
Love to hear that Barry!
Congrats on finding your swing, a really great feeling.
Great content Eric! this move actually ties in with early extension. By rotating the right shoulder down through impact keeping that side bend, the butt has to stay back to keep the correct balance in the swing.
This is the drill that helped to fix my early extension.
Love it! Thanks for watching!
An essential piece to a good golf swing and often what is missing for those who aren't consistent ball strikers. What I have found is the left hip has to be firing back and out of the way to get the right shoulder down and chest open at impact. Sync these moves up and you are striping them.
100%
Thanks. I have been trying to get my right shoulder through my golf swing and this is the best instruction I've seen!
Love to hear that Tony! Appreciate you watching the channel!
What fantastic detail. And explained brilliantly, so easy to follow. Fixed my issue which was dropping the right shoulder, but I was falling back. Copied what you demonstrated. Done it soft shots at start. Back to striking the ball perfect. Thanks
Love it Jim! Thanks for watching!
As usual, Eric has a drill that explains a solution to a problem I'm trying to overcome. Love the content.
Thanks Joey!!
this guy is really awesome he really makes clear explanations.
Thank you, Gerald! Appreciate you watching!
This is one of your best vids. Right shoulder down and forward improves tilt, wrist angles, weight shift and helps square the club face
👊Thanks so much Steve!
Great job Eric! Finally, a great explanation on the "right shoulder down" sequence in the golf swing! I've been trying to accomplish this move to improve my shot making.
Thank you, John!!
Very good coaching that corrected my previous problem
Thanks, Peggy!
That's great Eric. You're swing is looking really solid.
Thanks Roger!!
Good explanation on a topic I've been having some difficulties with. Will definitely try it out next time I hit some balls.
Thank you, John! Hope it serves you well!
Great explanation Eric, thanks for the video and help!!!! Take care, Harald
Our pleasure, Harald! Thank you!
Great explanation and drill for proper feel!
Thanks Coach!
Superb instruction, Eric.
Thank you!
Wow ! I just took this lesson to the range and what a game changer !!! Thanks Eric 🤙🏻just what I needed
Great to hear! Our pleasure!
Thank-you for the detailed explanation..hoping to hit the ball better
Hope it helps!
Nice lesson thank you Eric
Thanks for watching!👊
Once again fantastic stuff Eric!
Thank you! Appreciate it!
Great video
Thanks Bryan!
Great job
Thanks Paul!
Brilliant video! Something is simple that works 👍🏻
Thank you, Joe!
excellent video; i've been struggling with this specifically!
Hope it helps, Terry! Thank you!
Again, another excellent video
Thanks Jack!
Excellent, thanks Eric. Right shoulder down from side bend and forward as a result of rotation?
Thank you! Thanks right!!
Great video Eric has helped me a ton lately this!
Just out of curiosity are you near woodstone golf club Allentown area?
Thanks James! Happy to hear it!
I'll be teaching at Bethlehem
Golf Club this summer👊
I like the right shoulder as a downswing thought, and I find restricting the right side bend as long as possible helps the transition while keeping the right shoulder from moving down too quickly.
Its a big move
Yet another outstanding piece of instruction, Mr Cogorno!
I almost get the feeling the club 'kicks out' a tad and really comes down the 'rails' and is squaring all the time. The strike and sound is real pleasing...
William
Some very good points will have to do the club check.
Thanks! Hope it helps!
매우 중요하고 뒤땅 거리 방향성을 해결되는 레슨입니다
감사합니다
Hope this one serves you well!
Thank you for sharing
You got it!
Great stuff, Thank you !!
Thanks, Jeff! Our pleasure!
Very good video. 2 things that would help would be 1) a head on slow motion video of the right arm and wrist at impact, and 2) how this relates to hitting driver, where the intent is to hit up on the ball.
Thanks for the feedback, Jim! Will see if we can do that for another video
Hi Eric. MUST this right shoulder move (DOWN and FORWARD) come AFTERbottom hal weight shift or simultaneously. Thank you for your passion and dedication to all of us
Hey Richard! it will likely FEEL like its at the same time
Great video. I'm 74 and still trying to play. I couldn't help but notice that another factor in getting the shoulder forward is transferring the weight/pressure to the left side. In addition the radius is shortened by the opening of the hips/core both features of which are visible in watching the video closely with regard to your hips and the weight transfer to your left foot with the inside of your left foot off the ground as you make this move. Your videos are incredible in both quality and content. It's a little frustrating to hear that crisp, clean contact you make with every shot. LOL!
Thanks for the support Jack! Great to have you here with us!!
Imagine striking the ball with your right shoulder is what I got from this. Good advice.
Hope this one serves you well!
Eric - I don't know if you can do it, but it would be great to see a tracer on your shots so we can see the ball flight/draw. It won't make a difference in terms of the info you're giving us. But it will be helpful to visualize/correlate what your demostrating and what the results should look like when we emulate your swings. As always, you're amazing and love your explanations. No one is as descriptive in their instruction and I find it awesome when attempting to process what you're teaching.
Thanks, John! I agree----we have not found an easy way to do that yet thats not incredibly time consuming relative to the amount of videos we do. Will see what we can do!
Any advice for a guy that has a traditional back swing, gets the shoulder down, but is hitting push fades and ocassionally pull cuts to counter it. Its almost like I have forgotten how and when to release because of this correct move. Almost like a handle drag and I often feel my right hand is pointing to the sky. I try to "feel" it turn over but it causes a pull slice or a straight pull. Any thoughts? Has to be the release I imagine.
Hey there!
Hard to say without seeing your swing on video, we'd simply be guessing too much. Send us your swings at www.cogornogolf.com so we can do a full analysis and build you a custom practice plan👊
Hope to see you there!
Gold Obi Wan, Gold! Thank you buddy!
:) Thank you! Our pleasure!
Eric I see you are using an iron in the video. Would this also work for a hybrid club and fairway woods? Thanks.
Yes!
It may be of some help to focus on pushing off the ground w/ your left foot extending the left hip/knee connection to fully straight position to start the down swing. As long as you have the proper apx 22 degree left foot flare and correct posture at setup this action will cause you to rotate automatically and will cause your left shoulder to raise a bit while dropping your right shoulder considerably creating the Ben Hogan described "magic elbow". Its a key thought I used to gain a consistent way to make the desire action described in this video happen.
Appreciate you being here with us! Thanks for watching!
Eric, i love this! What are your thoughts on how this applies to driver?
Thank you, John!
Driver vs irons differences here…same
general idea but setup different and head a bit more back in downswing
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
Great information but now I have another question. How do I keep the right wrist and arm bent going through the swing? I have a tendency of the right wrist to take over and try to unbend.
Hey Jerry!
I would need to see your swing on video to say for sure but if you aren't able to fix I would do this:
ua-cam.com/video/MchWG9IYBQw/v-deo.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGtlZXAgcmlnaHQgYXJtIGFuZCByaWdodCB3cmlzdCBiZW50
ua-cam.com/video/EtGRf3FSY34/v-deo.html&pp=ygUwRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGtlZXAgcmlnaHQgYXJtIGFuZCByaWdodCB3cmlzdCBiZW50
I’m from NZ when is grant coming home to help me
love your videos - is this the same as covering the ball? I was shown more of a bowing feel for covering but the club across the chest here feels like it really made a difference to my body position at impact
Yes!
All the same ideas
ua-cam.com/video/ZJ2Wee-3ESc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/31Vc5NABBdM/v-deo.html
Cogorno for president 2024
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The benefit I saw in keeping the trail shoulder low and rotating was stopping my tendency to hit the ball off the toe of the club.
👊Glad this one helped, Dan!
3:16 Aaaaaagh....it's shoulder, shoudler! And yes, I hate myself for being that guy who points this shit out. I wish I had a life too. 😀😀
Seriously though, good tip.
I love the work you and Tom do together. You are very good at the technical stuff, and Tom is my "feel" guy.
:) Thank you!! Appreciate your support!
Good vid. Why wouldn’t you start the setup with right arm bent more into your side and shaft lean forward at address? Instead of having to think about the position in downswing?
Thanks Steve!
Having the trail arm externally rotated and bent 5-15° or so + having the shaft leaning forward a little bit are great pieces to have in at the setup position👍
You may enjoy this video for more details!
ua-cam.com/video/-Djf75oT7-U/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Thank you!
It frosts my flakes to see fathers teaching kids on the practice tee and hearing, “You’re dipping your shoulder!” as the cause for the kids’ inevitable fat shots.
The kid keeps his or her trail shoulder high and what happens? They hit the ball even fatter - if at all.
It’s little wonder so many children give up on golf.
Tough game John :)
Brilliant
Appreciate it!
same with driver?
Driver vs irons differences here.....same general idea but setup different and head a bit more back in downswing
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
@@CogornoGolf so kind thanks bro
This is essential for those of us who are stuck and too inside out, correct?
Its PART of it, yes....right shoulder forward
Is this the same with the driver?
Driver vs irons differences here.....same general idea but setup different and head a bit more back in downswing
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html
When you present videos alone , the information is usually very good . When you invite other pros to teach their ideas , the information ranges from marginal to bad with a few exceptions .
This video is another video with very good information .
I have one suggestion on how to achieve your desired results . Because keeping the right wrist in extension at impact is important in keeping the right arm bent and the right shoulder down( as you pointed out), and because there are devices such as the Hackmotion wrist sensor , Cluckit and others which can monitor and give immediate feedback on the right wrist , it might be better to emphasize the right wrist extension rather than the right shoulder.
Thanks for the feedback Dave!
I've given lessons for the past 14-15 years probably 20,000 lessons and I can say confidently neither is correct or better than the other.
some players use right wrist extension cue and that leads to trail arm bend and shoulder down.
Others it does not.
Others need to get the shoulder down in the first place to be able to keep the wrist bent.
Neither is more favorable....I've tried both hundreds of hundreds of times.
Best
when i try this i push my irons and as a fader of the ball difficult as you say this moves gets the club in a more shallow attack
Should be an easy fix---just would need to see your swing to say for sure.
Send swings to www.cogornogolf.com and we can fix
@@CogornoGolf thanks for offer but cant afford it
I was at the range yesterday and my ball flight was quite low for hitting a 9 iron. I see better players hitting their 9 higher and longer. I assume I'm compressing, though lacking speed. Does this move help with distance and speed?
Hey Keith!
It could
Lack of height I would look at
1. Lack of speed. More speed =more height. Pros swing their 9 iron probably close to 90mph...see where you are at. If you are 75 you won't be as high.
2. Dynamic loft
3. Strike point. Too low on face=lower
@@CogornoGolf yeah speed absolutely an issue, last time i was on TrackMan it was only around 70mph 😭 tbh I think solid contact first before worrying about adding speed
More on driver please Eric
Thanks for the feedback, Rachel! will keep that in mind!
Great
Thanks Djelal!
Tried this and was slicing everything any tips on potentially what is going wrong
Hey Dante!
Hard to say 100% without seeing your swing on video but check these videos out below, I think they'll help!
ua-cam.com/video/A_cgbstbMKU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/wBgHjqFYIbg/v-deo.html
Grant Waite’s swing is my favorite to look at terms of what I think the swing should be.
100%!
Sam Snead said to bring your right shoulder to the ball. When I’m struggling, that is what I think of.
Love it, Jason!
Turning the right shoulder down automatically turns the hips
Yes
Having 1 thing to focus on during the swing is tough enough...yet worrying about the wrist bend too? Impossible. Especially in a matter of a mili second.
The key is starting short and slow and building your way up (and use video feedback). Hope this helps!
Why not simply set up to your impact position first up. There seems no advantage in having an "address" position that is never again used in the real swing?
Hey Ed! Hard for most from that impact position at setup to get to a full backswing turn/depth. I would say that's the main argument there.
So if you can't get full backswing you are likely to swing too far over the top and lose considerable power.
This is an affect of pulling your front foot and leg backwards in your downSwing... People should never do this purposely.
Thanks for your perspective, Phil! Agreed to disagree. I've given 20,000 lessons at this point I bet and have used this cue successfully many many times. Right shoulder down can MAKE the lead side of pelvis and leg work back. Work both ways
@@CogornoGolf I see your point, it what ever works for the individual... Every one learns differently... I understand it has same result... I just feel by using legs I get more power from that position.
For sure. We just cant make the mistake in thinking that OUR feels are universal.
Roger not you’re your
Have a great day!