You know it's bad when the grown man calling 911 is crying but the child isn't..He did an amazing job keeping that poor boy calm..God bless all the innocent people involved in this tragic case
Him saying the little boy said it was his own fault broke my heart no child should think being tied up and starved is their own fault I can not imagine the mental and physical abuse these kids have been through God be with them.
I know it's been said before, but the way that 911 caller questioned RF while on the phone was really nice under such pressure. He didnt want to use words that would trigger him or scare him before law enforcement and medical care arrived so he would be ready to cooperate and take help. The caller handled it sooooo well. So glad he and the rest of his household were around to give RF the help he needed.
I cried when the Emergency medical team arrived and said the open wounds on the boy's wrists and ankles caused by the rope and duct tape were smelling really bad, due to severe infection. It's absolutely heartbreaking how much these poor young children suffered, both physically and mentally. Please god help them to heal and thrive, and may they now always be surrounded with love and happiness.💕💕
Only to put handcuffs on a child is a horrible act, but it's insane to treat wounds with homeopathy, cover them with duct tape (WTF?) and put the handcuffs again on top... These women are dangerous and crazy.
Agreed everything in news about LDS it’s all cult and no one cares stop needs to be made to this and people ask why I am prejudice against Christian people and religion that’s cause they are the worst ones but I’m not saying all them are like that just the ones who are exactly like that it’s sad but it’s people like LDS that got me that way And what makes me so mad is that those who want kids can’t have them would do anything for them and those who do got them treat them like animals and call themselves moms and dads so disgusting makes me sick and to make it worse protective services don’t do anything about it but pull kids out of the homes that don’t deserve to be removed
I’m a diabetic type two, I have a wound on my right ankle it’s an open wound so far it’s been six months and it is very slowly healing… And that is with great medical care from nurses and doctors and a hospital that does wound care in my area. These children have a long way to go before these physical wounds heal. Their mental wounds may never heal. I asked myself where was God during all of this! But I say that every time there’s some sad story in the news.
I cannot applaud Jodi's niece enough for speaking out against her. All of this is so horrific! I hope those children are able to receive the mental health help they are going to need. My heart goes out to them all. 💔
I agree with you on the kids gaining therapist but It’s good that she speaks up publicly. She’s a victim and I wanna see more of people on the same situation like her to speak up and not scared by the truth. Abuser will continue to abuse if no one call them out. But yes the niece needs therapy
Well as I’ve listened multiple times to the methods of torture being used on all of these children when the YT channel was at it’s peak until the moment that little boy escaped, are some of the exact same methods of torture that another abusive mother Shanda Vander Arke used that killed her 15 yr old autistic son. She was convicted of 1st degree child abuse and murder by starvation and more. Guaranteed she watched Franke’s demented YT channel.
Ruby does not get a pass because she was "misled" by Hildebrandt. The 1st time anyone ordered me to isolate my child, tie him up to weights and chains, with-hold food, sleep, clean clothes, family contact would have been the last. They should both rot in jail.
In one of the “8 Passengers” video clips, Ruby tells one of the girls that she will lose “the privilege of eating….” - …PRIVILEDGE OF EATING” a biological requirement to sustain LIFE is a “priviledge.” 🤦🏼♀️😡🤦🏼♀️😡🤦🏼♀️😡🤦🏼♀️😡
But they are influencers...they influence people to follower then on screen and in behavior, the influence other evil people like them (specificly her) to I fluency others to follower in their deviant behavior. Then there are the positive ones.🤷♀️
In-Fluence in a hypnotic state, to influence, this technology is being used to influence the minds of the young, so when they call these people "influencers" they are telling you what they are doing, they are putting people under a hypnotic state, young children, are let to have free reign on the tablets, phones, they are looking through tic-tok, and youtube and are being exposed to so much information, mostly harmful.# Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock! The children now have the world in their homes, in their bedrooms, knowledge of all things good and evil at the slide of a finger on a screen. Images and clips that ought never be in a child's mind, the cartoons they watch are full of sexual innuendos and subliminal messages. And now children are being influenced by people who are mentally ill, emotionally damaged, traumatised individuals who are "out of their right minds" who have not dealt with their inner pain and suffering, who are; as you rightly said being fed by all the attention they receive, energy, and will go to extremes to gain more adoration to fill their inner empty dark void. And its the children and young adults, who they target, and the adults around them who are also lost in their own trauma are oblivious to all the dangers, due to their own addiction to social media, so the technological Trojan horse has infiltrated the homes, peoples minds hearts and souls, and until we wake up from the slumber and hypnotic state we were put into over the centuries, and reconnect with ourselves and our children, these narcissistic wolves in sheep's clothing will continue their in-fluence the children and the youth of today, and we see how that turns out don't we.
Every occupation attracts narcissists in every area of life .. nothing can be blamed outside of them , just like any other personality disorder It comes from within A distortion of perception, it’s got nothing to do with being an influencer , actor politician or priest or anything else… just as all good comes from within so the bad
@@LiveFreeOrDie2Adon’t be a dunce, Jessie themself referred to themself as a niece. This is just your transphobia shinning through. It costs you NOTHING to just be kind and respectful
No mention of Kevin Franke's role in this. He allowed the kids to be maltreated for years before Jodi drove them apart. He supported sending his son to that horrid camp, he was there when bedrooms and beds were taken away, he's on film backing Ruby up punishing the kids. He should not be allowed near any of those children. Right now, he is seeing dollar signs and that is his only interest in gaining custody.
Right, Like everyone in this Family,they all knew about the abuse Put we're only selfserving exploit their children daily so the can make millions on UA-cam Bonnie Hollein, Ellie and Jared, Deru Crew, Grandma and grandpa Griffith, and their mormon UA-camr friends Binghams, April and Davey, Leroys, Shumways, Jordan Page, Chatwins,and many more
He was also there when Ruby and Kevin took Christmas away from the two youngest children and then made them watch the other kids open their presents. Horrifying.
yep I thought the same...... I think the news is treading lightly with Kevin as nothing has formally been charged against him, but he hasn't been given custody back either. He claims he was "forced" not to be able to see his children, but he could have filed for divorce and fought for custody..... He didn't even try....
The church, the UTAH state board that kept Jody’s license without investigating previous complaints.. all them need to be investigated and hold accountable for their negligence!
It is very likely that the so called training of Jodi and Ruby was done by a bullshit for profit school..... with no REAL accreditation. Two sicko con people... all in the name of a "religion".
Jessi can be so proud. Despite Jodi's violence, mistreatment, and horrific gaslighting, Jessi is well spoken, articulate, intelligent and personable, and deserves all the best in life.
!00% agree, I could see her holding back tears whilst speaking so eloquently about her own ordeal, I hope she also finds justice for what that evil women done to her. So she can have some closure, and heal that part of her that needs it, she is a inspiration to others who have been affected by the actions of the narcissistic individuals roaming the earth.
The fact that Jesse’s police report was ignored is terrible. Their story could have saved years of torture for these poor kids and angst for other people affected by Jodi’s twisted ideas of “truth”. I’m glad they decided to speak out to corroborate the kids’ stories.
Yes! I cried bad as this man realized the hell the boy came from! I saw the wounds on news nation and they are unbelievable !! I was so shocked I could not breathe!!! Whattttttt??? 😢😢😢 Was my reaction! Those poor kids! I wanted to reach into my TV and hug 🤗 that little scared girl in the closet!!! OMG 😱 she was mentally broken. So many people would have loved that little girl so much! These sick narcissist mentalcase parents who never should have had any kids were raised by horrible abusive parents and is why they did this! Taking out hate on the kids! That Jodi came from a really bad sex abuse childhood and was cutting her arms up! Sickos!
That dear man didn’t even want to speak the words to the poor boy. If you watch his security video, he turns his back to the boy as he breaks down on the phone. His emotion makes me cry. ❤
This case does not equate to the church level. That argument is a lot like an idiot doing something outrageous by a gun owner being used to judge all gun owners. This was an an extreme case that definitely needs to be fully prosecuted.
@jamesgentry13 Not all churches. I belong to an Open and Affirming UCC community that doesn't ask me to leave my brains at the door. We're also part of the Progressive churches, where questions are welcome. Please, don't lump all of them together.
Let’s be clear. Jodi did not change Ruby. She did not influence her. Ruby was a child abuser before Jodi. Jodi’s philosophies aligned with Ruby and that is why she was connected to her. They aligned and supported each other in their evil.
That’s the one issue I had with what Jessi was saying. I get that she has anger towards her Aunt for what she did to her, but she was suggesting that Jodi was the mastermind in all of this and was kind of suggesting that Ruby was influenced by Jodi and her beliefs and that’s where I disagree! It’s as you said, they both came together and realized that they BOTH had similar viewpoints and a connection was made! Ruby was already doing some of these things, perhaps on a smaller level, but still harmful to her children, before she ever started following Jodi! So, to me, this is on both of them and actually, I would lean more towards blaming Ruby because they are HER own children….she gave birth to them!
@@Ms2unique4u 100%!!! I couldn’t agree more. Ruby had a responsibility to protect her children. Disgusting human. It also eliminates any sympathy I have for ruby’s husband as well. He too participated in the tactics that Ruby used on their children before Jodi. While he may not be responsible for the horrific events he is responsible for either participating in or not protecting his children from Ruby when he was in the home. And….. who the heck walks away from their children and has zero clue what is happening to them. The father of my children would walk barefoot over glass to see his children. All so very sad, for the children.
@2rational4u Ruby is not impressionable. Ruby was doing harsh punishment long before Jody. Lol. Even her sisters have said that she has always been a bully.
That gentleman that make the call is a hero he tried to make it less traumatic, his caution and empathy is admirable and inspirational for other men to be naturally protective and empathetic.
As a counseling therapist this makes my skin crawl! Jesse is absolutely correct when she's saying that clients are vulnerable when they seek counseling and it's the therapists legal and ethical responsibility to not abuse that!
I'm in therapy for child sexual abuse from decades ago, as never reported it, but unfortunately it messed up my childhood and some of my adulthood, what these children have gone through I truly hope they are surrounded by people who genuinely care about them
@@cassieo4337 The victim dad, he wasn't charged, was he? Why do you think that is? He was under her control, too. I'm sure if the genders were reversed, you'd be looking at him as a victim, more than an enabler or co-abuser.
As the father, someone who is supposed to protect his kids - he needs to be held accountable too. Just because he wasn’t with the mom anymore doesn’t mean he can’t have contact with his kids - I would never agree to that
It sounds like Kevin was forced not to have contact with his kids. Whether he was involved in the abuse, that’s another thing. What about this other woman that was part of connexions?
I agree that Kevin is equally responsible but I don’t think the prosecutors didn’t have any evidence of anything that would stick. It might be an issues in family court.
Yeah, I worry that Kevin having the kids will work against them healing even if he's passive aggressive, covert, or simply his presence given the Franke's abuse of their kids before Jodi.
It needs to be MANDATORY for anyone wanting to become a psychologist/therapist to undergo serious and in depth therapy themselves before interacting with patients
They're supposed to, but her agency was so strongly supported by the church that the usual peer review that would take place in a reputable agency could be forgone.
I was abused physically mentally and emotionally when i was a child by my step mother. My father was a severe alcoholic and let it happen and even participated at times. The school would even question me and my brother sometimes about bruises on us but bothing ever came of it. This was back in the mid 70's. We lived in a hoarder house and it was chaos most days. I really feel for these chilren. I never got any counceling or therapy as an adult and believe me the abuse i experienced as a child has had its effects on me as an adult. But when i became a mother i decided to be the one to break the cycle of abuse. I could never treat my child the way i was treated as a child. And hes 19 years old now and i am so proud of the adult hes growing up to be!
If you watch his police interview he states he "was invited to leave because he was addicted to porn" I wonder where I keep hearing that phrase over and over again throughout this cult like circle
@@scottl.1568it was only to keep the children from foster care. The dad is a victim too, he was conned to leave the house, he was also accused of porn, and he was sent away to repent and get cured. He was convinced wanted to have sex with his wife was porn. He’s brainwashed and can not see past the gate keeping narcissists.
It's time to hold UA-cam accountable for perpetuating family channels as they're allowing known and reported abuse. Parents are getting rich off the exploitation of child labor without considering the long term mental health effects it can cause. It's time to end family channels, end cameras being shoved into childrens faces from the time they wake up to the time they go to sleep, having every and all aspects of their lives including personal and embarrassing moments on display for 8 billion people to criticize.
Imagine living your entire childhood in public, it’s so abusive. I guess we won’t reap the rewards until these kids are adults, but I imagine over the next couple of decades these grown kids will have issue.
UA-cam and TikTok also. How do they allow such young kids to be used and exploited for greed and perversion?! Why do we not have legislation being written and introduced that makes it punitive to use children online?! They can’t consent and they certainly can’t understand the risk and gravity of their personhood being accessible to the world. I think one day there will be stricter laws around this subject and society will look back at this time in shock and disgust that it was not only allowed but richly awarded. Our country as a whole needs to do more to protect our most innocent. Homeschoolers need a better check and balance system also, it’s a massive loophole for abuse to perpetuate. We could do so much more than we are doing to protect the welfare of children. Religion needs to be regulated also, something to mitigate or investigate this children at the center of these extremists.
I love how Ruby is so invested in natural consequences of behaviour so may she enjoy a life in jail along with that other vile excuse for a human being Jodi
Okay, if we didn't think Mormonism is a cult before... The Church of Latter Day Saints endorsed and recommended Jody as a marriage and mental health counselor for decades. The church bears some responsibility for all of those marriages and lives destroyed.
The Church "family services" is merely a group of licensed counselors who are members of the Church. They are not vetted by the Church or "endorsed" by the Church specifically. Sometimes, members of my faith prefer to have a counselor who is also a member of the Church because other Christian religions have very different interpretations of the scriptures that we do and often do not care to understand us (or worse, treat us with hatred or scorn, most especially if they happen to be Evangelicals or Southern Baptists). To be 100% honest, I've heard far more Evangelicals using "spare the rod, spoil the child" from the Bible to justify child abuse than I have heard any scripture unique to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints being used to justify child abuse. I can't actually think of one scripture unique to our faith that promotes child abuse in any way, and I can think of more than one that condemns it openly (most notably D&C 121:39-46). So, if there IS a cult at work here, it's the broader Christian community, especially Evangelical "fire and brimstone" ideology. That said, unfortunately, Evangelical ideas seems to be seeping more and more into Utah "Church" culture, probably through Republican connections, since such nonsense is prevalent in that group. In other areas where members of the Church are not so influenced by negative political ties, you see far less of the Evangelical ridiculousness and cult-like mentality.
All religion is a cult. Every single one. Look up the criteria’s of what makes a cult. And then look at religion. ….. there’s no coincidence in the fact that every cult leader has claimed that they have spoken to God, our God, or something along those lines. It’s not a coincidence.
What makes me so mad, was this was so preventable. We made so many complaints to local authorities, not just DCFS but police. They KNEW. They never cared to look into these kids further and let Ruby isolate them at Jodi’s compound of torture.
I STILL worry about those kids given that DCFS was so negligent for years! Who’s checking up on DCFS to make sure they are doing THEIR job in protecting these kids now? I just keep thinking of that family of like 10 kids who were isolated, taken out of school and horribly abused and neglected. They ended up getting g further abused in foster care, even after being removed from the parents custody and being such a high visibility case. I worry something like that could happen to the Franke kids too. 😢. Hopefully DCFS is now doing their job!
Over 80% of governmental offices are held by members of the LDS church-the same church that supported Hildebrandt for decades. Jodi isn’t the only “therapist”, Connexctions isn’t the only “program” being supported, funded & championed by the LDS church. Nothing will change until the Theocracy is dismantled. Which will be a very difficult & lengthy process. Sigh.
@@caseyjude5472It's not a theocracy.Joseph Smith was following teaching from an "angel".(Fallen angels are called demons).LDS is a cult.We are supposed to promote the Bible and God's will,in Jesus name,not follow"angels".
Why exactly? I’m a member and have never been taught to do these things to my kids. Evil people can spring up in all parts of society, part of the reason is, as Christian’s, we’re taught to accepting of everyone. This lady has been taking advantage of people for years, a few misguided leaders that thought she was helping people, she wasn’t, does not mean the whole church is accountable for a nut that was preaching concepts, I have never seen in any manuals from the church.
@@jaimeranke3483 i am also a member. what these people did is so evil and i cant even express how sad it is. There is bad people in every religion, this is not what the church doctrine is about.
The church does share some blame here. These woman, Lori Daybell, Tim Ballard and many others attending the crazy conferences all focus on the book Visions of Glory written by a person who still has the trust of the church and they use for missionary mental health advice. The church knows how to shut this crazy cult behavior down and has done nothing. These people believe this equates to tacit approval of these doomsday not jobs and their underground cult behavior. There is a deeper story here that connects all these crazies to an underground book members are reading. Thom Harrison needs to be exposed for what he is and the church needs to either stop it or be honest about embracing it.
I hope that Kevin will be held accountable, too. Those kids had two parents and not one advocate. No protector. He could have been that for them and he should have been that for them.
Where was he ? What about visitation. He failed these children in his home and during the separation. He doesn't deserve custody of the children. How can they ever heal.
Kevin may not had engaged with the abuse at Jodie's home. But there is evidence that he approved of the mental and emotional abuse with Ruby in the videos made together. They were abusive before Jodie.
I don't care if they were estranged, and I don't care about parental alimentation claims either. Parental alienation is a real thing, and it does cause many parents, mostly fathers, to become estranged from their children. But parents still fight for their kids. They go to court to try and see them. Kevin did nothing. For 13 whole months. That does not absolve him from guilt. The kids weren't being bound and tortured when he was in the home, but they were still being abused. And he was okay with it. I hope that he is not granted custody of any of those children.
Poor kid, look at the ugly tattoos, the ugly piercings, she's a wreck and not just because of the abuse she suffered from her mom and Jodi, but from the media's propaganda- influence.
I don't trust therapists who believe in sin. This is so evil. This happened to my family. A counselor tore my family apart and moved in with my mom. He convinced everyone I was an addict even though I was 12 and never tried drugs. I was sent to an adult treatment center. He told you step-father I said he molested me, which was a total lie. Those relationships were never repaired. Sick!
This has nothing to do with sin or righteousness. It's about control and delusion. Teaching a child about sin has nothing to do with abuse. The abuse itself is a sin. Not to mention that their version of sin comes from a false church. It is a cult.
😢😳 I am so heartbroken reading what your family went through. Lives were destroyed beyond repair and no one was held accountable. I’m so so sorry that happened to your family. I hope as individuals you continue to heal as much as possible.
@@deniseadkins2901I’m an ex-Mormon, and I agree with you that it is a cult. Joseph Smith was a known con artist, in fact. My “church” experience was horrible. When I left, they stalked me, leaving “God bomb” sticky notes on my car wherever I went. There’s so much more, but I’m too tired to type it right now. 😞 Point is, they made it hard to leave. Eventually, I left town.
My brother went to a military psychiatrist, (who was not religious,) because he was bummed out about a genetic eye problem he had. The psychiatrist rapidly destroyed his marriage and then his life, and he wound up dead only 3 months after starting his "treatment". Long before that, I was listening to the radio and a couple of disc jockeys were joking around about a new study by some psychologists who claimed that having affairs was the best way to help a marriage. Those are only two examples, but the point is that while some therapists might hide behind religion, there's clearly tons of horrible advice in the mental health community. I remember a point where mental health experts were insisting that sugar has no effect on kids. The list goes on and on. They call themselves experts, but it's best to question everything they say.
my grandfather was an elder in the LDS. I was born into generational abuse. I was severely abused before I could even walk or talk. my grandfather used God as his excuse for the abuse which came in all forms. My grandfather had some very warped views on God women and children. my mother also abused me and later started to sell me. I was sold for the first time at 6 yrs old. I was 7 the first time I was used in CSAM(child abuse materials) I now work against child abuse and trafficking. children deserve better! these children are lucky to be alive.
I think our society should put more resources into children's rights (legally) and uncovering these rings of abuse. Children have rights and need more!!!
This story is ringing loudly and clearly as we try to breathe through the evidence that has been released. Jesse told us what was coming. I adore their honesty and the courage they demonstrated in telling their story. I hope Jesse is healing as the children of Ruby begin their journey back to health. Their captors are imprisoned now…hopefully, they will never do more harm.
Thank you KUTV for your reporting on the Franke fam and JH . I feel Kevin Franke is not an innocent bystander and therefore should also be held accountable for this terrible situation.
There’s a theme with Jody. She accuses every adult and every child (even 3 year olds) of sexual sins... masturbation, pornography, incest. She also teaches that all mental illness and personality tiks come from ‘deep seeded shame’. This tells us that this is her story. She is superimposing her past on every patient, client/children of clients. Wether this happened to her or she did to others, idk, but it happened.
I agree. These religious zealots that think everyone have deep dark hidden depravities are always projecting their thoughts onto others. Whether it be about sexuality, or whatever. It's always a case of projection.
I would have thought shame was preferable to shamelessness, but then I’m not Mormon and years ago realized I’ll never be perfect…that’s why I need Jesus. He is all my righteousness.
I still don't understand why the husband is getting characterized as being squeaky clean and not involved at all. That just doesn't seem possible to me.
Would love to know there definition of “porn” something tells me that’s it’s not actually what we consider the word to be or the husband was watching it and it got blamed on the child. I don’t believe the 💩 they said about that child for 1 second.
And I agree. But I believe the investigation should include the Mormon Church and all the higher ups in that church that sent innocent people including children to this evil person for “counseling “. Where is there Mormon churches responsibility?
@@Nicki704 I agree, the Mormon corporation is complicit in this child torture scheme since they are notorious for demanding phone sex type masterbation details from children as young as seven years old, that's a crime. Mormon Bishops who engage in this kind of closed door inquisitions are criminals. The hundred year old corporation requires a humbling taxation in order to thwart further purposefully inflicted abuse onto vulnerable non-adults.
How? How would that even be possible? You can't blame a toddler for anything. If he did, which I don't believe, but _if_ he did watch corn at 3 years old, how? Who exposed him to it? How would he even know what to look for? It's the most ridiculous excuse for torturing your children I've ever heard.
This makes me suspicious it's a cover set up for abuse the boy has potential suffered in that respect or inappropriate things he may have been exposed to. Kids that little don't access or at least shouldn't have access to such things. Not sure how that happens. At any rate that obsessive accusations and blame is abusive. I hope the kids can heal and move on in their lives.
What an amazing job KKUTV has done covering this disturbing case, from its inception! This video was incredibly well done! Brian Schnee has done such an impressive investigation, and I appreciate his work keeping us updated on the terrible situation. Bravo! 👍👍
Brian Schnee has done a tremendous job and I'm sure his coverage will continue with this case as the sentencing is coming next month. I also think Jesse did an outstanding job relaying her experience. She is so well spoken and articulate. She should write a book on being a survivor of extreme abuse.
Don’t bring life into this world if you don’t plan on being morally good parents.The scary thing is these two women actually thought they had more morals than the rest of us.
What’s scary is they thought they were morally right, hundreds of thousands of people not only agreed with them but took their advice and the Mormon church recommended her to families despite knowing hildebrants past ab*se with her niece.
The man who called 911 sounded such a nice and kind-hearted man. I feel sorry that the kid felt it was his fault. It was not! I think the father should have checked on his kids more often, no matter what. No one looking at those wounds could have accepted this!
Jodi is so clearly the problem here. I honestly believe she targeted ruby because ruby had a huge following amd money and really brainwashed her! Obviously ruby was stupid and guilty of abuse but she is a victim too...
I'm sure you are a good person, but I am so done with the thoughts and prayers thing Let's just say that Adam did a good thing and applaud him, And wish him well in atheism.❤
@@ricardoflores8934 you're you and I'm me. If you didn't agree with me, you could have just scrolled by and not commented. Maybe you're not really done with the thoughts and prayers "thing". Try talking to Jesus sometime. He will never leave you.
@@lindsayb1329the ironic thing is that you feel the need to evangelize a stranger on the internet that is an admitted atheist. Not everyone believes in the same thing you believe in, and that’s okay. Christianity teaches tolerance and patience and acceptance yet you yourself demonstrate none of those things in your interactions with others.
I was a victim of childhood abuse and sought help from local law enforcement in 1976. I was not believed and was asked outright what I did for this to happen. It is very difficult to have a voice when the perpetrator has all the power.
My mother destroyed my credibility too. Starting at a VERY young age- i was horribly abused my my violent mentally unstable mother and my alcoholic father, i was a very angry child. I remember being so frustrated because i wasn't allowed to have a voice, beatings on a regular basis for all of us- i developeda stutter and would urinate all over myself when my father raised his voice to me which always ended pretty badly and my sister who could not even speak until she was 10 the doctor had told my parents it was because of trauma my mother would leave us and take off for weekends without even telling us to fend for ourselves. I remember being so frustrated all the time which led to relationship problems friendship problems and unable to identify with a normal healthy family and relationship between parents and children this took me years and years to work through with tons of therapy I still don't know what it's like to be able to have a conversation with a father figure because it is so foreign to me I don't know how it works. People say they feel bad but the truth is I never had it so I don't know what I missed I do know what it was supposed to be but I never lost it -because I never had it.. and my mother becoming angry and constantly hitting me every time she was upset she would be hitting me even if it had nothing to do with me she would start hitting me always whacking me around didn't matter who saw it followed with swearing and vicious insults in front of other people which always left me embarrassed an insecure. It goes a lot deeper than this but I don't want to feel triggered talking about this right now I watch this and amazement because I know these kids are going to have problems for the rest of their life the inability to relate to others even in a conversation is a lifelong problem because you never know if you're doing it right or wrong and you know people think there's something strange going on when they walk away. I hope these kids are able to heal someday but the chances are they probably will never recover 100%. If any of these kids are reading this You Are Not Alone there's millions of kids around the world that go through this violence and Pure Evil and we all understand what you've gone through and even though many of us still don't have a voice we are all praying for you in our heads in silence.
You never deserved these kind of parents. You are worthy, deserve to be loved, appreciated, protected and RESPECTED! The Virgen Mary is the only true MOTHER
Its was so difficult listening to the testimony of the niece, and infuriating knowing that Jodi will never be punished for the abuse she inflicted upon her niece.
I’ve heard that phone call so many times but it still gets me, when the man chokes up, he tries to find words like ‘detained’ to not scare that brave boy more than he’s already terrified
I’ve never made it to the very end, the neighbour says “he says it’s his fa*** (it’s not) The 911 lady says that’s sad to hear. Three total strangers showing them more love & comfort than his parents. I expect that lady was really touched by this too & likely she’d more than a few tears 😢
I’ll never forget the phone call that older gentleman made to 911 on that poor boy. The tears he held back: *I broke.* When the EMS worker began to cry: *I broke.* I believe the *entire world broke as well.* However, it was the *bruised* and *battered boy* who *hadn’t broke.* He *saved the day* & *started* the *healing process* for *his family,* for the *countless other victims,* for the *world* and *I pray,* for *himself.* I’ll always *believe him* to *be a hero.*
Ruby, Jodi and Kevin are all disgusting perpetrators of child abuse and neglect. Kevin should not have custody of those children as he did NOTHING to stop Rubys on-going abuse during and after the penency of thier marraige. How dare him sue for money under the guise of his children, when he never checked on them while this was happening. The money is for him. He is culpable and complicit with the abuse and neglect of his children.
Kevin, the father had nothing to do with abusing his kids. Ruby had him leave & I don’t know where he went, but I used to watch this family before that witch came into their lives. They had a normal loving family & a big beautiful extended family. Ruby is so brainwashed by that evil woman.
Jessi, thank you for sharing your story. I can only imagine how re-traumatizing it is to watch it happening to other kids and re-telking your story. We believe you.
It's astonishing that Jessie is able to reflect on all of this torment so clearly. Their comments and assesment of the abuse done to Jessie and to the other kids are so well considered. I wish them all the best in this life and I think they have the ability to help others who've been emotionally and physically abused. Take care.
Brian schnee is such a good reporter. Very talented and you can clearly see the passion he has for bringing the news to the masses in a way that's easy to understand. Good job Brian and team.
If I was to decide their fate for sentencing, all 3, Jodi, Rubie, the husband would get a full life sentence without parole. Because they destroyed all these children's spirit & soul for the rest of their lives with their cruel dominance & obedience training.
Why is Jodi’s Connexions Classroom business still open??? She has trained a bunch of minion “mental fitness trainers” that are still out there pushing their parenting “techniques” to who-knows-how-many unsuspecting parents out there! It should be shut down immediately!
Keep bringing this story to the public. The two women should be punished to the full extent of the law. If they are not , Utah I am sure will be in an uproar as well as the whole country. This is abuse in the worse way by your own parents . Wake up the government to see and act. Thanks.
As someone who was wrongfully imprisoned in the troubled teen industry for a year and a half (i was 16, had never been convicted of a crime, and was just doing pretty typical teen things), Jodi Hildebrandt's attitude and tactics are all too familiar. I hope the Franke children, and all children currently stuck in the troubled teen industry, will find peace and healing.
I’m sorry but Kevins in a lot of those videos starving the children and he’s asking for restitution? The only ones that deserve anything are those children who are traumatized for life, and it’s not Kevin Franke
I think that’s one of the great injustices in this case. If you think the husband had no idea this was going on, you’re being naive or ignorant. He should’ve been charged too.
I am SO SICK of the narrative that’s developed of: *this is all coming from Jodi.. Ruby was led by Jodi.. Jodi brainwashed Ruby..”* BULLSHIT! Ruby was an abusive sociopath on her own. She sought Jodi out for help abusing her children. I can already see this vile narrative being used to help her be granted early parole. Read her diary detailing timeline of the abuse. The worst stuff in there occurs when Jodi’s out of town and she acts all on her own. Jodi is just as much of an evil POS, but DO NOT DOWNPLAY Ruby’s level of responsibility and level of danger/evil.
Jessi, I admire your strength. Thank you for coming out with the truth. I hope you can find peace in your heart after going through a very difficult life.
No mention of Kevin? One only needs to watch his interaction with the officers returning his property to know that he is shady, manipulative, and dangerous…
The man was brainwashed by jodi and ruby and then used as a bank account... jodi and ruby forced him to leave the family with no contact, "because Kevin has a porn addiction." 😅
Jessi is so strong and I’m proud of her for coming forward to help shed some more light on the situation. It’s sad that Jodi was able to destroy so many lives. Ruby also needs to be held accountable.
A good summary of the case so far. Jessi and Adam are such courageous people. RF is an absolute hero. I hope they both get a lot of time. I know it's unlikely they will get the max, but I can't think of 2 people more deserving of it.
I don’t believe Ruby’s grandstanding when she said “With my deepest regret and sorrow for my family and children”. I think the only thing she feels sorrow and regret about is that it was discovered what she was doing to her children. It could no longer be brushed off or justified by her weird logic. Although Ruby escalated from the (very) questionable treatment of her children shown in 8 passengers to undeniable abuse I think the evil intent and maliciousness towards her children has always been there. Jodi helped her and provided the tools and strategies to kick it over the line.
I know what you're saying..because how did you not feel bad when it was happening, Ruby? 💔 As a mother I cannot fathom doing the things that were done.
The father knew, look that their old UA-cam videos he disciplined them military style. He sent his son to a camp where they slept outside and didn’t have food.
All im saying is the police had already been over there numerous times, Jody’s own niece couldn’t get the cops to do anything, so Kevin is didn’t go back over there because this is how it works in this country, somehow he would’ve been the leader and mastermind because it couldn’t of been them because they were poor girls that couldn’t defend themselves, he’s goes to life for prison and the two of them write a book and become multimillionaires, luckily because of the internet is starting women are more messed up then men, I’m mean every week 2 mores of these slores get caught sleeping with 3 of their students
I'm so proud of and so sorry for Judy's neice. I went through something similar as a teen. Nobody believed me and the court social workers threatened to jail me. It was devastating. It's still devastating. I'm 76. This young woman could have stopped this all if anyone had listened to her. Heartbreaking.
Has the LDS church issued a statement regarding this LDS family and therapist/ co-abuser? I doubt these children are the only children being harmed by LDS adults.
There should be a federal Congressional investigation into the Mormon Church’s culpability in helping Jodi Hildebrand abuse kids & destroy marriages for decades. There needs to be torture/child abuse charges that are worse than regular child abuse. This woman was like a Nazi Concentration Camp Guard without a camp full of of victims so she went out & found her own victims.
What a shame that Jodi won’t be held accountable for what she did to Jesse and all the other people that were involved with her. So many lives have been destroyed by her.
I'm very sure kids are very scared of their Dad. Please don't let kids go with their Dad. Those beautiful smart kids needs a loving and caring family who will show them what a real loving parents are supposed to be, to love them and protect them.
People are responsible for their own actions. Ruby is EQUALLY guilty. Perhaps more…they were her children. She should have done her parental due diligence when seeking help. The damn Mormon church and State of Utah hold responsibility as well for allowing this to continue after reports.
People are very misinformed about the timeline of events so let me clear things up: 2018 - Ruby and Kevin first got involved with ConneXions/Jodi 2019 - Chad gets sent to Anasazi (wilderness camp), his room/bed taken away, no phones or electronics, 2020 - Ruby becomes a "mental fitness trainer" and starts making videos with Jodi for Connexions 2021 - The youngest two don't get Christmas presents 2022 - Ruby stops uploading on 8 Passengers 2023 - Ruby and Jodi are arrested
Thank you for the timeline. Everyone needs to see that the abuse didn't just start up overnight. It's been ongoing for years and escalated each year to the present.
Thank you, makes things clearer in my brain. I’m happy I’m Swedish, not American. You are a strong intelligent woman, you stood against the brainwashing. 😰😵💫🥹 ❤🇸🇪
I just watched the sentencing of Shanda Vander Ark who sadistically tortured and murdered her son Timothy. This case has similarities, so many warned the authorities what cruelty was happening. Those two women are sadists.
-The neighbor who called 911 and helped Russell is truly a hero. -Russell’s escape to look for help is one of the greatest achievements stories of courage and bravery. -The Mormon church should also be held accountable, the great damage that religion has done to many people directly or under its influence is enough.
As a kid I was brainwashed by a therapist who was uncannily similar to Jodi. I’m working on a book. The world needs to know how vulnerable kids are to these monsters.
What Jesse said in this video, from some time back, describes exactly what we saw in Jodi and Ruby's arrest videos. The way the 2 women just stared at arresting officers, not saying anything (Ruby moreso than Jodi), is even more chilling now, after hearing Jesse tell that Jodi would demand Jesse do the same when spoken to. And same with the porn addiction accusations. Jodi claimed the same about Kevin Franke and the poor 12 year old boy. I feel so bad for anyone put in the care of that monster and Ruby. 2 very sick individuals.
I so appreciate the 911 caller trying to minimize the trauma by modifying each one of the dispatch's questions. It's obvious that he's disturbed by it and the necessary questions but once to soften the questions where he can but still get information. He certainly could have given the phone to the child at that point but remains on the call to act as a go between and add a bit of compassion to the questions. Afterall, the caller is looking at the child and his wounds where the dispatch is not.
Thank you, KUTV and Brian Schnee, for keeping everyone aware, so neither Jodi nor Ruby can just have this go away. I think the lack of public exposure allowed Jodi to continue her abuses. 18 months for what she did in 2010 was not sufficient. Obviously, it did nothing to even slow her down in her abuse.
@@sadie4me2@sadie4me2 for the issue with Adam Steed's breach of ethical conduct. Hidden True Crimes has a podcast. There is a longer one done with Mormon Stories; however, Mormon Stories had to be removed per a legal stop put on right after they aired it by his ex-wife, who supports Jodi.
Dear Jessi, My heart goes out to all the innocent victims in this horrendously sad story, but i am especially touched by your situation. Not only did you suffer the abuse, but spent years with no one believing you - including in the system which should have protected you! I applaud your strength and honesty, and wish you peace and happiness in the years ahead.❤
You know it's bad when the grown man calling 911 is crying but the child isn't..He did an amazing job keeping that poor boy calm..God bless all the innocent people involved in this tragic case
And with the dispatcher trying to keep emotions back.
This poor child will suffer from PTSD all his life.
This was heartbreaking to listen too 😢
Him saying the little boy said it was his own fault broke my heart no child should think being tied up and starved is their own fault I can not imagine the mental and physical abuse these kids have been through God be with them.
Kids in Utah become numb to it. I've lived here and watched. They don't know it's abusive because it's all they know
I know it's been said before, but the way that 911 caller questioned RF while on the phone was really nice under such pressure. He didnt want to use words that would trigger him or scare him before law enforcement and medical care arrived so he would be ready to cooperate and take help. The caller handled it sooooo well. So glad he and the rest of his household were around to give RF the help he needed.
I think I heard somewhere the caller was, himself, a former officer of the law in some capacity.
I pray for that man and his wife they are heroes but I know that had to have been hard on them.God bless them🙏🙏
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 I haven't heard anything definite, but I do get the vibe that he's ex-police or ex-military or something of that nature.
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing.
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I cried when the Emergency medical team arrived and said the open wounds on the boy's wrists and ankles caused by the rope and duct tape were smelling really bad, due to severe infection. It's absolutely heartbreaking how much these poor young children suffered, both physically and mentally. Please god help them to heal and thrive, and may they now always be surrounded with love and happiness.💕💕
Only to put handcuffs on a child is a horrible act, but it's insane to treat wounds with homeopathy, cover them with duct tape (WTF?) and put the handcuffs again on top... These women are dangerous and crazy.
Agreed everything in news about LDS it’s all cult and no one cares stop needs to be made to this and people ask why I am prejudice against Christian people and religion that’s cause they are the worst ones but I’m not saying all them are like that just the ones who are exactly like that it’s sad but it’s people like LDS that got me that way
And what makes me so mad is that those who want kids can’t have them would do anything for them and those who do got them treat them like animals and call themselves moms and dads so disgusting makes me sick and to make it worse protective services don’t do anything about it but pull kids out of the homes that don’t deserve to be removed
I’m a diabetic type two, I have a wound on my right ankle it’s an open wound so far it’s been six months and it is very slowly healing… And that is with great medical care from nurses and doctors and a hospital that does wound care in my area. These children have a long way to go before these physical wounds heal. Their mental wounds may never heal. I asked myself where was God during all of this! But I say that every time there’s some sad story in the news.
@@arelendil7where the other child, omg
This is so evil! These two women are warriors of Satan. How can you abuse children in this matter?
I cannot applaud Jodi's niece enough for speaking out against her. All of this is so horrific! I hope those children are able to receive the mental health help they are going to need. My heart goes out to them all. 💔
💯 Jessie is a good example of reclaiming your dignity and empowerment after such torture.
I hope the niece sends a detailed letter to the judge prior to sentencing in February. I also hope those children's voices are heard by the judge.
I agree with you on the kids gaining therapist but It’s good that she speaks up publicly. She’s a victim and I wanna see more of people on the same situation like her to speak up and not scared by the truth. Abuser will continue to abuse if no one call them out. But yes the niece needs therapy
And I believe every word Jessi said. It is so believable and logic.
And I wonder how many other kids were tortured by her??? I hope others are coming forward too
The cps/police/FBI should get all the names of people with children who signed up for this BS, to see if the kids are being abused.
I had the same thought the moment I heard of this case, every client of theirs should be looked into!
Great idea! I second this.
Well as I’ve listened multiple times to the methods of torture being used on all of these children when the YT channel was at it’s peak until the moment that little boy escaped, are some of the exact same methods of torture that another abusive mother Shanda Vander Arke used that killed her 15 yr old autistic son. She was convicted of 1st degree child abuse and murder by starvation and more. Guaranteed she watched Franke’s demented YT channel.
Heartbreaking. All this unnecessary suffering for absolutely no reason. Its insane
@@helpmeImpoor5314 It sure is. Goes to show one truly can’t judge a book by its cover.
Ruby does not get a pass because she was "misled" by Hildebrandt. The 1st time anyone ordered me to isolate my child, tie him up to weights and chains, with-hold food, sleep, clean clothes, family contact would have been the last. They should both rot in jail.
In one of the “8 Passengers” video clips, Ruby tells one of the girls that she will lose “the privilege of eating….” - …PRIVILEDGE OF EATING” a biological requirement to sustain LIFE is a “priviledge.” 🤦🏼♀️😡🤦🏼♀️😡🤦🏼♀️😡🤦🏼♀️😡
The empathy in the 911 callers voice gives me some faith in humanity.
The niece is brave to speak up and what she went through 😢 emotional abuse
If you listen, she starts saying "not appropriate" under her breath. As if reminding herself to be professional at that very moment and not curse.
We must stop calling people on UA-cam INFLUENCERS. It feeds narcissists.
I totally agree. I think Ruby F and Jody H should give the money they earned from their UA-cam channel to the children
They won't. They treated those kids worse than dogs, they were nothing but dirt below their manicured feet.
But they are influencers...they influence people to follower then on screen and in behavior, the influence other evil people like them (specificly her) to I fluency others to follower in their deviant behavior. Then there are the positive ones.🤷♀️
In-Fluence in a hypnotic state, to influence, this technology is being used to influence the minds of the young, so when they call these people "influencers" they are telling you what they are doing, they are putting people under a hypnotic state, young children, are let to have free reign on the tablets, phones, they are looking through tic-tok, and youtube and are being exposed to so much information, mostly harmful.#
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock!
The children now have the world in their homes, in their bedrooms, knowledge of all things good and evil at the slide of a finger on a screen. Images and clips that ought never be in a child's mind, the cartoons they watch are full of sexual innuendos and subliminal messages.
And now children are being influenced by people who are mentally ill, emotionally damaged, traumatised individuals who are "out of their right minds" who have not dealt with their inner pain and suffering, who are; as you rightly said being fed by all the attention they receive, energy, and will go to extremes to gain more adoration to fill their inner empty dark void.
And its the children and young adults, who they target, and the adults around them who are also lost in their own trauma are oblivious to all the dangers, due to their own addiction to social media, so the technological Trojan horse has infiltrated the homes, peoples minds hearts and souls, and until we wake up from the slumber and hypnotic state we were put into over the centuries, and reconnect with ourselves and our children, these narcissistic wolves in sheep's clothing will continue their in-fluence the children and the youth of today, and we see how that turns out don't we.
Every occupation attracts narcissists in every area of life ..
nothing can be blamed outside of them , just like any other personality disorder
It comes from within
A distortion of perception, it’s got nothing to do with being an influencer , actor politician or priest or anything else… just as all good comes from within so the bad
I hope the niece sue her aunt to oblivion and claim all her possessions.
Uh oh, be careful!.. you might offend “they/them” by referring to “they/them” as a “niece”. I don’t know what they/them’s are called.. niephews? 😂😜
Excommunicated from the church prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I agree. These women are abusers & they actually deserve punishment. Disgusting that the church was not held accountable as well. Just terrible.😢
@@LiveFreeOrDie2Adon’t be a dunce, Jessie themself referred to themself as a niece. This is just your transphobia shinning through. It costs you NOTHING to just be kind and respectful
@@flyin.hawaiian non-binary is under the trans umbrella
No mention of Kevin Franke's role in this. He allowed the kids to be maltreated for years before Jodi drove them apart. He supported sending his son to that horrid camp, he was there when bedrooms and beds were taken away, he's on film backing Ruby up punishing the kids.
He should not be allowed near any of those children. Right now, he is seeing dollar signs and that is his only interest in gaining custody.
Right, Like everyone in this Family,they all knew about the abuse Put we're only selfserving exploit their children daily so the can make millions on UA-cam Bonnie Hollein, Ellie and Jared, Deru Crew, Grandma and grandpa Griffith, and their mormon UA-camr friends Binghams, April and Davey, Leroys, Shumways, Jordan Page, Chatwins,and many more
He was also there when Ruby and Kevin took Christmas away from the two youngest children and then made them watch the other kids open their presents. Horrifying.
Do you know that Jodi was Chad's therapist and suggested he go to Anasazi?
OMG WTF?!!!! WOW...@@khaIid624
yep I thought the same...... I think the news is treading lightly with Kevin as nothing has formally been charged against him, but he hasn't been given custody back either. He claims he was "forced" not to be able to see his children, but he could have filed for divorce and fought for custody..... He didn't even try....
The church, the UTAH state board that kept Jody’s license without investigating previous complaints.. all them need to be investigated and hold accountable for their negligence!
The Mormon church is a kind of Mafia, for sure.
It is very likely that the so called training of Jodi and Ruby was done by a bullshit for profit school..... with no REAL accreditation. Two sicko con people... all in the name of a "religion".
Its a Big Club & your not in it.
meaning???@@NikeAureliusSnow
Yeah, we know that’s not going to happened.
Brilliant work KUTV. Whoever produced this did an amazing job of allowing these people to be heard.
Jessi can be so proud. Despite Jodi's violence, mistreatment, and horrific gaslighting, Jessi is well spoken, articulate, intelligent and personable, and deserves all the best in life.
She's not crazy. I would be a mess. Best of life, Jessi.
This is what happens when you get away from the Mormon cult.
That is true. She sure looks troubled doing all that shit to herself...
!00% agree, I could see her holding back tears whilst speaking so eloquently about her own ordeal, I hope she also finds justice for what that evil women done to her.
So she can have some closure, and heal that part of her that needs it, she is a inspiration to others who have been affected by the actions of the narcissistic individuals roaming the earth.
The fact that Jesse’s police report was ignored is terrible. Their story could have saved years of torture for these poor kids and angst for other people affected by Jodi’s twisted ideas of “truth”. I’m glad they decided to speak out to corroborate the kids’ stories.
Bless that neighbour...my heart broke to hear the cry of a brokenheart of a grown man😢😢😢😢😢
Yes! I cried bad as this man realized the hell the boy came from! I saw the wounds on news nation and they are unbelievable !! I was so shocked I could not breathe!!! Whattttttt??? 😢😢😢 Was my reaction! Those poor kids! I wanted to reach into my TV and hug 🤗 that little scared girl in the closet!!! OMG 😱 she was mentally broken. So many people would have loved that little girl so much! These sick narcissist mentalcase parents who never should have had any kids were raised by horrible abusive parents and is why they did this! Taking out hate on the kids! That Jodi came from a really bad sex abuse childhood and was cutting her arms up! Sickos!
That dear man didn’t even want to speak the words to the poor boy. If you watch his security video, he turns his back to the boy as he breaks down on the phone. His emotion makes me cry. ❤
The state of Utah and the Mormon Latter Days need accountability here, big time. This is absolutely dispicable. Sanctioned child abuse...
Not that it will matter to them, but I'm writing them a scathing letter.
Have you watch the docs on the 19 kids and counting family? It's crazy. The abuse is very real throughout that "church"
@@Courtroom85 all churches
This case does not equate to the church level. That argument is a lot like an idiot doing something outrageous by a gun owner being used to judge all gun owners. This was an an extreme case that definitely needs to be fully prosecuted.
@jamesgentry13 Not all churches. I belong to an Open and Affirming UCC community that doesn't ask me to leave my brains at the door. We're also part of the Progressive churches, where questions are welcome. Please, don't lump all of them together.
Let’s be clear. Jodi did not change Ruby. She did not influence her. Ruby was a child abuser before Jodi. Jodi’s philosophies aligned with Ruby and that is why she was connected to her. They aligned and supported each other in their evil.
That's the truth
That’s the one issue I had with what Jessi was saying. I get that she has anger towards her Aunt for what she did to her, but she was suggesting that Jodi was the mastermind in all of this and was kind of suggesting that Ruby was influenced by Jodi and her beliefs and that’s where I disagree! It’s as you said, they both came together and realized that they BOTH had similar viewpoints and a connection was made! Ruby was already doing some of these things, perhaps on a smaller level, but still harmful to her children, before she ever started following Jodi! So, to me, this is on both of them and actually, I would lean more towards blaming Ruby because they are HER own children….she gave birth to them!
@@Ms2unique4u 100%!!! I couldn’t agree more. Ruby had a responsibility to protect her children. Disgusting human. It also eliminates any sympathy I have for ruby’s husband as well. He too participated in the tactics that Ruby used on their children before Jodi. While he may not be responsible for the horrific events he is responsible for either participating in or not protecting his children from Ruby when he was in the home. And….. who the heck walks away from their children and has zero clue what is happening to them. The father of my children would walk barefoot over glass to see his children. All so very sad, for the children.
@2rational4u Ruby is not impressionable. Ruby was doing harsh punishment long before Jody. Lol. Even her sisters have said that she has always been a bully.
They BOTH need to take accountability!!
That gentleman that make the call is a hero he tried to make it less traumatic, his caution and empathy is admirable and inspirational for other men to be naturally protective and empathetic.
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As a counseling therapist this makes my skin crawl! Jesse is absolutely correct when she's saying that clients are vulnerable when they seek counseling and it's the therapists legal and ethical responsibility to not abuse that!
I'm in therapy for child sexual abuse from decades ago, as never reported it, but unfortunately it messed up my childhood and some of my adulthood, what these children have gone through I truly hope they are surrounded by people who genuinely care about them
"he says what's happened to him is his fault" ....those evil women.
Don't forget the evil dad.
@@cassieo4337 The victim dad, he wasn't charged, was he? Why do you think that is? He was under her control, too. I'm sure if the genders were reversed, you'd be looking at him as a victim, more than an enabler or co-abuser.
As the father, someone who is supposed to protect his kids - he needs to be held accountable too. Just because he wasn’t with the mom anymore doesn’t mean he can’t have contact with his kids - I would never agree to that
Right Kevin Franke abused them also for years
The charges don’t go back that far. Neither Ruby or Jodi are being held accountable (yet) for things they did before May 2023.
It sounds like Kevin was forced not to have contact with his kids. Whether he was involved in the abuse, that’s another thing. What about this other woman that was part of connexions?
I agree that Kevin is equally responsible but I don’t think the prosecutors didn’t have any evidence of anything that would stick. It might be an issues in family court.
Yeah, I worry that Kevin having the kids will work against them healing even if he's passive aggressive, covert, or simply his presence given the Franke's abuse of their kids before Jodi.
It needs to be MANDATORY for anyone wanting to become a psychologist/therapist to undergo serious and in depth therapy themselves before interacting with patients
They're supposed to, but her agency was so strongly supported by the church that the usual peer review that would take place in a reputable agency could be forgone.
Yeah if I’m not wrong she wasn’t allowed to be a therapist so she started calling herself a life coach or something like that.
The problem is people go on UA-cam claiming to be something they're not and gullible people fall for it!
Narcissists will simply lie though, so it’s not possible to diagnose
I know if you are a psychiatrist or a psychologist you have to get your own therapy first and throughout
Russell is a true hero. He more than likely saved his life and probably Eve’s life as well.
I was abused physically mentally and emotionally when i was a child by my step mother. My father was a severe alcoholic and let it happen and even participated at times. The school would even question me and my brother sometimes about bruises on us but bothing ever came of it. This was back in the mid 70's. We lived in a hoarder house and it was chaos most days. I really feel for these chilren. I never got any counceling or therapy as an adult and believe me the abuse i experienced as a child has had its effects on me as an adult. But when i became a mother i decided to be the one to break the cycle of abuse. I could never treat my child the way i was treated as a child. And hes 19 years old now and i am so proud of the adult hes growing up to be!
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I commend you! You broke the chain of abuse (as did I.) Your kid loves you. Remain supportive!
Blessings to Jessi Hildebrand for speaking out to help the Franke children
Still wondering why Kevin, who withheld food from the kids in their home, and took away their beds and rooms, hasn't been charged with anything.
If you watch his police interview he states he "was invited to leave because he was addicted to porn" I wonder where I keep hearing that phrase over and over again throughout this cult like circle
I like how he only filed for divorce after the house of cards collapsed
@@scottl.1568it was only to keep the children from foster care. The dad is a victim too, he was conned to leave the house, he was also accused of porn, and he was sent away to repent and get cured. He was convinced wanted to have sex with his wife was porn. He’s brainwashed and can not see past the gate keeping narcissists.
Funny how they keep accusing everyone of watching porn all narcissists tell of themselves
It's time to hold UA-cam accountable for perpetuating family channels as they're allowing known and reported abuse. Parents are getting rich off the exploitation of child labor without considering the long term mental health effects it can cause. It's time to end family channels, end cameras being shoved into childrens faces from the time they wake up to the time they go to sleep, having every and all aspects of their lives including personal and embarrassing moments on display for 8 billion people to criticize.
@haikuhaiku I couldn’t agree more
Imagine living your entire childhood in public, it’s so abusive. I guess we won’t reap the rewards until these kids are adults, but I imagine over the next couple of decades these grown kids will have issue.
I agree. They allow that garbage on their channels but don’t allow you to speak your mind without censoring every word.
UA-cam and TikTok also. How do they allow such young kids to be used and exploited for greed and perversion?! Why do we not have legislation being written and introduced that makes it punitive to use children online?! They can’t consent and they certainly can’t understand the risk and gravity of their personhood being accessible to the world. I think one day there will be stricter laws around this subject and society will look back at this time in shock and disgust that it was not only allowed but richly awarded. Our country as a whole needs to do more to protect our most innocent. Homeschoolers need a better check and balance system also, it’s a massive loophole for abuse to perpetuate. We could do so much more than we are doing to protect the welfare of children. Religion needs to be regulated also, something to mitigate or investigate this children at the center of these extremists.
I love how Ruby is so invested in natural consequences of behaviour so may she enjoy a life in jail along with that other vile excuse for a human being Jodi
Okay, if we didn't think Mormonism is a cult before... The Church of Latter Day Saints endorsed and recommended Jody as a marriage and mental health counselor for decades. The church bears some responsibility for all of those marriages and lives destroyed.
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They are 100 a cult. Every sector of the church. Absolutely disgusting
The Church "family services" is merely a group of licensed counselors who are members of the Church. They are not vetted by the Church or "endorsed" by the Church specifically. Sometimes, members of my faith prefer to have a counselor who is also a member of the Church because other Christian religions have very different interpretations of the scriptures that we do and often do not care to understand us (or worse, treat us with hatred or scorn, most especially if they happen to be Evangelicals or Southern Baptists). To be 100% honest, I've heard far more Evangelicals using "spare the rod, spoil the child" from the Bible to justify child abuse than I have heard any scripture unique to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints being used to justify child abuse. I can't actually think of one scripture unique to our faith that promotes child abuse in any way, and I can think of more than one that condemns it openly (most notably D&C 121:39-46). So, if there IS a cult at work here, it's the broader Christian community, especially Evangelical "fire and brimstone" ideology. That said, unfortunately, Evangelical ideas seems to be seeping more and more into Utah "Church" culture, probably through Republican connections, since such nonsense is prevalent in that group. In other areas where members of the Church are not so influenced by negative political ties, you see far less of the Evangelical ridiculousness and cult-like mentality.
All religion is a cult. Every single one. Look up the criteria’s of what makes a cult. And then look at religion. ….. there’s no coincidence in the fact that every cult leader has claimed that they have spoken to God, our God, or something along those lines. It’s not a coincidence.
@@dnmitchPREACH biggest truth ever every. Single. Religion. Is a cult, all of them
What makes me so mad, was this was so preventable. We made so many complaints to local authorities, not just DCFS but police. They KNEW. They never cared to look into these kids further and let Ruby isolate them at Jodi’s compound of torture.
I STILL worry about those kids given that DCFS was so negligent for years! Who’s checking up on DCFS to make sure they are doing THEIR job in protecting these kids now?
I just keep thinking of that family of like 10 kids who were isolated, taken out of school and horribly abused and neglected. They ended up getting g further abused in foster care, even after being removed from the parents custody and being such a high visibility case. I worry something like that could happen to the Franke kids too. 😢. Hopefully DCFS is now doing their job!
Over 80% of governmental offices are held by members of the LDS church-the same church that supported Hildebrandt for decades. Jodi isn’t the only “therapist”, Connexctions isn’t the only “program” being supported, funded & championed by the LDS church. Nothing will change until the Theocracy is dismantled. Which will be a very difficult & lengthy process. Sigh.
@@caseyjude5472It's not a theocracy.Joseph Smith was following teaching from an "angel".(Fallen angels are called demons).LDS is a cult.We are supposed to promote the Bible and God's will,in Jesus name,not follow"angels".
IT'S BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS BIASED TOWARDS WOMEN, DANGEROUSLY BIASED, AND THESE TYPE OF SOCIOPATHS KNOW HOW TO USE THIS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
@60clow The Turpin family, 13 kids and most ended up with cognitive disability because of malnutrition. Heartbreaking.
I am so impressed with Jessie. What a special soul. Your voice is so important!
The mormon church needs to be held accountable too
You mean like the Catholic Church in 2011. There, I fixed it for you!
Absolut 😈😈😈😈
Why exactly? I’m a member and have never been taught to do these things to my kids. Evil people can spring up in all parts of society, part of the reason is, as Christian’s, we’re taught to accepting of everyone. This lady has been taking advantage of people for years, a few misguided leaders that thought she was helping people, she wasn’t, does not mean the whole church is accountable for a nut that was preaching concepts, I have never seen in any manuals from the church.
@@jaimeranke3483 i am also a member. what these people did is so evil and i cant even express how sad it is. There is bad people in every religion, this is not what the church doctrine is about.
The church does share some blame here. These woman, Lori Daybell, Tim Ballard and many others attending the crazy conferences all focus on the book Visions of Glory written by a person who still has the trust of the church and they use for missionary mental health advice. The church knows how to shut this crazy cult behavior down and has done nothing. These people believe this equates to tacit approval of these doomsday not jobs and their underground cult behavior. There is a deeper story here that connects all these crazies to an underground book members are reading. Thom Harrison needs to be exposed for what he is and the church needs to either stop it or be honest about embracing it.
I hope that Kevin will be held accountable, too. Those kids had two parents and not one advocate. No protector. He could have been that for them and he should have been that for them.
Where was he ? What about visitation. He failed these children in his home and during the separation. He doesn't deserve custody of the children. How can they ever heal.
Kevin may not had engaged with the abuse at Jodie's home. But there is evidence that he approved of the mental and emotional abuse with Ruby in the videos made together. They were abusive before Jodie.
Their eldest daughter tried and the system FAILED them all.
I don't care if they were estranged, and I don't care about parental alimentation claims either. Parental alienation is a real thing, and it does cause many parents, mostly fathers, to become estranged from their children. But parents still fight for their kids. They go to court to try and see them. Kevin did nothing. For 13 whole months. That does not absolve him from guilt. The kids weren't being bound and tortured when he was in the home, but they were still being abused. And he was okay with it. I hope that he is not granted custody of any of those children.
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The way the niece speaks at her age is remarkable, she is brilliant
She gave about an 1.5 hour inteview on Mormon Stories (in you tube). It felt like a 15 minute interview, I couldn't stop listening to her.
Poor kid, look at the ugly tattoos, the ugly piercings, she's a wreck and not just because of the abuse she suffered from her mom and Jodi, but from the media's propaganda- influence.
I don't trust therapists who believe in sin. This is so evil. This happened to my family. A counselor tore my family apart and moved in with my mom. He convinced everyone I was an addict even though I was 12 and never tried drugs. I was sent to an adult treatment center. He told you step-father I said he molested me, which was a total lie. Those relationships were never repaired. Sick!
This has nothing to do with sin or righteousness. It's about control and delusion. Teaching a child about sin has nothing to do with abuse. The abuse itself is a sin. Not to mention that their version of sin comes from a false church. It is a cult.
😢😳 I am so heartbroken reading what your family went through. Lives were destroyed beyond repair and no one was held accountable. I’m so so sorry that happened to your family. I hope as individuals you continue to heal as much as possible.
@@deniseadkins2901I’m an ex-Mormon, and I agree with you that it is a cult. Joseph Smith was a known con artist, in fact. My “church” experience was horrible. When I left, they stalked me, leaving “God bomb” sticky notes on my car wherever I went. There’s so much more, but I’m too tired to type it right now. 😞 Point is, they made it hard to leave. Eventually, I left town.
My brother went to a military psychiatrist, (who was not religious,) because he was bummed out about a genetic eye problem he had. The psychiatrist rapidly destroyed his marriage and then his life, and he wound up dead only 3 months after starting his "treatment". Long before that, I was listening to the radio and a couple of disc jockeys were joking around about a new study by some psychologists who claimed that having affairs was the best way to help a marriage. Those are only two examples, but the point is that while some therapists might hide behind religion, there's clearly tons of horrible advice in the mental health community. I remember a point where mental health experts were insisting that sugar has no effect on kids. The list goes on and on. They call themselves experts, but it's best to question everything they say.
All Mormons???? That’s the tie to that evil crap as others do not do that stuff!
my grandfather was an elder in the LDS. I was born into generational abuse. I was severely abused before I could even walk or talk. my grandfather used God as his excuse for the abuse which came in all forms. My grandfather had some very warped views on God women and children. my mother also abused me and later started to sell me. I was sold for the first time at 6 yrs old. I was 7 the first time I was used in CSAM(child abuse materials) I now work against child abuse and trafficking. children deserve better! these children are lucky to be alive.
Same!! Thx for sharing.
I'm 53 and still have major cptsd
@@angiecarlotta369 Thank you hun I'm 52 and have the same. abuse truly robs a child of everything. I am sorry for what you endured. sending you love
Just another cult with too much power and money. Can't believe people believe this stuff.
I think our society should put more resources into children's rights (legally) and uncovering these rings of abuse. Children have rights and need more!!!
I plead the blood of Jesus through your veins for supernatural strength and comfort...in Jesus mighty name amen
This story is ringing loudly and clearly as we try to breathe through the evidence that has been released. Jesse told us what was coming. I adore their honesty and the courage they demonstrated in telling their story. I hope Jesse is healing as the children of Ruby begin their journey back to health. Their captors are imprisoned now…hopefully, they will never do more harm.
Thank you KUTV for your reporting on the Franke fam and JH . I feel Kevin Franke is not an innocent bystander and therefore should also be held accountable for this terrible situation.
Kevin Franke abused them also for years,He was fine with the abuse ITS all over UA-cam
There’s a theme with Jody. She accuses every adult and every child (even 3 year olds) of sexual sins... masturbation, pornography, incest. She also teaches that all mental illness and personality tiks come from ‘deep seeded shame’.
This tells us that this is her story. She is superimposing her past on every patient, client/children of clients. Wether this happened to her or she did to others, idk, but it happened.
I agree. These religious zealots that think everyone have deep dark hidden depravities are always projecting their thoughts onto others. Whether it be about sexuality, or whatever. It's always a case of projection.
I totally agree with you! She is obsessed with porn!!
I would have thought shame was preferable to shamelessness, but then I’m not Mormon and years ago realized I’ll never be perfect…that’s why I need Jesus. He is all my righteousness.
It seems like she has some sexual impulses she’s trying to suppress through others
Apparently she was one of Paris Hiltons mentors when Paris was taken to one of those 'ranches' as a kid
Neither one of these women should ever be released.
I still don't understand why the husband is getting characterized as being squeaky clean and not involved at all. That just doesn't seem possible to me.
What he didn’t see things going on in the house my hod what is he blind or just a coward or both
I can understand how being religious sheep could get them manipulated by Jodi, but NOT blaming a 3 year old for watching porn!
Would love to know there definition of “porn” something tells me that’s it’s not actually what we consider the word to be or the husband was watching it and it got blamed on the child. I don’t believe the 💩 they said about that child for 1 second.
And I agree. But I believe the investigation should include the Mormon Church and all the higher ups in that church that sent innocent people including children to this evil person for “counseling “. Where is there Mormon churches responsibility?
@@Nicki704 I agree, the Mormon corporation is complicit in this child torture scheme since they are notorious for demanding phone sex type masterbation details from children as young as seven years old, that's a crime. Mormon Bishops who engage in this kind of closed door inquisitions are criminals. The hundred year old corporation requires a humbling taxation in order to thwart further purposefully inflicted abuse onto vulnerable non-adults.
How? How would that even be possible? You can't blame a toddler for anything. If he did, which I don't believe, but _if_ he did watch corn at 3 years old, how? Who exposed him to it? How would he even know what to look for? It's the most ridiculous excuse for torturing your children I've ever heard.
This makes me suspicious it's a cover set up for abuse the boy has potential suffered in that respect or inappropriate things he may have been exposed to. Kids that little don't access or at least shouldn't have access to such things. Not sure how that happens. At any rate that obsessive accusations and blame is abusive. I hope the kids can heal and move on in their lives.
Jessi is not troubled teen but amazing intelligent young lady and I wish her all the best in life ❤
What an amazing job KKUTV has done covering this disturbing case, from its inception! This video was incredibly well done! Brian Schnee has done such an impressive investigation, and I appreciate his work keeping us updated on the terrible situation. Bravo! 👍👍
Follow up deep dive needed on all those group homes in Utah for troubled teens. They’re being run and operated by a bunch of nuts just like Jodi H!
Agreed!
I agree! Great work!!
Same. 💯💯💯
Brian Schnee has done a tremendous job and I'm sure his coverage will continue with this case as the sentencing is coming next month.
I also think Jesse did an outstanding job relaying her experience. She is so well spoken and articulate. She should write a book on being a survivor of extreme abuse.
Don’t bring life into this world if you don’t plan on being morally good parents.The scary thing is these two women actually thought they had more morals than the rest of us.
Yet another reason why we need our right to abortion back.
Scary thing is that these people do think they are morally good parents. Their minds are completely distorted.
What’s scary is they thought they were morally right, hundreds of thousands of people not only agreed with them but took their advice and the Mormon church recommended her to families despite knowing hildebrants past ab*se with her niece.
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She didn’t abuse her children, because she couldn’t get an abortion. Really, think before you speak.
I think Jodi and Ruby were lovers.That could be the reason the 2 younger kids were restrained!
The man who called 911 sounded such a nice and kind-hearted man. I feel sorry that the kid felt it was his fault. It was not! I think the father should have checked on his kids more often, no matter what. No one looking at those wounds could have accepted this!
I pray for Adam! I have never ever seen a man so broken. I'm so glad he had the bravery to come forward and expose Jody.
Jodi is so clearly the problem here. I honestly believe she targeted ruby because ruby had a huge following amd money and really brainwashed her! Obviously ruby was stupid and guilty of abuse but she is a victim too...
I'm sure you are a good person, but I am so done with the thoughts and prayers thing Let's just say that Adam did a good thing and applaud him, And wish him well in atheism.❤
@@ricardoflores8934 you're you and I'm me. If you didn't agree with me, you could have just scrolled by and not commented. Maybe you're not really done with the thoughts and prayers "thing". Try talking to Jesus sometime. He will never leave you.
@@lindsayb1329the ironic thing is that you feel the need to evangelize a stranger on the internet that is an admitted atheist. Not everyone believes in the same thing you believe in, and that’s okay. Christianity teaches tolerance and patience and acceptance yet you yourself demonstrate none of those things in your interactions with others.
@@krispeekream ok and you can thank that. Whatever
I was a victim of childhood abuse and sought help from local law enforcement in 1976. I was not believed and was asked outright what I did for this to happen. It is very difficult to have a voice when the perpetrator has all the power.
I believe you
We have to push for children's rights - All parents having 100% control over their children's wellbeing through age 18 is perilous for some children.
My mother destroyed my credibility too. Starting at a VERY young age- i was horribly abused my my violent mentally unstable mother and my alcoholic father, i was a very angry child. I remember being so frustrated because i wasn't allowed to have a voice, beatings on a regular basis for all of us- i developeda stutter and would urinate all over myself when my father raised his voice to me which always ended pretty badly and my sister who could not even speak until she was 10 the doctor had told my parents it was because of trauma my mother would leave us and take off for weekends without even telling us to fend for ourselves. I remember being so frustrated all the time which led to relationship problems friendship problems and unable to identify with a normal healthy family and relationship between parents and children this took me years and years to work through with tons of therapy I still don't know what it's like to be able to have a conversation with a father figure because it is so foreign to me I don't know how it works. People say they feel bad but the truth is I never had it so I don't know what I missed I do know what it was supposed to be but I never lost it -because I never had it.. and my mother becoming angry and constantly hitting me every time she was upset she would be hitting me even if it had nothing to do with me she would start hitting me always whacking me around didn't matter who saw it followed with swearing and vicious insults in front of other people which always left me embarrassed an insecure. It goes a lot deeper than this but I don't want to feel triggered talking about this right now I watch this and amazement because I know these kids are going to have problems for the rest of their life the inability to relate to others even in a conversation is a lifelong problem because you never know if you're doing it right or wrong and you know people think there's something strange going on when they walk away.
I hope these kids are able to heal someday but the chances are they probably will never recover 100%. If any of these kids are reading this You Are Not Alone there's millions of kids around the world that go through this violence and Pure Evil and we all understand what you've gone through and even though many of us still don't have a voice we are all praying for you in our heads in silence.
You never deserved these kind of parents. You are worthy, deserve to be loved, appreciated, protected and RESPECTED! The Virgen Mary is the only true MOTHER
❤Hugs from Oklahoma....
Sending you hugs 🫂
God bless you
@@alejandrawalker5045 She is my only mother 💗
Its was so difficult listening to the testimony of the niece, and infuriating knowing that Jodi will never be punished for the abuse she inflicted upon her niece.
I’ve heard that phone call so many times but it still gets me, when the man chokes up, he tries to find words like ‘detained’ to not scare that brave boy more than he’s already terrified
I’ve never made it to the very end, the neighbour says “he says it’s his fa*** (it’s not)
The 911 lady says that’s sad to hear. Three total strangers showing them more love & comfort than his parents. I expect that lady was really touched by this too & likely she’d more than a few tears 😢
I’ll never forget the phone call that older gentleman made to 911 on that poor boy. The tears he held back: *I broke.* When the EMS worker began to cry: *I broke.* I believe the *entire world broke as well.* However, it was the *bruised* and *battered boy* who *hadn’t broke.* He *saved the day* & *started* the *healing process* for *his family,* for the *countless other victims,* for the *world* and *I pray,* for *himself.* I’ll always *believe him* to *be a hero.*
Ruby, Jodi and Kevin are all disgusting perpetrators of child abuse and neglect. Kevin should not have custody of those children as he did NOTHING to stop Rubys on-going abuse during and after the penency of thier marraige. How dare him sue for money under the guise of his children, when he never checked on them while this was happening. The money is for him. He is culpable and complicit with the abuse and neglect of his children.
Thats so true, Kevin Franke abused them also for years 💯
Now Kevin franke has the nerve to sue for damages he needs to be held accountable
Kevin is a wimp. He should have protected those kids. There is no way he did not know what was going on.
1000% the neighbor saw the bruises how did the father not see it. He is BS
Kevin, the father had nothing to do with abusing his kids. Ruby had him leave & I don’t know where he went, but I used to watch this family before that witch came into their lives. They had a normal loving family & a big beautiful extended family. Ruby is so brainwashed by that evil woman.
Jessi, thank you for sharing your story. I can only imagine how re-traumatizing it is to watch it happening to other kids and re-telking your story. We believe you.
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I believe children more than most adults people need to listen when children speak up about stuff like this!
It's astonishing that Jessie is able to reflect on all of this torment so clearly. Their comments and assesment of the abuse done to Jessie and to the other kids are so well considered. I wish them all the best in this life and I think they have the ability to help others who've been emotionally and physically abused. Take care.
Brian schnee is such a good reporter. Very talented and you can clearly see the passion he has for bringing the news to the masses in a way that's easy to understand. Good job Brian and team.
Ruby was already abusive to her children prior to Jodi. Jodi and Ruby ia like gasoline meeting a flame. True folie" a deux.
I feel just like the neighbor that answered the door and helped the boy. Tears in my eyes.
If I was to decide their fate for sentencing, all 3, Jodi, Rubie, the husband would get a full life sentence without parole. Because they destroyed all these children's spirit & soul for the rest of their lives with their cruel dominance & obedience training.
I can’t help but tear but every time I hear that 911 call. You just can’t get past the horror that man was seeing before his eyes
The neice, Jessi was so articulate and credible in what she said. I hope she and the other children can heal from the abuse they endured.
Why is Jodi’s Connexions Classroom business still open??? She has trained a bunch of minion “mental fitness trainers” that are still out there pushing their parenting “techniques” to who-knows-how-many unsuspecting parents out there! It should be shut down immediately!
Right ?!
And she still has an instagram ! She’s a very sick person
Keep bringing this story to the public. The two women should be punished to the full extent of the law. If they are not , Utah I am sure will be in an uproar as well as the whole country. This is abuse in the worse way by your own parents . Wake up the government to see and act. Thanks.
They were punished , they both will problem die in prison , and rightly so …..They were monsters….. Unbelievable…
@@iap-ug3oymax is 15 years
Where does a three year old get access to pornography in a Mormon household? Ruby truly is not living in reality.
As someone who was wrongfully imprisoned in the troubled teen industry for a year and a half (i was 16, had never been convicted of a crime, and was just doing pretty typical teen things), Jodi Hildebrandt's attitude and tactics are all too familiar. I hope the Franke children, and all children currently stuck in the troubled teen industry, will find peace and healing.
I’m sorry but Kevins in a lot of those videos starving the children and he’s asking for restitution? The only ones that deserve anything are those children who are traumatized for life, and it’s not Kevin Franke
I think that’s one of the great injustices in this case. If you think the husband had no idea this was going on, you’re being naive or ignorant. He should’ve been charged too.
@@drewizkoollikeicecre he still should be charged and the judge isn’t so shit to him
I am SO SICK of the narrative that’s developed of: *this is all coming from Jodi.. Ruby was led by Jodi.. Jodi brainwashed Ruby..”* BULLSHIT! Ruby was an abusive sociopath on her own. She sought Jodi out for help abusing her children. I can already see this vile narrative being used to help her be granted early parole. Read her diary detailing timeline of the abuse. The worst stuff in there occurs when Jodi’s out of town and she acts all on her own. Jodi is just as much of an evil POS, but DO NOT DOWNPLAY Ruby’s level of responsibility and level of danger/evil.
Jessi, I admire your strength. Thank you for coming out with the truth. I hope you can find peace in your heart after going through a very difficult life.
No mention of Kevin? One only needs to watch his interaction with the officers returning his property to know that he is shady, manipulative, and dangerous…
I observed that as well
The man was brainwashed by jodi and ruby and then used as a bank account... jodi and ruby forced him to leave the family with no contact, "because Kevin has a porn addiction." 😅
The cops who dismissed Jessie's report should be investigated!
This is INEXCUSABLE!!!
Jessi is so strong and I’m proud of her for coming forward to help shed some more light on the situation. It’s sad that Jodi was able to destroy so many lives. Ruby also needs to be held accountable.
This was so well done Brian. You deserve all the recognition in the world for your incredible coverage of this story.
Those two should not be out of jailed in whole their remaining lives.
A good summary of the case so far. Jessi and Adam are such courageous people. RF is an absolute hero. I hope they both get a lot of time. I know it's unlikely they will get the max, but I can't think of 2 people more deserving of it.
I don’t believe Ruby’s grandstanding when she said “With my deepest regret and sorrow for my family and children”. I think the only thing she feels sorrow and regret about is that it was discovered what she was doing to her children. It could no longer be brushed off or justified by her weird logic. Although Ruby escalated from the (very) questionable treatment of her children shown in 8 passengers to undeniable abuse I think the evil intent and maliciousness towards her children has always been there. Jodi helped her and provided the tools and strategies to kick it over the line.
I believe she absolutely meant it. Jodi had her in thrall. It does not mitigate responsibility, but I believe she meant it and has remorse.
I know what you're saying..because how did you not feel bad when it was happening, Ruby? 💔 As a mother I cannot fathom doing the things that were done.
She feels worse for embarrassing her family than she does for the harm done
Shes sorry she got caught . If anyone hurt a hair on my kids head i wouldn't be held responsible for my actions x
@Querencia7779 she meant not one word!
The way the neighbor was asking that child questions was so kind. That sounded hard on him to have to see a child like that. Bless his gentle soul...
The FATHER NEEDS TO BE CHARGED AND SERVE A PRISON SENTENCE. YOU CANNOT TELL ME HE DIDN’T KNOW.
You’re right and he lied in the police interview etc
The father knew, look that their old UA-cam videos he disciplined them military style. He sent his son to a camp where they slept outside and didn’t have food.
You don’t understand that Kevin is not the only victim …there is a long line of men who suffered under Hildebrandt counsel.
@@candykane4271 Kevin is in no way shape or form a victim. He was abusing those kids long before Jody.
All im saying is the police had already been over there numerous times, Jody’s own niece couldn’t get the cops to do anything, so Kevin is didn’t go back over there because this is how it works in this country, somehow he would’ve been the leader and mastermind because it couldn’t of been them because they were poor girls that couldn’t defend themselves, he’s goes to life for prison and the two of them write a book and become multimillionaires, luckily because of the internet is starting women are more messed up then men, I’m mean every week 2 mores of these slores get caught sleeping with 3 of their students
Im excited for Jesse's future going back to college. She is so intelligent and has such an important testimony against this abuse.
I'm so proud of and so sorry for Judy's neice. I went through something similar as a teen. Nobody believed me and the court social workers threatened to jail me. It was devastating. It's still devastating. I'm 76. This young woman could have stopped this all if anyone had listened to her. Heartbreaking.
Has the LDS church issued a statement regarding this LDS family and therapist/ co-abuser? I doubt these children are the only children being harmed by LDS adults.
Thank you KUTV for the comprehensive, reliable coverage you've provided ever since this nightmare first came to light.
Agreed ❤
There should be a federal Congressional investigation into the Mormon Church’s culpability in helping Jodi Hildebrand abuse kids & destroy marriages for decades.
There needs to be torture/child abuse charges that are worse than regular child abuse. This woman was like a Nazi Concentration Camp Guard without a camp full of of victims so she went out & found her own victims.
What a shame that Jodi won’t be held accountable for what she did to Jesse and all the other people that were involved with her. So many lives have been destroyed by her.
Life imprisonment she is very unwell
I bet we will start seeing HUNDREDS of civil cases against her in the future.
I'm very sure kids are very scared of their Dad. Please don't let kids go with their Dad. Those beautiful smart kids needs a loving and caring family who will show them what a real loving parents are supposed to be, to love them and protect them.
Get the kids away from Mormon cult!
People are responsible for their own actions. Ruby is EQUALLY guilty. Perhaps more…they were her children. She should have done her parental due diligence when seeking help. The damn Mormon church and State of Utah hold responsibility as well for allowing this to continue after reports.
People are very misinformed about the timeline of events so let me clear things up:
2018 - Ruby and Kevin first got involved with ConneXions/Jodi
2019 - Chad gets sent to Anasazi (wilderness camp), his room/bed taken away, no phones or electronics,
2020 - Ruby becomes a "mental fitness trainer" and starts making videos with Jodi for Connexions
2021 - The youngest two don't get Christmas presents
2022 - Ruby stops uploading on 8 Passengers
2023 - Ruby and Jodi are arrested
Thank you for the timeline. Everyone needs to see that the abuse didn't just start up overnight. It's been ongoing for years and escalated each year to the present.
Thank you, makes things clearer in my brain. I’m happy I’m Swedish, not American.
You are a strong intelligent woman, you stood against the brainwashing. 😰😵💫🥹 ❤🇸🇪
I just watched the sentencing of Shanda Vander Ark who sadistically tortured and murdered her son Timothy. This case has similarities, so many warned the authorities what cruelty was happening. Those two women are sadists.
A bright young lady, hopefully now that she is free from her abuser, is now thriving.
It's a shame about her tattoos and piercings though. That's the medias influence.
It’s mind boggling that Kevin is being left out of all this when he was just as responsible, if not more so in some cases, than ruby.
Father is part of all of these abuse caused by their mother, he never stepped in to stop it. He deserves the same punishment as his wife.
I 100% agree
Indeed he's just as much to blame!
This is even worse than I imagined. The authorities knew for years what this woman did. I don't even believe this is religion. It's sadism.
-The neighbor who called 911 and helped Russell is truly a hero.
-Russell’s escape to look for help is one of the greatest achievements stories of courage and bravery.
-The Mormon church should also be held accountable, the great damage that religion has done to many people directly or under its influence is enough.
Exactly
As a kid I was brainwashed by a therapist who was uncannily similar to Jodi.
I’m working on a book. The world needs to know how vulnerable kids are to these monsters.
What Jesse said in this video, from some time back, describes exactly what we saw in Jodi and Ruby's arrest videos. The way the 2 women just stared at arresting officers, not saying anything (Ruby moreso than Jodi), is even more chilling now, after hearing Jesse tell that Jodi would demand Jesse do the same when spoken to. And same with the porn addiction accusations. Jodi claimed the same about Kevin Franke and the poor 12 year old boy. I feel so bad for anyone put in the care of that monster and Ruby. 2 very sick individuals.
Great work!!! What a powerful documentary! Thanks to all involved!
I so appreciate the 911 caller trying to minimize the trauma by modifying each one of the dispatch's questions. It's obvious that he's disturbed by it and the necessary questions but once to soften the questions where he can but still get information. He certainly could have given the phone to the child at that point but remains on the call to act as a go between and add a bit of compassion to the questions. Afterall, the caller is looking at the child and his wounds where the dispatch is not.
She isn’t a therapist, she is a cult leader.
I would like to see the body cams when these two were arrested.
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they're pretty boring.
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Thank you, KUTV and Brian Schnee, for keeping everyone aware, so neither Jodi nor Ruby can just have this go away. I think the lack of public exposure allowed Jodi to continue her abuses. 18 months for what she did in 2010 was not sufficient. Obviously, it did nothing to even slow her down in her abuse.
18 months?
Good point!
@@sadie4me2@sadie4me2 for the issue with Adam Steed's breach of ethical conduct. Hidden True Crimes has a podcast. There is a longer one done with Mormon Stories; however, Mormon Stories had to be removed per a legal stop put on right after they aired it by his ex-wife, who supports Jodi.
The Mormon church needs to speak out about this.
Dear Jessi, My heart goes out to all the innocent victims in this horrendously sad story, but i am especially touched by your situation. Not only did you suffer the abuse, but spent years with no one believing you - including in the system which should have protected you! I applaud your strength and honesty, and wish you peace and happiness in the years ahead.❤