The Hien Soft was my first artisan and I used it for a year, I switched to a zero and I saw drastic aim improvement. For that reason alone I think I’d have to recommend Zero as the safe option for someone looking to get their first Artisan, it’s the slowest of the Artisan pads for sure but it’s well fast enough for tracking in any game you like
We have the opposite experience lol. What’s weird is my mouse felt like It kept getting stuck(started on zero) my aim feels better on the hien and I’m building mouse control. Better micro adjustments, tracking and speed but zero still one of my fav pads but feels too slow for me now. I wanna try the whole artisan lineup lol
Hey i play all sorts of games but my main ones are valorant and fortnite would you reccomened the zero or the hien in soft?i have watched unhealthy amount of vidoes trying to figure it out and couldnt find my answer
The Raiden is fast but its surprisingly easy to control as well, it have great stopping power if you press down on the xsoft by far one of the best mousepad
@@assassinex-yt3263 it's amazing for Val and Csgo for me like the micro adjustment is effortless and it's very easy to press down for stability and control so great for crosshair placement/angle holding
@@assassinex-yt3263 In general mastering a faster pads raises the skill ceiling and will come in handy at any fps game. The question is are you willing to spend the time to do it? Especially in tac fps crosshair placement is more important than raw aim.
Hey i could need some help. I play really low sens (100cm/360°) I mainly play CS2. The size of the Artisan mousepads would be ok for but i still dont know which one i should choose. I use my whole arm to aim. Thank you for the Video.
What do you think would be best for games like league of legends where you need both speed and control? Would Zero still be the way to go? I play on a semi high DPI (1600) (6/10 sens) but play with a heavy mouse around 112g + PTFE Teflon Gliders (XTRFY m2). If i'd pick Zero I think I'd need to pick the mid version because I really hate heavy mice on control pads like QCK Steelseries. I was thinking about Raiden but now idk anymore. I use my wrist to aim as well and I'm not sure how stuck my wrist would get on a Zero/Hien pad?
I need some advice, the game i play is CS and i have 7k hours. Throughout playing over the years i have played the GSRSE and the Vaxee PA. Since the yen is quite low still at the moment i want to buy a artisan mousepad. What pad would compare to a new Vaxee PA/GSRSE? I was torn between the zero or hien in either mid or soft. Or is there another pad you would recommend instead?
Artisan doesn't have a pad that's close to GSRSE/PA right now. So if you lookin for a new experience you can get Saturn Pro or Memoria Pro as more durable and closest in terms of glide feelings to gsrse\pa
Can someone help me for buying the best artisan pad? I play R6 and need to flick fast and control recoil.Also I need a smooth surface because my wrist hurts a lot on my qck neo noir Steelseries. Any recommendations?
Why does everyone keep saying the hien is “abrasive”. I have a hien soft and i can confirm it is NOT abrasive. Its actually very smooth. Also to add, its a slow mousepad. My otsu is a lot faster. Im not sure why youtubers are stating that the hien is “faster” and abrasive. My hien is smoother and slower than my gigantus v2. Therefore god forbid i get the zero which must be very slow
we're getting into personal feeling territory) In general, the surface of Hien is the roughest of all popular pads. This needs to be warned about, because I imagine that a large portion of regular users have never encountered such a surface before. Speed is also a complex issue, as it is influenced by many factors. From the size and wear of the glides on the mouse, to the level of humidity. I would really like to purchase equipment to more accurately test dynamic and static friction in future. But in the meantime, you can check out this interesting test - www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/filp57/20_mouse_pads_tested_for_comparative_static_and/
I've been maining the hien for the last 3 years it definitely IS abrasive but after a period of 6 months - 1 year it will gradually lose texture and speed or develop slow spots depending on how well you take care of it it will last much longer
It's rough feeling but not abrasive to the skin. I don't agree that's its a slow pad, it is faster than hayate otsuV2 , maybe your mouse skates is slow.
@@H3SO88 im using the logitech g pro superlight standard skates on both surfaces. The hien is slower than a razer gigantus v2. The otsu is faster than both. Its not even a comparison. All these reviews are ridiculous. The hien is smooth to the touch. There is no abrasiveness whatsoever. I double checked thst i definitely have a hien and not lets say a zero and the marking on the right bottom is for hien.
@@H3SO88I have the raiden and I been looking for a pad that was very fast like the Razer Strider for the first 2 months i had it. I tried raiden and its not fast as i thought and i dont like the texture. Do you think hien would be like the razer strider speed? Does it slow down quick?
Hey thanks for the Video but i am still confused. I use the Roccat Sense Icon(resin surface) with Corpad Skatez. I feel like this is a more on the faster side. Do you know which Artisan is similar in terms of speed? Thank you very much
How can we get the newer version that has a larger logo like yours? When searching on their website they only show the one that has the older and smaller logo 😢 I'm kinda hesitated to make a purchase because I'm afraid I'm gonna get the old version. Can you help me please? Thank you
If you buy from their official site, you will definitely get the version with the new logo. they changed it about two years ago, I doubt you can accidentally buy one with the old logo anywhere else, unless it's a used one)
would you say the hayate otsu is the best all-rounder? i'm looking for kind of a compromise between the hien and zero. I play fortnite and rainbow, so i need something that still stop well ater a flick, but has enough speed for easy micro adjustments and tracking with arm aim. The otsu being smooth to the touch is a huge plus and i'm interested
theoretically yes, but I'd suggest looking at the memoria pro like a more safer option you can look at my review of it ah and top 5 mousepads, my recent video
@@Chugs4Serotonin I hope you like it! btw if you are from europe there is a good sale on it www.maxgaming.com/en/mousepads/memoria-pro-gaming-mouse-pad-blue
you get a new dishwashing sponge dishwashing detergent (liquid only, without any granules or abrasive additives) you throw the pad in the bathtub soak it sponge it gently rinse off the soap lay the pad on a flat surface wait for it to dry done) Any uncoated pad can be cleaned this way
@@sindwel sorry but can you explain why? I need smoothness and speed, rather than control etc.Can you give me a recommendation for high sens? Does it mean using a slow pad to play with high sens is better?
@@kangkanglim1349 I don't know your level of mouse control. If it's absolutely perfect, you can play even on a glass pads with no problem. If not, then you'll be more likely to overshoot on the hien because it seems pretty fast for the first couple months. That's why I always recommend safer options for valorant
@@sindwel thanks for explaining, Im around Asc3 with 800dpi 0.7 sens, doing accurate flicks and smoothness has been comfortable for me, ofc I won’t say it’s perfect.Usually just play and ignore performance …..I should really try control pads but for now I need one for apex and valo
@@kangkanglim1349 i think hien is good for you i played on the same sensitivity even more i played on 800dpi 0.81 i main pulsar x2h and hien, for me hien is so fast at first but when u played for 2-3 months it'll be on the best conditions or i should recommend u after using it for 3-5 days just wash it, then it'll feel better, bcs for me hien straight from the box is soo fast it almost feels there's coating on it, but if you want to get more smoother and not really like rough texture, i reccomend u to try the hayate otsu mid, xm2we is the best for that i used to main xm1r and endgame mousefeet feelss soo smooth on any mousepad especially artisan
As someone who plays overwatch at top 500, I’d recommend a faster pad such as the raiden or hien. Raiden is a cloth pad and the hien is textured. I personally have a soft raiden pad, works great for me.
I own an Artisan Hien Mid, but i want more control, i feel like i over aim most of the time, ive a gpx with Tiger Arc gliders too. Should i buy a Artisan Hayate Otsu XSoft. I think that one is the best option for me, i play fortnite, so im making flicks very often, tracking its important too. Thanks for reply, loved the video!
This is a tough question because otsu is very similar in glide to hien. I just think otsu is faster through the break in period and otsu can get slower than hien. But overall they are very similar pads in terms of speed. Sure xsoft will give you more control, but if you have a habit of pushing the mouse too hard, you might get the opposite effect - under aim. I would advise you to look at memoria pro as a safer option. (or zero mid if you only want artisan)
yeah I know, I did it intentionally, just because I think it's a controversial and outdated pad, it's not even listed on the site anymore (although you can still buy it if you google it). Artisan should be releasing the second version shidenkai soon, then I will definitely try it out and make a video of it
@sindwel the shidenkai is an awesome pad, I have been using one for a while now and look forward to the next version. I am currently using a raiden xsoft and it is great too. Feels just as fast to me
@@mikerzisu9508 The only thing stopping me from buying a shidenkai was the numerous complaints about rapid wearing out. Overall, this is not surprising, as the pad has an unusual coating. I hope in the second version they have solved this problem)
All that changes between XSoft and MId is the sponge thickness, please stop saying one's for control and the other for speed. As long as you don't shove your mouse in the mousepad the speed is the exact same
Techicaly yes, but as long as regular user dont have a perfect mouse pressure control then any soft pad gives a better stopping power. Which mean a "better control".
Why are you commenting shit like it’s a fact when you’re blatantly wrong? Do the tiniest bit of research and you’d know that spongier pads are better for control and harder better for speed. Why even comment when you don’t know what you’re talking about
I play Fortnite and aim with my wrist what artisan mousepad would you recommend?
I'm not recommending any artisan pads right now.
Reviewers have already gotten a whole new line of pads from them.
If you can wait, you should wait.
@@sindwel Thanks, I can wait for 2-3 months
@@sindwel wdym new line. Like an improved line of the existing pads or completely new pads?
@@Eric-sm2qt new pads
The Hien Soft was my first artisan and I used it for a year, I switched to a zero and I saw drastic aim improvement. For that reason alone I think I’d have to recommend Zero as the safe option for someone looking to get their first Artisan, it’s the slowest of the Artisan pads for sure but it’s well fast enough for tracking in any game you like
yeah, slow to mid pads is always safest choice, cause not many people have great mouse control
and hien not so consistent
Did you get an Artisan Zero Soft?
We have the opposite experience lol. What’s weird is my mouse felt like It kept getting stuck(started on zero) my aim feels better on the hien and I’m building mouse control. Better micro adjustments, tracking and speed but zero still one of my fav pads but feels too slow for me now. I wanna try the whole artisan lineup lol
@@kunai222 then I suggest you wait
artisan is preparing a brand new line of pads and rebranding
Hey i play all sorts of games but my main ones are valorant and fortnite would you reccomened the zero or the hien in soft?i have watched unhealthy amount of vidoes trying to figure it out and couldnt find my answer
thanking you! helpful stuff
youre welcome!
The Raiden is fast but its surprisingly easy to control as well, it have great stopping power if you press down on the xsoft by far one of the best mousepad
It is, which is why it's my favorite artisan pad. But you have to know how to control pressure on mouse, so I can't recommend it to everyone)
@@sindwelif I were able to master the raiden xsoft would it be better than the zero? For valorant and cs.
@@assassinex-yt3263 it's amazing for Val and Csgo for me like the micro adjustment is effortless and it's very easy to press down for stability and control so great for crosshair placement/angle holding
@@assassinex-yt3263 In general mastering a faster pads raises the skill ceiling and will come in handy at any fps game.
The question is are you willing to spend the time to do it? Especially in tac fps crosshair placement is more important than raw aim.
@@sindwelso you would say someone who can perfectly play with the raiden xsoft and the zero xsoft is better in valorant when using the raiden xsoft?
Hey i could need some help. I play really low sens (100cm/360°) I mainly play CS2. The size of the Artisan mousepads would be ok for but i still dont know which one i should choose. I use my whole arm to aim. Thank you for the Video.
What do you think would be best for games like league of legends where you need both speed and control? Would Zero still be the way to go? I play on a semi high DPI (1600) (6/10 sens) but play with a heavy mouse around 112g + PTFE Teflon Gliders (XTRFY m2).
If i'd pick Zero I think I'd need to pick the mid version because I really hate heavy mice on control pads like QCK Steelseries. I was thinking about Raiden but now idk anymore. I use my wrist to aim as well and I'm not sure how stuck my wrist would get on a Zero/Hien pad?
Good Job. Thx for this video. I purchased the zero in soft for CSGO =]
You're welcome!
you like it? not too fast for cs2?
@@ronald0122 no its really good
I need some advice, the game i play is CS and i have 7k hours. Throughout playing over the years i have played the GSRSE and the Vaxee PA. Since the yen is quite low still at the moment i want to buy a artisan mousepad. What pad would compare to a new Vaxee PA/GSRSE? I was torn between the zero or hien in either mid or soft. Or is there another pad you would recommend instead?
Artisan doesn't have a pad that's close to GSRSE/PA right now. So if you lookin for a new experience you can get Saturn Pro or Memoria Pro as more durable and closest in terms of glide feelings to gsrse\pa
Honestly i play lots of games like valo, overwatch, apex, cod, csgo….. i need whichever one is the most universal
I think youd better get Saturn Pro
its a most balanced pad Iv ever used
which is good zero or Hayate otsu v2?
Can someone help me for buying the best artisan pad? I play R6 and need to flick fast and control recoil.Also I need a smooth surface because my wrist hurts a lot on my qck neo noir Steelseries.
Any recommendations?
Great video
Thank you!
Why does everyone keep saying the hien is “abrasive”. I have a hien soft and i can confirm it is NOT abrasive. Its actually very smooth. Also to add, its a slow mousepad. My otsu is a lot faster. Im not sure why youtubers are stating that the hien is “faster” and abrasive. My hien is smoother and slower than my gigantus v2. Therefore god forbid i get the zero which must be very slow
we're getting into personal feeling territory)
In general, the surface of Hien is the roughest of all popular pads. This needs to be warned about, because I imagine that a large portion of regular users have never encountered such a surface before.
Speed is also a complex issue, as it is influenced by many factors. From the size and wear of the glides on the mouse, to the level of humidity.
I would really like to purchase equipment to more accurately test dynamic and static friction in future.
But in the meantime, you can check out this interesting test - www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/filp57/20_mouse_pads_tested_for_comparative_static_and/
I've been maining the hien for the last 3 years it definitely IS abrasive but after a period of 6 months - 1 year it will gradually lose texture and speed or develop slow spots depending on how well you take care of it it will last much longer
It's rough feeling but not abrasive to the skin. I don't agree that's its a slow pad, it is faster than hayate otsuV2 , maybe your mouse skates is slow.
@@H3SO88 im using the logitech g pro superlight standard skates on both surfaces. The hien is slower than a razer gigantus v2. The otsu is faster than both. Its not even a comparison. All these reviews are ridiculous. The hien is smooth to the touch. There is no abrasiveness whatsoever. I double checked thst i definitely have a hien and not lets say a zero and the marking on the right bottom is for hien.
@@H3SO88I have the raiden and I been looking for a pad that was very fast like the Razer Strider for the first 2 months i had it. I tried raiden and its not fast as i thought and i dont like the texture. Do you think hien would be like the razer strider speed? Does it slow down quick?
Hey thanks for the Video but i am still confused. I use the Roccat Sense Icon(resin surface) with Corpad Skatez. I feel like this is a more on the faster side. Do you know which Artisan is similar in terms of speed? Thank you very much
How can we get the newer version that has a larger logo like yours? When searching on their website they only show the one that has the older and smaller logo 😢 I'm kinda hesitated to make a purchase because I'm afraid I'm gonna get the old version. Can you help me please? Thank you
If you buy from their official site, you will definitely get the version with the new logo.
they changed it about two years ago, I doubt you can accidentally buy one with the old logo anywhere else, unless it's a used one)
@@sindwelWhat about buying from Amazon? Thank you so much for your reply 😊
@@crimsonclouds1158 I don't know)
You'll have to check with the vendor.
would you say the hayate otsu is the best all-rounder? i'm looking for kind of a compromise between the hien and zero. I play fortnite and rainbow, so i need something that still stop well ater a flick, but has enough speed for easy micro adjustments and tracking with arm aim. The otsu being smooth to the touch is a huge plus and i'm interested
theoretically yes, but I'd suggest looking at the memoria pro like a more safer option
you can look at my review of it
ah and top 5 mousepads, my recent video
@@sindwel I very much appreciate the suggestion and taking time to answer. I'll look into it and watch your other videos too.
@@Chugs4Serotonin You're welcome, buddy)
Let me know if you have any more questions
@@sindwel I watched the top 5 and standalone video. I think the Memoria Pro is exactly what I'm looking for
@@Chugs4Serotonin I hope you like it! btw if you are from europe there is a good sale on it www.maxgaming.com/en/mousepads/memoria-pro-gaming-mouse-pad-blue
how did you wash your zero? im scared of that the soap can damage the glide
you get a new dishwashing sponge
dishwashing detergent (liquid only, without any granules or abrasive additives)
you throw the pad in the bathtub
soak it
sponge it gently
rinse off the soap
lay the pad on a flat surface
wait for it to dry
done)
Any uncoated pad can be cleaned this way
I played Valorant and which mousepad is better ? Hayate otsu or zero (both xsoft)
If it's just between those two, I'd go with zero
Otsu for sure
im using the qck heavy now which one do u think i should get?
zero soft
yeah, I think zero soft is a good choice for you
Which is better hayate otsu or hien ?
The hien will last 3 years and the otsu 8 months.
otsu its more baster than hien
Is Xm2we mouse good with Hien soft? I play with high sens in valorant
I guess youd better look for Zero or Memoria Pro
@@sindwel sorry but can you explain why? I need smoothness and speed, rather than control etc.Can you give me a recommendation for high sens? Does it mean using a slow pad to play with high sens is better?
@@kangkanglim1349 I don't know your level of mouse control.
If it's absolutely perfect, you can play even on a glass pads with no problem.
If not, then you'll be more likely to overshoot on the hien because it seems pretty fast for the first couple months.
That's why I always recommend safer options for valorant
@@sindwel thanks for explaining, Im around Asc3 with 800dpi 0.7 sens, doing accurate flicks and smoothness has been comfortable for me, ofc I won’t say it’s perfect.Usually just play and ignore performance …..I should really try control pads but for now I need one for apex and valo
@@kangkanglim1349 i think hien is good for you i played on the same sensitivity even more i played on 800dpi 0.81 i main pulsar x2h and hien, for me hien is so fast at first but when u played for 2-3 months it'll be on the best conditions or i should recommend u after using it for 3-5 days just wash it, then it'll feel better, bcs for me hien straight from the box is soo fast it almost feels there's coating on it, but if you want to get more smoother and not really like rough texture, i reccomend u to try the hayate otsu mid, xm2we is the best for that i used to main xm1r and endgame mousefeet feelss soo smooth on any mousepad especially artisan
Overwatch would you recomend?
As someone who plays overwatch at top 500, I’d recommend a faster pad such as the raiden or hien.
Raiden is a cloth pad and the hien is textured.
I personally have a soft raiden pad, works great for me.
i play fortnite which would you recommend? i aim with my arm and play mid sens
I think Zero soft is good starting point for you
Which one should I get? I play Call of duty and Valo and sometimes Roblox arsenal. I am thinking of going with the hayate otsu
Hien is a good middle ground but to find what you like you'll have to try multiple. I personally like glidier pads so the Raiden is my go to.
I own an Artisan Hien Mid, but i want more control, i feel like i over aim most of the time, ive a gpx with Tiger Arc gliders too. Should i buy a Artisan Hayate Otsu XSoft. I think that one is the best option for me, i play fortnite, so im making flicks very often, tracking its important too. Thanks for reply, loved the video!
This is a tough question because otsu is very similar in glide to hien. I just think otsu is faster through the break in period and otsu can get slower than hien. But overall they are very similar pads in terms of speed.
Sure xsoft will give you more control, but if you have a habit of pushing the mouse too hard, you might get the opposite effect - under aim.
I would advise you to look at memoria pro as a safer option. (or zero mid if you only want artisan)
Tysm @@sindwel
Nice Video
Thank you!
Veri najs ingliš lejnguiđ maj frend.
nice Video 👌
thanks!
You are missing the shidenkai as well as the hayate kou
yeah I know, I did it intentionally, just because I think it's a controversial and outdated pad, it's not even listed on the site anymore (although you can still buy it if you google it). Artisan should be releasing the second version shidenkai soon, then I will definitely try it out and make a video of it
@sindwel the shidenkai is an awesome pad, I have been using one for a while now and look forward to the next version. I am currently using a raiden xsoft and it is great too. Feels just as fast to me
@@mikerzisu9508 The only thing stopping me from buying a shidenkai was the numerous complaints about rapid wearing out. Overall, this is not surprising, as the pad has an unusual coating.
I hope in the second version they have solved this problem)
All that changes between XSoft and MId is the sponge thickness, please stop saying one's for control and the other for speed. As long as you don't shove your mouse in the mousepad the speed is the exact same
Techicaly yes, but as long as regular user dont have a perfect mouse pressure control then any soft pad gives a better stopping power. Which mean a "better control".
Why are you commenting shit like it’s a fact when you’re blatantly wrong? Do the tiniest bit of research and you’d know that spongier pads are better for control and harder better for speed. Why even comment when you don’t know what you’re talking about
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