What Is A Cult and How Does It Work?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- What Is A Cult and How Does It Work? (Margaret Singer)
By Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph.D., a clinical psychologist and emeritus adjunct professor at the University of California, Berkeley, who counseled and interviewed more than 3,000 current and former cult members, relatives and friends. What is a Cult and How Does it Work? What are cults? How do cults operate? How many people are involved in cults? What are cult leaders' goals and methods? How do cults recruit? What is thought reform? Inside the group. Development of a cult. Pseudoidentity. Returning to the outside world.
This video should be shown in every high school around the world.
Two times per semester! Every year!
The public school system IS a cult
It won’t help unless you also provide them with a solution which noone has.
@@WeRNthisToGetHer indeed.
My family is a cult. I have been kept brainwashed all my life.
This is a family with very good reputation, money, administration from outside world and admiration from the members within towards the leader- my father. I was thinking that I go crazy because of the many years struggling in all areas of my life, struggling with depression, anxiety ect. I need to get good knowledge and clarity around that because otherwise I am lost.
Iva, get in toucheith Doctor Singer I am sure she will give you a great advice as a psicologist she is.
Situations like this are some of the worst because your parents figure who will people believe, you or them. They use those things you listed to dumb down others diacsernment .
Sounds like you need to get away from your family. I’m ex mainstream Mormon and I’ve had to go no contact with my family members who are still in the cult, it was the only way to save my sanity.
@@pedrobarrantes1177 She's dead. Read her books instead.
Yes. There are family cults as well. I have been gaslighted and lied to by my mum. And me and my siblings later joined a religious cult. I suggest you Google the terms "Family cult" and "Emotional Incest", "Golden Child & Scapegoat Child". There are other resources u can find online.
Been there, done that! Self-love prevents cult recruitment and spiritual abuse. Aloha from Kauai.
How society can deal with cults:
1. Encourage survivors to take cult leaders and members to court to be held accountable for their conduct legally.
2. Educate people, especially children, young people and the elderly, on how to think critically and evaluate whether they're being manipulated more effectively.
3. Educate the mental health community on cult-specific trauma and how to best help victims and survivors heal.
This all seems so relevant nowadays.
The first and foremost thing that I appreciate about this video is that IT GETS TO THE POINT AT THE VERY BEGINNING!!!! Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!!!!!
I concur! Wasn’t an hours worth of directionless babble.
I work in customer services and if soneone is about to get angry I tell them what a lovely person they are, works everytime, you're suddenly their best mate. People are easily minipulated.
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Good point but if someone can be so easily swayed by flattery by a stranger the skill must be easily used by minipultive cult leaders.
When she talks about how cult leaders can talk in a slow, rythmic manner to hypnotize their followers and you realize she does that as well XD I've watched this video several times because I find it strangely relaxing.
Wery informative. And helpful. I also watched couple of times. She has these pauses in between.
NLP hypnotics 101
When I was in AA we read the same few things out loud before every single meeting. It was in a monotone voice
She says that too... Now I understand why people told they were sleepy when I did my presentations at my toast Master club... without realizing lower the tone to bring attention.
Yes, that method of speaking can put someone in a trance state. The more relaxed we are, and the more relaxed our minds are, the more susceptible we can be to messages we hear, because we are accessing our brains differently in a more relaxed state. (Normally our brains are in a beta state, but can go into alpha or theta more when we're relaxed. That's my rather minimal knowledge of it, and probably not very accurate. Just a few things I remember from getting biofeedback training.)
Another thing I learned is to never participate in a speaker leading a group in a meditation before the speech/lecture, etc. The meditation or relaxation exercise can make one more vulnerable and susceptible/less critical of what gets said after the relaxation exercise. Since we never know what the speaker is going to say until they say it, it's best not to do the meditation first.
Every single person in the world needs to dedicate an hour of their life to watch this. Although not guaranteed to awaken every person, it might help light a beacon for them to eventually make their way out.
As a former jehovas witnesses
I remember in a conversation where they were talking about recruiting the most vulnerable people that are in hospitals :(
ugh. I believe you.
Former JW here too. Good to see you got out and researching cults like me lol
Lol... That's wicked, terrible. Wow 😣
Absolute LEGEND. Sadly much of what Singer helped expose and illuminate continues today and is fueled online. No longer does a cult member have to be among fellow disciples in a fixed location. Instead many participate in isolation.
Like covid agenda
This happened to me and it wasn't until I spoke it outloud to a qualified therapist that I realized how ABSURD the ideas were and that is when I snapped out of it. I had been just going along with everything because they convinced me in the beginning that I was a chosen person on this spiritual path. They acted like they knew things about me and could help me "in this lifetime". Once I started working for them that is when things really changed. A lot of verbal abuse and put downs. Then misled me as to my role on a project. Had me convinced I was a bad person and that's why I was demoted after doing all of the legwork. They don't argue you to join, they make you feel special and chosen and promise you a lot, including healing and career advancement.
Where was this at? It sounds very similar to my involvement with other Alcoholics Anonymous.
@@auntbeewannabee4626 It wasn't AA it was a spiritual group but all the groups tend to use the same techniques. A classic technique is to devalue you and gaslight you in the beginning but at the same time to love bomb you so that you think they really like you and you belong. Then over time they will errode your belief in yourself and replace it with a total focus on the spiritual "teacher". A true teacher will help you to have a relationship with yourself and with REALITY, not feed you a bunch of lies and beat you down so that you are so confused and insecure you will believe anything
Great Mary you left!
My issue with this video is that "cultism" is throughout our lives; at work, in church, in our schools and clubs. Once we have escaped from a cult it is more plain that it is all around us.
You ain’t wrong. I just left 1 a few weeks ago and now I find myself hiding out but I swear I believe God is hiding me like He hid Elijah in the cave before moving him into his next season. I’m learning so much about myself that I woulda never thought to look at had I not been so deceived.
Hello Beverly, what cult were you in?
lol... suggest you listen it again.. this video is a treasure for those were, are or would have been into...
I have read Singer's book, but have only started this video. In the book, she distinguishes between cults and other forms of influence. I (and she) agree with you in that there are forms of pressure and persuasion, including peer and institutional pressure all around us. It is great that you are keenly aware of these and see them everywhere, although I'm sorry for what sounds like the circumstances that led you to have this greater awareness than the average person. Your awareness and vigilance will protect you going forward from things others will be vulnerable to. I hope you will share your heigtened awareness with others, giving lectures, writing articles or books. Many people would benefit from what you know.
I am part of the Human cult.
I love it when she refers to cult leaders as, "management". LOL. Sorry, I've had horrible experiences with management so this amuses me greatly.
They tell you we are the xyz family... until they kick you, replacing you for an outsource and less expensive labor
A cult can have several leaders. If they split into branches and change their names. Members are unaware they're following the "leader" by following the "group," so they might be in denial about following the leader.
That puts into perspective how in AA I didn’t believe it was a cult. We are branched off into separate groups which are all autonomous except in matters affect the group or AA as a whole.
I had to repost this to my channel. As a former cult member this was so instrumental in understanding what the hell happened to me.
What cult re you i
@@nanciadriani7758
The Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ.
I posted to my channel too! I was in the Jonathan Kleck cult.
I was raised in the Jehovah’s Witness cult, but fortunately my father never converted and I disassociated myself after having attended college, (which is discouraged by the cult), and have been cult-free since 1993. However, I really like to watch videos like this because they remind of where I came from!
@@jovialbivouacker99
Good job!
JUST AMAZING TAPE. This woman is dead on. Tremendous information.
Every $cientologist should watch this.
Their access to all media is extremely controlled mostly by themselves cuz they're told the world is out to get them and all criticism is poisonous to them. So, most of them won't see this type of material until they escape, um, I mean leave.
Yes, indeed! AND every member of the Hole-y Churches of Sciencology, Climatology, Vaccineology, Corporaticracyology... should watch this too.
Every Jehovah witness should watch this
@@lovielove5182 Every Covid-1984 cult member should watch this and give No free-passes to any power, authority and credentials.
@@JaneDoe-zr4px Sounds exactly like the Covid-1984-Cult too, which is more dictatorial, censoring or deadly than certified kool-aid chugging cults.
Seventh Day Adventist’s, Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons this is for you.
And Black Hebrew Israelites!
Traditional Christianity! Because sky daddy isn’t real!
@@dekishajones282 Christianity doesn’t believe in a sky daddy. Rather a God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit. Also how do describe objective laws without God such as morality, how does a singularity come into existence without a cause before the bing bang, and how come there are still no missing links for macro evolution. How does non life bring life which is scientifically impossible. How do you get order from chaos.
The most ironic truth of them all is honestly comedic. It takes just as much faith to believe in a Big Bang as it does for God. So if you’re going to hold Christianity in the view of cult then you also have to do the same to every religious belief about the universe including but not limited to: Hinduism , Buddhism , Judaism, atheism, heck even satanists.
Further more I can prove the Bible is true by using the Bible for the countless prophecies it gets right which mind you is 100 percent of them. Psalms 22 which predicts Jesus death 1,000 years before Jesus and 600 years before crucifixions comes to mind. And gets it 100 percent right.
God bless you and have a great day :)
Scientology, PTA, Apple employees, Microsoft employees, MAGA leaders, etc…
Cults are everywhere
AA
Outstandingly informative. #NPDAbuse #Trauma #BreakingFreeFromToxicPeople
It's just like this. Narcissists and Sociopaths abuse their "victims" just like this.
Very true. In fact all destructive cults are started by highly narcissistic people. They might also be sociopathological or psycho-pathological, but invariably cult leaders are narcissists. Narcissists tend to try to create a tiny 'personality' cult surrounding them, if they do not go into the business of religion.
Yes, they are all narcissists, in fact, they are heavily demon possessed people who run the show from behind the scenes.
When she mentioned being in a trance and driving down the road I thought of someone that was a specific type of main-stream religious preacher ( I want to name it but I chose not to) near where I live who had used that exact experience to validate his belief that joining the religion was the right choice. I almost got wrapped up in this sect due to having close friends that are involved. I went to one of their church services and saw people standing against the walls of the church with their eyes rolling back and mumbling. I understand that there are many people that believe this is from God. I do not. I think the behavior fits the description of this speaker to a T, and I also paid attention to the rhythmic music (same drum beats over and over; the same words over and over) they think they are praising and worshiping God, but to me it seems trance-like especially when newbies and non-members show up they really prolong this to intice them into joining in. The chant she mentions goes along with repeating the same prayer or praise over and over. Then some members end up on the floor as if asleep but all that is a trance state. It feels different, powerful and exhilarating. If you've never felt this before you believe that you've been touched by God and its a sealed deal you will continue to seek this "feeling" and want to continue to be involved in this type of religion. It takes real perception and I think down right honesty to acknowledge there isn't any supernatural God power coming on you its just your own hyped up emotions. Another thing to note about this particular church is they attend services more than any other church I know. There is always a reason they are having services and every service they take up offering. Well how else do they get their four daughters through college and pay for a new church all the while moving into a wealthy neighborhood? Recently several members have left this church and I'm not one bit surprised. A cult? I'm not sure, but they definitely do have very similar characteristics as what I just watched.
Yes, the cult
Thanks to the Lord, stay away. The true love from God is freedom without hurting any one helping others as long they want to be help
This rhythmic pattern seems to be prevalent right across many cult functions. Its very similar to the tribal trance like practices, where this twctoc was used by the tribe. Creating a tribal state ,now your part of the tribe etc
the truth is they still use the same tactics now days...sad how many people are still affected...
Jehovah withnesses are a perfect example of this
vaquero7x ,yes they are,
Definitely. At 8 million plus members, they're a clear demonstration that cults need not be tiny to qualify as a cult.
+HeadShot Films First it was Russell (1874 - 1916, lived long enough to see his 1914 false prophecy fall flat on its face), then it was Rutherford (1916 - 1942, lived long enough to see at least two of their false prophecies fall flat on their faces), then it was Knorr (1942 - 1977, lived long enough to see their 1975 false prophecy fall flat on its face).
Besides, cults can have more than one leader - look at Applewhite who had a co-leader (Bonnie Nettles) for a while before she passed away, leaving him the sole leader once again.
soka gaki is a cult!I was with them for 25 years.It ruined my life.
I am really shocked that so many intelligent people have been brainwashed into believing Disaku Ikeda is a hero. This group is all about power and political control.I am really scared how big this group is now.
Thank you to the Channel
International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA)
for the open availability to this information.
Thank you DR this is a real eye opener I just wish we could get LOST people to listen. GOD BLESS YOU.RUDY.
This is such a great video. AA has so many of these traits . Thank you for releasing this.
Well ironically the same tactics that put people into cults can also be used to get them out of such behaviors as well. It's not just the tools, but who's wielding those tools and their motivation/intentions of using those tools. Pls go watch the movie Fight Club if you've never seen it before. He'll, go watch it again even if you have watched it before.
AA is a cult. Yes.
AA is finally falling apart
@@matthewrousseau2982 good to hear .
Monica Richardson: Could you show/prove this claim, please? Do you distinguish between the spread of wrong practises and misconceptions of some members , and what others can take up as though ir ´t were the program, and what the program itself really stands for? I have noticed a decline since the cell-phones came (Sweden has extra strong microwave radiation with detrimental effects on people. I see it as an infiltration of the adversary of man, which comes when exhais0usted participants uncritically take things aúp as being apart of the program, while it is not. Just as sponsorship has declined into takingf short-cuts leading to lesser levels and qualitites of recovery.
I'd really welcome it if you could name and show how you think when you claim AA to be a cult. Some people also accuse everybody with some problematic behavoíours to be "narcissists", not distinguishing what that entails.
35:40 on the timeline -Cults often change members names - “Henceforth, you shall be known as Lord Darth Vader”
Like every cult leader he met his demise.
This is gold.. GOLD !
This is so educative
Wow! So familiar...the 6th condition for thought reform, "Maintaining a closed system of logic and restricting criticism."
Thank you so much! This interview is opening my mind.
this video deserves to be watched by millions of people
This is the first time I hear someone talking about this type of meditation outcome. I had been practising meditation for two months then, and it came easier to me than most people. At some point I realised I didn't need solitude, relaxing music or even comfort - I couldn't shake it off on public transport when I definitely didn't want to drift away mentally. I stopped it all cold turkey and tried to avoid any triggers like a recovering alcoholic avoiding old buddies and parties. It's very easy for me to imagine what this lady says about people needing to stop their car and come to senses. Those Hindu people meditating for months and years - it's not enlightenment but rather a form of narcolepsy.
Cults prey on the weak and worship the strong with envy.
Really found it informative, I was wondering about why people join cults and have my doubts about this modern fad for mindfulness? Missed my opportunity to study cults when studying sociology as the lecturer moved to another university.
Never too late... I am one of them learning although quite late...
Jehonah withnesses are a perfect example of this
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DID YOU MEAN JEHOVAH?
@@latonyasmith683 Yes they did, and it is. Stay away...
@@bclean77 You won't have to tell me I just left this cult after 25 years! I found out they'v been hiding pedophiles and a whole host of other bad things they are keeping hid from their followers!!
Wow, the conditioning/disconnecting phase was eye opening - acquiring new a name and speaking new jargon so members feels special and while wearing a pseudo identity mask. No wonder those cultish recruits sound weird/alien when you first encounter them. It’s a facade. It’s all fake!
When Dr. Singer talked about keeping cult members “busy” and taking up their “thinking time” with the church activities for a greater purpose, I immediately thought of Scientology.
IMHO, everything Dr. Singer says here also applies to (emotional and/or physical) abusive family dynamics and relationships. Instead of a cult of many, it is a cult of a few people ( mostly family and lovers.)
I agree, this info has to be available for middle school, high school, higher education students, staff, employees, and parents.
Moreover, yes, research a group/person before joining them. Also, trust your instincts. If it feels “off,” IT IS OFF! Say “No,” and never give them your contact information. That is how I managed to dodge them.
If I would have listened to this in the 1980's instead of falling for Scientology I would have saved a lot of time. In my opinion she describes what I went through exactly. Now after having left and processed much of my experience, I can similarities among all cultish groups. Including organized religion, sorry Christianity, you are in there too.
Agree Doug, mainly in cristianity depends where we go...I love to be catholic, but it doesn't me Yes Sir to all priests nuns, or other catholics friends. We are free to believe or disbelieve.
Important comment here. Thanks. Glad you’re free of Scientology. All the best!
She is great and knows what she is talking about. They are predator's they hunt for the vulnerable. They love people pleasers anyone who likes attention and needs validation from others.
Explains why they target treatment centers and jails to recruit AA members
You hit the nail on the head !!!
I just started listening and was immediately struck by how simplistic her explanations seem to be. Cults are formed by interpersonal dynamics by which some subordinate others in self-reinforcing dependency. She mentions one way that some cults have used, and in fact it's an increasingly obsolete way, as followers slowly get more sophisticated and don't respond to some of the more transparent tactics that were used in the late 20th Century. When was this filmed?
Millard, were you listening? Just the definition she gives n the first sentence, let alone the first paragraph explains the bulk of it. The rest is defining the minutiae. If it seems simplistic, it may, MAY, be because it is outside the conversational tone of the cult. The cult that you are still in. Or started. Have joined since you were 22. Don't know (not that you're in or running a cult). She is speaking from beyond the grave, and only the master and youtube can stop it.
Millard Melnyk The APA thought the same thing when they threw out her paper on Cult Brainwashing - " the report lacks the scientific rigor and evenhanded critical approach necessary for APA imprimatur."
+ty whatley, I note your facetiousness. It's unwarranted. And it just may be that her description is simplistic.
Hey Steve, sorry I missed your comment. Don't pay enough attention to Google+ I guess.
Really eh? I'm not surprised. Thanks for the info.
+Steve Anderson They later reconsidered and modified their view. At the time, certain elements - from the military to evangelical faith healers, plus the richer Destructive Cults themselves - were panicked over this information and exerted their influence. The information is nonetheless true today, and it was true then.
The bigger question that is never asked is why are there so many cults is it just for the leaders benefits and is it for the benefit of other social actors.
You say the former cult leader was surprised at how easy it was to manipulate people who had been rebellious in their youth. A lot of youth "rebel" by joining a rebellious group. Perhaps they see joining a cult as a similar act of rebellion against main-stream society. Perhaps their adherence to crazy rules is driven by their need to be seen in a good light by the person/people at the top and to raise their status in the group.
New age/self transformation ideas such as tarot, belief in magic/wicca are at high popularity lately, and are being linked to the higher rates of cultist behavior. It's almost as if human's natural socialization instincts to try to fit in makes them vulnerable to joining cults that will accept them. This is why cults prey on those who are most emotionally/psychologically vulnerable.
Those things are also satanic and the doorways for demons to possess you.
Religion and government fit these descriptions.
For example, reconciliation is used for spying. "Recon" in reconciliation is simply reconnaissance, just like the NSA.
Margaret Thaler Singer's book, Cults in Our Midst is excellent. I woke up from the Jehovah's Witnesses cult.
I was raised a Jehovah's Witness and among other things I was taught to give literature("hope") to mourning families. In an attempt to convert them in their weakened state. Thankfully I never succeeded but know this is one of their more successful recruiting tactics.
"The mind gives meaning to anything, but the meaning it gives is meaningless." J. Krishnamurti
I used to really like Jiddu, then I learned that he was taken by an older gentleman who was a Freemason and tailored into the man he was. In effect Jiddu was groomed from a very young age to be the man who thought the way he did. Not that there isn't some value in his learnings, teachings, I'm just a bit suspicious how he came to think that way.
@@dontbelieveeverythingyouth8173 JKM was raised as a young boy by Annie Bessant (Theosophical Society) to become the new messiah. You are right, there was a man involved. But during his early teens he rebelled and decided he wanted nothing to do with their crazy ideas. That's how I heard it anyway. And really, what does it matter who influenced him? He ended up with some pretty clear insights into the human mind.
I'm losing my daughter and grandson to a Ayhuaskah cult. My heart is broken, don't know what to do, only staying in prayer and trying to keep a bridge available should she see the light and chooses to leave.
What kind of ayahuasca cult?
Santo Daime @@johnphilipashton
@@Daisytoo in my experience santo daime is not a destructive cult.
Could that be because you're in it? @@johnphilipashton
@@Daisytoo no, i am not. I was a student in a university course on the history of ayahuasca churches in Brazil (Santo daime and unio de vegeta). In my understanding they are recognised religious churches by the brazilian government and protected by the religion freedom restoration act in Brazil. They use ayahuasca as a sacrament. I have not seen evidence that Santo daime show signs of being a destructive cult. What makes you feel that santo daime is a destructive cult?
This type of manipulation can be done by anyone to a type of person that was described as being vulnerable. The separation from family and people who will advise you right is a gold medal usage.
I'm having no problem finding explanations as to how people get sucked in. What's hard to find is why cults form in the first place. Not all cult leaders set out to form cults. Jehovah's Witnesses didn't start out that way. But since 2014 the WatchTower organization has shown very rapidly its cultiness so even insiders are starting to see it. It's almost an organic process.
i had seen groups of sincere people become incresingly cultish over time.. i think that at times these things can develop and people dont even realize whats happening, including the leaders.
Wow you are talking about the Catholics and the Pope.
Please elaborate... Catholics don't worship the Pope, they worship God. The Pope is here to remind us of the precepts of God's words and His tradition that were given by Jesus Christ himself.
Cults are completely different. They will recruit someone by isolating the person for "bible studies" (so not group studies since they want the victim under strict surveillance). They will proceed with psychological torment under the mask of excessive niceness. And before you know it, it's too late.
@@SoftHana I think he's talking about how Catholicism especially in Europe is super controlling and restrictive much like Mormonism.
@@RollerOfEyes Sorry Catholics are not totalitarian,members are not deceptively recruited,they are not elitist,they dont lie to the public. Catholics can disagree with the Pople,Catholics dont isolate members from non members,Catholics can leave with their dignity in tact.John Macmillan wasnt listening.
jehowas witnesses match perfectly
Yup, they are!
Brought here because of Simon Crowder's interview with Alex Jones and I am glad because it is so obvious these tactics are being used today in America!!
It's a huge problem how people try to do you in this world
A few years ago, I joined a hospice as volunteer. I had no idea it was run by a cult. I was at a Christmas party when I expressed interest in the names of several people there. Their leader gave them their names. One supplied me with the name of their organization. I googled it and quit on the spot.
Thnx. This is so sad
Had to split at her definition of the difference between an organized religion and a cult. Organized religion does exactly the same thing as what she says a cult does: you turn over your decisions and beliefs (and a lot of money) to them. And there is always an intermediary between you and "God", always. So basically, she's not anyone I want to listen to.
As much as I dislike religion in general, I do think there's a difference between your every day, run of the mill religion and something destructive and overtly malicious as a destructive cult like she's talking about. Standard Christianity wants roughly 10% of your pay. It's up to you whether you pay up, and you can show up on Sunday or not... You can leave when you want to - there may be a bit of emotional manipulation, but it's usually not a top down thing. Then you look at say Scientology (I live about 30 min from their HQ in California so I have friends who've gotten mixed up with them, including one who was kept in RPF against his will), that wants all of your time, all of your money, it wants to control how you use words, when you can see your family, and in some circumstances - like a friend of mine - they'll physically stop you from leaving and will stalk and try and destroy you. A normal Christian church isn't the same. In my opinion it's all nonsense (let that atheist flag fly proud lol) but at least the standard Christians won't try and cut you off from your family or send someone to kidnap you, stop you from leaving your home, or stand just off of your property with a video camera to try and intimidate you whenever you step outside.
Of course things like the Catholic church are intensely corrupt, but there are always going to be bad eggs in every basket and if you have a group as large as the Catholic clergy, you're bound to have some in there that do bad things. I still think it's legitimately different in that they do have humanitarian efforts and they do have the ability to leave whenever they want without repercussions aside from maybe a loss of job and living space if they happen to also work for and depend on the church, but they're not cut off from society. They can re-enter and usually be fine.
+EmileeArsenic the only real difference is the amount of control they have over each individual.
Mortato Doesnthaveasurname Right, and that's what I think she was getting at. She's talking about destructive cults in particular, not just cults vs religion.
I do agree that all religions are cults. They match certain definitions, but there are malicious and benign cults, as well as cults of different sizes and styles. After that, it's sort of just word choice based on connotation. Calling certain ones by different titles are just pointing to different areas under the same umbrella. They're all cults, it's just arranging them by damage potential and likelihood instead of membership numbers or some other criteria. Kinda like deciding to call one type of big ocean-dwelling black and white mammals Orcas or killer whales instead of just whales. Orcas are still whales, you're just being more specific. Then it's deciding whether to call them Orcas or Killer Whales depending on what connotation you want to give. Calling them Orcas doesn't remove them from being under the whale umbrella, but it does give a more peaceful mental image than calling them Killer Whales.
There is not always an intermediary between you and God in organized religion. If you are free and not in a cult, you are free to be like, this pastor doesn't know God well, and not listen to much of what he says/use discernment/or change churches. If you're under a cult though, which Roman Catholocism seems to be to a degree, for example, then the priests are seen as a representation of God, which is how they get away with sexually abusing so many children. And they try to "handle it" internally, which means the priests aren't held responsible under the law.
Organized religion is a word to legitimate. It's still a cult.
I can't help but think of early Islam, when I listen to this...
Highly informative.
400 people,in Grand Rapids home for veterans are in exactly this situationn.
I think I now understand why Jesus had to go away when He resurrected, He could have stayed and personally clarify all the doubts. But if He did not go away how would the gospel reached the ends of the world?, I guess not. Who would preach the gospel when those who have come to know Him would not want to leave His presence?, and would desire to be always in the "front seat"? Even fans stalk their idol celebraties. But then the problem comes when the "hearer" lack the desire to really know Jesus (through the bible), and depend solely on the pastors. And unfortunately, the pastors, believing that the perpetuity of the church depend on them, MAY out of the burden of responsibility which can lead to manipulative arrogance may twist the truth either by instilling fear to prevent them from disassociation, or teach "good things" to have happy captives. I hope the other pastors won't be emotionally manipulated to do the same. I hope they will continue to speak the truth and let everyone who wants to get out because they don't want to change but guilt is pestering them. At least they are given a chance to one day repent and come back to God because they knew what is the truth about sin. For Jesus Himself said that He will not acknowledge all who call Him Lord.
God gave us freedom.. and many fanatics do not undetstand that...
Sometimes it’s not secrets of the past or secrets of the future that a cult leader promises if you hand over all decision making of your life to them, sometimes it’s the promise of protection, love, provision, a sense of family etc. which is all false of course, but that is the promise the insinuate so long as they can have total control of your life.
True. That goes into what she implied about the reasoning for joining being incentive based which in turn gives way to a works based cult.
I studied this is school.
There seems to be quite a few cuts to the film that make it tricky to follow her talk.
I just want a higher education wherever it leads me.
What if academia behaves like a cult? They modify behavior through the grading system. Not always in the best direction.
Great explanation!
Thank you. I was a member. In the worldwide church of God. My mother went it when I was a kid later to be followed in byy sister than me. If you were a member you couldn't date marry or divorce out of it. I married man who mentally emotionally and spiritually abused me. I left that church after 23 years in it. My ex is still in ity daughter thinks I'm crazy cause I got PTSD and went through a major depression and because her dad tells her this. And she believes his present wife is stupid and crazy because her says so. I have taken so much abuse then and still it never stops. I'm the back of my mind I always thinking that the church told us that we would be destroyed and they would turn us over to Satan for our own good to bring us back so amy thing bad happens this is always present been out for over 30 years still getting abused by ex and son in law and daughter
Then there's the "let's take our sweet time with this one" tactic. "Hey John, are you into playing basketball? Oh great, me and the guys just love playing basketball (or whatever they find out behind your back - that you're into) - hey, why don't we get together this Saturday for a game? OK Great" This continues innocently for about say - 6 months (until the target's defenses are way down) then they slowly start introducing "the real agenda." Hey John, there's this other group me and the fella's go to - you should come check it out. "
And the one that wins the gold medal in patience ...
The "Venus Fly Trap" tactic - the recruiters (on the down low) join someone else's group (usually one where people are trying to find themselves or are exploring some-self-development topic). So the group they've joined may have the best of intentions but these new members aren't really with that They're faking it.. In essence, they just plant themselves there - like Venus fly traps - waiting for any other new members that arrive that are searching for something - and they re-route them to their group "You, now I may just have the thing for you"
... Remember that I said that one of the groups may have honest intentions about helping you with self-development?
One of those is "colleges" - yes, in those classrooms may be other "students" who are "faking it."
They went through the two or four year whole registration process - and still have been planted by outside groups to recruit and really couldn't care less about their major (no matter how good their grades are)- all for appearances.
The outside group probably has a little rented space (out of sight - a few flights up) in a nearby commercial office building that they're operating out of.
Gratitude training
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AA fits most of these principals.
AA has no central authority, no cult leader, doesn't pressure anyone for $, but other than that yeah, it's just like that. And I am Marie of Roumania.
@@whatifounddowntherabbithol5254 but many cult experts agree that not all cults have a central leader. Though I would say AAs in Bill Wilson. They even make trips to visit Akron Ohio. Aa definitely is a cult. I was in it and it took me a while to de program.
art of living,osho,asharam bapu, shahi baba are some of the indian based cults
What about sadhguru?
This video helped. Didn't quite understand. I was vulnerable. People some how pick up on that. Interesting psudo memories. Mix fact with fantasy discernment. Doubt your self. They are always right. I'm the sinner. Didn't pray enough. Wasn't obedient enough. Always wrong. Doubt your self. Blame. Shame. Therapy helped. Gently taught critical thinking. Caused me to question false belief and weird Bible interpretation. Took years. Still wounded. Destroyed family. But it is ok. They were abusive too. At one point councilors hypnotized me. Helped. Tormented by OCD type thought. Still hurts but ok
so multiply everything you've said times the use of God's powerful force. DANGER DANGER EVERYWHERE.
The description has many fellow traits with today's psychiatry, healthcare and social security. Not as what they profess to be, but get one to self-disclose by seeming kindness and calm care together with exploiting their reputation with the general population and one's good faith, wishhful thinking and blind faith. As young, I talked with Scientology, got their test to look at, and knew from the way the Qs were made at once, that they could interpret in issues and need of correction/therapy in any answer in anybody. It makes me sad and hurt that some people who don't like the 12-step program claim it to be a cult. One must distinguish antipathy and incompatibility from negative , bad things like cults or narcíssists. Things are not cults or narcissists because you don't like them or it us not like the ordinary society.
The human being seems to have an attraction to being led, a craving for a simple, mechanical belonging to a group and be free from the lonely and lost self, and there might be people in f ex AA succumbing to their own craving to exchange their obsessed, addictive attachment for a kind of attachment, unhealthy automatisation of the group's meeting structure. This does not mean that the program itself is about it. People can mechanically speak of gratitude, owning faults, or expressing appreciation of the program and tell of personal progress. This does strengthen the group, but should not be done for any other reason than natural and spontaneous, really self-willed ones. Some individuals of a 12-step program can spread such unfree overtones which one easily takes on as misconceived part of the program, being very tired, lost and down and wanting rest, simplicity, peace and healing. But the program itself has no cultish ingredients. No money invólved, no leaders that get powerful. One wrong thing happening in reality though, is the spread of the false idea that one must follow one's sponsor's suggestions. It clearly says in the book that this is not the case.I'd say it is a good thing if the addictive,csick self-will is strong and if the sponsor is healthy, grounded, integrated enough and of good judgment to not abuse of power in any way. People behaving in certain ways and them floating around in a group, does not mean they belong to the group or program. It is up to the members to not fall into such automatic ideas and blind following. Waking up from that can be a part of healing. This can be seen as one drawback with it ot having leaders. but also a golden chance to establish a true God-relation. to co-work with the higher power, the higher God-connected self.
world mission society church of god is one.....
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Woo'd: "Master, I've attained Nirvana"
TrollArtist: "no bruh, that's hypoglycemia"
Not even one person should be in a cult and they shouldn’t even call it a cult they should call it predators. This is a free country not a country that should encourage cowards and followers of any person. It’s not religion as religion doesn’t dictate cults dictate and just the thought of following anyone that way is just beyond creepy every cult needs to be investigated and prosecuted accordingly in a free country that’s not free following some random people in a group cults aren’t families their dangerous and harm people in serious ways
*I agree!*
THE GOOD NEIGHBOR MEGA SHELTERING
Cult, Is the mind of a evil individual looking for power and control.
It harms the mind and the spirit and often injured the body as well.
Is a violation of the laws of society and is total opposition to the teaching of the Savior.
The Lord condemns abusive behavior in any form, physical,sexual,verbal, or emotional.
Psalm 10:4
The wicked, through the pride of his countenance,will not seek offer God: God is not in all his thoughts.
Condemns not the things of God for the choices of humanity.
People,a psychic vampire ,Pete Burris,became a Hollywood movie star by giving me LSD and taking me to see the Exorcist and then,tricked me into raising the Kundalini.I won disability from this so it may have been a worthwhile trade off.I became a guitarist too.
So i made all this up? Ive been posiend with water, shocked with electricity and had my job tooken away for there so called therapy. Been used by the program for there little program to keep going. They say its to help you but come on its been 5 years and im still going threw this psychology. I know im right. Manipulate me but my past 5 years shows what you have done to my life
"Tranced out".... love that phrase.
Thanks
Falun Gong, especially Shen Yun Performing Arts Academy who has a base in small village Cuddebackville, are living in the forest. this is something like monastery. inside there everyone is forcing to reading totally piece of nonsense book, every day per at least an hour with group. and nobody ask you what do you think about it. just reading (brain washing) they are doing also exercises as well.
the atmosphere inside there is like in deep prison, exactly like in North Korea, no one trust no one. You can not speak with girls, women, because this is bad :) I think they probably don't know what is the real reason of it but the reason is simple. to keep all of they far far away, to have no any relationship. to be like a vegetable then their mind is more clear and easier to manipulate.
the Shen Yun Performing Arts Orchestra and their tournee is based exactly on this rules. low budget, amateurs dancers, horrible singers and all what you can see on the stage shows not 5000 of Chinese civilization but only political secta propaganda of falun gong.
please go on Yelp and check all the opinions comments, you will be in shock.
I am really sick of the Shen Yun ads on UA-cam.
Jim Jones was a Marxist revolutionary and he preached social justice. Just sayin.
International Christian Churches, this is for you
Universe is Infinity we all know that. We want the life what we want to. Just We Think Very complicated so Negative is Place reality we want
Sounds like Mormonism to me🤔
What are the mantras or chants they use?
They can be anything, what's important, the activation agent, seems to be the rhythmic flow of the chant.
Used this video to start my own cult .thanks
Shame on you!
Most religions are sort of culty ... people need that because they are scared "SH it less of life "
Most religions dont recruit deceptively
"TART PEOPLE ARE NO FUN!" MOVE ON. BE HAPPY.
Margaret’s take doesn’t necessarily fit the current mainstream media’s definition of a cult.
It doesn’t have to be started by a single leader, not necessarily about “secrets”, or letting anyone make your decisions for you, etc.
The coercion & abuse parts (the important parts) are still there though.
Hi Juana Amigo, tell us what she is missing then?
Covid 2020
Cult of covid
🔸Every person in Alcoholics Anonymous should watch this🔸
See also overeaters anoymous and all 12 step programmes
Technically, when defining the word “cult”, I don’t think you should use the term “cultic”.
David Conn Jonestown
Cult leaders/ handlers will have these people doing all kinds of things for the so called cult.
Well said. Past lives are DNA chains from our ancestors. GOOD and BAD. YOU ARE WHOM YOU ARE NOW; TODAY. JOY CLUB NEWS THANKYOU.
there is a theory which proposes experiences are captured in the DNA and transferred to the next generation. It a intent to explain why a person says I have been here in my past life.. and the person can discribe rooms on an old house in another country without entering there