Modified 1980s Fiat Panda 4x4 // The Late Brake Show
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Welcome to another Car Caves drive episode, where The Late Brake Show explores people's interesting car dens. Jonny chooses one car to take for a spin - this time a modified 1980s Fiat Panda 4x4. In episode 2 we visited Alton in Hampshire, where Vernon Hibberd possesses a Fiat Panda fetish for Fiat Pandas, especially the 4x4 model - the go-anywhere '80s Giugiaro mountain goat.
Vernon has 10 4x4s and a total of 30 Pandas - many of which live in his 'Panda pen' basement storage area beneath a barn. Sadly, we didn't have a huge amount of time to drive the car in between filming the basement and workshop full of Fiats, not enough for some decent off-roading action, however, Jonny managed to enjoy some town, country and back track driving in this modified 1986 mk2 4x4.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
2:20 Meet Vernon
2:43 tech spec
3:50 He owns 10 Panda 4x4s
5:05 Austrian 4wd system
7:08 Leaf spring rear suspension
7:20 Mk1 came out in 1983
12:55 Offroad cars don't have to be luxurious
13:26 GOING OFFROAD
#fiatpanda4x4 #fiatpandaoffroading #fiatpandasisley - Авто та транспорт
As a Defender 90 owner I absolutely love the 4x4 panda. Even the new one has a certain appeal. (And the Jimny.)
With so many Battery Barges around is easy to forget that big isn’t alway clever! Small is beautiful , a Defender 90 is shorter than a BMW i3!
TLBS is so refreshing. Showing us exactly what we didn’t realise we needed. Jonny’s enthusiasm, irrespective of what he shares with us is unlimited and shows us how much passion is out there for everyday vehicles. Thank you Jonny, and your team. Going independent is something we shall be eternally grateful for. Crack on!
Well said!
I have a series 2 landrover.
Has a Holden 202 cubic inch Aussie 6 cylinder conversion..
I annoy the crap out off the owners of the new 4x4 suv and pickup drivers on a 4x4 trip.. I can go further than they can.. with no bullshit tech.. and only need a simple toolbox..
I agree with you about the new Panda and Jimmy. Went out I'm a Panda and there was a Disco 2 in convoy with us. Both cars went all the same places without needing a tow.
Of course the Disco is far more spacious and if needs be could have toward the Panda. The Panda wouldn't have towed a Land Rover but then for most people that won't be an issue.
@@13Pandam t
You'd probably enjoy Hubnut if you're a fan of the ordinary and mundane.
My favourite part about these videos is knowing that people like Vernon exist. His garage is full of gems and none of them are 300k Porsches, but I respect his work and enthusiasm even more than the guys with million pound garages.
Totally agree mate....
@@mraidymaddful Ditto.
In the late 80’s my secondary school headmaster had a 4x4 Fiat Panda. We all knew as kids, if it snowed he would still make it in to school, which meant the school stayed open. Damn you Fiat with your ever so good 4x4 Panda, you stopped a lot of snow days….
Hahahaha ours has a bloody Subaru 4X4 the git and we never got snow days either...
You're 100% on-point about the ski resort part.
I had the scariest drive of my life in one of these awesome little machines.
Was in ski boots and hitching a lift in the French alps. A tiny French girl who looked about 16 pulled up in an old & rusty Panda 4x4. I threw my skis on the roof rack jumped in and off we went.
Jesus, I've never been so petrified in all my life. We probably weren't going all that fast, but there was no slowing down for the bends. And these were hairpin bends with 500ft drops off the sides on icy mid-Feb alpine routes. Thankfully the skinny tyres stuck to the road like glue.
This girl must have chain smoked about three cigs on our way up the mountain. After I got out I needed one as well. I was in such a befuddled state I even forgot to ask for her number.
Your loss and some other chaps gain. Were they those rather distinctive "Frog" ciggies?
The crucial missing part to this story is whether she was hot....(please say she was!)
@@edwardfrench9925 probably in excess of 95% of young women in and around French ski resorts are hot.
...so the answer is yes.
@@DEADB33F hot and handy with a car...I bet you’re kicking yourself
One of the funniest things I have ever seen was a Panda 4X4 pulling a brand new (at the time) Range Rover Vogue out of a muddy puddle. The RR owner had zero idea about off road driving and still had road tyres on it. The RR Zdriver sat behind the wheel looking very meekish. The Panda driver was desperately trying not to laugh. I wish we had camera phones st the time.
Mate, here in Australia. Back in 1978, a mate had a New Suzuki 4x4 with 3 cylinder two stroke..
Went on a 4x4 weekend away.. We drove straight past a Range Rover. Stuck on a muddy hill.. that had to be winched up..
4x4 is simplicity not the tech crap we have now..
@@graemejohnson9025 yep. Light, small and simple everytime.
@@graemejohnson9025 . Same with the little Subaru's hatchbacks. In the 80's, a mate had a 4X4 who spent half the winter dragging Chelsea Tractors out of muddy fields at local gymkanas. lol
@@grayfool g'day mate from land down under..
I have a mate with original 3 cylinder 2 stroke Suzuki first 4x4.. we go on 4x4 tours with it.. surrounded by Landcruisers, 4x4 pickups, Range Rovers.. with all the 4x4 technology installed..
Deep mud puddle we just drove past.. and spent a lot of the time, taking winch cable to a tree.. oh we also used "bugger all petrol " over the weekend.. and did bugger all damage to environment, not like a 3 ton 4x4 Tractor..
@@curmudgeon1933 mate. From land down under..
Only wankers buy a Range Rover.. simple survives in the outback.. not some bullshit hi tech electronic crap..
My landie 2. Still plugs along..
This channel is taking too long to have the millions subs it deserves. Keep going.
Many thanks. We’ll get there 👍🏻
@@TheLateBrakeShow 4 guarantees in life: tax, death, borescoring on a 996 and the LBS getting 1M subs
@@TheLateBrakeShow genuinely couldn’t agree more. Same for Smith & Sniff
Had a 81 Fiat 127. The manual gearbox seemed to choose its own gears wherever you swung the stick. All good choices tho. Massive fun.
@@TheLateBrakeShow You could put the Mitsubishi hybrid rear motor only above the gearbox with a transfer box to the 4x4 gearbox and put a few Hybrid batteries from BMW/VW where the 4 banger used to live and some in steel box underneath and keep the 4x4 running gear(drive shaft above battery box)... :):)
The want is strong!
"Stripped back, simple". We need more car makers with that design ethos. Modern cars are just too expensive, too complicated and too fragile. With electric drivetrains and modern materials, amazing things could be achieved.
Another lovely episode, thanks Jonny.
A friend used to have one when they came out. He loved it. I really like narrow cars, modern vehicles are so wide it often means queuing to pass parked cars in roads where 30 years ago you could just drive through with someone coming in the other direction. Very interesting channel - thank you.
This is the most amazing tribute I’ve ever seen to a Panda 4x4 🎉
i have a 1982 panda 45 and i love it so much, it's so fun to drive and the packaging is brilliant, the car is very small but i never felt like it's small inside. love that thing
Ahhhhhh was looking forward to a proper off road section that never came
Didn’t have the time, huge apologies. Gives an excuse to do another video though. Maybe this Vs our Jimny...?
@@TheLateBrakeShow a four way including the newer and older pandas and the newer and older jimnys would be a blast to watch!
@@rishi-m With Plato and Neal in two of them!
@@drawwithdan5821 oh indeed that'll be cool! I don't watch the telly anymore, but will surely bring back some old Fifth Gear vibes!
Yeah me too sat eagerly anticipating the off road section that never came great video but it would have better if it was 12 min of reviewing it off road and then a min or so covering its 2 wheel functionality on the road. It is a Panda 4x4 after all.
Fiat Panda 4x4's are the motoring equivalent of the mouse that roared 😉
I'm from the UK.
Worked out in France for a while, not
many vineyards that didn't have one of these knocking about.
Top car!
The real question is Jonny, has Sade ever owned a 4x4 Panda?
I bet she had a Sisley at her Ski chalet
Similar Panda took me all the way to the Sahara in 1990 and it never skipped a beat... it left other 4x4 for dust in the sand but I did miss air con ...
I had one of these. Surprisingly good off road
I bet you did Alan.
Mountain goat is a perfect description, used to be immensely popular in Austrian and Italian alps! Would love to have one of those!
I love Pandas... When I just finished school, those were used to deliver Meals on wheels and as run around for public services. After school a lot of school friends denied the service in the army and had to do a 1.5 year stint at public services. So of course there were races, Pandas 1000 and 850 class, rumours said that the Seat version was slightly faster. I now live in Switzerland and in those remote Mountain villages 4x4 Pandas are still used and a common sight. Because of the abilities, not for the lack if funds.
my first car was a tatty old navy blue Panda 4x4 back in 1990 with lots of rust but even more character. Loved it, took me all over the country on climbing adventures for 3 years (even though at one point only one front brake caliper worked!). The hammock rear seat was actually comfortable to sleep in if it was too grim to bivvy. Adventures and memories. Rust killed it in the end
aww i miss my old fire engine panda. Was great as cambelt snapped twice and just put a new one on and away it went (first time I didn't change the water pump as that's what took both belts).
Brilliant little car. The world needs more of these.
Had one of those for myself an entire holiday in the Alps... epic!
'If you haven't watched the video...' Don't be silly Jonny, we've seen it
Yup and we already know he is craving for a MK1 Panda 4x4.
He 's hooked and can't live further without one.😁
My car 🚗 for the last 17 years. And still going strong. From the Dolomite Alps to the Po Valley, from the city to the Adriatic Sea. Auto of choice!
Great episode!
My retired friend in the french Alps has one that I went for a ride in. They live on the side of a mountain and he casually took us up and down what looked like a graded scrambling route full of loose rocks. No problem for the little panda.
He and a bunch of his mates are also part of a Steyr Puch/ pinzgauer group. The latter are very impressive military spec off roaders. He took me for a ride in that too: we were going to join others at a mountain refuge high up the mountain for evening drinks then head home so we didn't bring anything with. We were crawling up these loose, steep tracks and suddenly a thunderstorm came upon us- biblical lightning and lashing rain. Not to mention it was now getting dark, the pinzgauer hesitated and stalled. It wouldn't turn on again.. we were at least an hour up and still had about 40 mins to go and nothing around but trees and lightning. Somehow he managed to get the engine to splutter into life and we nursed the temperamental pinz up to the refuge, by which time it was pitch dark and the others were getting ready for bed! We decided we would have to stay the night with them and I had to stuff newspaper down my socks and up my t shirt for warmth as I hugged myself lying on the table next to the fire. Good times!
1984 my wife and I moved from Minnesota to Sweden. Knowing what cars cost in Sweden (and Europe) we bought a 1984 Toyota Tercel SR5 - the one with a six speed transmission and selectable 4 wheel drive and put it in the 40' container together with all our stuff. We put 100K miles on it in six years driving around Europe and sold it in December '90 as we were moving back to the US. We actually got our money back and more.:) Six years on the west coast of Sweden and NO rust! Great car.
I should add it was a wagon - and it also had the inclinometer...:)
Nice one Johnny, now I’m searching classifieds for Panda 4x4’s 🤣
You and several dozen others John. 👍🏼
Northern Italy is still crawling with them despite being out of production for 18 years, it seems to be one of the few Italian cars of that era whose population wasn't decimated by the Italian scrappage scheme !!
Yup, I live in Turin, and they make so much sense here.
Just remembered, a teacher in senior school had a 'Sisley' one of these. Very cool (although only I thought so at the time) and stood out in the staff car park.
WOW, that's a name i haven't heard in a LONG time!
Gotta love 1980s Fiats. My girlfriend at the time (about 1989) wanted a car to get her to and from St Thomas hospital in London (before they sold the parking spaces to the accountancy firm across the road) and we went to look at a Fiat Uno. She absolutely fell in love with it, and it was SO easy for me to fix (it was later to be replaced with a Peugeot 205 which was also easy to fix - the girl had good taste!)
I've been a fan of Fiat cars for years, had Uno, Puntos, Grande Punto, Bravos, now drive a Focus but decided I wanted an older Fiat as a keeper / classic and went for a 100HP (Mk3), after seeing this wished I'd gone down the 4x4. I'm loving Vernon's cave, the MK1 GT Punto is just lovely. Keep up the good work Jonny, really loving the channel, now stop being a slacker and crack on with your own cars instead of skiving off round to see other peoples!
Vernon is amazing. The car is amazing. Like the 2CV, it isn’t embellished with needless crap, designed to impress. Love the simplicity of it so much. A lot of 4x4 Pandas had ‘Sisley’ on them... what was that I wonder? Awesome video Jonny!
Sisley is or was a clothing sub brand of Benneton group.
They were a special edition. However, it wasn't very special as it was so popular, Fiat made it an option for the 4x4 for the rest of the Panda's production. They had metallic paint and a inclinometer. Posh.
What a lovely car .. A webasto sunroof would finish it off for me :) Another great vid Mr Vert ..
I used to have one with the twin sunroofs - it was brilliant!
I remember many many years ago when I was younger getting stuck on a campsite with a muddy field and watching all the different cars trying to exit the campsite Field through the muddy patch approximately 20 yards long, most of the regular cars would attempt to get up a little bit of speed and make it across the mud and get stuck, but guess what cars made it across.... yes you guessed it embarrassing everyone else just by driving, not even quickly.
Having a 4x4 and camping or caravanning can be a pain as a lot of time is spent towing other site users in and out of the field if the site owner is not around. Thankfully camp sites now have paved roads and decent ablutions.
I pulled a Ford Granada with a large caravan off a muddy field in the New Forest with mine in the late 80s, the guy still didn't quite believe it after the deed was done 😁
@@roelvanes1711 yes this was back in the 80s, One of the guys with me had an old Granada that we were following, he was all over the shop trying to get out the field, even back then he had really dodgy electrics in the back lights.
Hired a two wheel drive panda in Mallorca 1984 (people around that era will probably remember the deck chair like seats), what you could do with a rental car in those days that you would never have done with your own vehicle is a matter for your own conscience, but I remember being thoroughly impressed how this little two wheeled drive motor coped with the rough mountain tracks... what the four wheeled drive would have been like I can only imagine.
you can only imagine and i do expirience every other day for that fun.
So good to see this channel growing! Well done Jonny! keep up the good work
Johnny your channel is fantastic - I really look forward to your videos.
I love these, I’d very much like a battered, sun bleached Panda 4x4 for that Continental Alpine feel.
You need to drive one of the new panda 4x4's. Twin-air preferably, they're an absolute hoot! Keep up the good work JS, lovin' the content.
I love my 2014 panda 4x4 they’re so so good on and off road! The old ones are super cool
Loving it. Top job Vern on the Panda and thanks for the video Jonny and the team 👍
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Love it!
This brings back memories of my Panda 34. A very practical car.
Wonderful vid, what a joy to see Johny enjoy the great outdoors!
I used to love the "trough" on the passenger side - perfect fit for double cassettes at the time. I'm sure Panda prices have gone up even more after this great video!
The best ski resort for spotting the 4x4 Panda is Livigno in Italy there's always loads of them there!
Brilliant little cars! I had the luxurious (!) Sisley edition, and I have regretted parting with it since 1991. I too loved the inclinometer gauges, but they were a bit useless as they used to swing wildly when one was braking or going around a corner. And you're right - they're like Gremlins - don't put them anywhere near water! Happy memories.
I really liked the simple off road shots at the end. Loved the way the Panda took the bumps - looked like great fun
In Italy twice last year, still hundreds of these tiny 4x4's bouncing around in the mountains...
Woah a minute in and that transporter pick up in the side street! well done perv for staying focused on the road.
We go to Lake Garda every couple of years and these are everywhere, its Panda 4x4 and ageing Fiat heaven
Just remembered my mate had a really early 2wd in 'calf scour brown' that got washed away crossing a ford in a flash flood..we pulled it out, dried it out and it kept going for a fair few years..never smelled quite right after though...
The original GOAT
Never heard of the Land Rover Series One? The vehicle that a large percentage of people living in the undeveloped world was the first vehicle they'd ever seen in the flesh!
@@koitorob fiat campagnola ar76 was far Better
You mean panda 🤣
Love watching videos about neat little vehicles like this one that we never got to see on the roads in Canada (to my recollection anyway).
I drove a Panda 4x4 from Cadiz to Amsterdam in 1987, criss-crossing Spain then France. It took me 6months I did 9,600 miles and it never broke down, and started every time!.........
Sounds like a hell of a road trip.
@@TheLateBrakeShow It was all of that! Lol! I rented it in Tenerife, caught the ferry to Cadiz, switched the Plates with an identical Panda that had been abandoned by a US serviceman outside the NATO base nr Cadiz and left it at Schiphol airport...........It was a scam I read about in a Robert Ludlum novel.........I don't think you could get away with it nowadays......
My Steyr Puch Haflinger 700 AP makes that panda look like a limousine.😁
Johnny is killing it with the content!
Glad I found this. Had a sage green 4x4 back in the 1990's and it was so much fun!!
Had a Panda once and it was surprisingly good (and amazing in the snow) 👍
Love these! 👍 My Panda is a "limited edition" 750, it has a 5 speed gearbox, and 2 door mirrors! (That's actually on the spec list) Doesn't have a radio or even a clock 🤣
A lot of fun to drive. Such a recognizable car as well. Sure it's not big but it's great for enjoying the ride.
They are brilliant wee things, I didn't quite "get" them until I went on holiday to Lake Como and saw them scampering up and down the very steep narrow mountain roads around the Lake.
Such a cool little ca, love it!
That was my first car, right there!
A 1992 Fiat Panda 4x4, with slightly increased ground clearance and mud tires! My dad bought it as an extra car for the countryside, but I got to drive it in the city too.
In the Italian countryside you still see so many of these, but at the time (this was towards the end of the life of the old Panda, mid-2000s) they were everywhere, by far the most capable off roader you could buy for that kind of money, and arguably the best in the narrow, bendy and steep tracks of the Roman countryside. I was always impressed by its performance, the fact it was so light made it so easy to go anywhere, and everytime something broke, it was very easy and cheap to repair.
After that died, we got a Jimny in replacement, which ended up being my main car for a decade, and boy oh boy I miss that one too.
My first car when I passed my test in 92 was white Fiat Panda 45. F41 TRD and if I'm honest the 1l fire engine was a cracking little thing, infact the whole car was brilliant for a 17 year old lad.
Steyr built Haflinger’s and Pinzgauer’s too, sadly split up, the only thing I believe that still carries the name is their Weapon’s , stick that in your ‘Puch’ and smoke it ! 😆
I’ve had a good few defenders and series Landrovers over the years. Also I’m off road driving instructor for a well know 4x4 make, so I’ve driven a lot of the fancy new cars. I think people who’ve not really had the opportunity to drive off road underestimate how important low weight is, much more so than any fancy terrain response or air suspension etc etc.
Panda’s are very impressive when the going gets rough. Had a drive of one in the Alps during a MTB holiday after getting talking to a guide, seriously capable on very rough terrain. He said in the winter they where the only thing that was any good on a lot of the higher mountain tracks. Absolutely believed him.
You should do more of this type of car if you can. Obviously the Jimny, but I would really love to see you drive a 2CV Sahara, if you can find somebody to let you drive one, I recon right up your street.
I once did a hike to a "Sennerei" which is a agricultural hut in the Alps, it was in Italy and the way was steep and stony, at the top where the hut was stood a Panda 4x4 from the Italian Telecom, did not expect that.
Hi Jonny, hope you are well and survived the greenlaning. Panda looks like a little Lada Niva, one of my favourite 4x4's. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe and keep up the good work. :)
Love these old Pandas. Never owned one but used to be a passenger in a friends '900 Dance', hilarious little box to be flung around in.
Everyone loves a '900 Dance' Matt. Typical Friday night situation.
@@TheLateBrakeShow Yes! Loved it!
absolutley love this channel, my dream car thanks johnny
This car really stood out to me in your other video I watched recently.
Generally I'm not all that interested in 4x4s as for most people they are unnecessary. These small utilitarian cars though are fascinating. A friend of mine had a modern Panda 4x4 cross and I was really impressed by it. So usable as a daily car on the road, comfortable driving quickly on poorly maintained roads and surprisingly capable off road too.
My wife, Barbara, absolutely loves hers!
Love all 80’s Fiats, thank You for this! Looking forward to the Ritmo 130TC testdrive now.. Or an Argenta Volumex.. :)
You will find my Sisley living in the Alps.....gets more attention than the G Wagon's, Range Rovers, and Porsches, and I take great pride driving around them on snowy days, when they are stuck 😁
Ever since I saw that Columbia episode where James May was in the fiat panda I’ve fallen in love with these simple little beasts
I loved this vid, brought back so many good memories. I had a mark one on the 80s, replaced both wings, door and boot skins, bonnet and sills due to rust. All this in an 18 month old car! Great little thing though, surprisingly capable off road and loads of fun around town. I still miss it sometimes.
It is such a practical car, it is not only square from the outside but also from the inside. Just shove those boxes in!
A truly go anywhere car - see them in the French Alps even now... awesome
Brilliant video, expertly presented
Clicked 'Like' after the thumbnail... Gotta love a Panda (4x4) and just know / knew this would be a good 'un :)
I had one B734JUY mk1 suffered from tin worm! but I ❤'d it. Super capable when I pulled up the T bar👌
Jonny, going that extra mile. Great video
....that was kind of surreal Jonny - seeing you driving around my my nearest local town!!
I remember my uncles Fiat Panda, the interior was basically deck chairs and the 'glove box' was a bit of fabric stretched between a pole and the firewall. The ultimate super leggera.
Jonny *Mellow* *Yellow* Fun run about. Thank you.
I love your comments about big is not always best. I used to drive a Chelsea tractor. Now my little on the outside big on the inside BMW i3s will beat any oversized vehicles in town, on narrow country roads or mountain passes. Everywhere except long Motorway driving.
Awesome little thing!
Loved this Johnny ❤ my 1st car was white 1000s super D803CLL it flew back in the day all my mini 1000 friends were jealous.
My dad had a second generation Panda, with the 1.3 diesel. It was ridiculously practical with the rear seats down and returned about 65 mpg on short journeys. It was such good and fun to drive empty , I’m considering one as a dog car
I learnt to drive in my ma's Panda 750L FIRE. It was such a hoot to drive - nimble and nippy the best words. Would love to get my hands on a non-rusty southern italian import and maybe do an electric conversion.
Had two a MK1 and a MK2 with the 900cc pushrod engine ,wish I still had one today it’s a cracking little car
This so takes me back! I had an ‘85 B plate 4x4 in the baby sick/Sage Green they used to do it in. It had the early 956cc carbed engine, as opposed to the later 999 cc ‘Fire’ engine which was injected. I used to have the right red eye when the Sisley edition came out, they were so chic!
Oh my Lord! I am looking forward to this so much! Saving it for one the wretched kids are asleep and I can relax! Forget CT and their cheap car challenge (note: that’s second on the list!), and the latest gazillion ££ LMP on Carfection (noted, that’s #3), I’m loving this!!! Well done Jonny!!
I colour coded myself once with my car completely by accident just throwing any old things on to nip out to the shops. At the time I owned a beige Peugeot 405 and as I unlocked the car to get in I looked at the beige interior, looked down at myself and thought "hell no" and had to go in and change.
Many years ago I was half-way up the side of Mount Vesuvius and one of these came chugging up the footpath, round the narrow hairpins... in the snow.. Got to love the Italians :-D
I live on the italian alps and let me tell you, these are the perfect cars for our narrow mountain roads, unstoppable. I've seen a lot of suvs stranded in the snow, never a panda 4x4. Whoever owns one now keeps it like a treasure and they sell for relatively high prices around here.
We had one as a beater pool car when I was working in forestry in the mid 90s, it could beat almost anything off road apart from maybe the Unimog !!
One of the most underrated 4x4's in this country, just because of its brand/model
In my opinion the 80s were just the best period of time in many ways.
Love these nice windbreaker Jonny
I like the older pandas, but the four by four is still my favourite. I saw one many years ago in orange with the bull bars and like the looks of it because it was unusual.