Sarah Stusek | AUTHORS BEHAVING BADLY
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I am an author and I have been told my book needed to improve and I took their advice and said thank you ☺️
I'm a survivor of the troubled teen industry. I really wish this author wasn't so rude online. We need to expose these "therapy programs." They're torture, not treatment.
I'm so sorry that you went through that
They definitely must be if this person couldnywrite a book about her experience for over a decade and still seems very weird about it
hasn't paris hilton been talking about her experiences in the industry? she's a little "problematic" i guess but she's such a loud voice that that's got to be a good thing
@@lightningstriking she has become an activist and trying to get those horrible places shut down I read her memoir and watched her documentary I really feel bad for any child that went to those places
I looked into the group Rachel discussed, and found a support site for people who've survived one of these 'therapy programs'. YT won't allow me to post the link. But the name of the org is Breaking Code Silence. Let's hope this lady can get her sh!t together and be helpful instead of digging herself into a deeper hole.
A bit off topic but I feel like paying strangers to kidnap your child from their bed in the middle of the night isn't going to do much to help their attachment issues.
Right?!
Scrolling through comments after just clicking on the video with zero context and... wtf
Edit: the context doesn't make this any less confusing
@@justbrowsing9697 Rachel explained the supposed "purpose" of the kind of camps the book is about and the types of "issues" the camp is supposed to help resolve. One of those things that happened to stand out to me was attachment issues.
@@okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I'm confused by who would think it's a good idea, not in how child abduction would worsen attachment issues. Sorry if that wasn't clear
Not to mention it said it could help PTSD…seems like it would Cause it
I know people who lived through "troubled teen" programs both camps and schools. This is a deeply traumatic, abusive, and exploitative industry. The idea that it's some "learning about yourself and communication in the woods la-di-da" experience is abhorrent. Her entire framing feels so wrong. It's not "therapy" it's torture.
On top of the sort of nice framing of these torture camps, the part that really puts me off is her sort of "separating" herself from the other kids that were taken there by saying she's a "normal", child star vs those CLEARLY bad, troubled teens who are "felons/druggies/arsonists" as if that makes it okay for THEM to have been forcibly taken from their homes and isolated from their family and friends and subject to intense, abusive excursions where they don't even get enough water and don't actually have access to real therapists.
I have 4 kids and my youngest has struggled a lot behaviorally, but by being honest with those struggles with school staff and a psychiatrist, we were able to keep her at her elementary school, which, i think, unless there's a very serious safety issue, you shouldn't even take a kid out of their regular school to go a school for kids with behavioral issues. Nevermind having your child ripped from their life (especially with all the true crime around today, how freakin' terrifying for them)!!! I, literally, would willingly have one of my arms cut off with a chainsaw than EVER do that to one of my kids. Parents who are willing to do such a thing, show that it is THEM that's the problem, not the kid.
My sister was sent to one of those “wilderness camps” by her mother. It was a religious based program for “troubled teens” but most of the kids were there because they were gay. My sister was shackled for weeks at a time, and when she refused to conform she was not fed regular meals, but instead beets from a can twice a day. Btw using food as punishment is LITERALLY against the *Geneva Convention* and yet it took us almost a year in court to get her out, and YEARS before they were shut down. These stories are important to share because these camps still exist. Last I heard the people who owned that camp moved states somewhere and were running youth programs for a Church…
They usually close but open again under a new name and, legally, with other people in charge, but do the same things and even hire the same people. It is insane
Hope your sister is in a safe place now ❤
Oh bloody hell, thats insane. Shackled?!
SHACKLED????
I've heard of kids who were beaten for being gay, but never one who was *beeten* for being gay.
In all seriousness, though, that's horrible. I'm sorry it took so long to get her out, but I'm glad that she's away from that abusive environment.
As someone who didn’t grow up in the US, the idea of these camps where a child is ripped out of their bed in the middle of the night, although with the parents permission, it’s absolutely insane and horrifying.
It’s just as horrifying inside the us too 😨
Yeah, this is very much not a common thing in the US; it’s just as horrifying to hear about as someone who lives here. It is definitely something that makes you think about how there’s ways in which parents have the ability to be extremely harmful to their kids that not only aren’t legally recognized as abuse, but may even be encouraged by the government in some cases.
Parents have entirely too many rights over their kids. I am passionately pro-choice, but kids need more rights. I know they're squishy and don't know anything, but parents do know stuff and they can be dangerous!
How the fuck is this shit legal and not classified as abuse
On this episode of shit that should be fucking illegal:
As an author it’s actually GOOD to have a few lackluster reviews. 1) a good product will realistically have some people who don’t like it which lends legitimacy to it vs fake reviews and 2) I want the reader who will enjoy the content to read it, so if one reader didn’t like an aspect, that will indicate to similar readers not to pick it up and not waste their time, too.
Exactly! Bad reviews gives readers important information and can prompt people to buy because it helps people see if it has themes that they like
Yep. When I’m looking for new books to read (from authors I’m not already familiar with) I always check the non-five star reviews.
Often times those are the reviews that can sell a book to me.
Especially the balanced ones, that take into consideration both the pros and cons.
A good writer will grow and listen to the needs of their reader base
I read the bad reviews first and it fuels me to like the book or movie more. *USUALLY*. Sometimes I can see the point, others I'm like "people are just mean and bitter".
Exactly! I always feel bad when reading a book out of my comfort zone and thus rating it with a 1-3 Star. I always think, well this wasn't for me, had I not picked it up and stuck to my own category of fancy, I wouldn't bring the average down - now people who will actually like it might think less of it, because of a Genre-unqualified opinion like mine 😅 for example I don't read classics. Me rating pride and prejudice 2 stars bc the writing style bores me and isn't like the immersive fast pace ya romantasy scifi novels I like? Kind of rude of me 😅 should have just not rated it. Then again I wanna sort it in my goodrrads shelves accordingly haha
Crisis pregnancy centers should absolutely not exist, but the fact that they do means that we NEED to make sure that they are called out, exposed, and prevented from accessing vulnerable people.
Amen
I wish this author weren’t so problematic because that’s a topic I would definitely read about whether in fiction or nonfiction.
My abusive mother tried to send my brother to one of those camps. She couldn’t afford it so she contacted several talk shows and exaggerated and lied about how “troubled” and “out of control” my brother is and how those camps are his last chance.
She was _furious_ with him when she told him about it (she tried to make it sound like a one week sleep-away camp with therapists) and he wouldn’t go along with her plan of pretending that he liked to set fires in the house, that he used drugs, that he threatened her life everyday, and so on.
She not only saw it as her chance to get rid of him, but also as a way to get sympathy from millions of people over it and possibly her way to get 15 minutes of fame (someone might see her and want her for a commercial “and that’s how you get in to acting for real”).
She was irate because my brother was stealing all of that from her and she did what she could to make his life miserable until she kicked him out on his 18th birthday.
Every time I’ve seen these camps come up on tv, I’ve wondered how many of the kids there aren’t “troubled” at all, but had abusive parents. That or the whole reason they were “troubled” was because they were abused almost every day of their lives.
Because I get the feeling it was a large percentage of them.
i'm so sorry that you and your brother went through all that. i hope you're free from her influence now
Paris Hilton...mother fucking Paris Hilton...was sent to one. It's mostly parents who don't want to parent. A friend of mine was ordered by court to mental hospitals and rehabs throughout the 90s. The paying customers were wealthy people who couldn't just ditch their kids at a boarding school. The kids might use drugs or act up. Most of iot would have cleared out with simple rules and actual parenting.
From the stories i hear 99% of the kids are troubled becuase their home life is super toxic and their parents are abusive so your feeling is correct.
every time an author throws a fit over a bad review i just think like.....they would not survive any sort of art program. even when critiques were nice you still have to handle people telling you to your face that your work has issues or is lacking somehow. in front of an audience. idk how they made it past the editing process or like, any creative writing course but they would not have survived my (very kind) high school art program
I think that too. I have a BA and an MA in creative writing. I had to learn to sit politely and listen to critique. Having that thick skin is so crucial.
She claims to be a comedian, but clearly can't handle criticism (I'd be scared to see someone heckle her). She claims to be an actor/producer/director, but clearly hasn't read any negative reviews or received negative feedback from a director or EP or boss. Did her supervisors on VEEP and House of Cards just blow smoke up her ass or is she so entitled that she can't conceive that she deserves anything less than a 5 star review? She should be grateful that it wasn't a one star review. She should be happy that it was a four star review, not whining about it.
I took art classes and have worked in the corporate world, both as a writer and designer, and if you can't handle constructive feedback, you're going to have a hard time in the world. I would get it if she got a terrible review that wasn't constructive, but I'd also probably not spend so much time reading reviews and focus on writing my next book (and better) or other projects.
I have a BA in creative writing and had a totally different experience. In classes people were extremely hesitant to give critical feedback, and all critical feedback was very gentle. When grading assignments, professors would also be very gentle.
This may be because my school is not in any way prestigious or difficult to get in to so people of all skill levels (with the vast majority at the beginning level) get lumped together into one class. It’s hard to give meaningful critique when most senior-level students can’t write competently (and I’m not excluding myself from this pool, my writing needs work).
The general vibe was like when you see a kid draw poorly and you tell them it’s great to encourage them and preserve their ego.
Maybe she came from a program or situation like this?
Exactly! I went and got a Fine Art degree so I could illustrate my books ~ I was told for 4 years I sucked, everything wrong to my face and when I look for beta readers I'm not looking for you to tell me what I'm doing well, I need to know what doesn't make sense and isn't working so I can fix it ~ art school trained me to handle all critiques whether done nicely or harshly as they should be ~ to make me better at what I do
Just an FYI about "wilderness therapy" - when I worked in behavioral health, we never saw the wilderness therapy people at conferences or training. They keep to themselves and do not mix in with the rest of the profession, which is incredibly suss. The mental health profession has been understaffed for decades, and the only way to connect clients with the services they need is to network. When an agency intentionally stays away from free/low cost training, networking, etc, that tells me they are there to make money & nothing else. Plus, these programs largely exist because rich people don't want their kids in the same programs as medicaid kids and they want an excuse to not visit or participate. Medicaid accepting programs are the best programs (medicaid covers a lot of services for kiddos with certain diagnoses) and medicaid ensures that the government and its contractors are doing intensive oversight. Stick with your trusted local providers, stop sending your kids to these hellholes. If you do, I'm 99% sure you are the main source of your child's dysfunction.
Exactly! Well said.
This is lowkey terrifying. I feel like authors don't recognize how their actions, like posting a username, can lead to doxxing and harassment and shit. I hope the reviewer doesn't get scared away from reviewing in the future.
The scary thing is, I think she knows exactly how scary and dangerous doxing is and that’s precisely why she did it.
I went to a troubled teen boarding school (it sucked), and I know several people who were there who were “gooned” which is what they called strangers showing up in your room in the middle of the night and throwing you into a van. I can’t understand how it’s legal.
Because in America, children are not human beings they are their parents property and as long as you sign a piece of paper, it's all good. 😡
how terrifying; I think I'd still have PTSD from an experience like that.
There's a webcomic about a man who went through this hell with the Elon School. I read most of it in one day and wish I hadn't, even knowing he eventually escaped it's dire
@@eldrichnemo9312what's the name of the webtoon?
It’s typically NOT legal, but with the parents being complicit, the child victims fail to access emergency services like being able to call the police, nor do they have the funds later in to take legal actions for the abuse endured.
Her entitlement was insane. I thought the review was positive and honest... if that's all anyone had to say about my writing I would be THRILLED.
But watching her tiktoks, I can see she's been entitled her entire life so not surprised.
Same. I'd be happy dancing over a review like that.
She has no maturity. She’s acting like the worst girl in grade 9. I’m not interested thanks. No publisher will be either.
These authors throwing a tantrum and turning around telling the people they hurt "can't you take a joke" - they sound like high school bullies. Like. " it's your fault I'm bullying you and you are the one who should apologize", and these authors never grew out of that poor behavior.
I was just going to comment she is radiating pure high school bully energy. Her tone is so condescending, just gross. Grow up.
I agree!!! As an aspiring author and book reviewer myself this is sickening. She’s never been in a workshop before and it shows!!! I did this in my classroom and all of my students were respectful and kind to each other. It wasn’t bad at all.
Okay as an Indie author, allow me to explain what a hybrid author is. A hybrid author is an author who has been traditionally published AND also chooses to self-publish. A hybrid. Vanity is not the same. Vanity is when you pay someone *usually a stupidly high amount* to publish you. As usual, great video, my dear! This author’s behavior was cringe worthy!
There's no "traditional" about hybrid-publishing. There's no "AND" at all. The author pays. The 'publisher' provides a product, the services. The main difference between them is a vanity press has no quality control, they take the money and run. A hybrid press attempts to be selective and have standards, and they will take the money... and walk... as they sort of work with you, and may have staff with expertise, but you're doing most if not all the work in both cases. Vanity presses tend to take advantage of people... At worst, hybrid publishers are just vanity publishers in disguise, while at best hybrid publishers are the literary world's equivalent of a homeowner hiring and paying a general contractor to do work on and oversee other workers on their house build/reno -- if you look at your book as a house, this way of looking at it is most fair, most accurate... So, a vanity press doesn't care if they 'build' to code, but a hybrid press usually will 'build' to code. You will find for example, that some university profs living and working in a publish or perish environment will publish with a hybrid press which will see them in print in less than a year and in their university bookstore, rather than wait years with traditional publishers.
"I was being sarcastic." NO U WERE NOT. It wasn't comedy. This is a good lesson in how engaging with "the haters" will always make you look like a defensive idiot.
It's like she thought she invented thanking the haters for all the engagement
I had a time where I read an arc of a romance novel and nicely gave it 3 stars and the author went out of her way to find my friend group and insert herself into family drama of a friend to think we psyoped her book instead of just admitting her book was bad.
It was such a spiral. All she had to do was mind her own business.
Was it 3 out of 5? If so, I'm not getting why the author thought it was a bad score. To me, 3/5 is where most books fall.
Not that her bad behaviour would've been justified even if you'd given her a 1, mind.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 the book was worth a 1 star. But I gave it a 3 star. And very politely mentioned it was uncomfortable that she set up for the next book to have a romance between a 15 year old and her 50 year old servant (it was a historical romance). She didn’t like that I pointed that out ig.
@@singlovedream98 Yikes!
Eeeee yikes
@@mariaaguadoball3407Personally, I wouldn't read a book with a 3/5 score unless I was REALLY interested in the subject.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would be stoked to get 4 stars out of 5 in a book review. When did that stop being a good thing?
Clearly, this woman's ego is bigger than her talent, and that's saying something since apparently her book was an "incredible" debut.
Exactly what I'm wondering. To me, a 4 is "excellent" and 5 is "this book has changed my life."
Right, like even 3 stars is a positive review!! 6/10 means there's more good than bad. That reads to me like 'it was meh but I still had more to like than dislike.'
I had an author who I did an arc for trash me in an insta video because I said her book needed to be tagged Christian. It had so many Christian themes and then these heavy, detailed sex scenes and I questioned who the audience was for it. Now I gave her a two star that she deserved - the book was terrible- but she was so offended about the Christian part. My biggest point was that I would have avoided it had it been tagged, not that she couldn’t Christian up her book if she liked. She didn’t get my point but I flagged her behaviour through NetGalley and got her in trouble. She had no following though so thankfully nothing came of it. But these authors need to chill out, and let readers have opinions. Putting it on an arc site and asking for your honest opinion then trashing you about it is ridiculous.
Honestly I look specifically for negative reviews because I find it easier to more accurately gauge if I’ll like a book or not by seeing what other readers found unlikable about a book rather than what they liked. Somehow the “I liked how it was written” is so much more vague to me than “I really didn’t like the writing”. 🤷🏻♀️ So I sort by low reviews when checking out a book. I can look through the negative feedback and go “yeah, I don’t think that would bother me, I think this is a good option for me to pick up” and feel more confident than by only reading highly rated reviews.
I do the same thing. I've been known to purchase a book solely because the only negative reviews were about how "woke" it was, which to me means it's more likely to align with my values.
Also I just like to read a nice, detailed negative review bc they tend to pick out writing problems or character/world building they didn't like and so on. The more detail the better (at least until I start glazing over).
"people with uteruses" is such an ally whistle, I had whiplash rewinding just to hear that part again. Holy crap. This is what it feels like to hear allyship in real time!
As a self-published indie author, if you’re paying a publisher it’s vanity. Hybrid is usually a term for authors who have some self-published and some trad published books (like Ilona Andrews).
It’s honestly getting more complicated these days. I do some work for a few hybrid publishers and back in the 90s I had a book with a vanity press because there weren’t many options back then. There are differences though I certainly prefer self-publishing for myself.
Hybrid publishing is a kind of publishing house. How many degrees of separation there are between it and vanity publishing operation are debatable. But a hybrid author is an author published by a hybrid press. It has nothing to do with indie combined with traditional publishing. Somebody out there must be blurring the distinctions, using the term inaccurately.
Hybrid publishing seems to be nothing more than a fancy way to pretend they aren't a vanity press. All the criteria used to separate the two are honestly pretty nonsense. "Being picky on what they choose to publish" doesn't reduce the scam of having to pay thousands for a PUBLISHER to publish your book. And that's pretty much the only thing I've seen that's meant to be different.
Yeah, this is my impression as well. Heard someone say the difference is "Hybrid is selective, we have a submissions process, we have acquisitions meetings, we produce high quality", but the thing is, they literally all promis that. A scam won't really work if they say "we publish everything and do a terrible job". For the markup they charge vs Self-pub, it's definitely not worth it
Yeah, it reminds me of the MLMs that claim “oh, we’re not an MLM, we’re network marketing. It’s better.”
Yeah, no. It’s the same thing.
I completely agree.
When she mentioned being dragged out of her bed at night I thought that was the 'fiction' part, but going through these comments I'm kind of stunned. Like, there's... legit businesses that have strangers come into your home and traumatize your child by kidnapping them? Taking them away to some place you don't know and your parents just letting that happen and paying for it? I'd hate my parents and spit on their graves if they did that to me, and I spit on every one of them now that thinks that's normal. You're rich! Why don't you take your 'troubled teen' to normal therapy like a normal functioning person or communicate with your child?!
Is this like 'rich people' things where they hire a dog trainer to do all the training for them and get huffy when they have to continue the training themselves to let the lessons sink in and just expect to throw money at a problem? So they think sending their child away for a few months will magically mend all the problems with the family? If you think having your kid in a staged kidnapping and stranded in the wilderness with strangers is a way to fix them, I think you're the one who needs therapy. I'm so confused how this is legal.
There is a whole business around it. A lot of therapists are paid to refuse to treat children if they don't go to one of these programs. The situation is insane. Haven't gone to Reddit in a while, but there was the troubled teen subreddit where survivors usually speak about there experiences and have been trying to get the information out there for a while
Unfortunately a lot of these ‘wilderness therapy’ places are run by religious organisations and the ‘therapy’ literal children are being sent for are things like being gay or trans (things that aren’t something you need to be cured of) and even when it’s for stuff like a drug or alcohol addiction they don’t use any valid form or therapy to treat the problem.
These writers should take some writers workshops. They might learn to take criticism.
Yes exactly 🎯💯
Definitely
Probably one of the biggest problems with self-publishing is the lack of constructive feedback. Clearly some authors are just getting smoke blown up their ass about how great they are, by their fans and not by people who are paid to tell them how to make their writing better. As Rachel often says, pay someone like her to be a beta reader and give you honest feedback. Otherwise, you're just going to get rainbows and sunshine, regardless of how good or bad your writing actually is.
@@phonty1 there are plenty of trad published authors that end up in these videos. I just think it's society in general losing the ability to take criticism.
Currently studying for a Creative Writing degree. We're already a tiny group, but quite a few can't take feedback. It's annoying because they don't give any decent input in return. Offered to pass back an annotated piece and was told, "Oh, I don't want to see it, I just wanted you to read it", before proceeding to take over the time I was going to use for workshopping/getting feedback on my own piece. It's a nightmare, and trying to succeed is a lot harder.
Sarah should adopt my policy, and just take a nap when she gets upset. Sometimes, all we need is just some rest.
A friend of mine from high school underwent a wilderness therapy program as a teen. In our 20s, she took her life. If not for all the controversy, I would’ve wanted to read this book to understand more about my late friend’s experience and the traumas she must’ve been suffering.
I worked in film as a script supervisor once upon a time and omg she really seems like THAT film school person…the insufferable one. Yikes Sarah…
4 stars and still not good enough WTF? I’d be thrilled to bits if that was the response of my first book. Girl please check yourself and keep yourself in check, don’t call people names because you didn’t get 5 stars, don’t be so childish and grow up, no book is perfect. Great video as always, Thank you 👍✌️🙏❤️✨
As someone who went to a program similar to a wilderness program and then a second "transition program" with lots of kids from wilderness, I also would have loved to read a book from the perspective of someone else who's been there and it really sucks that she's acting Like This about it. These places are so awful and treat kids and young adults like garbage while draining their parents' bank accounts, and the one I went to didn't pay any taxes because they forced us to do "volunteer" work which allowed them to operate as a "charity." Hearing Rachel say "upsetti spaghetti" is way more therapeutic than anything I experienced at those places! 😂 Oh and I fully believe that a staff member could have told her she should write a book about the experience right after kidnapping her from her bed, most of the staff at those places are similarly unhinged and detached from reality in my experience!
Btw, your volunteer work wasn't what made that place a non profit, it's pretty easy for most Healthcare providers to get a 501 3 c and the government actually does not like children to be forced to do volunteer work, but the bad places rarely take medicaid, so theres much less government oversight. They were lying and using your labor as either a free (to them, but in a real program, the kids get wages) workforce readiness program or their own benefit. These places are beyond terrible, I workedfor a legit one but we heard horror stories from clients and other staff.
@@montananerd8244 Oh good to know! Idk if it makes a difference that it was a program for 18-25 year olds, but yeah the work we did was mostly working on farms and stuff as "horticultural therapy" and definitely did benefit them in some way. It was clear they didn't have much government oversight since there were so many health code and OSHA violations. I'm glad you got to work for one of the good ones though, clearly we need more of those!
this mindset is so bizarre to me, I even consider my 3 stars to be good reviews. Not every book is going to change your life and that's ok.
A friend of mine who writes erotica recieved a hilarious ne-star review complaining about the book containing sex, aexual situations and adult encounters. It read like Dana Carvy's Church Lady reviewig the Exorcist! My friend was delighted and posted the review prominently. We joked that it was a five-star one-star review.
It might not shock you to learn that Lucy Bloom - whom you've also covered as part of this series - is defending Sarah 🙃
Oof.
Highlights:
You “alleged comedian” 😂
Your hubby: “you’re being petty today” roflll
I hope your friend is okay. I would be absolutely terrified if someone started throwing down my whole name like that. It makes me afraid of what else they might be willing to do.
That said, I too am a joyless, non-weed smoking, hates food, sad person.
Also, your nails are phenomenal.
"you're being petty today" "i am :)" love it
Being mad because a reviewer gave you 1🌟 despite never having read it: JUSTIFIED.
Being mad because a reviewer gave your book a glowing 4🌟 review: wtaf
I'm a writer myself and honestly, I don't get the entitlement to five star reviews. I would be THRILLED to get 4, 4.5 stars "maybe a small problem but the rest is amazing." that's a fantastic review, I'd be floating on air. What an absolute turd of a person.
Agree! I only have two reviews, and they're five star, but I wouldn't mind some four star reviews. And not all one star reviews for that matter are bad, as some one star reviews have made me buy a book!
Despite taking money from the rich, the program doesn’t provide studies to prove their efficacy because they would prove they don’t work. In fact, they often make things worse. They neglect to acknowledge that many of these kids have external factors causing their behaviour. In some cases, these kids are abused, assaulted, humiliated, etc. I studied many of these programs while doing my degree, and they horrified me. I feel for any child who has to go through these.
Have you ever thought about writing about it? I think I would really like to read some responsibly written work on this horrendous health 'care' trend.
@@davidknight2423 I have thought about it! I’m actually working on a fiction novel at the moment but maybe I can make a pit-stop into health/wellness nonfiction ;) Maybe a good blog post… If I do, I’ll reply again!
Also, this whole situation is just wild to me. Imagine going thru *such* a traumatic event like that, getting the opportunity to shed light on it…and then only being bothered by a mostly positive review of it instead of, I don’t know, anyone who tried to say it was fake or made up or something along those lines. It just feels like she’s got bigger fish to fry you know?
I wonder if she would have been better helped if she had been put into a proper care situation at that time?
“Alleged comedian” is such a subtle burn
the "are the producers in the room with us right now" comment on the tiktok about the meeting is sending me
Her energy is so wild.......she seems extrenely unhinged and really should be the poster child for why the troubled teen industry does not produce well adjusted adults.
I'm in a writer groups on facebook and anytime someone posts and complains about reviews I'm always first to be like man, reviewers don't owe an author anything. Like there are legit people upset that people only leave star reviwers but no comments.
I was waiting on this. I've been watching this from the bushes wondering why she didn't just admit she made a mistake. Everyone loves redemption stories. As of today she has deleted almost all of the comments that aren't from people who excuse/ignore her behavior. It's a dumpster fire and she chooses to fan the flames.
Especially if she apologised that her joke "didn't land". Sooo.... If that's funny to her then I suppose she'd be in hysterics if everyone referred to/greeted her in the same way.
@@PriyaPans OH the irony! She fooled no one.
In my more than 50 trips around the sun, I have been called a bitch a LOT...guessing a number would definitely be hundreds and that's just the ones I heard with my own ears...and never ONCE have I ever been called a bitch by someone who was getting what they wanted from me. I will wear that badge with honor--hell, I'll paint it in flashing neon so the world can see it.
So the next time someone lobs that term at you, just ask them 'what do you want from me that you aren't getting?" because there is an answer to that question. You don't have to care what the answer is, but putting them on notice that you know they're just butt hurt over your NO is actually quite satisfying.
Trust me, I'm old and I know these things.
“I was a child actor… I was in commercials.” MA’AM!!! 🤣🤣🤣 please take a *few* seats!!!
your takes on what review spaces and star ratings are for are really good, and i appreciate your "dont go send hate, dont diagnose/perpetuate ableism, and dont use tactics that bigots use bc it allows the tactics to become even more so used by bigots/socially accepted" very good video love to see it
I remember the Kiera Cass controversy. That is why I never picked up The Selection. It happened to a reviewer I respect a lot and have followed for years. I remember seeing that go down first hand.
I probably would have picked up this book myself for the premise too. I don't one star anything like that either. I just put it in my shelf for books Im not interested in anymore and move on.
I feel bad for the reviewer in this, and hope she's doing okay.
...The part where she said she learned about communicating feels like she's never actually gone to one of those programs, everything I've ever heard about them makes me think that anyone who's gone to one would never have anything positive to say about them... Aren't they super abusive?
They probably aren't abusive by default, they just provide the perfect environment for it. I suppose you could learn something but the odds are against it being anything good.
@@kbird6208 No, they're abusive. The whole industry is rotten.
In the exact fundie environment that sent kids to camps like this, my church thought a fun quirky way to welcome young teens to youth group would be to show up at our houses at 11pm and fake-abduct us (though not violently).
The parents were supposed to keep the kids up & dressed past bedtime so they’d be ready to go when the church van showed up, but mine forgot and had to wake me up again. We’d only been at this church a few months but my parents were happy to send me away for the night with adults & teens they barely knew because it was for JESUS
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To be clear the service this is all on the corporate side, the content creators on the platform take great care in making their classes udeful, but these free trial offers are known to be intentionally misleading and may not be affordable for many people.
Honestly I was also super disappointed by the quality of the classes.
Love your husband coming in to say you're being petty. Hell yeah that's love
Saw someone on tiktok comment: "you can really tell who started by writing for AO3 or Wattpad and who didn't" -- and yeah, it really made me think how important constructive criticism and feedback are.
With the Keira Cass incident and many like it, so many good reviewers were driven away by the abuse. That reviewer (who I adored) was an absolute gem. This is the consequence many people miss when they excuse author behaviour like this. These abuses pile up and then publishers, agents and authors are constantly struggling to find trusted reviewers to perform free and often very necessary publicity. The cycle repeats and a new batch of amazing and talented book reviewers have traumas to handle.
I literally go to the bad reviews of a book first and get an idea if I’d like it. For example, when I was looking into reading Haunted by Chuck Palahniuk, I read the bad reviews “most disgusting book I’ve ever read, Canterbury Tales rip off” etc….and I was HYPED to read it. Bad reviews don’t necessarily turn away readers.
@ReadsWithRachel. 👍👍👍 for sure!
I love the nails colors choice ❤ if one thing make me not wanting to pick an indie author to read is how bad they treat critical reviewers
“I’m so cool, I smoke weed.” Yes, that is what cool people say 😂
Ma'am, this is 2023
Usually these camps close after enough abuse charges pile up. You might check with the local police dept
I'm a professional book editor, and "program in the woods" should not be hyphenated. :)
My absolute favorite is the tiktok where she starts listing off random keywords. Because yes, nothing screams “joy” and “sunshine” like using someone’s full legal name because they didn’t like your book lol
lmfao
Carlos, "you're bein' petty today."
You: *SMILE* "yes I am :)))))"
Hahhahahah
Why in the blue hell do authors keep going after 4-star reviewers? It’s not okay even if it’s a horrible 1-star review, but a 4-star review is a POSITIVE review! 🙄
It’s a great example of how people should just step away from social media. Don’t engage with reviewers, appreciate they read your book and move along. The author comes over as unbalanced vs unbothered and its uncomfortable viewing her tick tok tbh.
Hybrid publishing is just vanity publishing with a fancier script around it.
On the brighter side your eye shadow is a complete wow.
EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED TODAY!!!!
How many times must I say it? Four stars is a GREAT review, I'd be ecstatic if I got a four stars review.
This series is so fascinating. I’m sure big name writers have been petty online but I can’t imagine like Stephen King calling someone a bitch because he didn’t like the review. With all of these I wonder do these people not have writing groups? Ever been in a creative writing class? I don’t understand someone in the creative arts who can’t handle criticism.
I full on doubt anyone from that program told her to write a book about it, because those programs are BRUTAL. I doubt any of them would want anyone to talk about it. NDAs are usually filled out and shit.
It's so funny, I went to school for writing (screenwriting so a different beast but still) and I would be so thrilled to get a 4-star review on anything I made that was as kind and constructive as the one she got. Or hell, a 4-star review at all.
As an autistic person, having someone snatch me in the middle of the night to send me in the woods with the consent of my parents sounds like a sure way to trigger a full blown meltdown and a sense of betrayal only years of therapy could start to appease. Which is another sure way of having me "misbehave" and be angry with the whole world. No thanks.
I feel for you there. The worst my parents ever did was just threaten to send me to a military school. Looking back that was their only misstep with me, and it was done under pressure of their peers -- it took me a long time to realize that adults could suffer from peer pressure too. When they thought for themselves they were total advocates for me and my best interests. This was in the '70s and early '80s when there was a LOT of inaccurate assessments and little to no help for parents. Even when parents knew what needed to be done there were systemic walls put up.
Just gonna say, as someone who would like to make comics and is working on some story ideas, I think the first thing you need to be able to do is accept that you'll probably not be a 5 star author or if you have 5 stars, that it might change. 4 stars doesn't mean you're a terrible author who should never write again. It just means that there's things that an audience thought could have been a little better. And just, you have to accept that your story or parts of your story aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea.
The idea that wilderness therapy would help a kid who's afraid to be adopted is laughable. Nothing to make you trust your new family more than to ship them off to the middle of nowhere to suffer from the elements for a while! /s
Paying $30k+ for your kid to get tortured??? Huh???
…I’m glad the people in her TikTok comments seem to be having a good time continuing to openly wonder what she’s doing, if nothing else.
as a writer im so confused by how some authors don't know the ins and outs of book reviews because... don't they also read? don't they also look up books and try to figure out if they are interested in them? they should know about this stuff if they're also readers. gives off the vibe that they might either not read much or just not look at other books' reviews before reading them.
As a joyless malcontent, I only vape non-dank weed and eat flavorless rice cakes because life is pain.
Husband: are you being petty today?
You: I am
😂😂😂❤
"are the producers in the room with us right now?" "are the jokes in the room with us right now?" LMAO
I'm doing my Masters in publishing right now and vanity press is nOt professional and I urge everyone to never do it. It's a scam point blank. A publisher is meant to pay *you* if it asks for money of you it's not a publisher.
And now she’ll get review bombed. Like good move. You didn’t want one stars? Now you’ll have hundreds. What a big doofus!
I went to a wilderness therapy camp and a therapeutic boarding school. I got sent away at the age of 12 and was in treatment until the age of 15. They are truly awful organizations. They use bunk science and psychology. They make things worse for everyone involved
My very first review ever was very harsh, and it stung at first, but I just moved on, and now it's actually my favourite review. If you’re hurt by a review at first, take a step back from Goodreads or Amazon, or wherever and do something else. Guaranteed you’re going to be over it in a few days. Negative or harsh reviews mean you invoked enough emotion in someone to leave a review. I only check them when my ARC readers link me to their reviews, and usually I'll check the others too. My books are getting a mixture of 2 to 5 star reviews, and I'm fine with that. It means my books are getting read. I'm excited when someone leaves a 2 star one, so I can't imagine getting angry over a 4 star!
I've only been doing this since December, and I can't understand her attitude. A lot of my ARC readers haven’t gotten back to me yet, but she got 8 reviews, 7 were 5 star and 1 was 4 star. This means she was doing really well, and better than a lot of us do when we start out, and she ruined it for herself.
It angers me as an author because it means reviewers might be too nervous to review, especially an indie author, with that kind of behaviour. But it also angers me as a reader because I think I would have liked her book. It looks interesting, but I can't as an author support someone who goes off the rails over 4 stars! But I'm also nervous about leaving reviews (I have a separate anonymous review account) because I don’t want someone getting angry with me. It’s something I tell myself often. Would I want an author to get upset with me for a review I left? No! So why can’t people like Sarah put herself in her reviewers shoes? Although maybe she would like the attention.
I'd like to apologize to reviewers for authors like Sarah. Don't be afraid to leave 4 star reviews or even 1 star reviews. We are not all like that, and only giving 5 stars does a disservice to authors and readers. If you feel a book deserves 1 star and you hate that book, don't hold back!
I recognize her behavior as someone who is still really hurting and traumatized and hasnt broke out from a toxic mindset to understand how mature adults act. It's so unfortunate and I hope she evolves. Obviously that poor sweet reviewer and everyone else she bullied didnt deserve that.
Something that continues to blow my mind about authors getting mad about 4 star reviews on goodreads is that in my experience, most reviewers give a book 3 stars by default? 4 stars is an excellent rating on goodreads.
I'm just starting out writing but in fanfic for now to get some practice, and hopefully, original work in the future. If I ever get published, I would've been pretty happy with that 4-star review and the comment with it. I would've been like okay, so I would need to work on that part a bit more in the future and leave it at that with a possible thanks to the reviewer for the info they gave.
I once saw in a facebook writing group somebody complaining that they were given a five star review but it was only three sentences!
Rachel, Paris Hilton got sent to something like this school, and she made a very good UA-cam video about it, I’d highly recommend it.
A 4 star review is so good I don’t get these authors getting mad about it? If you told me I did something worth 4 stars I would cry with joy
me, smoking weed and eating while I watch this: oh no, she's onto me! i hate smoking! food? never heard of her. joy is nonexistent.
I came for the tea and I stayed for the call to action to 1-star crisis pregnancy clinics.
the phrase "alleged comedian" is always so funny. probably even funnier than the said comedian themself
No offense to child actors but she definitely gives child actor in adult body vibes:
“You guys probably don’t smoke weed cause you aren’t cool” lmfaoooo 😂 💀
The fact that this was only over a 4-star review… fml
34:11 “what else do i like to do? oh dogs” 😳
IMDB tells me that Sarah had a small acting role in a movie called _Swimmers_ where she played "Bully Girl on Bus." So, typecasting I guess.
Also I'm not entirely clear how anything on Redcliff's long list of actual psychological disorders, mental health issues, or neurological conditions that a kid can't help having constitute "bad decisions" that these "good kids" made.
Your husband saying "you're being petty today" made me crack up 😂
Double commenting but "the ending was predictable" is a pretty tame piece of criticism unless it's a thriller. I've read a lot of books, I'm pretty good at predicting endings.
Season 7 of the podcast The Opportunist did fantastic reporting on a scam wilderness therapy camp in Utah where kids died and I cannot recommend it enough.
Your hubby is funny 😂😂😂
I think so too!
This author is giving me serious pick me vibes and I thought we left that shit behind in 2012 where it belongs.