EMILY A DUNCAN | AUTHORS BEHAVING BADLY
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So supper late comment. But I wanted to offer perspective as a Jewish person that's had to deal with blood libel shit.
For anyone who doesn't know the most common basic blood libel teachings I've come across is the idea that Jewish people would steal Christian babies and use their blood to make madza (a traditional and ironically white Jewish flat bread). That is the specific story that someone I knew as a teenager was taught by their church here in America. And this was about 20 years ago.
People don't realize how insidious antisemitism is even people that suffer other forms of racism. I want to make it clear that I am not saying being Jewish is harder than being a person of color. For white Jews it just isn't, our whiteness insulates us from a lot (also please keep in mind that there are plenty of Jews that aren't white, entire ethnicities in fact). Christian supremacy is a very real thing that goes hand in hand with white supremacy. If you find one you'll find the other.
In the modern day the blood libel has been used by fridge groups such as Quinon to use the existing antisemitic biases people have. They just dress it up in "Democrats making blood sacrifices and extracting made up chemicals from children's blood" garb to suit their purposes. Anytime you hear conservative or alt-right figure heads talk about Globalists, Secret Cabals, Shadowy people behind the scenes, the Elites or Global Elites they're talking about Jews. We're literally the original "Lizard people wearing human skin to fool everyone" which comes from the very old Christian belief that we were literal demons.
Basically she definitely has some deep nasty ideas about Jewish people and very likely other races of peopme too.
I do give people the benefit of the doubt a lot. We've all grown up in Christian white supremacy and it'll bleed through even when we don't mean it to. But in my experience something that pointed is to some degree intentional and it needs to be called out.
Thank you for saying this! I’m going to pin your comment so people see it first as I think it’s important
@@ReadswithRachel oh wow thank you I appreciate it. I'm really glad you're open to hearing about this topic. I found your channel this week and was really impressed with how you handled certain topics (for example in the Juniper and Thorn video). Glad I found it :)
I just realized I misgendered them. I'm sorry about that stupidity on my part
very well said. the conversations surrounding racial oppression are uncomfortable and I get that and that's why you'll notice a lot of people get defensive or try to say that POC are playing victims but at the end of the day, we all suffer from the patriarchal system, whether it manifests itself financially or mentally or legally. but you also have people who are arguing in bad faith on purpose to get a rise out of people and then say, look they are triggered or blowing this out of proportion. those people are the worst. anyway, I hope these people keep getting called out and "canceled" every time they double down on their bad behavior.
As a non-Jewish person who didn't know about the blood libel stereotype, I think one particularly terrible thing about using it is that it exposes young readers to really harmful antisemitism that a lot of them might not even know they're ingesting. Thank you (and Rachel) for bringing attention to something harmful I didn't even know about, very glad I never stumbled on these books when they came out because I would've been very unaware of how harmful they are
The worst part is that people were just asking for trigger warnings - it wasn’t even “gross, don’t do that”. It was just “you can write and read about whatever you want, just please have trigger warnings so that I can avoid it if necessary”, which really shouldn’t be a controversial statement at all.
this!!!!!
Exactly, (C-)PTSD is a disability, trigger warnings are about accessibility, not special treatment. NB: so much of accessibility issues are framed that way: ableism is so pervasive and prevalent.
😒
One of my favourite authors, Lynette Noni, has a page in the front of her book The Blood Traitor warning readers about being possibly triggered. She doesn’t specify triggers, simply says that given how the last book ended this book is essentially going to be pretty heavy following on from that. But since you should’ve read the last book to be reading that one, you get a pretty good idea of what’s coming simply from the warning.
I hate seeing people so against trigger warnings it's litterally not that hard to write
TW: list triggers here
Like its SO SIMPLE "real life doesn't have trigger warnings" actually it does people warn me all the time about things that might upset me, and i avoid them. Its made my life simpler and others lives simpler because i can very easily navigate my internet experience. Its litterally not that hard.
I absolutely HATE when people complain about trigger warnings and call them spoilers!! First of all, no one is forcing you to read trigger warnings. Secondly, if the “twist” of “mystery” of a book is rape or incest, victims DESERVE PROTECTION more than your being unspoiled for a book!!! It’s honestly entitlement at it’s worst!!
Those people are worse than the ones who ignore the warnings then complain about the book containing things they hate. At least those people think they're doing the right thing by trying to rid the world of what they consider evil. The no spoilers people are just openly selfish.
Exactly. If you're worried about spoilers and you're not someone who would benefit from being warned about certain kinds of content, then don't read the trigger warning, it's literally that simple...
Plus on the other end, these people are saying "NO!!! I wanna make sure survivors of horrible stuff are AS BLINDSIDED AS POSSIBLE when I re-traumatize them!!! You're spoiling all my fun!!!"
I wish people like that understood what being triggered actually meant. If you think about it in terms of food, maybe you like to be surprised by what you eat, completely understandable. But people with debilitating or dangerous allergies like to know what's in their meal. Nobody's saying "Oh, protect me from anything that might be remotely unpleasant!!!" We're just saying, "I know myself, and I'm not in a good place to deal with a panic attack or a week of dissociating right now, so I need to avoid the thing that will will likely cause that reaction."
Ugh I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but yeah
@@sevans8784 I like this comparison. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.
It's not much of a "spoiler" to reveal that SOMEONE in a book has perpetrated incest or is a survivor of domestic violence or is a heroin addict or wev.
This goes even for non-sexual trigger warnings. I get triggered extremely easily by some kinds of content because it was used to abuse me or because it reminds me of a toxic relationship I had or attempted to keep, in a few cases just because it bothers me and always has. I also know a few people who can't even be in the same room with media that is violent (not even with gore, just too violent). With some people, if they explicitly tell me "I am uncomfortable with X," I tell them what media they might be interested in has whatever "X" is and to what extent it's there (answering their questions while being as vague as possible as to not make them completely uncomfortable, while telling them how it made me feel and how bad I thought it was). Trigger warnings are important to some people for a reason, saying that as a person with very few deal-breaker content warnings and actively consumes media that can be extremely triggering.
Okay so. um. I found out today that. Mx Emily A Duncan is my fucking coworker???? Literally for the last several months I've only known them as "Emily the cool goth coworker" but today we were working on the same thing and their books came up offhandedly in conversation three hours into a four hour shift and I had to sit there staring into nothingness and acting like I did not just find out my coworker had twitter callouts about them like holy SHIT. also was like ONE HIT AWAY FROM DEATH because I WAS TWO SECONDS FROM RECOMMENDING THIS CHANNEL TO HER. Well technically to the group of four we had that day, we'd been talking about books and booktubers earlier, but the convo shifted just before I could namedrop Rachel and thank FUCK it did can you believe that we were like milliseconds away from me recommending someone their own fucking callout video like oh my god i need to lie doooown
Also before anyone asks: I don't talk to Emily much, we work in different areas, but from our interactions they are very nice, sweet, and pleasant irl. I'm honestly really lucky to work with them as they're very helpful and nice, my surprise is just from the association with insane online culture + my love of this channel + the fact i referenced two Rachel videos in our convo prior (anne perry + jay kristoff vids). like holy shit
The most normal people can be vile on the internet the safety of the internet allows them to feel like they have no consequences
new drinking game; take a shot evertime a new hyped up book started out as a Reylo fanfic
I haven't read any that I know, but it's Hurricane Wars, this, and Love Hypothesis at least.
And why are like half of them racist??? Like this is the 3rd reylo fanfic turned book that the author was racist
As a Polish person I need to point out: we really don't like beeing called Eastern Europe, we are Central Europe. Thanks! ;)
oh shoot! will make sure to remember to remember this going forward. Thanks for telling me.
@@ReadswithRachel Sure thing, I really appreciate that! It's kind of an in-joke in my country, but some people can get honestly really heated about it (because of our history, especially after WWII) and I felt the need to warn You before someone comes and writes something angry here ;)
As a they/them, I really appreciate that you left in your mistake and apologized and corrected. I really think that needs to be normalized. I feel like too many people wayyyover correct and apologize when a my bad and correction is all that’s needed. ❤
I’m glad to hear this, i really appreciate you letting me know ♥️
@@ReadswithRachel I agree. Misgendering is awful, but people over-apologizing has only ever been embarrassing to me and makes the whole thing come off as a drag instead of being treated as a normal thing that shouldn't be a big deal. The way you dealt with it was very appreciated
absolutely feel the same that people wayyy over correct when they mess up my pronouns. Its just, stop, say the sentence again correctly and move on! by stopping and correcting the sentence is enough apology for me :)
Great comment. You're exactly right. Ownership of our mistakes is much more admirable than a culture of perpetual infallibility.
I also appreciate it as a fellow they/them
it's a bit frustrating to see over and over that people think that just because they can write about/enjoy content with abusive elements, that it means they can't have sympathy for the people they're potentially exposing it to without any sort of warning. its not impossible to enjoy those things and still be compassionate to them and respect their boundaries. i hate this "oh ur uncomfortable with this, lemme explicitly harass u with the thing u don't like" sorta mentality in these spaces
agreed
Right!? I personally roleplay via literature and the profile I use to do so has a pinned post stating that my posts will not have trigger warnings and lists all the possibly triggering themes that will come up in them. I write the dark fantasy that deals with heavy topics; but I make sure to warn people IMMEDIATELY; as much as I love writing dark themes I want people to know what they're getting into and that is why that pinned post is public and my writing posts are for friends only. If they agreed to be my friend I assume they had read my rules and agree to the terms.
it stuck with me that in their apology for their intentional “sensitive” antisemitism they spelled it anti-Semitic. It is quite telling on the extent and effort of their research going into it that they can’t even spell it correctly. Here’s an explanation from the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance:
“The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) would like to address the spelling of the term 'antisemitism', often rendered as ‘anti-Semitism’. The IHRA’s concern is that the hyphenated spelling allows for the possibility of something called ‘Semitism’, which not only legitimizes a form of pseudo-scientific racial classification that was thoroughly discredited by association with Nazi ideology, but also divides the term, stripping it from its meaning of opposition and hatred toward Jews.
The philological term ‘Semitic’ referred to a family of languages originating in the Middle East whose descendant languages today are spoken by millions of people mostly across Western Asia and North Africa. Following this semantic logic, the conjunction of the prefix ‘anti’ with ‘Semitism’ indicates antisemitism as referring to all people who speak Semitic languages or to all those classified as ‘Semites’. The term has, however, since its inception referred to prejudice against Jews alone.
In the mid-nineteenth century, the derived construct ‘Semite’ provided a category to classify humans based on racialist pseudo-science. At the same time the neologism ‘antisemitism’, coined by German journalist Wilhelm Marr in 1879 to designate anti-Jewish campaigns, was spread through use by anti-Jewish political movements and the general public. The modern term gained popularity in Germany and Europe incorporating traditional Christian anti-Judaism, political, social and economic anti-Jewish manifestations that arose during the Enlightenment in Europe, and a pseudo-scientific racial theory that culminated in Nazi ideology in the twentieth century. Although the historically new word only came into common usage in the nineteenth century, the term antisemitism is today used to describe and analyze past and present forms of opposition or hatred towards Jews. In German, French, Spanish and many other languages, the term was never hyphenated.
The unhyphenated spelling is favored by many scholars and institutions in order to dispel the idea that there is an entity ‘Semitism’ which ‘anti-Semitism’ opposes. Antisemitism should be read as a unified term so that the meaning of the generic term for modern Jew-hatred is clear. At a time of increased violence and rhetoric aimed towards Jews, it is urgent that there is clarity and no room for confusion or obfuscation when dealing with antisemitism.”
Wow, thank you. That's new knowledge
Wow, I had no idea. Ty for explaining it
i remember there were also some jewish readers who came forward on twitter saying that they had met duncan at author events and told them like "hey just wanted you to know that your book has this really harmful antisemitic trope in it" and they were made fun of by duncan to their faces for pointing it out
Oh my god that’s horrible
It being a Reylo fic EXPLAINS SO MUCH about why I wanted to throw this book across a room. I like fanfic, but I like GOOD fanfiction
@4:40 I'm jewish (not european descent which is Ashkenazi, but I'm Sephardic - Mediterranean specifically) and I had heard about this situation in general terms but the specific description of "vermin-like" and everything... OOOOOH HOOOOOO BOI.
Someday people will stop trying to write "Slavic fantasy" after reading two Wikipedia pages and scrolling through a Pinterest aesthetics board. Not today, but someday... The idea that antisemitism and several misinterpretations of a white nationalist pagan movement are somehow representative of any Slavic city, let alone two major countries, is both preposterous and offensive.
I feel like Emily never left their high school stage 😬
Yeah I feel the same way Emily definitely does act like a teenager
yeah those threads of Emily and jess cluess has major "mean girls" vibes
You ever do an ABB video on that one author who was so mad at this one woman who left him a slightly negative review that he found out where she worked, bought a train ticket and went to her place of work and beat her with a wine bottle in the store?
The most ABB thing i have ever seen.
Richard Brittain! Yes, i have a video on him.
Hope you feel better soon! :) I've noticed some authors/fans of authors defending their no-trigger-warning stance with the explanation that it gives away plot twist(s) or important parts of the plot, etc. But what they don't understand is that those who have no need for trigger warnings WON'T read them and just skip that page, while those who need them WILL. There are people out there who have suffered years of PTSD or are still suffering from it because someone has tortured them physically/mentally/emotionally and writing TW on 1 freaking page so such people wouldn't be needlessly hurt further really shouldn't be a problem. And readers who don't need TW simply won't read that page.
YES. I can sometimes not handle miscarriage in books, other times i just need to know beforehand if its in a book so i can get to a good headspace before engaging. i SUPER need trigger warnings for that.
Honestly authors thinking their story’s plot deserves to be protected more than VICTIMS is entitlement and selfishness to the MAX!!
The “tempest in a teapot” comment likely is a reference (more likely a dig) at Hafsah Faizal’s new book coming out called The Tempest of Tea.
oh shit i hadnt thought of that
Gosh, I almost forgot all this happened. I especially forgot that Rin Chupeco was involved, since they had an incident of their own. But this is a great reminder that I did really want to check out Hafsah Faizal’s books.
WE LOVE HAFSAH HERE
I received the Owl Crate edition when the book first came out. And before I even knew the rest, I had to DNF because the writing was so bad. I think they used the phrase "it stood to reason" at least once per chapter, up to the 30 percent mark where I stopped reading. I am considering finishing the book just to count how many times that phrase was abused. lol
Emily is “it stood to reason” as Sarah J Maas is to the M dash
I feel validated in my DNFing of this book. I am Eastern Orthodox so I found the whole magic system that Duncan used for the Russian country as it was just weird to me. They included prayer beads but doesn't really match how EO use prayer beads at all. They used saints and praying to saints but they didn't really understand how praying to saints work. The "saints" function like a pantheon but that just completely is not how it works. Saints can do miracles and we can petition for miracles but the deity like way they wrote the saint/pantheon was uncomfortable to me. I also remember vividly sitting on a plane flying home from my Grandfather's funeral and I read that character lit an incense stick and stuck it behind her ear. I literally closed the book and stared into space. That is not the type of incense we use at all and isn't how we use incense. It just felt to me that Duncan wanted to write a Russian based fantasy without really researching Russian spirituality and church. I am shocked about the antisemitic part of the plot as that was something I completely missed.
This 100%. I’m also Eastern Orthodox. While I don’t mind people including some aesthetic aspects of our faith in a story (especially if they’re inspired by a culture/world region where that religion is predominant), but I felt constantly insulted while reading about this. Nadya is supposed to be a cleric, but the surface-level way religion was handled here made it clear to me that either Duncan’s incapable of writing a character who has fully internalized her religious beliefs the way she claims, or Nadya never actually believed in the first place (maybe both). The way this series’ religious system was so awfully squandered actually motivated me to write a Labyrinth retelling to prove that it can actually be done well and convincingly. I also missed the antisemitic plot line while reading, but looking back so many things about the plot make me cringe if I view them in that light.
I definitely appreciate everything you wrote, but one specific thing stuck out at me: a character*lit* a stick of incense and stuck it behind their ear??? Maybe there's something I'm majorly missing from a religious / cultural perspective, and maybe there's just a type of incense of never seen used, but... has Duncan ever actually used incense? Like, it burns? the end gets hot? It diminishes as it burns until the lit end would get close to or touch the skin? What am I missing? But to reiterate, support for your comment 100%, but massively confused over that detail.
@@MortMe0430 You are right to that is seems like a safety hazard. In the scene it was supposed to have th incense sit in a bowl to burn. My main issue is that the Orthodox church doesn't use stick incense. I am not familiar with the technical terms for what we use so bear with me as I describe it. Esenssially beads of frankincense are used. The way it is used is that there is a censor that has a lit piece of coal in it and the beads are placed on top of the lit coal which causes the smoke. The censor is then used be priest of deacon to bless the congregation, icons, or others things depending on the service. Sticks are practical with the swinging motion of the censor as it is centrivical forms that keeps the coal and beads on it. Sticks would not work so well.
Is Emily A Duncan currently a protestant or were they raised in a Protestant denomination? Bc that could explain their understanding of saints as a “pantheon” of sorts. I’ve been raised as a seventh day adventist and I’m currently in another Protestant denomination, and that’s the understanding most Protestants have of the catholic/EO faith. I was essentially taught that catholics/EO worshipped idols (which I now know is just plainly untrue).
I know this is an older video but I’m so glad for the book recommendation/review site/app I’ve been using offers a spot for users to add trigger warnings in a non-spoilery manner to books, fulfilling the best of both worlds I feel.
Story Graph, it’s been a great site to find new favs, track your reads, and vet books for loads of common triggers to either avoid them or mentally prepare for them as I choose. It’s a great little site that needs more love imo.
I adore storygraph for this exact reason!
I remember when this happened and the minute Rin said it was on a slack account I called that it was Hafsah (I'd been helping promote her book at the time and remember some things said in the Slack for her street team).
I'm sorry, she KNEW SHE WAS BEING ANTI SEMETIC AND DID IT ANYWAY???? WHAT?
that last part is still what gets me. They knew and then just... did it anyway. WHY?
My Romanian azz perked tf up as soon as you said Slavic influences
Mine too as another Romanian
I heard about Jay Kristoff doing this along with Emily. I cannot believe a guy who claimed that his main inspiration for writing Stormdancer was "eating pocky, have his friends yell things in Japanese and sleep on a pile of manga books". Like what? That's not research, that's....I can't think of the word but that's not how you do your research. Really ignorant of him to do that, not a good look.
He sounds like a weeb
@@Aurelian369_ You might be right but he's uncultured is what he truly is.
@@katherinedonovan974 I’m Asian and I hate how some people think Asian cultures can be boiled down to stupid pop culture things
@@Aurelian369_ I'm so sorry you have to deal with that...People are so ignorant!
@@alpha1solace Close, it was Jay Kristoff. Check out the different videos people did and it will tell you the same thing.
I don't really follow author drama but I remember reading Wicked Saints after seeing the hype and had to put it down after just about 2 chapters bc I felt the way they wrote the clearly desi-coded characters in such a fetishy and exoticised way made me super uncomfortable. I vaguely remember thinking, "There's no way she's on the level." Sad to be proven right
That is super weird that they knew they were incorporating antisemitic plot points into the book and published it like that anyway. Honestly, why is anyone antisemitic? I don't get it at all. Also, Wicket Saints was really, really boring. It's weird how authors who have a huge following can get away with more mediocre books.
right? online presence has really led to mediocre books getting more and more sales
I hope you feel better soon and I hope no flies ever land in your tee!
I am now addicted to this problematic authors series. Thanks!
Yeah I love the videos on problematic authors
Thanks yall!
Why do they have to drag Poland into this 😭 we did nothing to deserve this?????
“Don’t spill on the computer” lol I hate how often i end up saying that
oh my god... youre right. I hadnt thought of this but ive seen breakaway and their pieces are way shorter.
It's been a long time since I've been on a fanfiction site, but don't they usually have tabs at the top of the story to let you know what is going on in it? I feel like a lot of things could've been avoided had that been an option.
"I hate Florida" hahaha you always make me laugh 🤣
Every time I’m upset about politics here in Texas i can think “at least it’s not Florida”
Why on Earth would anyone think it was okay to write a book based on Blood Libel Magic at this late date . . . ?
LMAO the cassy clare fans are ruthless, good choice with this one haha
they really are lmao im scared
Im dying because I remember when this was first announced, it was early days of social media marketing for books (at least in the way we see now with beautiful artwork, and intriguing quotes from the book laid over it, with atmospheric music, and a link to the publisher’s website) and I was SO HYPED for it, and then I never heard another thing about it, until this video!! 🤣🤣🤣
When you said "you knew???" I immediately followed with YOU FEWCKING KNEW!!!!!!!! And i hate that for me
Damn i went to college with emily and this is wild. I never really got along with her (i dunno kind of felt like she never respected me) but she didnt seem like a terrible person by any means.
I really enjoyed the wicked saints trilogy I only read the first two books and was planning on reading the final book when I found out about Emily's horrible behavior I was shocked and appalled and have decided not to read anymore of Emily's work
i read the first two as well, but yeah i wont be reading the third either
I was the same. I didn't know enough about Jewish culture to know this series was bad when I read it. I loved it so much. I do wish their bad behavior had come out and that I'd known about the issues with the series before I bought the third book and some merchandise. I just can't bring myself to read the last book now
I just want to say Rachel, that I really enjoy your content! Please put yourself first though if you ever feel as though you need to take a break from filming! I hope that you feel better very soon!
Thank you so much!
The way I stopped eating my lunch, fork halfway to my mouth, when you mentioned Emily triggering an incest survivor. What the actual hell.
Bigelow Thoat Coat lemon echinacea tea with honey is my go to "sick" tea! Its not as bitter as chamomile and other sick teas in my opinion
Thank you! I gotta try that because this tea was NOT IT
How does someone research a topic and decide to include it when the most respectful thing is to avoid it entirely.
I've changed characters appearances because of how story dynamics MAY change, but this person decided they would just continue even though they knew it was wrong? And they are only coming out with an apology because they're career is on the line? (They might write under a pseudo name in a few months)
I'm new to book twitter, but now I'm unlisting this book from my TBR list. Hope you feel better soon
Thank you! My voice is back so i no longer sound like carrie fisher in episode 8
Thanks for the reminder, officially a member of the Court of S&G 🤣. Also I LOVE this series, it's just such a great tea spilling time ☕
Tess!!!! Thank you so much for joining 💜🥺😭😭😭😭
@@ReadswithRachel thank YOU! I really enjoy your content and I appreciate all the work you put into it! 💜
i read wicked saints and i was underwhelmed until like the last hundred pages so i got the second book and was even… more underwhelmed. then i heard about their controversies and decided not to support them by buying their books anymore.
She totally dropped off the face of earth after this 😂😂
Just GONE
I remember all this going down and was extra bummed about it given I moderated a panel they were on and they seemed way cooler than they ended up being.
I remember that panel!!!!
This was when I first joined bookstagram... into the fire xD
Dang you jumped in right when the heat was blazing
I'm surprised you haven't covered Empress Theresa's author, Norman Boutin for authors behaving badly. Highly recommend reading the terrible book and reviewing the equally terrible author.
it's coming soon! it's on my list
'I’m Theresa, the younger daughter of Edward and Elizabeth Sullivan, and I hope it’s not bragging to say I was cute as heck at age ten. Everybody in the family said so. I was the princess in the Sullivan clan of Framingham, Massachusetts because besides being cute I was a whiz in school and had a good disposition. All the relatives expected great things from me.'
this book ruined my life when i heard about it
4:27 THE WAY MY JAW DROPPED AT THIS SCREENSHOT
A Reylo fic is abusive and EXTREMELY bigoted. Not surprised. It's like expecting a Twilight fic that isn't glamorizing abusive controlling rich guys.
Oh man I did not think id end up with pro shipper bull again, that thing haunts me everywhere i go
there is something distressingly "oh, of course it would be" about this series having started as reylo fanfic.
Girl, take care of your voice!!!
thank you so much! my kids get sick CONSTANTLY and i always end up with it
I literally just bought this book yesterday and then this video popped up today 🙃
AS SOON AS YOU SAID THERE'S A FLY IN HERE A FLY FLEW PAST ME LMAOOO!!! 😭😭😭
The grisha thing is so bad at actually doing the Slavic culture.
For reaaal
So I actually remember this incident REALLY clearly because I was like... not in it, but adjacent to adjacent, enough that it was incredibly stressful at the time. I feel like I was so much younger then even though it wasn't THAT long ago, lol, and it was during the time I was trying really hard to get a YA book published - I submitted to Author Mentor Match (if y'all know what that is) which I think both E.Duncan and Christine Lynn Herman were part of; I didn't get picked by either of them, but one of the 'mentors' did pick my manuscript up who was sort of on the fringe of the group they moved in. Also, they were doing a book signing together near where I lived, so I took the opportunity to go out to see them. I got both their books, we chatted, they had apparently both seen my manuscript and complimented it so I was VERY starry-eyed, etc. I went on working on my book (note: AMM was not useful, don't recommend it) slowly fell out of contact with my 'mentor', and wound up disliking both their books after reading them lol, but still followed her and both of them on Twitter. And then, well, one day I went on Twitter and saw people talking about how E.Duncan had been called out, they were the worst, etc, and Christine had made that tweet, etc.
And it really fucked with me! Especially the part where people who'd been friendly with them were turning on a dime to disclaim that, which felt (although it's hard to know) mostly fueled by 'I don't wanna go down with this person' rather than a genuine moral reaction. Also, bc internet callout, things escalated VERY fast and hard and it was hard to sort out what exactly had happened before Duncan was just straight-up gone. Once I had the mental ability to go and research after the fact it was clear they'd genuinely fucked up, but the whole situation just... blew whatever shine there was off YA twitter and made me genuinely question if I ever DID want to get traditionally published. So it was a harrowing experience at the time, but in retrospect it made me delete my twitter which was the best decision I ever made lol, so there's a silver lining to everything.
Please do Rin Chupeco!!!
it's coming! it's on the list
not 4 million?! chile. these companies are really trying it.
“Their book features people in fantasy Poland using blood magic, which is similar to blood libel”
Ok bit of a stretch but I’m listening
“And the main villains are a group of dark haired dark eyed rat-like creatures who control the government and are ruled by a guy named Malachi”
HOLY SHIT 🚩🚩🚩
Revisiting some of the ab videos, to counter act the bad behavior would you consider starting authors etiquette series to show case great authors demonstrating 🆒 or spotlight authors you think deserve more acknowledgement of their cool choice's as a decent human being. It's a free idea take it or anyone else who wants to 😅
Edit: I'm still like the series I like to avoid supporting horrible people
Hey! I’m working on an “authors behaving excellently” video it’s just the person I chose for episode one is someone I have a lot of stuff to talk about so it’s a long video and it’s taking me a while.
Awe sweet! Thankyou for the hard work.
Oh no I just got this book wicked saints from BOTM - I didn't know about this
no way! BOTM is pushing wicked saints???
@@ReadswithRachel I got it as an add on so I wouldn't say they were pushing it but they do have it.
OMG, I'm curious about the Rin Chupeco part! What is it with her that makes her included in the "Authors Behaving Badly" list?
I’m doing a video on it soon !
Of course, she's a reylo shipper. It's not surprising...
“Rin Chupeco behaving badly”
Noooooooooooooooooo. I loved her books. Fuuuuck
Later Carrie Fisher was rad as fuck
I had know idea how bad was Jessica cluess terrible behavior until now I'm definitely will not be reading anymore of her work either she's truly disgusting 🤢🤮😡
i couldnt believe she was so antagonistic, really concerning behavior on her end
as a Emily we don't clame them!
I have a question and don’t call me stupid but what does the tack thing mean
Can I ask what Rin did? I haven't been able to find anything from simple googling.
I have a video coming out on Rin soon!
Oh nooo … I wanted to read this and seeing this makes me unhappy
i mean if you already own it, oh well! at least now youll be educated on it beforehand
@@ReadswithRachel thankfully I do not and now know not to purchase it! Love you videos ❤️
*me leonardo dicaprio pointing* i remember that! also hope you feel better soon💜💜
Thank you!!!
Can someone fill me in on how Cassandra Clare behaved badly? I haven’t heard anything about it
Back in her fanfic days she was in some bad crowds, then there is the fact that the title the mortal instruments she originally used for a ron/ginny fic. Those are the big ones other than some things people don't like in the books themselves. For me I read her despite her bad past since she learned from it. She is also usually extremely supportive on social to fans.
Wait, what did Rin Chupeco do?
Duh, duh, duhn.
I remember this, I blocked them then.
smart move!
Huh… Jay Kristoff did something? Did I miss something during my covid black-out?
Oof there’s honest to god a whole LIST from him
What is up with all these authors?
i wish i knew lol
Thanks for the video, but please take care of yourself, you shouldn't feel obligated to put up content when you're in bad health, we can wait
Thank you friend!
what's with all these authors being into inc3st
Mackenzi Lee would make a good video bc yikes
As an incest survivor who ships Jonsa, I do have an issue with people comparing ships to real abuse and using that as a reason to harass shippers who can also be survivors especially since most real incest is adult or older family members sexually abusing children not adult cousins falling in love, it’s not really comparable in my opinion like nothing in Jonsa fic resembles child abuse. HOWEVER, the issue here was not that. It was the author saying a victim isn’t a real victim because they disagreed with them on Twitter and being completely dismissive of the need for trigger warning, that is horrible. There is a harassment from “antis” but there’s also horrible behavior from shippers sometimes too and when that shipper is an author with a large platform - yikes.
She’s a little scary looking…
honestly i looked like this in my emo phase in 2006 so i cant judge
Whenever you do one of these Authors Behaving Badly videos I think back on this drama from December 2019
ua-cam.com/video/Pq937pPBq6o/v-deo.html
If you didn’t hear about it.. enjoy
she's on the list!
Even if someone is a bad person you shouldn't publicly misgender them. Really should've edited out the parts where you misgender them. It's bad form and suggests you don't really take their gender seriously
if you’re looking for more ideas re: authors behaving badly, check out rebecca mix
I read her book and gave it two stars. My review will be up Friday. But I think other people have summarized the discourse better than me so I’m just gonna be referring out to them.
@@ReadswithRachel ooh can’t wait for your thoughts on the book!!