Cakegate just proves that if you think you're too underqualified to do something, there is always someone out there is even more unqualified than you are with double the confidence.
My friend fancies herself a seamstress. Cannot make a pair of child's trousers to save her life. Still took 40 euros for making them...got upset when suggested she should enroll to a school or class to learn more because she is self-taught.
this is the type of drama I adore. Like, there's no one committing any felonies, children aren't involved, it's just a crazy lady who makes shitty cakes
yeah! a lot of bakery’s who’s main focus is decoration use them and i love to use them in baking, but it’s INSANE to claim that it’s from scratch. idk if i’m just used to baking but i can tell somehow haha
Exactly! They were angry at the LIE not the fact it was a box mix, I can bet most people are FINE with box mix. As long as they are told the truth and priced FAIRLY
I completely agree. If you want to use box mix for you cake, whatever, box mix cake isn’t bad. But if you go and say, “oh yeah, this cake is made from scratch” while you’ve got a tub full of boxes of Betty Crocker™ Strawberry Cake mix, then you need to accept the criticism you’re getting. Especially if your cakes somehow manage to make the ones made on Nailed It! look like professional masterpieces and then you decide to sell them for up to $80.
My favorite part was when the original customer remade the cake she ordered and it turned out like 1000% better than the one she paid for. Like isn't the whole point of buying a cake instead of making it yourself supposed to be that a professional can do a better job than you can and that's why it's more expensive than just baking?
The worst thing about the Cakegate lady was not her cakes, but her HORRIBLE customer service! She not only didn't offer to make it right for her customer, but she took to social media to try to shame her customer for not liking her work. That level of hubris deserves all the trolling she's getting.
And add on top of that the audacity it takes to shame a client on social media when you're selling cakes made with BETTY CROCKER CAKE MIX for $80 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know!!! That’s what I was thinkin. I’m a new cake decorator (only been doing it 1.5 years) and I think I’m not very good sometimes but this made me feel better😂
The price wouldn’t bother me if it reflected the product. Like if it was well done, that’s fine for a price. It’s 6 cakes in one BUT did you see that cake??? It’s a mess. I’m also not one to pick on others unnecessarily. That cake for that price wasn’t ok
@Tea laBlu oh yeah, point was Moreso that if it's ugly it's not a super big deal but if I'm touching your icky gross goblin baker hands indirectly I'm way more mad For 80 bucks that shit better give me head too though, wild ass price
@@crispy7499 apparently it’s not super uncommon when handling food BEFORE it’s cooked because it’s kills the germs (that’s just what i’ve heard) but DEFINITELY no bare hands on ingredients that don’t get cooked, like the sprinkles.
As a small baker, I would NEVER publicly shame a customer, even if they are in the wrong. It’s just unprofessional and causes unwanted attention. I only want good vibes. I will now be publicly apologizing to any unhappy customer. This is why I don’t decorate cakes. I do Bundts and loafs. Decorating is something I’m still working on and I just don’t want to do it lol
@@mustangnawt1 😄 yeah. Masterclass and Skillshare are actually not bad sites. I always found it dumb until I started looking into culinary schools. Yeah I’ll learn in my kitchen lol Edit: I think they are good if you plan to work for self or homeskill learning. Not to find a job. There’s a lot more to be learned lol
Well and plenty of baking creators talk about customers being rude, but like....they have quality products. It feels off when her products aren't even that high quality
It's been a trend on TikTok for a while. Lots of small business owners do it in an attempt to go viral and get sympathy orders. Most of the stories are obviously fake too.
@@thekaren1111 Sadly I too also agree with that. I didn’t like the video or watch it all the way through lol. I don’t like bashing of any kind. Video popped up and I got curious as a baker.
The worst part about the Wednesday cake is that she not only stole the idea, she claimed the white part was her idea, and I'm dumbfounded at how stupid that was a claim
"I'm not sure who designed it but shout out to them." Has the same energy as people who pick art off of Pinterest and credit Pinterest or say "credit to the artist"
I am in a baking class, we had never heard of this until a classmate pulled it up. My Chef, who had a legit cake business before, was absolutely baffled someone would charge that much for this cake. Like there isn’t even a final layer! She threw sprinkles on the CRUMB COAT.
The cross contamination she does is really what pisses me off, I took a year long pastry course. Health and Safety was pounded into us because you could seriously cause someone a major allergic reaction and end up in a lawsuit
@@fandomchatfabi75It means you mix the previous material or bacteria,virus erc with the other materials you use afterwards. For example you put nuts on a cake and started to make another cake without washing your hands or cleaning the enviroment which still contains nuts. Therefore the other cake contaminated with nuts that can cause allergic reaction despite it shouldnt have nuts in it
As someone who LOVES smoothies but is very allergic to cantaloupe, its always scary when i order a fruit smoothie anywhere because I'm afraid of cross contamination. like I'm very allergic, even cut open cantaloupe on the same cutting board of other fruit will leave me bed ridden if i eat that fruit.
This is Cert I Hospitality stuff here in Australia. Every time you do something, you wash your hands. It was also explained in Hospitality that gloves were only to be used if you needed to cover cuts or similar, as the use of gloves has a tendency to result in people being lazy with washing their hands.
For anyone how doesn't know the mysterious brown stuff on the side of the cake tin is slightly burnt cake mix which means that she didn't wash the cake tin before making the cake
@@jasonellsworth3256 It definitely is. Federal regulations require that bakeries/pastry shops/etc. should properly wash and sanitize their cake pans - as well as other baking utensils - after every use. Failure to do so can run the risk of exposing your customers to food-borne illnesses or allergens. And even if it's baked-in grit that can't be washed off, it's just better to get a new pan and throw that one out. Pans like that are relatively inexpensive to replace.
Pricing an 8-inch cake for $75.99 is absolutely ridiculous and a rip off. I’ve been working at a small, family owned bakery for two years now and our most expensive cake that feeds 40 people is 80 dollars. Not to mention that our cakes are beautifully decorated and have been a sensation for over 80 years. I’m literally so horrified that someone could get away with selling that crap pile of a cake for ALMOST 80 DOLLARS….it has nothing to do with her being a small business and everything to do with her lack of skill level.
same here! I work at a very small bakery and from us a cake an 8 inch cake is between 30-40 dollars. Ours look much better than that as well and aren't made with standard box mix. 10 dollars per single inch of cake from a local bakery is absurd
$80 is reasonable for a custom cake if it's done by someone who knows what they're doing and puts emphasis on making it look perfect. The fraudulent images are easily worth $80-$100 (hers not so much)
I just bought an 8 inch Bundt cake from a bake shop for a birthday for someone and it was $49.20 please tell me I didn’t get ripped off😭the place is really good though so the quality isn’t an issue but I wanna know if that’s considered too much
yes i'm late, but as a baker's child, the first video made my jaw DROOOOPP..the cake is slanted, the sprinkles being dumped, the extras probably being reused even if they have frosting on them, no gloves for anything, THE CAKE BEING SLANTED, the frosting (possibly buttercream) between the cakes being uneven..need i say more..
People who specialize in decoration absolutely can and often do use box mix, usually with a few tweaks to the additive ingredients to make it a bit more yummy. In that case, the customer is paying for the frosted art! Kylie’s, though… that’s not worth anywhere near that much. And she insists it’s homemade…..:
As a young baker, I think this is absolutely hilarious 😂. This woman is out here butchering cakes that weren't even made from scratch and being rude as hell to any criticism. This shit is fantastic 😂
I'm literally 16 and I only bake to bring something for family events because I can't cook for shit, but I'm absolutely convinced I could do a better job than this holy shit. They're so lazily done I don't get why she cares so much about them when she clearly didn't put much effort in 💀
@Spider you are absolutely right. I made a trunchbull cake from the movie matilda from scratch, and it looked at least 3 times better than her cakes. And I'm only 13
@@Spidertheidiot dude I my 9yr brother could probably do better then what she did, and he would probably be so happy that someone likes his cake he wouldn't charge TvT Her cakes look awful!
"I wouldn't talk about other people's appearance If your eyebrows can't agree on what timezone they're in" I am in shambles- this is now added into my offense book
As someone who bakes for a living, this has been so fascinating to me. I constantly feel as if I overcharge for my cakes, no matter the time and energy I put into them, but I do charge upwards to 80 dollars depending on how big or elaborate it is. 80+ for a simple sprinkle cake with a glob of icing and sloppy "happy birthday" is outrageous. Also, the mystery brown and the red on the pans are most likely baked on cake batter... from a completely different cake.
as a cake decorator who works at a grocery store i sometimes worry over how my cakes look but at least i know they are exponentially better than this woman’s expensive ass cakes lol
baker here! i just wanna add that it’s totally normal to not use gloves when baking cakes & decorating them. we wash our hands 24/7 and wearing gloves can make it harder to decorate
this girl here has been exposed for also using dirty bowls , so while i agree with you, this girl here im betting isn’t washing her hands as much as she should..
@Discordia5 just want to say but this is a dangerous sentiment to have when it comes to baking/cooking. Some bacteria need an insanely high temperature to kill them. Bacteria spores can be as much as 10^5-fold resistant to heat than their regular counterparts.
If one of my siblings made a cake for me, I would be so touched that I wouldn't even care that it didn't look perfect. I'm sure your sister felt the same :)
Baking tip: if you use milk in box mix it comes out much better. Also adding some extra vanilla to a vanilla mix, or a pinch of coffee to a chocolate mix it makes them even better ^-^
@@KN1GHT_ I think they meant the milk would be the substitute as opposed to using it in combination with water. Otherwise, it'd end up too watery and not cook right. I know I'm not the og commenter but hopefully that's helpful :) I've baked a few cakes before (mostly with box mix) so I think milk + water would overpower the powder
@@KN1GHT_ milk is the substitute for the water! The fat from the milk adds more richness and body to the cake mix. An extra egg gives more stabilisation, rise, and helps it hold together long term. Butter instead of oil gives a different mouth feel and a minor alteration in the flavour profile Adding a spoonful of pudding mix or custard powder also adds body and richness, and custard especially is amazing for sponge cakes to make them fluffier
I used to know a professional baker, and her cakes were GORGEOUS. She charged only a little bit more than this lady for masterpieces, and she made the cake recipes, syrups and frostings herself… this is kinda crazy lmao
@@lauralaforge558things like this tend to be passion projects- more than likely, they’re not making much, but they’re doing what makes them happy, which you gotta respect on some level
Someone definitely told her to create a cake business after she gave them some and she took it seriously, and everyone just enabled her and said Yes so she can’t fathom that she’s not good at it. At. All.
It's not that she's not good, it's that she definitely is lacking the experience of cooking school/of the kitchen. I believe she would be perfectly fine as a home cook, but not as a pro/as a cooking business owner.
Just to point out, many cake decorators use box mix that they then improve a bit with different liquid ingredients, as cakes really are edible chemistry, cake mix is gonna make a consistently good cake every time. You’re paying for their time and expertise in decorating, and many of them do have really amazing decorating skills. So the cake mix thing isn’t really that big a deal, it’s the charging so much for such subpar decorating and customer service
i also haven't seen anyone else mention this but professional bakers do scoop sprinkles onto cakes with their hands. ive also seen alot of bakers roll sprinkles onto the cake (the cake is frozen so that it doesn't fall apart). it's just that when she does it it looks like shit cause she doesn't know anything about decoration.
@@biggestastiest i've seen professional bakers scoop sprinkles too, but like the way that they do and she does it is very different. for one, they don't dump the sprinkles all on top of the cake and just spear it around the cake like that.
@@biggestastiest To put sprinkles on a cake you would actually press them into the frosting a bit by taking a cupped handful of them and pushing them into it to create an even coating, dumping them on like that then haphazardly pushing them round the cake would make it look... Well like her cake. Plus with the added writing on top there shouldn't have been sprinkles dumped on top in the first place so that smear of icing wouldn't have been necessary to write on the cake. That's why most cakes covered into sprinkles either aren't written on, or have a rim of sprinkles on top with a blank space in the center.
@@lilliepad_froh I've just made it SOOO many times, and even just making it kinda makes me feel nauseous sometimes bc its just sugar mixed with marshmallows (more sugar) so I mean, yea its good bc sugar is good but that much of it kinda kills any flavors you were hoping for when you made that cupcake. Plus, it's just lazy to put a huge circle of fondant atop a cupcake like that...
@@lilliepad_froh blaaaahaahaha, you really could!! They looked like little tables that were probably the perfect size for that small $70 pile of sprinkles with a side of cake, lol
My issue with her cakes is not even that they’re bad but that she just does them so LAZILY. If she took the time to draw a good circle, a straight line, fix mistakes it would look so much better… ahhh
2:27 I got a cake around the same price from a woman who was only baking as a hobby. 3 layer cake with perfect texture and amazing icing that was decorated so well and beautifully. It took me days to get through the whole thing, it was worth the cost and I buy from her for most cake events. But if she gave me this for what I paid- I would’ve sobbed
there's a lady who bakes beautiful cakes down the st from my folks, made a cake for my sister's wedding, we gave her $60 and it looked like it was straight out of a storybook
I would totally pay eighty dollars for that original Wednesday cake design, it looked SPECTACULAR, like one of those creations almost too beautiful to be destroyed.
Me too! That Joe guy is crazy talented because that Wednesday cake is so beautiful that even if he charged more than $80 for it, I still wouldn't mind paying
"our signature rainbow cake" she keeps acting like it's so special and iconic when it's no different than those rainbow cakes you would find at a grocery store she literally named the same icing they used for the grocery ones at Costco and number of layers exactly like a store bought cake 😭😭
I’m a home baker (just making stuff for my family and friends) and it’s baffling to me that she sells cakes like that without feeling genuinely guilty. How can you take someone’s money for something you just sloppily put together??
honestly using boxed mix isn't a mortal baking sin. They're a solid base that turns out consistent results, and if the decorating is more your strength they can let you focus on that. Here's an easy way to make a boxed cake mix better: add 1 small box instant pudding in a matching flavour, 1 extra egg and an extra 1/4 cup oil (and consider swapping half the oil with melted butter). Sub out the water with milk or (even better) buttermilk It will be extra moist and flavourful, with a really nice crumb texture. Not too heavy, not too delicate.
Thank you so much for this, I've wanted to start my own baking and decorating business once I got good at decorating and was really nervous about that 😭
It isn’t a bad thing to use boxed mix, but she claimed that it was made from scratch and for a cake made from boxed mix it should NOT be 75$ even if she was a good decorator 😭
Usually when bakeries make sprinkle cakes, they ice the cake and put it in the freezer to set up and make them more stable then they role the cake into the sprinkles. It gives better coverage and it looks better than just throwing them on.
Decorate most cakes you have to chill the icing before you can even start doing anything because if you just decorate the icing while it's hot there's a chance of everything that you doing literally just falling off of the cake😂
Literally how it's done you put it into the fridge though and let it firm up because freezing makes thr frosting too firm and the sprinkles start to run colour
Super late but that genuinely looks like something I’d make for a highschool assignment while having a total mental breakdown from the pressure and escalating disaster like I can picture myself sobbing while I smeared frosting all over the cake stand thing along with the uneven cake. So props to her for not doing that and actually being extremely confident in her cakes ig
Someone who knows a lot about baking here: Cake mix can be used in bakeries, but they aren't expensive Like That unless it's an incredibly complex cake (the rainbow cake is not with the way she made it.) Most cakes have a thin layer of frosting called the crumb layer, it catches crumbs and makes them less likely to cause distortions in the final design. Fomdant isnt very tasty for most, so when its used it's typically a thin layer or is used more like a cake topper, something that gets removed before consumption. That frosting also seemed a bit dry, but it could've been the lighting.
@@Jujutsu_kaisen_ayyy Even if this comment is in audio form, I don't think you'll hear it anyway, in fact maybe skip it. So yeah just shimmy shimmy yay yo S outta here
dude... the original 'Wednesday' cake is so frickin gorgeous. i can't stop looking at it, the amount of detail is INSANE. if i got a cake like that i wouldn't even be able to eat it lol it's too beautiful, it deserves to be in a museum.
That Encanto ruined door frame cake is such a powerful message to the 6-year old child, really setting the mood for the future to come, in both idea and presentation. Complete with the actual literal stretched out character jpeg.
How sad is it that she willingly charges $50-$80 for her cakes when you can buy a store bought cake for $30 and the quality is 5x better. The sprinkle cake looks like she purposely butchered it and I understand why that customer was pissed when they got it lmao.. they literally could have gone to Walmart or Target for a higher quality cake.
@@gachapango2234 I wasn't talking about the cake mix, more of the presentation because it seems like that's where the majority of her complaints lie. I personally don't mind store bought cake mix, as I'm sure most stores use it for their cakes. ( And I've had several birthdays with Walmart cakes hahah. They're always really good!) Most people pay for the presentation of the cake. It's just insane how this girl presented the sprinkle cake to the customer without seeing it looked like complete garbage. Probably tasted fine, but it looked awful.
But that’s exactly what’s not the point. A small business can not charge so little. They need to charge more than a big company. But I do agree that if you charge 50-80 dollars it has to look good.
@@Maddie-nw2ii Yh I can totally agree with that the presentation was not it but bc it was indeed 6 layers 8” I said the most it should’ve been Is $45 but then again I’m from the uk so I mean £40-45
little tip from an at home baker: cake pans that DONT slide into eachother would make the cakes be prefectly straight (like you cant shove the same size pan in the other, it just would sorta sit on it) and to make store bought icing fuller, melt it a bit in the microwave and slap it in a stand mixer or a bowl with a hand mixer, just incorperate air into it and itll puff up a lil bit! If you dont have store icing, 4 sticks of room temp butter, mixed until sooth and 4-5 cups of powdered sugar, a teaspoon of vanilla extract (or any extract) and a pinch of salt, slowly add the powdered sugar because it will make a mess! mix on medium for about 8-13 minutes or until its fukky mixed, making sure to turn the icing over so nothing is stuck to the sides of the bowl or the bottom. It makes enough for the filling and a solid crumb coat! Happy baking!
Fr, it’s not a -Karen- entitled person thing to be mad that a cake you paid over 70$ for ended up looking like something you could cop for 5$ or even bake _yourself_ for free. _ANYONE_ would be mad about that. Kylie best be glad that lady wasn’t an actual entitled person because this would be one of the rare occasions where a real entitled person would be _justifiably_ mad. And they would’ve probably gone way farther too… unlike that nice lady who let that gigantic let-down slide not wanting to damage Kylie’s business and got slandered on the internet for it.
Seriously. I had a photographer actually tell his other clients to come after me, gave them my phone number because I criticized his work. I had a blog at the time, and in the blog I said I wasn't a fan of his work, but I didn't actually say his name or the name of his business. Suddenly my phone blows up with women threatening me. That photographer is no longer a photographer.
My mom was a pastry chef and spent most of her time in French style bakeries, but also did cakes. I'm her daughter, and have baked with her and tried to learn countless times growing up, but I lack her patience and artistic ability. That cake looks like one of my first attempts on my own as a 13 year old teenager trying to make a birthday cake for someone. It also looks a little melty and crooked. It helps to chill your cake before spreading frosting, and making the frosting fresh so it spreads easily... That's about all I remember.
Yeah it’s kinda in the name - frosting. It’s usually butter or oil based so if you put it on a freshly baked item it’s going to melt and separate. I don’t even freaking bake.
I knew a girl that sold cakes in college, her only experience baking was cooking class in highschool. She just liked baking and decorating cakes. She made amazing cakes! She make it from scratch with that good homemade icing I used to help her with her cakes between stuffy sessions. I only knew how to mix ingredients like she told me. This "local business woman" wishes she could make what us, barely out of highschool teens, were making. Seriously tho, that rainbow cake looks like something I could make.
Sometimes I recognize that it’s my delusional adhd-fueled optimism that makes me believe that I can do anything as long as I try…However, in this case I’m CERTAIN that I could decorate a better cake than hers. Hell, I’m confident I could remake every cake she’s posted and do it better.
as a former baker yes, most people with a level of artistic ability and a little patience can do better than she has. and you can do it without using cake mix! a good recipe really makes a cake
Absolutely same, I'm a complete novice to baking but good lord at least I try, I don't know how one count make a cake this ugly and then have the nerve to overprice it
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The cake mix thing isn’t a big deal. A lot of bakers use pre-mixed cake mix because all it is is flour, sugar, leveling and flavouring. However, most bakers who use cake mix don’t actually follow the directions. They add butter instead of oil, milk instead of water and add more eggs than it asked for. And they don’t charge so much for these cakes. But every other thing she did is inexcusable.
see I could never be those bakers because I'm terrified of changing a recipe. I swapped olive oil for vegetable oil once and hated the outcome so much that I've decided I will never do that. However I have changed the way I bake it. My dad puts a cup of water in the oven so that whatever he's baking is more moist, giving it a sponge cake texture and making it melt in your mouth.
Exactly right. I am a skilled home baker and I DO NOT use cake mixes, however, I’m not baking cakes to be elaborately decorated. The thing is, when you buy a cake for a wedding or other occasion, it’s really all about the decoration. Lots of these places use mixes, and yes they do beef them up so you don’t really notice. It’s a great shortcut that saves the bakery time and effort while achieving a reliable result. It’s really not a big deal. Everything else she did however seems to be a an affront to baked goods and customer service.
And that high price point is for the cake decorating, not the bake mix. Someone for their girlfriend paid $200 for this 8 inch thing ... but DAMN it was cute. That was my first introduction to pricey cakes. I'm good w/ store bought. But if I want something of the same caliber, I know how much to save up for.
Fun fact: many professional bakeries use boxed cake mixes and just alter them. Each one that i know of has their own secret way of altering the boxed cake mix. So on that point i dont really judge her. $80 is laughable tho
I think she just straight up used the box mix without altering it and claiming it was made from scratch. I mean, for $80 I would hope for a good quality cake that’s made from scratch
It's more so that this Kylie lady very firmly stated that she made her cake mix from scratch. It's not the bought mix people are mad about, it's that she lied about it to make herself seem like a better baker.
Mix makes good cake, with, yes, a few tricks (I'm still winning hearts and minds with the one I learned from my mother's secretary) but don't lie when asked.
I just wanna say that using cake mix and charging that much is fine if the cakes actually looks good. A great example is Bake My Day Mimo who uses store bought cake mix BUT her cakes decorating skills are amazing and her cakes always look so professional whether it’s a simple cake or a really extravagant cake sculpture.
Totally legit! I think people are pissed about the cake mix part because apparently she’s been claiming to make the cakes from scratch/denying that she uses mixes. If she was honest I think people wouldn’t mind so much (some people would definitely gripe about the price but ya know). But I definitely agree that with a lot of decorated cakes you’re paying for a piece of art made by an artist as opposed to buying a cake that is just focused solely on tasting good. This lady’s problem is that she acted like her cakes were both artistic/beautiful AND delicious/homemade when really they were neither lmao
The one cake with Encanto theme really reminded me of the cake Mimo made before. But Mimo's cake is way better and the details she put in her cakes are just amazing
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As a cake decorator at a grocery store, but by no means an expert, a couple points: * it's okay to use box cake mix as a cake maker/decorator, but you need to be transparent about it and make sure your customers know. It's also okay if you use the box cake mix as a base and then add or remove things to alter the recipe, but again, your customer should know (especially for potential allergies). Many large scale companies that sell decorated cakes actually source the cake part from a different company that provides pre-made, frozen cakes, and they taste just fine. But you can't lie to your customers about what you're using. * there are better ways to apply sprinkles on a cake. Typically, you can hold the cake in one hand (by using a cake board), and then with another hand (with a glove), you can scoop and gently pat the sprinkles onto the side. Some people do this over a large tub of sprinkles, and others do it over a long tray. Sometimes, people even chill the cake for a few minutes to get the frosting firm, and then roll the cake directly in the sprinkles. * she could have improved the appearance of the cake by piping a simple white border around the top or bottom. She could have used no sprinkles on the top to add contrast between the icing and sprinkles. She could have only done the bottom half of the sides in sprinkles. She could have forgone sprinkles altogether and simply using coloured icing to pipe a border. She could have put the sprinkles in the icing layers. She has many options. * when cooks, bakers, or many people who handle food have an option between gloves and bare hands, it's usually easier to just use your bare hands (it's better for firmer grips, and gloves can get messy because people tend to not change their gloves as often as they should). As long as you thoroughly wash your hands after touching anything other than the cake, you're good to go. That said, when working with sprinkles and icing, I don't know why she didn't opt for gloves, because that would have been easier in that instance. Professionalism isn't really the concern here, it's the health, safety, and practicality aspects that matter. * added onto the concern about lack of gloves from above, the weird red and brown stains/leakage are concerning. Cake batter being spilled is understandable, but cross-contamination between different foods is frowned upon and could even get you in hot water with the law if it triggers allergies. I also question how she washes her pans for cakes (hot water? Soap? Sanitizer? I know the food safety laws for Canada but I'm unsure about America). * many people gripe over the prices of cakes from small business owners, but they aren't cheap from grocery stores, either. Off the top of my head, from my own grocery store, if you want an 8 inch round cake (two layers) that was decorated in-store, it's going to be around $19.99 (CAN). If you want an 8 inch (two layer) cake from another company that we sell in our counter, it's between $24.99 and $34.99 (CAN). If you want something below $15, you need to buy a smaller pre-made, generic cake off the shelf. Don't even get me started on the price of sheet cakes (which can be between $35.00 and $90.00 CAN). And those prices are considered cheap in the cake economy. If you're buying from a smaller business, the cost is going to be higher based on the ingredients they buy locally, the time spent on the cake, and the competition and how popular they are. It is not surprising to pay over $70 for a custom cake. HOWEVER, after seeing the quality of the cakes this girl is selling, I think she is over-pricing her skill. I have deep respect for what people believe their work is worth, but you can get a cake from the grocery store that will look the same for substantially cheaper. * the lying and the drama ... I can't get over that part. I expect that from an influencer, but the smart business decision would be to apologize and refund the customer to make sure that your customer base remains happy with you. The cost of doing that now will be much cheaper than potentially losing tons of customers in the future. Plus, this damages the company image, and puts their trustworthiness at risk. The fact that she is purposefully antagonizing the public is not something I think she can afford - she's not a multi-million dollar company that can just fix their PR - and that's going to be the biggest business expense.
Ill start going to culinary school in hopes of becoming a pastry chef/baker. Thank you for giving me so much info on the topic. I enjoyed reading the whole thing and I genuinely think it might help me when I start going to Culinary School.
@@fouhiroyu I'm glad you could learn something, and I'm excited that you're going to be going into the food industry! I really hope you enjoy yourself :)
So I have some experience in a US dessert kitchen (in FL). We weren't in charge of making the desserts, but we plated them and put them on a buffet. Any and all food handling required gloves, and everything got washed in hot soapy water and a verified sanitizer at the end of the night or went through an industrial dishwasher that combines the wash and rinse cycles. In no world would we have been allowed to handle sprinkles with bare hands, even if they were freshly washed. This was at a corporate level, so it's possible a small, local business would be under slightly less strict guidelines, but even so, those bowls would absolutely not fly. It looks like either two different mixes were put in the same bowl, one after the other, without wash/rinse/sanitizing in between, or the bowl somehow had cooked cake bits stuck to it while she was making a new batter. Either way, cross contamination city, and an absolute no no.
oh my god thank you kind person for making this comment you gave a lot of good points! i can say in my parts most of this is true based on my experience and what i have study and yes i agree with the statement that there some people tends to forget to change the gloves often as they should since like you said gloves that been used already in other sensitive/easily contaminated Food to another food or surface could cost a Cross contamination whenever its unintentional or not.
She's actually pretty spot on, atrazine (a pesticide) is found in the drinking water in the US. It is a well known endocrine disruptor and did change the gender of frogs in studies. So who knows what it does to humans
For my 12th birthday, my mom tried to make a cake themed after my OC. Most of the baking stuff was packed away (we were moving out of the city at the time) so we basically put a couple of layers of cake together, smushed two large containers of pink and blue cotton candy on it, and drew facial features on with black frosting in a makeshift piping bag. And that cake, the cake that I still remember what it looked like, still looked much better than Kylie's.
I remember reading a reddit post about a woman asking if she was an a-hole for using box cake mix for all the times she was paid to make cakes. That may sound like she would be, but 1) it wasn't a business. These were all for family, friends, and the odd acquaintance that heard about her cakes and 2) she never charged for the ingredients. She actually said she could never really make cakes from scratch. Try as she might, she would get maybe one good cake out of 10 tries if she made everything from scratch. What she was good at was decorating. She apparently spent hours perfecting her decorating skills using fondant and frosting to make really pretty cakes and only charged for the time she spent decorating. It led to pretty cakes that were fairly inexpensive for the detail she put in, so her customers were all very happy and satisfied. She was wondering if she was a bad person for not disclosing that she used boxed cake mix. I think in this situation, its completely fine tbh. As long as no one's charging me for ingredients and they give me a beautiful cake that is decorated to my specifications. This situation is bad tho. This woman is scamming people and Idek how considering one look at her cakes and cake prices should be enough to deter anyone from frequenting her business.
Yep I remember that post too as soon as I saw the title of this video, using cake mix is fine if 1 the craftsmanship is good and 2 if you are seeking it at a reasonable price, this woman did neither of those things and on top of that denies she used cake mix.
Even if she charges a bit, as long as it's not 80 FREAKING DOLLARS, it's fine. Like, she still spends time and effort on the cakes. Getting like, up to a few dollars more than the money back for the ingredients is fine imo. If she's just doing it for friends and family. Though if she does charge more, or if she creates an actually business out of it, she should proooobably mention the cakes are from premade mixes. (Or at least not advertize them as made from scratch or whatever as the lady mentioned in the video apparently did.)
Most "cake" businesses are charging for the decoration and presentation. There is actually a chemical reason why box mix is ideal for decorating, as the consistency of box mix is more firm and spongey than most home made recipes. 90% of decorated cakes are box mix.
I follow someone on youtube who runs a cake business and freely admits she uses cake mix - and tells everyone. She says the cakes come out nicer than what she could make, and people prefer the flavour. She decorates the cakes beautifully, does heaps of really nice custom shapes and orders and makes lots of sales. I think if you're honest about it from the start then there's no issue - people can choose to shop elsewhere.
As an avid baker, there’s really nothing wrong with box mix. I don’t usually use it because I’m baking for the experience and I tend to make more unusual flavors. However, you can never match the perfected chemistry of large manufacturers for box mix. I would never tell a novice baker (or someone in a hurry) that they have to make it from scratch. Its the difference between an experiment and a guarantee. You will get a good cake if you use box. Anyway when you get a cake from a bakery you’re not paying as much for the cake as the decoration. Her decoration sucks haha
you will have a good cake _if_ you have the most bog-standard, focus-tested taste in cake. I personally enjoy my cakes to be like brownies and be so rich I _require_ milk to wash it down.
the issue isn't that she uses box mix... it's that she claims she makes her cakes from scratch... Scratch does not mean you throw together a box mix and call it from scratch
There’s a lot of bakers that people love on here who have admitted themselves to using box cake mix. It’s wrong when she does it but fine when they do. The cake is ugly but nitpicking her using cake mix is just ridiculous when a lot of content creators do the same thing.
As a daughter of 2 pastry chefs I am amused by this. I' grew up playing with fondant instead of play-doh and my parents have taught me all they know about their careers. My first red flag is that the cake on 2:42 seems to be TILTLED. Which is probably from uneven layers or she may have applied too much buttercream on one side of the cake causing the weight to tilt it down. On 2:50 you can see her using her hands to spread out the sprinkes. Normally I wouldn't think this is very professional. She should have used an icing smoother or those spatula things or whatever they are called to smoothen the sprinkles onto the cake. Thought 4:40 is disgusting I don't need to explain that. 10:45, Fusion text seems to change direction, size, and a bit of font on every cupcake. What I think is fondant or buttercream for the lightning bolt also seems to have changed A LOT. I also don't think the fondant on top of the cupcake isnt very.. neat, It's obviously too big as we pointed out. On 11:27 I was actually VERY impressed. Thought the brown stains look like shit and the heart looks okay I have a reason to believe she hired someone to make the figurine which is totally okay! It does seem to be a fucking wedding cake so that fucking sucks. Flowers are obviously fake so try better next time, I hope you gave them a refund because it could have been so much better. 11:49, For gods sake, My family is Colombian so we love Encanto and love making cakes of it, But Oh my FUCKING GOD. Please give those parents a refund. I'm literally praying that the Mirabel cut out is edible paper. Roof tiles are literally CRACKING. Meaning that she made it a while ago before handing it to the consumer, But hey! Atleast the flowers are REAL. We got 12:02 over here, Bows are actual really really good! You can see some cracks in the buttercream though. Heart is made terribly, looks like a 2nd grader made it. The Minnie Mouse ears have obviously been mESSED WITH A LOT. Moving on to 12:47 we got pirate cake. The skull emoji is giving the skull emoji on the cake the nasties side eye because what the fuck is that shit. Literally PRAYING that those arent real coins. 4/10 could be better. She should never price more than $10 on those cakes because those are horrific. Now moving on to our dear creators cake! 10/10 best cake I have ever seen. Great representation but remove the excess sprinkles at the bottom.
I actually thought the tilting of the cake might've been from the buttercream melting because the cakes were still fresh out of the oven (although with how the Tiktok is edited It seemed that way), or a lack of support dowels you'd find in more professional cakes.
God this review is legendary! I come from a family of bakers (like with a family owned bakery), and I entirely agree with this! Someone else said it first, but at 2:42 I think the cake was tilted because she didn't let it cool at all. she just slapped the buttercream on.
Using cake mix is acceptable if it’s decorated well, especially if it’s doctored up. (Adding milk instead of water, extra eggs, pudding powder, and additional flavourings are a good way to upgrade a box mix cake. For a denser cake an additional cup of flour is also an option.)
Totally. I made a buttercream painting cake for a friend and pimped out a box cake mix to compensate for how time consuming the decoration was going to be. They were really surprised when I let them know it was a box mix.
Id love to know more, especially about the pudding mix and flavorings. Didn't see those listed from the quick google search i did. Im not a good cook and box mix is usually my go to for the kids birthdays.
@@Blackcivicsi1 I'm not sure about the pudding mix, I'm curious about that too, but the additional flavouring is things like Almond essence in the vanilla cake and expresso coffee in chocolate cake, you could probably add something like lemon or orange juice and zest to make a lemon or orange cake, orange could also be added into a chocolate cake to make a Jaffa cake
@Blackcivicsi1 there's endless possibilities out there and people keep discovering new tweaks. One of my favorite ways to modify box mix is substituting the water with milk flavored with earl grey tea and subbing the vegetable oil with melted butter. One thing that was a total game changer for all of the cakes I make was using baking strips, helps round cakes bake with no crispy edge and way less doming.
The thing with the cake mix debacle is a Lot of professional cake artists use boxed mix! THey jsut don't do it as directed on the box; Usually they will use milk instead of water, or use more eggs, add other flavors, etc. This is because boxed cake is so consistent with it's texture that it's easy to experiment, and then get the same result over and over again. Consistency is really important in a business, and that shortcut makes sure of that! I know some people might think it's lazy or about saving money, but when they do all the adjustments the box + bonus stuff cake will cost jsut as much in materials as the from scratch cake- and it will likely be fluffier and taste better! Personally I don't mind that she does boxed! Her horrifying 80$ monstrosity though.. that is not alright.
I also don’t mind if bakers use boxed mix, it ends up the same because they’re using the same ingredients either way. The only time I’d have an issue with it is if they lie about it.
Yeah I was gonna say a lot of great bakers use mix. The issue with her cakes is the hygiene, quality, and attitude. She charged too much for a pile of 💩 then had the audacity to play blame games instead of being accountable
This was the comment I was looking for… a lot of bakeries use cake mix and it’s nothing wrong with it. Just make it look and taste better than what I can do
To be fair, box mix isn't "wrong" to use, and sometimes people will dress it up with other things (e.g. use box mix but add extra chocolate or flavorings). It's really common. But, if you're gonna do that, you better be good at decorating to make the price point worth it.
Yeah, I agree. I know one cake decorator from here on UA-cam that uses cake box mix, but they don’t just follow the directions on the box. They substitute those basic ingredients for better quality ones that make the cake taste homemade. Their videos also show how much care they put into the job and I know I’d feel like I’d be getting my money’s worth if I was to buy something from them.
Yeah box mix is not the biggest deal, but usually bakers who use cake mix have great fillings and buttercream/fondant decorations so the art of the cake makes up for it
I love how she’s wearing a true crime shirt while baking a rainbow sprinkle cake 👌🏻👌🏻 But seriously, I work in a bakery myself and we would get fired if we made a cake order look this bad. As someone who decorates cakes, this is NOT worth $80 for a cake.
@@KatsukiBakugooo tbh i think it cant get any worse, even if you throw your freshly made cake against a mossy brick wall it still looks better than this "cake"
I'm very aware I can't achieve even what Kylie has decorating wise. That said? I'm not trying to sell them. And that Wednesday cake comparison just gave Nailed It vibes
Then thing is, I think you could. Her skills look like a non-baker, like some mom decided to make her kid's themed cake herself rather than pay a baker.
@@scooter21 it looks like she barely tries you know? Because I used to make shitty cakes (but I didn’t go around selling them for 80 dollars lol) and after many tries my cakes are good now! She says she teaches cooking/baking and has been doing it for years yet her cakes are shittier than when I started making cakes?
I watched this video in April of 2024, 11 months after it was posted. They were only at 100k then, and now theyre at 1.62 million! I love your content :D
As the daughter of a baker, i'm flabbergasted. The price is too much, the presentation of the cake is SUPERRRRR important cuz the talent and skill is what gives the price (well from what i know), that's at least a 15 dollar cake. This lady makes small business cake bakers look like a joke! :[
I love that she cornered the "rich people who think $$$ is fancy and/or have so much money they don't care" market I mean you gotta get ballsy to eat the rich
As a regular person who likes baking for my family, her cakes look awful and are expensive, my cakes are pretty cheap taste good look good and are made with love
This is why I erased all dreams of wanting to own my own bake shop. You really have to have the technical skills and creativity to effectively create unique and beautiful pastries; just because you love something doesn’t mean you should do it as your profession.
The thing is that if you want your dreams to come true, you gotta actually try and improve your craft. Which anyone can do. Shes just really fucking stubborn about it and cares more about making a lot of money instead of making something she can both be proud of and that the clients can enjoy. Dreams can always come true with a lot of time and effort. Always.
I think you can have a successful business by providing good quality classics, not just unique products, at least in small towns. I live in a small town and my family goes to one bakery for all cakes, and almost all the town also frequents that bakery because they’re good and we trust the quality of their products. They don’t have interesting cakes but they make the best ones and most people are happy with it. I don’t know if this would work everywhere but in a small town it works. So yeah you need the technique but not the crazy gimmicks I think.
I have no bakery education, but I love baking. I take pride in my work. This is not just an insult to professionals, it's an insult everyone. Thanks for covering this story
FR, I do some home baking because its something I enjoy, I’ve been doing it for almost 20yrs at this point but I’ve never sold anything and I never would outside from maybe a fundraiser bake sale - but that’s the worst frosting job I’ve ever seen, never even mind what the heck she did with those sprinkles!
Congrats on 200k!!! I am a professional cake artist and, while my cakes are too expensive for the average consumer, I have a niche clientele base and my work quality reflects in the price. I am convinced that this woman was told one too many times by her gram gram or ladies at church that her cakes were just so beautiful and "you should really be making money doing this 😉" but like... They were just being nice and not very genuine but she took it to heart 😭
I think, she can charge what she wants. But this issue is that her social media on Facebook uses images of cakes that aren’t hers. False advertising what she can do, making people think the price point makes sense. If she posted her real cakes more often, then people would be Abel to make the decision to think “nah, not worth it for me, I’ll go else where”.
I think you’re right about that. If you watch the video on UA-cam of the day she opened her bakery, and she said she never thought about owning a cake business before but the opportunity opened up and she thought, why not? I live right down the road from Kylie’s Kakes, although I’ve never been there and never heard anyone talk about it. I hadn’t even heard of it until her TikTok video went viral. I’ve been wondering how tf did she get the opportunity to open up a bakery?? It baffles me.
@@abbiesadler4324 Yeah no, for sure. Posting other people's work means her customers don't get to make an informed decision. I don't use others' images and I don't copy work either. I make this very clear to my clients that their cakes will take inspiration from any references they give me but it will be bespoke and just for them. Kylie's customers are getting cakefished 😂😭
@@otyliagoszczynska7377 I replied to you days ago but it ooks like my reply got blocked or something maybe. Probably because I tried to share my socials 😭
the fact she called out someone publicly acting the victim when it turned out she delivered a shity busted product and ya her being awful after was the real nail in the coffin
Cakegate just proves that if you think you're too underqualified to do something, there is always someone out there is even more unqualified than you are with double the confidence.
So true ❤
My friend fancies herself a seamstress. Cannot make a pair of child's trousers to save her life. Still took 40 euros for making them...got upset when suggested she should enroll to a school or class to learn more because she is self-taught.
😆😆 when you're right you're right
You just described most guys I’ve worked with
😅
Yup, there’s a term for that: Dunning Kruger
this is the type of drama I adore. Like, there's no one committing any felonies, children aren't involved, it's just a crazy lady who makes shitty cakes
I agree like at least there’s no child exploitation
It's all fun in games until people are actually hurt. But yeah this is just petty fun :)
no one is physically harmed, but every cake made is 1 mind gone to insanity
YES.
FR
I don’t think anyone is mad for the store bought box mix, it’s that she CLAIMED she was making them from scratch.
also the fact that she’s selling the cakes with horrendous designs for $50-$80 when the cake themselves aren’t even made entirely by her
yeah! a lot of bakery’s who’s main focus is decoration use them and i love to use them in baking, but it’s INSANE to claim that it’s from scratch. idk if i’m just used to baking but i can tell somehow haha
@@shanepacheco6878yep, it's completely okay to use store bought, it's just don't lie about it?
Exactly! They were angry at the LIE not the fact it was a box mix, I can bet most people are FINE with box mix. As long as they are told the truth and priced FAIRLY
I completely agree. If you want to use box mix for you cake, whatever, box mix cake isn’t bad. But if you go and say, “oh yeah, this cake is made from scratch” while you’ve got a tub full of boxes of Betty Crocker™ Strawberry Cake mix, then you need to accept the criticism you’re getting. Especially if your cakes somehow manage to make the ones made on Nailed It! look like professional masterpieces and then you decide to sell them for up to $80.
One day late but happy expiration date to that cake mix
My favorite part was when the original customer remade the cake she ordered and it turned out like 1000% better than the one she paid for. Like isn't the whole point of buying a cake instead of making it yourself supposed to be that a professional can do a better job than you can and that's why it's more expensive than just baking?
I'm so sorry to bug you but could you please timestamp where that is? I've kept going thru the video and i keep missing that part
@@SJB0919 I'm pretty sure they didn't mention it in the video.
@Irish Transport Enthusiast Omg thanks 4 the help, guess I saw it in another video!
@@SJB0919 what video, may I ask?
100% I’m having them make it because I can’t.
The worst thing about the Cakegate lady was not her cakes, but her HORRIBLE customer service! She not only didn't offer to make it right for her customer, but she took to social media to try to shame her customer for not liking her work. That level of hubris deserves all the trolling she's getting.
And add on top of that the audacity it takes to shame a client on social media when you're selling cakes made with BETTY CROCKER CAKE MIX for $80 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's also kind of her cakes...😂
@@beachwitch89 The absolute most it should cost is $17.31 (really it's $12.31 but I added five dollars for margin of error and/or cost of labor)
A lot of her customers have said that she’s been really rude as well
right like this woman was SO convinced her cake was impeccable that she decided to put her customer on blast for thinking it looked ugly??
She is walking proof that no matter how bad you think you are at something, there is someone else out there doing it worse and more confidently
This helps with my crippling anxiety so much XD
LMAOOO
I am that someone
She got the passion but not the skill
And she’d have the skill if she stopped getting defensive and take the advice from actual good bakers!
I know!!! That’s what I was thinkin. I’m a new cake decorator (only been doing it 1.5 years) and I think I’m not very good sometimes but this made me feel better😂
“It expires on July 14 2024. But that’s so far away!”
THATS TODAY.
I've been repeating that line ad nausem for hours. It's so damned funny.
I also watched it July 14th 2024, I just only saw this comment now 😂
the video was made a year ago
She means the cake@@adambarclay2393
And 14 July is my birthday 😂
“If your eyebrows can’t even decide what time zone they’re in” she wasn’t roasted, she was overbaked
DAMN
Lady got fuckin' BROILED like Film Cooper's burnt cinnamon rolls!
GOD DAMN
GYATT DAMN
And her cakes are underbaked.
Cakegate is so fun to watch, Im not usually one for bullying but 80 bucks for a terribly ugly cake…. it’s needed this time, i feel.
I don't even give a shit about the price, handling food with your bare hands before a sale is wild imo
The price wouldn’t bother me if it reflected the product. Like if it was well done, that’s fine for a price. It’s 6 cakes in one
BUT did you see that cake??? It’s a mess. I’m also not one to pick on others unnecessarily. That cake for that price wasn’t ok
@Tea laBlu oh yeah, point was Moreso that if it's ugly it's not a super big deal but if I'm touching your icky gross goblin baker hands indirectly I'm way more mad
For 80 bucks that shit better give me head too though, wild ass price
And the fact she tried to blast the customer!!!!
@@crispy7499 apparently it’s not super uncommon when handling food BEFORE it’s cooked because it’s kills the germs (that’s just what i’ve heard) but DEFINITELY no bare hands on ingredients that don’t get cooked, like the sprinkles.
As a small baker, I would NEVER publicly shame a customer, even if they are in the wrong. It’s just unprofessional and causes unwanted attention. I only want good vibes. I will now be publicly apologizing to any unhappy customer. This is why I don’t decorate cakes. I do Bundts and loafs. Decorating is something I’m still working on and I just don’t want to do it lol
That is because u have some semblance of your abilities and aren’t stingy as H e double hockey sticks:)
@@mustangnawt1 😄 yeah. Masterclass and Skillshare are actually not bad sites. I always found it dumb until I started looking into culinary schools. Yeah I’ll learn in my kitchen lol
Edit: I think they are good if you plan to work for self or homeskill learning. Not to find a job. There’s a lot more to be learned lol
Well and plenty of baking creators talk about customers being rude, but like....they have quality products. It feels off when her products aren't even that high quality
It's been a trend on TikTok for a while. Lots of small business owners do it in an attempt to go viral and get sympathy orders. Most of the stories are obviously fake too.
@@thekaren1111 Sadly I too also agree with that. I didn’t like the video or watch it all the way through lol. I don’t like bashing of any kind. Video popped up and I got curious as a baker.
The worst part about the Wednesday cake is that she not only stole the idea, she claimed the white part was her idea, and I'm dumbfounded at how stupid that was a claim
"I'm not sure who designed it but shout out to them." Has the same energy as people who pick art off of Pinterest and credit Pinterest or say "credit to the artist"
“credit to the artist” triggered my fight or flight oh my goddd
“credit to the artist”
mf who
As an artist, praying i stay with my fame in the negative 😭😭 dont make me be “the artist”
Is it bad that I want to start putting "credit to the artist(me)" on anything I post that's my art
@@RosieSkys do it.
I am in a baking class, we had never heard of this until a classmate pulled it up. My Chef, who had a legit cake business before, was absolutely baffled someone would charge that much for this cake. Like there isn’t even a final layer! She threw sprinkles on the CRUMB COAT.
YES! That's what got me!
I Thought it was Satire! 😂
i've only baked like 4 cakes in my life and that's what fucking annoyed me too
WHAT IS A CRUMB COAT
@@em_kit the frosting that she put on is a crumb coat I thing you need to chill the cake after crumb coat and then you actually ice it
The cross contamination she does is really what pisses me off, I took a year long pastry course. Health and Safety was pounded into us because you could seriously cause someone a major allergic reaction and end up in a lawsuit
Wait, can u explain that bit? What cross contamination?
@@fandomchatfabi75It means you mix the previous material or bacteria,virus erc with the other materials you use afterwards. For example you put nuts on a cake and started to make another cake without washing your hands or cleaning the enviroment which still contains nuts. Therefore the other cake contaminated with nuts that can cause allergic reaction despite it shouldnt have nuts in it
If there's one thing I hate it's cross contamination 😩 it's my biggest ICK.
As someone who LOVES smoothies but is very allergic to cantaloupe, its always scary when i order a fruit smoothie anywhere because I'm afraid of cross contamination. like I'm very allergic, even cut open cantaloupe on the same cutting board of other fruit will leave me bed ridden if i eat that fruit.
This is Cert I Hospitality stuff here in Australia. Every time you do something, you wash your hands.
It was also explained in Hospitality that gloves were only to be used if you needed to cover cuts or similar, as the use of gloves has a tendency to result in people being lazy with washing their hands.
17:48 congrats, now here’s 1.9 million more!
2.22 now :)
@@cherrystitcheseatslime yippee
2.23 mil ô days later... That's crazy!
2.23🎉🎉
As of Nov. 14, 2024: 2.26 million
For anyone how doesn't know the mysterious brown stuff on the side of the cake tin is slightly burnt cake mix which means that she didn't wash the cake tin before making the cake
That's gotta be a health violation
It probably is
@@jasonellsworth3256 It definitely is. Federal regulations require that bakeries/pastry shops/etc. should properly wash and sanitize their cake pans - as well as other baking utensils - after every use. Failure to do so can run the risk of exposing your customers to food-borne illnesses or allergens.
And even if it's baked-in grit that can't be washed off, it's just better to get a new pan and throw that one out. Pans like that are relatively inexpensive to replace.
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i thought it was chocolate, wow
every cake that she tried to recreate feels like she should be on "Nailed it" 💀
for real tho-
Now I wanna watch some more Nailed It episodes
She's too mean to go on that show
@@IrenDoesAnimationsHELP WHY DID I CACKLE 😭
@@IrenDoesAnimations STOPPP MY MOM ALWAYS JOKES ABOUT THAT
Pricing an 8-inch cake for $75.99 is absolutely ridiculous and a rip off. I’ve been working at a small, family owned bakery for two years now and our most expensive cake that feeds 40 people is 80 dollars. Not to mention that our cakes are beautifully decorated and have been a sensation for over 80 years. I’m literally so horrified that someone could get away with selling that crap pile of a cake for ALMOST 80 DOLLARS….it has nothing to do with her being a small business and everything to do with her lack of skill level.
$80 for an 8 inch custom cake is pretty reasonable where I'm from. But the thing is they are gorgeous and delicious.
same here! I work at a very small bakery and from us a cake an 8 inch cake is between 30-40 dollars. Ours look much better than that as well and aren't made with standard box mix. 10 dollars per single inch of cake from a local bakery is absurd
I'm a kid and cooked my own cake, looked way better
$80 is reasonable for a custom cake if it's done by someone who knows what they're doing and puts emphasis on making it look perfect.
The fraudulent images are easily worth $80-$100 (hers not so much)
I just bought an 8 inch Bundt cake from a bake shop for a birthday for someone and it was $49.20 please tell me I didn’t get ripped off😭the place is really good though so the quality isn’t an issue but I wanna know if that’s considered too much
yes i'm late, but as a baker's child, the first video made my jaw DROOOOPP..the cake is slanted, the sprinkles being dumped, the extras probably being reused even if they have frosting on them, no gloves for anything, THE CAKE BEING SLANTED, the frosting (possibly buttercream) between the cakes being uneven..need i say more..
a lot of cake decorators use premade cake mix with some things added to make it different/better but she STANDS by being COMPLETELY HOME MADE
homemade=premade cake mix from scratch=ya know, from scratch. she’s technically being truthful
Speaking of the cake mix thing replace the water with milk and add another egg trust me
@@gummysnacksandknives9229 butter instead of oil too ❤
People who specialize in decoration absolutely can and often do use box mix, usually with a few tweaks to the additive ingredients to make it a bit more yummy. In that case, the customer is paying for the frosted art! Kylie’s, though… that’s not worth anywhere near that much. And she insists it’s homemade…..:
This ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
the fact you're not even a baker yourself and it somehow looks better than her rainbow cake is insane to me
Cap
@@ethanthomas4286 it does look better then kylies rainbow cake in my opinion, idk if its the same to you
I don’t see the difference but okay
it looks the same to me
There’s no bad handwriting on it
As a young baker, I think this is absolutely hilarious 😂. This woman is out here butchering cakes that weren't even made from scratch and being rude as hell to any criticism. This shit is fantastic 😂
It is very very enjoyable to watch go down lol
@@ChaoticWatcher that's what I'm saying 😂
I'm literally 16 and I only bake to bring something for family events because I can't cook for shit, but I'm absolutely convinced I could do a better job than this holy shit. They're so lazily done I don't get why she cares so much about them when she clearly didn't put much effort in 💀
@Spider you are absolutely right. I made a trunchbull cake from the movie matilda from scratch, and it looked at least 3 times better than her cakes. And I'm only 13
@@Spidertheidiot dude I my 9yr brother could probably do better then what she did, and he would probably be so happy that someone likes his cake he wouldn't charge TvT
Her cakes look awful!
Its so cute how genuinely grateful they look about 100k subscribers and now they have legit 2 million
"I wouldn't talk about other people's appearance If your eyebrows can't agree on what timezone they're in" I am in shambles- this is now added into my offense book
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@@crispicheese HELLO 👁️👄👁️
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As someone who bakes for a living, this has been so fascinating to me. I constantly feel as if I overcharge for my cakes, no matter the time and energy I put into them, but I do charge upwards to 80 dollars depending on how big or elaborate it is. 80+ for a simple sprinkle cake with a glob of icing and sloppy "happy birthday" is outrageous.
Also, the mystery brown and the red on the pans are most likely baked on cake batter... from a completely different cake.
I-
......... Ew wtf really?! 🤢🤮
If I was the customer I can sue her right? No I did not buy cake from her I'm just curious
@@djahazman3313 most likely yes. It’s breach of contract and false advertisement.
@@jalifritz8033 not only that I think it might be a health violation
@@jalifritz8033 It's also a health hazard, where I live people can call the police for this and the place would shut down in the blink of an eye.
as a cake decorator who works at a grocery store i sometimes worry over how my cakes look but at least i know they are exponentially better than this woman’s expensive ass cakes lol
@@J23805 the sprinkle cake from the vid desperately needs a cake doctor 🤣🫣
@@J23805 true 🤣 at this point the most humane thing to do is to let the patient go…
i love cool job names and now i want to be a ✨cake decorator✨, thank you 💅
And you know most people arent paying more than 30$ so there is that haha
which grocery store? guarantee you they're shit
0:46 “WAS THAT THE BITE OF ‘87??!”
baker here! i just wanna add that it’s totally normal to not use gloves when baking cakes & decorating them. we wash our hands 24/7 and wearing gloves can make it harder to decorate
this girl here has been exposed for also using dirty bowls , so while i agree with you, this girl here im betting isn’t washing her hands as much as she should..
Seems like most bacteria would be killed at oven temperatures anyway.
@Discordia5 just want to say but this is a dangerous sentiment to have when it comes to baking/cooking. Some bacteria need an insanely high temperature to kill them. Bacteria spores can be as much as 10^5-fold resistant to heat than their regular counterparts.
@@Discordia5 she was touching it raw after it came outta the oven
@@Discordia5 We're talking about decorating and adding cream tho... those stages see no heat at all babes
I just made a birthday cake for my sister and I’m not really good at decorating cakes, this made me feel SO MUCH BETTER about the cake I made 💀💀💀
im sure it was great!
If one of my siblings made a cake for me, I would be so touched that I wouldn't even care that it didn't look perfect. I'm sure your sister felt the same :)
I _wish_ I could bake cakes for my family
At least yours wasn’t an ugly overpriced BS cake, it was made with love and that’s all that matters 🥰🥰
If I made my sister a cake she would ask who took a dump on the table 💀
I love your pfp🤯🆗
Baking tip: if you use milk in box mix it comes out much better. Also adding some extra vanilla to a vanilla mix, or a pinch of coffee to a chocolate mix it makes them even better ^-^
Would milk be a substitute for the water? Or do you just add the milk with everything else?
@@KN1GHT_ I think they meant the milk would be the substitute as opposed to using it in combination with water. Otherwise, it'd end up too watery and not cook right. I know I'm not the og commenter but hopefully that's helpful :) I've baked a few cakes before (mostly with box mix) so I think milk + water would overpower the powder
@@KN1GHT_ milk is the substitute for the water! The fat from the milk adds more richness and body to the cake mix. An extra egg gives more stabilisation, rise, and helps it hold together long term. Butter instead of oil gives a different mouth feel and a minor alteration in the flavour profile
Adding a spoonful of pudding mix or custard powder also adds body and richness, and custard especially is amazing for sponge cakes to make them fluffier
Wait, yall add water to boxed cake mixes? On the box it always says eggs, butter and milk, but no water
@@KyleCanSuckMyBalls really? The ones I usually get always have water
That cake mix is going to expire tomorrow 🤣
I used to know a professional baker, and her cakes were GORGEOUS. She charged only a little bit more than this lady for masterpieces, and she made the cake recipes, syrups and frostings herself… this is kinda crazy lmao
I'd love to know what her hourly rate came out to after costs. Like how much money per hour she made to make these cakes.
@@lauralaforge558things like this tend to be passion projects- more than likely, they’re not making much, but they’re doing what makes them happy, which you gotta respect on some level
Someone definitely told her to create a cake business after she gave them some and she took it seriously, and everyone just enabled her and said Yes so she can’t fathom that she’s not good at it. At. All.
God: I'm going to give all the confidence to the most incompetent morons.
Humans: Yeah, great. Thanks.
It's not that she's not good, it's that she definitely is lacking the experience of cooking school/of the kitchen. I believe she would be perfectly fine as a home cook, but not as a pro/as a cooking business owner.
@@chrisheartman9263 i mean even if the price was 20 dollars instead of 80 the way she man handled the cake gives me the ick
@@chrisheartman9263 you just said the same thing in a round a bout way
@@ChristopherLong-z4u omg fr same
Just to point out, many cake decorators use box mix that they then improve a bit with different liquid ingredients, as cakes really are edible chemistry, cake mix is gonna make a consistently good cake every time. You’re paying for their time and expertise in decorating, and many of them do have really amazing decorating skills. So the cake mix thing isn’t really that big a deal, it’s the charging so much for such subpar decorating and customer service
the cake mix thing isn't a big deal yes. but lying about using cake mix is a really big deal!
i also haven't seen anyone else mention this but professional bakers do scoop sprinkles onto cakes with their hands. ive also seen alot of bakers roll sprinkles onto the cake (the cake is frozen so that it doesn't fall apart). it's just that when she does it it looks like shit cause she doesn't know anything about decoration.
@@biggestastiest i've seen professional bakers scoop sprinkles too, but like the way that they do and she does it is very different. for one, they don't dump the sprinkles all on top of the cake and just spear it around the cake like that.
@@biggestastiest To put sprinkles on a cake you would actually press them into the frosting a bit by taking a cupped handful of them and pushing them into it to create an even coating, dumping them on like that then haphazardly pushing them round the cake would make it look... Well like her cake. Plus with the added writing on top there shouldn't have been sprinkles dumped on top in the first place so that smear of icing wouldn't have been necessary to write on the cake. That's why most cakes covered into sprinkles either aren't written on, or have a rim of sprinkles on top with a blank space in the center.
This is true cake mix can make great cakes with good quality liquid ingredients
As a British person, those gbbo impressions were amazing
Using that much Fondant on a cupcake should be illegal. Someone arrest her.
Don't give those cupcakes to the young or elderly. Someone's going to be choking to death on that fondant!
I personally do like the taste of fondant, but that much fondant can really give you a stomachache
@@lilliepad_froh I've just made it SOOO many times, and even just making it kinda makes me feel nauseous sometimes bc its just sugar mixed with marshmallows (more sugar) so I mean, yea its good bc sugar is good but that much of it kinda kills any flavors you were hoping for when you made that cupcake. Plus, it's just lazy to put a huge circle of fondant atop a cupcake like that...
@@erincogan1 You cant Even See the cupcake. Heck, you can probably put her rainbow cake on top of it.
@@lilliepad_froh blaaaahaahaha, you really could!! They looked like little tables that were probably the perfect size for that small $70 pile of sprinkles with a side of cake, lol
My issue with her cakes is not even that they’re bad but that she just does them so LAZILY. If she took the time to draw a good circle, a straight line, fix mistakes it would look so much better… ahhh
This is so true!!! the sheer laziness!!! uGH and then the inedible flowers on an edible cake. Jail.
That Wednesday cake looked ROUGH... Walmart cakes can do better than that
@@keiishine she just slapped icing on like… draw a nice line down the middle first!!!
She doesn't even clean her pans and doesn't use gloves
i saw an an encanto cake on her page and oh mai gawd that cake was ugly
2:27 I got a cake around the same price from a woman who was only baking as a hobby. 3 layer cake with perfect texture and amazing icing that was decorated so well and beautifully. It took me days to get through the whole thing, it was worth the cost and I buy from her for most cake events.
But if she gave me this for what I paid- I would’ve sobbed
What was the cost of the good cake? I really want to get them pleaseee
there's a lady who bakes beautiful cakes down the st from my folks, made a cake for my sister's wedding, we gave her $60 and it looked like it was straight out of a storybook
@EL_12345 They said it was the same price as the cake in the TikTok, so around 80$
But did it save your parents marriage
@@basementdwellercosplayprobably lol
The best part of the video is your chaotic baking process at the end 😆
I would totally pay eighty dollars for that original Wednesday cake design, it looked SPECTACULAR, like one of those creations almost too beautiful to be destroyed.
Me too! That Joe guy is crazy talented because that Wednesday cake is so beautiful that even if he charged more than $80 for it, I still wouldn't mind paying
the original!!!!!
omg fr same
I would actually pay using my soul and my entire life savings just to get the original Wednesday cake
I would pay more then that for it-
"our signature rainbow cake" she keeps acting like it's so special and iconic when it's no different than those rainbow cakes you would find at a grocery store she literally named the same icing they used for the grocery ones at Costco and number of layers exactly like a store bought cake 😭😭
Even the ones at Costco look better😂😂
you can find other rainbow cakes for at least $12 at walmart💀
In my country for 75 dollars you can buy a wedding cake and some sweets and snacks, 75 dollars is like 300 bucks in my country
I’m a home baker (just making stuff for my family and friends) and it’s baffling to me that she sells cakes like that without feeling genuinely guilty. How can you take someone’s money for something you just sloppily put together??
Plain evil
Same! I'm at a much better level than this baker, and I would never ever dream of charging that much.
i like how this is from a year ago celebrating 100k and now youre at 2M! crazy
honestly using boxed mix isn't a mortal baking sin. They're a solid base that turns out consistent results, and if the decorating is more your strength they can let you focus on that.
Here's an easy way to make a boxed cake mix better: add 1 small box instant pudding in a matching flavour, 1 extra egg and an extra 1/4 cup oil (and consider swapping half the oil with melted butter). Sub out the water with milk or (even better) buttermilk It will be extra moist and flavourful, with a really nice crumb texture. Not too heavy, not too delicate.
ty i should try this!!!
I think they pointed it out because she claims they are made of fresh ingredients.
Thank you so much for this, I've wanted to start my own baking and decorating business once I got good at decorating and was really nervous about that 😭
I've done this before and it's sooo much better. A professional shouldn't be using boxed tho xD
It isn’t a bad thing to use boxed mix, but she claimed that it was made from scratch and for a cake made from boxed mix it should NOT be 75$ even if she was a good decorator 😭
Usually when bakeries make sprinkle cakes, they ice the cake and put it in the freezer to set up and make them more stable then they role the cake into the sprinkles. It gives better coverage and it looks better than just throwing them on.
That's also what I heard
Decorate most cakes you have to chill the icing before you can even start doing anything because if you just decorate the icing while it's hot there's a chance of everything that you doing literally just falling off of the cake😂
Literally how it's done you put it into the fridge though and let it firm up because freezing makes thr frosting too firm and the sprinkles start to run colour
Super late but that genuinely looks like something I’d make for a highschool assignment while having a total mental breakdown from the pressure and escalating disaster like I can picture myself sobbing while I smeared frosting all over the cake stand thing along with the uneven cake. So props to her for not doing that and actually being extremely confident in her cakes ig
😂😂😂🤣🤣 can so relate
Bruh what the heeeellllll😂
Did you have a culinary class?
100k when you posted, 2.24 million when I watched. Congrats!
Someone who knows a lot about baking here:
Cake mix can be used in bakeries, but they aren't expensive Like That unless it's an incredibly complex cake (the rainbow cake is not with the way she made it.)
Most cakes have a thin layer of frosting called the crumb layer, it catches crumbs and makes them less likely to cause distortions in the final design.
Fomdant isnt very tasty for most, so when its used it's typically a thin layer or is used more like a cake topper, something that gets removed before consumption.
That frosting also seemed a bit dry, but it could've been the lighting.
So THATS why it's called a crumb layer! The more you know
I aint reading all that
@@Jujutsu_kaisen_ayyy Even if this comment is in audio form, I don't think you'll hear it anyway, in fact maybe skip it. So yeah just shimmy shimmy yay yo S outta here
@@Killer_kaze Nah whats up w people taking stuff so seriously istg your probably a facebook mum or sm
@@Killer_kaze ALSO HOW DID U EDIT YOUR COMMENT AND STILL MISS SPELL LIKE 3 THINGS ABABHAHAHAHAH
dude... the original 'Wednesday' cake is so frickin gorgeous. i can't stop looking at it, the amount of detail is INSANE. if i got a cake like that i wouldn't even be able to eat it lol it's too beautiful, it deserves to be in a museum.
That was a cake worth $80
@@toast6375was definitely worth the money
@@anayafrancois5826 mayoi.
@@anayafrancois5826 MAYOI AYASE.
FR IT WAS GORGEOUS
That Encanto ruined door frame cake is such a powerful message to the 6-year old child, really setting the mood for the future to come, in both idea and presentation. Complete with the actual literal stretched out character jpeg.
If I saw that cake- i would fix it myself.
I honestly cant tell if this is sarcasm-
@@silverdandelions1908 what I said? Oh by fixing it, I meant take all the damn frosting off and just make cake pops from the remains 😭
@@ThatOneChorusKid I was talking about the op sorry
@@silverdandelions1908 it’s okay lol
15:46 ✨Classic blue.✨
How sad is it that she willingly charges $50-$80 for her cakes when you can buy a store bought cake for $30 and the quality is 5x better. The sprinkle cake looks like she purposely butchered it and I understand why that customer was pissed when they got it lmao.. they literally could have gone to Walmart or Target for a higher quality cake.
You know a lot of businesses use cake box mix it’s not bad if someone uses it
@@gachapango2234 I wasn't talking about the cake mix, more of the presentation because it seems like that's where the majority of her complaints lie. I personally don't mind store bought cake mix, as I'm sure most stores use it for their cakes. ( And I've had several birthdays with Walmart cakes hahah. They're always really good!)
Most people pay for the presentation of the cake. It's just insane how this girl presented the sprinkle cake to the customer without seeing it looked like complete garbage. Probably tasted fine, but it looked awful.
@@gachapango2234 one of her customers could use the same ingredients and make the cake look better (and for cheaper)
But that’s exactly what’s not the point. A small business can not charge so little. They need to charge more than a big company. But I do agree that if you charge 50-80 dollars it has to look good.
@@Maddie-nw2ii Yh I can totally agree with that the presentation was not it but bc it was indeed 6 layers 8” I said the most it should’ve been Is $45 but then again I’m from the uk so I mean £40-45
little tip from an at home baker: cake pans that DONT slide into eachother would make the cakes be prefectly straight (like you cant shove the same size pan in the other, it just would sorta sit on it) and to make store bought icing fuller, melt it a bit in the microwave and slap it in a stand mixer or a bowl with a hand mixer, just incorperate air into it and itll puff up a lil bit! If you dont have store icing, 4 sticks of room temp butter, mixed until sooth and 4-5 cups of powdered sugar, a teaspoon of vanilla extract (or any extract) and a pinch of salt, slowly add the powdered sugar because it will make a mess! mix on medium for about 8-13 minutes or until its fukky mixed, making sure to turn the icing over so nothing is stuck to the sides of the bowl or the bottom. It makes enough for the filling and a solid crumb coat! Happy baking!
**fully* mixed, better fix that before some toilet-brain makes a joke about it 💀💀
@@not-so-obvious_autism777LMAO
@@not-so-obvious_autism777 I stg that fukky sent me 😂😂😂😂😂
@@rileythesmiliest 😂😅
At that point you might as well make your own frosting. It takes practically no time.
It's insane how unprofessional Kylie is. Publicly shaming a customer is wild
Fr, it’s not a -Karen- entitled person thing to be mad that a cake you paid over 70$ for ended up looking like something you could cop for 5$ or even bake _yourself_ for free. _ANYONE_ would be mad about that. Kylie best be glad that lady wasn’t an actual entitled person because this would be one of the rare occasions where a real entitled person would be _justifiably_ mad. And they would’ve probably gone way farther too… unlike that nice lady who let that gigantic let-down slide not wanting to damage Kylie’s business and got slandered on the internet for it.
slay to that lucifer pfp
i havent watched the full vid yet but i think using boxed cake mix is perfectly fine, its just not all good when you pay 70 dollars for it
Seriously. I had a photographer actually tell his other clients to come after me, gave them my phone number because I criticized his work. I had a blog at the time, and in the blog I said I wasn't a fan of his work, but I didn't actually say his name or the name of his business. Suddenly my phone blows up with women threatening me. That photographer is no longer a photographer.
it's insane how unhinged people can be. publicly shaming someone trying to make a living.
This is the first video I found for your channel(4 months ago) and I watch it every time I want a laugh. So I’ve watched this exactly 24 times.
I personally hate the majority of sprinkles(excluding really small, fine sprinkles) they’re just so hard and chalky so this cake is my nightmare
Same I liked the diamond looking ones but the small ones are gross just messes up the frosting when I eat it
than down watch this, kid
@@SuperDuperWhooperCreative Then* don't*
@@mochi_moonWEE WOO WEE WOO, GRAMMAR POLICE!
@@TeletubbieMother listen I agree for the most part but c'mon u gotta at least get one of the words right and not use other words 😭
I feel like this woman would get along with the Pink sauce lady so well
a match made in hell
's kitchen
And that one crazy blindfold tattoo lady-
Fr @@GlowingAmberRaiinYTT
@@theunderstatement6842💀
They are probably sisters
My mom was a pastry chef and spent most of her time in French style bakeries, but also did cakes. I'm her daughter, and have baked with her and tried to learn countless times growing up, but I lack her patience and artistic ability.
That cake looks like one of my first attempts on my own as a 13 year old teenager trying to make a birthday cake for someone. It also looks a little melty and crooked. It helps to chill your cake before spreading frosting, and making the frosting fresh so it spreads easily... That's about all I remember.
Omg this is such an accurate explanation lol😂
Yeah it’s kinda in the name - frosting. It’s usually butter or oil based so if you put it on a freshly baked item it’s going to melt and separate.
I don’t even freaking bake.
I saw better cakes on a cakewalk at school in 3rd grade!
It's not even standing upright oml
4:12 best swear censor sound effect
Thank you for filtering the muddy sewage water of Tiktok down to us to sweet sweet clean water we can consume
Hm
Funkyfrogbait: human water treatment plant
If your water tastes sweet you probably have lead poisoning
Fr I just use them to watch tiktok without the toxicity.😂
Media consumption is my favorite hobby
I knew a girl that sold cakes in college, her only experience baking was cooking class in highschool. She just liked baking and decorating cakes. She made amazing cakes! She make it from scratch with that good homemade icing I used to help her with her cakes between stuffy sessions. I only knew how to mix ingredients like she told me. This "local business woman" wishes she could make what us, barely out of highschool teens, were making. Seriously tho, that rainbow cake looks like something I could make.
One is made with love, the other is made with….hmm
Sometimes I recognize that it’s my delusional adhd-fueled optimism that makes me believe that I can do anything as long as I try…However, in this case I’m CERTAIN that I could decorate a better cake than hers. Hell, I’m confident I could remake every cake she’s posted and do it better.
Amen & agreed.
I wouldn't let anything resembling what she's made leave my doorstep without fixing it.
as a former baker yes, most people with a level of artistic ability and a little patience can do better than she has. and you can do it without using cake mix! a good recipe really makes a cake
I would watch a series of that
I definitely can make better cupcakes
Absolutely same, I'm a complete novice to baking but good lord at least I try, I don't know how one count make a cake this ugly and then have the nerve to overprice it
As someone who just discovered your videos and already really connecting to you and your humor and articulation and all, it makes me so happy to see the end of this video you celebrate 100k subscribers, seeing where you are now. In just a year!!! I immediately showed my sister your work as exactly who I wanna hear from for these topics, so it makes sense. Just so exciting to see this still happen to creators who deserve it
The cake mix thing isn’t a big deal. A lot of bakers use pre-mixed cake mix because all it is is flour, sugar, leveling and flavouring. However, most bakers who use cake mix don’t actually follow the directions. They add butter instead of oil, milk instead of water and add more eggs than it asked for. And they don’t charge so much for these cakes.
But every other thing she did is inexcusable.
see I could never be those bakers because I'm terrified of changing a recipe. I swapped olive oil for vegetable oil once and hated the outcome so much that I've decided I will never do that. However I have changed the way I bake it. My dad puts a cup of water in the oven so that whatever he's baking is more moist, giving it a sponge cake texture and making it melt in your mouth.
+ when they make bomb designs on the cake why the f would i mind one bit about a certain price even if its made with cake mix!
Exactly right. I am a skilled home baker and I DO NOT use cake mixes, however, I’m not baking cakes to be elaborately decorated. The thing is, when you buy a cake for a wedding or other occasion, it’s really all about the decoration. Lots of these places use mixes, and yes they do beef them up so you don’t really notice. It’s a great shortcut that saves the bakery time and effort while achieving a reliable result. It’s really not a big deal. Everything else she did however seems to be a an affront to baked goods and customer service.
I think they are more mad about her lying about how she uses fresh ingredients
And that high price point is for the cake decorating, not the bake mix. Someone for their girlfriend paid $200 for this 8 inch thing ... but DAMN it was cute. That was my first introduction to pricey cakes. I'm good w/ store bought. But if I want something of the same caliber, I know how much to save up for.
Fun fact: many professional bakeries use boxed cake mixes and just alter them. Each one that i know of has their own secret way of altering the boxed cake mix. So on that point i dont really judge her. $80 is laughable tho
I think she just straight up used the box mix without altering it and claiming it was made from scratch. I mean, for $80 I would hope for a good quality cake that’s made from scratch
Huh. I have many questions now
It's more so that this Kylie lady very firmly stated that she made her cake mix from scratch. It's not the bought mix people are mad about, it's that she lied about it to make herself seem like a better baker.
Mix makes good cake, with, yes, a few tricks (I'm still winning hearts and minds with the one I learned from my mother's secretary) but don't lie when asked.
I'm an awful baker and not even I need boxed cake mix.
I just wanna say that using cake mix and charging that much is fine if the cakes actually looks good. A great example is Bake My Day Mimo who uses store bought cake mix BUT her cakes decorating skills are amazing and her cakes always look so professional whether it’s a simple cake or a really extravagant cake sculpture.
I thought of Mimi too, but you are right, her cakes actually look good
Totally legit! I think people are pissed about the cake mix part because apparently she’s been claiming to make the cakes from scratch/denying that she uses mixes. If she was honest I think people wouldn’t mind so much (some people would definitely gripe about the price but ya know). But I definitely agree that with a lot of decorated cakes you’re paying for a piece of art made by an artist as opposed to buying a cake that is just focused solely on tasting good. This lady’s problem is that she acted like her cakes were both artistic/beautiful AND delicious/homemade when really they were neither lmao
Doubt Bake My Day Mimo say's her cakes are made from scratch though
Yeah boxed cake mix is a huge lifesaver and you can easily find ways to improve it
The one cake with Encanto theme really reminded me of the cake Mimo made before. But Mimo's cake is way better and the details she put in her cakes are just amazing
I have been binging your channel all day and I haven’t genuinely laughed this hard in months. I really needed to find your videos. I cannot thank you enough for all your hard work ❤
As a cake decorator at a grocery store, but by no means an expert, a couple points:
* it's okay to use box cake mix as a cake maker/decorator, but you need to be transparent about it and make sure your customers know. It's also okay if you use the box cake mix as a base and then add or remove things to alter the recipe, but again, your customer should know (especially for potential allergies). Many large scale companies that sell decorated cakes actually source the cake part from a different company that provides pre-made, frozen cakes, and they taste just fine. But you can't lie to your customers about what you're using.
* there are better ways to apply sprinkles on a cake. Typically, you can hold the cake in one hand (by using a cake board), and then with another hand (with a glove), you can scoop and gently pat the sprinkles onto the side. Some people do this over a large tub of sprinkles, and others do it over a long tray. Sometimes, people even chill the cake for a few minutes to get the frosting firm, and then roll the cake directly in the sprinkles.
* she could have improved the appearance of the cake by piping a simple white border around the top or bottom. She could have used no sprinkles on the top to add contrast between the icing and sprinkles. She could have only done the bottom half of the sides in sprinkles. She could have forgone sprinkles altogether and simply using coloured icing to pipe a border. She could have put the sprinkles in the icing layers. She has many options.
* when cooks, bakers, or many people who handle food have an option between gloves and bare hands, it's usually easier to just use your bare hands (it's better for firmer grips, and gloves can get messy because people tend to not change their gloves as often as they should). As long as you thoroughly wash your hands after touching anything other than the cake, you're good to go. That said, when working with sprinkles and icing, I don't know why she didn't opt for gloves, because that would have been easier in that instance. Professionalism isn't really the concern here, it's the health, safety, and practicality aspects that matter.
* added onto the concern about lack of gloves from above, the weird red and brown stains/leakage are concerning. Cake batter being spilled is understandable, but cross-contamination between different foods is frowned upon and could even get you in hot water with the law if it triggers allergies. I also question how she washes her pans for cakes (hot water? Soap? Sanitizer? I know the food safety laws for Canada but I'm unsure about America).
* many people gripe over the prices of cakes from small business owners, but they aren't cheap from grocery stores, either. Off the top of my head, from my own grocery store, if you want an 8 inch round cake (two layers) that was decorated in-store, it's going to be around $19.99 (CAN). If you want an 8 inch (two layer) cake from another company that we sell in our counter, it's between $24.99 and $34.99 (CAN). If you want something below $15, you need to buy a smaller pre-made, generic cake off the shelf. Don't even get me started on the price of sheet cakes (which can be between $35.00 and $90.00 CAN). And those prices are considered cheap in the cake economy. If you're buying from a smaller business, the cost is going to be higher based on the ingredients they buy locally, the time spent on the cake, and the competition and how popular they are. It is not surprising to pay over $70 for a custom cake. HOWEVER, after seeing the quality of the cakes this girl is selling, I think she is over-pricing her skill. I have deep respect for what people believe their work is worth, but you can get a cake from the grocery store that will look the same for substantially cheaper.
* the lying and the drama ... I can't get over that part. I expect that from an influencer, but the smart business decision would be to apologize and refund the customer to make sure that your customer base remains happy with you. The cost of doing that now will be much cheaper than potentially losing tons of customers in the future. Plus, this damages the company image, and puts their trustworthiness at risk. The fact that she is purposefully antagonizing the public is not something I think she can afford - she's not a multi-million dollar company that can just fix their PR - and that's going to be the biggest business expense.
Ill start going to culinary school in hopes of becoming a pastry chef/baker. Thank you for giving me so much info on the topic.
I enjoyed reading the whole thing and I genuinely think it might help me when I start going to Culinary School.
@@fouhiroyu I'm glad you could learn something, and I'm excited that you're going to be going into the food industry! I really hope you enjoy yourself :)
@@bluefeye Thank you very much!
So I have some experience in a US dessert kitchen (in FL). We weren't in charge of making the desserts, but we plated them and put them on a buffet. Any and all food handling required gloves, and everything got washed in hot soapy water and a verified sanitizer at the end of the night or went through an industrial dishwasher that combines the wash and rinse cycles.
In no world would we have been allowed to handle sprinkles with bare hands, even if they were freshly washed. This was at a corporate level, so it's possible a small, local business would be under slightly less strict guidelines, but even so, those bowls would absolutely not fly. It looks like either two different mixes were put in the same bowl, one after the other, without wash/rinse/sanitizing in between, or the bowl somehow had cooked cake bits stuck to it while she was making a new batter. Either way, cross contamination city, and an absolute no no.
oh my god thank you kind person for making this comment you gave a lot of good points! i can say in my parts most of this is true based on my experience and what i have study and yes i agree with the statement that there some people tends to forget to change the gloves often as they should since like you said gloves that been used already in other sensitive/easily contaminated Food to another food or surface could cost a Cross contamination whenever its unintentional or not.
As an official person who bakes as a hobby, I can confirm, that cake looks like if rainbows and chalk had a baby and threw up on my cake
Pfft, lmbo I know what you said is supposed to be serious, but I can't stop smiling. It's a perfect description! But you make a good point though 👍
More like shit rather than threw up
“the chemicals enhance my homosexuality” is one of the best things i’ve ever heard
the baking section by itself was pure gold
real
14:51
She's actually pretty spot on, atrazine (a pesticide) is found in the drinking water in the US. It is a well known endocrine disruptor and did change the gender of frogs in studies. So who knows what it does to humans
God bless America
14:25 we love that little slu-
For my 12th birthday, my mom tried to make a cake themed after my OC. Most of the baking stuff was packed away (we were moving out of the city at the time) so we basically put a couple of layers of cake together, smushed two large containers of pink and blue cotton candy on it, and drew facial features on with black frosting in a makeshift piping bag.
And that cake, the cake that I still remember what it looked like, still looked much better than Kylie's.
Ur oc looks cute!
That's really sweet ❤
@@ItsyuhgurlRaeRae Thank you!
@@pip-pip5029 Yeah, it is.
It was probably better because it was made with love and y’all had fun
“An 8” cake serves 18 guests” IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD
the world of ants (and lies!)
This cake is seven layers…..
@@dezstarlight Challenge: accepted.
@@dezstarlightit's eight inches across
My thoughts exactly
Suddenly I feel much more confident in all my artistic skills if cakes like these are being sold for 70 entire bucks
July 14th 2024 came and went, I don't know why I remembered that part, maybe because it's my birthday lol
I remember reading a reddit post about a woman asking if she was an a-hole for using box cake mix for all the times she was paid to make cakes. That may sound like she would be, but 1) it wasn't a business. These were all for family, friends, and the odd acquaintance that heard about her cakes and 2) she never charged for the ingredients. She actually said she could never really make cakes from scratch. Try as she might, she would get maybe one good cake out of 10 tries if she made everything from scratch. What she was good at was decorating. She apparently spent hours perfecting her decorating skills using fondant and frosting to make really pretty cakes and only charged for the time she spent decorating. It led to pretty cakes that were fairly inexpensive for the detail she put in, so her customers were all very happy and satisfied. She was wondering if she was a bad person for not disclosing that she used boxed cake mix. I think in this situation, its completely fine tbh. As long as no one's charging me for ingredients and they give me a beautiful cake that is decorated to my specifications. This situation is bad tho. This woman is scamming people and Idek how considering one look at her cakes and cake prices should be enough to deter anyone from frequenting her business.
Yep I remember that post too as soon as I saw the title of this video, using cake mix is fine if 1 the craftsmanship is good and 2 if you are seeking it at a reasonable price, this woman did neither of those things and on top of that denies she used cake mix.
Even if she charges a bit, as long as it's not 80 FREAKING DOLLARS, it's fine. Like, she still spends time and effort on the cakes. Getting like, up to a few dollars more than the money back for the ingredients is fine imo. If she's just doing it for friends and family.
Though if she does charge more, or if she creates an actually business out of it, she should proooobably mention the cakes are from premade mixes.
(Or at least not advertize them as made from scratch or whatever as the lady mentioned in the video apparently did.)
Most "cake" businesses are charging for the decoration and presentation. There is actually a chemical reason why box mix is ideal for decorating, as the consistency of box mix is more firm and spongey than most home made recipes.
90% of decorated cakes are box mix.
I follow someone on youtube who runs a cake business and freely admits she uses cake mix - and tells everyone. She says the cakes come out nicer than what she could make, and people prefer the flavour. She decorates the cakes beautifully, does heaps of really nice custom shapes and orders and makes lots of sales. I think if you're honest about it from the start then there's no issue - people can choose to shop elsewhere.
The fact that you keep eating the batter, telling yourself to stop, then forgetting and doing it again is such a mood and I love it.
As an avid baker, there’s really nothing wrong with box mix. I don’t usually use it because I’m baking for the experience and I tend to make more unusual flavors. However, you can never match the perfected chemistry of large manufacturers for box mix. I would never tell a novice baker (or someone in a hurry) that they have to make it from scratch. Its the difference between an experiment and a guarantee. You will get a good cake if you use box.
Anyway when you get a cake from a bakery you’re not paying as much for the cake as the decoration. Her decoration sucks haha
you will have a good cake _if_ you have the most bog-standard, focus-tested taste in cake. I personally enjoy my cakes to be like brownies and be so rich I _require_ milk to wash it down.
@@SissypheanCatboy Sir, please turn on your blinker before you change out of your lane.
@@crimsonlion100 no, you're all playing these roads on hard mode today.
the issue isn't that she uses box mix... it's that she claims she makes her cakes from scratch... Scratch does not mean you throw together a box mix and call it from scratch
There’s a lot of bakers that people love on here who have admitted themselves to using box cake mix. It’s wrong when she does it but fine when they do. The cake is ugly but nitpicking her using cake mix is just ridiculous when a lot of content creators do the same thing.
And now you have over 2 mil subscribers. Congrats!!
As a daughter of 2 pastry chefs I am amused by this. I' grew up playing with fondant instead of play-doh and my parents have taught me all they know about their careers. My first red flag is that the cake on 2:42 seems to be TILTLED. Which is probably from uneven layers or she may have applied too much buttercream on one side of the cake causing the weight to tilt it down. On 2:50 you can see her using her hands to spread out the sprinkes. Normally I wouldn't think this is very professional. She should have used an icing smoother or those spatula things or whatever they are called to smoothen the sprinkles onto the cake. Thought 4:40 is disgusting I don't need to explain that. 10:45, Fusion text seems to change direction, size, and a bit of font on every cupcake. What I think is fondant or buttercream for the lightning bolt also seems to have changed A LOT. I also don't think the fondant on top of the cupcake isnt very.. neat, It's obviously too big as we pointed out. On 11:27 I was actually VERY impressed. Thought the brown stains look like shit and the heart looks okay I have a reason to believe she hired someone to make the figurine which is totally okay! It does seem to be a fucking wedding cake so that fucking sucks. Flowers are obviously fake so try better next time, I hope you gave them a refund because it could have been so much better. 11:49, For gods sake, My family is Colombian so we love Encanto and love making cakes of it, But Oh my FUCKING GOD. Please give those parents a refund. I'm literally praying that the Mirabel cut out is edible paper. Roof tiles are literally CRACKING. Meaning that she made it a while ago before handing it to the consumer, But hey! Atleast the flowers are REAL. We got 12:02 over here, Bows are actual really really good! You can see some cracks in the buttercream though. Heart is made terribly, looks like a 2nd grader made it. The Minnie Mouse ears have obviously been mESSED WITH A LOT. Moving on to 12:47 we got pirate cake. The skull emoji is giving the skull emoji on the cake the nasties side eye because what the fuck is that shit. Literally PRAYING that those arent real coins. 4/10 could be better. She should never price more than $10 on those cakes because those are horrific. Now moving on to our dear creators cake! 10/10 best cake I have ever seen. Great representation but remove the excess sprinkles at the bottom.
Tldr: we should start a gofundme for the funeral service for the baker
I actually thought the tilting of the cake might've been from the buttercream melting because the cakes were still fresh out of the oven (although with how the Tiktok is edited It seemed that way), or a lack of support dowels you'd find in more professional cakes.
Living for this analysis
God this review is legendary! I come from a family of bakers (like with a family owned bakery), and I entirely agree with this! Someone else said it first, but at 2:42 I think the cake was tilted because she didn't let it cool at all. she just slapped the buttercream on.
That was short
Using cake mix is acceptable if it’s decorated well, especially if it’s doctored up. (Adding milk instead of water, extra eggs, pudding powder, and additional flavourings are a good way to upgrade a box mix cake. For a denser cake an additional cup of flour is also an option.)
Totally. I made a buttercream painting cake for a friend and pimped out a box cake mix to compensate for how time consuming the decoration was going to be. They were really surprised when I let them know it was a box mix.
Id love to know more, especially about the pudding mix and flavorings. Didn't see those listed from the quick google search i did. Im not a good cook and box mix is usually my go to for the kids birthdays.
Bake My Day Mimo uses cake mix, but her completed cakes show that she's talented.
@@Blackcivicsi1 I'm not sure about the pudding mix, I'm curious about that too, but the additional flavouring is things like Almond essence in the vanilla cake and expresso coffee in chocolate cake, you could probably add something like lemon or orange juice and zest to make a lemon or orange cake, orange could also be added into a chocolate cake to make a Jaffa cake
@Blackcivicsi1 there's endless possibilities out there and people keep discovering new tweaks. One of my favorite ways to modify box mix is substituting the water with milk flavored with earl grey tea and subbing the vegetable oil with melted butter. One thing that was a total game changer for all of the cakes I make was using baking strips, helps round cakes bake with no crispy edge and way less doming.
The thing with the cake mix debacle is a Lot of professional cake artists use boxed mix! THey jsut don't do it as directed on the box; Usually they will use milk instead of water, or use more eggs, add other flavors, etc. This is because boxed cake is so consistent with it's texture that it's easy to experiment, and then get the same result over and over again. Consistency is really important in a business, and that shortcut makes sure of that! I know some people might think it's lazy or about saving money, but when they do all the adjustments the box + bonus stuff cake will cost jsut as much in materials as the from scratch cake- and it will likely be fluffier and taste better!
Personally I don't mind that she does boxed!
Her horrifying 80$ monstrosity though.. that is not alright.
I also don’t mind if bakers use boxed mix, it ends up the same because they’re using the same ingredients either way. The only time I’d have an issue with it is if they lie about it.
Yeah I was gonna say a lot of great bakers use mix. The issue with her cakes is the hygiene, quality, and attitude. She charged too much for a pile of 💩 then had the audacity to play blame games instead of being accountable
Yep! I work in a cafe that also makes pies and cakes. We order giant bags of cake mix.
Yea boxed mixes are awesome and in no way inferior in general cake use cases.
This was the comment I was looking for… a lot of bakeries use cake mix and it’s nothing wrong with it. Just make it look and taste better than what I can do
6:39 Why'd I think of lord farquad from shrek
Now I can't unsee it-
To be fair, box mix isn't "wrong" to use, and sometimes people will dress it up with other things (e.g. use box mix but add extra chocolate or flavorings). It's really common. But, if you're gonna do that, you better be good at decorating to make the price point worth it.
Yeah, I agree. I know one cake decorator from here on UA-cam that uses cake box mix, but they don’t just follow the directions on the box. They substitute those basic ingredients for better quality ones that make the cake taste homemade. Their videos also show how much care they put into the job and I know I’d feel like I’d be getting my money’s worth if I was to buy something from them.
Yeah box mix is not the biggest deal, but usually bakers who use cake mix have great fillings and buttercream/fondant decorations so the art of the cake makes up for it
Exactly, her cakes have absolutely no effort put into them. there is no way she can justify charging 80 bucks for that leaning tower of sprinkles
I know a lot of people use it to more easily make a flavor, like red velvet since its easier
bake my day mimo uses box mix and her cakes look AMAZING, so much effort into each one
I love how she’s wearing a true crime shirt while baking a rainbow sprinkle cake 👌🏻👌🏻 But seriously, I work in a bakery myself and we would get fired if we made a cake order look this bad. As someone who decorates cakes, this is NOT worth $80 for a cake.
I’m literally a 14yo cake decorator and I do a better job than this, and I only charge 20-25 for a six inch cake.
@@KatsukiBakugooo tbh i think it cant get any worse, even if you throw your freshly made cake against a mossy brick wall it still looks better than this "cake"
They actually go by they/them btw :)
@@DUWANGlai_kangyi and? Lmfaooo
@e- w- I don’t order overpriced mid coffee that’s packed with useless calories. Reminding people of certain pronouns is stupid
I'm very aware I can't achieve even what Kylie has decorating wise. That said? I'm not trying to sell them. And that Wednesday cake comparison just gave Nailed It vibes
Then thing is, I think you could. Her skills look like a non-baker, like some mom decided to make her kid's themed cake herself rather than pay a baker.
@@scooter21 it looks like she barely tries you know? Because I used to make shitty cakes (but I didn’t go around selling them for 80 dollars lol) and after many tries my cakes are good now! She says she teaches cooking/baking and has been doing it for years yet her cakes are shittier than when I started making cakes?
the cake mix used in the video goes bad today
I watched this video in April of 2024, 11 months after it was posted. They were only at 100k then, and now theyre at 1.62 million! I love your content :D
7 mil veiws and 1.75 Mill subscribers
The way she says "i replaced the original background and make it white" in the wednesday cake absolutely made me feel like she gaslight me 💀💀💀
I'm SO glad someone else brought it up, I legit had to rewind the video to double check that's what she said.
My question is: why was ANYONE paying her for that crap?
Really small town, only one cake shop, and everyone has full time jobs? Best guess.
The fake/stolen images on the website probably helped scam the poor people who ordered online
It’s West Virginia? I think I heard that.
Probably not many options.
@@nwj03aNow they have zero options. LOL!
She scammed and lied to people by using fake photos
This video has such a high level of rewatchability I love it so much thank you Funky ❤
As the daughter of a baker, i'm flabbergasted. The price is too much, the presentation of the cake is SUPERRRRR important cuz the talent and skill is what gives the price (well from what i know), that's at least a 15 dollar cake. This lady makes small business cake bakers look like a joke! :[
This woman’s cakes are the embodiment of the phrase “sometimes things that are expensive… are worse”
I love that she cornered the "rich people who think $$$ is fancy and/or have so much money they don't care" market
I mean you gotta get ballsy to eat the rich
@@alexia3552 I would respect her if she wasn't so rude.
As a regular person who likes baking for my family, her cakes look awful and are expensive, my cakes are pretty cheap taste good look good and are made with love
This is why I erased all dreams of wanting to own my own bake shop. You really have to have the technical skills and creativity to effectively create unique and beautiful pastries; just because you love something doesn’t mean you should do it as your profession.
The thing is that if you want your dreams to come true, you gotta actually try and improve your craft.
Which anyone can do. Shes just really fucking stubborn about it and cares more about making a lot of money instead of making something she can both be proud of and that the clients can enjoy.
Dreams can always come true with a lot of time and effort. Always.
@@BloodMarket I agree, where their's a will, there's a way!
I think you can have a successful business by providing good quality classics, not just unique products, at least in small towns. I live in a small town and my family goes to one bakery for all cakes, and almost all the town also frequents that bakery because they’re good and we trust the quality of their products. They don’t have interesting cakes but they make the best ones and most people are happy with it. I don’t know if this would work everywhere but in a small town it works. So yeah you need the technique but not the crazy gimmicks I think.
I'd watch more cooking videos from you, that last segment was a delight. The chicken and the egg bit came so out of nowhere I choked on my drink.
I have no bakery education, but I love baking. I take pride in my work. This is not just an insult to professionals, it's an insult everyone. Thanks for covering this story
FR, I do some home baking because its something I enjoy, I’ve been doing it for almost 20yrs at this point but I’ve never sold anything and I never would outside from maybe a fundraiser bake sale - but that’s the worst frosting job I’ve ever seen, never even mind what the heck she did with those sprinkles!
Exactly!! Like how can someone charge so much for a cake that they didn’t even have the effort to care about making it look good. Smh
Same here and my cakes look so much better than hers. I’m 16 and she’s a grown ass woman 🙄
Yeah; I'm just a mom who has made lots of kids birthday cakes, and mine are (usually) nicer than that.
I paid a lot of money for my wedding cake and it was a work of art
Congrats on 200k!!!
I am a professional cake artist and, while my cakes are too expensive for the average consumer, I have a niche clientele base and my work quality reflects in the price.
I am convinced that this woman was told one too many times by her gram gram or ladies at church that her cakes were just so beautiful and "you should really be making money doing this 😉" but like... They were just being nice and not very genuine but she took it to heart 😭
I think, she can charge what she wants. But this issue is that her social media on Facebook uses images of cakes that aren’t hers. False advertising what she can do, making people think the price point makes sense. If she posted her real cakes more often, then people would be Abel to make the decision to think “nah, not worth it for me, I’ll go else where”.
I think you’re right about that. If you watch the video on UA-cam of the day she opened her bakery, and she said she never thought about owning a cake business before but the opportunity opened up and she thought, why not? I live right down the road from Kylie’s Kakes, although I’ve never been there and never heard anyone talk about it. I hadn’t even heard of it until her TikTok video went viral. I’ve been wondering how tf did she get the opportunity to open up a bakery?? It baffles me.
Do you have a instagram where you can order your cakes?
@@abbiesadler4324 Yeah no, for sure. Posting other people's work means her customers don't get to make an informed decision. I don't use others' images and I don't copy work either. I make this very clear to my clients that their cakes will take inspiration from any references they give me but it will be bespoke and just for them. Kylie's customers are getting cakefished 😂😭
@@otyliagoszczynska7377 I replied to you days ago but it ooks like my reply got blocked or something maybe. Probably because I tried to share my socials 😭
the fact she called out someone publicly acting the victim when it turned out she delivered a shity busted product and ya her being awful after was the real nail in the coffin
i used to watch your videos on tiktok and now your chanel is my favorite! im so happy your chanel is geting bigger