STW #99: The Big Boss Man
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- On this episode: From an untrained enhancement talent to the main event at Madison Square Garden against Hulk Hogan in under three years, nobody has a story like Ray Traylor! Bruce and Conrad briefly touch on the Big Bubba Rogers days before breaking down how Boss Man got his big break in the business and how the gimmick came to be, why he was chosen to work with Hogan, why the character got over, why Hogan loved working with him, why Slick was chosen instead of Bobby Heenan, how much money Boss Man was making on top (?!), how Andre felt about him, why Boss Man was turned babyface, whether or not he was considered for a tag title run with Akeem or an IC title run, why he lost so much weight during his first run, why he left, how he came by, how he was repackaged, the feud with Austin, why he was perfect for McMahon's Corporation, why he was sent to OVW, and what happened to end his run with WWE. We also talk about how Curt Hennig's death affected him, his relationship with the boys, his unfortunate passing at just 42 years old, and his legacy in the business.
Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard is an audio podcast that discusses topics, events, wrestlers and memorable moments through the lens of former WWE executive Bruce Prichard co-hosted by Conrad Thompson.
The show was launched in August 2016 on MLW Radio. The episodes typically range from 2 hours to 4 hours in length, and include discussions about previous WWE pay-per-views and former WWE wrestlers.
Oh and we didn't forget the time he stole a dog, cooked it and fed it another guy, and then they had the remains on a pole in a match. Or the Kennel in a Cell. Or his poem for Big Show's daddy or the time he ruined that funeral. What a story folks, don't miss over THREE hours of the Big Boss Man!
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What makes this podcast stand out from the rest is Conrad's personality. It's like whenever I listen to him he sounds like an old friend you feel you've known forever. The camaraderie between Conrad and Bruce adds another layer of warmth and enjoyment to the show. Keep up the great work guys!
I like that Conrad is a completist and tries to get answers to every possible question that's been out there over the years.
Couldn’t agree more - they work very well with one another
a "completist"... nice term
Conrad is the spitting image and sounds just like a South Carolina native I know named Stan. Alabama and SC are very similar cultures.
Chad Pugh
i was born and raised in SC and i agree. i love Conrad and his interviewing skills, and i love Bruce as well. and even tho I'm a SC native, since childhood, I've been a Bama football fan. ROLL TIDE. Also love Conrad and Tony. And Conrad's podcast with Eric had made me love Eric as well. Conrad deserves that podcast belt that Bruce gave him because he earned it and earns it each and every week.
this show is the perfect compliment to jim cornette's many awesome ray traylor stories. great worker, great guy.
"I'm gonna take issue with the negative 3 stars--because it wasn't that good"
maybe the best thing I've heard bruce say
9:30 Is when they start talking about The Big Boss Man
Bless you
One of the few legends who have been in the ring with Austin and Yellowtighty Hogan.
@Boom Diggaty Actually, Stone Cold was kind of a rip off of Dr. D David Schultz.
Undertaker vicira
REST IN PEACE 2 A LEGEND LOST U TOO SOON BROTHER!
ozzy perez for sure man. One of the best heels. He made us hate him which means he did a great job. Rest In Peace Boss man.
SHO YA RIGHT✊🤙
Big Boss man
Ray Traylor
1 of the best big men in the business.
9:38 skip the ...well you know.
I love you
trenrod I love him more 😍
Thank you!
I love you, AAAAND I like you! Thanks for the time stamp.
Dont want to hear about erections on wrestling show
I was hoping they were going to mention the Twin Towers/slick appearance on the Arsenio Hall Show back in 1989......
I saw bossman and Hogan in a cage match at Hershey PA. What a fantastic time to be a kid watching it live with my Dad and Grandfather! Bossman was very believable to me as a kid!
I think it was in Dynamite Kid's book, he talked about how dedicated Ray Traylor was to perfecting nuances about his character. He said you'd see him backstage eating a sandwich with one hand and practicing twirling his night stick in the other.
I believe he mentions how on a TV taping Ray comes out twirling the stick and it fly's out of his hand, and he makes it look worse by running to retrieve it 😂
One of the best STW episodes. Big Boss Man was one of my most favorite wrestlers and despite the sad ending, I really enjoyed this episode.
A lot of people don't remember how over Boss Man was with the fans during his face run. Even right before he left in 1993 he was one of the more popular wrestlers on the roster.
Shut up
I just made a comment on another Bossman video. Retrospectively, Ray Traylor may be the most underrated pro wrestler ever. We need a new category besides Greatest Wrestler, Best In-Ring Worker, Best Mic Skills, etc. Perhaps the most "solid" talent of all time when you look at his ring work, psychology, interviews, look . . .
RIP BOSS MAN!!!!!!
Boss Man VS The Mountie at Summerslam 91 is one of my favorite matches of all time, such good memories from being a little guy
I'M THE MOUUUNTIE!!! (you wanna meet me buddy? Here's me buddy.) GET ME OUTTA HERE!!! Good times. 😁
Mountie got raped in jail
The mountie got gangraped.
What a career retrospect, great work guys. From watching this stuff as a kid to learning what went on behind the scenes is fantastic. Boss Man was always my favourite as a kid, vivid memories of going to Woolworths to buy his figure and they did not have it, had to choose between Ted DiBiaise and Smash....... I chose Smash :/
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Boss man created by the American Dream.. Awesome, great podcast!!!
A great tribute around the 3 hour mark Bruce, your words where so kind and thankyou also Conrad for your research . One of the best big men the business has ever seen. Ray you will be missed and never forgotten great episode
Love this episode so much. Boss man was always my favorite. I remember when he re joined the corporation on raw and hugged Vince and Shane and JR was like “Aw isn’t that nice? Let’s all have a great big hug.” :)
Remember when they teased a face turn and he came out to the 92 theme song?
@@johncap7201 June 28th,1999 the Raw after King Of The Ring where he said "I love you guys" and rejoined The Corporate Ministry
@@mikeypitt8315 “get out the Barf bags “😂
@@oldpainless316 😂 what a tease tho lol
Boss Man/ Bubba Rogers/ Ray Traylor was awesome. I loved the skit on The Brother Love Show with the face turn and DiBiase with the belt in the bag with Damien and Jake handcuffed in the ring.
I think one of the reasons Bossman was great as a heel and a face in his first WWF run was that his size with that agility and athleticism allowed him to work with anyone. He could bump around and do the big monster spots for the "super faces", but there were a lot of "mediumweight", technically sound heels in the WWF in the late eighties/nineties like Perfect, Rude etc. and he could believably hang in the ring with them. Was a fan when I was a kid and remember him pulling a leg-feed Enzugiri out of his arsenal, must have sat there open mouthed for at least a minute or so, you didn't see 350-400 pounders doing that at that time very often.
Grew up watching Boss Man. My father was a CO as well so I really liked Ray’s character. His first WWF run was great but him losing to everyone in 1993 was disappointing. Too bad Boss Man hadn’t worked with Bigelow in June 1988 before he departed. Boss Man and Bigelow should have worked more together, similar size. RIP Ray Traylor.
Yeah man I hated how they used him at the end of his face run. Him losing to Bam Bam at the Royal Rumble devestated me as a kid. I just hated watching Bret Hart climb the card while Ray was getting phased out. Couldn't have neen happier when he came back as Corporate Boss Man.
Say what you want about Bruce, but bless his heart you can tell it hit him hard when he spoke about Ray's death. Bless y'all & stay safe out there....
😥😥
Summit the summit the summit in Houston the Houston summit
I miss The Bossman SO much!!!!:(
My only complaint with this episode was I really wish they talked more of Boss Man's 1993 stuff. He did stuff with USWA and SMW at the time as Boss Man and I would've been curious to know if they had to get permission with WWF or it was automatically cool because they had a working relationship. I also would love for them to bring up Boss Man working All Japan during the second half of 1993 under his Big Bubba name but still wore his Big Boss Man attire and carried his nightstick.
But the thing that disappointed me the most was that they didn't bring up that Boss Man returned for a one night appearance on December 4th as a guest referee for a match between Bret Hart and Jeff Jarrett and it looked like he was coming back but then immediately went to WCW. According to Dave Meltzer, the WWF was under the impression he was coming back at the 1994 Royal Rumble before he signed with WCW. I would like to know what happened and if it was true he was supposed to come back and if so, why he chose not to.
I disagree with Bruce saying Boss Man didn't need a title because I felt he needed the Intercontinental Championship at Wrestlemania VII since it was so strange to have Bobby Heenan insult his mother then have him plow through the remnants of The Heenan Family only to just settle for a disqualification when he finally had a chance to deliver the biggest blow to Heenan by beating his prized possession Mr. Perfect and take the title. Great story but flat ending.
All of this. When he just disappeared from tv in 93 I was devestated. I recently heard Cornette do an interview where he said Ray left WWF the first time because he thought Vince was going to jail.
Bruce and Conrads cartoon images remind me of Ricky and Julian.
The superplex off the top of the blue cage with Hogan was pretty damn cool!
WAS A MAJOR FAN OF Big Bubba Rogers since 1986...Was not really a Bossman fan. Bruce Prichard's imitation of Dusty is Eerie, WOW! Will agree that Hogan-Bossman SNME cage match was great.
Listening to this as I ride through Cobb Co Georgia on I75 through Marietta!
i got to meet big boss man in 1992 he was signing autographs at the buffalo auto show here i remember when it was my turn he asked me if I ever drank Colorado koolaid before??? than he said nahhh you too young for that dude!! I was eleven years old hahaha I also was able to see him wrestle many house shows here in Buffalo at the aud and the Niagara falls convention center and wrestlemania six in Toronto only a hour away from Buffalo N.Y. I was truly saddened when he passed away
Brian Spellbergio you saw him in Niagara Falls at the Niagara Falls Convention Center.I don't say I saw the Buffalo Bills in Niagara Falls... Niagara County 4 life 😂
jeremy bayne I'm super lost dude
"here in buffalo at the aud and the niagara falls convention center".........sounds like the convention center is in buffalo? wrestling fans pointing out/correcting grammar.....life is over!
Exactly!!, 📷 👨 🔎 IT!
One of my favorite Wrestlers. Glad he beat the Rock and we can get a episode about him. Great show. And the Lineup for the Summer looks great.
Hey Bruce we want you to have a show in Grand Rapids MI...IF YOU BOOK IT...WE WILL COME
I loved the big boss man.... I loved the matches with Hogan on Saturday night main event...but my favorite match was The Boss vs Vader spring stamped 1994.
Well let's take a trip down to Cobb County Georgia
Respect the law and order, you'll serve hard times!
cobb county is nw Atlanta basically though that doesn't sound quite like the sticks as much as cobb county
If Hulk did that superplex from the top of the cage with Big Boss Man at WM2, that would have been a WrestleMania moment for sure.
When I saw Hulk Hogan suplex the Big Boss Man off the top of the steel cage on Saturday Night's Main event, still one of the more amazing moments I remember. It ranks up there with Hogan bodyslamming Andre in Wrestlemania 3.
Love the Segway into an advert for hair loss products by talking about hulk hogan being bald haha
I love old school WWF music during it. Brings back a lot of memories for me. I felt like I was 10 years old again when I heard that.
That seemed seamless!
Hell yeah...."jive Soul bro"....best entrance song ever!
Heel boss man had the best music, then banging the steps with the stick while staring down the opponent. Awesome
Boss man had a whiplash elimination at Rumble 92. It always looks brutal.
It's OK Bruce, we all miss Ray..God bless you brother
Huge fan of this podcast
Big Boss Man was the shit back then! Hogan introducing him as his partner on the brother love show was epic! Pritchards face when the music started playing was one of his best works ever!
IMHO I think Bossman was the first of the many "big guy" wrestlers who were able to do things that men that size should not be able to do. He was talent personified.
Please please please please what is the song which starts playing at 1:37:55 when they're talking about the tshirts??? Thanks in advance! RIP Ray Traylor, so lovely to hear you were one of the good guys in real life.
The Big Boss Mans Attitude Era theme song was badass, one of my all time favorite theme songs, I remember being 18 year's old and watching Raw is War and Being all into his feud with The Big Show.
I remember being so pissed at Big Boss Man for being so disrespectful and cruel to the Big shows dad who died and the Big Boss Man was reading a mean letter he wrote to Big shows father on Raw Is War.
When he tied his truck to Big Shows father's coffin during his funerial with a huge chain and big show chasing him and jumping on his truck and falling...OmG classic. Big Boss Man was the first pro wrestling toy I owned as a kid in 1989. RIP Ray Traylor aka Big Boss Man (May 2, 1963 - November 22, 2004) Boss Man 🕴👮🚔 he would be 55 year's old now. He was an extraordinary big man and worker, and was fast, agile, and had extreme speed for a big man, he would do flips and epic drop kicks, and did very acrobatic moves for a big man, that was very rare back then. He did stuff a cruiserweight did. He was 450lb and 6 foot 8 back then. Him Bam Bam biglow, Bam Bam Terry Gordy, Vader were the best big men in the business.
I'll always remember Hulk suplexed Boss Man from the top turnbuckle(or the top of the cage), and they both bounced up and landed side by side
Brother Love?!? When are we gonna get a Ric Flair episode?!? Conrad your starting to grow on me. I respect the fact that you research pro wrestling the way I do. Love you dude's.
Love this show
I wonder if he spent all day working hard on the go? Hypothetically
K Dissette But what if the hands on the clock keep on spinning too slow? CAN he wait to be alone with his baby ton-iiigghhhhtttt!!!!?
Well you know....
doot doot doot
K Dissette hey i got an ideal!!!
Man I wish Big Bossman was the IC Champion when he faced Mr.Perfect I know I'm not the only person that thinks like that.
He was one of my favorites back in the day loved watching BBM he could move for a big man
Greetings from winnipeg. Thanks for these shows.
Finally a brother love, episode! HELL YEAH!!
Loved Big Bubba Rogers/Big Boss Man. RIP Big guy. You will always be remembered.
Having a funeral going on while filming the cemetry scene on a Sunday was the worst luck possible! I know for a fact every cemetery and funeral home worker does everything they can to not schedule services on Sundays. In many states because of union workers restrictions, they can't be scheduled on Sundays. Bruce has the shittiest luck!
In Minnesota it would have been called a pop machine
Ray was 22 when he started with JCP. So, he would have been 18-21 being a prison guard. That seems pretty young to be doing that job.
Blind Terry Tucci I suppose if he went straight from High school to working in the prison, be 6'-7" tall, I think they push you through training quickly.
Here in the South, it's a pretty normal age. In a lot of smaller communities and towns, being a prison guard or a coal miner is your most reliable source of a liveable income. It's been that way for years, man.
Blind Terry Tucci I started at late nineteen
The Contrarian yet here you are stupid idiot!!
Ironically One Man Gang became a prison guard at Angola State Prison in Louisiana where he works on death row and is a member of the execution team.
I'm going to go check out that Price of fame movie now. Thanks for the recommendation guys!
Loved boss man! He was a great worker, so believable and was an absolute giant back when he started, really he must’ve lost 20 stone or about 300lb by the time he had his last run...... R.I.P Ray Trailer
DaChronical a little bit of everything!! He weighed 450lbs in the late 80s to early 90s, and lost 230lbs by 1995, and was 300lbs by 1997 and that's why he was much thinner and weighed less by the attitude era. He was still a big guy in the late 90s but not ass massive and gigantic as he was in the late 1980s and early 1990s. I noticed that too when I saw him in the attitude era, I was like wow, is that big boss man from the late 1980s and a few years ago, he use to be huge, he lost alot of weight.
this was a great episode.
Bruce mimicking Vince Russo "Bro! Bro! What's the Peter salt!?"😂😂😂
The pepper dinner was great
Sad they never did another Jailhouse Match. Would be funny to see somebody like Stephanie or Miz to have to spend the night in jail lol
if you're not first you're last!!GREETINGS from Buffalo N.Y. the best city in the world !!
Brian Spellbergio From Rochester to Buffalo all the way GO BILLS!!
All wight all wong heyyyyy heyyy my neighbor!!! how excited are you for our beloved bills this year ???
Brian Spellbergio Brother not gonna lie I'm pumped UP!!!! Can't wait for the season to KICK OFF BROTHER!!!
That's real deep
Bills Mafia!! Ohio here.
"What if his dad WASN'T his real dad? Ha HA! Good SHIT! He's been LIED to his whole life!" - Vince McMahon
I remember during his heel run in the Attitude era they teased the classic face Boss Man theme then he came out in full heel get up trolling the fans
I love how he always goes to these 80s/90s stars and is like could he headline a WM and always goes to Bundy's spot at WM2 Haha. Yes most guys could have taken that Bundy spot! But they didn't. Bundy did.
Boss could really move for a big guy.
This thumbnail makes you two look like The Trailer Park Boys.
Big boss man sounds like a great dude. Thinking back, he did seem to be limited in the ring but he looked like a badass
Stupid comment ,The Bossman was great in the ring, if anything his underrated by some.
@@mikeypitt8315 I commented a year ago. Either way I liked the boss man. If your a dude that fights in the comments, your not gonna get a whole lot out of me lol
@@geogonz352 I'm not not my thing lol
"Pimpin ain't easy,dawg!"
Oh, my side, hahahaha!
The 91 Chamber of Horrors Match was bad too. I mean trying to electrocute a guy? But the Kennel match was bad
Hilarious hearing Bruce describe the funeral scene!!
Give Bruce his credit, He’s a friend of J B L, which should be illegal but he, ever so cleverly, exposes everyone he worked with, including McMahon. ‘97 McMahon saying Austin had no personality and offering Warrior a multi million dollar contract after Survivor series 97, then 4 months later cutting commercials saying Austin is the biggest draw in company history,
Pritchard will not say why he really had a heart attack (like many other wrestlers) at an early age. Bug the Honkey Tonk Man and Slick fo. Slick indicated there was substance abuse involved in his life.
I'm gonna bring you down to Cobb County Georgia and show you some hard time Big Boss Man style
I wish there was a video for this episode
Love hearing the stories about Ray Traylor and how he did as The Big Boss Man. Glad I wasnt the only one who hated the Kennel from hell match. That was the dumbest shit I have ever seen. He left such a huge mark on the business. Thanks to the WWE network we can relive that journey that Ray did throughout the wrestling business.
Alot people have actually complained about the hanging being cut.
brother they should have had hulk with his brother Brutus on the brother love show brother, would have been great brother
If you strap a rocket to Pork Chop Cash, do you call that The Pork Chop Express? ;)
Having that looping video in the background makes this video SOOOO much bigger to download via mobile. Keeping it most still would be much better.
At 2:20:00 People love reminding people how fake wrestling is, but when they do certain storylines all of sudden people can't accept that it is not real? Now what kind of bipolar shit is that?
They should've use guard theme his 98-02 entrance theme which was a superior theme to hard themes.
This should be a good one.
Happy birthday, Big Boss Man
#BigBossMan
#WWE
#WWEHoF
Edit: he died at 41 of a heart attack. That's way too young by any measure 😪
Just snooping the comments to see if any bodies bookmarked when they talk about Nailz
Oh 1 hour and 26 there it is
Anybody ever actually save with Bruce or Conrad? Was mortgage lending Conrad’s real day job or did he get a sponsor after doing all the podcasts and they just let him add his name for marketing purposes?
I actually liked the Pepper segment when it happened, but it was a risky thing. I have almost always had dogs, so it was rough. However, I knew they didn't really cook Pepper at the time.
Chris Bishop I was in 11th grade at the time and I will never forget that one of the kids in class thought that he really ate the dog
Phil Mantagas
Fucking lost it when bruce just started eating into the mic
Please do a watch along show for the true story of wrestlemania dvd
Why is Conrad with Ronald Reagan in the photo? That poem was rough but the casket/funeral thing was hilarious - one of the funniest things in wwe ever. Bruce's rationalizing disrupting a funeral though is b.s. That MIGHT be one of those 'special place in hell' type deals lol ;)
i fucking LOVE this episode!
That Meltzer story just proves what a jerk he is, and that he doesn't love the business, he just tries to profit from it. What a waste of a human
'88 survivor Series was the 2nd one, not first Conrad
Ray Traylor was a great big man. I feel terrible about losing so easily
WWE needs to do a Mental Institution Security Guard gimmick.
Bossman vs Dusty Rhodes was a main event all in the northeast in 89 , many of the them sell outs.
1:36:25 is the best moment in the show's history
Why didn't they talk about the Boss Man song? Who sang it? Also, they completely ignored Boss Man's match at WrestleMania XVI.
Pritchard your suppose to tell the stories man. Did you honestly even truly know these stories? According to Cornette , big Bubba left because beautiful Bobby , loverboy Dennis and Cornette was paid 10 grand for climbing the scaffold to only 5 grand for Bubba for climbing the same scaffold. He felt underappreciated. Get me on the show Conrad. I know all the legend stories.