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And you really believe this mental health condition couldn’t be possible and even more covered up due to her wealth and power ? This sort of thing happens even today with wealthy and just plain sick people ,just ask Trump about his buddy who mysteriously hung himself .🤣
@@DarkSektori I lnow. i get all these folks trying to be objective, but... this was before the internet, and it is known the public may have been told she would be burned for witchcraft. but those murdered were relatives . cousins . I doubt it was usually daughters . no. they did much worse. nobles were not burned, traditionally, ? and it was too quick a death for her.
Watching this reminds me how much I miss when channels like the History channel, actually produced high quality, documentaries about history... Rather than Pawn Stars, Ancient Aliens, Ice Road Truckers, etc. There's a lot of great historical content on UA-cam now, but I really just miss the high production values, I guess. (Though channels like this still do a great job, for what must be an extremely smaller budget.)
All jokes aside, I've wondered what shows like ice road truckers has to do with history. Pawn stars and Ancient Aliens maybe more so, dealing with historical artifacts and speculation, but still..
@@vnchronicler5358 Good for you. Congratulations. You are fluent in many langyages. I think that the pronunciation in this video is far better than on most.
I agree. I was engaged into a Hungarian family where the language was spoken 50% of the time. We had Janos which was learned to me by the history of Hungary. The side words and their meaning still remind me of the past. The narrator is perfect.
Greetings, Jess! How are you doing? I came across your channel here and I got interested to drop this comment on your post. I just want us to be friends. Let’s chat
Not only that all the accusations might be false to begin with about her. There's men including her relatives could have paid off the priests and of course those men wanted her Fortune$$ What better way to get it.
Hypocrisy was around wayyyyy before religion and will be here for a long time to come. Too bad it isn't made aware to the poor saps involved until way too late
@@massimoricciardi6202 I've always questioned "organized" religion's motives for just about anything involving 💰💰💰and/or power so I can sympathize with a there. I can believe in God my own way but not made to feel like I'm gonna burn for making huge transgressions like wearing pants or telling my hubby to piss-off here or there. (Clutch the pearls!)
Excellent work! This was fascinating. I've always found Elizabeth Bathory interesting, particularly that there is so much myth and contradicting accounts of her in a time when superstition and chaos ran supreme. Well done!
Listening to non-Hungarians saying Hungarian names/words makes me smile. Thank you for trying your best, feels good to hear my language being respected as such.
It's ridiculous that the 2 men who benefitted from Elizabeth's troubles were also her primary accusers, both having specific reasons to elicit false testimony & "witness statements." Then, a relative of one of the men is the first to write about her "crimes" *100 years* later. I wonder how much more he embellished the story to further improve his status.
They may have done away with her because of her lands and wealth but she certainly gave them a good reason to. Everybody yak about Bathory being targeted because she’s a woman but nobody talked about the nameless peasant girls she and her husband abused and killed. Even if 95 percent of her supposed victims were exaggerated, that still leaves her in the realm of 30, which still placed her in the top 10 of serial killer body counts.
I can't get enough of them. I am fascinated with history and feel like humanity will never be as interesting in the future as we have already been in the past.
Absolutely a great documentary and very well done. Most videos on this subject play out the horror to get people to watch and can't be bothered to do any real research on Elizabeth or her upbringing or family background.They go for body count instead of real facts. So thanks for doing a thorough job with the Family history and I applaud the narrator, well done and I look forward to seeing more from the channel, regards Scott.
Trivia: No one used the term "serial killer" until FBI agent Robert Ressler coined it in the 1970s. But the term is a direct translation of the German term "Serienmörder" coined in 1930 by Berlin investigator Ernst Gennat.
That doesn't mean Ressler took the term "Serial Killer" from the German "Serienmörder", it just means "Serial Killer" is the English "translation" of the German term "Serienmörder".... so what point exactly you are trying correlate is a mystery, you might as well just pick any random English term and announce that you've found the German translation...
@nicolasrose3064 Well, I didn't come up with it since I'm not from the 1930s. So maybe you should ask the ones who came up with the words? This is sort of like, "I'm just the messenger, not the message." I'm just relaying the message in simple terms. Apparently, not to some.
@@tomcat8983 You have completely missed the point of my comment, so... you've kinda walked in a circle straight into your "apparently not to some" reference..... You're "not from the 1930's"... no-one is trying to say you are, all you've done is zero in on "Serial Killer" and tried to fit a German translation to the term, it has absolutely zero relevance other than it being the translation of a term....."oh look, the term 'Serial Killer', ooo, I know, I'll make it look like it has a correlation between it, and the German translation and give it some vague relevance to the videos content...."
@@tomcat8983 What has E.Bathory got to do with the German translation of the term "Serial Killer".... what exactly is its relevance, she wasn't German, lived in a completely different Century to Ressler, and why the insistence on the assertion that the term "Serial Killer" "is a direct translation of the German term".... seriously, the implication you are fabricating, is this fiction that Ressler "coined the term Serial Killer" as a "direct translation of the German term".....
@nicolasrose3064 so your whole point is trying to make me look like an ass while doing the same to yourself, right? Apparently, you missed my point by a whole freaking mile.
Some of it was likely true. Exaggerated of course but true. The peasantry were complaining for years about her. The nobles who lost their daughters too. They can't all be liars. The Bathories had a genuine reputation for being cruel in general.
@@jamiemohan2049 Yes they can. There were epidemics of witch burning in that era too don't forget, but witches don't exist outside of imagination. So all of that nonsense was made up and thousands of innocents killed.. There were no newspapers then, just local gossip over the garden fence that got more lurid with each retelling. If you behaved in the slightest out of what your neighbors considered ordinary then you would be subject to tales like this. And if you were prominent the stories would mushroom, with each variant of the original gossip becoming a "new" victim.
Sorry to reply again, but…she was torturing and killing girls from noble families for quite a long time before anyone dared cross her. You might want to take a bit of her self assurance for yourself
Correction: The literal meaning of the word 'bátor' is 'brave', it has no connotations referring to the person in question as being good. The closest to what's described here would be the word 'vitéz' used to refer to soldiers/warriors with the connotation of the person being honored. (but still not directly good) Apart from the mythological explanation the family was named after the place Batur, present day Nyírbátor. The h and y were usually added to noble family names to add legitimacy with the archaic writing style and make the family name sound older than it is. Originally the dynasty founder taken up the name Bátori.
@@mjcoronel61 To add to this, though i'm not entirely sure but i think the TPP channel might have based this on the original name of the line 'Gutkeled', which includes the term 'good' but 'keled' just means 'curly haired' based on the German word 'klett'. There's also the German word 'held' which sounds similar to the original name of the Báthory family. Maybe that's where the assumption from TPP came from.
Excellent video! I became a huge fan of Eastern European Mythology when I was stationed in Romania for three years and I got to travel and see a lot of castles and historic places. Vlad Tepes was a complex figure and I always found similarities between him and Elizabeth Bathory, but wondered how they came about. You really explained it well. I always find learning the truth behind the myths to be rewarding. Thank you, for putting this video out. I really enjoyed it. Great research too.
@@michaelwalcund7574 tell that to Stalin... So Transylvania who is at the core of this story, when it belonged to Hungary was part of Central Europe but now because it is part of Romania it is on Easter Europe.
@@michaelwalcund7574 Don't be so self conscious about it, nobody looks down upon you for being from Eastern Europe, it's the best part of the continent.
Vlad Tepes was not a vampire. Its a myth. He was just a cruel count that was impaling war prisoners, and implemented drakonian punishments to some of the citizens of his county.
Much impressed by this very impartial account, and also by the narrator's excellent pronunciation of the various personal and place names; my feelings about Countess Bathory's alleged crimes is that they were totally exaggerated, but that there was, most likely some factual basis of a much lesser degree; unfortunately, we shall never know for certain now. Bit, overall, a very good management of a difficult subject.
As a hungarian person, let me tell you, the pronounciaton was far from excellent. But also...hungarian is a really difficult language with unique pronounciation so I don't blame him. A+ for trying.
Having watched various documentaries and read several accounts, I would think that Elizabeth Bathory was mentally disturbed in some sense, was certainly cruel, and may have killed quite a few servants, but the 600+ number of victims seems ridiculously excessive. She may have well been one of the first recorded serial killers though. Very good documentary! Thank you. 💕💞💖💀☠️💀🥀🖤🖤🖤🖤☕️☕️☕️☕️
I learned so much from this video. I had once read that she killed 600+ people and was only found out when a servant girl escaped and that she would shove straws in girls arms and drank the blood. This video makes so much more sense and it’s crazy how things can be so grossly exaggerated. I had no inkling it could possibly be a way to grab power fr her.
She wasn’t a serial killer. Death was just a byproduct of her cruelty. And the number is close. She ‘disappeared’ hundreds of girls that she ordered to the castle. Only the ignorant claim land grab. It was only after she decided to go after the nobles’ daughters, and many of those, that the nobles felt there were enough of them to call for an investigation. She retained her holdings. She retained her castle and was treated exactly like she was before. Her uncle was king of Poland. Her family ruled Transylvania. Some recent professors are trying to make names for themselves on modern ‘feminism’
@@debbylou5729 Well said. I live by the castle (Cachtice) where she was locked up. Naturally I've read many books about her, mostly primary sources. There is no question she was a sadist. Of course the numbers of her victims were exaggerated, everyone exaggerates, but I am more appalled by the 21st century bumpkins from across the continent who are sure she was innocent, even brilliant woman a martyr. It is sickening how history gets constantly twisted to support some contemporary western narrative that has nothing to do with Hungarian History.
I remember looking her up on youtube years ago just to be disappointed by the sensationalism. It's great to finally see that change, you have my like and sub. As for her bodycount and potential guilt; Ever since I learned what you briefly mention at 18:33 I thought the whole thing was bs. The woman was dealing with displaced populations including medical care, over a large chunk of a war-torn (literally into 3) country during cholera outbreaks and famine. Yet they couldn't find any physical evidence. How hard would it have been to fabricate some? Surely some of the people fleeing the turks who would later die under her care had suffered gruesome wounds. The medical technology of the time was practically indistinguishable from torture. And still, not a single mutilated body to support the narrative. No wonder she was never actually tried. Thurzó must've known he doesn't have a case.
A little clarification: Louis II of Hungary (Buda, July 1, 1506 - Mohács, August 29, 1526) King of Hungary and Bohemia between 1516 and 1526. The Jagiellonian II. Son of King Ulaszló and Queen Anna Candale. In 1508, he was already Hungarian, and from 1509, Czech king. He died in the Battle of Mohács in 1526. The 20-year-old young king died near Mohács, not his father.
Through out history the cruel and terrible torture that was practiced by so called religious people never ceases to horrify ...how anyone regardless of any faith could be so nasty to another human being is beyond belief.....
well, actually we call the white-red stripes "Wolfszähne" or wolf tooths on the coat of arms of Báthory family. It apeares on almost all the Gúth-Keled clan (genus) members coat of arms and nothing to do with the dragon legend.
I wonder if one of the reasons Darvulia was blamed for some of these crimes was because she couldn't actually be punished as she was already dead? Considering that she would have probably been burned alive as punishment for her role in this it might be possible that they felt less guilty blaming her since she was already dead so their words could cause her death
Meanwhile, Elizabeth was given a punishment that was much lighter than the usual burning at the stake. Her punishment was to be walled into her suite in the castle and fed regularly.
Anna Darvulia was deceased at the time of Elizabeth’s arrest and trial 1610/1611. She may have been the most culpable, but two of the remaining accomplices were maximally punished, Ilona Joo and Dorothy Szentes. They had all ten fingers pulled out with red hot pincers and were later burned alive.
Great video. I had always assumed that Elizabeth was just a demented person. This video pretty much convinces me that she was set up do her wealth and power. She was clearly an easy target. Doesn't appear that there was much real evidence that she did any of what she was accused.
Similar to how Catherine the great was defamed. She was said to be sexually promiscuous and even rumoured to have had sex with a horse using an intricate system of levers and pulleys. All lies ofcourse. She was a headstrong and powerful empress (though not without flaws) and the people around her couldn't accept that.
Scott, Be careful of loose language and throwing around diagnoses. Dementia .... Memory loss, difficulty communicating or finding words, difficulty with visual and spatial abilities, such as getting lost, difficulty reasoning or problem-solving, difficulty handling complex tasks, difficulty with planning and organising, difficulty with coordination and motor functions, confusion and disorientation. Which of those symptoms have you observed in Elizabeth's behaviour ? The most important lesson that we can learn from this excellent, well reasoned and presented video is that it is easy to throw mud, and once thrown, it tends to stick, regardless of the truth. I don't know whether Elizabeth did any of the things of which she was and is accused. I have never met her, you understand, so I keep an open mind. What we do know from a general study of history is that there are and have been large numbers of people with something to gain who have told the most appalling lies to obtain an advantage, even if it results in the death of totally innocent people.
@@terryhoath1983 'demented' doesn't always correlate to 'dementia' the disease. de·ment·ed /dəˈmen(t)əd/ adjective 1. BRITISH behaving wildly and irrationally on account of anger, distress, or excitement. "a demented, dangerous, and sadistic Mafioso" Synonyms: mad insane deranged out of one's mind not in one's right mind crazed lunatic unbalanced unhinged unstable disturbed distracted as mad as a hatter as mad as a March hare stark mad non compos mentis sectionable crazy mental off one's head out of one's head off one's nut nutty nutty as a fruitcake off one's rocker not (quite) right in the head around the bend raving mad stark raving mad bats bonkers cuckoo loopy loony bananas loco dippy screwy with a screw loose touched gaga not all there out to lunch off the wall not right upstairs barmy batty crackers barking barking mad stark staring mad round the twist off one's trolley as daft as a brush not the full shilling one sandwich short of a picnic doolally up the pole away with the fairies buggy nutsy nutso out of one's tree meshuga squirrelly wacko gonzo bushed porangi Opposite: sane 2. affected with dementia.
Apparently looking into the Hungarian archives that contained documents of her "trial", which was sealed for centuries thanks to her family, did not exonerate her either.
Her name is well known. Some of the charges may have been exaggerated. However, she was cruel to her servants. There was a trial that was held. In the end, she was imprisoned in her castle. She could have been executed
Not only did her accusers have means, motive and opportunity - there were also contemporaneous accounts of her kindnesses to poor women of the village. Which casts more doubt on her accusers. Also, if she had done such horrendous things, I guarantee there would have been an uprising of the villagers. They would not have stood for that. People tend to think of Monarchs as being all powerful, but their fates can be fragile indeed. Just think about Ann Boleyn, or Mary, daughter of Catherine of Aragon. Or Marie Antoinette and her husband - both killed by the mob. Cromwell and his son, put to death,The Tsar and Tsarina Romanov of Russia and their children. History is of full of stories about royals being conspired against and overthrown.
I think that almost none of your examples are as you think they are. Oliver Cromwell diedm of natural causes as did Mary as far as I recall. Anne was murdered by a strange, jealous husband. This lady might have been conspired against, or she might have been a bloodthirsty serial killer, or some ground in between these two extremes. We simply do not know.
The first mention of vampires in literature actually came hundreds of years before the 18th century. They are mentioned in Jewish mystical pietistic literature from the 13th century. These particular vampires are called "estries" and were said to be female. Many of their characteristics are similar to later vampire tales so it's obvious where the writers of the 18th century got their material from.
Just because she was a woman also doesn't say she wasn't guilty. The notion that women couldn't possibly do something so horrific and that it's always some sexist conspiracy is in and of itself sexist.
This was very well done, but I personally think it was far more likely that the king wanted not only rid of his debt to the Bathorys, but wanted all the wealth and lands. That's why they waited until her husband's death. I'm don't doubt that she was cruel and very mean to those she considered beneath her, but I really have doubts about her killing her servants.
I don’t know if she killed them directly, but it is very possible that they died as a result of her cruelty. So many girls going missing at her home is suspicious and the fact that she changes her statement so much is even more so.
An interesting way to get out of paying your debts. Maybe I should accuse my credit card companies of drinking the blood of their customers, but in a way, they do...🤣
As a Hungarian woman, we remember Elisabeth Bathory as a talented woman, who did have epilepsy, had seizures. The rest is gossip and hunger of powerful males to use her to their benefit. She may have been a little too quick to yell at the woman who was combing her hair, but not enough to see her locked into a cell in her own castle till death finally took her home. I actually like this documentation for her better than what you hear often, that she bathed in the blood of girls to avoid growing old. She never lived to be really old.Thank you and good work.
How did they use her for their benefit? None of them ever tried to claim her land or wealth and her sons inherited everything with little question. Her sons got everything but she was very close to them even when imprisoned, so no way they did this to her and even ruin their families reputation. The woman was evil, the peasants were complaining about her for 10 years. She only got caught cause she targeted noble mens daughters. Were did the noble girls go? Her punishment was laughable. No man in this story benefited from these events.
Elisabeth Bathory was mentally ill. Sadism. She knifed young girls until they bled out. Nobody complained for a long time because her brother was the king. Finally, she was stopped by walling her into a room in her own castle.We had so many great brave female leaders, warriors, and queens. But this horrible takes lives longest.
Fascinating portrait of a historical figure who may or may not have been the monster of legend. It would be helpful to have maps or other graphics to situate the events and set the historical context.
Imagine torturing people to admit they were involved in torturing people. This was interesting angle from what you usually hear about Elzebet Bathory, and probably closer to the truth.
People seriously debating her body count and whether she’s a wronged woman or not, meanwhile I’m simply smiling on how those families got justice for their daughters.
Very interesting video on my ancestor, The Countess of Bathory. There are some parts that have been embellished upon quite a bit and some factual information not spoken about but given that not everyone has access to private letters or diaries documenting Elizabeth’s morbid crimes, you have done a great job telling the tale. Even before I found out that my genealogy could be traced back to Elizabeth Bathory , I’ve always had a wicked curiosity and fascination with her story. Elizabeth was very much guilty of quite a few of the disturbing claims against her and some of the devices she used exist and are displayed privately and securely.
It was Ann Rice not Shelly Keller. If you researched it up to the modern area, you would have noticed that japanese culture also utilized the image in vampire hunter D..
In her times, was it known how to stop blood from clotting? If she bathed in blood, they would need a lot of anticoagulants to prevent the whole bath tube from turning into one gigantic blood clot.
Actually with the amount of blood that it would taken to fill a bath, assuming that she filled the entire tub, it would not have gotten gelatinous for quite some time.
As one studying history, it was not uncommon in those times with inside/outside wars and murdering, conspiring and storytelling made all history even better, remembering my own skills in ghost story telling… -likewise- peoples psyche must have been in tune with a lot of cruelty death, lifespan was often harsh and short even in the elite. I really liked this video, looking at Elisabeth as monster or being set up, as you mention “ on the top you could get away with a lot” , - she might have been overly cruel but not 600 corpses…. ( the ways peps got executed in Middle Ages, was actually “ forced events “ you had to watch to frightened and keep you from rebelling. But inside the nobles themself killed and poisoned each other’s kids and family to gain power) … again Thank you … I’m a fan ❤️🇩🇰🤗
Báthory Erzsébet was neither guilty nor blood thirsty sadist. She was the victim of a brutal powergame. Politicians will not stop to put others down, not in the time of Nero, not today, and they will never stop in the future either.
Always a fascinating figure, because so little IS known about her. The old saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire", can't be ignored in this instance. The fact that so many young, lesser noblewomen died in her care lends credence to the accusations against her. The most logical conclusion is that she WAS a serial killer who was finally caught, & that her downfall fortuitously benefited her captors. They would have been quick to take advantage of any weakness discovered on her part, & so it was.
I almost didn't watch this video because I found all the other stories on her so deeply disturbing. This was a great video! Well researched and presented! Subscribed ✅
When you talk for example about Vienna I would like to see pictures of the city of Vienna rather than dogwood tree flowers. This would greatly help me to keep on track with all the information you are giving.
A wonderful historical coverage about Elizabeth Bathory ...I think both probabilities were mixed to created this bloody viewing about her ...allot thanks
I am always amazed at how these stories take root whether true or not. Just like Polish cavalry attacking German tanks in 1939 is believed to be fact when it actually never happened.
To be honest, it's quite clear among historians that the harvesting of human blood has been a central part of some antiquated religions prevalent especially in societies of those particular regions. The legends may have their credence. Particular ancient societies, from which our Lady of Blood clearly seems to have descended, may have kept their old faith. We were not there in person therefore we can not judge for ourselves for certain. There have been nonetheless multiform reported the practice of collection of blood especially from young and innocent females, that would grant everlasting life once extracted and consumed. Yes, We can only speculate. Sweeping it under the rug of a cousin in debt may cover up this particular account nicely, but certainly not all of the others of which there are many.
In my own experience as a young girl, I can tell you, first hand, that some wealthy women can be very mean. These women, with whom I dealt, were, no doubt, mean girls in their youth. At that time, I was quite attractive and very intelligent, even though I was unaware of my own potential during that period. Later, I did go on to acquire degrees in math and science, raise three wonderful children and become an accomplished musician. I am certain these particular women were jealous. In defense of women in general, most are quite kind, whether they are wealthy of not.
O, and yes, one other comment needs to be made; despite medieval peasant scenes, that antedate Elizabeth by up to 200 years, again the presenters of this video must be commended for presenting her, (several times), through the only known real likeness, a very attractive portrait, to my eyes, taken when she was, I believe, about 20 years old. Other videos have gone overboard in this area, one actually showing an early likeness of Queen Elizabeth Tudor, as supposedly, Elizabeth Bathory.
Elizabeth Bathory was a powerful, wealthy woman and therefore; a threat to the men in power. Did she abuse her servant girls? Yes. Was she a harsh employer to work for? Yes. I don't doubt it. But her treatment of the girls who worked for her wasn't unusual for that time. In fact, it was normal to slap servants across the face or beat them for dropping or spilling something. So while she was cruel to her servants, she was no different than anyone else in how she dealt with servants who had displeased her. But I think what makes Elizabeth Bathory different was that fact she was so powerful, and wielded so much influence, in a time when women; even women from powerful families didn't have much power of their own. The men in power used her penchant for cruelty as excuse to bring charges against her so they could bring her down and take everything she had.
I agree with your comments about her and the men that accused her of these crimes also owed past debts to her family. So if she is convicted they don't have to pay her, they also remove a beautiful and intelligent Woman that was clearly a threat to them in that she had a mind of her own and wasn't intimidated by them.Take care regards Scott.
Feminism at it's best right here...even mass murdering psychopathic women are victims of the patriarchy.. are innocent ... that's fucking scary thinking.
Mirror, can you tell me How to stay forever young? Let me know the secret I will hold my twisted tongue Please protect my beauty Velvet skin so pure and white Hear my name resounding Like a hymn at dead of night
I don’t believe Elizabeth Bathory was completely innocent. Like many nobles of her time she was cruel and had blood on her hands, but the charges against her were definitely exaggerated with some likely being false. She had powerful enemies who were in debt to her and that definitely looks suspicious. Her accusers also used tortured in order to get confessions, while the norm of the time, definitely doesn’t leave a good impression. She is not the monster that she has been portrayed to be over the years, but I’m not quite sure that she’s an innocent martyr.
So good to finally watch a balanced documentary on this, involving all the historical, political and religious context, instead of just the usual salacious stuff. I think the obvious conclusion, like Gilles de Rais and Anne Boleyn, is the boring one- it was a a stitch up; a means to an end.
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If I was sitting on a jury, in a modern day revisiting of her life, I would say, "NOT GUILTY."
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It was proved by historians that her trial was politically motivated.
And you really believe this mental health condition couldn’t be possible and even more covered up due to her wealth and power ? This sort of thing happens even today with wealthy and just plain sick people ,just ask Trump about his buddy who mysteriously hung himself .🤣
Probably the most unbiased recount of her life ever. Thank you.
Couldn't of said it better myself
@@DarkSektori I lnow. i get all these folks trying to be objective, but... this was before the internet, and it is known the public may have been told she would be burned for witchcraft. but those murdered were relatives . cousins . I doubt it was usually daughters . no. they did much worse. nobles were not burned, traditionally, ? and it was too quick a death for her.
@@DarkSektori, I could have... I just choose not to.
Watching this reminds me how much I miss when channels like the History channel, actually produced high quality, documentaries about history... Rather than Pawn Stars, Ancient Aliens, Ice Road Truckers, etc.
There's a lot of great historical content on UA-cam now, but I really just miss the high production values, I guess. (Though channels like this still do a great job, for what must be an extremely smaller budget.)
Yeah, the History channel is now the hillbilly channel. Sold out for ratings.
All jokes aside, I've wondered what shows like ice road truckers has to do with history. Pawn stars and Ancient Aliens maybe more so, dealing with historical artifacts and speculation, but still..
You forgot Skinwalker Ranch. Miss the history channel
Exactly
Get off the internet Chumlee
The pronunciation of the Hungarian, Slovakian and Czech names in this video is really good. Respect to the narrator :)
Except for those of us who actually speak those languages fluently...
@@vnchronicler5358 Good for you. Congratulations. You are fluent in many langyages. I think that the pronunciation in this video is far better than on most.
@@vnchronicler5358You are right.
I agree. I was engaged into a Hungarian family where the language was spoken 50% of the time. We had Janos which was learned to me by the history of Hungary. The side words and their meaning still remind me of the past. The narrator is perfect.
These videos are better than any documentaries shown on the tele. Well done and Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
Greetings, Jess! How are you doing? I came across your channel here and I got interested to drop this comment on your post. I just want us to be friends. Let’s chat
Any relation to Guy? Lol
@@sidneygriffiths5737 lol no my family looked it up on those ancestry websites and no we’re not lol x
Ya gotta love how these lovely church men used brutal torture to find out if Elizabeth had used torture.
Reason i denounced religion as a child when I first heard of these barbaric animals.
Not only that all the accusations might be false to begin with about her. There's men including her relatives could have paid off the priests and of course those men wanted her Fortune$$
What better way to get it.
@@Jerseyboondocks I’m pretty sure that’s a much more accurate summation of what happened, rather than the legends that built up over the years.
Hypocrisy was around wayyyyy before religion and will be here for a long time to come. Too bad it isn't made aware to the poor saps involved until way too late
@@massimoricciardi6202 I've always questioned "organized" religion's motives for just about anything involving 💰💰💰and/or power so I can sympathize with a there. I can believe in God my own way but not made to feel like I'm gonna burn for making huge transgressions like wearing pants or telling my hubby to piss-off here or there. (Clutch the pearls!)
Excellent work! This was fascinating. I've always found Elizabeth Bathory interesting, particularly that there is so much myth and contradicting accounts of her in a time when superstition and chaos ran supreme. Well done!
Listening to non-Hungarians saying Hungarian names/words makes me smile. Thank you for trying your best, feels good to hear my language being respected as such.
Hungarian language seems to work at being unpronouncible. This guy did a pretty job of it.
It's ridiculous that the 2 men who benefitted from Elizabeth's troubles were also her primary accusers, both having specific reasons to elicit false testimony & "witness statements." Then, a relative of one of the men is the first to write about her "crimes" *100 years* later. I wonder how much more he embellished the story to further improve his status.
This was a common occurrence back then, that people who had grudges accused each other of witchcraft and things like that.
men only standing by women when they have something to gain from them???! shocker
They may have done away with her because of her lands and wealth but she certainly gave them a good reason to. Everybody yak about Bathory being targeted because she’s a woman but nobody talked about the nameless peasant girls she and her husband abused and killed. Even if 95 percent of her supposed victims were exaggerated, that still leaves her in the realm of 30, which still placed her in the top 10 of serial killer body counts.
@@PungiFungiyeah it make sense
@@maniswolftoman whataboutism.
For those that say: "I would loved to have lived when..."
I LOVE these documentaries. I work from home and listen to various documentaries while working.
I can't get enough of them. I am fascinated with history and feel like humanity will never be as interesting in the future as we have already been in the past.
@@HerrinSchadenfreudeit will
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen of one of the most infamous women in European history.
Absolutely a great documentary and very well done. Most videos on this subject play out the horror to get people to watch and can't be bothered to do any real research on Elizabeth or her upbringing or family background.They go for body count instead of real facts. So thanks for doing a thorough job with the Family history and I applaud the narrator, well done and I look forward to seeing more from the channel, regards Scott.
Trivia: No one used the term "serial killer" until FBI agent Robert Ressler coined it in the 1970s. But the term is a direct translation of the German term "Serienmörder" coined in 1930 by Berlin investigator Ernst Gennat.
That doesn't mean Ressler took the term "Serial Killer" from the German "Serienmörder", it just means "Serial Killer" is the English "translation" of the German term "Serienmörder".... so what point exactly you are trying correlate is a mystery, you might as well just pick any random English term and announce that you've found the German translation...
@nicolasrose3064 Well, I didn't come up with it since I'm not from the 1930s. So maybe you should ask the ones who came up with the words? This is sort of like, "I'm just the messenger, not the message." I'm just relaying the message in simple terms. Apparently, not to some.
@@tomcat8983
You have completely missed the point of my comment, so... you've kinda walked in a circle straight into your "apparently not to some" reference.....
You're "not from the 1930's"... no-one is trying to say you are, all you've done is zero in on "Serial Killer" and tried to fit a German translation to the term, it has absolutely zero relevance other than it being the translation of a term....."oh look, the term 'Serial Killer', ooo, I know, I'll make it look like it has a correlation between it, and the German translation and give it some vague relevance to the videos content...."
@@tomcat8983
What has E.Bathory got to do with the German translation of the term "Serial Killer".... what exactly is its relevance, she wasn't German, lived in a completely different Century to Ressler, and why the insistence on the assertion that the term "Serial Killer" "is a direct translation of the German term".... seriously, the implication you are fabricating, is this fiction that Ressler "coined the term Serial Killer" as a "direct translation of the German term".....
@nicolasrose3064 so your whole point is trying to make me look like an ass while doing the same to yourself, right? Apparently, you missed my point by a whole freaking mile.
I know a lot from this time frame. Yet all of this was new and fascinating to me.
Excellent upload.
Thank you.
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As I am watching your videos,Im just so happy that you spoke names and last names correctly. Just beautiful to hear
Not even close to actual magyar.
@@vnchronicler5358 oh you should hear the others,this is honey to hear
Assuming that anything of this is actually true. Don't discount the possibility that all of this was made up so relatives could take her property.
Some of it was likely true. Exaggerated of course but true. The peasantry were complaining for years about her. The nobles who lost their daughters too. They can't all be liars. The Bathories had a genuine reputation for being cruel in general.
@@jamiemohan2049 Yes they can. There were epidemics of witch burning in that era too don't forget, but witches don't exist outside of imagination. So all of that nonsense was made up and thousands of innocents killed.. There were no newspapers then, just local gossip over the garden fence that got more lurid with each retelling.
If you behaved in the slightest out of what your neighbors considered ordinary then you would be subject to tales like this. And if you were prominent the stories would mushroom, with each variant of the original gossip becoming a "new" victim.
Good point. 👍
Oh, it’s true. All women aren’t victims. Most of us don’t appreciate your philosophy of women as weak victims
Sorry to reply again, but…she was torturing and killing girls from noble families for quite a long time before anyone dared cross her. You might want to take a bit of her self assurance for yourself
Correction: The literal meaning of the word 'bátor' is 'brave', it has no connotations referring to the person in question as being good.
The closest to what's described here would be the word 'vitéz' used to refer to soldiers/warriors with the connotation of the person being honored. (but still not directly good)
Apart from the mythological explanation the family was named after the place Batur, present day Nyírbátor.
The h and y were usually added to noble family names to add legitimacy with the archaic writing style and make the family name sound older than it is.
Originally the dynasty founder taken up the name Bátori.
Thank you for this insightful information.
@@mjcoronel61 To add to this, though i'm not entirely sure but i think the TPP channel might have based this on the original name of the line 'Gutkeled', which includes the term 'good' but 'keled' just means 'curly haired' based on the German word 'klett'.
There's also the German word 'held' which sounds similar to the original name of the Báthory family.
Maybe that's where the assumption from TPP came from.
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What the fuck does that mean. She gets to walk?
Nuts.@@ladyhonor822
Excellent video! I became a huge fan of Eastern European Mythology when I was stationed in Romania for three years and I got to travel and see a lot of castles and historic places. Vlad Tepes was a complex figure and I always found similarities between him and Elizabeth Bathory, but wondered how they came about. You really explained it well. I always find learning the truth behind the myths to be rewarding. Thank you, for putting this video out. I really enjoyed it. Great research too.
Hungary is not Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe means the semi-asian Orthodox civilization.
@@michaelwalcund7574 tell that to Stalin... So Transylvania who is at the core of this story, when it belonged to Hungary was part of Central Europe but now because it is part of Romania it is on Easter Europe.
@@michaelwalcund7574 Don't be so self conscious about it, nobody looks down upon you for being from Eastern Europe, it's the best part of the continent.
Vlad Tepes was not a vampire. Its a myth. He was just a cruel count that was impaling war prisoners, and implemented drakonian punishments to some of the citizens of his county.
Unbiased and factual, without excusing her.
Much impressed by this very impartial account, and also by the narrator's excellent pronunciation of the various personal and place names; my feelings about Countess Bathory's alleged crimes is that they were totally exaggerated, but that there was, most likely some factual basis of a much lesser degree; unfortunately, we shall never know for certain now. Bit, overall, a very good management of a difficult subject.
Exaggerated or not, even if she had just killed one servant, she deserved to be punished accordingly.
what do you mean, his pronunciation is atrocious.
The pronunciation of Hungarian names was actually a disaster unsurprisingly and I don't hold this against him, but the documentary was good as always.
As a hungarian person, let me tell you, the pronounciaton was far from excellent. But also...hungarian is a really difficult language with unique pronounciation so I don't blame him. A+ for trying.
His pronounciation of the names was very far from excellent. He also mixed up king Ulászló with king Lajos.
Thank YOU for giving, a more unbiased view of Elizabet Bathory. Love your channel 💕.
You're welcome.
Having watched various documentaries and read several accounts, I would think that Elizabeth Bathory was mentally disturbed in some sense, was certainly cruel, and may have killed quite a few servants, but the 600+ number of victims seems ridiculously excessive.
She may have well been one of the first recorded serial killers though.
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i would like to think she was framed and stories were made up so the theft of property would be legal.
I learned so much from this video. I had once read that she killed 600+ people and was only found out when a servant girl escaped and that she would shove straws in girls arms and drank the blood. This video makes so much more sense and it’s crazy how things can be so grossly exaggerated. I had no inkling it could possibly be a way to grab power fr her.
She wasn’t a serial killer. Death was just a byproduct of her cruelty. And the number is close. She ‘disappeared’ hundreds of girls that she ordered to the castle. Only the ignorant claim land grab. It was only after she decided to go after the nobles’ daughters, and many of those, that the nobles felt there were enough of them to call for an investigation. She retained her holdings. She retained her castle and was treated exactly like she was before. Her uncle was king of Poland. Her family ruled Transylvania. Some recent professors are trying to make names for themselves on modern ‘feminism’
@@debbylou5729 Well said. I live by the castle (Cachtice) where she was locked up. Naturally I've read many books about her, mostly primary sources. There is no question she was a sadist. Of course the numbers of her victims were exaggerated, everyone exaggerates, but I am more appalled by the 21st century bumpkins from across the continent who are sure she was innocent, even brilliant woman a martyr. It is sickening how history gets constantly twisted to support some contemporary western narrative that has nothing to do with Hungarian History.
This is awesome! I love this
I remember looking her up on youtube years ago just to be disappointed by the sensationalism. It's great to finally see that change, you have my like and sub.
As for her bodycount and potential guilt; Ever since I learned what you briefly mention at 18:33 I thought the whole thing was bs. The woman was dealing with displaced populations including medical care, over a large chunk of a war-torn (literally into 3) country during cholera outbreaks and famine. Yet they couldn't find any physical evidence.
How hard would it have been to fabricate some? Surely some of the people fleeing the turks who would later die under her care had suffered gruesome wounds. The medical technology of the time was practically indistinguishable from torture. And still, not a single mutilated body to support the narrative.
No wonder she was never actually tried. Thurzó must've known he doesn't have a case.
I think she did it.... why were the stories told if she didn't
@@snicker576 They wanted everything she owned, because they were jealous weak men.
@@RockUnicornCorn I really don't that has anything to do with it. This person was deeply evil.
@user-gb8wl3kp3l I personally tend to believe the stories told about her
@@RockUnicornCornYou even look like a psychopath. I can see why you’d sympathize with a serial killer.
Another great documentary. Thanks.
I love this channel so much. These documentaries are great.
So happy to see a longer, more in depth video about her!!
What a fascinating account of her life! You got a new subscriber! ❤
Fabulous discussion on the countess
A little clarification: Louis II of Hungary (Buda, July 1, 1506 - Mohács, August 29, 1526) King of Hungary and Bohemia between 1516 and 1526. The Jagiellonian II. Son of King Ulaszló and Queen Anna Candale. In 1508, he was already Hungarian, and from 1509, Czech king. He died in the Battle of Mohács in 1526. The 20-year-old young king died near Mohács, not his father.
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Thanks for the upload!
Fascinating! Thank you for making this, it's good to hear the probable truth!
FANTASTIC VIDEO! Thank you for putting perspective on this much maligned historical figure!
Fantastic documentary 👌
My favourite of your releases. Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
Through out history the cruel and terrible torture that was practiced by so called religious people never ceases to horrify ...how anyone regardless of any faith could be so nasty to another human being is beyond belief.....
People at that time were just nasty and crazy,,,, I would have lived in a forest away from them all.
Thank you for this video, I really enjoy your documentaries!
well, actually we call the white-red stripes "Wolfszähne" or wolf tooths on the coat of arms of Báthory family. It apeares on almost all the Gúth-Keled clan (genus) members coat of arms and nothing to do with the dragon legend.
I wonder if one of the reasons Darvulia was blamed for some of these crimes was because she couldn't actually be punished as she was already dead? Considering that she would have probably been burned alive as punishment for her role in this it might be possible that they felt less guilty blaming her since she was already dead so their words could cause her death
Meanwhile, Elizabeth was given a punishment that was much lighter than the usual burning at the stake. Her punishment was to be walled into her suite in the castle and fed regularly.
Each level of confession involved maximum relevant pressure and blaming dead people. It's interesting.
Anna Darvulia was deceased at the time of Elizabeth’s arrest and trial 1610/1611. She may have been the most culpable, but two of the remaining accomplices were maximally punished, Ilona Joo and Dorothy Szentes. They had all ten fingers pulled out with red hot pincers and were later burned alive.
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Great video. I had always assumed that Elizabeth was just a demented person. This video pretty much convinces me that she was set up do her wealth and power. She was clearly an easy target. Doesn't appear that there was much real evidence that she did any of what she was accused.
Similar to how Catherine the great was defamed. She was said to be sexually promiscuous and even rumoured to have had sex with a horse using an intricate system of levers and pulleys. All lies ofcourse. She was a headstrong and powerful empress (though not without flaws) and the people around her couldn't accept that.
I agree.
Taught me some new stuff.
Always, happy to learn.
Scott, Be careful of loose language and throwing around diagnoses.
Dementia .... Memory loss, difficulty communicating or finding words, difficulty with visual and spatial abilities, such as getting lost, difficulty reasoning or problem-solving, difficulty handling complex tasks, difficulty with planning and organising, difficulty with coordination and motor functions, confusion and disorientation.
Which of those symptoms have you observed in Elizabeth's behaviour ?
The most important lesson that we can learn from this excellent, well reasoned and presented video is that it is easy to throw mud, and once thrown, it tends to stick, regardless of the truth. I don't know whether Elizabeth did any of the things of which she was and is accused. I have never met her, you understand, so I keep an open mind. What we do know from a general study of history is that there are and have been large numbers of people with something to gain who have told the most appalling lies to obtain an advantage, even if it results in the death of totally innocent people.
@@terryhoath1983
'demented' doesn't always correlate to 'dementia' the disease.
de·ment·ed
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adjective
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behaving wildly and irrationally on account of anger, distress, or excitement.
"a demented, dangerous, and sadistic Mafioso"
Synonyms:
mad
insane
deranged
out of one's mind
not in one's right mind
crazed
lunatic
unbalanced
unhinged
unstable
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as mad as a hatter
as mad as a March hare
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off one's rocker
not (quite) right in the head
around the bend
raving mad
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bats
bonkers
cuckoo
loopy
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bananas
loco
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with a screw loose
touched
gaga
not all there
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off the wall
not right upstairs
barmy
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crackers
barking
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stark staring mad
round the twist
off one's trolley
as daft as a brush
not the full shilling
one sandwich short of a picnic
doolally
up the pole
away with the fairies
buggy
nutsy
nutso
out of one's tree
meshuga
squirrelly
wacko
gonzo
bushed
porangi
Opposite:
sane
2.
affected with dementia.
Apparently looking into the Hungarian archives that contained documents of her "trial", which was sealed for centuries thanks to her family, did not exonerate her either.
Her name is well known. Some of the charges may have been exaggerated. However, she was cruel to her servants. There was a trial that was held. In the end, she was imprisoned in her castle. She could have been executed
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Not only did her accusers have means, motive and opportunity - there were also contemporaneous accounts of her kindnesses to poor women of the village. Which casts more doubt on her accusers. Also, if she had done such horrendous things, I guarantee there would have been an uprising of the villagers. They would not have stood for that. People tend to think of Monarchs as being all powerful, but their fates can be fragile indeed. Just think about Ann Boleyn, or Mary, daughter of Catherine of Aragon. Or Marie Antoinette and her husband - both killed by the mob. Cromwell and his son, put to death,The Tsar and Tsarina Romanov of Russia and their children. History is of full of stories about royals being conspired against and overthrown.
Revisiting this in modern times, my jury Verdict is, "Not Guilty."
Excellent point!
I have to say this is an excellent point though
I think that almost none of your examples are as you think they are. Oliver Cromwell diedm of natural causes as did Mary as far as I recall. Anne was murdered by a strange, jealous husband. This lady might have been conspired against, or she might have been a bloodthirsty serial killer, or some ground in between these two extremes. We simply do not know.
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The first mention of vampires in literature actually came hundreds of years before the 18th century. They are mentioned in Jewish mystical pietistic literature from the 13th century. These particular vampires are called "estries" and were said to be female. Many of their characteristics are similar to later vampire tales so it's obvious where the writers of the 18th century got their material from.
Sounds little like a succubus
Just because she was a woman also doesn't say she wasn't guilty. The notion that women couldn't possibly do something so horrific and that it's always some sexist conspiracy is in and of itself sexist.
This was very well done, but I personally think it was far more likely that the king wanted not only rid of his debt to the Bathorys, but wanted all the wealth and lands. That's why they waited until her husband's death. I'm don't doubt that she was cruel and very mean to those she considered beneath her, but I really have doubts about her killing her servants.
Verdict is: "Not Guilty!"
I don’t know if she killed them directly, but it is very possible that they died as a result of her cruelty. So many girls going missing at her home is suspicious and the fact that she changes her statement so much is even more so.
Love these videos reminds me of videos growing up:) I literally learn more in these than I did in ever school
An interesting way to get out of paying your debts. Maybe I should accuse my credit card companies of drinking the blood of their customers, but in a way, they do...🤣
These are well-done videos.
As a Hungarian woman, we remember Elisabeth Bathory as a talented woman, who did have epilepsy, had seizures. The rest is gossip and hunger of powerful males to use her to their benefit. She may have been a little too quick to yell at the woman who was combing her hair, but not enough to see her locked into a cell in her own castle till death finally took her home. I actually like this documentation for her better than what you hear often, that she bathed in the blood of girls to avoid growing old. She never lived to be really old.Thank you and good work.
Utterly ridiculous. Where do you think all the noble girls went? Did they disappear in a puff of smoke?
She was a brutal, evil woman.
How did they use her for their benefit? None of them ever tried to claim her land or wealth and her sons inherited everything with little question. Her sons got everything but she was very close to them even when imprisoned, so no way they did this to her and even ruin their families reputation. The woman was evil, the peasants were complaining about her for 10 years. She only got caught cause she targeted noble mens daughters. Were did the noble girls go? Her punishment was laughable. No man in this story benefited from these events.
Girl jyst admitt she was an evil women
Elisabeth Bathory was mentally ill. Sadism. She knifed young girls until they bled out. Nobody complained for a long time because her brother was the king. Finally, she was stopped by walling her into a room in her own castle.We had so many great brave female leaders, warriors, and queens. But this horrible takes lives longest.
Growing up in the 80s, I used to blast a song called countess bathory by venom. Black metal band. I had no idea what it meant until now. Holy moly
Fascinating portrait of a historical figure who may or may not have been the monster of legend. It would be helpful to have maps or other graphics to situate the events and set the historical context.
Excellent documentaries. Incredibly well researched and produced. Thank you.
First class presentation, again! Keep it up Guys
Considering that this was posted on All Hallow's Eve, I must say that this is quite a good choice! As usual, well done!
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@@ccisthesekxs Same! The one day of the year where you can dress up as crazy as you want (outside of a convention of some kind, that is).
This lady was the inspiration of Lady Dimestrcu from Resident Evil 8 and the tall lady from Japanese folklore. ❤❤😁
Imagine torturing people to admit they were involved in torturing people. This was interesting angle from what you usually hear about Elzebet Bathory, and probably closer to the truth.
This is nothing new or unique. That's what they did at those times. Torture was their interrogation.
People seriously debating her body count and whether she’s a wronged woman or not, meanwhile I’m simply smiling on how those families got justice for their daughters.
Thank you for this knowledge ❤
Very interesting video on my ancestor, The Countess of Bathory. There are some parts that have been embellished upon quite a bit and some factual information not spoken about but given that not everyone has access to private letters or diaries documenting Elizabeth’s morbid crimes, you have done a great job telling the tale. Even before I found out that my genealogy could be traced back to Elizabeth Bathory , I’ve always had a wicked curiosity and fascination with her story. Elizabeth was very much guilty of quite a few of the disturbing claims against her and some of the devices she used exist and are displayed privately and securely.
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I think Elizabeth Bathory was a powerful woman who had many enemies. I watched every second and I'm a historian too..
I think the same as a history lover. It is the most believable option that some people wanted to reduce her influence and power.
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"History is a tale told by the victors." Is what István Thurzó says in the movie The Countess and that's pretty accurate.
They wrote though :/ Elizabeth is a vampire now
@@fatiht8863 I hope that was sarcasm and that you realize vampires aren't real.
it is not ever true , thats just what fools say when they hear harsh facts.
i meant about history being written by the victor. There are never , any victors.
@@meganwynn372right I do get tired of that saying as if everyone alive is a "victor". Some historians were victims themselves.
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It was Ann Rice not Shelly Keller. If you researched it up to the modern area, you would have noticed that japanese culture also utilized the image in vampire hunter D..
EXCELLENT VIDEO
- Elizabeth is accused of torture.
- Accusation tears out fingers of witnesses with red-hot pincers and burn them alive.
Ok...
Thanks. Would love to see Stephen's biography.
In her times, was it known how to stop blood from clotting? If she bathed in blood, they would need a lot of anticoagulants to prevent the whole bath tube from turning into one gigantic blood clot.
she more than likely "bathed" by rubbing the blood on her skin
Eww.... scabby
Good point
Actually with the amount of blood that it would taken to fill a bath, assuming that she filled the entire tub, it would not have gotten gelatinous for quite some time.
She would need to take a bath after that
As one studying history, it was not uncommon in those times with inside/outside wars and murdering, conspiring and storytelling made all history even better, remembering my own skills in ghost story telling… -likewise- peoples psyche must have been in tune with a lot of cruelty death, lifespan was often harsh and short even in the elite. I really liked this video, looking at Elisabeth as monster or being set up, as you mention “ on the top you could get away with a lot” , - she might have been overly cruel but not 600 corpses…. ( the ways peps got executed in Middle Ages, was actually “ forced events “ you had to watch to frightened and keep you from rebelling. But inside the nobles themself killed and poisoned each other’s kids and family to gain power) … again Thank you … I’m a fan ❤️🇩🇰🤗
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Excellent narration. 👍
Báthory Erzsébet was neither guilty nor blood thirsty sadist. She was the victim of a brutal powergame. Politicians will not stop to put others down, not in the time of Nero, not today, and they will never stop in the future either.
How did it get so high? After 4 or 5 the locals should have started whispering.
great video ,
Awesome you are covering her, she was onto something for sure.
Always a fascinating figure, because so little IS known about her. The old saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire", can't be ignored in this instance. The fact that so many young, lesser noblewomen died in her care lends credence to the accusations against her. The most logical conclusion is that she WAS a serial killer who was finally caught, & that her downfall fortuitously benefited her captors. They would have been quick to take advantage of any weakness discovered on her part, & so it was.
Totally Agree, this is the Best explanation for All of this!
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If you participated in the peasant uprising, you got the hot seat.
I almost didn't watch this video because I found all the other stories on her so deeply disturbing. This was a great video! Well researched and presented! Subscribed ✅
Like always ... EXCELLENT, thank you. 👍😁❤️
When you talk for example about Vienna I would like to see pictures of the city of Vienna rather than dogwood tree flowers. This would greatly help me to keep on track with all the information you are giving.
I put nothing past these "elites" of the past or present.
thank you for this
Angry men set up Anne Boleyn for much less. I don’t think it’s far fetched to say they would do the same to this woman, even if she was rather cruel.
Fascinating, such a Gothic story.
A wonderful historical coverage about Elizabeth Bathory ...I think both probabilities were mixed to created this bloody viewing about her ...allot thanks
I am always amazed at how these stories take root whether true or not. Just like Polish cavalry attacking German tanks in 1939 is believed to be fact when it actually never happened.
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To be honest, it's quite clear among historians that the harvesting of human blood has been a central part of some antiquated religions prevalent especially in societies of those particular regions. The legends may have their credence. Particular ancient societies, from which our Lady of Blood clearly seems to have descended, may have kept their old faith.
We were not there in person therefore we can not judge for ourselves for certain. There have been nonetheless multiform reported the practice of collection of blood especially from young and innocent females, that would grant everlasting life once extracted and consumed.
Yes, We can only speculate. Sweeping it under the rug of a cousin in debt may cover up this particular account nicely, but certainly not all of the others of which there are many.
In my own experience as a young girl, I can tell you, first hand, that some wealthy women can be very mean. These women, with whom I dealt, were, no doubt, mean girls in their youth. At that time, I was quite attractive and very intelligent, even though I was unaware of my own potential during that period. Later, I did go on to acquire degrees in math and science, raise three wonderful children and become an accomplished musician. I am certain these particular women were jealous. In defense of women in general, most are quite kind, whether they are wealthy of not.
Great video. She was profiled on Deadly Women 😮!
O, and yes, one other comment needs to be made; despite medieval peasant scenes, that antedate Elizabeth by up to 200 years, again the presenters of this video must be commended for presenting her, (several times), through the only known real likeness, a very attractive portrait, to my eyes, taken when she was, I believe, about 20 years old. Other videos have gone overboard in this area, one actually showing an early likeness of Queen Elizabeth Tudor, as supposedly, Elizabeth Bathory.
Can't wait for her Netflix movie.
Elizabeth Bathory was a powerful, wealthy woman and therefore; a threat to the men in power. Did she abuse her servant girls? Yes. Was she a harsh employer to work for? Yes. I don't doubt it. But her treatment of the girls who worked for her wasn't unusual for that time. In fact, it was normal to slap servants across the face or beat them for dropping or spilling something. So while she was cruel to her servants, she was no different than anyone else in how she dealt with servants who had displeased her. But I think what makes Elizabeth Bathory different was that fact she was so powerful, and wielded so much influence, in a time when women; even women from powerful families didn't have much power of their own. The men in power used her penchant for cruelty as excuse to bring charges against her so they could bring her down and take everything she had.
I agree with your comments about her and the men that accused her of these crimes also owed past debts to her family. So if she is convicted they don't have to pay her, they also remove a beautiful and intelligent Woman that was clearly a threat to them in that she had a mind of her own and wasn't intimidated by them.Take care regards Scott.
Feminism at it's best right here...even mass murdering psychopathic women are victims of the patriarchy.. are innocent ... that's fucking scary thinking.
Mirror, can you tell me
How to stay forever young?
Let me know the secret
I will hold my twisted tongue
Please protect my beauty
Velvet skin so pure and white
Hear my name resounding
Like a hymn at dead of night
I don’t believe Elizabeth Bathory was completely innocent. Like many nobles of her time she was cruel and had blood on her hands, but the charges against her were definitely exaggerated with some likely being false. She had powerful enemies who were in debt to her and that definitely looks suspicious. Her accusers also used tortured in order to get confessions, while the norm of the time, definitely doesn’t leave a good impression. She is not the monster that she has been portrayed to be over the years, but I’m not quite sure that she’s an innocent martyr.
So good to finally watch a balanced documentary on this, involving all the historical, political and religious context, instead of just the usual salacious stuff. I think the obvious conclusion, like Gilles de Rais and Anne Boleyn, is the boring one- it was a a stitch up; a means to an end.