Installing & Testing Our Bronco Portals at Hidden Falls!
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2023
- Installing & Testing Our Bronco Portals at Hidden Falls!
Install time! Watch as we excitedly open the new Tibus Offroad portals and install them with our friends at Lone Star. Then it's off to Hidden Falls for some BroncBuster testing!
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I couldn’t afford these, but if I could, I would beg for these to be made for the Power Wagon. Would be SICK!
Portals are definitely the way to go. Eventually a few years down the road, seeing how I just bought my 23 Squatchlands 4 DR, I will definitely purchase.
Nice vid my man, I thoroughly enjoyed watching! 🙌🏽😁
You’re Jeep killers are having a rough day hahahah. Good stuff. I’m looking at 74 weld portals.
If the FunHaver team runs portals in ultra 4 they must be good.
Although, the FunHaver Team runs 74Weld's portal boxes vs these. Their boxes for the broncos are a 4 gear style compared to this 3 gear version.
Yeah the 74weld are much better portals but they’re also a lot more money. Most of the Ultra4 4600 broncos are running them. These are probably fine for generic wheeling
Amazing!!
I like these Portals they are very similar to the ones Mercedes Benz is using on their G-Class I prefer 3 bigger gears in the portal housing where the middle gear is bigger as opposed to 4 gears in the housing where the middle 2 being smaller.
Time to start saving for some portals, very impressive
They are incredible
They are really something else. Put a set on my dads bronco and went and wheeled with them and could not be more impressed with the difference they make. The extra width they add takes some getting used to but the ground clearance is a night and day difference on the trail
Love the shirt, Levi!
My next purchase.. Sometime this fall my friend.. Love your stuff..
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😮I’m ALWAYS amazed on how guys have these awesome shops, lots of tools, lifts, a UA-cam channel….BUT NO FUCKING TABLES!!😂😂😂😂 Fuck our backs and knees, and shitty lighting where our shadows get in the way. Table tech just isn’t there yet
Great video! The only thing missing was a Fun J LOL
Those portals are a game changer!
We need uncle Levi 😁
LOL ... Love it! Soon!!!@@BroncBustertx
He said “The quietest portals I ever seen”😂😂
Its all about fuqin around and finding out..
You guys are completely destorying these broncos on what looks to be a fairly easy trail. Brutal.
SAS to get some articulation and then add portals. Now we are talking.
seatbelts !!!!!
I would love these on my built out old TJ Rubicon, but I would spend as much as the truck is worth on these...
This will work out well 😂😂😂
I like all of this except those terrible tires. get some Mickeys or some BFGs
Need me some portals…🤤
portals would be good for snow and mud. but i'd stick to solid axles...under a jeep
Wow! A Milestar sidewall failure??!!! So weird! You almost never see that! Except for in every other UA-cam video
RCV CV axles? that is gonna be one hell of a build!!!
Yes but still throwing grease all over. I need to get a hold of RCV and talk to them about that.
@@BroncBustertx Is it due to the boots or something to that nature?
i was really hoping they did an SAS with portals on the front
Me with my stock bronco over here dreaming 😂
Someday my friend 😌
Have you seen core 4x4 is making adjustable short arms for the bronco .i love the straight straight axle bronco .looks killer looks more like the old school bronco
Agreed, that straight axle just looks right under a Bronco. I knew someone would do it sooner or later, this is the first one I've seen.
The portals look very cool too, I'd love a set on my Gladiator, that would be an appropriate mod.
Move the sasquatch flairs over and tzke some pic and or video to see what coverage of tire looks like.
Looks like wheels are out to about mirror width?
We will do that in our next video. Good idea. Or we can show it on our Instagram later today if you want to check that out.
Those portals are sick! How did you guys recalibrate the speedometer?
Either with forscan, or Procal tool
How did fuel mileage change with Portals?
Looks cool and more clearance. Definitely need a better suspension, the front tires keep bouncing off the ground. It needs more down travel. Don't get a jeep eater sticker yet. Maybe the bronco with straight axles could have a bite.
Definitely needs better suspension but Jeeps already can’t keep up .
@@BroncBustertx lol. Maybe not stock jeeps. 115mph is awesome on the road. Jeeps won't do that, with a 3.6
The cost of portals axles is insane!
It’s not for everyone! Spend 10 k on lift and don’t off road and your good lol
Imagine these on a 2 door!
We have on two know
how is the scrub in the steering? It says how lacking the Bronco is to go to the extreme to make portals for it, and to put them on an IFS.
I feel these are going to put extra strain on all the suspension components that were not designed for portals. Your changing every aspect of the suspension geometry.
These are cool for video content, but in the end, a SFA is more practical, and probably not that much more in price.
Thanks for sharing, it was an interesting watch.
This is exactly the right solution for Bronco. You talk about Geometry but I’m guessing you don’t quite understand it? I’m not trying to be a jerk but it’s the opposite of your statement. The only way to lift without affecting Geometry.
@@BroncBustertxI think he is referring to the suspension stress geometry. Yes with portals you are not affecting the sweep of the suspension, but the stressors are wildly different. Outside of Mercedes and unimog I have yet to see any platform adopt portals and hold up to daily abuse. I’m also referring to civilian vehicles and not something custom built around the portals. These are neat for sure, but I’d love to see this exact vehicle put 60k on this setup with no changes and see how ball joints hold up.
@@0537059 well so far almost 5,000 miles and a lot of beating off road. I guess I’ll keep y’all updated
What was wrong with the front diff, and did you remove a body lift?
I did remove the body lift. We only put that on for temporary while we were waiting on the portals. The front locker was bad so we had to replace it.
Don't hit the fence at Hidden Falls.... yeah, i haven't forgotten
i stopped going there for this
Are the 74weld portals commercially available?
They finally have them for pre-sale, but still none out there on bronco! It’s my believe they still have issues they’re trying to figure out!
These look sick, but one thing I can't stop thinking about is that I don't understand why they didn't build it all into new knuckles? It is weird to me that these just get tacked onto the outside of the existing knuckles. It is certainly a simpler engineering solution, but seems unnecessarily heavy and more points of failure. Maybe for a version 2.0. Or am I crazy and just plain wrong :)
Search for 'portal talk with...' It's a bit long but I found it informative.
I tried to reply numerous times but my comment kept getting deleted. That's why I had to be so brief with my description in my prior comment from 3 hours ago.
It’s not at all needed. The knuckle is not a weak point on the Bronco. It would be a lot of added cost for no reason.
Well you did not get told you have lots to learn with your concerns like mine
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But I am good with it
Sadly UA-camrs have to promote products they get into deals with and can’t have negative comments because they need to get paid or have a discount or free product for advertising
The real sad part is the knuckles may not be week but sure have lots more stress then stock set up with portals if this guy wants people to believe it or not
Even safer then all that is he knows it and is trying to hid that fact and will say things like he did to you or me to try and make people believe him over others and maybe he is just that dumb not to understand how much extra stress those portals put on other parts
Either way it’s sad really
I know I won’t bother watching or commenting on the channel anymore just like other channels
People that actually understand things really need to stop watching channels like this one so UA-camrs are held accountable for what they promote and or say
They’re are lots of people that do not understand things and take UA-camrs for what they say and do as truth
People that do know the difference have to not watch so the channels start to be truth or go away because they are not
I am talking about all channels that are out for marketing and mislead people for their gain
@@JoeRocca-zf2el yeah I've started paying a lot of attention to 74weld, they seem to really know what they're talking about. They're like the factor 55 of drive train.
My dream is a 2 door everglades with portals lol
Let’s make your dream come true😍
@@BroncBustertxohh don't worry I live in Oklahoma so once I have the means an the vehicle il be making my way down for you to 😂
Have a couple questionsfor ya . In all honesty.
Love the portals.
1. I just ordered a Braptor will be xlose to a daily.
2 . I do like the ifs better. I will.off road some times. Probably50/50 sand and trails. 80 pavement... lol
3 . In your opinion what dp you think is a better all around ride . Portals with ifs . Or raptor with strait .
4 . Would you spend money on rator or just cutom reg. Bronco. After aeeing this video i reallylike the portals.
5. What you think.abput over all reliability either way.
6. Any one can buy a rator. Not anyone puts on portals. I wouldllike something different with the ability and ride . Also power ? Will probably run 38s to 40s
Any advise is greatly appreciated.
My honest opinion is IFS with portals performs so much better than a solid axle all the way around. Maintaining the ride quality while greatly increasing the capabilities is key!
We are currently working on portals for raptor, and should have within the next 5 to 6 months .
With the raptor being solid axle. you still recommend the IFS . ride quality is quite important if you're having a daily . if it's just a rock crawler or off-roader that's something else .
Thank you for responding. So with that being said do you think it's worth to get the raptor or just modify the Bronco instead? With the added money for the raptor compared to cost of aftermarket equipment. which way is more economical . I think I know which way would be better ,would be the IFS.. your opinion matrers. 👌
@@dennisgray2559 the raptor is IFS as well.
@@dennisgray2559 so I think you’ll have two different builds when it’s all done. There is no doubt that a raptor on portals will be more capable than a bronco on portals, but in my opinion, I think it may not be worth all that extra money already spent on a raptor. However, my opinion may change after I get one built and then I will have to get back to you on that.
Stock rack or did you swap in a 3.0 rack? If stock, how'd it feel off road? Thoughts on running the stock rack (with the steering upgrades, of course) with the stock wheel offset and survivability considering the increase in scrub width?
I actually upgraded it right away to the Hoss 3.0. After having that 30% more steering capacity it was hard to want to stay with the stock.
What do you mean by capacity? Is that steering strength or steering range?@@BroncBustertx
@@shawnruzek5378 sorry yes steering strength is increased by 30%.
Price comparison of your portals vs a solid axle swap?
@@lennyross2813 it really depends the one guy that I know that has successfully solid axle swap. The bronco says it’s around $35-$40,000. And I say successful. They are still trying to figure out all of the lights on the dash. Specifically steering.
was the alignment off? noticed the steering wheel was cock-eyed when going straight.
also, with the portals, that vehicle is 10" wider.
do you need to have the three lights on the grill to comply with lighting requirements like the bronco raptor? it might actually be too wide to go through the narrow trails in my neck of the woods!
Yes, I replace the steering rack with the highest 3.0 and I have not been in yet to get it aligned. It is not 10 inches wider. It is 7 inches wider and we are carrying a +66 mm wheel
@@BroncBustertx i'm trying to math out how you got 7" wider. if you start with 55mm offset (badlands wheels) and go to 66 mm, that's just about -1". (20 mm subtraction total when counting both sides) add 5" on each side for the Tibus portals, the grand total is 9".
@@lcubed11 first take the wheels out completely for a minute. Let’s pretend I am putting on stock wheels after the install. Which by the way is what is in this video. Each portal adds three and three-quarter inches. That adds a total of 7 1/2 inches. Now let’s talk wheels. Sasquatch wheels are a +33 not 55. So if you use that as your starting point, that gives you an idea of what you’ll end up as.
What weighs less: Solid axel swap or portals?
Portals
How are these different than the 74weld portals?
There are several factors. The biggest being 74 weld is not the right application for a highway vehicle. There system though great for off-road racing will face many issues on a daily driver. The biggest thigh is experience. Tibus has decades of experience 74 only a couple years.
how much did you spined on that Bronco to get it to do what a Jeep can do from the factory with there extras ?
A factory bronco can accomplish way more than a jeep from the factory. Now a well-built jeep can do a lot rock crawling, but is not very good at any other aspect.
A factory Bronco will break trying to do what a factory Jeep can do.
@@underthelibertytree712 you clearly do not have any experience on this. Do you have a factory jeep? Would love to bring a factory in Bronco and show you how wrong you are.
Your right ,they cost to much as well. @@underthelibertytree712
guess again , Ford lover . @@BroncBustertx
love how he calls it a jeep eater only after adding $25k portals on the Bronco
Portals are cool but when is someone going to design a setup like Marlin Crawler is doing with Tacomas RCLT HD setup
74weld is
Alignment much?
20 grand or so for parts… Plus, installation cost… What did you guys charge to install those porters on a bronco?
We now have them for 15,000. But we also do have a version for 20,000.. install runs around $1800.
Do they make them osb Chevy I have a 93
No not yet
@@BroncBustertx hopefully soon I hope
Are you going to reverse engineer and make these affordable?
We are working on getting prices down. The main thing that will drive Price down is quantity. When we are making everything out small quantity, it drastically affect price. Also understand there are some very expensive gears involved in this. And the housings are made out of 7075 aluminum. In the future we may look at doing castings. But again this requires large quantity to even look at.
Isn’t this the same guy who rolled on rocker knocker twice??
Rocker knocker once
You can get these for solid axles too. So if a jeep had these you would once again have no advantage. So does it really matter?
I didn’t realize this was a contest? 🤔 but yes, we sell them for Jeep as well.
Imagine having enough money for these kinds of toys.....this size shop.....and still have to lay on the ground to work on your stuff.....lol
I kinda wanna see what these are like with a manual...for research purposes
Let’s have them do yours
@@BroncBustertx haha I'd be down
Is anyone concerned with oil starvation while at extreme angles??
No these engines are designed completely different than Jeep. I’ve had it at complete 45° angles and never had a problem.
10k maybe 25k aint no way
10 k would by raw materials. You pay to play. Definitely not for everyone
Wanna sell portals? Send a set to Whistlin Diesel and see how hard he has to push them before they break
😅
That's a fantastic idea
Great idea! I think I’ve tested just as hard! If he wants a set I’ll send him one at cost.
Solid axle bronco did better with 1/2 the cost
1/2 the cost??? It’s more expensive I guarantee you!! Call the builder @lonestarringandpinion
Why Noone wears seatbelts ever???
Wish there was a way to do portals without making it so much wider
We have wheels that bring it back in a bunch. Positive 60 mm
Unless you recalibrated, I don't think your speedometer is accurate with ~22% gear reduction at the hub.
It’s recalibrated to within 1mph
But it was not far off since we went from stock, 31s to 38’s it was only off by a couple miles per hour
Broncos are cool, but fords attempt to manage the brand was a falure. Now the bronco has been discontinued!
The added stress to the flimsy control arms no thanks
And the price to pay knowing that added stress is there NO THANK YOU
But have fun and replace and upgrade as you go
It’s nice to see people building these grocery getters
No idea if you pay full price on all your upgrades but anyone that is is a bit nuts if you ask me
And sir you were definitely entitled to your opinion but I could tell you you’ve got a lot to learn.
Ha really lol buddy I have been off roading and building vehicles before you thought of it lol
I ride a turbo vrod have many different brand heavily built vehicles
I love ifs and portals like my 44 mb with hummvee front and rear portals I built about 12 years ago now
As I said portals are great stock ifs bolt on portals not so much because of the stress
As you said in the video needs better suspension and as I said you will upgrade as you go because you will find week links and I totally understand that
As that’s what happens when building rigs bikes cars
But hey I need to learn says the guy that’s stupid enough to incriminate himself on UA-cam stating he is going 107 and filming going way over the speed limit after leaving his drive way
Ha ha
Sorry you don’t like your grocery getting being called what it is
Ford Jeep you name it as a manufacturer that’s what is built and if you don’t know that your dumber then I actually thought and will stop watching your videos
Think about it if any manufacturer was actually building things for the intent of what they claim is off road vehicles you would not have to upgrade all the things you have but as you know you have to
Keep ford Toyota it doesn’t matter the name
Have fun dumbass and I hope your grocery getter has donated parts because having an attitude like yours towards the people that are the reason you can afford or have parts donated to you won’t help you in the long run with that
But hey what do I know I am the one that has lots to learn
Ha ha
25k for a set of ports to still have a ifs with no flex lmfao for 25k you can have one hell of SFA setup making it 3 times the vehicle.
Well 1st it’s more than 25 k to SAS. Second you loose a lot of the ride comforts of IFS. Third you’d have less ground clearance and definitely not 3 times the vehicle!!
That SFA Bronco is how God intended them to be.
Neat but unaffordable for most people.
Finally something worth hate watching
Welcome troll 👿 glad you hate yet follow everything we do 😂😂
@@BroncBustertx Still would be a better video if you had done a better job comparing before and after portals. Braking and steering are still a concern for daily driving and that windy road to the trail head.
@@SNACK_TIME_S that’s why I literally did a video before this one showing that before. Breaking is something we are working on with SSBC out of New York. But honestly, so far, we have not seen any sort of failures or problems with brakes. So for you to say, something worth hate watching is a little bit on the ignorant side.
@BroncBustertx First video had like 1 minute of outside the vehicle action filming? Also the video shows you running a body lift then poof its gone. Not worried about the brakes failing, worried about the 100lbs of added mass they have to stop. More heat, more wear and crappy ford brake disks are a bad mix. Big brake kit that came out didn't work with the electric V6 brakes system (computer). The 4 cylinder vacuum system is also cantankerous.
Definition of Hate: feel intense or passionate dislike for (someone). I think its more of you hate me and I rub you wrong (I am a forum Troll I will not deny the truth).
@@SNACK_TIME_S oh, I definitely don’t hate you! You’d be surprised it takes a lot for me to hate someone. I bet you if we met up on the trail somewhere, we would actually get along pretty well. As far as covering everything that everybody wants to see I’m doing my best. I’m a small business with a very small amount of personnel. My day starts at 5 AM and doesn’t end most nights until 11 or 12.. this is six days a week with still quite a bit going on on Sundays. I’m not asking for pity or sympathy. All I’m trying to state is I’m doing the best I can.
I wouldn't spend a penny for a company that endorses Trump!
That’s patriot speak any normal American should use
FJB AND HIS BIDOPHILES !!!!!
$20k portals and they use silicone to fill the stock ABS sensor holes. So ridiculous.
You cut the bung off the stock steering knuckle and ask if drilling out the brake hose brackets will allow you to go back to stock. Seriously? Hmmmm buying new knuckles or brake hose brackets.